Latest / DISGRACELAND / Lil’ Peep (Rewind): A new hip-hop and emo fusion; trap beats, tender lyrics, too much Xanax and an overdose that’s still mysterious.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Alright guys, welcome into another Rewind episode of Disgraceland. This
- 0:04Speaker 1: one is on Lil Peep. I don't think we've ever
- 0:06Speaker 1: rewound this one. It was released way back in 2021.
- 0:11Speaker 1: March 9th, 2021. Titled Lil Peep, a new hip-hop and
- 0:15Speaker 1: emo fusion. Trap beats, tender lyrics, too much Xanax, and
- 0:19Speaker 1: a still mysterious overdose. The circumstances around Lil Peep's death
- 0:24Speaker 1: are dark, disturbing, and yes, a little mysterious as well.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Lil Peep hasn't really been in the news. His passing, again,
- 0:31Speaker 1: five years ago now, going on six. And you know,
- 0:35Speaker 1: an artist that, what I identified with Lil Peep was
- 0:38Speaker 1: his connection to emo music, because I'm obviously connected to
- 0:42Speaker 1: emo in some ways. More that second generation emo from
- 0:45Speaker 1: the 1990s, not so much the 2000s, 2010s emo. But
- 0:52Speaker 1: this gave us an opportunity in telling Lil Peep's story
- 0:56Speaker 1: to sort of get into the origins of that genre
- 0:58Speaker 1: of music. Something I was really into at the time
- 1:01Speaker 1: and happy to bring to you guys. This is a
- 1:03Speaker 1: crazy story. What an artist, what an individual, gone way
- 1:09Speaker 1: too soon. I hope you guys enjoy this. Hit me up, 617-906-6638.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Voicemail and text after you hear it and let me
- 1:17Speaker 1: know what you think.
- 1:18Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Lil Peep.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. The stories about
- 1:35Speaker 1: Lil Peep are insane. He died at the age of 21,
- 1:38Speaker 1: the victim of an overdose that's still mysterious. He sometimes
- 1:43Speaker 1: suffered from crippling anxiety and depression, but bared his soul
- 1:48Speaker 1: on stage and online to millions of fans who felt
- 1:51Speaker 1: a deep, empathetic connection to him. He self-medicated daily with
- 1:55Speaker 1: a pharmacy-sized array of street-procured prescription meds and illicit drugs.
- 2:01Speaker 1: He was a once-in-a-generation type voice, poised to become one
- 2:05Speaker 1: of the mainstream's biggest success stories, but whose life was
- 2:08Speaker 1: senselessly cut short. And of course, he made great music.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Unlike that music you heard at the top of the show,
- 2:17Speaker 1: that wasn't great music. That was a preset loop from
- 2:20Speaker 1: my Mellotron called Coke Straw Sazzo MK1. I played you
- 2:26Speaker 1: that loop because I can't afford the rights to Rockstar
- 2:29Speaker 1: by Post Malone. And why would I play you that
- 2:32Speaker 1: specific slice of savage nudie suit cheese, could I afford it?
- 2:38Speaker 1: Because that was the number one song in America on
- 2:41Speaker 1: November 15th, 2017. And that was the day Lil Peep
- 2:46Speaker 1: made his final Instagram post. An eerie post filled with
- 2:50Speaker 1: anxiety and depression and foreshadowing his death that would come
- 2:54Speaker 1: only a few short hours later. On this episode, crippling anxiety,
- 3:00Speaker 1: DIY emo grime, too much Xanax, and Lil Peep.
- 3:05Speaker 2: I'm Jake Brennan, and this is Disgrace.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Given how close it was to showtime, some friends grabbed
- 3:36Speaker 1: video of him passed out in the back of the
- 3:38Speaker 1: tour bus for their Insta stories as a joke. Little
- 3:41Speaker 1: did the friends know, Lil Peep wasn't passed out.
- 3:45Speaker 2: He was dead.
- 3:48Speaker 1: The news was hard to contain. From Peep's road crew
- 3:51Speaker 1: to friends and show openers, various members of Gothboy Click,
- 3:55Speaker 1: to fans packed inside the Rock Nightclub in Tucson, Arizona,
- 3:59Speaker 1: impatiently awaiting for their beloved Lil Peep to hit the stage.
- 4:05Speaker 1: But nobody wanted to admit to themselves or to the
- 4:08Speaker 1: fans that it was real. Gothboy Click group member Horsehead
- 4:12Speaker 1: went on stage, likely he was in shock, and performed
- 4:15Speaker 1: a couple songs to keep the restless fans entertained. But
- 4:19Speaker 1: the energy was getting rowdy, frustrated, and footage of the
- 4:22Speaker 1: unconscious peep on his tour bus was already making the
- 4:25Speaker 1: rounds on social media. People began to wander outside to
- 4:29Speaker 1: see what was really going on. Inside the tour bus,
- 4:32Speaker 1: Peep's tour manager was on the phone with 911 while
- 4:36Speaker 1: members of the row crew lay Peep out on the
- 4:38Speaker 1: ground and administered CPR. Nothing. Through the windows, they could
- 4:43Speaker 1: see the crowd gathering, holding up phones, desperate to get
- 4:46Speaker 1: a glimpse inside. The dispatcher on the 911 call insisted
- 4:50Speaker 1: the EMTs were on their way. Outside, waves of fans
- 4:55Speaker 1: crushed up against the sides of the bus. The bus
- 4:57Speaker 1: began to rock, and then the paramedics arrived, the lights,
- 5:00Speaker 1: the sirens on full blast. They added to the growing
- 5:03Speaker 1: chaos of the scene by forcing their way through the
- 5:05Speaker 1: agitated crowd gathered outside the bus. The arrival of the
- 5:09Speaker 1: paramedics and their ambulance made it real. Fans started crying, wailing,
- 5:14Speaker 1: people yelled, people talked shit, fights broke out, quick flash
- 5:17Speaker 1: street brawls that no one bothered to break up. The
- 5:21Speaker 1: paramedics reached the door to the bus, climbed up inside.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Not too long after, out came Lil' Pete.
- 5:28Speaker 2: On his back, on a gurney. And the crowd lost
- 5:32Speaker 2: their shit. Pandemonium.
- 5:35Speaker 1: They rocked the bus some more. They trashed the parking lot,
- 5:38Speaker 1: raged in the streets. Their boy was dead. Lil Peep's
- 5:45Speaker 1: connection with fans, his very real empathy as an artist,
- 5:49Speaker 1: combined with his undeniable charisma and talent, proved that it
- 5:52Speaker 1: was not just music journalism hyperbole to say that he
- 5:55Speaker 1: was on his way to becoming his generation's Kurt Cobain.
- 5:59Speaker 1: He truly was. From a young age in Long Beach,
- 6:02Speaker 1: New York, Lil Peep, born Gustav Elijah R., was obsessed
- 6:06Speaker 1: with music. He wasn't like most kids. Despite his obvious
- 6:11Speaker 1: good looks and easygoing nature, he did not fit in.
- 6:14Speaker 1: So he turned inward. He got lost in the music.
- 6:17Speaker 1: Pop punk, Blink-182, Green Day, Good Charlotte, Emo, Mineral, and Jawbreaker.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Classics like Oasis, Nirvana, The Beatles, and of course, hip-hop. Kanye, Kanye,
- 6:27Speaker 1: and more Kanye. It all sounded great, especially stoned. Everything
- 6:33Speaker 1: sounded better while high. The beats were better, the screams
- 6:36Speaker 1: more guttural, and the melodies, even from the most melancholic
- 6:39Speaker 1: emo troubadours, were somehow even more sad. I always hated
- 6:46Speaker 1: the term emo, as in emo music, because, well, all
- 6:50Speaker 1: music is emo, right? Isn't all music emotional? To me,
- 6:54Speaker 1: Slayer is just as emotional as Sunny Day Real Estate.
- 6:57Speaker 1: It's just clearly a different type of emotion being expressed.
- 7:01Speaker 1: But regardless, the term emo took root as an easy
- 7:04Speaker 1: way for hardcore kids to describe a particular type of
- 7:07Speaker 1: hardcore music that sprung from Washington, D.C., with Ian McKay's
- 7:12Speaker 1: post-minor threat pre-Fugazi outfit Embrace and future Fugazi member Guy
- 7:17Speaker 1: Pachado's band Rites of Spring. After those bands, a younger
- 7:21Speaker 1: crop of hardcore kids traded in their Jordans and Champion
- 7:24Speaker 1: sweatshirts for Chuck Taylors and Argyle sweaters, augmented their power
- 7:28Speaker 1: chords with fifth notes, and started singing about.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Girls. As my six-year-old would say. Ew.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Singing about girls any time after, gee, I don't know,
- 7:41Speaker 1: the year 1855 doesn't sound like anything groundbreaking, but trust me,
- 7:45Speaker 1: in Cambridge, Massachusetts, upstairs at the Middle East in 1996,
- 7:49Speaker 1: in the middle of what had become somewhat of a
- 7:51Speaker 1: closed-minded scene, the hardcore scene, singing about love, be it lost, found, whatever,
- 7:57Speaker 1: it was damn near revolutionary. I'm exaggerating, but only slightly.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Bands like J.June, Texas is the Reason, Piebald, Promise Ring,
- 8:05Speaker 1: and Rye Coalition were building off of what Embrace and
- 8:08Speaker 1: Rites of Spring had started a decade earlier and laying
- 8:11Speaker 1: the groundwork for the coming 2000s emo explosion with bands
- 8:15Speaker 1: like Dashboard Confessional, Jimmy Eat World, and Panic at the
- 8:18Speaker 1: Disco actually conquering mainstream charts. Which was how emo found
- 8:25Speaker 1: its way to Lil Peep in suburban New York. As
- 8:28Speaker 1: a young, alienated son of divorced parents, he was taken
- 8:32Speaker 1: by it. And as emo was a close cousin of hardcore,
- 8:35Speaker 1: it was imbued with the same DIY spirit, and this
- 8:38Speaker 1: spirit was not lost on Lil Peep in 2014. But
- 8:42Speaker 1: instead of Kinko's copied fanzines and mail-order distro networks, Lil
- 8:46Speaker 1: Peep used the tools available to him and began uploading
- 8:49Speaker 1: the tracks he was breaking off in his childhood bedroom
- 8:52Speaker 1: to SoundCloud and promoting them on Instagram. An audience quickly developed.
- 8:57Speaker 1: The music he created made his new fans feel less alone,
- 9:00Speaker 1: just as the act of making the music made Peep
- 9:03Speaker 1: feel like less of a small-town freak. It was a
- 9:05Speaker 1: genuine connection, a strong bond that helped him cope with
- 9:09Speaker 1: the world outside his bedroom walls and with his own anxiety.
- 9:15Speaker 1: The morning ritual wrenched his nerves. Peep's teenage alienation, his
- 9:20Speaker 1: low self-esteem, his extreme anxiety about what his fellow students
- 9:24Speaker 1: and what his teachers thought of him was... So intense
- 9:27Speaker 1: that most mornings before school, he'd find himself in his
- 9:30Speaker 1: bathroom vomiting violently. The weed helped. It calmed him down.
- 9:37Speaker 1: And so did the Xanax, and of course, so did
- 9:39Speaker 1: the music. But no amount of self-medicating and sad melodies
- 9:43Speaker 1: could really curb the anxiety. If Pete was going to
- 9:47Speaker 1: truly deal, he needed an outer shell.
- 9:49Speaker 2: A strong sense of self. Armor.
- 9:52Speaker 1: So he got a face tattoo. At the age of 17.
- 9:56Speaker 1: a broken heart underneath his left eye.
- 9:58Speaker 2: It was official. as if it wasn't before.
- 10:01Speaker 1: To most of his teachers, to most locals in Long Beach,
- 10:04Speaker 1: New York, Gus R., who is now going by the
- 10:06Speaker 1: hip-hop name Lil Peep, was lost to them. And for
- 10:10Speaker 1: Lil Peep, with a growing online fan base for his
- 10:14Speaker 1: unique meld of hip-hop and emo, it was clear as day.
- 10:17Speaker 1: At the age of 17, it was time for him
- 10:20Speaker 1: to get lost, to head west, manifest destiny. It was
- 10:49Speaker 1: a depressed section of Tucson, but in this particular neighborhood,
- 10:53Speaker 1: residents still.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Had their pride.
- 10:55Speaker 1: The rumors about what went on in that house were unsettling.
- 10:59Speaker 1: At first, it was believed that it was an illegal
- 11:01Speaker 1: tattoo parlor, but after.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Time, a darker rumor set in.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Kids and transient-looking young adults didn't spend the only money
- 11:09Speaker 1: they had on body ache. These visitors to the house
- 11:12Speaker 1: looked desperate, not to mention haggard beyond compare.
- 11:16Speaker 2: And that smell, what's up with that smell?
- 11:19Speaker 1: It bled out of the house at night, and by morning,
- 11:21Speaker 1: the whole street was covered in that rotting chemical stench,
- 11:25Speaker 1: like someone took the worst parts of a hospital smell
- 11:27Speaker 1: and tried dousing it in vinegar. The trash was piling
- 11:31Speaker 1: up outside. The windows were blackened mostly with dark curtains.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Some were even painted black. It had been months since
- 11:39Speaker 1: the house's owners had been seen, but still, visitors came
- 11:42Speaker 1: and went at all hours. Someone called the cops, and
- 11:46Speaker 1: the cops were not stupid. They rolled up with the
- 11:48Speaker 1: fire department It was late, past midnight, early morning hours.
- 11:53Speaker 1: As the first cruiser made its way down the street,
- 11:56Speaker 1: a young man in the front yard on his cell
- 11:58Speaker 1: phone took note and then sprinted into the house. The
- 12:02Speaker 1: cop floored it. Through the house's front yard window, what
- 12:05Speaker 1: little light was visible through the crack in the curtain
- 12:07Speaker 1: quickly went out. That first cop on the scene slowly
- 12:11Speaker 1: got out of his cruiser. The smell was overpowering. He
- 12:15Speaker 1: wondered where the hell the fire department He took his
- 12:18Speaker 1: binoculars and peered through them.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Across the front yard, trying to steal a glimpse into
- 12:22Speaker 2: the house. Blackness.
- 12:25Speaker 1: He could neither see nor hear anything. There was only
- 12:28Speaker 1: that smell. If fear had a scent, this was it. There,
- 12:33Speaker 1: through the crack in the window, he spied a small
- 12:35Speaker 1: flash of light, and then.
- 12:44Speaker 1: The CDC estimates that there are over 1,000 meth lab-related
- 12:47Speaker 1: quote-unquote incidents per year. Incidents ranging in intensity from full-on
- 12:53Speaker 1: explosions like this one to milder events where a crazed
- 12:56Speaker 1: meth head gets sloppy and merely lights his face on fire.
- 13:00Speaker 1: This explosion was big, but not completely destructive. The house
- 13:04Speaker 1: was salvaged, structurally at least. It would require extensive renovations
- 13:08Speaker 1: for it to be truly inhabitable again, but the squatters
- 13:10Speaker 1: didn't care. so long as the four walls and ceiling
- 13:13Speaker 1: were there and the windows could be boarded up at least.
- 13:17Speaker 1: So after a while, they moved in. The squatters weren't
- 13:20Speaker 1: your typical homeless. They were young kids, teenagers, and young adults.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Not at all hippies, but living off the grid in
- 13:26Speaker 1: their own way. At one time, they would have been
- 13:28Speaker 1: referred to as crosspunks, but in 2016, that moniker wouldn't do.
- 13:33Speaker 1: These kids weren't motivated by blast beats and revolutionary politics.
- 13:38Speaker 1: For them, it was trap beats and sad sing-alongs, not
- 13:41Speaker 1: to mention drugs. Not meth, per se, but weed, coke, Xanax, perks, ecstasy,
- 13:46Speaker 1: most pharmaceuticals you can name. And their sense of fashion
- 13:50Speaker 1: was similar to Krust Punk's, though. Tight, ripped jeans and t-shirts,
- 13:54Speaker 1: handmade patches, safety pinned on everywhere, tattered plaids with suspenders, leathers, denim,
- 13:59Speaker 1: all dirty, filthy actually, tattered, dyed hair, dreads, shaved heads,
- 14:03Speaker 1: and of course.
- 14:04Speaker 2: Face tattoos.
- 14:06Speaker 1: The mangy pitbull on a rope as an accessory was
- 14:09Speaker 1: replaced by the odd piece of ostentatious jewelry, procured God
- 14:12Speaker 1: knows how, likely via theft or by preying on mommy
- 14:15Speaker 1: and daddy's generosity and better judgment. A not-so-subtle nod to
- 14:20Speaker 1: their love of hip-hop. Lil Peep had found his people.
- 14:26Speaker 1: The blown-out husk of a meth house had no stage.
- 14:29Speaker 1: He performed in the middle of the crowd, and they
- 14:31Speaker 1: danced on the dirt floor, piled layers of band stickers
- 14:34Speaker 1: on the scorched walls. And when Peep performed his latest track,
- 14:38Speaker 1: Beamer Boy, which had just dropped, everybody sang along, all
- 14:41Speaker 1: around him, drowning out the site's shitty little P.A., And
- 14:45Speaker 1: these kids, this new generation of punk-slash-emo-slash-hip-hop-style kids, had coalesced
- 14:51Speaker 1: through this new hybrid of music they loved, and they
- 14:53Speaker 1: were all united among the meth house ruins by him,
- 14:57Speaker 1: by his music. The experience in Tucson compelled Lil Peep.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Further west, an L.A. rapper named Jay Green was at
- 15:04Speaker 1: the show. Peep had already met him over the internet.
- 15:07Speaker 1: On an invite to collaborate with him, Peep set out
- 15:10Speaker 1: for Los Angeles. The collaboration with Jay Green called Schema
- 15:15Speaker 1: Posse lasted a few months, but Pete bounced around LA,
- 15:18Speaker 1: left the group, and wound up crashing in a barren
- 15:21Speaker 1: loft in downtown LA's Skid Row. The loft was a
- 15:25Speaker 1: squalid warehouse space with a rotating crew of squatters crashing
- 15:28Speaker 1: on couches and floors, beds for the regulars stashed in corners.
- 15:32Speaker 1: Tense cities reeking of human piss and shit stretched down
- 15:36Speaker 1: the strip in both directions right outside the door. And
- 15:39Speaker 1: to the folks back home who remembered him as Gus...
- 15:42Speaker 1: Lil Peep may as well have been homeless. But inside
- 15:46Speaker 1: the loft, it was a creative hothouse, a sardine can
- 15:49Speaker 1: of artists collaborating on track after track, performing shows in
- 15:53Speaker 1: the warehouse, going all the time and going hard. These
- 15:57Speaker 1: were Peep's people too, so much like the kids.
- 15:59Speaker 2: At the Tucson show.
- 16:01Speaker 1: Even as he was blowing up as a solo act,
- 16:04Speaker 1: Peep joined up with a group of like-minded rappers and producers,
- 16:08Speaker 1: a hive known as Goth Boy Click. Together, they formed
- 16:11Speaker 1: a Wu-Tang Clan type of collective for the SoundCloud age. Coldheart, Doves, Fishnark, Horsehead,
- 16:17Speaker 1: JP Dream Thug, Lil Tracy, Mac Ned, Wiccaface, Springs Eternal, Yawns,
- 16:22Speaker 1: and Lil Peep. Lil Peep's mixtape, Crybaby, featuring Gothboy Click,
- 16:27Speaker 1: or the GBC as it.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Was called, was blowing up.
- 16:30Speaker 1: SoundCloud rap had officially made an end run around the
- 16:33Speaker 1: traditional record industry. fueling constant underground collaboration and single releases
- 16:38Speaker 1: from young emerging artists non-stop. The industry was racing to
- 16:43Speaker 1: catch up, and Peep was getting legit management and label interests.
- 16:47Speaker 1: Gothboy Click was drafting in his wake. But the reek
- 16:52Speaker 1: of the human waste from the windows never let up.
- 16:55Speaker 2: Everyone in the loft shared a bathroom.
- 16:57Speaker 1: The inability to find a moment's peace and quiet to
- 16:59Speaker 1: himself in the creative hive built up the pressure. He
- 17:03Speaker 1: felt like he was being pulled in two directions at once,
- 17:06Speaker 1: into outer space and stardom and crashing hard down to Earth.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Alone at night on his mattress in the corner, listening
- 17:15Speaker 1: to bombs fight outside, Peep read letters from his grandpa,
- 17:19Speaker 1: who he called Packack. Packack had always been his real
- 17:22Speaker 1: father figure, not like his birth dad, who abandoned him
- 17:26Speaker 1: during junior high, right when any boy enters his hard years.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Packack was a warm soul and a man of letters,
- 17:33Speaker 1: and when he wrote to Peep, it brought him strength
- 17:35Speaker 1: and comfort. But Peep didn't know what to do now.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Packack and his mother had always raised Peep to believe
- 17:41Speaker 1: deeply in equality and respect for all people. And in
- 17:45Speaker 1: his own way, Peep was trying to honor those values
- 17:47Speaker 1: with his lifestyle and creative choices, living communally and sticking
- 17:51Speaker 1: with Goth Boy Click even as his own stardom eclipsed them.
- 17:55Speaker 1: But Peep had new managers in his ear, telling him
- 17:57Speaker 1: he should strike out on his own. He wondered if
- 18:00Speaker 1: he'd still be forced to wake up to the smell
- 18:02Speaker 1: of human shit if he struck out on his own.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Everything was muddled, everything was happening way too fast, but somehow,
- 18:09Speaker 1: not fast enough. Torn between loyalty to his underground friends
- 18:13Speaker 1: versus reaching his creative and financial potential, Peep would go nocturnal,
- 18:19Speaker 1: rip bowl after bowl of weed, pop Xannies, and sit
- 18:22Speaker 1: with a pit of insecurity and anxiety in his gut.
- 18:25Speaker 1: He felt guilty at the thought of letting anyone down.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Some people swear by the healing power of getting tattooed,
- 18:36Speaker 1: and I'm one of them. Despite the discomfort, getting tattooed
- 18:39Speaker 1: can be oddly soothing. There's something that happens after you
- 18:42Speaker 1: settle into the pain of a gazillion tiny needles piercing
- 18:45Speaker 1: into your skin. That pain, that sound, your body's pain-killing
- 18:50Speaker 1: endorphins barreling through your bloodstream and attack. You feel, in
- 18:54Speaker 1: a word, high. But in the best possible way, chilled out,
- 18:59Speaker 1: without the chemical mindfuck or physical sickness. There is, of course,
- 19:04Speaker 1: an emotional aspect to getting tattooed as well. It goes
- 19:08Speaker 1: without saying, but is worth mentioning, that for centuries, tattoos
- 19:11Speaker 1: have marked significant moments in their beholders' lives. Emotional inflection points,
- 19:16Speaker 1: deaths to get over, births to celebrate, drunken nights in Tijuana.
- 19:20Speaker 2: You get the point. Lil Peep was.
- 19:24Speaker 1: 20 miles north of Tijuana at the moment, in San Diego,
- 19:28Speaker 1: in a cop's garage. The cop was tattooing Peep, illegally,
- 19:32Speaker 1: again on his face. If the broken heart tattoo he
- 19:35Speaker 1: had inked on his mug three years ago didn't do
- 19:37Speaker 1: the trick, then this one definitely would.
- 19:40Speaker 2: It was huge.
- 19:41Speaker 1: It cut across the entire right side of his upper face,
- 19:44Speaker 1: in cursive, the word, crybaby.
- 19:48Speaker 2: It said a lot of things. Crybaby.
- 19:50Speaker 1: Being his breakout mixtape. The tattoo said that he was
- 19:53Speaker 1: committed to his music. The tattoo also said he was
- 19:56Speaker 1: a different.
- 19:56Speaker 2: Kind of rapper, emotional, and unafraid to let anyone know.
- 20:00Speaker 1: And perhaps most importantly, the massive tattoo across his face
- 20:04Speaker 1: said to the straight world, to the parents, the teachers,
- 20:06Speaker 1: the cops, present company excluded, of course, and perhaps even
- 20:10Speaker 1: to the members of GBC, that tattoo said one very
- 20:13Speaker 1: important thing for Lil Peep. It said, fuck off.
- 20:19Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this word, word, word.
- 20:30Speaker 1: The back piece tattoo was an even more explicit declaration
- 20:33Speaker 1: than the crybaby piece on his face. If we're not
- 20:37Speaker 1: conscious or extremely lucky or blessed, inevitably, we all suffer
- 20:41Speaker 1: in this world. And if we're fortunate, we find ways
- 20:44Speaker 1: to deal. Dealing was not Lil Peep's strong suit. His
- 20:48Speaker 1: new back tattoo would be his way of dealing. It
- 20:50Speaker 1: would also be his answer to every guidance counselor, coach,
- 20:53Speaker 1: or doubter who ever asked him what he wanted to
- 20:55Speaker 1: do with his life. The pressures of his growing career,
- 20:59Speaker 1: what to do, who to do it with, when to
- 21:01Speaker 1: do it, where to go, who to take care of,
- 21:03Speaker 1: who to care about. For a 20-year-old kid with a
- 21:05Speaker 1: fast-growing celebrity and bank account, who came from a solid
- 21:09Speaker 1: working-slash-middle-class family, who is now in the position to take
- 21:12Speaker 1: care of his friends, if not his family, all of
- 21:15Speaker 1: it was way too much for him. Especially when coupled
- 21:17Speaker 1: with his anxiety disorder and depression. not to mention while
- 21:21Speaker 1: he was self-medicating, ingesting a steady diet of back-alley antidepressants, blow,
- 21:26Speaker 1: and weed in massive quantities around the clock. But as usual,
- 21:32Speaker 1: there was solace in the soothing buzz of the gun.
- 21:35Speaker 1: Exit life, in massive Old English lettering across the upper
- 21:39Speaker 1: third of his back, and in big, bold, black, as
- 21:42Speaker 1: if to make no mistake, he was not long for
- 21:45Speaker 1: this world. Not with these pressures. Not with this pain.
- 21:53Speaker 1: Kurt Cobain wasn't long for this world either. He made
- 21:56Speaker 1: his exit in the most dramatic of fashions. A shotgun
- 21:59Speaker 1: blast to the face ripped on black tar heroin at
- 22:02Speaker 1: the height of his career in the cold confines of
- 22:04Speaker 1: his garage. His suicide note, emissive on the pain, depression,
- 22:09Speaker 1: and cruelty of fame suffered at the hands of a
- 22:11Speaker 1: tortured artist. A once-in-a-generation tortured artist, he apologized for going
- 22:17Speaker 1: through the motions on stage and not feeling passion for
- 22:20Speaker 1: music anymore. Lil Peep didn't have much to apologize for,
- 22:24Speaker 1: and he didn't really know how to say no either.
- 22:27Speaker 1: I'm talking about a lot more than the Nancy Reagan
- 22:29Speaker 1: just say no to drugs thing here, though that was
- 22:32Speaker 1: definitely a problem too, we'll get to that in a minute.
- 22:34Speaker 1: But Peep also had trouble saying no to the needs
- 22:37Speaker 1: of his boys in Gothboy Click, and he had trouble
- 22:40Speaker 1: saying no to the growing number of fans who saw
- 22:42Speaker 1: his pain expressed plainly in his songs and in 180x180
- 22:44Speaker 1: pixels of raw imagery on Instagram. Peep was so raw,
- 22:51Speaker 1: so real, so vulnerable, and gave so much of himself
- 22:55Speaker 1: to his art that his fanbase developed this strange sense
- 22:58Speaker 1: of entitlement where they felt he owed it to them
- 23:01Speaker 1: at all times to be Peep, the drugged-out, sad, hellboy
- 23:05Speaker 1: crybaby that he embodied in his music. When he played
- 23:08Speaker 1: live now, they showered him with not only praise but
- 23:11Speaker 1: with drugs, constantly heaving bags of pills, coke, weed, whatever
- 23:15Speaker 1: onto the stage during his sets. Like most rock stars,
- 23:19Speaker 1: he was swarmed post-show by fans who wanted to touch him,
- 23:22Speaker 1: fuck him, get him fucked up, do whatever, except unlike
- 23:26Speaker 1: most rock stars, Peep wasn't surrounded by protectors and handlers.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Aside from an outnumbered tour manager and road crew, Peep's
- 23:34Speaker 1: entourage consisted mainly of professional partiers. Gothboy Click, who traveled
- 23:39Speaker 1: with him, opened for him, collaborated with him during his set,
- 23:42Speaker 1: and went for it after the show. Not to be outdone,
- 23:46Speaker 1: Peep went harder than his boys. It was clear to
- 23:50Speaker 1: anyone with a responsible bone in their body that little
- 23:52Speaker 1: Peep was living on borrowed time under the current circumstances,
- 23:55Speaker 1: and Peep knew it too. Unable to say no, to
- 23:58Speaker 1: disconnect from his friends, who he felt an obligation to
- 24:01Speaker 1: share the growing wealth and fame with.
- 24:03Speaker 2: Management stepped in and shipped him off to London.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Put him up in a nice apartment, connected him with
- 24:09Speaker 1: artists like Bexy and I Love Makonnen to begin working
- 24:12Speaker 1: on new, poppier tracks like I've Been Waiting, and to
- 24:15Speaker 1: generally get him the fuck away.
- 24:17Speaker 2: From Gothboy Click before they.
- 24:19Speaker 1: All accidentally obliterated themselves with Oxys, Roxys, and whatever else
- 24:23Speaker 1: they were ingesting by the fistful. Once in Europe, Peep
- 24:28Speaker 1: committed to becoming the stadium-filling star he was born to be.
- 24:32Speaker 1: His managers didn't want the Kurt Cobain ending. They wanted
- 24:35Speaker 1: the David Bowie ending. The one where the musician is
- 24:37Speaker 1: so gifted, so charismatic, and in possession of the kind
- 24:40Speaker 1: of talent that can meld numerous seemingly disparate influences into
- 24:44Speaker 1: one unique style, and then also give voice to a
- 24:47Speaker 1: generation of kids at the same time. They wanted that
- 24:50Speaker 1: kind of talent, and they knew it could go two ways.
- 24:53Speaker 1: It could crack like Cobain or thrive, becoming a living,
- 24:56Speaker 1: breathing icon with a full career of constant cultural relevance
- 25:00Speaker 1: like Bowie. Naturally, management chose the Bowie option behind door
- 25:04Speaker 1: number two. From London, Peep was sent on tour. Shows
- 25:08Speaker 1: in Russia, Berlin, and Paris sold out. Thousands of kids
- 25:11Speaker 1: showed up to sing every word of every Peep song
- 25:14Speaker 1: back at him, full-throated, without being primed by any radio
- 25:17Speaker 1: or mainstream press support. From there, it was off to
- 25:20Speaker 1: Fashion Week in Paris, and the Men's Spring Summer Show
- 25:23Speaker 1: in Milan, and the full pop star makeover was in effect. Gucci, Balmain,
- 25:28Speaker 1: runways with Luc Savard from Marcelo Berlin in Vlon, Cartier
- 25:32Speaker 1: Ice around his neck, The paparazzi and the photographers from Vogue, Elle,
- 25:36Speaker 1: and Harper's snapping pics. Video crew following him around, journalists
- 25:40Speaker 1: hounding him. Blow-up pieces in GQ and V Magazine with
- 25:44Speaker 1: renowned Peruvian photographer Mario Testino behind the lens. It was silly, sure,
- 25:52Speaker 1: he knew that as he waited his turn backstage to
- 25:55Speaker 1: catwalk the runway mugging for the cameras. But damn if
- 25:58Speaker 1: it didn't feel good. He knew he was destined for this,
- 26:02Speaker 1: this type of stardom. the kind that leaves a permanent mark,
- 26:05Speaker 1: the kind that has a way of not washing off.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Cobain had it, Bowie too, and Lil Peep, now with
- 26:11Speaker 1: his European pop star metamorphosis near complete, was about to
- 26:15Speaker 1: head back to his home country, spread his new wings,
- 26:18Speaker 1: and prove that he had it too.
- 26:39Speaker 2: In the dream, whether it.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Was a sleeping dream or waking, he could hardly tell anymore. Regardless,
- 26:44Speaker 1: there was never enough. Never enough pills, never enough attention,
- 26:49Speaker 1: never enough he could do for his management. Never enough
- 26:52Speaker 1: love from his dad. Never enough letters from his grandpa.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Never enough time with his mom or his brother. Never
- 26:58Speaker 1: enough for his fans. Never enough energy to respond to
- 27:01Speaker 1: all of them on his socials. There was never enough
- 27:03Speaker 1: he could do for his boys, for Gothboy Click. Never
- 27:06Speaker 1: enough he could give them. Never enough money. And as always,
- 27:10Speaker 1: in the dream, there was never enough ink in the
- 27:12Speaker 1: tattoo gun. In the dream, the gun always ran dry
- 27:17Speaker 1: before completing the massive exit life piece on his back.
- 27:21Speaker 1: And holy shit did that thing look ridiculous. A small
- 27:26Speaker 1: thing to be anxious about, but a catch-all stressor for
- 27:28Speaker 1: the various pressures banging down on his chest and spinning
- 27:31Speaker 1: him out. As usual, the drugs weren't helping his anxiety.
- 27:38Speaker 1: He was taking way more than usual. More coke, more.
- 27:41Speaker 2: Xanax, and more ecstasy.
- 27:44Speaker 1: He was back in the States, and Gothboy Click was
- 27:47Speaker 1: back in the mix. He'd brought along several members as openers,
- 27:50Speaker 1: and the various others linked up with the tour for
- 27:52Speaker 1: varied shows all over the U.S. leg where they would
- 27:55Speaker 1: join in. Exposure enough for everybody. Tour was a blur
- 28:00Speaker 1: to that point. His schedule was upside down. He'd wake
- 28:03Speaker 1: up every day about 30 minutes before showtime, go straight
- 28:06Speaker 1: to the stage, crush for thousands of fans, then party
- 28:09Speaker 1: backstage until the venue threw him and his GBC crew out.
- 28:13Speaker 1: From there, they'd bring the party to the bus. More drink,
- 28:16Speaker 1: more drugs, lots of coke, lots of downers, ketamine. And
- 28:20Speaker 1: they'd go hard all night while the bus made its
- 28:22Speaker 1: way to the next venue. If there was ever a
- 28:25Speaker 1: hotel involved, Peep didn't fuck with it. There was comfort
- 28:28Speaker 1: and familiarity in the bus. He could get stoned as
- 28:31Speaker 1: fuck and pass out sometime after the sun came up. Self-contained,
- 28:35Speaker 1: there would be no struggle to find his way anywhere.
- 28:38Speaker 1: He was already there, wasted, but there. He'd wake up
- 28:41Speaker 1: wherever he passed out on the bus the night before,
- 28:44Speaker 1: smack some life into his cheeks, blast a rail, or
- 28:47Speaker 1: take whatever the beginning of his day called for to
- 28:49Speaker 1: get him going and follow his tour manager escort to
- 28:52Speaker 1: the stage. The lights would go dim, the crowd would roar,
- 28:56Speaker 1: he'd feel the natural burst of adrenaline press up from
- 28:59Speaker 1: within him, push his anxiety away from the surface, pump
- 29:03Speaker 1: his blood, and he'd then burst onto the stage, delivering
- 29:06Speaker 1: 90 minutes of prescriptive gospel to his drugged-out, anxious congregations.
- 29:12Speaker 1: They were his, he was theirs, and the communion was real.
- 29:17Speaker 1: But today was different. He was well awake upon arrival
- 29:20Speaker 1: in Tucson, Arizona on November 15th, 2017. And despite his
- 29:25Speaker 1: head being a mess and his anxiety starting to peak,
- 29:28Speaker 1: he decided to meet up with a couple of fans
- 29:30Speaker 1: who had DM'd him. They wanted to get him high.
- 29:34Speaker 1: Of course they did. All of his fans did. And
- 29:36Speaker 1: Peep wanted to get high himself, show himself to be
- 29:39Speaker 1: a comedy. To give his fans the version of himself
- 29:42Speaker 1: that they wanted to see. That they'd grown to love.
- 29:45Speaker 1: That they felt in some strange way they were owed
- 29:47Speaker 1: a piece of. Online he was so real. He breathed
- 29:51Speaker 1: life into their own anxious existence with his art so
- 29:54Speaker 1: the least they could do would be to set him up.
- 29:56Speaker 2: Get him high. Make him feel good. Return the favor.
- 30:02Speaker 1: Despite whatever his management felt, or what the press or
- 30:05Speaker 1: the fashion photographers in Milan believed, Lil Peep believed he
- 30:09Speaker 1: was an equal to his fans. At least he felt
- 30:12Speaker 1: an obligation to be. The gold-studded Balmain jacket fit well,
- 30:16Speaker 1: and the ice around his neck made him feel like
- 30:18Speaker 1: he'd arrived. But more often than not, especially in the
- 30:21Speaker 1: company of his boys and goth boy clique, Lil Peep
- 30:24Speaker 1: couldn't truck with the aloof pop star image. Raised by
- 30:28Speaker 1: a self-proclaimed anti-capitalist mom and grandfather who was a Harvard
- 30:32Speaker 1: historian and had extensively studied labor movements in Latin America,
- 30:36Speaker 1: and who stepped in for his dad who'd split, Lil
- 30:39Speaker 1: Peep had socialist ideals coursing through his blood. He believed
- 30:44Speaker 1: in equality over all else, which is why he went
- 30:47Speaker 1: to great lengths to spread the love and fruits of
- 30:49Speaker 1: his fame around Gothboy Clay. on occasion paying rent for
- 30:53Speaker 1: some of his boys, keeping them fed, wasted, blowing them
- 30:56Speaker 1: up under his spotlight on stage, and taking them on tour.
- 31:01Speaker 1: But the grind of it all was too much, especially
- 31:05Speaker 1: on this day. He posted on Instagram the day before,
- 31:08Speaker 1: November 14th, how he was feeling. I just want to
- 31:12Speaker 1: be everybody's everything. I want too much from people, but
- 31:15Speaker 1: then I don't want anything from them at the same time,
- 31:18Speaker 1: feel me? I don't let people help me, but I
- 31:20Speaker 1: need help, but not when I have my pills, but
- 31:23Speaker 1: that's temporary. One day maybe, I won't die young.
- 31:26Speaker 2: And I'll be happy. What is happy?
- 31:29Speaker 1: I always have happiness for like 10 seconds and then
- 31:32Speaker 1: it's gone.
- 31:33Speaker 2: I'm getting so tired of this.
- 31:38Speaker 1: He and his two new friends, his fans, headed to
- 31:40Speaker 1: the bus to get They went up the steps into
- 31:43Speaker 1: the grimy tour bus, littered with ashes and coke-dusted mirrors
- 31:47Speaker 1: between the makeshift bunks for Goth Boy Clint. Peep was
- 31:51Speaker 1: handed a Xanax, and he took it.
- 31:53Speaker 2: Soon after, he passed out. His new friends kept partying.
- 31:57Speaker 1: He could hear them, faintly, laughing, fucking around, texting their
- 32:01Speaker 1: friends and posting on their socials about getting wasted with
- 32:05Speaker 1: the one and only little Peep. It was out cold,
- 32:07Speaker 1: or so they thought, but Peep could still hear them,
- 32:10Speaker 1: at least a little bit.
- 32:12Speaker 2: The dream was intruding.
- 32:14Speaker 1: He could hear the sound of the tattoo gun again,
- 32:16Speaker 1: getting louder, drowning them out, filling.
- 32:19Speaker 2: Out the remaining letters on his back. Exit.
- 32:22Speaker 1: Life.
- 32:23Speaker 2: The exit letters had been done for some time. It
- 32:26Speaker 2: was the life.
- 32:27Speaker 1: Part that needed to be fully blacked out. The buzz
- 32:30Speaker 1: grew louder, the pain more blissful.
- 32:33Speaker 2: He was losing them now.
- 32:34Speaker 1: Their voices were all but completely faded. And so was
- 32:38Speaker 1: the pressure too, falling off, fading away. No more stressors.
- 32:44Speaker 1: He was losing it all. It was the only way
- 32:46Speaker 1: for him to win. The buzz grew louder, steadier, strong.
- 32:51Speaker 1: It filled in the remaining bits of life with black,
- 32:54Speaker 1: and Lil Peep made his final exit. Sometime after, Lil
- 33:02Speaker 1: Peep had completely lost consciousness, a victim of the extremely
- 33:05Speaker 1: powerful fentanyl drug that had laced the Xanax he had taken. Bexie,
- 33:10Speaker 1: one of Peep's collaborators from the UK, walked into the
- 33:13Speaker 1: back of the bus, saw Peep passed out so close
- 33:16Speaker 1: to showtime, and swears.
- 33:18Speaker 2: He heard him snoring.
- 33:19Speaker 1: Instead of checking on him more closely, he instead busted
- 33:22Speaker 1: out his camera and made an Insta story of his
- 33:25Speaker 1: friend in a joking way. Lil Peep's presence, even while
- 33:29Speaker 1: prone on the couch, lit up tiny screens all across Instagram.
- 33:33Speaker 1: Little did anyone know, Lil P was dead.
- 33:39Speaker 2: Such a disgrace.
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- 34:51Speaker 2: Rock and roll up.
- 34:55Speaker 1: He's a bad, bad man.
- 34:56Speaker 2: All right, guys.
- 34:59Speaker 1: That was a Little Peep episode of Disgraceland released way
- 35:01Speaker 1: back in 2021. Curious to know what you guys think
- 35:05Speaker 1: of Little Peep as an artist. Curious as well what
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