Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 8-31-26 Hour 2 - What's next for TEs, don't need 3 QBs/P-Wat's side of the story, Makar Money/Oh, By the Way...
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane On Demand. Listen live
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- 0:18Speaker 3: Here's Ellinger doing a little dance, now loads up, fires
- 0:21Speaker 3: middle of the field, wide open at the 50-yard line.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Justin Jolie running away from everybody.
- 0:30Speaker 4: How about 88 yards to the house?
- 0:34Speaker 2: 88 yards with 8.08.
- 0:35Speaker 5: To play in the fourth quarter, and it's all Broncos now.
- 0:40Speaker 6: You know, Justin, a talented player. We knew when we
- 0:43Speaker 6: drafted him. We knew he was raw. We still like
- 0:48Speaker 6: the player. You know, he's coming on towards the end
- 0:50Speaker 6: of training camp. You know, tight end positions are a
- 0:53Speaker 6: tough position for a rookie. He missed a lot of
- 0:55Speaker 6: the offseason, just a little bit behind. You know, we
- 0:59Speaker 6: wish we had another game or two. We still like
- 1:02Speaker 6: the player. We think he's going to have a nice career.
- 1:05Speaker 6: You know, you just got to make tough decisions and,
- 1:08Speaker 6: you know, and to build the best 53 you can make.
- 1:11Speaker 4: All right, so that is Justin Jolie's touchdown in the
- 1:13Speaker 4: third preseason game, followed by George Payton talking about the
- 1:16Speaker 4: decision to let him go. Now, what I do think
- 1:19Speaker 4: is interesting, you guys heard this, Sean Payton's post-game press
- 1:23Speaker 4: conference after that third preseason game. He was asked about
- 1:27Speaker 4: a number of different positions, and he gave a lot
- 1:29Speaker 4: of Sean Payton-y answers of like, how tough is it
- 1:32Speaker 4: going to be to cut down the roster? Well, it's
- 1:33Speaker 4: always really tough, you know, this time of the year.
- 1:36Speaker 4: He said something, though, about tight ends. So this is
- 1:40Speaker 4: Sean Payton postgame. Listen to this.
- 1:42Speaker 3: Is there more there for Ingram?
- 1:44Speaker 7: Oh, it's a great question.
- 1:46Speaker 3: All right, pause. Pause.
- 1:48Speaker 4: We know when Sean Payton hits you with a great question.
- 1:53Speaker 2: He's been thinking about it himself.
- 1:55Speaker 4: The tight end room.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Go ahead. Is there more.
- 1:57Speaker 3: There for Ingram?
- 1:58Speaker 7: Oh, it's a great question. It's a great question. And
- 2:02Speaker 7: I would say we're still working through it. You know,
- 2:06Speaker 7: just it's a deep room. Like, you know, if you
- 2:10Speaker 7: just count the numbers, which you guys are able to,
- 2:12Speaker 7: it's a deep room.
- 2:13Speaker 3: What's the role? What's the vision?
- 2:18Speaker 7: I think that's, you know, that's still something we're working
- 2:21Speaker 7: through and trying to look closely at. It's one of
- 2:27Speaker 7: the topics that will be high on the list tomorrow.
- 2:33Speaker 4: I think that that translated to, like, we are done
- 2:37Speaker 4: looking outside. Out of all the positions, and we've talked
- 2:41Speaker 4: about retention rate on this roster, how much they love
- 2:43Speaker 4: their roster, signing guys back because they love their guys,
- 2:47Speaker 4: there's one position that seems to be the one that
- 2:49Speaker 4: they just can't get.
- 2:52Speaker 2: And it's that one.
- 2:54Speaker 4: Is a fifth round pick a huge investment?
- 2:56Speaker 7: No.
- 2:57Speaker 4: But Justin Jolie was somebody that we talked about and
- 2:59Speaker 4: a lot of people talked about in training camp.
- 3:01Speaker 2: The seventh round pick made it.
- 3:02Speaker 3: You realize the Denver Broncos kept a rookie tight end
- 3:06Speaker 3: on the roster. They did. So everybody keeps barking about
- 3:10Speaker 3: Justin Jolie, and they ignore the fact that they actually
- 3:13Speaker 3: kept Dallin Bentley, who is a seventh round tight end
- 3:19Speaker 3: out of Utah. Here's why.
- 3:21Speaker 4: Do you want to know why?
- 3:22Speaker 3: Because he can block.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Dylan, Dallin, Dallin.
- 3:26Speaker 3: The reason why I.
- 3:26Speaker 4: Think people liked Joe Lee is Joe Lee was a
- 3:29Speaker 4: receiving guy. And Dallin Bentley feels like, no.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Disrespect, but Troutman.
- 3:35Speaker 4: He's a blocking guy.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Maybe that's the style they want in this offense.
- 3:40Speaker 5: No offense, he just feels like, this is going to
- 3:43Speaker 5: sound like a pejorative, but this is the best way
- 3:44Speaker 5: I can put it.
- 3:45Speaker 2: You got pretty tight ends. You got meathead tight ends.
- 3:48Speaker 2: You got tight ends in the middle, right?
- 3:50Speaker 5: He seems more like on the meathead side just to
- 3:52Speaker 5: get on out there and plow linebackers. That's what his
- 3:55Speaker 5: job is, human plow.
- 3:59Speaker 3: And they wave these guys. They cut these guys. What's
- 4:04Speaker 3: to say he doesn't end up on the Broncos practice
- 4:06Speaker 3: squad here in about?
- 4:07Speaker 4: I think very well likely could.
- 4:09Speaker 3: What's the problem?
- 4:10Speaker 4: Waiver claims have to be in by 11 o'clock today.
- 4:13Speaker 4: So that's when we'll start to find out shortly after
- 4:15Speaker 4: the show gets done if guys are leaving. Now, I
- 4:17Speaker 4: do have a feeling that Murdoch might be a guy
- 4:19Speaker 4: who gets claimed.
- 4:22Speaker 2: But did anybody else surprise you?
- 4:25Speaker 4: As far as cuts?
- 4:27Speaker 5: Like Throckmorton, did that surprise you? I guess guys who
- 4:32Speaker 5: have been around, I get surprised.
- 4:34Speaker 3: Nothing really surprised me. Jaleel didn't even surprise me.
- 4:37Speaker 2: No, not really.
- 4:37Speaker 3: And everybody who says, why keep a bidet over Jaleel?
- 4:40Speaker 3: It's a simple special teams thing. As soon as Jonah
- 4:44Speaker 3: Coleman was drafted, I think, I don't know why Jaleel
- 4:46Speaker 3: McLaughlin decided to stick around with this team, knowing that
- 4:49Speaker 3: that running back room was so packed.
- 4:55Speaker 4: Comfortable here, maybe. I mean, you said, did anything surprise me? Murdoch,
- 5:00Speaker 4: that was the only one. And it's like a mild surprise.
- 5:02Speaker 4: I wasn't like blown away. But I thought that guy
- 5:05Speaker 4: did more than enough to make the roster.
- 5:06Speaker 3: Do you think Red Murdoch's going to be swept up
- 5:09Speaker 3: by some other squad and suddenly thrust into a starting
- 5:12Speaker 3: role in the NFL?
- 5:13Speaker 2: I think he could get picked up. Picked up, but not...
- 5:16Speaker 2: You want to.
- 5:16Speaker 8: Make a bet?
- 5:16Speaker 2: He seems like a practice squad guy to me now.
- 5:19Speaker 3: Do you want to shake on it?
- 5:23Speaker 4: Look, I don't feel that strongly in it. I think
- 5:24Speaker 4: he could get picked up, though.
- 5:26Speaker 3: I was going to say, do you want to make
- 5:27Speaker 3: a bet?
- 5:28Speaker 4: I don't feel that strongly about it. All I'm saying is,
- 5:33Speaker 4: here's the thing.
- 5:35Speaker 2: The cuts.
- 5:38Speaker 4: The cuts come down to, and Peyton talks about this,
- 5:41Speaker 4: guys that you feel like could get through waivers and
- 5:46Speaker 4: brought back on practice squad. That's part of the discussion.
- 5:49Speaker 4: It's why they probably have... If you guys... didn't know this.
- 5:54Speaker 4: Here's what the Broncos did yesterday. They cut, they cut
- 5:56Speaker 4: the roster down to 55, not 53.
- 5:58Speaker 3: There's always some manipulation.
- 6:00Speaker 4: They looked at Adam Prentice and they looked at for
- 6:01Speaker 4: Boney and they said, we're going to cut you, but
- 6:03Speaker 4: we're going to bring you guys back on practice squad,
- 6:05Speaker 4: elevate you for game days, that sort of thing.
- 6:06Speaker 3: And they said, okay, knowing full well that nobody else
- 6:09Speaker 3: is really going to touch some of these guys that they're,
- 6:11Speaker 3: they're right.
- 6:12Speaker 4: Well, those are, I think those are the vested veteran things.
- 6:15Speaker 3: So these are.
- 6:15Speaker 4: Subject to waivers.
- 6:17Speaker 2: No, I think they're not subject to waivers.
- 6:22Speaker 4: That's what I said.
- 6:24Speaker 3: So much of roster construction operates in the margins. And
- 6:27Speaker 3: the Broncos are really good with Peyton and both Peytons
- 6:31Speaker 3: at operating in these margins when they're constructing their rosters.
- 6:34Speaker 2: They're really good at this. Yeah, they are.
- 6:38Speaker 4: Here's my thing, though, and I'll keep going back to this.
- 6:42Speaker 4: And Nelly, can you bring this back for me?
- 6:44Speaker 9: Can you?
- 6:44Speaker 4: Play a cut three from George Payton and it's the
- 6:48Speaker 4: decision to keep three quarterbacks again on the active roster.
- 6:52Speaker 4: Here's what he said.
- 6:52Speaker 6: No, we love the quarterback room. I mean, we stated
- 6:54Speaker 6: that a lot. I mean, Sam, uh, Stitty, we thought
- 6:57Speaker 6: they both had really good off seasons, really good training
- 6:59Speaker 6: camps and, and, uh, and in the games, um, you know,
- 7:03Speaker 6: Sam's a big part of this quarterback room. We didn't
- 7:05Speaker 6: want to lose them and we felt we were going
- 7:06Speaker 6: to lose them. He's too important to our team. And
- 7:10Speaker 6: just didn't want to risk doing that. Obviously the game
- 7:12Speaker 6: you played the other night was outstanding. So we love
- 7:15Speaker 6: the room. We're going to keep the room together.
- 7:17Speaker 4: I just, I don't know what the point is in
- 7:19Speaker 4: today's NFL to keeping three guys at that position on
- 7:22Speaker 4: the active roster. You need a guy on practice squad.
- 7:24Speaker 4: Of course, you need to have a third guy there somewhere,
- 7:27Speaker 4: but to use one of those spots that they love
- 7:33Speaker 4: on the active roster on another QB just doesn't make
- 7:36Speaker 4: sense to me. And, Again, I'll put it to you
- 7:41Speaker 4: this way. From just a straight numbers perspective, Sam Ellinger
- 7:45Speaker 4: is going to play zero snaps for you this year.
- 7:48Speaker 4: And if he plays more than zero, your season's probably
- 7:52Speaker 4: not going all that well. So from that perspective, in
- 7:58Speaker 4: a case for a guy like Murdoch, Murdoch would have
- 8:00Speaker 4: played snaps this year. I don't know how many, but
- 8:02Speaker 4: he would have been on the field in some capacity.
- 8:05Speaker 4: filling in for an injured sternod or special teams or something,
- 8:09Speaker 4: he would have played. So you're taking a guy who's
- 8:11Speaker 4: never going to play and cutting a guy who would
- 8:13Speaker 4: have played.
- 8:14Speaker 3: This is a real easy answer to your question. Murdoch
- 8:18Speaker 3: is not going to be claimed. Ellinger would have been claimed.
- 8:22Speaker 3: He would have been, he would have taken off somewhere else.
- 8:24Speaker 4: But what's the point at all? Take Murdoch off the table.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Here's the point. Here's the point. And this is, I
- 8:30Speaker 3: think there's two points. Number one, there could be some
- 8:32Speaker 3: trade value down the line having an extra quarterback. We've
- 8:35Speaker 3: already seen teams looking for extra quarterbacks. So there could
- 8:38Speaker 3: be trade value. Number two, I think the Broncos are
- 8:41Speaker 3: telling Ellinger, and I think this is the discussion behind
- 8:43Speaker 3: the scenes, stick around, stay in this, stay in this race,
- 8:47Speaker 3: because eventually we're going to have to pay Bo. And
- 8:49Speaker 3: once we pay Bo, you know what's going to happen
- 8:51Speaker 3: with Jarrett. You're not going to be able to afford
- 8:52Speaker 3: Jarrett and Bo. Jarrett's gone. You're going to be our
- 8:55Speaker 3: long-term number two. Stick around. Just stick around. Trust me.
- 8:59Speaker 3: That's what's at play.
- 9:00Speaker 1: True.
- 9:01Speaker 5: It's the long-term plan, I think, or the longer-term plan,
- 9:06Speaker 5: that they like this guy. He plays the game more
- 9:07Speaker 5: like Bo. They don't want to let him just go
- 9:10Speaker 5: someplace else and.
- 9:10Speaker 2: Get picked up.
- 9:11Speaker 3: And he's looking at it and saying, you know what?
- 9:14Speaker 3: I like this road. I could see this road better
- 9:18Speaker 3: than I can at other teams.
- 9:20Speaker 5: So they value that, whether it's a tiny bit or
- 9:23Speaker 5: a lot, they value that more than keeping a seventh-round
- 9:27Speaker 5: pick linebacker for depth.
- 9:29Speaker 2: That's what it is.
- 9:33Speaker 4: Everybody's saying it's for trade value.
- 9:35Speaker 2: I could see it.
- 9:38Speaker 4: I would feel a lot stronger in that if we
- 9:41Speaker 4: didn't just go through this two years ago where they
- 9:43Speaker 4: had Zach Wilson on the roster for nothing.
- 9:45Speaker 3: Listen, I just can't believe how... upset you are.
- 9:49Speaker 2: I'm thinking the same thing.
- 9:50Speaker 3: You seem upset.
- 9:51Speaker 5: No, you don't seem upset. I've got it figured out. Vic,
- 9:55Speaker 5: I've got it figured out with this guy. I mean,
- 9:57Speaker 5: it only took me seven and a half years, but
- 9:59Speaker 5: I got it figured out.
- 10:00Speaker 7: Out.
- 10:02Speaker 2: He does have a brain, and he does try to
- 10:05Speaker 2: work it on occasion.
- 10:06Speaker 3: I don't do this fake radio get upset for fake reasons.
- 10:09Speaker 10: He's upset.
- 10:10Speaker 5: There's a lot of people in this market who know that.
- 10:12Speaker 5: I could not be more relaxed sitting here. You're misunderstanding
- 10:15Speaker 5: the situation.
- 10:16Speaker 4: I'm starting to not be relaxed by you keep saying
- 10:18Speaker 4: something I'm not.
- 10:19Speaker 3: Okay.
- 10:21Speaker 2: His brain does work.
- 10:22Speaker 5: So what he's doing is not really fighting for Red
- 10:25Speaker 5: Murdoch because he thinks this guy is a real player, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 10:28Speaker 2: I like Red too.
- 10:29Speaker 5: But he's trying to figure things out. He's trying to
- 10:32Speaker 5: see the logic behind it. And because he can't see
- 10:35Speaker 5: that logic because he's really not that great of a thinker,
- 10:37Speaker 5: then it frustrates him. And that's what you're getting.
- 10:40Speaker 4: It has less to do. I'm just using Red Murdoch
- 10:44Speaker 4: as an example. You could take this for, you could
- 10:46Speaker 4: make it Jaleel. You could make it Jolie. You could
- 10:48Speaker 4: make it anybody else. The point to this is, I
- 10:51Speaker 4: don't see any value in having a third-string.
- 10:54Speaker 3: Quarterback on the roster.
- 10:55Speaker 2: He's trying. He's trying to understand. And I get it.
- 10:58Speaker 2: We love you. We still love you.
- 11:00Speaker 4: Can somebody explain to me the point of having Zach
- 11:02Speaker 4: Wilson on the roster two years ago? What was that for?
- 11:06Speaker 3: They think that if they developed him long-term enough, they'd click,
- 11:08Speaker 3: it would happen. It's very much like people are going
- 11:11Speaker 3: to argue– Why would the Broncos expend all those picks?
- 11:14Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they just collect those picks, trade up, and
- 11:17Speaker 3: use them of value during the draft if they knew
- 11:19Speaker 3: these guys weren't going to make the team? And my
- 11:21Speaker 3: answer to that is simple.
- 11:22Speaker 4: Oh, that's not fair, yeah.
- 11:23Speaker 3: Yeah, my answer to that is simple. First of all,
- 11:25Speaker 3: it's easier said than done than to collect a bunch
- 11:29Speaker 3: of guys and try to move up. You try to make,
- 11:33Speaker 3: you try to find that That guy who's going to shine.
- 11:36Speaker 3: You take a chance. That's what the seventh round is.
- 11:40Speaker 3: That's what the fifth round is. Do you think the
- 11:41Speaker 3: fifth round is a sure thing?
- 11:44Speaker 7: No.
- 11:44Speaker 3: The fifth round is, hey, let's take a shot at
- 11:46Speaker 3: this guy. Let's see what happens.
- 11:48Speaker 4: I love this.
- 11:49Speaker 2: This is what you should do.
- 11:50Speaker 4: You're taking shots at guys and hopefully, you know, you
- 11:52Speaker 4: chuck a dart and it sticks somewhere. I have no
- 11:56Speaker 4: problem with that. We knew from the very beginning. How
- 11:59Speaker 4: many guys are bringing back to this roster with how
- 12:01Speaker 4: many draft picks that they did have, even though they're late?
- 12:03Speaker 2: It was going to be.
- 12:04Speaker 4: Hard for anybody to make this roster.
- 12:06Speaker 2: It was 51 of 53.
- 12:07Speaker 11: Okay?
- 12:09Speaker 2: And there's only six new guys, period, total.
- 12:12Speaker 4: So now that's what, 45 of 53 are back. I
- 12:16Speaker 4: think it's like eight new guys to the 53-man roster
- 12:20Speaker 4: from the beginning of the year, but that includes guys
- 12:23Speaker 4: like Lil Jordan Humphrey, who didn't make the roster last year,
- 12:26Speaker 4: but were very clearly part of the roster.
- 12:28Speaker 3: He did this year, which is crazy. As far as
- 12:31Speaker 3: the new names, I think these are all the ones.
- 12:33Speaker 3: Let's see if you can identify the six players on
- 12:36Speaker 3: the initial 53 roster. That were not on the team
- 12:39Speaker 3: last year.
- 12:40Speaker 4: Are we including guys like Lil Jordan Humphrey or not?
- 12:43Speaker 3: No.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Okay. Do you want help with this or you got
- 12:46Speaker 2: it all?
- 12:47Speaker 4: No, I got it.
- 12:47Speaker 2: It's Jonah.
- 12:48Speaker 3: Yes, there's one.
- 12:49Speaker 4: It is Dallin Bentley.
- 12:51Speaker 3: Two.
- 12:52Speaker 4: It is Cage Casey.
- 12:53Speaker 2: That is correct.
- 12:55Speaker 1: It is.
- 12:58Speaker 4: Hang on. That safety that's the special team or Tyson Anderson.
- 13:02Speaker 2: That's correct.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Four. It is.
- 13:08Speaker 2: The defensive lineman.
- 13:09Speaker 3: Tyler Onyedem.
- 13:10Speaker 4: Onyedem?
- 13:11Speaker 3: Five.
- 13:12Speaker 4: One more.
- 13:13Speaker 3: Real easy.
- 13:14Speaker 4: Come on, Brett. Come on, Brett.
- 13:16Speaker 3: Real easy.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Real easy.
- 13:20Speaker 3: Who was the big acquisition in the offseason?
- 13:22Speaker 4: Oh, Jalen Waddell.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Duh. Yeah.
- 13:26Speaker 4: Like, that's your six.
- 13:27Speaker 2: It sounded like you need a little help.
- 13:29Speaker 7: Well, if you just count the numbers, which you guys
- 13:32Speaker 7: are able to.
- 13:34Speaker 2: I was counting, and you got stuck a little bit.
- 13:37Speaker 4: I wonder how long they're carrying six wide receivers is
- 13:40Speaker 4: pretty surprising.
- 13:40Speaker 3: So there's Jonathan Cooper thing. He starts on the NFL
- 13:44Speaker 3: commissioners exempt list. Yeah. How long is every player different
- 13:49Speaker 3: on that list? Every player is different, right? The exempt list.
- 13:52Speaker 3: Like Josh Jacobs is on that list.
- 13:56Speaker 4: Jonathan Cooper's on that list. I, I think in this case,
- 14:01Speaker 4: it's like they're waiting for this court thing to be done.
- 14:03Speaker 3: That's today. Today. He's a rain today. Jonathan Cooper.
- 14:06Speaker 4: So all that is, it's a player who is not.
- 14:10Speaker 2: It's a placeholder.
- 14:12Speaker 4: He's on paid leave.
- 14:13Speaker 5: Okay.
- 14:14Speaker 3: That's almost dumb for a team like the Broncos that
- 14:17Speaker 3: let's say you wanted to keep one guy on your
- 14:19Speaker 3: team that didn't get claimed. That's almost like a gift.
- 14:23Speaker 3: Cause you're an extra roster spot.
- 14:25Speaker 4: I thought about that though. Like yes, but is it,
- 14:32Speaker 4: Is it almost like when you do put some, when
- 14:34Speaker 4: he comes back, you're going to have to cut somebody
- 14:36Speaker 4: who would be subject to waivers. Wouldn't you almost, if
- 14:39Speaker 4: you wanted to try and hide somebody, you would do
- 14:41Speaker 4: it yesterday as opposed to when Cooper comes back. So
- 14:44Speaker 4: his name's not alone. Well, you were talking just a
- 14:47Speaker 4: giant mash of a thousand players.
- 14:49Speaker 3: So we, we always wonder about surprises. Be honest. At
- 14:52Speaker 3: any point in the training camp, did you think Dallin
- 14:54Speaker 3: Bentley was going to make this team?
- 14:55Speaker 2: No, no.
- 14:56Speaker 3: That's the one biggest surprise of all the players on
- 15:00Speaker 3: this roster. The biggest surprise is Dallin Bentley.
- 15:03Speaker 4: Because I can't evaluate tight end blocking at training camp.
- 15:08Speaker 3: And special teams.
- 15:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:10Speaker 5: I always feel bad for guys who today they think,
- 15:12Speaker 5: oh man, I made it.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Mom, I didn't get cut. I'm good.
- 15:17Speaker 4: Just wait a minute.
- 15:18Speaker 2: When Taylor Rapp comes back, Tyson Anderson is.
- 15:22Speaker 4: No, Anderson they sign in the offseason specifically for special teams.
- 15:25Speaker 4: He might be safe.
- 15:26Speaker 3: You think so?
- 15:27Speaker 5: Okay, but when Cooper comes back, again, somebody out of
- 15:30Speaker 5: that Linebacking Corps is going to have to go.
- 15:34Speaker 4: Wasn't Tyson Anderson like the only free agent signing? Because
- 15:38Speaker 4: Waddle was a trade. I think he was the only
- 15:40Speaker 4: free agent.
- 15:40Speaker 2: Might have been.
- 15:41Speaker 4: Anyway, get back to this in a little bit. 303-504-0925
- 15:45Speaker 4: back after this. Hey, get back to the football stuff
- 15:49Speaker 4: in a second. I just want to, do we even
- 15:55Speaker 4: want to go through this again? Can we just take
- 15:58Speaker 4: a show vote real quick? I have audio. Are we
- 16:03Speaker 4: done with the Peyton Watson stuff or not?
- 16:05Speaker 3: I saw over the weekend.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Are we done with this?
- 16:07Speaker 4: Do you even want to discuss it? Is it worth it?
- 16:09Speaker 5: What? I saw it over the weekend, and I'm like,
- 16:13Speaker 5: this will be the last. I gave myself 15 minutes
- 16:17Speaker 5: to care. And then I said, this is it for me.
- 16:21Speaker 4: I have audio of him with MPJ. Do we want
- 16:23Speaker 4: to play it, or do you just want to not
- 16:24Speaker 4: talk about it at all?
- 16:25Speaker 3: Well, it's going to elicit some response, so you might
- 16:28Speaker 3: as well. You've talked about it. Let's play it. I
- 16:31Speaker 3: have an opinion. You will have one. Our listeners certainly
- 16:34Speaker 3: will as well. It's over. He's not a part of
- 16:36Speaker 3: this team anymore. He's moved on. I wish nothing but
- 16:40Speaker 3: the best for Peyton Watson. I love the kid, but
- 16:43Speaker 3: I knew this was going to come up after the fact.
- 16:46Speaker 4: We'll spend five minutes and that's it.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Deal?
- 16:48Speaker 4: Five minutes on this. Here you go.
- 16:49Speaker 9: Obviously when I got injured in New York, it was
- 16:52Speaker 9: just a sickening feeling because I was like, I was
- 16:54Speaker 9: up to when most improved.
- 16:56Speaker 4: Like I was up for a lot of stuff.
- 16:57Speaker 9: It really hurt. Two or three weeks into my rehab,
- 17:00Speaker 9: I felt like they were kind of ramping me back
- 17:02Speaker 9: up too quickly. But at the same time, I know
- 17:04Speaker 9: that I'm young and I know that I do heal
- 17:06Speaker 9: pretty fast. But like two or three weeks into my
- 17:09Speaker 9: hamstring rehab, like I was out there playing with the
- 17:12Speaker 9: coaches and I just felt like a little tweet and
- 17:14Speaker 9: I I felt like that was like kind of a
- 17:16Speaker 9: minor setback that I didn't really like want to accept.
- 17:19Speaker 9: And I remember feeling pressure to get back and get
- 17:21Speaker 9: some games under my belt to warm up before playoffs.
- 17:24Speaker 9: I remember going out there, like one of the last
- 17:26Speaker 9: games of the season versus Utah and re-injuring my hamstring.
- 17:30Speaker 9: So we went and we got an MRI and basically
- 17:33Speaker 9: the doctors came back and they were like, it looks
- 17:34Speaker 9: the same way that it did when you injured it
- 17:36Speaker 9: the first time, which was a grade two hamstring strain,
- 17:39Speaker 9: literally in game 80 of the season. So now I'm like, bro.
- 17:43Speaker 9: I feel like we kind of rushed it and we
- 17:44Speaker 9: didn't take the right approach. I remember going into the
- 17:47Speaker 9: playoffs and I just didn't feel healthy.
- 17:51Speaker 4: That's his side of this. And I've maintained from the
- 17:53Speaker 4: very beginning. I think Peyton Watson sat out in the
- 17:57Speaker 4: playoffs because Peyton Watson was hurt. That's why. I don't
- 18:00Speaker 4: think it had to do with the contract. I don't
- 18:02Speaker 4: think any of that stuff. Now, when you say that,
- 18:05Speaker 4: you're like, oh yeah, well, AG was hurt too and
- 18:08Speaker 4: he pushed through it. I know. But is that the
- 18:11Speaker 4: wisest thing to do? Like a texture says he quit
- 18:14Speaker 4: on the team. Bleep this guy.
- 18:15Speaker 5: Okay.
- 18:17Speaker 4: I mean, at some point guys, I, I most, can
- 18:21Speaker 4: you back me up on something that I said during
- 18:23Speaker 4: the playoff series? Christian Brown was playing through an injury
- 18:27Speaker 4: that was affecting the team negatively because he couldn't play.
- 18:30Speaker 4: And I said, take him out. Take him out. He
- 18:32Speaker 4: is not... I give guys credit for trying to play
- 18:35Speaker 4: through an injury. If you cannot be effective while playing
- 18:38Speaker 4: through the injury, you can't play. You aren't helping anything.
- 18:42Speaker 4: And I think in a lot of cases over the
- 18:43Speaker 4: last couple of years... Was MPJ helping or hurting the
- 18:46Speaker 4: team two years ago by playing in that playoff series?
- 18:49Speaker 5: It felt like he hurt, but they didn't really have
- 18:52Speaker 5: any other options, bro.
- 18:53Speaker 3: Listen, those guys, they played because they could, because they
- 18:56Speaker 3: had the financial stability and security to throw it out there.
- 19:01Speaker 3: I understand the whole Peyton thing. However, the only problem
- 19:05Speaker 3: I have with that soundbite, that interview, is just throwing
- 19:09Speaker 3: the entire medical team under the bus as if they
- 19:11Speaker 3: rushed you back.
- 19:12Speaker 7: Sure.
- 19:12Speaker 3: It's your body. You feel the way you feel. If anything,
- 19:17Speaker 3: in my experiences with the Nuggets, they've gone beyond the
- 19:22Speaker 3: due date of when to come back. They've been ultra
- 19:25Speaker 3: cautious in when to come back. I mean, I remember
- 19:29Speaker 3: specifically certain players going, all right, it's time. Oh, they
- 19:32Speaker 3: went two more weeks. Wow, geez. I totally disagree with
- 19:37Speaker 3: that mindset that they rush you back. That is unequivocally false. Well,
- 19:43Speaker 3: here's the thing.
- 19:44Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. I could see them
- 19:48Speaker 4: with the playoffs approaching. knowing some other guys are dealing
- 19:53Speaker 4: with some stuff. Could they have pressured him? Maybe.
- 19:57Speaker 7: Maybe.
- 19:57Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 19:59Speaker 7: But.
- 20:02Speaker 4: He had the hamstring, came back, had the hamstring again.
- 20:04Speaker 4: You just don't know about those injuries.
- 20:06Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm saying. You could be three months
- 20:08Speaker 3: down the line, and you can have.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Look at Jalen Williams.
- 20:11Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 20:11Speaker 3: Broke KC. This whole season was lost on hamstring injuries. So,
- 20:18Speaker 3: you always want someone to blame, and this just feels
- 20:20Speaker 3: like they're blaming someone. No one's to blame here.
- 20:23Speaker 4: It's your body.
- 20:24Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 20:26Speaker 3: Blame your body. What's up?
- 20:31Speaker 2: I come from a hockey perspective, though. The Avs do
- 20:35Speaker 2: the same thing.
- 20:36Speaker 5: Look, they're going to wait for you to be healthy
- 20:38Speaker 5: before you get back on the ice. But guys want
- 20:42Speaker 5: to play in the postseason. I don't know.
- 20:45Speaker 2: I mean, I can understand it.
- 20:46Speaker 5: I just think there's probably more to it, Brett, than
- 20:51Speaker 5: you're giving credit to. But if you want to convince
- 20:55Speaker 5: me that he was really hurt and that he was
- 20:57Speaker 5: just going to be a liability, I can get on
- 20:59Speaker 5: that train.
- 21:00Speaker 2: But could he have gone? Could he have gone?
- 21:06Speaker 4: The tough thing with hockey is, first of all, the
- 21:08Speaker 4: mindsets are completely different. They're different animals in the NHL,
- 21:11Speaker 4: number one. Number two, there is something to the idea,
- 21:17Speaker 4: and we've talked about this much, you take a puck
- 21:21Speaker 4: off the face, there's no risk of getting that more
- 21:25Speaker 4: hurt when you wear a cage in front of it,
- 21:27Speaker 4: like Brock Nelson did for a while, right?
- 21:30Speaker 2: Soft tissue is different.
- 21:32Speaker 4: You can damage that further by pushing it. It's a
- 21:35Speaker 4: different thing, but I agree. Like, do I think it's
- 21:38Speaker 4: really cool that guys like AG and Christian Brown push
- 21:40Speaker 4: through an injury to go out there and give their all?
- 21:43Speaker 2: Yes.
- 21:44Speaker 4: But I don't know. It was just a weird situation.
- 21:47Speaker 2: I'll leave it at this. You can believe me or not.
- 21:50Speaker 3: And frankly, if you don't, I can't change your mind.
- 21:53Speaker 3: Trust me when I say this, just please. And no point.
- 21:58Speaker 3: Is this medical staff or anybody pushing players to play
- 22:01Speaker 3: when they're not healthy? That is the dumbest thing I've
- 22:04Speaker 3: ever heard. Their jobs are at stake. These players' livelihoods
- 22:08Speaker 3: are at stake. There's too much, too much out there
- 22:11Speaker 3: at stake. At no point do the Nuggets or their
- 22:15Speaker 3: staff push people to play when they can't. The choice
- 22:18Speaker 3: is on the player most of the time. The player.
- 22:21Speaker 2: The end.
- 22:22Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 22:23Speaker 4: 303-504-0925.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Yes, Moshe.
- 22:26Speaker 2: It felt like it seemed like more than five minutes.
- 22:30Speaker 4: No, I think it was right at five.
- 22:33Speaker 7: Nelly?
- 22:33Speaker 4: I think we nailed it.
- 22:35Speaker 2: No, don't start counting.
- 22:37Speaker 4: If you want to add in the minute-long audio, it
- 22:39Speaker 4: was probably six and a half, to your credit.
- 22:42Speaker 2: Don't count.
- 22:45Speaker 3: And for those of you who wonder why did they
- 22:48Speaker 3: put Christian Brown back in the game, have you ever
- 22:50Speaker 3: played sports? I'm asking this person right here. Have you
- 22:53Speaker 3: ever played sports? You ever played team sports? You ever
- 22:56Speaker 3: gotten hurt when you're playing sports and you get hurt
- 22:58Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, no, it's fine.
- 22:59Speaker 2: It's good. I'm good. I'm good.
- 23:01Speaker 3: Let's go. And you go back and you play.
- 23:03Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not good.
- 23:04Speaker 3: Have you ever seen that? If you're asking why Christian
- 23:08Speaker 3: Brown returned to the Clippers game when he got hurt
- 23:11Speaker 3: and you're asking why, what do you think happened? Do
- 23:14Speaker 3: you think the trainer said, come on, come on, kid,
- 23:16Speaker 3: you're tough. Do you think that happened to the professional level? Moj,
- 23:21Speaker 3: are there trainers yelling at players saying, come on, you're good,
- 23:24Speaker 3: toughen it up? What's happening? What's happening?
- 23:27Speaker 2: If anything, the exercise twice as much caution. So what
- 23:30Speaker 2: do you think?
- 23:30Speaker 3: Why do you think Christian Brown returned to that game?
- 23:32Speaker 2: Because he wanted to.
- 23:33Speaker 3: Because he felt, oh, man, this doesn't work that bad.
- 23:36Speaker 2: I'll be okay. Yeah, I'll be okay. So stop it.
- 23:38Speaker 2: Stop it with your ridiculous notions.
- 23:42Speaker 4: Hale signs a eight-year contract at $ 20. 4 million per year.
- 23:50Speaker 4: The max he could have signed for, Moj, was 20.8
- 23:52Speaker 4: per year.
- 23:55Speaker 2: That's correct.
- 23:55Speaker 4: So he took 0.4 less than that. But this is
- 23:59Speaker 4: the same thing that I've thought forever, that Kale McCarr is.
- 24:02Speaker 2: By the way, the news conference today is what, at
- 24:03Speaker 2: 1 o'clock?
- 24:04Speaker 4: And we will run that live.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Yes, it's at 1 o'clock.
- 24:06Speaker 4: We'll run that live right here on 925.
- 24:07Speaker 3: Oh, and you know what?
- 24:08Speaker 2: Where do you think it's at?
- 24:10Speaker 3: Is it the Colorado Social?
- 24:11Speaker 2: No, it's at Inverness.
- 24:13Speaker 4: Really?
- 24:14Speaker 7: Why?
- 24:14Speaker 3: It might be just a play around while you're there.
- 24:16Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe Joe's getting in at 18 in the morning,
- 24:19Speaker 2: and then... You know what?
- 24:21Speaker 4: If I were Joe Sackick, I'd do that too. By
- 24:23Speaker 4: the way, end of the year press conference is going
- 24:25Speaker 4: to be at Castle Pines. Anyway, the contract for McCarr,
- 24:32Speaker 4: I think, says two things. It puts a little bit
- 24:35Speaker 4: of a fire on if we're going to win, let's
- 24:38Speaker 4: do this quickly before we have to make some big decisions.
- 24:41Speaker 4: Those will come a couple after this year, but more
- 24:45Speaker 4: two years down the road. You'll get relief from this
- 24:48Speaker 4: as the years go on. there are going to be
- 24:51Speaker 4: a bunch of people making way more money than kale three,
- 24:56Speaker 4: four years from now, just going to be what happens.
- 25:01Speaker 5: Why are people, if anybody is upset by this or
- 25:06Speaker 5: uncomfortable with it, why do you think that is upset
- 25:10Speaker 5: by what the contract you just signed the best defenseman
- 25:15Speaker 5: in the game?
- 25:15Speaker 2: I mean, I suppose you could make an argument. Well,
- 25:19Speaker 2: you know, it's a lot of the salary cap. What
- 25:21Speaker 2: do you say, no? It's going to restrict. But that's
- 25:23Speaker 2: the thing.
- 25:24Speaker 3: What do you say, no? For all the people.
- 25:25Speaker 2: You don't say no. You say yes.
- 25:28Speaker 10: How much?
- 25:28Speaker 2: Yes. What exactly? How much you want?
- 25:31Speaker 3: Yes. What exactly is the alternative for those who are
- 25:34Speaker 3: upset about this?
- 25:35Speaker 5: Nah.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Nah, we're good.
- 25:39Speaker 3: Nah. The phone keeps buzzing. Is that your phone?
- 25:44Speaker 4: My wife's texting me. I have things happening.
- 25:47Speaker 2: It's okay.
- 25:48Speaker 4: Here, I'll put it in my pocket.
- 25:48Speaker 7: No, no.
- 25:49Speaker 3: It's like, is there an emergency going on? Is she
- 25:52Speaker 3: all right?
- 25:52Speaker 4: It's not an emergency.
- 25:53Speaker 5: It's fine.
- 25:53Speaker 3: Lindsay.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Hey, listen. My point is this. You're right, Brett. If
- 25:59Speaker 2: things continue the way they've been continuing, that doesn't make sense.
- 26:02Speaker 2: The way they've been going.
- 26:04Speaker 5: The cap's going to keep going up because it's tied
- 26:06Speaker 5: to league revenues. But the National Hockey League overall is
- 26:09Speaker 5: in a pretty healthy spot. Now, they don't have the
- 26:12Speaker 5: overall money of the other three bigs, but... But for
- 26:16Speaker 5: what they do, they're in a pretty healthy spot. I think, Brett,
- 26:19Speaker 5: that you're right. I think that in five years, this
- 26:22Speaker 5: is going to look like, oh, Avs got a pretty.
- 26:25Speaker 2: Decent deal there. Pretty decent.
- 26:28Speaker 5: It's not the same kind of situation as a Kaprizov,
- 26:31Speaker 5: where you wanted to pay him 11 or 12, and
- 26:33Speaker 5: he said.
- 26:37Speaker 5: It's going to take 17 for me to stay here
- 26:39Speaker 5: in Minnesota. And Billy Guerin's like, damn it.
- 26:41Speaker 4: All right.
- 26:42Speaker 2: And hamstrings them. You knew this was coming. You were
- 26:44Speaker 2: prepared for it. You've been looking at it. And this
- 26:47Speaker 2: is the best defenseman on the planet.
- 26:48Speaker 4: What's funny to me is the people that would say
- 26:50Speaker 4: something like, I'd rather have Roman Yossi at nine.
- 26:54Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't.
- 26:54Speaker 4: No, you wouldn't.
- 26:55Speaker 3: No, you wouldn't rather have that. Well, let me read
- 26:57Speaker 3: a couple of the texts. Well, upset because it's a
- 26:59Speaker 3: ton of money and that doesn't leave very much for
- 27:01Speaker 3: the rest of the team or anyone else who wants
- 27:03Speaker 3: to sign.
- 27:04Speaker 2: I don't care.
- 27:04Speaker 3: You still signed the best. defenseman in the game for
- 27:07Speaker 3: whatever the hell he wants. This texter writes in, nobody's upset.
- 27:10Speaker 3: Some are bummed out that he didn't take a discount
- 27:12Speaker 3: like McKinnon did. Well, he did take a discount on
- 27:15Speaker 3: the last one.
- 27:16Speaker 1: Yes.
- 27:16Speaker 3: So how many discounts do you want your players to take?
- 27:18Speaker 3: I don't blame him.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Neither do I.
- 27:21Speaker 3: Joker's not taking a discount.
- 27:22Speaker 7: What?
- 27:23Speaker 3: What is it incumbent on the players now to all
- 27:25Speaker 3: take discounts? What is this field day? Every player is
- 27:31Speaker 3: supposed to take a discount now?
- 27:32Speaker 2: Why?
- 27:33Speaker 3: That's the thing that gets me about the whole, like,
- 27:36Speaker 3: why doesn't Joker take a discount like Jalen Brunson? Why
- 27:39Speaker 3: doesn't Kale take a discount? Why doesn't every other player
- 27:42Speaker 3: take one then? Why doesn't every player take a haircut
- 27:46Speaker 3: for the benefit of the team if that's what we're doing?
- 27:48Speaker 4: This is why people hate when players.
- 27:49Speaker 3: The Democratic way.
- 27:51Speaker 4: This is why people hate when players do this, by
- 27:54Speaker 4: the way. Other players hate it.
- 27:55Speaker 3: What, do we live in a communal?
- 27:56Speaker 4: When somebody takes a discount, now all of a sudden
- 27:59Speaker 4: it's like, well, why don't you? And it's like, well,
- 28:00Speaker 4: I don't want to.
- 28:02Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. Well, you know, Joker and Kale should take
- 28:05Speaker 3: discounts because they make the most money. Okay, what about
- 28:07Speaker 3: the guy that makes the second most money?
- 28:09Speaker 4: Here's what's hilarious.
- 28:10Speaker 3: What about the guy that makes the third most money?
- 28:11Speaker 3: Should he take one too?
- 28:13Speaker 4: Every time, I still remember when the Raiders did this
- 28:16Speaker 4: and it made no sense to me. Let me just
- 28:18Speaker 4: give you an example of something. A mentality in sports
- 28:21Speaker 4: that I don't understand. The Oakland Raiders at the time
- 28:26Speaker 4: were picking very high in the draft. I forget what
- 28:28Speaker 4: the exact pick was. It was like number two, number three,
- 28:30Speaker 4: number four, something like that. And they chose future Hall
- 28:33Speaker 4: of Famer Khalil Mack, right? Khalil Mack plays, and he
- 28:38Speaker 4: plays not just to the level of where they drafted him,
- 28:41Speaker 4: above and beyond that level. And then on his fifth
- 28:45Speaker 4: year of the contract, they go, well, I don't want
- 28:47Speaker 4: to pay that money. I'm going to trade him. And
- 28:50Speaker 4: they get traded. a couple of first rounders in return.
- 28:52Speaker 4: And what do they do with one of the first?
- 28:54Speaker 2: They use them in the same position.
- 28:55Speaker 4: They draft the defensive lineman who is not Khalil Mack.
- 28:58Speaker 3: Correct.
- 28:58Speaker 4: And my whole thing is, you drafted somebody hoping, praying
- 29:02Speaker 4: to the gods, please be a Hall of Famer. And
- 29:05Speaker 4: they become a Hall of Famer. And then you're like, well,
- 29:07Speaker 4: I don't want to pay that now. That makes no sense.
- 29:11Speaker 4: When you get a Hall of Famer, you pay him.
- 29:13Speaker 4: And if he goes, I want to make the most
- 29:14Speaker 4: money I can make, then you go, you know what? Fine.
- 29:17Speaker 4: Because this is what I drafted you to do.
- 29:21Speaker 2: When did they trade him? Trade who? Khalil Mack. They
- 29:24Speaker 2: traded him to the Bears. When did they trade him?
- 29:27Speaker 3: A couple years ago.
- 29:29Speaker 5: No.
- 29:29Speaker 2: Three years ago?
- 29:30Speaker 3: Four years ago?
- 29:30Speaker 4: Like 15 years ago? Something like that.
- 29:32Speaker 7: Huh?
- 29:33Speaker 3: 15 years ago?
- 29:34Speaker 2: No, not that long. What the hell are you talking about?
- 29:37Speaker 2: He would be out of the league.
- 29:38Speaker 7: Uh.
- 29:40Speaker 2: Traded him.
- 29:41Speaker 4: 2018.
- 29:42Speaker 2: Okay. You know what they did do the next year?
- 29:44Speaker 4: And I guess.
- 29:45Speaker 2: They got lucky. They drafted Max Crosby as well. The
- 29:50Speaker 2: next year, 2019. Got pretty lucky because where was Max
- 29:55Speaker 2: Crosby drafted?
- 29:58Speaker 4: Well, he was like a what? Four fifth-rounders?
- 30:02Speaker 3: I don't know, but the team he currently plays for,
- 30:04Speaker 3: they don't want him. They made that abundantly clear, and
- 30:06Speaker 3: now they got him.
- 30:08Speaker 5: Well, he was a fourth-round pick out of Eastern Michigan.
- 30:13Speaker 5: So they got pretty dang lucky with Max Crosby.
- 30:16Speaker 3: All right, so what's your point?
- 30:19Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying... Maybe the Raiders didn't know that. Look,
- 30:22Speaker 2: they suck anyway.
- 30:22Speaker 4: Look, man, when you draft somebody that high, you hope
- 30:28Speaker 4: they become a Hall of Famer. When they do become
- 30:30Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer and say, I would like to
- 30:31Speaker 4: be paid like a Hall of Famer, you can't say no.
- 30:33Speaker 3: That's not how this works. Again, this ownership is paying
- 30:37Speaker 3: the richest contract in NHL history, this ownership group. And
- 30:41Speaker 3: in a few months, they're going to pay the richest
- 30:42Speaker 3: contract in NBA history. It's going to happen with Joker, too.
- 30:46Speaker 7: Why?
- 30:47Speaker 3: Why? Because they're Hall of Famers. Isn't that what you want?
- 30:51Speaker 3: Isn't that the goal? To get the best players?
- 30:54Speaker 2: Yeah. And they also just.
- 30:56Speaker 3: You hope to surround them with enough talent to make
- 30:59Speaker 3: it worthwhile.
- 31:00Speaker 2: That is correct.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Think about this.
- 31:01Speaker 2: But these are... It just boggles my mind.
- 31:05Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes' contract comes up. His rookie contract. And he goes,
- 31:10Speaker 4: I would like half a billion dollars.
- 31:11Speaker 2: And they said.
- 31:12Speaker 4: And the Raiders go.
- 31:13Speaker 7: No!
- 31:14Speaker 10: Of course that would never happen. They gave him half
- 31:17Speaker 10: a billion dollars.
- 31:18Speaker 2: When Mahomes signed that contract, the Chiefs were like, absolutely, sure.
- 31:24Speaker 4: You know what they're probably thinking? Is that it?
- 31:27Speaker 2: Is that it? We dodged it?
- 31:28Speaker 5: Because now look at the way things have gone. They
- 31:31Speaker 5: always end up looking better down the road.
- 31:32Speaker 2: They do.
- 31:33Speaker 3: I think what people also misinterpret is just how valuable
- 31:36Speaker 3: these guys are to their respective franchises. Not only from
- 31:39Speaker 3: a talent perspective, but from a money-making perspective.
- 31:43Speaker 5: When you have a superstar player, I mean, do you
- 31:46Speaker 5: know how many Kael McCarr jerseys have been sold?
- 31:48Speaker 3: Hey, Moshe, not only Kael and Nate, Kael and Nate,
- 31:53Speaker 3: Kael and... What would the Nuggets be without Nikola Jokic?
- 31:57Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
- 31:58Speaker 3: Do you understand how valuable that is to a franchise?
- 32:01Speaker 4: A team that picks in the lottery every year.
- 32:03Speaker 3: Do you understand the value that is to a franchise?
- 32:05Speaker 2: To have a worldwide.
- 32:09Speaker 3: Recognition....
- 32:11Speaker 2: That's what you have with the Denver Nuggets. Vic, what
- 32:13Speaker 2: did you say that you saw in the Nuggets jersey?
- 32:16Speaker 2: Who was that? They were in Europe someplace, and somebody's
- 32:19Speaker 2: wearing Nuggets gear.
- 32:21Speaker 3: Someone gave me a free Vespa rental because they found
- 32:23Speaker 3: out I worked in Denver with the Nuggets.
- 32:24Speaker 2: You're kidding.
- 32:25Speaker 3: I'm not kidding.
- 32:26Speaker 2: In Sorrento.
- 32:27Speaker 3: Free rental.
- 32:29Speaker 2: Where was I?
- 32:30Speaker 3: You weren't there. I was in Sorrento, and I got
- 32:32Speaker 3: a free Vespa for a day. And I gave the
- 32:36Speaker 3: kid a Nugget shirt in exchange.
- 32:37Speaker 4: Think of the value that Nikoli Jokic brought him.
- 32:40Speaker 3: Look at the value he brought me.
- 32:42Speaker 2: Vic's getting free... I got a free hog. He's got
- 32:45Speaker 2: a free hog for a day.
- 32:46Speaker 3: A free hog.
- 32:47Speaker 4: Did your dad spear that hog? I'm always comping hogs.
- 32:52Speaker 2: 303-504-0925.
- 32:52Speaker 5: So it's a worldwide thing with Nikola Jokic. I'm sure
- 32:58Speaker 5: in some instances, when you're talking about European hockey fans,
- 33:02Speaker 5: it's Makar and McKinnon as well that, yes.
- 33:05Speaker 2: It's worldwide.
- 33:06Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, next. Oh, by the way, stories
- 33:08Speaker 4: around sports and the world we feel like you should.
- 33:10Speaker 2: Be aware of. Oh, by the way. You want to
- 33:14Speaker 2: start out or you want me to start out? I apologize. Well,
- 33:16Speaker 2: let me start out. I was going to say he's back.
- 33:20Speaker 2: You know who's back? Cole Trickle is back. The... Oh, okay.
- 33:30Speaker 4: I have no idea what this is.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Well, Tom Cruise played a guy named Cole Trickle in
- 33:34Speaker 2: Days of Thunder.
- 33:35Speaker 4: You know what?
- 33:35Speaker 2: Days of Thunder Part 2 is coming out in the
- 33:38Speaker 2: summer of 2028. And you know who it stars as
- 33:41Speaker 2: the female lead?
- 33:42Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw it's Hathaway.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Yeah, what's her face?
- 33:45Speaker 4: All right, let me say something right now. Shame on
- 33:48Speaker 4: all of us. And shame on you, Tom Cruise. How
- 33:54Speaker 4: about this?
- 33:55Speaker 3: What?
- 33:55Speaker 4: How about he just makes a movie that's not just
- 33:58Speaker 4: a money-printing nostalgia thing? Oh, let me just do Top
- 34:01Speaker 4: Gun again. Or let me just do Days of Thunder again.
- 34:03Speaker 4: Or let me just make another Mission Impossible. How about
- 34:05Speaker 4: you make an actual movie?
- 34:07Speaker 2: How about you do that? Well, Top Gun Maverick was
- 34:09Speaker 2: pretty kick-ass.
- 34:12Speaker 7: What.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Give me what I like. I like race cars and stuff.
- 34:17Speaker 2: And speed, man.
- 34:18Speaker 4: Oh, it's another Jurassic Park. Oh, it's another comic book movie.
- 34:21Speaker 10: We'll fix it right here.
- 34:22Speaker 2: This is all people do.
- 34:23Speaker 4: This is all they do now. They don't want to
- 34:25Speaker 4: take chances on movies. They don't want to make movies
- 34:28Speaker 4: that won't make a bleep ton of money. So they
- 34:30Speaker 4: just make the same old things you've already seen over
- 34:33Speaker 4: and over again. Driving me nuts. People are actually excited
- 34:37Speaker 4: about a Days of Thunder sequel 40 years later.
- 34:41Speaker 2: You know it's going to be killer. You know it is.
- 34:44Speaker 2: You don't think it's going to be cool?
- 34:45Speaker 3: No.
- 34:46Speaker 4: I think it's going to be lame. They're just trying
- 34:51Speaker 4: to grab your money. They don't care about keeping you entertained.
- 34:55Speaker 4: They just want your wallet.
- 34:56Speaker 2: You know what?
- 34:56Speaker 5: I'm sorry I even brought it up. All this whining
- 34:59Speaker 5: and complaining. I'm sorry I even brought it up.
- 35:01Speaker 4: Am I wrong?
- 35:02Speaker 2: Am I wrong here? 100%.
- 35:04Speaker 4: Make an original movie.
- 35:06Speaker 10: Have an original thought, Hollywood.
- 35:10Speaker 3: My turn. The Colorado Rockies... I think they've lost nine
- 35:15Speaker 3: in a row at home. It's a long spell. They've
- 35:20Speaker 3: got 25 games left on the schedule. They have to
- 35:24Speaker 3: win 11 of those 25. They have to go 11-14
- 35:29Speaker 3: to avoid a fourth straight 100-loss season.
- 35:34Speaker 2: Thank God for the Angels and the A's. So the
- 35:37Speaker 2: whole point.
- 35:38Speaker 3: This year was to avoid 100 losses, right? Everybody was
- 35:40Speaker 3: talking about, hey, that's a big deal. Does it really matter?
- 35:46Speaker 4: It matters to me. It does to you? It matters
- 35:48Speaker 4: to me. It does?
- 35:50Speaker 2: Yes.
- 35:50Speaker 3: So if they don't go 11 and 14 or better,
- 35:53Speaker 3: like if they lose 99 versus 100, what's the difference?
- 35:59Speaker 4: Vic, in reality, your point is true. It doesn't really matter,
- 36:05Speaker 4: but it kind of matters to me.
- 36:07Speaker 2: Psychologically.
- 36:07Speaker 4: How about this, Vic? Does it matter if you, for
- 36:10Speaker 4: a football team that's been struggling for years, okay? Is
- 36:15Speaker 4: there a big difference between going 8-9 and 9-8 if
- 36:18Speaker 4: both of them are missing the playoffs? Not really. But
- 36:21Speaker 4: it does when you can say we had an above
- 36:23Speaker 4: 500 seed. There's something to that. Saying we didn't lose
- 36:26Speaker 4: 100 games again, I think there's something to that.
- 36:30Speaker 2: Hey, when the A's get to Vegas, when is that?
- 36:31Speaker 2: A couple years?
- 36:32Speaker 5: I think they just put part of the roof on.
- 36:35Speaker 5: Are they going to spend more money on that team?
- 36:37Speaker 5: Or what are they going to do with that team?
- 36:38Speaker 5: Because the A's stink. A's are not good. Angels have
- 36:43Speaker 5: no excuse, except that they play in a frigging parking lot.
- 36:46Speaker 5: It's a joke of a stadium. And the Rocks are
- 36:49Speaker 5: bringing up the rear, too. Thank God the Angels have
- 36:52Speaker 5: lost seven in a row because now they're tied with
- 36:54Speaker 5: the Rockies as the worst team in baseball.
- 36:57Speaker 3: You might want to put a pause on baseball for
- 36:59Speaker 3: a few months here.
- 37:00Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's going to go away anyway.
- 37:03Speaker 4: By the way, I'm glad that some textures out there
- 37:05Speaker 4: still have a brain. Thank you very much for backing
- 37:07Speaker 4: me up.
- 37:07Speaker 2: I don't like race cars.
- 37:08Speaker 3: I got a great idea.
- 37:09Speaker 4: I don't want to see race cars. You know what
- 37:11Speaker 4: movie I'm pumped is coming out here soon, Moshe? Fast
- 37:13Speaker 4: and the Furious 20.
- 37:14Speaker 10: I can't wait.
- 37:15Speaker 3: See, but you're talking to Moshe who lives in that
- 37:18Speaker 3: 80s era. And if there's a remake of him in
- 37:21Speaker 3: the 80s, what are you looking for? Vision Quest 2 now? Hey,
- 37:24Speaker 3: Breakfast Club 6.
- 37:26Speaker 2: What else do you want?
- 37:27Speaker 11: One of our texters, Josh, has your back. He says, yeah,
- 37:30Speaker 11: you know, when I first saw the Odyssey back in 1678,
- 37:33Speaker 11: I thought there never needed to be a money-grabbing remake.
- 37:37Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, after Scotty Scheffler's come-from-behind victory yesterday
- 37:43Speaker 4: at the Tour Championship, he is now after what? What happened?
- 37:48Speaker 3: I don't know what it is about Scotty. I'm trying
- 37:50Speaker 3: to like. I mean, I admire Scottie. I respect Scottie.
- 37:54Speaker 3: I appreciate Scottie. But, you know, him throwing his hat
- 37:57Speaker 3: on the camera afterwards, I don't know if you guys watched.
- 38:00Speaker 3: He wins. He goes to sign his scorecard. The camera's
- 38:03Speaker 3: in there, and he gets all, like, uppity, and he
- 38:05Speaker 3: puts his– I don't know. He just– I'm not anti-Scottie,
- 38:10Speaker 3: but put it this way. I wasn't rooting for Scottie yesterday.
- 38:13Speaker 3: I don't know who you were rooting for. It wasn't
- 38:16Speaker 3: Scottie Scheffler.
- 38:18Speaker 4: I like Scottie. I wouldn't say it was like.
- 38:21Speaker 3: I don't dislike him. I wasn't rooting. Just because you're
- 38:24Speaker 3: not rooting for a guy doesn't mean you're disliking him.
- 38:26Speaker 3: That's fine. I would have preferred other guys win the tournament.
- 38:30Speaker 2: I love this guy. I absolutely adore you, Brett.
- 38:32Speaker 3: Okay, what do you think? What are your thoughts on Scottie?
- 38:35Speaker 2: You like Scottie Scheffler and you hate race cars. You
- 38:37Speaker 2: are not a normal human being.
- 38:39Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on Scottie Scheffler?
- 38:40Speaker 5: Meh.
- 38:41Speaker 2: I'm over Scottie Scheffler.
- 38:42Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm there too.
- 38:42Speaker 4: You kind of liked him from the beginning.
- 38:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm there too.
- 38:44Speaker 4: Which is also weird.
- 38:45Speaker 5: Well, I never really liked him, and then I could
- 38:49Speaker 5: admit that I admire his ability.
- 38:50Speaker 2: He's a robot.
- 38:51Speaker 4: That's fine.
- 38:52Speaker 2: He's a robot.
- 38:53Speaker 4: The point of this is he won $ 10 million.
- 38:55Speaker 3: He's got no personality. That's true.
- 38:57Speaker 4: He won $ 10 million for winning that tournament yesterday, which
- 39:01Speaker 4: takes him to $ 130 million in career earnings, which is
- 39:07Speaker 4: more than Tiger ever made. He's now become the most
- 39:11Speaker 4: career-earning golfer in history.
- 39:14Speaker 3: Heiger made more money than Sam Snead.
- 39:15Speaker 2: Just say it. Golf player. Say it.
- 39:18Speaker 3: I dare you to.
- 39:21Speaker 4: Here's another.
- 39:21Speaker 2: Oh, by the way.
- 39:23Speaker 4: So Virginia and NC State were playing. I don't know
- 39:26Speaker 4: if you guys saw what the ref had on his head.
- 39:28Speaker 4: Did you guys see this? They have now. a camera
- 39:30Speaker 4: on the hat of the referee in some of these
- 39:32Speaker 4: games where you get like that POV of the ref watching.
- 39:36Speaker 4: And I got to tell you, it's got, it's impossible
- 39:39Speaker 4: to play quarterback. If you see one of those angles
- 39:42Speaker 4: from where the quarterback sits, you're just like, how is it?
- 39:45Speaker 4: How do you do that job? You'd have to be
- 39:49Speaker 4: panicked the entire time. You take a snap, you're engulfed
- 39:52Speaker 4: by 300-pound people.
- 39:54Speaker 10: And nobody's open. Nobody is ever open.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Doesn't that make you wonder how these guys see what
- 40:00Speaker 2: they see?
- 40:01Speaker 7: Yes.
- 40:02Speaker 5: On some of these scene passes, Vic, over the top,
- 40:04Speaker 5: and I'm going, how does he see through the, no offense,
- 40:09Speaker 5: or no pun, the sea of people in.
- 40:10Speaker 2: Front of him? It's crazy.
- 40:12Speaker 4: By the way, one of you guys said he had,
- 40:14Speaker 4: was that your Rockies thing, the 100 loss thing? Because
- 40:16Speaker 4: I got another Rockies.
- 40:17Speaker 2: Thing for you.
- 40:17Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my thing.
- 40:19Speaker 4: Hey, let's all be adults here. If Cole Carrick wants
- 40:23Speaker 4: to flip off a Braves fan, he can flip off
- 40:25Speaker 4: a Braves fan without getting suspended for a game or whatever.
- 40:28Speaker 10: Well, first of all, he's a fiery player. Let him
- 40:30Speaker 10: play fiery.
- 40:32Speaker 3: He got suspended by his own manager because it was
- 40:35Speaker 3: caught on camera.
- 40:36Speaker 4: And it wasn't suspended.
- 40:37Speaker 3: They just sat him for a game. And by the way,
- 40:39Speaker 3: he wasn't. He got back in the game. I think
- 40:42Speaker 3: he pinch hit.
- 40:44Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, because he's good.
- 40:46Speaker 2: I know as a pro athlete, you're always supposed to
- 40:48Speaker 2: keep your cool, right?
- 40:49Speaker 4: Now, let me tell you something right now. If somebody's
- 40:51Speaker 4: wearing you out in the outfield, and trust me, I
- 40:53Speaker 4: told you guys this story when I went to the
- 40:55Speaker 4: Diamondbacks game a few years ago for a bachelor party.
- 40:58Speaker 4: We were wearing those guys out in the outfield. We
- 41:00Speaker 4: deserve to be flipped off. And if he did it,
- 41:03Speaker 4: I'd be like, good for you. You had every right.
- 41:05Speaker 4: You had every right to do that. You don't get
- 41:07Speaker 4: carte blanche as a fan to say whatever you want
- 41:09Speaker 4: to a player and then be offended by a finger
- 41:12Speaker 4: coming your way.
- 41:12Speaker 3: It was caught on camera. That's why.
- 41:14Speaker 2: So what? I'm just telling you, I'm not offended one bit,
- 41:18Speaker 2: but that's why.
- 41:19Speaker 4: If he went full Jackie Moon and said the S
- 41:22Speaker 4: and the C, I think that's totally fair.
- 41:24Speaker 2: You can't say that, Jackie.
- 41:25Speaker 5: Yeah, there are some fans I think that just deserve
- 41:28Speaker 5: to be flipped off.
- 41:29Speaker 3: What are the S and the C? I can't remember
- 41:31Speaker 3: from the movie. Tell me later.
- 41:32Speaker 4: You told me to S-C.
- 41:36Speaker 11: While you're down there, would you mind f * *
- 41:37Speaker 11: * ing me?
- 41:38Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
- 41:39Speaker 7: Oh, okay.
- 41:40Speaker 2: Yes. Put it together, Vic.
- 41:42Speaker 3: Come on.
- 41:42Speaker 4: Context clues.
- 41:43Speaker 8: Come on.
- 41:43Speaker 3: Come on.
- 41:43Speaker 4: Come on. Come on.
- 41:44Speaker 3: I'm not filthy like you are.
- 41:46Speaker 4: Did you guys see that Will Levis got cut? So
- 41:49Speaker 4: he's the old, I mean, he was what? Like a
- 41:52Speaker 4: 34th overall pick, right?
- 41:54Speaker 2: King of the mayonnaise.
- 41:56Speaker 4: We knew he was gone the second they drafted Cam Ward.
- 41:59Speaker 4: He got hurt last year. I don't know what's up
- 42:03Speaker 4: with the rest of his career, but let me ask
- 42:04Speaker 4: you a question. Your life's on the line. You've got
- 42:06Speaker 4: to win a football game. Do you take Will Levis
- 42:09Speaker 4: or J.J. McCarthy to do it?
- 42:10Speaker 3: Will Levis.
- 42:11Speaker 1: Neither.
- 42:13Speaker 4: Well, then you're dead.
- 42:14Speaker 2: I'll take Will Levis.
- 42:17Speaker 4: And you're probably dead, too.
- 42:19Speaker 2: Yeah. We're all dead.
- 42:20Speaker 3: By the way, you remember Sean Payton going off on
- 42:22Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz, who made that comment regarding Bo Nix and
- 42:25Speaker 3: then got community noted on X? So Jeff Schwartz responded
- 42:30Speaker 3: to it. He was asked by his co-host, Sean Payton,
- 42:33Speaker 3: implying that you're a lazy sportscaster. What do you think?
- 42:36Speaker 3: And here's what Schwartz said. Yeah, look, obviously I misspoke
- 42:39Speaker 3: when it came to what I meant to say about
- 42:41Speaker 3: the passing, which is what he does, throw the ball deep.
- 42:44Speaker 3: It's just not very accurate or very good. I know
- 42:46Speaker 3: people will point to, oh, he has the most touchdowns,
- 42:48Speaker 3: 20-plus air yards, but he's 25th on targets in the
- 42:52Speaker 3: NFL on passes over 20 yards. The comment I made
- 42:56Speaker 3: was about two things. One is that he's only 20%
- 42:58Speaker 3: of his passes completed the line of scrimmage. He's talking
- 43:01Speaker 3: about percentages now. I'm lost. I've lost myself.
- 43:04Speaker 2: Go outside, nerd.
- 43:06Speaker 3: Jeff, you didn't misspeak.
- 43:08Speaker 4: You just didn't know. And just say, you know what?
- 43:10Speaker 3: I got got.
- 43:12Speaker 2: It happens. Quit throwing more stats out.
- 43:15Speaker 3: Your retort to stats is more stats.
- 43:18Speaker 4: We still had, well, we did. No, we still have it.
- 43:21Speaker 8: With those two presented to me, I would say step back.
- 43:24Speaker 8: But I do think he just is what he is
- 43:25Speaker 8: at this point. He looks like the same quarterback he
- 43:27Speaker 8: was in college. I watched every one of his snaps
- 43:28Speaker 8: at Oregon. He looks exactly the same guy in Denver.
- 43:32Speaker 8: He's consistent, right? He's not going to make mistakes, as
- 43:35Speaker 8: Coach said. But he's not going to push the ball
- 43:36Speaker 8: down the field all that often, right?
- 43:39Speaker 4: You didn't say he was inaccurate. You said he doesn't
- 43:42Speaker 4: do it.
- 43:42Speaker 2: You're just wrong.
- 43:43Speaker 4: Just say you're wrong. Last thing, real quick. Did you
- 43:46Speaker 4: guys see that UNLV had an Elvis impersonator run out
- 43:50Speaker 4: to the field with them?
- 43:51Speaker 2: I did not see that. I saw that.
- 43:53Speaker 4: Here's what you can't do.
- 43:54Speaker 3: That was cool.
- 43:55Speaker 4: You can't have an Elvis impersonator run on the field
- 43:58Speaker 4: with you for your opening game and then lose to Memphis,
- 44:03Speaker 4: which is also a pretty big Elvis thing.
- 44:05Speaker 3: Wow.
- 44:06Speaker 4: Can't do it.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Well, you know where Elvis was born, don't you?
- 44:09Speaker 4: Graceland.
- 44:10Speaker 2: Tupelo, Mississippi.
- 44:12Speaker 4: Why would I know that?
- 44:13Speaker 3: Everybody knows that.
- 44:15Speaker 2: I knew that.
- 44:16Speaker 5: It's pretty common knowledge, and I know nothing about music.
- 44:18Speaker 5: Knowing what the First Amendment is, it's pretty much the same.
- 44:20Speaker 3: Is that right?
- 44:23Speaker 2: Pretty much, yeah. That's a civics thing. He moved to Memphis, obviously,
- 44:26Speaker 2: built Graceland and all that kind of thing, but yeah.
- 44:29Speaker 4: And I guess he loved Days of Thunder.
- 44:32Speaker 2: He's all shook up.
- 44:34Speaker 4: All right. Oh, by the way, every day, 8.45, back
- 44:37Speaker 4: at this.
- 44:38Speaker 2: All shook up.