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- 0:00This is The Catholic Current with Father Robert
- 0:03McTague. I don't see a lot of heroes in
- 0:08this story, and I see a lot of people who can't wait
- 0:12for the next round of beat up the church. Am I just too
- 0:16jaundiced and cranky today? Well, it's possible to be jaundiced and
- 0:20cranky and correct, so both of them— alas,
- 0:24your mileage may vary, but that's been my experience. Uh,
- 0:27yeah, there's, there's no one on the side of the church
- 0:31as far as the government's concerned.
- 0:34Praise be Jesus Christ. This is Father Robert McTeague of the Society of
- 0:38Jesus, your daily host for The Catholic Current, where we bring Christ to the world
- 0:41and the world to Christ. You're listening to us from the Station of the Cross
- 0:43Studios, your local radio station, the iCatholic Radio mobile app, and we proclaim
- 0:47the fullness of truth with clarity and charity. As always, let's start
- 0:51with prayer. In the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Almighty God,
- 0:55through the intercession of Saint Ignatius Loyola, we ask that you pour forth your Holy
- 0:58Spirit upon us, a spirit of discernment that might hear your voice and
- 1:02obey your command. In the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
- 1:05Amen. Well, friends, if you looked at the schedule for the Catholic Current
- 1:08earlier, you were expecting a guest,
- 1:12but human nature being what it is, and we live in a fallen
- 1:16world, and someone said, if you want to make God laugh, tell him your
- 1:20plans, or life is what happens while you're making other plans,
- 1:23uh, the guest couldn't make it. And our
- 1:27go-to guy for, hey, our guest canceled, can you step up? He wasn't
- 1:31able to do it, so you have to settle for me.
- 1:34I'm gonna tell you a story. When I first started the Catholic Current way back
- 1:38in the day, it was live. Oh my goodness,
- 1:42I used to be over 6 feet tall and didn't have gray hair, and then
- 1:45I did live radio for a year and a half and look at me now.
- 1:48Well, anyways, um, we're going to interview a priest
- 1:53who is an academic and a religious, and he had this great book about a
- 1:55saint and the producer is calling him,
- 1:59and not Mr. Engineer, someone from way back in the day,
- 2:03and oh my goodness, it turns out Father forgot he
- 2:07had a class that he was walking into, and I said to
- 2:11the engineer-producer guy, well, I guess we'll just have to do a rerun. He goes,
- 2:14no, Father, the clock has started, the music's playing, you got a hot mic.
- 2:18And then I had an hour to kill, so I said,
- 2:21hey, we have an unadvertised special on aisle 12 of of the Catholic
- 2:26Current. I'm going to talk about life, the universe, and everything for 12 minutes,
- 2:29and then we want to hear from you. We give a call-in number. And then
- 2:32I started texting all my friends saying, you owe me money, you better call this
- 2:35number, or if our friendship ever meant anything to you, you will call
- 2:40this number. And somehow we soldiered on. And so here I am now.
- 2:43It's just me. Thank you, Jesus. Uh, the mic is hot, but we're not live.
- 2:48And I decided we're going to call this episode Father McTague Sounds
- 2:52Off. Now, you know When I have a guest, I'm very focused
- 2:55on the guest. And even when I do the Friday
- 2:59show of Let's Talk About This, I focus on
- 3:03the topic and I try to leave myself out of the equation.
- 3:07I play my cards close to my vest. So I decided to
- 3:12tip my hand a little bit more, speak a little bit more personally.
- 3:16Now, I remember when I was talking about doing the Friday shows,
- 3:19Let's Talk About This, some of my friends in the media business said, no,
- 3:22no, Father, you don't understand. No one can be interesting nonstop
- 3:26for an hour. And I talked to some friends of mine, they said, well,
- 3:29they obviously haven't had you in a class for 75 or 90 minutes. So it's
- 3:33just going to be you and me for an hour, and I think we can
- 3:35keep each other's attention. I want to show my age by making a reference
- 3:40to Dennis Miller. Dennis Miller was on Saturday Night
- 3:45Live back in the day. Mr. Engineer, can you check and see when Dennis Miller
- 3:48was on Saturday Night Live and then when he hosted his, his talk show?
- 3:52Now, when he hosted a talk show, get this, he would give homework to
- 3:56the audience in advance. He'd say, tomorrow I'm gonna talk about X, Y,
- 3:59and Z. Read this. And what I really liked best was when he would
- 4:03do his monologue, and he would set up the monologue, and then the
- 4:07lights would dim and a spotlight would go on him, and he'd say, I don't
- 4:11wanna go off on a rant here, and then he would go off on a
- 4:14rant. So I'm kinda gonna go off on a rant on a few things,
- 4:18and I'm also going to invoke another comic who— I'm really
- 4:23showing my age now, 'cause he was popular when I was a kid, and his
- 4:26name was Alan King. And every year he would
- 4:30do a show called Alan King's Final Warning. And you know,
- 4:33folks, now that I, I've gotten older, I seem to be doing a lot of
- 4:37that these days. You know, August 29th, the Feast of the Beheading of John the
- 4:40Baptist, was my birthday. I turned 65.
- 4:43Thank you for your well-wishing. I had a wonderful day. A large
- 4:47number of the faithful remnant, we got together and we did
- 4:51guy stuff, and it was, it was very good.
- 4:54And, um, I see that I'm starting to connect the dots
- 4:58more. Oh, like this note from Mr. Engineer. He was a
- 5:02host on Saturday Night Live from '85 to '91, and he hosted his own
- 5:06show, a talk show, from 2007 to 2015.
- 5:10So it was back in the day now. All right, that having been said,
- 5:14I'm starting to see how things fit.
- 5:18And I want to throw you in a couple other images. One I may have
- 5:21used before. You know, writing is very, very important to
- 5:25me. I'm on the verge of sending 2 book manuscripts out
- 5:28to the publisher, so of course life, the universe, and everything conspires
- 5:32against me. And then I have another book in my head
- 5:36and some other writing things in mind. My point is this: here's how I
- 5:40see myself. I am scribbling messages furiously
- 5:45and stuffing them into bottles and tossing them out onto
- 5:49the tides of time. In the hopes that someday somebody
- 5:54will find them and use them to help rebuild
- 5:58civilization. And that puts me in mind of the late Cardinal George,
- 6:02or the Archdiocese of Chicago. There's a famous quote,
- 6:05and they don't, uh, give the full quote. He says,
- 6:09regard— as speaking as a status as Archbishop of Chicago,
- 6:13he said, I expect to die in my bed. I expect
- 6:16my successor will die in prison, and I expect that his successor
- 6:22will die in the arena. And they end there,
- 6:26but he goes on to say, and that one's successor will
- 6:30help rebuild civilization from the rubble, because historically that's what the
- 6:34Church does. Now, whether or not your imagination is sparked when he says, my successor
- 6:38will die in prison, that means Cardinal Cupich might be looking at a jail cell.
- 6:42But that's what Cardinal George said, and, and not
- 6:46me, so don't attribute that to me. God bless Cardinal Cupich.
- 6:50So that, that's the image of throwing messages out into the bottle, on a bottle,
- 6:54putting them out on the tides of time. And I'm more convinced this
- 6:58is the right thing to do because if you remember a week or so ago,
- 7:01I said I found a short story by E.M. Forster that pretty
- 7:05much predicted the internet and how dysfunctional life would be thanks to social media.
- 7:10It was published in 1909. But I also want to add
- 7:14in a German author who had a very complicated history. His name
- 7:18was Ernst Jünger. A World War I vet, fought in World War II,
- 7:22lived to be 103. And when he was writing in the
- 7:26'30s and things were really falling apart aggressively in the '30s,
- 7:30he said, even as I write this, I see the flames licking
- 7:34the page. And my consolation with, uh,
- 7:38the reception of my writing, and candidly with all
- 7:41of you here at The Catholic Current, is people seem to
- 7:45be listening. People seem to be taking it seriously. People keep asking
- 7:50me for more, so I show up every day.
- 7:53And that's so different from— I think it was a short
- 7:57story, an essay that the Danish philosopher Søren Kierkegaard
- 8:02wrote. By the way, if you don't know anything about Kierkegaard, he makes me look
- 8:06giddy happy. I'm Rainbow Brite compared to
- 8:10Kierkegaard. And Kierkegaard tells a story of an
- 8:14actor waiting to go out on stage to play his role, and the stage
- 8:18manager runs up to him and says, the building's on
- 8:22fire. Go tell the audience to leave
- 8:26the theater. And he does that. He interrupts the play to say, the building is
- 8:29on fire. Please exit. And people laugh and clap because they think
- 8:34it's part of the performance. They think it's part of the show. So,
- 8:37uh, you don't do that. You seem to take seriously what I
- 8:41say, and I'm really grateful for that. And honestly, I'm,
- 8:44I'm concerned for souls. You know,
- 8:48part of what spurs and feeds— I don't
- 8:53know what the right metaphor is— of my melancholy, my sorrow, my grief is
- 8:57that, uh, there are a lot of Catholics who were poorly formed
- 9:03and informed and at least apparently are not transformed.
- 9:06And I worry about their salvation. Now make no mistake,
- 9:10I work out my own salvation, as Saint Paul said, in fear and trembling.
- 9:14But I worry about their salvation. I worry about the people who are
- 9:18told by Catholics who should know better that you don't need to
- 9:21worry about becoming Catholic, just, you know, you do you.
- 9:25I think of the people who seem to be really
- 9:29comfortable with the merest,
- 9:32thinnest, most lukewarm living of
- 9:36Catholic discipleship, as if that is going
- 9:40to sustain them in the trials that are coming.
- 9:44And as if that will be sufficient to gain
- 9:48the happiness of heaven. Apparently they've never heard of narrow gates,
- 9:53and they've never heard of carrying crosses, and they've
- 9:57never heard of being hated by the world.
- 10:01So what I want to do for the rest of this hour is, um,
- 10:04start pulling some alarms and pointing towards
- 10:08exits and really pointing towards a way forwards.
- 10:12I want to connect the dots. I'm— as you can imagine, I've got lots
- 10:17and lots of opinions, and I'm going to opine
- 10:21pretty much as things come to me. You know, even when we do the Friday
- 10:25show, Let's Talk About This, I'm focusing on one topic.
- 10:29And some people said, Father, I'd love to have access to your inner monologue.
- 10:33And I said, well, you need to sign a non-disclosure agreement, and you
- 10:36also have to promise not to sue me because my inner
- 10:40monologue has been known to give people screaming nightmares. But as I said,
- 10:44guests have canceled and substitutes couldn't be found,
- 10:48so it's just you and me, and I'm going to sound off about life,
- 10:52the universe, and everything, and the things that concern me greatly.
- 10:56I hope to inspire you, and maybe, just maybe, I might even make you
- 10:59laugh. Please do stay with us for the rest of the hour. I'm Jesuit Father
- 11:03Robert McTeague, your host here every day of The Catholic Current. Remember, a rallying cry
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- 12:53our Catholic faith. We're doing something different today. This episode
- 12:58is called Father McTague Sounds Off. Why are we doing it this way?
- 13:02Well, because unfortunately a scheduled guest had to cancel. That had
- 13:05to cancel in Dublin, unfortunately. Uh, folks we usually
- 13:09turn to to fill out the last minute couldn't make it, so it's just you
- 13:12and me. And rather than focusing on just one topic
- 13:16as I do on my solo show on Fridays, I'm just speaking off the cuff,
- 13:20the, the things that are on my mind these days. I am sounding
- 13:24off. You know, I describe myself on the air as a dark, brooding, melancholic Irishman
- 13:29with an apocalyptic imagination. And one of the reasons
- 13:33I describe myself that way is because I think I see
- 13:37things pretty clearly, and I'm at a point now,
- 13:41I guess I'm getting older, I seem to be doing that a lot more these
- 13:43days. I now qualify for senior citizens discounts, yay me.
- 13:48I find that we're not learning our
- 13:51lessons. We seem to
- 13:55be acting as if there's nothing to be learned from
- 14:00history. Let me give you an illustration.
- 14:03Recently, It was the feast day of Saint
- 14:07Peter Claver, a heroic
- 14:11Jesuit from Spain, worked in Latin America during the
- 14:15slave trade, and he was known as the Apostle to,
- 14:19to the Slaves. Now ordinarily, I'm very
- 14:22glad to preach about my brother Jesuits.
- 14:26It gives me inspiration, it gives me aspiration, and it makes me want to go
- 14:30to confession when I realize how holy they were and I am not.
- 14:34And somehow we all wear the same uniform. But something
- 14:37about Peter Claver hit me extra
- 14:40hard this year, and I'm pleased to say that I have
- 14:44the audio for that sermon. Mr. Engineer, would you run that sermon for us now,
- 14:47please? I find it difficult to preach about Saint Peter
- 14:52Claver. Why is that, you might ask? He's a fellow Jesuit.
- 14:55Yes, he is. Very great zeal for souls. Yes, and Indeed,
- 15:00heroic in his generosity in the corporal and spiritual works
- 15:05of mercy. What's not to like?
- 15:08What's not to like is the context in which he served.
- 15:13He was the apostle to the slaves.
- 15:17And the legacy and nobility of St. Peter Claver
- 15:20of the Society of Jesus remind us
- 15:23of that stain on human honor.
- 15:29That we take our fellow man, our fellow man made in the image and
- 15:33likeness of God, who has a dignity and
- 15:37a destiny unimaginably elevated because of the Incarnation,
- 15:41and we say, you, you, and you, we're going to treat like
- 15:45property. We're going to buy and sell you
- 15:49like an animal. Use you as an instrument until you're no
- 15:54longer serviceable and then discard you.
- 15:58And if for any reason I choose to kill you, I will without consequence.
- 16:04And so to be honoring the Apostle to the Slaves reminds us of that horrible
- 16:09stain on human history that chattel slavery
- 16:12was practiced everywhere and in every age.
- 16:16By every group and nation. And we might take some
- 16:20consolation and say, well, yes, Father, but it was the
- 16:25Western nations of the Christian West who
- 16:30spilt blood and treasure to bring the
- 16:33international slave trade to an end.
- 16:38And now we don't need St. Peter Clavers anymore.
- 16:42But I'm sorry to say that's not true.
- 16:45We do need another St. Peter Claver. In fact, we need many more.
- 16:50As I speak, at this very moment,
- 16:53there are open-air slave markets in Libya where another
- 16:57human being can be bought and sold for $400.
- 17:02Now, it's not enough to say that because that's— Libya's
- 17:07far away. And Libya is not the
- 17:10only place where human beings are treated like chattel.
- 17:15Recent federal records show that in the past several years,
- 17:19hundreds of thousands of unaccompanied minors—
- 17:23we would call them children— entered the United States,
- 17:27and then we don't know.
- 17:32We don't know. Know what became of
- 17:36hundreds of thousands of children.
- 17:41No one knows where they are, what happened to them. I'm going to go out
- 17:44on a limb and say that as I speak, they're almost certainly not being
- 17:48homeschooled.
- 17:51Who will be the apostle to those children?
- 17:56But it's not enough to say that because we can imagine a child,
- 18:00you know, yay big, with a name and a face and hair
- 18:05and eyes and fingers and toes.
- 18:09But children are still being bought and sold
- 18:13and discarded and murdered. As I speak, there are at
- 18:17least a million of our fellow human beings with bodies
- 18:21and souls made in image and likeness of God, whose dignity has been elevated
- 18:25by the incarnation And they are in a frozen limbo in
- 18:29a Petri dish. Over a million,
- 18:34probably closer to 2, and a non-trivial percentage
- 18:38of them, 5 to 20%, are simply abandoned.
- 18:43No one claims them. No one says these
- 18:47are mine, as St. Peter Claver
- 18:50could. But the trouble with thinking about that is
- 18:55we can locate them.
- 18:58In this vat of liquid nitrogen here are the children.
- 19:03But what about the children who will never be
- 19:07seen, never remembered, never registered?
- 19:13For at least the past 10 years, the leading
- 19:17cause of death isn't war or democide
- 19:21by government or cancer or starvation.
- 19:27It's abortion. By far,
- 19:30by far, by far. Who will
- 19:34be the apostle for vulnerable children
- 19:40who are casually, thoughtlessly murdered?
- 19:44For profit. We live in
- 19:48very sad times. And I
- 19:51fear we may have to face Peter Claver and his companions and say,
- 19:56we didn't learn our lesson from you. We let it happen
- 20:01again and again in unimaginably horrible ways that
- 20:04you could never have dreamed of. We didn't learn our
- 20:08lesson. So we need,
- 20:12with a firm purpose of amendment, with a spirit of reparation
- 20:17properly understood, with a spirit of penance,
- 20:20we need to raise up more Peter Clavers
- 20:24so this litany of horror need not be repeated again.
- 20:29And through his intercession and the intercession of those heroic souls who worked
- 20:33with him, We need to recall that yes, indeed,
- 20:37God is merciful, but God is
- 20:40also just.
- 20:44And we are running out of time and into eternity.
- 20:47So I think it's providential that the reading we hear from St. Paul to
- 20:51the Corinthians, I tell you, brothers, the time
- 20:55is running out. From now
- 20:58on, let those who have wives act as not having them. Those weeping
- 21:03as not weeping, those rejoicing as not rejoicing,
- 21:06those buying as not owning, those using
- 21:09the world as not using it fully.
- 21:13For the world in its present form is passing
- 21:18away. May God's holy name be praised now
- 21:22and forever. That was my sermon on the Feast
- 21:27of Saint Peter Claver. And it was hard to preach.
- 21:31By the way, the scriptural reference there is from 1 Corinthians 7,
- 21:37last few verses there. It was
- 21:40hard to preach because it seems to me we
- 21:45live in a world that has not benefited from the
- 21:49good example of Saint Peter Claver. I have to be careful
- 21:53never to turn a sermon into an editorial, and not
- 21:58turn a pulpit into a blog. But one of the things that I thought about
- 22:02as I was preparing for that sermon was to ask, where are the new
- 22:06Peter Clavers going to come from?
- 22:09Those who will say, let's secure our borders so that
- 22:13children won't be trafficked. Let's help
- 22:16form a culture of life so that aborting
- 22:20our children will be unthinkable.
- 22:23Let's agree that the desire to have a child is not a medical
- 22:27condition, and we shouldn't be making children in
- 22:30the lab and abandoning the ones we don't like.
- 22:34Who will be the Peter Clavers that we need
- 22:38now? Will it be those who talk very much about
- 22:42social justice but also don't
- 22:46talk about contraception abortion,
- 22:50the definition of man and woman, the definition of marriage?
- 22:54Will it be those who will gladly talk about slavery
- 22:58in the past but not slavery in the present?
- 23:02Will it be those who talk about how we and the religion of peace worship
- 23:06the one God? Will it be the Catholic hierarchy
- 23:11who said that he never felt such warmth and fellowship as he did
- 23:15in a newly opened mosque, a mosque opened in his archdiocese
- 23:19where he himself is closing churches and
- 23:24forbidding the Latin Mass. Will he ask
- 23:27his new friends what they think about,
- 23:31I don't know, child marriage? What's the
- 23:35minimum age for a girl to be given in marriage?
- 23:38Will he ask them about genital mutilation of
- 23:41prepubescent girls? I don't think
- 23:45Peter Claver is going to come from the people who fall silent
- 23:50before both the understanders and the misunderstanders of
- 23:53the religion of peace. As I think about where the next generation
- 23:57of Peter Clavers is going to come from, I think of a gentleman
- 24:01I met who had worked behind the scenes at kind of the
- 24:05home office, if you will, of a very large body of
- 24:09senior Catholic cadres, of the people who should really know Better Club.
- 24:13And he said this to me, I'll never forget. He said, Father, you have to
- 24:16understand, there is a lot of money
- 24:21to be made processing people who come across the southern
- 24:25border. There is no money to
- 24:29be made in fighting abortion.
- 24:34You know, friends, the basic principle of organizational psychology is the
- 24:38purpose of a system is what it does. And it seems to me
- 24:43some of these ecclesial systems I'm observing, their primary purpose
- 24:47is to keep the bureaucracy alive,
- 24:51and you need money for that. And when Uncle Sam gets good
- 24:55and liquored up, he gets really generous with his checkbook.
- 24:59That's the world we live in, and the people who profit from that dynamic are
- 25:04not likely to produce very many Peter Clavers.
- 25:08I'm Jesuit Father Robert McTeague, your host here every day of The Catholic Current.
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- 26:53my guest for today canceled. My backup people couldn't make it,
- 26:56so it's just you and me. We're calling this episode Father McTague
- 27:00Sounds Off. If you think this was the stuff of nightmares and we should never
- 27:03do this again, please let us know. And then if you think, yeah, this is
- 27:07a good idea, you know, Fridays are nice, Father's talking about one topic, but here
- 27:11it's just kind of Father's grab bag, um,
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- 27:18Years ago, I was getting ready for my final vows way back
- 27:22in 2010, a couple, 2, 3 lifetimes ago. People were talking about reserving a website
- 27:27for me called The Cranky Jesuit, and I could have daily
- 27:30updates on why I'm cranky today. So today,
- 27:34on why I'm cranky today, I'm cranky because— and
- 27:37so I thought we might have, uh, have a go at that.
- 27:40What are some of the things that are making me cranky today. So just
- 27:45a random bit of headlines here. Pro-abortion protesters
- 27:49disrupt Catholic Mass at Westminster Cathedral in London,
- 27:52England. About 9,000 people
- 27:57had gathered for a pro-life march in London. They had a Mass there
- 28:00at the cathedral. It's a beautiful cathedral. They had 15
- 28:04bishops there, and a bunch of people
- 28:07disrupted the Mass. And someone
- 28:11said, imagine hating us this much simply because we believe babies deserve
- 28:16to live. Speaking of deserve to live,
- 28:20I have to say something about the Lindsay Clancy trial.
- 28:24I mean, this is, this is a tragedy, and I've been modest about what
- 28:28I've said about it because I don't want to appear to be piling on.
- 28:30But, you know, there was a hung jury, there was a mistrial,
- 28:34and some of the jurors are speaking out now,
- 28:38and, you know, for a criminal trial, you have to have a unanimous
- 28:42jury, and the government has to convict, you know, beyond a reasonable
- 28:45doubt, or the person has to walk.
- 28:49One juror said, oh, we were lobbying for acquittal
- 28:53on day one, and then one
- 28:57woman complaining about the one man who was a holdout— this
- 29:01is an exact quote, this is from her own lips— so
- 29:04everyone else voted to acquit. This one guy said, no, she's guilty. She definitely
- 29:08strangled her kids. She said this: He had
- 29:12the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously
- 29:15killed her children. End quote. So yeah,
- 29:18that's another reason why I'm cranky today, but oh wait,
- 29:22there is more. In the Diocese of
- 29:26Erfurt in Germany, of course, the Catholic
- 29:31church called St. Severi, they had an
- 29:34ecumenical rainbow service inside the church.
- 29:38Pride flags, rainbows, drag queens
- 29:42stood in the sanctuary in the presence of the Blessed
- 29:46Sacrament, and then they all marched out to join
- 29:50a pride festival and parade. And then the
- 29:55next day they had Mass. Didn't, you know,
- 29:58do anything to, I don't know, exorcise the church
- 30:01or reconsecrate it or make a reparation They
- 30:05had turned a church where the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is
- 30:09offered, wherein the Blessed Sacrament resides, and had
- 30:13what I think is an abomination. You know,
- 30:17what does one say to that? Where do
- 30:20we go from here?
- 30:24Lindsay Clancy's supporters are threatening the father
- 30:27of the children she murdered, what with him, you know, being a
- 30:31man, and all that. That's pretty much the level of discourse. Speaking of murder,
- 30:35as you listen to this, it'll be the first anniversary of the murder of Charlie
- 30:39Kirk. Now, I didn't listen to Charlie Kirk a lot. I'm just
- 30:43busy. I thought he was pretty moderate
- 30:48in what he had to say. He said obviously true things like men are men
- 30:51and women are women and, you know, don't kill your kids.
- 30:55Well, Georgetown University is, at least it
- 31:00was the case as of yesterday, is planning a Charlie Kirk lookalike
- 31:05contest on campus.
- 31:08Now, I noticed they're not trying to recreate what Charlie
- 31:12Kirk did. They're not reading his speeches. They're not having a
- 31:16marathon of his YouTube videos. They're having a
- 31:20Charlie Kirk lookalike contest. Is that to honor the fact
- 31:24that a young man who spoke on behalf of the unborn,
- 31:27among other things, who was married and dad to a couple of
- 31:31young children, was murdered publicly in the presence of his family?
- 31:35I don't know. I don't know how that works.
- 31:39And my goodness, I could go on and on. You know, we're getting ready for
- 31:44the 25th anniversary of 9/11.
- 31:47You know, if you're old enough, you remember remember where you were.
- 31:52I was at the University of Scranton, a Jesuit school in Northeast Pennsylvania.
- 31:56I'd slept in late that morning because I wasn't teaching, and I know that later
- 31:59in the day we were supposed to have an outdoor barbecue, and it was canceled.
- 32:02They said, in light of recent events. What are those
- 32:06recent events? Ran to the newspaper, wasn't there yet. Turned on the television,
- 32:10and then I saw the horror of it all.
- 32:14I know that A lot of the kids in the area are from the New
- 32:18York area. A lot of them had— your kids were from New Jersey and Philadelphia
- 32:21whose family commuted into New York City for work. A lot of them worked
- 32:25in the Twin Towers. They were distraught. They wanted to go home.
- 32:29They couldn't leave. It was, it was a lot of drama. And,
- 32:32you know, some of the Jesuits stayed up with the kids for 24, 36 hours
- 32:36trying to hold them, hold it all together. It was, it was horrifying.
- 32:40It was traumatic. I never want to go through something like that again. You know,
- 32:43I grew up in Newark, New Jersey, and when I was 12,
- 32:46thereabouts, we moved to Belleville, a little town next to New Jersey.
- 32:50And my parents' house was on a hill, and if you walked to the corner
- 32:54and you turned to the left, you would go down the hill to high
- 32:58school, which I finally called— which I fondly called Pagan Prep.
- 33:01But if you turned to the right, you'd see the Twin Towers. I mean,
- 33:04I was that close to Manhattan. And the first time I went to
- 33:09see my parents after the collapse of the towers, and I looked
- 33:13to the skyline and, and there was nothing there. It was
- 33:16just empty sky. It was
- 33:20like looking up to the sky and not seeing the sun, looking up
- 33:24to the night sky on a full moon and not seeing the moon.
- 33:28It's like looking out the window and seeing that the mountain is gone. It was
- 33:31just there, larger than life, and then one day it
- 33:35wasn't. And I read a lot of
- 33:38things, a lot of things about what happened
- 33:43and who may have been responsible and the aftermath and the War on
- 33:47Terror and all that. And I will simply say that
- 33:50at the time, I believed a lot of what I
- 33:54was told. And with 25 years of
- 33:57hindsight and reading other things and listening and viewing other
- 34:02things, I don't hold with the same conviction
- 34:06what I held 25 years ago. What I
- 34:10do know is that life is very uncertain.
- 34:15We live in a world of tragedy, a world of
- 34:19violence, a world where there's
- 34:23not just conspiracy theories, but there are real conspiracies.
- 34:27There are real conspiracies. People plot to
- 34:31do horrible things to one another. That is beyond dispute.
- 34:35And here I want to take a deep breath and think back to something
- 34:38that C.S. Lewis had written. I think it was in The Screwtape
- 34:42Letters, which, as you know, was published in World War II. And he said,
- 34:45people keep bandying about the phrase real life, and, you know,
- 34:48and real life is German bombers in
- 34:52the sky and houses being destroyed
- 34:56and blood being splattered on the wall.
- 35:00And he said, no, no, real life is also birthday
- 35:05parties and birth and
- 35:09marriage and love. And a good friend of mine,
- 35:13faithful man, really solid Christian, great friend
- 35:17in the Lord to me for many years, he sent me something the other day,
- 35:19and it was a quote from C.S. Lewis from an essay he wrote in 1948.
- 35:24And I think he gets it right. So what's happening in 1948? Well,
- 35:28we've gone from being allies with the Soviet Union and Joseph
- 35:33Stalin, the totalitarian mass murderer whom President
- 35:37Roosevelt fondly referred to as Uncle Joe.
- 35:40And so now the Soviet Union is the bad guy. The Cold War is perking
- 35:44up. Somehow the Soviet Union
- 35:47got plans for the atomic bomb, and now we're talking about what will
- 35:52nuclear war look like, etc., etc. And people were getting themselves in a tizzy.
- 35:55So in 1948, C.S. Lewis wrote this. He said, the first
- 36:00action to be taken is to pull ourselves together. If we're all going
- 36:03to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb, when it comes,
- 36:08find us doing sensible and human things: praying,
- 36:13working, teaching, reading, listening to music,
- 36:16bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends
- 36:20over a pint and a game of darts. Not huddled
- 36:24together like frightened sheep and thinking about
- 36:28bombs. So says C.S. Lewis. So the world has gone mad.
- 36:33You know, the American— what,
- 36:36military action, war, something something with
- 36:41Iran since February is on again, off again, on again, off again.
- 36:45Uh, the Straits of Hormuz are open and closed, open and closed, open and closed.
- 36:49Young Ukrainians and Russians are still killing each other,
- 36:53apparently with no end in sight.
- 36:56People who we hated in Syria are now our besties.
- 37:02And it's kind of like 1984, but the 21st century version.
- 37:07You know, you've got how many thousands of flock cameras following
- 37:11our every move out of doors? Yes, it is It is
- 37:15absolutely insane and dystopian. And yet,
- 37:18you know, my younger sister, my most favorite person in the whole
- 37:22world, visited me for the Labor Day weekend. And we had
- 37:25Mass on Sunday with a very beautiful community.
- 37:30And my sister said, if this is what your Sundays are like,
- 37:34you are the most blessed man on the planet. So for all the madness,
- 37:39for all the mayhem, for the murder, for all the stupidity
- 37:44the pig-headed ignorant stupidity of the people
- 37:48who should really know better club, and especially the senior Catholic cadres of
- 37:53the people who should know better club. In the face of all that,
- 37:56I say Christ is King. He has
- 38:00not yielded his sovereignty to anything or
- 38:04anyone. I proclaim before God and man that
- 38:09Jesus of Nazareth, Son of God and Son of Mary, the Word
- 38:13made flesh, Our crucified and risen
- 38:16King is reigning now.
- 38:20He is merciful and he is just, and he will return
- 38:25to judge the living and the dead and the world by fire.
- 38:28And I want my eternity to begin well. Indeed, I want everyone's
- 38:32eternity to begin well. So I, raging introvert that I
- 38:36am, I just want to be with my books and my fountain pens and the
- 38:39Blessed Sacrament and just to scribble and publish and be left alone.
- 38:43I show up to a microphone every day, and sometimes, God save
- 38:47us, even a camera, because I want to proclaim Christ
- 38:52crucified, risen, reigning, and returning.
- 38:56And I'll have more to say about that in the next segment. I'm Jesuit Father
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- 40:21Be Jesus Christ. This is Father Robert McTaggart of the Society of Jesus, your daily
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- 40:28to Christ. You're listening to us from the Station of the Cross Studios, your local
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- 40:35of truth with clarity and charity. Here we are, the last segment
- 40:39of, uh, Thursday, and it's just me. What happened?
- 40:42Well, our regularly scheduled guest had to cancel.
- 40:45The people we go to usually for emergency guest services they
- 40:49couldn't make it because life happens sometimes. So it's just been me sounding
- 40:54off. So last 10 minutes, what do we want to talk about? Well,
- 40:57as I said, uh, as I get older, I see that I'm starting to
- 41:01piece things together. I, you know,
- 41:05I've had a to-be-read list that is mountains
- 41:08and mountains and miles and miles tall for, for decades and
- 41:11decades. The growing list now is the things I want to reread. The things
- 41:16I want to look at again with older and mature eyes.
- 41:20Things that I read in a hurry once for school, I want to
- 41:23read again at leisure and with a lifetime
- 41:27experience in tow. You know, a couple weeks ago I turned
- 41:3065. That's kind of sobering.
- 41:34I want to give some advice about that. I was visiting with my family
- 41:37in June when my sister's oldest girl graduated from high
- 41:41school, and I was sitting outside at the fire bowl with my brother-in-law. He's a
- 41:44great man, a real St. Joseph superstar as a husband and father.
- 41:48And we're talking about getting older and he's, you know, in his early 50s.
- 41:52And he said to me, well, I, I know what 50-year-old me
- 41:56thinks of 45-year-old me.
- 41:59What will 60-year-old me think of 50-year-old
- 42:04me? And I said, well, I don't want to spoil the surprise,
- 42:07but you're probably not gonna like it.
- 42:11Um, I spent a lot of my 60s— I'm halfway
- 42:14through my 60s— I spent a lot of it saying,
- 42:18what was I thinking? So I found
- 42:22an article that I published, you know, way, way back when I turned 60,
- 42:27and this is before I qualified for senior citizens discounts,
- 42:32and I just had little comments on the decades,
- 42:36and I want to share some of that with you. I wrote that when I
- 42:39was turning 10, I decided that I wasn't a child,
- 42:43uh, anymore. And to prove that
- 42:47I wasn't a child, I bequeathed my entire Matchbox
- 42:51car collection to a younger cousin. And that was my first experience
- 42:55of Stoicism. And I try not to think about how much they would have
- 42:59been worth if I kept on to them all those years. And turning
- 43:0320 I felt cheated. I said,
- 43:07you know, just when I thought I figured out this teenager thing, it goes away.
- 43:12And my enthusiasm for the adult world,
- 43:15such as it is, along with my confidence in being able to live as an
- 43:19adult, were, were incomplete. There was a lot of adult stuff
- 43:23that just didn't do it for me.
- 43:27And then I turned 30, and I accepted that my membership
- 43:31in the adult world was undeniable. Uh, the responsibilities of
- 43:35adult life were obvious to me, the benefits slightly less so,
- 43:39and possibilities still seemed plentiful. I was seeking
- 43:43definition in my life, and I saw definition in
- 43:46terms of freedom rather than restriction. I wanted
- 43:51freedom for good things, and the
- 43:56price of freedom is discipline. And then
- 44:01the tempo of aging began to increase out of nowhere.
- 44:05I turned 40, and I realized that being an adult,
- 44:08barring some unforeseen incident, would probably take a long
- 44:12time. Now, even by 40, I'd been around long enough
- 44:16to acquire some really profound regrets
- 44:20and failures, and I was haunted
- 44:24by ghosts of missed opportunities. And I said, well, there's still time,
- 44:28told myself then. To do better.
- 44:32And then I turned 50.
- 44:3550 arrived with a thud. I said, you know,
- 44:39if I'm really going to be middle— if this is really my midlife, I gotta
- 44:43live to be at least 100. Uh, my mentor Paul
- 44:47Weiss, God rest his soul, lived to be 101, taught until he
- 44:52was 90s and well into his 90s, writing books to the day he
- 44:56died. So if I match his cycle, then, you know,
- 44:5950 was midlife for me.
- 45:03But time seemed to be more behind me
- 45:07rather than ahead of me. And I said, have it— you know,
- 45:11I mean, I don't think people were talking about bucket lists back then,
- 45:14but achievements, accomplishments,
- 45:17aspirations, things that I could point to You
- 45:22know, I think back, so 19— so 2011,
- 45:26I turned 50. I think of my best friend Mark
- 45:30Maciag, who died violently while I stood on in horror and looked
- 45:35in 1983. And I've had all those years that he didn't have.
- 45:39What did I do with them? I'm not impressed.
- 45:43And my spiritual director urged me to count
- 45:47my blessings and and surrender to God who
- 45:50was with me in all of my highs, which were very high,
- 45:53and all of my lows, some of which were very low.
- 45:57And I think that's good advice regardless of one's age. And then 5
- 46:01years ago, I turned 60,
- 46:05and I said, you know, my, my health is, is pretty good.
- 46:09Um, never had major surgery, not on any medications,
- 46:13don't have hearing aids or prescription glasses or a walker or
- 46:17anything like that. And I think of Psalm 116:12,
- 46:23what shall I return to the Lord for all his benefits to me?
- 46:27Now, I can't reciprocate with God. God's God
- 46:31and I'm just me. But I do want to be grateful,
- 46:36and I want to prove to God that I'm grateful. So when
- 46:41I turned 60, I published 10 bits of advice which I think
- 46:45are still true today. I'll just say be less tolerant
- 46:49of, of your excuses. That's what I've learned in the past 5 years.
- 46:53So number 1, count your blessings daily, uh, because gratitude
- 46:57is the virtue that's most pleasing to God. Saint Ignatius made that clear.
- 47:02Surrender immediately, if not sooner, the illusion
- 47:06that you can sin safely. Sin is an untamable
- 47:10wild animal, cunning and impossible to
- 47:14satisfy. And friends, now that I'm older, I'll say this:
- 47:18sin's just so boring.
- 47:21It promises so much, and it show— always
- 47:25shows up a day late and a dollar short. Pray daily and
- 47:30pray always. Get to Mass when you must and get
- 47:34to Mass at every other opportunity. Pray the
- 47:37rosary daily. Take Fatima seriously.
- 47:42Number 4, go to confession frequently. Learn to live as a loved
- 47:46sinner. Go at least twice
- 47:50a month just for basic spiritual hygiene.
- 47:53Number 5, do all you can to please our Blessed Mother. Daily rosary,
- 47:57her scapular, Miraculous Medal, 5 First Saturdays.
- 48:01Uh, number 6, learn the rules of discernment from Saint Ignatius Loyola,
- 48:05commit them to memory. Number 7, be quick to forgive
- 48:09and ask for forgiveness. Number 8, allow no room,
- 48:13none, for resentment in your life.
- 48:16Number 9, the greatest enemy of love is selfishness.
- 48:20And number 10, don't waste time. And by
- 48:24that I don't mean have every minute filled and scheduled, but I
- 48:28mean don't dither. Don't act as if life owes
- 48:32you anything or another moment. Life is
- 48:36uncertain, so strive even
- 48:39in your leisure to cultivate all your
- 48:43gifts and to make the most of your opportunities and resources.
- 48:48Friends, I'm grateful for the life I lived. My only regret was that I didn't
- 48:52live it better. Please pray for me so that in God's providence I might die
- 48:56a saint. I'm Jesuit Father Robert McTague, your host every day here at The Catholic
- 49:00Current. You want to join us tomorrow? It's Friday, which means let's talk about this.
- 49:03We're going to be up to part 9 of novel prophecies.
- 49:08I'm going to be talking about a novel that deserves to be known better
- 49:11called Darkness at Noon, written by Arthur
- 49:15Koestler. It became part of the inspiration
- 49:19for George Orwell's 1984. And it deals with the question
- 49:23of what happens if you learn to live within
- 49:27a culture of lies, because that's where I think we are right now.
- 49:31Thanks for putting up with me today in this unusual episode where it's just
- 49:34you and me doing some freestyle speaking. Through the intercession of
- 49:38Our Lady of Mount Carmel, may almighty God bless you, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
- 49:41Go in peace, and please do pray for me, for I am a sinner.