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187: Welcome to Plathville - Wine Helps The Sex Ed Go Down (S6 E8) / Unexpected Season 6 Finale · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Razor Blade. We are here to talk. Welcome to Plaithville
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  Speaker 1: and also to wrap up unexpected.
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about last week's Welcome to Plato? It
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  Speaker 1: was so deeply.
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  Speaker 2: Boring, so boring.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, here's what I want to talk about. Okay, because
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  Speaker 1: it's slowly become very apparent to me over the episodes
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  Speaker 1: as they've been progressing, but especially last week and this week,
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  Speaker 1: just how produced every scene is, yes, just how like
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  Speaker 1: fake it all is. And I am bored and I
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  Speaker 1: am bored with your sex party, honey, I'm bored with
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  Speaker 1: your dumb wigs, which is shocking. I mean, I love
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  Speaker 1: a dumb wi but I'm bored with all these birthday
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  Speaker 1: parties and stupid meetings and it's not authentic.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I don't know what happened because of the divorces,
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  Speaker 2: Like now we have to produce every single scene, kind
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  Speaker 2: of like Sister Wives. But at least with Sister Wives,
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  Speaker 2: there was still the dysfunction and it was still kind
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  Speaker 2: of interesting even though they were doing dumb shit. But
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  Speaker 2: this is like painful.
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  Speaker 1: It's really bad. Like Micah and his girlfriend walking on
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  Speaker 1: the beach, and I want to know more about her,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't want to know about her like this, right,
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  Speaker 1: And I want to know what's going on with Barry
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  Speaker 1: and Kim, but not like this. And even in this
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  Speaker 1: week's episode with Mariah meeting her weird rando friend to
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  Speaker 1: have a cinnamon bun and talk about this mystery man
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  Speaker 1: that nobody's actually really talking about though, it's like there's
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  Speaker 1: all these potential storylines that are in fact really interesting
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  Speaker 1: and that we could really get into. And I say
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  Speaker 1: it every week, Honnye, the dui, the adultery, all of it,
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  Speaker 1: Like we could be talking about this in a very
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  Speaker 1: real way, and I think that would make for riveting television,
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  Speaker 1: but instead we have this produced shit, and honestly, to me,
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  Speaker 1: it's the death knell of this program. Like if you
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  Speaker 1: keep doing this production, nobody's going to want to.
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  Speaker 2: Watch oh, not at all. But then you have a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of people online that are like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: I only watched the show for Olivia, like her stories
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  Speaker 2: are so interesting, and I'm like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where all of that because I look
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  Speaker 1: at the things that TLC posts on the show, and
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  Speaker 1: it's like comment after comment saying why is Olivia on
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  Speaker 1: this show? What is Olivia bringing to this show? Why
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  Speaker 1: does she want to be on this show? So it
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  Speaker 1: seems like a lot of people are objecting to her
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  Speaker 1: being there, But then you go up on the reddits, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people. Okay, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people who want her there a lot for.
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  Speaker 2: A reason, and like all of her storylines are also
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  Speaker 2: fake and produced and boring, like all of these producer
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  Speaker 2: planted friends, Like it's not just Olivia's, it's Mariah's, it's Micah's.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, who are these people?
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  Speaker 2: I don't care about them?
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  Speaker 1: And at the sex party, we have recycled producer plants
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  Speaker 1: from when Micah was in La. It's the same boring
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  Speaker 1: ass weird people, but now they're at Olivia's sex party.
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  Speaker 1: I know, this is so dumb.
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  Speaker 2: It was super dumb this week and last week.
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  Speaker 1: What makes Olivia interesting is her deconstruction of her former fundamentalism,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's an interesting story, and I think she tries
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  Speaker 1: to get at it, but in my opinion, she does
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  Speaker 1: it in sort of an ass backwards way, because she
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  Speaker 1: seems really intent on always just blaming the plaths for everything,
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to talking about her inner world and what
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  Speaker 1: brought her here and kind of getting into the meat
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  Speaker 1: of the matter. It's all this superficial, petty bullshit, Like
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  Speaker 1: she's constantly jabbing at Ethan without coming out and saying
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  Speaker 1: Ethan didn't know how to fuck.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, she's definitely saying that, but she's been
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  Speaker 2: saying that on Instagram too.
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  Speaker 1: Just say that. It's much more interesting if you sit
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  Speaker 1: and face the camera and you talk about your sex
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  Speaker 1: life with Ethan. That would make riveting television. And Ethan
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  Speaker 1: talk about Olivia, like get into it, like you shared
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  Speaker 1: all of these years of your marriage, almost your entire marriage,
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  Speaker 1: with all of us, and we watched it and we
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  Speaker 1: had to sus a lot of it out with our
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  Speaker 1: raccoon monocles. Yea, but talk to us like we've been
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  Speaker 1: here on the journey with you. Don't make bullshit up
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  Speaker 1: and then feed it to us every week. I'm getting tired.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I'm getting tired of it too. And Olivia is lying,
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  Speaker 2: she's changing her story and she's rewriting history. In this episode,
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  Speaker 2: she's talking about like how she's always wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: on the farm, she's always wanted to live on a
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  Speaker 2: farm life, but didn't want to tell anything because she's
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  Speaker 2: scared about that, which is a bunch of bullshit, because
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  Speaker 2: for five seasons we've been seeing her say, I want
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  Speaker 2: to live somewhere out of a small town. I want
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  Speaker 2: to live in a big city. I want to live somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Fun travel, I want to globe trot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, like that's a lie talking about how she
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  Speaker 2: didn't know anything about sex when she said in like
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  Speaker 2: season one and two she was given Ethan blowjobs in
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  Speaker 2: the car and the church parking lot, Like, come.
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  Speaker 1: On, right, and we're not dumb kind of blaming Ethan
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  Speaker 1: for their bad sex life when you were both in
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  Speaker 1: that sex life or both in the fundamentalist contributing equally Olivia.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean the way she talks about it is
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  Speaker 1: she wanted to try different things and maybe Ethan wasn't
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  Speaker 1: super into doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but like, let's just talk about that more, right, Let's.
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  Speaker 1: Have more conversations about that. I just really don't like
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  Speaker 1: the road that this show is going down, Like I
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  Speaker 1: think if they continue along this vein, we are probably
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  Speaker 1: not going to have another season. Yeah, like for what
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  Speaker 1: and for why?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but or it's just going to turn
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  Speaker 2: into the Olivia Show, which I don't want to watch no,
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  Speaker 2: because it feels like TLC is just putting a lot
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  Speaker 2: of Olivia. Like this whole episode this week was like
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  Speaker 2: half Olivia, and I'm like, I don't care. I literally
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  Speaker 2: don't care unless we get to see your new weird
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  Speaker 2: boyfriend who's kind of dinky looking in my opinion, but
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  Speaker 2: like we're not seeing that. We're just seeing you go
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  Speaker 2: to sex parties and speed dating next week and allude.
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  Speaker 1: To a relationship with somebody long distance, like not actually
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  Speaker 1: talking about the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I really really hate that me too, so as I
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  Speaker 1: understand it, though there are only two more episodes, What
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  Speaker 1: next Week and then the week that Sister Wives launches
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  Speaker 1: that's supposed to be their finale. I could be wrong,
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  Speaker 1: but I think there's only two more episodes, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what have we done? I mean, yeah, we got into
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of the divorce between Ethan and Olivia,
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  Speaker 1: and I was I was riveted, me too, But we
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  Speaker 1: didn't get into enough between Barry and Kim.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all.
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  Speaker 1: We're not talking about the division of assets. We're not
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  Speaker 1: talking about like where are the kids going and how
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  Speaker 1: that's working, Like, we didn't get into any of that,
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  Speaker 1: and we're almost done with the season. I'm disappointed being.
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  Speaker 2: I'm disappointed too well. And then if I have to
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  Speaker 2: hear Mariah plug her album or her song like one
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  Speaker 2: more time, I'm gonna throw something at my TV. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the only reason she's talking about this
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  Speaker 1: mystery guy is so that she can reference her upcoming album.
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  Speaker 2: It is nobody cares about your stupid music video, But
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna have to hear her sing next episode, okay, guaranteed.
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  Speaker 2: I also feel like the stuff with Micah and his girlfriend,
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  Speaker 2: like how he keeps saying like I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna if I'm making the right choice or if
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  Speaker 2: we're in love, blah blah blah. I feel like it's
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  Speaker 2: setting up for like end of season proposal or something
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  Speaker 2: crazy like that.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't do it, I mean please, the red flags
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  Speaker 1: are flagging.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they are a weird couple.
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  Speaker 1: They are so strange.
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  Speaker 2: You want to just talk about it, Yeah, let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about it about the beginning of the episode, which let's
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  Speaker 2: get the beach yep, with her wearing a whole ass
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  Speaker 2: dress and makeup.
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  Speaker 1: A full beaded face, hair done the beach. I don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: And the last time we were here and we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about the show, I'm like, there's just something that's
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  Speaker 1: not connecting from me here. There's something that's just off.
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  Speaker 1: And as I was watching them at the beach, it
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  Speaker 1: really is like her social awkwardness. She seems deeply self conscious, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and very uncomfortable in front of the camera, so much
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  Speaker 1: so that I feel bad for her because Micah is
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  Speaker 1: such a natural in front of the camera. It's super
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  Speaker 1: easy for him, and she's just floundering.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt bad for her. And this week she
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  Speaker 2: also released an Instagram post with some younger pictures of her,
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  Speaker 2: and she was talking about however, but he's been bullying
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: her and harassing her, and she's like, this is who
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: you're harassing, this young girl, like be nice, spread kindness whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And people in the comments are assuming that the bullying
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  Speaker 2: comments were like about her gender identity and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: So people have been making comments about her appearance and
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  Speaker 2: that possible gender. Cool. Yeah, so I feel bad for her.
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  Speaker 1: Because she feels bad for her too.
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  Speaker 2: Comes on camera and then people just start trashing.
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  Speaker 1: Her, right, and so maybe that's why she was a
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  Speaker 1: little reticent to come on camera. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: if you come on camera, especially on TLC, you are
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  Speaker 1: going to inherit a rabid audience of people with monocles.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be looking into your life. And so
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  Speaker 1: this is kind of what comes along with it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying it's right, but like you ought to expect it.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, people are fucking crazy, Like people are so
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  Speaker 2: much worse than us, though, but we're not leaving comments
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  Speaker 2: and we're not mean no, like some people, like especially
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  Speaker 2: I read it. I'm like, you guys are the worst
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  Speaker 2: people ever heard, like just some of the things that
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: people say. So but again, though, like you said, it's
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  Speaker 2: like I don't know what you expected coming on TV.
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  Speaker 2: You should have just stayed private, yees.
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  Speaker 1: Especially if you have like social awkwardness ye or something
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  Speaker 1: that keeps you from being natural. Because she comes off
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  Speaker 1: so wooden and like she doesn't want to be there.
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  Speaker 1: She is like interpreted by me as being very condescending
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  Speaker 1: to Micah, I'm going to give you a little humility
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  Speaker 1: or like very controlling. I just don't feel good about
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  Speaker 1: this relationship. I'm sure she's a lovely person. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know much about her at all, but just in their interaction,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Micah, you are in danger. Girl, don't do it.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: And the amount of times that Micah brings up navigating
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: relationship conflicts and dealing with arguments and stuff, I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: you guys have not been living with each other that
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: long to be talking about conflict and how much you
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: guys argue, Like why are you arguing so much? Though?
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  Speaker 2: Like that's weird.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you should be in the honeymoon phase of
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  Speaker 1: your relationship, Like the first year is supposed to really
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  Speaker 1: show you the potential of the relationship, and then you
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: get into the nitty gritty you start living with one
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  Speaker 1: another and you kind of peek behind the curtain. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's where they are in the relationship. But I just
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  Speaker 1: feel very worried for him because I think he's got
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: a big heart. I think he has a sense of
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: adventure and exploration, and I think he's getting tied down
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  Speaker 1: in this relationship to someone who has a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of expectations for him that he's really ultimately never going
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  Speaker 1: to be able to fulfill.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, which is going to cause her to nag and
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: browbeat and condescend based on what I'm seeing, that's just
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  Speaker 1: my fake psychic prediction. Yeah, And so I'm very worried.
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  Speaker 1: And he keeps talking about how like I love her,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not ready to get tied down. He keeps
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: implying that he's not ready for marriage. But if he
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: pulls a proposal out girl at the end of the season,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, none of these people have the ability
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  Speaker 1: to learn, none of them.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, That's what I'm thinking is gonna happen. It's either
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  Speaker 2: gonna happen at the end of the season or like
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: after the season's over and he's gonna be like, oh
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: my god, I love her. We got a loafed or
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: some shit like that. I'm calling it right up, my
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: fake psiche prediction, because that's what it feels like, because
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: he's saying all this shit like, oh, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if I'm making the right choice, Like we're in love,
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: it's like a genuine love, but I wouldn't say it's
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  Speaker 2: like full on, like I don't know if I'm ready
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  Speaker 2: to commit, Like he's playing both sides of it, but
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: then you're living with this girl, Like it's so bizarre.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: What it's giving me is I don't have a job.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: What is giving me is like she works really hard
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  Speaker 1: as a real estate agent. She makes money, and I
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: don't have a college education, and I don't have a
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  Speaker 1: future before me, and so I'm just gonna live off
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  Speaker 1: of this professional woman.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what it's giving to me. That makes
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  Speaker 2: sense too, I could totally see that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean he is correct to worry about
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  Speaker 1: his future because if Plaithville goes off the television this
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  Speaker 1: season or next season, like, what are you gonna do
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  Speaker 1: with your life?
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: I think he still models though, right, I don't think
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: he does. Oh he's done with it.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: No, I think he's referenced that this season that he
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: kind of walked away from that, and he wanted to
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: be an actor and he's not doing any of that.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: Well, he's gonna have his fencing business.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's hard work, honey for such a pretty baby,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: I know, but all right, and she'd gonna make you
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: work too. Oh yeah, dig that trench, honey, definitely.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: But they're weird. Then we have, say the least, then
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: we have Olivia and Lydia Grace going to milk cows
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: for some reason.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying in LA a produced scene. Hey,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: what about a scene where you bring your sister in
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  Speaker 1: from Arizona and you guys go milk cows like you
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  Speaker 1: used to? Why? Who wants to see this?
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  Speaker 2: Nobody fucking wants to see this? And I'm having this
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  Speaker 2: weird little competition in front of this random farmer Joe guy,
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  Speaker 2: like he gives a fuck.
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  Speaker 1: Who's probably just a leched and looking at their booties
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  Speaker 1: because they're so beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, oh my god, wow, gorgeous.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they look like a farm that I would
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  Speaker 1: want to go to. It looked like a slaughterhouse farm
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. But I felt very sad for those cows. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but whatever, let's make a scene, let's make some television.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: But then Olivia saying that she wants to be back
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: on a farm and like wants the country life, and
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: then saying throwing Ethan under the bus and being like,
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to tell him that because then he
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: would have trapped me in kro and I would have
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: ended up a handmaiden and I would have had ten
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: kids and been barefoot and pregnant, right, And.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, very melodramatic. Yes, And maybe if you
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: had said something like that to Ethan, he would have
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: been heartened, because I think that's where his heart has
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: always been is in the country. Yes, on a farm.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't believe you. I believe what you were
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  Speaker 1: telling Ethan during the course of your marriage is that
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: you wanted to go to Saint Lucia. I want to
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: go to Paris, I want to go to la I
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: want to travel. I want to have all of these experiences.
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  Speaker 1: And that is what he was trying to accommodate. You
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: never used the farm or country living as a sort
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: of goal for your marriage.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Not at all. And it just pisses me off because
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: she's just going back and forth and like, this is
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: why I'm saying, she's rewriting history and trying to act
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: like that's what she's always wanted, is to be back
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: in the country and she misses that life. I'm like, no,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: you don't. You're running away from it. Like just be
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: real with yourself and real with everybody else, and like
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: real even with Ethan, and be like, I don't love
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: you anymore, man, I want to fuck somebody else. Fair.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's fucking fine, but like this whole back
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: and forth and like she's so lost. That's what I see.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: And I don't want to get mad at that, because
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: we all have our own journey and we're all discovering ourselves,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: especially when you're young in your twenties, Like you don't
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: fucking know what you're doing. I'm still in my twenty
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: high stole on what I'm fucking doing and I'm just
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: kind of do but I'm still figuring shit out. Like
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: this is what I'm trying to se The difference.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Between somebody like you and Olivia is that you admit
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: that you don't know what the fuck you're doing. Yeah,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: and you're not putting on all of these airs of
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: sophistication and illumination and enlightenment exactly, like having all of
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: the answers or putting on a persona of progressiveness without
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: see like, I would much rather you show me who
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you are through your acts and your deeds instead of
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: always constantly telling me who you are and what you
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: believe and what you want, Like, show me and do it,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: and then I will believe it. And so there's a
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: lot of talk coming from Olivia about who she is
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: what she believes. But I mean, when it comes down
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: to brass tacks, honey, some hypocritical energy in the ether
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: that I'm sniffing, yep, just be real, Like, you don't
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: have to have it all together. Of course, you could
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: be a twenty three or twenty five year old woman
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: who doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. That's what
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I was doing when I was twenty five years old.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Don't pretend to have all of your shit together or
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: to have the number of all of these people that
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: have been in your life exactly and to be able
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: to sit in some space of higher vantage point and
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: judge these people. These grown ass adult people like you
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: really don't have the life or world experience to do that,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: So just stop doing that. You can judge them inwardly,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: but stop saying it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's my problem with her. And she's still
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: on Instagram and on TikTok, Like, she just posted a
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: TikTok recently and it was reposted to Instagram where she
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: was talking about some weird dream that she had or
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: that kim Plath had or something like that. Basically, the
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: whole TikTok was a bunch of bullshit. But in the TikTok,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: she said kim Plath groomed her to be Ethan's wife,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: so she was essentially manipulated and groomed to be in
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: this family that she didn't want to be in. It
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: all as if she had no agency at all. And
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: people were like actually calling her out for and being
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: like you were an adult, Like I know you were
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: a part of a cult, but you guys were both
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: part of that. Ethan grew up the same way you did.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Like why don't you take ownership for like your choice
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: in the matter. She's just acting like I don't know
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: a victim.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the word grooming is incendiary.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: It's harsh.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very harsh word. I mean, I think
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the spirit of what she's saying, like that Kim mentored
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: her and guided her into a relationship with her son
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: based on the blueprint that Barry and Kim had for
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: their kids. I think that's probably valid. I'd like to
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: hear more of that. But when you use a term
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: like grooming, than you've lost me. Now you're just trying
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to go you're on your campaign again, Olivia, Ye, trying
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: to malign these people, which I don't think is fair well.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: And then I'm like, where's the accountability for your parents
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: in the matter too, Like they were doing the same thing.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Like if you're saying Kim Plath groomed you, so did
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: your parents, then they groomed you to be a part
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: of this lifestyle, to be a good wife and to
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: be Evan Plath's wife as well. So like, why can't
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: we call both sides out? Why is it just the
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Plaths are such evil? Fucking didn't she.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Make an instagram? I thought you sent me an instagram
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: where she was talking about her fon recently, something about
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: daddy issues, And I actually watched it, and let me
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: just say, I really liked her point because she was
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: objecting to the term daddy issues, and she's like, my
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: father was the one with the issue. My father was
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the one who didn't parent me gently. My father was
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: the one who was abusive, although she didn't say it outright,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: but she wink winked at the camera as if to
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: say her father was abusive, and she's like, so, don't
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: visit my residue from my father on me and call
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: it daddy issues. No, I'm just dealing with this shit
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that was left in the wake of his issues, which
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I support, And I really liked the way she framed that.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So it seemed to me she was calling out her
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: pop and calling out her family a little bit, but
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: in terms of like how much, like she's definitely goes
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: in on the Plaths way more. Yeah, but then again
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: they're the ones with a show.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I guess, But still, like, why aren't we calling out
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: your family though, Like get to the root of your issues,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: which is the fact that you're unhappy with your family,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: which Ethan calls out later in the episodes.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Did he addressed that?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: And that's based Like, that's so true, that's where all
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: of it lies for her. But that's that's what's frustrating
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: for me, is like she just acts like the Plaths
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: are like so terrible and I'm like, they're probably not
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: that bad. I don't know, I mean assume me. I
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: just I don't think that they're as bad as like
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: probably her family. I think her family was worse because
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: in that video on Instagram, she didn't outright like call
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: out her family, but in the comments she said that
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: her dad was like abusive and hit her and her
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: siblings and stuff like that. That was it. It's like
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: a very minor thing that she says, but then talks
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: about kim Plath grooming her, and it's like, Okay, where's
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the balance here.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of that. Well,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: maybe she's not ready yet to deal with those parts
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: of her that have been so deeply wounded by her
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: father and her mother and her childhood. And what Ethan
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: was saying, I think we have said a number of
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: times is that she's using Ethan and she's using the
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Plaths as some sort of an effigy or a symbol
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: upon which she's trying to exorcize all of this stuff
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: out of her being. Yes, she's doing it the wrong way,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: but that's what she's trying to do, which I in
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: tremendous support of she's just doing it in a way
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: that vilifies all these people. Yes, I think Kim and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Barry deserve some of that vilifying personally, because while Ethan
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: grew up the same way as Olivia, Kim didn't. I
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: don't think Barry did. I don't think they grew up
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: in fundamentalism. I think they adopted that at some point
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: when they were adults and then brought their kids into that.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: So they deserve a lot of that blame in my opinion.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Like, what do you mean blame like the.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Well, like the blame that she's pointing in their.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Direction about the religious aspects, about.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: The religious aspect and the way that they might have
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: guided her into this lifestyle, the way that they said
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: she had demons living in her, the way that they
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: judged her, and I'm sure that they did the way
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that they were probably very hard on her in the
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: beginning of that marriage. I believe that. Yeah, And so
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: they deserve to be villified, and she has every right
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to call them out. But it's like, I like your point,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: which is okay, but what about the stuff that is
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: auto generated within you that's causing you to act out
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: in all these other ways that that are going to
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: affect your life, Like, are we truly looking at that
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: as well? Is she in therapy? I know she talks
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: about therapy. I know that there was one season I
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: think three, season three, Yeah, where she wanted Ethan to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: go to therapy because she was going to therapy. But
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if she's still in therapy. I hope that
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: she is, because I think she has a lot that
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: she needs to excavate.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, I agree one hundred percent, and like she's a
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: work in progress. But that's the thing that's frustrating for
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: me is that she, like we've said, like she's just
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: not real about what the real issues are, Like she's
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: quick to blame everyone else, but not like your own family,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: not like these other people that are issues like the problem.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: It's like we said a couple of weeks ago when
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: we were talking about like Ethan her she was saying
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: that Ethan's like homophobic or whatever. I'm like, why don't
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: you call out your brother though too, rit like that
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you had on the season just prior to this, Like
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: he's also a huge raging homophobe, like had it in
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: his Instagram bio he's out.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, yeah, we can into it a
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: few things about Ethan, but he's never outright said the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: things that Nathan has.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Exactly, but you're not calling That's my problem with her
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: is like she's so quick to villainize all of the
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Plaths because they hurt her. That's the issue there, Like
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: you can be hurt and you can talk about your struggles,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: like me as an example, Like I've have problems with
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: my own family, right, but I'm not going to sit
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: there and say that they're horrible, awful people because they're
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: my family still, even though they did terrible things, Like
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but maybe that's just my own perspective,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Like I know, it's probably not the same for everybody.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I really respect that point though, about Nathan, because not
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: only has she not called out her brother, but she
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: platformed him on the show. She brought him up on
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the show. She must have known what his proclivities and
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: his beliefs were, yes, at that time, and then he's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: gone on to tell us all what he actually believes,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and like, you haven't spoken out against it, So why
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: are you so selective in your progressiveness exactly? Seems like
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: a problem, yep, I think.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: And then moving on, we have Ethan and the little
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: girls at the farm. I loved this scene me too,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and I want more of this instead of the sex
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: education we get into later.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: My god checking under the hood girl. I will get
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: there when we get there. So Ethan sits down with
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the three littles, which is Amber, Mercy, and Cassia, and
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: he kind of wants to have a conversation or just
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: at least open the floor for some space around a
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: conversation concerning his divorce from Olivia, like do the girls
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: know and do they have any questions? And so he
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: does that and they don't really have any questions, and
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Amber says something like, well, I really just want to
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: be here for him and listen. And she is so beautiful.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I know all these girls are, but Amber's eyes, I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: know her sapphire blue eyes are my gods, so gorgeous, yes,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and also so compassionate toward her older brother. But it's
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: in this scene that we have Ethan also talking to
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the camera directly about some of the things that happened
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: between him and Olivia.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, he's been reflecting a lot about what
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: things went wrong between them and how he could have
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: fixed things, how he can hopefully fix things and his
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: next relationships and things like that, and then we flash
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: back to last season's infamous comment that he made about
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: how Olivia doesn't cook him through square meals a day
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and how that's the key to a man's heart and
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: women have their place in society and they have their
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: specific roles, and so he's clarifying he never said that. Well,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: he said they do have specific.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Roles, yes, but not in society right right, But because
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: this year he's saying I didn't mean all women exactly,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: so he's not talking about society.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so. Yeah, he's clarifying his comments from
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: last year, saying I don't mean all women should be
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant. Basically, he's just like,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I felt like I was most loved when Olivia was
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: cooking meals for me all the time, because in the
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: first few years of our relationship, she cooked all the time,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and that made me feel really special, made me feel
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: really cared for. And then all of a sudden, she
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: stopped and didn't cook anything for like two years, and
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: he was feeling really resentful because Ethan doesn't know how
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: to fucking communicate or use big boy words, he kind
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: of let it build up until it kind of blew
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: up and exploded on this scene from last year, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: he said it in the wrong way. So he's like,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I deeply regret how I said it, and if I
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: could have said it differently, I would have. So why
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: did you think about this?
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I thought that it was good me too. I thought
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: that it showed that Ethan was recognizing the things that
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: he has done wrong, specifically some of the things that
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: he said that were wrong. I think he was trying
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: to explain how he receives love. Yeah, and I think
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: that's valid me too. Now, when you want to take
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: it down to gender roles and women should be this
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and men should be that, well you'll miss me with that.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: And I don't subscribe to that. But I can see
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: how a guy like Ethan, who is only twenty four
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: or twenty five years old, and who came out of
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: essentially a cult and who only ever saw that demonstrated
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: to him, I can see how that would be one
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: of his beliefs or value systems. Sure, and I need
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: him to deconstruct that because not all women are going
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to do that, and we have a lot of women
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: out here who are wonderful, and they work or they
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: don't want to fucking cook, and a lot of men
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: who cook and such. Yeah, but that's just the noise
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: of what he said. What he was really saying is
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: this is how I received her love, and then all
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of a sudden I wasn't receiving it in the same way.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And we have to look back at the seasons, because
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: there was a lot that was also going on at
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: the time. We've got them going to Joshua's memorial. We
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: have jamaicing me crazy. We have Olivia putting all of
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: these expectations on to Ethan, not the least of which
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: is to change his geography every year and to take
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: certain stances with his family. So he's got all of
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: this bullshit happening in his marriage at the same time
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: as she's withholding now this essential expression of what he
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: perceives to be her love. So that's what he was
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: trying to get to.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: But he's dull, he's dune, and he's emotionally I think
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: he's emotionally intelligent, but he doesn't know how to express it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: He's pretty stunted, And I mean, can you fucking blame him?
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: He grew up in a household where like his parents
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: are also not expressive emotionally at all. I mean, Kim
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: can barely even cry at Joshua's memorial, Like she's so
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: emotionally repressed. And when you grow up in a family
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: like that, like you learn that as a child, So
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: then what do you do with all of these emotions?
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Like they just come out and sometimes the worst ways.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Like I'm in therapy for that reason too, because I
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: grew up with family like that. I don't know how
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: to communicate my needs. Sometimes I don't know how to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: express my emotions in a healthy way. Sometimes sometimes I
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: have to like really fucking think about it. And then
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I saw a college.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Just say something really fast before you get to that.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I want to take that back. I don't think he's
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: emotionally intelligent. Actually, I think he's emotional. I think he
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: feels things very deeply. I don't think he's intelligent about
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: those emotions insofar as he can't separate his emotional pain
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: body from like his thinking self, Like he doesn't have
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the ability that you have to stop hammer time. Okay,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: should I really say that? Maybe I should frame that
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: a little differently, Maybe I should lean on love instead
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: of vitriol right now, Like he doesn't have the capacity
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the intelligence to regulate the emotions. He's got the emotions.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: It's not that he doesn't feel, it's just that he
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't know what to do with them. So I would
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: say that's emotional unintelligence. So I just want to take
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that back. That's my opinion.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I mean that's fair. But like, also from my perspective,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: it took me seven years to learn how to do this,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Like I still struggle with that. I still have things
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: where they're like automatic responses because it's my programming. So
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: like it takes a while to learn how to actually
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: be emotionally intelligent. Yeah, so he's got a long way
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: ahead of him, and if he's not wanting to go
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: to therapy, then it's an even longer way.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: But I read this comment on Reddit that I wanted
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: to bring up about this because I thought this was
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: like Chef's kiss perfectly said, but it came from user
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Majestic Scarcity five point forty weird take from me. But
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Ethan's love language seemed to be acts of service and
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Olivia's seemed to be words of affirmation and quality time.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: But Ethan wasn't good at community communicating, and Olivia showed
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: her love by words and quality time, so neither were
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: having their needs met. Cooking and doing other wifely duties
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: was more than likely considered an act of love to him,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: which I'm sure is how he is from how he
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: was raised, which is why I think that was really
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: hard focus. Towards the end of their relationship, Olivia was
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: constantly focused on talking and spending time with Ethan to
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: understand him, but she failed to see that this would
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: not fill his love meter the way it would fill hers.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Ethan sucked at communicating and would often take off on
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: trips or go on places to do things without telling her,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: so he also failed to see that that wasn't filling
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: her cup either until it was too late. Both failed
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: to see what the other really meant. It wasn't about
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: the cooking or the working on cars. It was about
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: their cups not being filled on either side of the aisle.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh my gosh, so well put.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I thought that was so great.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: That's exactly That's exactly what I'm trying to say. That's
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: his love language. Yes, how he received her love and
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: she's or whoever that is is exactly right. Olivia needed communication.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Olivia needed that quality time. Yeah, you know, every single
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: time you run out to your vehicle and you spend
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: eight hours under the hood and you don't talk to me,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: or you take these trips to go fix a car
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: in kro while I'm over here in Tampa somewhere, and
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I don't hear from you, like you are not giving
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: me love in a way that I can receive. So
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: they were just missing each other two ships in the night.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Be it dressed, oh for sure.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: And I wonder if she didn't like communicate to him
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: why she didn't want to cook anymore either, Like if
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: she was, Look, it's not because I don't love you.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like fucking cooking anymore. I still care
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: about you, like we can still do other things or whatever.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Like I wonder if she even had the capacity to
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: say that, because she's going through her deconstruction phase as well,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: so she's dealing with a lot of emotions and so
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: she's trying to figure it out all at the same
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: time as figuring out their marriage. So they had too
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: much going on.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they didn't have the tools and the resources
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: to know how to navigate their marriage no way here
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: they keep talking about neither of them did.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: No, not at all, So it's really sad. But I
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: thought it was really cool that Ethan showed that level
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: of self reflection after that. I think that's like important.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: A lot of people give Ethan a lot of hate
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: for being a big bit of a dummy, and he
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: is totally, but I think that this is like a
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: good step in a good direction. Yes, just this amount
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: of self reflection. And then he also calls Olivia out
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: for her negativity and said that that a lot of
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: that stemmed from her issues with her family, which is great,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: so true.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they show that picture of Lydia, Grace,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: and Olivia in the family structure with the other children,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: and I think Ethan is hitting on some truths. I
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: wonder what Olivia thinks watching that back, like if she
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: can actually cogitate on that, think about it and receive that,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: because I think he's spot on. But I think because
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: it's coming from Ethan, she probably won't receive that.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Oh No, I think it would trigger her. I think
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: she'd be like, how dare you like call out my family,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Like I'm dealing with that on my own, Like she
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: can't make the connections right now, and that's fine, Like, yeah,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: everybody's figuring their shit out, but I don't think she's
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: making the connections.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't know what's really happening, but
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I have hope for her. And just as Ethan is
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: coming into some awareness about his own behavior and about
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: his beliefs and his values, I think she is too,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: in a legitimate and authentic way. While a lot of
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: what I see from her feels performative and put on, like,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I do think there's a process that's happening beneath the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: surface that is very important and that I think she's undertaking.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And so she's also coming into different awarenesses, just in
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: a different way maybe.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: But it's toxic though. Some the way that she's coming
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: out about it is toxic, and that's like the issues,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: like you have to be able to recognize when you're.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Shit, it is toxic, Beatrice, Like a lot of it
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: is not toxic and is presented with that therapized TikTok speak,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: which none of us like and or believe. And so
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: you were telling me Vio WhatsApp that she just sounds
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: like a lot of these TikTok yes inspo girlies who
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: are just constantly speaking in this way about these types
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: of issues, specifically fundamentalist issues. Yea, So she's coming across
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: a lot like that. But I think even in the
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: midst of that, she's trying to find her way, I hope.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: So.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I think along the way, we put on the clothes
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: of a lot of different types of awareness, that we
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: try it on, and then we take it off and
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: we put something else on. And I think we have
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: to allow her her youth and her process here. And
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: although I think she's gonna cringe when she's forty looking
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: back at some of the things that she's saying and doing,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: as hopefully Ethan will as well, I think that right
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: now where she is, I think she's pretty good. I
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: think she's okay. I think she's okay.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. I just don't want to see her
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: like stuff.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Ever again on my television.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I don't care about you milking cows or learning about sex.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Do you want to just get to that?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just get there.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: So who cares about Mariah and who cares about my gun?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I don't care about Mariah, Well, okay, I do care
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: about it. I just Mariah, you got to give me
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: something more than that tight little bun and your banana
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: blaze their honeymoon Riah. I mean, if you're gonna reference
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: some mysterious ghost of a man, sit down on that
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: chair to that camera and talk to me about it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: If you want me to be interested and invested in
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: your life and want me to continue to want you
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: on my television, then you're gonna have to talk to me,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: not alluding to who this person is, sitting down with
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: some Mirando production plant and talking about it in these
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: like etheric sort of amorphous ways, like talk to us
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: about it or else go away, And all you ever
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: do is cry, girl, you're so fucking morouse. It's so
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you're so maudlin, the tears of a clown bitch. Why
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: do you need to stop? Get out? You should travel,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: just go like Olivia, Go to Saint Lucia, go to Paris,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: go meet some people, eat some different food. Honey, you're
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: bringing me down, I know.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: And can we still? Can we stop talking about this
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: mysterious heartbreak as if we don't know that he cheated
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: on you, like that's what we're referring to, right.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I just want to know if he's married, was he
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: married the entire time, because my god, to be Barry
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: saying that he's the most duplicitest person he's ever met
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: in his life. Like so okay, like Max cheated, but
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that wasn't so groundbreaking that we couldn't believe it. Like
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I could believe that, And if Mariah dated some other
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: guy and he cheated, I could also believe that. But
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: if he's the most duplicitest person that Barry ever met,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: why was he married?
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that'd be so good. Well, allegedly he's
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: supposed to come in one of these seasons episodes.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the final Like that's not supposed.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: To be there, like her concert or something. Oh my god,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Care more though, if you talked more about it, like
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just sick of your I'm sick of your talking heads. Yes,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sick of it.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I mean character that's like acting like they have it altogether.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, you're five years old.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: This girl returned to her religion, like the dog returns
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: to his barf honey, which comes from the Bible. That's
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: a scripture from the Bible. Comes back to the bar
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and is back at the trough and is sucking at
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the teet of religion again and fundamentalism. Now that's interesting
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: for me. Can we talk a little bit more about that.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I saw you get baptized and I cringed
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: with everybody else because we have a conversation. God, we
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: need to produce these shows, we really do. I'm watching
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: currently The Braxtons. Oh yeah, I think on we TV,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: and I've watched every season of The Braxton Family Values,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: and in four episodes, they've had a family grief counseling.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: We've had confrontations in the sisterhood. We've had deep conversations
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: about death and dying and the people left behind. And
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's the happiest type of content, but
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: it feels real. Not not all of it's real. Some
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: of it's not real, but there's enough there that's real
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: that I am interested and I want to continue to watch.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: This is exactly what Plaithfill is losing.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And this is why we love this show
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: is because it was like one of the last shows
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: on TLC pretty much that was like real besides Sister Wives, Like,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: we don't really have a lot of real TLC stuff,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: like we have ninety Day Fiance, but it's like the
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: same shit.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: It's only the first Season's that's good because after that
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: they become aware AI, they become aware of the cameras
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: and now they're producing themselves. Yeah, it's only like the
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: first season of the Other Way or before the ninety Days,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and then it all.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Sucks and then it's trash. Yeah, it's just a bunch
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: of cloud gobblins or the Last Resort, Like we need
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: more of that. God, I cannot wait, Gino, when Jasminder
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: is supposed to be on that I know and I
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: cannot wait. Oh God, we're gonna have to.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the sex party.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Like why I've been avoiding it because I'm just cringing
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: so hard.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Why do we need a sex education workshop when we're
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: all in our twenties, And why are we recycling these dweebs?
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Like can we just explore each other's bodies like God intended,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Like that's the natural way of learning about sex. Why
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: don't we have to have some sex educator with the
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: fucking vulva pillow and dildo's teaching these young kids who
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: don't want to be there.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: No, they're just getting their five hundred dollars a day
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: paycheck from TLC. They're pretending they're friends with Olivia, and
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: we're having these awkward conversations simply to facilitate Olivia saying
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: that she doesn't know about sex and that she has
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: shame around sex and that she wasn't able to talk
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: to Ethan about sex because he didn't want to do
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the things that she wanted to do. And the whole
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: thing is just to give her another opportunity to slam Ethan, yes,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: which she also did on her Instagram by saying he
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: never made her calm, and like nobody needs to know that.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: No, nobody, It is so, And like again I say,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: are we ignoring that Ethan grew up the same fucking
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: way that you did? Like why aren't we talking about
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: how he didn't know anything about sex either? He probably
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: didn't know how to bang you good because he came
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: in one second, because he's a virgin and you got
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: married when you guys were virgins, allegedly even though you
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: guys were blowing each other in the church talking about it,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: like what is it here? You don't know about sex?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Or like you know about some of it? I don't know,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: And like we can have an interesting conversation about purity
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: culture and like how fundamentalist religion I wish them men
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Like that's interesting to me too, but like, again, it's
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: just to shit on Ethan. And did you notice she
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: wanted to do this sex party because this long distance
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: boyfriend that she's talking to says that sex is very
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: important to him, he very much enjoys it, and he's
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: a very experienced lithario, And so she wants to not
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: look stupid and not be embarrassed in front of somebody
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: so experienced. So like, that's what this whole sex thing
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: was about.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: But is that for real or is that just her
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: way to get a message out to Ethan that she's
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: with a real lothario that she's like it's hard to
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: really parse through the things that she says to find
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: out what's true. Yeah, but maybe she did meet a
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: man who is very sexually adventurous and likes to express
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: himself through his sexuality. That's fantastic. And when you find
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: yourself a good lover, honey, it does change your.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Whole world, I'm sure, But.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think she's not a reliable narrator,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: and this whole thing felt like a setup. I didn't
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: enjoy it because I'm in my thirties and I don't
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: need to know about CLITORI I don't need to know
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: about the vulva and how it opens and stuff. I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: don't want to think about those weird dudes in that
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: room looking at the vulva pillow.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: It was so bad, Like why did we have kupchi again?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. He doesn't have a girlfriend. Has he
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: ever seen of all? I don't know.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: They were totally paid actors. Him and the other day.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Of course, I don't know what his name was.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: This is Lydia Grace. What are you doing? She's weird.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: She's weird to me, like her vibes.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Are off because I don't think her and Olivia like
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: each other at all. I don't think their friend. No.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: I think she's getting paid to have her happy ass
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: from Arizona to La to film these weird scenes with
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: wigs and cows and volva pillows.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I don't understand it well. And speaking of Olivia and
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Lydia Grace, Olivia made a huge post on Instagram like
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: just a couple days ago where she revealed the face
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: of her infamous long distance boyfriend and he's.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Well you're a lesbianic you're not attracted to men, So
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: would you really know? I mean, maybe you do. I'm
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: sure lesbians can identify an attractive man.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I can definitely look at a man and be like, oh, yeah,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I can see why women want to fun.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: But this guy, No, you didn't feel it. He didn't
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: see it. Mayonnaise mayonnaise, yeah, bland mayonnaise.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: He looked like a week, like a total Like you're
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: the lothario that she's so strung.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Olivia, you are such a ten for such
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: a knock out of its appearance. Like maybe he's a
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: wonderful person and maybe there's a lot of other complimentary,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: supplemental things that he brings to the table. But Olivia,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: do you know how beautiful you are? Why are you
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: hanging out with dorks?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I don't understand, but I'm being judgy.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: But anyway, so a lot apologt to this. She posts
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: this twenty picture thing right Lydia Grace is not in
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: a single one, and Lydia Grace comments on it and
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: is like, really, so Roy her new boyfriend's name Roy? Okay, okay,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: who names a kid Roy?
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: What's the name of my rumba.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Yea, but she's like Roy makes the cut and I
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: don't wait.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Olivia's boyfriend's name Roy. Yes, Oh, somebody helped me. Ye,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: somebody give me some oxygen.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: This twenty five year old guy is named Roy, and
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: he doesn't look like a like. When I picture a Roy,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I picture like.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: A rugged Yeah.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Man, sure he's in a truck. This guy wan like yeah,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: probably has never picked up a car wrench in his life,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: doesn't know how to do anything.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: No, no offense.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I'm being so fu.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: You are being bad. I mean so, but I mean
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I just when you compare and contrast with Olivia, who
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: is like afrodite.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Me know what I'm saying.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: But I mean, honey, go get your do it. I mean,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: if you love it, that's great.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's got a good dick. Maybe, I mean, I.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Mean, a good dick covers a multitude of sins. I know,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: You tell me every time, Well it's true, impotent man,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: if you know you know? Okay, patrons, Oh no, don't
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: go there.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Don't get me talking now. But that was it, right.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: We had to suffer through that, and we had some
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: previews for next week.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which was the Plath family is all going to
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: be under one roof and some Airbnb or whatever for
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Mariah's music video or something, or they're gonna do some
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Plath music video. I don't fucking know, but I'm excited
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: to see. Okay, Olivia doing speed dating. Nobody cares. Why
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: are we doing happening? Why are we speed dating? If
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: you're already dating a guy long distance?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Just send her to therapy. I'll watch that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I would totally watch that with doctor Orna.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. Yes.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: And then we also have Barry talking about Maria's X. Right,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: but I'm like, I want to see this guy.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Is he We're not going to see him.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to see him. I think he's
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: gonna appear.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna see him. I think we're
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: gonna see him from the back. We're not going to
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: see him.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: What because he's married.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Probably he's gonna with his two kids.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's like a Randall Emmett situation.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, maybe, my god, please, I can't wait. Yeah,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: but I think the season is almost over, and actually, frankly,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I'm ready for it.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with that because Sister Wives Girls coming out
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: next week?
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: And then are we gonna start ninety Day Fiance before
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: the ninety Days?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Is that coming out? Yeah?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: No, I think it came out started this Sunday. Oh yeah, okay,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I think we've got a blind Nigerian who is going
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: to marry some chick who believes in aliens and who's
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: completely wiggedy whack. We've got somebody who's I think a
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: paraplegic and who's having a different experience from the rest
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: of us. Oh, and I just yeah, it looks pretty interesting. Okay,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: we would like it. We should get into it.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I like before the ninety days.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe after Welcome to Platform, we will have
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: sister wives and we will have before the ninety Days
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: on the general pot, Yes, you're welcome, You're welcome. We
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: do so much work for you, and you guys haven't
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: even checked out our Patreon. I mean, all right, do
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: we want to make a totally different episode for Unexpected
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: or do you just want to speed run Unspected? All right,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: We're going to stay here and talk Unexpected.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Let's just get it done.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Because the season finale was last week, the week that
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I was sick. I'm sorry.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like you missed much, no, girl.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: So why don't we just cover that and put a
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: pin in it?
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: All?
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Well, let's start with Caley with Graham and Becky Honey
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: and Becky meth Mom, Oh my god.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Girl showing up and eating all that food. I that
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: was through Madous Honey with her weird messed out boyfriend.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Dude, if somebody did that in my house, I'd be like,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, Mandy, when are you going to explode? She
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: sat there seething the entire time. I'm jumping as.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that. So, Kaylee's home from the hospital.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: She was in the hospital for like a week or
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: whatever because she had an emergency sea section, and Graham
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: was supposed to stay a whole week at their house
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: to help Kaylee with the baby and be a dad
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: or whatever. He like didn't want to change diapers. He's
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: like making Kaylee's friend change a diaper, which I'm just
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: like that poor girl, she don't want to do.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: It was a poopy diaper, and he was asking her
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: to put some sort of ointment on the baby's.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Peak on his peepee. I'm like, dude, come.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: On, Yeah, he slept the entire time.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: And he's resentful because he had to stay up all
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: night changing diapers. Kaylee was recovering from her emergency C
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: section and fifty hour labor You punk cass bitch.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, And then not even twenty four hours later, he
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: leaves with his friend. He's like, I gotta go home.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I gotta go back to go to work.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: And my mom needs me to come home. I gotta
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: take care of me.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Mom.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: She's got mental health. Is she's bolder somebody unlike my kid? Yeah?
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: And my girlfriend?
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, my mom. I meted out.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Mom needs right. So if I'm that mother, I'm going
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: to take that phone call from you, son, and I'm
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be like, no, uh huh, you're staying right there,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: and I'll pick you up. You can go to school
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: and I'll take you back when you're done with school.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: But no, you're staying right there because you're a father.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Now yep, you're a father now. Yeah, you fucked around,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: you find out, so have them with your new responsibility.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: But nope, Becky totally just comes over to pick him up,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I think, And that's when she's eaten in the kitchen well, she.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Sits down and she takes the grand baby and then
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: he starts to cry, and so she gives the grand
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: baby back. And this is where we get the interstitial
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: from Mandy, who's like, she will come over to the
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: house while the baby is sleeping, pick up the baby,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: hold the baby, the baby starts crying, and then she'll
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: give him back to somebody else. And now the baby's up.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: So you say you're coming over to help, but you're
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: actually taking away our help. You're taking away our peace
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: because you're here just sitting on the couch like a
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: lump of meThe.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you're eating chips and salsa in the
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: kitchen and pizza.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Where did he get the pizza? So he's just so
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: her friend is just going through the cupboards, into the refrigerator,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: grabbing whatever kind of food, eating their food, and then
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: bouncing and leaving.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Dude, Kaylie is never gonna see Graham like at all.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: He is not going to be present. He's not going
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: to pay child support. I mean, I hope they have
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: some kind of agreement where he is paying child sport,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: but I don't think. I think at the end of
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: this episode, she says she's got no money from him.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Right vipers for anything, girl, Becky, you should be paying something, yep,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: toward the upkeep of your grandchild.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I can't get out of bed.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: God, unless there's a math bob, then I can get
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: out of bed.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: So fucking stupid. I feel bad for Kaylee, but at
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: the same time online girl.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Oh but I mean, Mandy, you drove your whole ass
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: child at fourteen years old. Kaylee was fourteen years old.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Eleven.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Drove her eleven.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: They've been together since they were eleven.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Drove her since the time she got her period, all
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the way forty five minutes to Graham's house, Becky's house.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Dropped your kid off, went somewhere else. You didn't drop
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: her off and stay there and wait for her to
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: come back you. You dropped her off. You went somewhere else,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: And so inevitably they fucked. Yeah, and Mandy, this is
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: what you get. Sit there and see about Becky and
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: see the about Graham. She's so mad, Oh.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: She's so many hates them, and she's gonna end up
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: raising this kid too. Of course, because Kaylee's also a
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: little bit of a bat. Yep, She's gonna want to
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: go back to cheerleading. And she's I don't want to
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: go do all these things. Like she says she loves
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Easton a lot, but she's also a fifteen year old girl, Like,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, her priorities are not gonna be on this baby. No,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be having fun, going to prom doing stupid stuff.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. Yeah, Mandy's gonna definitely be the
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: one to stand in the gap, no question but to
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: ask Yep.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Then we have Jenna's dullmass. She's back in Myrtle Beach.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I guess her and Delaney had a falling out. Nobody cares,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: but she took a pregnancy test and she's pregnant with
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: JJ's big, big headed baby.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: What a shock when he confessed on the couch next
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: to his mother that they only raw dog, So, like,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: what a shock that now she's pregnant.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Cares? Yeah, God, I can't with people like this.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: So she's a little worried because she still has to
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: hammer out custody with Aiden. Uh huh, who is up
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: in out in Pennsylvania. Yeah, and if she can't do that,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: then she might have to relocate, and she doesn't think
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: JJ will relocate back to Pennsylvania though she's what's gonna happen,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: and she's really scared. She actually calls Delaney, which I
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: kind of loved.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she calls to.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Landy because she's gonna take that pregnancy test. Delaney is
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: on her way to class, and Delaney tells us on
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: the couch like I haven't heard from her, Like I
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: came down to Myrtle Beach for her birthday and JJ
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't like me, And apparently JJ is the one behind her.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: No longer talking to me. Now, all of a sudden,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: you might be pregnant. You want to call me? Okay,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: So she was very dismissive with Jenna, which Jenna deserved.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Jenna finds out she's pregnant. She puts the cup. She
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: puts a little cup that says the best dad or
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: whatever with her peace stick in a box. So correct
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: gives it to JJ with his big old head. Yeah,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: and all those curls on those.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Head, Oh my god, mega mind.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: He seemed happy.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I mean he was kind of like whatever in the moment,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: but afterwards he's like, yeah, I'm gonna step up. I'll
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: be a dad of two and whatever. He's got like
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: one brain.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Cell, so in that big head only one rain. Yeah,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: the way he talks, that's marvel if it's only one
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: brain cell. But do you notice that they're living in
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: his mom's house, And did you notice how palatial and
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: expansive that house was. Yes, So Jenna and JJ have
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: a great life. They do on their mother's time. So
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: of course they're going to bring more children into the equations.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you, Well, and I guess Jenna also makes
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: money from Instagram and stuff like that.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Whatever, Yeah, buy a house, then provide for yourself, agreed.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then we have the bulk of this episode,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: which is Lily and Lawrence's wedding, which nobody cares. Nobody cares.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Why are these people on the show. Why are they
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: on the show. We're not expecting, We're not unexpecting. No,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: we're just still together with the kids from the other
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: unexpected season watching.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Your fucking wedding, talking about how you got your period,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: how your titties are saggy because your baby drink all
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: the milk out of them, and then watching you get
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: absolutely fucking shit faced.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: That was great.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: That was hilarious. I mean, that was so fucking funny
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: because it's embarrassing because like you're so fucking drunk, like
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: she's slurring. Lawrence is like, I've never seen her this drunk, But.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I thought that was sweet. She's happy and she really
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: wanted this wedding to happen. Yeah, she looked beautiful. Yeah,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: he looked you from the kids were dancing and partying
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: and it looked like a nice time. So good for Lily.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: But now get off my television.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Do not come back for another I never want to
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: see you again. And I'm like, why was this episode
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: thirty five minutes of just your wedding?
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah? They got nothing.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, what do we not get anything with Anya
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: and Da Kwan? No freaking Nate and Emily. Yeah, like
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: we're just gonna leave Nate and Emily chop liver.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Nate's my favorite too, and I love A Kwan. I
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: don't like Anya or a I don't know, but I mean,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: we should have been able to see where everybody is
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: at the end of the show, but nope, it's over. Nope,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: that's all we've got.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: But I mean over. Like the beginning of the season
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: was pretty good, Yeah, pretty trashy.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think previous seasons were way better. Yeah, and
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I would have liked if they had some kind of
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: a reunion so we can see where they are now, like, yeah,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: what's happening with Nate and let me know what's going on?
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: But there's no tell all, there's no reunion.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: I don't like that. A lot of these shows don't
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: do tell us.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Well, they used to do. They've had reunions before for
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: unexpected Yes, why not this time?
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Why are they taking it away from us?
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: So if it comes back next year? Are we going
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: to watch it? Do you think?
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, if it's new people, if it's a bunch
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: of new teenagers getting pregnant stuff, sure, But if Anthy.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: And Lawrence come back, not.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I don't care about their married life.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: And that's our final answer. Better agreed. Okay, Well, well
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: we got that done. That's we got that under the belt.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: That was pretty much it.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, So I think that the next thing we're doing
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: is wrapping up Sister Wives season five.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: And then when we are going right into Sister Wives
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: season nineteen, which is honestly what we've been waiting for. Wait,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna be wrapping up Welcome to Platforms, So
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: our schedule might be shifting a little bit and We'll
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: figure it out and we'll let you know, but we'll
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: be here for the bullshit we will. You can bet
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: on that facts Now, is there anything else that we
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: need to say to these beautiful raccoons before we get
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: up on attic here be Well?
• 57:26
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• 57:32
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• 57:35
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• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Make sure to come back to hear us
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: break down that final episode of Sister Wives and breakdown
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: that would be fantastic. We know you like to work, honey,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: you've got that apple geez. Anyway, come back for that
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: and then tell them please do not forget that we
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: have nothing but love for you and peace.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Lay bye, good