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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the reading of Today's Washington Post for Thursday,
- 0:05April the twenty third of twenty twenty six. Your reader
- 0:10is Alastainer with the reminder the radio eyes for those
- 0:14blind with difficulties reading or holding printed material. And I
- 0:20start with the front page of today's paper, of which
- 0:24the top one four six is taken up an overhead
- 0:31view of the White House with the construction site of
- 0:35the former East wing of the White House. Oh, as
- 0:39seen from the top of the Washington Monument. And you
- 0:43see this completely construction area with the cranes on the background.
- 0:50Behind it the front lawn, lots of green trees, and
- 0:57very in viral looking White House. And that article is
- 1:03entitled Trump's secret terms for ball room donors revealed by
- 1:10Jonathan Edwards and Dan Diamond. The judge ordered release of
- 1:16agreement governing gifts for the four hundred million dollar project
- 1:24to the right of that in the last two columns
- 1:26six months to rid hermus of minds. Pentagon assesses oil
- 1:32prices could be high late into the year. Unpopular conflict
- 1:37has fractured Trump's base by Dan Lemouth, Noah Robertson, and
- 1:45Ellen Nakashima, and below that on the right hand side,
- 1:52Trump weighs tradeoffs that gave Obama grief. Sticking points are
- 1:58sanctions in Richmond, risk of empowering Iran by Michael Bernbaub.
- 2:08Below the article on the ballroom. On the far left,
- 2:12no payoff for GOP in tit for tat map battle.
- 2:20Trump team defends redistricting offensive in wake of Virginia defeat
- 2:26by Isaac Arnsteff. To the right of that and in
- 2:32the middle China Titans grip on AI firms that try
- 2:37to exit by Rebecca Tahan and Lyricle And below that
- 2:44is a picture of our Secretary of Health and Education,
- 2:52Robert F.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Kennedy.
- 2:54Speaker 1: He's being grilled on the hill to top GOP Senators
- 2:59who are our physicians pressed Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy
- 3:04Junior about his controversial record on vaccines in their first
- 3:09public meeting in over seven months. And to the right
- 3:15of that, as a Navy family member, Phelan out as
- 3:20Secretary of Navy after thirteen months. Officials say billionaire and
- 3:26Trumpdona clashed repeatedly with headseth by Dan lamonth Tera Copp
- 3:33and Noah Robertson first article, Trump fought to keep the
- 3:41ballroom fundraising contract secret.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Here's what's in it.
- 3:47Speaker 1: The agreement governinging hundreds of million dollars in private donations
- 3:54was kept secret until a watchdog group sued and a
- 4:00judge ordered it disclosed. And there is a picture from
- 4:04the opposite end of the White House at the west
- 4:07wing side construction cranes loom over the area where the
- 4:12East wing of the White House once stood. By Jonathan
- 4:18Edwards and Dan Diamond. The Trump Administration's contract governing hundreds
- 4:25of millions of dollars in private donations to build President
- 4:29Donald Trump's White House ballroom shields donor's identities, excludes the
- 4:35White House from conflict of interest protections and was disclosed
- 4:39only after a lawsuit and a judge's order. Records obtained
- 4:44by The Washington Post show the agreement establishing the legal
- 4:49and financial framework for the planned four hundred million dollars
- 4:53undertaking the most significant change to the White House in decades,
- 4:58was signed in early October, less than two weeks before
- 5:03demolation crews started destroying the East wing. Public Citizen, a
- 5:09government watchdog organization, sued to obtain the contract between the
- 5:14White House, the National Park Service, and the Trust for
- 5:18the National Mall, the nonprofit managing donations for the project,
- 5:24and shared the document with the Post. The Trump Administration's
- 5:30failure to disclose this contract was flatly unlawful, said Wendy Lieu,
- 5:37a public citizen attorney and lead council on the lawsuit,
- 5:42filed after the Park Service and the Interior Department failed
- 5:46to fulfill a public records request for the document, adding
- 5:51the American people are entitled to transparency over this multi
- 5:56million dollar project. The secrecy surround funding the contract mirrors
- 6:01the administration's broader approach to the project. White House officials
- 6:06have declined to disclose the total amount raised, the identities
- 6:11of all donors, or, until recently, basic details about the
- 6:16building's design. Court documents show Trump knew he was going
- 6:21to tear down the East Wing at least two months
- 6:24before doing so, but he never told the public. The
- 6:28contract provisions, taken together, allow wealthy donors with business before
- 6:34the federal government to contribute anonymously to a sitting Presentstan's
- 6:40pet project, while exempting the White House from key conflict
- 6:45of interest safetyguards and limiting scrutiny by Congress and the public.
- 6:51White House spokesman Davis Ingall said in a statement defending
- 6:56the administration's process.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Trump is working.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Twenty four to seven to make America greats again, including
- 7:04his historic beautification of the White House at no taxpayer expense.
- 7:12White House officials said not publicly posting the agreement was
- 7:17standard practice for contracts involving the executive residents, citing security concerns.
- 7:25They also said offering anonymity for donors was standard for
- 7:29significant projects, and framed the use of private funds as a.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Boon for taxpayers.
- 7:36Speaker 1: The administration did not respond to questions about failing to
- 7:40respond to public records request for the contract or fighting
- 7:45the release of the document in court. Trump has said
- 7:48that the administration has raised about three hundred million dollars
- 7:52for the project. The contract resembles templates used by the
- 7:58Park Service for more routine fundraising partnerships, with several notable differences.
- 8:06Provisions peppered throughout the agreement prevent the signatories from revealing
- 8:11the identities of anonymous donors one and two a review
- 8:16process for detecting conflicts of interest with the Park in
- 8:20Service and Interior Department makes no mention of doing the
- 8:24same for the President, other White House officials, or the
- 8:28fourteen other executive departments he oversees dozens of the projects.
- 8:34Known donors, which include Amazon, Lockheed, Martin, Pallanteer and Google
- 8:41collectively have billions of dollars in federal contracts before the administration.
- 8:47Speaker 2: In parentheses.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Amazon founder Jeff Bezos owns the post in parentheses. Critics
- 8:55have argued that allowing anonymous gifts to a sitting president's
- 8:59signature price creates precisely the kind of conflict the contract
- 9:04itself states it seeks to prevent. This document reveals that
- 9:11anonymous donations are the heart of this agreement, said John Golinger,
- 9:17a lawyer and public policy advocate with Public Citizen, adding
- 9:22who are these anonymous donors.
- 9:25Speaker 2: And what are they hiding.
- 9:28Speaker 1: Charles Tiefer, a retired law professor at the University of
- 9:32Baltimore who spent three years on congressionally authorized commission scrutinizing
- 9:38wartime contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan, said the innimity provisions
- 9:45potentially set up the Trump administration to block congressional increase
- 9:50into the project's funding. If Congress knocks on the door,
- 9:55the White House is going to slam it shut and
- 9:57say you're not allowed to know these owners. Tiefer said
- 10:02the National Park Service did not immediately respond to questions
- 10:07about the agreement.
- 10:09Speaker 2: The Trust for the.
- 10:10Speaker 1: National Mall said the Park Service asked to accept and
- 10:14manage private donations for the project, and that is not
- 10:19involved in the fundraising, planning, design, contracting, or execution of
- 10:24the ballroom. Spokeswoman Julie Moore said in an email, donations
- 10:31are subject to the same vetting process the Trust uses
- 10:34for other park projects, and donor names are disclosed in
- 10:38its annual report, website and tax filings, she added, except
- 10:44those who don't want to be. Moore said, some donors
- 10:48may wish to remain anonymous, and we respect donor wishes
- 10:52while in compliance with all applicable laws and regulations.
- 10:58Speaker 2: The Trust has.
- 10:59Speaker 1: Performed similar role on previous White House projects, including First
- 11:03Lady Milania Trump's Rose Garden restoration and tennis pavilion during
- 11:08her husband's first term. The contract excludes the White House
- 11:13from its conflict of interest review, which explicitly obliged obligates
- 11:18the Trust in the Park Service to ensure that fundraising
- 11:21does not give rise to an appearance of a loss
- 11:25of integrity or impartiality, but the executive residence at the
- 11:30White House, The party responsible for identifying and referring donors
- 11:34to the trust, and which the Trump administration has said
- 11:37in court filings, is helping manage the overall Ballroom project,
- 11:42is not required to face that scrutiny. Kathleen Carlark, a
- 11:48government ethics lawyer and law professor at Washington University in
- 11:52Saint Louis, called the agreements review process nothing more than
- 11:57a sham because it mandates the Trust to conduct a
- 12:01narrowly scoped conflict of interest examination while ignoring the vast
- 12:07majority of the federal government. Meanwhile, companies and individuals could
- 12:12be anonymously donating tens of millions of dollars as they
- 12:16stand to gain billion dollar government contracts, want to avoid
- 12:21a Justice Department criminal investigation or rid their companies of
- 12:26onerous label or environmental regulations. She said the contract was
- 12:33signed as work on the project Ballroom project was already underway.
- 12:40Crews have begun clearing trees and foliage from White House grounds.
- 12:44In September, twelve days after it was signed, demolition crews
- 12:49started tearing.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Down the East Wing.
- 12:51Speaker 1: The existence of the contract was not disclosed at the time. Trump,
- 12:57who says the ballroom is needed to host BPS at
- 13:01larger functions, is pushing to finish it before the end
- 13:05of his second term in twenty twenty nine. Congressional Democrats
- 13:11have pressed the Trust for months to share more information
- 13:15about the project. Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts and
- 13:21colleagues send a letter in January demanding to know how
- 13:24much money had been raised, whether donors had been promised
- 13:28special access or other perks, and whether the organization had
- 13:33internal controls to prevent preferential treatment. The Trust declined to
- 13:39disclose the amount raised, but said it was hearing adhering
- 13:44to all Park Service guidelines. Senator Richard BLUMENTHALCRAT of Connecticut
- 13:53and the top Democrat on the Senate Homeland Security and
- 13:56Governmental Affairs Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, demanded answers from dozens
- 14:03of ballroom donors and contractors about their involvement, and questioned
- 14:07the rapidly changing in secret terms of Trump's planned ballroom.
- 14:14He also sent letters to several people who attended a
- 14:17White House dinner in October, which Trump held to honor
- 14:21ballroom donors. Bloomenthal asked whether they had contributed and under
- 14:27what terms, noting that the administration had acknowledged it had
- 14:31not publicly identified all donors, Blumenthal said in a statement
- 14:38to the Post. At every turn, President Trump has sought
- 14:43to conceal the facts about his monstrous, multimillion dollar ballroom.
- 14:48Speaker 2: His administration has.
- 14:49Speaker 1: Kept the contract under wraps, the identities of big donor
- 14:53dollar secret, and the American people in the dark about
- 14:56what big corporations have to gain by funding this boondoggle. Blumenthal,
- 15:04Warren and other Democrats have introduced legislation to man anonymous
- 15:08donations for the ballroom and other projects on the White
- 15:11House grounds. Warren told the Post there's only one good
- 15:17explanation for while Trump ultra wealthy ballroom donors want to
- 15:21stay anonymous, they have something to hide. A federal judge
- 15:27last month also criticized the Trump administration's approach to soliciting
- 15:32private donors through its contract with the Park Service, calling
- 15:36it a rude Goldberg contraction that allowed the president to
- 15:42avoid Congressional oversight while building the ballroom. US District Judge
- 15:47Richard Leon, an appointee of President George W. Bush, ruled
- 15:53last month that construction must be halted on the ballroom
- 15:56until Congress authorizes the project. The Trump administration has appealed
- 16:02that ruling, and a three judge penel at the US
- 16:05Court of Appeals for the DC's Circuit has allowed construction
- 16:09to continue while the case proceeds.
- 16:12Speaker 2: The White House.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Has repeatedly declined to release the government contracts with the
- 16:17private companies designing, engineering, and building the ballroom top on
- 16:24the right hand side. Clearing straight of Hormuz of mines
- 16:29could take sixth months, Pentagon tells Congress. The Pentagon assessment,
- 16:36shared in a classified briefing for lawmakers, suggests gasoline and
- 16:41oil prices could remain elevated through the midterm elections. Bundane Lemouth,
- 16:48Noah Robertson, and Ellen Nakashima it could take six months
- 16:53to fully clear the straight of Hormuz of mines deployed
- 16:57by the Iranian military, and any such a operation is
- 17:00unlikely to be carried out until the US War of
- 17:03the run ends. The Pentagon has informed Congress an assessment
- 17:09that means the conflict's economic impact could could extend late
- 17:14into this year or beyond. A senior Defense Department official
- 17:19shared the estimate during a classified briefing Tuesday for members
- 17:23of the House Armed Services Committee. Said three officials familiar
- 17:28with the discussion. The timeline met with frustration by Democrats
- 17:33and Republicans alike. Two of these people said, is the
- 17:38latest sign that gasoline and oil prices could remain elevated
- 17:42long after any peace deal is reached, beyond any economic
- 17:49ramifications such as an outcome. Also could have significant implications
- 17:54politically in the US, particularly for Republicans as members mid
- 18:00term elections draw neil. President Donald Trump's decision to start
- 18:05the war has proved unpopular with most Americans' recent polls
- 18:09have shown, and it has fractured his political base, which
- 18:14voted him into office based in part on his repeated
- 18:17promises to avoid foreign military entanglements and focus more on
- 18:24domestic issues. On Wednesday, the average cost of a gallon
- 18:29of gas in the United States was four dollars and
- 18:32two cents, according to Triple A, up from two dollars
- 18:37and ninety eight cents just before the war began in February.
- 18:41Trump is vacillated on the question of when gas prices
- 18:45may come down, saying this month that they could be
- 18:49the same, or.
- 18:50Speaker 3: May come down or maybe a little bit higher by
- 18:56the mid terms, before declaring that they could be much
- 19:00or before the election.
- 19:02Speaker 1: His secret Treasury Secretary Scott percent said it could be
- 19:07late September before we can have three dollar gas again.
- 19:14Three officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of
- 19:18the discussions sensitivity, said lawmakers were told that Iran may
- 19:23have implaced twenty.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Or more minds in and around.
- 19:27Speaker 1: The Strait of Homews, a vital waterway for the movement
- 19:31of Middle Eastern oil through the Persian Gulf. Some were
- 19:34floated remotely using GPS technology, which has made it difficult
- 19:39for us to detect the minds as they are deployed,
- 19:42the senior defense official told lawmakers. Others are believed to
- 19:47have been laid by Iranian forces using small votes. The
- 19:52Pentagon declined to address questions about the military's assessment for
- 19:57how long it could take to clear the mines. A spokesman,
- 20:01Sean Parnell issued a brief statement acknowledging that the disclosure
- 20:06was made in a classified briefing for lawmakers and calling
- 20:10the information inaccurate. By deciding to publish these false claims,
- 20:17the Washington Post has made clear they care more about
- 20:20advancing an agenda than truth. The statement says US Central Command,
- 20:28which overseas operations in the region declined to comment. The
- 20:32White House referred questions to the Pentagon. The stifling of
- 20:36shipping traffic in the Strait of Hormuz has emerged as
- 20:39an enduring flashpoint in the war, with Ran declaring it
- 20:43closed and even attacking some ships as a way of
- 20:46inflicting plane on the global economy and the Trump administration,
- 20:51as Washington and Tehran each pressed their demands to end
- 20:55the wall. Before the war, about twenty percent of the
- 20:59world's oil moved through the strait, with Japan, South Korea, China,
- 21:03and other Asian nations among those heavily reliant on Middle
- 21:08Eastern energy. Trump has insisted that Iran end its nuclear program,
- 21:14turn over all of its highly enriched uranium, and fully
- 21:19reopened the strait, threatening further military action if Tehran does
- 21:24not agree. Iran has said it will not continue negotiating
- 21:28with US officials unless Trump ends a naval blockade he
- 21:33imposed this month to choke Iran's oil based economy. Iran
- 21:39began laying mines in the strait in March as US
- 21:43and Israeli forces continued their attacks on the country, a
- 21:46detail reported earlier by CNN. Trump in return, Or in
- 21:52turn threatened that Iran could face consequences at a level
- 21:58never before seen unless it removed any minds that may
- 22:03have been placed. The Pentagon in subsequent days highlighted an
- 22:08effort to attack Iranian vessels that could implace mines. Defense
- 22:13Secretary Pete Hegseth, speaking on social media, said US forces
- 22:18were destroying those ships with ruthless precision and that the
- 22:22United States will not allow terrorists to hold the Strait
- 22:26of Hormus hostage. Iran's deputy Foreign Minister, Majid Tique Rabanci,
- 22:34responded by denying that Iran was laying any minds. The
- 22:38New York Times, citing US officials, reported this month that
- 22:42it appears around is unable to find all the minds
- 22:45that laid The Pentagon's latest assessment was shared with lawmakers
- 22:52after Trump said on social media that Aran, with the
- 22:56help of the USA, has removed or is removing all
- 22:59sea minds from the Strait of Hormuz. That assertion, made
- 23:04to Friday amid a flurry of messages posted by the
- 23:06President on his truth social platform, coincided with his apparent
- 23:11efforts to calm markets and project confidence that had deal
- 23:15to the end of the wall was near. Trump on
- 23:20Tuesday said that he was extending a two week ceasefire indefinitely.
- 23:25Auran's leadership, he said, is seriously fractured and needs to
- 23:31come up with a unified proposal. His comments came amid
- 23:35indications that Iranian officials were reluctant to meet for another
- 23:40round of negotiations. CNN reported in March that an assessment
- 23:45by the Defense Intelligence Agency found that Iran could keep
- 23:49the straight closed anywhere from one to six months, with
- 23:53mans relevant as one factor. Parnell, the Pentagon spokesman, told
- 23:58the network that a six month closure of the Strait
- 24:02of Hormuz is an impossibility and completely unacceptable to Hegseth.
- 24:08It is unclear what planned the US military would implement
- 24:12to go about a mind clearing operation. Officials have raised
- 24:16the possibility of using helicopters, drones, and explosive ordnance disposable divers.
- 24:25Some commercial vessels moved through the Strait of Hormuza this
- 24:29month during the seat fire, but shipping traffic against all
- 24:32this past weekend, after Iranian forces opened fire on tanker
- 24:36ships and declared the waterway closed again. Richard Nephew an
- 24:42expert on Iranian diplomacy and senior researcher at Columbia University,
- 24:47said the six month time frame to clear the strait
- 24:51of mines is likely to jot oil and gas markets.
- 24:55Given the concern insurance stip owners and captains will have
- 24:59a moving through through a mind seer lane, You're not
- 25:03going to have many people wanting to run that risk,
- 25:07Nephew said. The presence of minds might not cause a
- 25:11total disruption, he said, but the consequence of a two
- 25:16track state being partially unusable could be significant. An in
- 25:22conjunction with that article about the Navy and the strait
- 25:26of horm mows, John Phelan forced out as Navy's secretary
- 25:32after thirteen months. The billionaire was a significant contributor to
- 25:38President Donald Trump's campaign, but official said he clashed repeatedly
- 25:43with Defense Secretary Pete hegseth By, Dan Lemouth, Terror Copp
- 25:50and Noah Robertson.
- 25:54Speaker 2: Secretary.
- 25:54Speaker 1: Navy Secretary John Phalan will depart the Trump administration effective immediately,
- 26:01Official said Wednesday evening. An abrupt exit after thirteen two
- 26:07millis tumultuous months at the Pentagon. Sean Parnell, a spokesman
- 26:14for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced the news on social media,
- 26:19saying that heg Seth and Deputy Defense Secretary Steve Feinberg
- 26:23wished Phelan well. Five officials said that Phelan, a billionaire
- 26:28art collector and fundraiser for President Donald Trump's re election campaign,
- 26:34was forced out after repeated clashes with both hag Seth
- 26:38and Feinberg over his management of shipbuilding and a variety
- 26:42of other issues. One administration officials, who like some others,
- 26:47spoke on the condition of an inemnity because of the
- 26:50issue sensitivity, said Phelan was asked to step down. Spokespeople
- 26:57for heg Seth and Feinberg did not respond questions about
- 27:01the move. Spokespeople for Phelan and the White House referred
- 27:05questions back to.
- 27:06Speaker 2: Head Seth's office.
- 27:08Speaker 1: Navy Under Secretary Hung Chou, a Navy veteran and former
- 27:13candidate for House and Senate seats in Virginia, will become
- 27:17the Services acting Secretary. Parnell said in his announcement. Hegseth
- 27:23has ferd Chow for the role for some time. Official
- 27:26said Phalan's exit is the latest departure of his senior
- 27:31political appointees so far this year, after Trump, contrary to
- 27:35his first term as president, mostly resisted making said to
- 27:39moves early on in this administration. Others who have been
- 27:44hosted or resigned under pressure since the beginning of March
- 27:48include Homeland Security Secretary Christie Ohnom, Attorney General Pam Bonding,
- 27:54and Labor Secretary Laurie Chavez Demmo.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Hegseth, by contrast, has.
- 28:00Speaker 1: Overseen a near continuous purge of military's most senior ranks.
- 28:05The high profile oasters, often made with little public explanation,
- 28:11include the top generals and admirals of every branch of
- 28:14service except for the Marine Corps, several military lawyers, and
- 28:19even the head of the Army Chaplain's Corps. A disproportionate
- 28:24number of those he's removed are women and other minorities.
- 28:30Disputes between Phelan, Hegseth, and Finberg are part of a
- 28:34broader pattern of infighting that has occurred during heg Seth's
- 28:38tenure leading the Pentagon. The Defense Secretary is also applished
- 28:43repeatedly with Army Secretary Dan Driscoll over Hegseth's moves to
- 28:48fire some generals and block others from promotion. Parnell, in
- 28:54his statement earlier this month, claimed that Hegseth maintains excellent
- 29:00working relationships with the secretaries of every military service branch,
- 29:06but numerous officials said that is not the case. One
- 29:11US official familiar with the issue said Wednesday night, they've
- 29:15been out to get Driscoll and.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Phalan for a long time now.
- 29:21Speaker 1: One source of disagreement between heg Seth and Phalan centered
- 29:24on Phelan's initial chief of Staff, John Harrison, and the
- 29:29manner in which he exercised his authority inside the Pentagon.
- 29:33Officials familiar with the matter said Harrison was hosted by
- 29:37heg Seth in October, just after Chile was confirmed by
- 29:41the Senate as the Services Under Secretary. Charles supported the move.
- 29:46Official said Harrison and Chow did not respond to requests
- 29:51for comment. Even after months of internal tension, the timing
- 29:56of Valan's departure still managed to catch defense officials surprise.
- 30:01Those familiar with the matter said Phelan, they noted, had
- 30:05visited Capitol Hill on Wednesday afternoon to meet with the
- 30:08Republicans on the Senate Armed Services Committee, just hours before
- 30:13his departure was announced. In a statement, Wednesday evening, Senator
- 30:19Jack Reid, Rhode Island, the top Democrat on the Senate
- 30:23Armed Services Committee, called Phelan's departure troubling. Reid said, arguing
- 30:33that I am concerned it is yet another example of
- 30:37the instability and dysfunction that have come to define the
- 30:41Department of Defense under President Trump and Secretary Hexcess, adding
- 30:46this kind of disruption at the top sends the wrong
- 30:50signal to our sailors and marines, to.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Our allies, and to our adversaries.
- 30:57Speaker 1: A spokesperson for Senator Roger Wicca, Mississippi, the committee's Republican chair,
- 31:03did not immediately respond to reach for comment. The administration
- 31:09has gone increasingly frustrated that the lack of progress from
- 31:13Falan's office in turning around the American shipbuilding industry, a
- 31:18top priority of Trump's, three US officials said. One of
- 31:23them said that many of the Navy programs were behind
- 31:26scheduled and that Balan had failed to make major changes
- 31:30or progress while in the role. Feinberg had taken greater
- 31:34control over some shipbuilding programs, in an unusual sign of
- 31:38the Pentagon's top leadership becoming directly involved in the service's
- 31:42marquee purchases. There was a sense that Navy leadership resisting
- 31:47the Trump administration's intended direction for the service that contributed
- 31:52to Phalan's removal, the official said, noting that others should
- 31:56interpret the secretary's removal as a warning. Hunter Stiers, who
- 32:02served as maritime strategist to Navy's Secretary Carlos del Toro
- 32:07during the Biden administration, said that Phelan committed a grave
- 32:13strategic as well as political error this week by signaling
- 32:18his openness to outsourcing production of the Navy's warships to
- 32:23shipyards abroad. Everything's on the table, Phelan said during an
- 32:29appearance at the Sea Air Space Conference outside Washington, according
- 32:34to The Navy Times, adding we just need to look
- 32:38at it, understand it, understand the implications behind it, and
- 32:43decide if we think that makes sense or not. Stires
- 32:47said the comments directly undercut a biased partisan strategy for
- 32:53shipbuilding championed by the Trump administration that aims to incentivize
- 32:58shipbuilders to invest in modernizing and expanding U S shipyards.
- 33:03Phalen's exit, Steyers said, should be read as a stark
- 33:08and welcome signal that outsourcing US naval construction is and
- 33:13must remain a non starter. There also was tension between
- 33:19heg Seth and Phalen after heg Seth directed the Navy
- 33:22Secretary in December to determine whether Senator Mark Kelly, Democrat
- 33:27of Arizona, a retired Navy captain, should face repercussions for
- 33:33appearing in a video that advised service members of.
- 33:36Speaker 2: Their duty not to follow illegal orders. Officials familiar with the.
- 33:41Speaker 1: Matter said heg Seth had Palin review whether Kelly's involvement
- 33:47in the video should merrit any action by the Pentagon.
- 33:50Whalen provided his recommendation to heg Seth in mid December,
- 33:55though the Navy did not disclose publicly what he advised.
- 33:59Speaker 2: Heg Seth later.
- 34:01Speaker 1: Unknowns the Pentagon was escalating the review into a full
- 34:05command investigation, which was later blocked by a federal court.
- 34:10The Fence Department said it intends to appeal the decision.
- 34:16Continue with Iran, Trump eyes Iran deal with many of
- 34:21the trade offs. He blasted Obama for accepting. As US
- 34:27en boys pursue peace talks, the president confronts persistent sticking
- 34:32points one sanctions relief, two enrichment limits, and three the
- 34:37risk of empowering Tehran by Michael Birnbaum, Beings and frozen assets.
- 34:45Speaker 2: May be handed back to Iran.
- 34:48Speaker 1: Agreements to limit Tehran's nuclear program may eventually expile, and
- 34:53some of the same hardline leaders who crushed nationwide protests
- 34:57in January could end up better resourced than they were before.
- 35:02President Donald Trump unleashed crushing airstrikes more than seven weeks ago.
- 35:09After a decade of fiercely attacking a previous deal with Iran,
- 35:13Trump pursuing away out of a war he launched, has
- 35:17authorized US negotiators to consider a bargain that involves many
- 35:22of the same trade offs one of his predecessors confronted,
- 35:28though talks appear paused for now following Trump's decision on
- 35:32Tuesday to extend the ceasefire indefinitely. While i Ran comes
- 35:37up with a unified proposal, the President will likely face
- 35:42the same challenges no matter when negotiators eventually sit down
- 35:47with each other. With the conflict on a hold, an
- 35:51uneasy truce could solidify, but shipping through the Strait of
- 35:56Hamuz has not returned to normal levels, a mere to
- 35:59continuing un u S blockade of Iranian ports and Iran's
- 36:03insertion of control over the shipping lanes that has created
- 36:07a drag on global energy markets. Iran retains control over
- 36:12its trove of highly enriched uranium, which Trump has previously
- 36:17said is unacceptable in potential terms of a deal. The
- 36:23potential terms of a deal have Trump making efforts to
- 36:28store up his hardline support as Iran. Hawkes warned that
- 36:32the President should not be too eager to strike a
- 36:35deal pallets of cash without the palettes. Peter Dorin, a
- 36:42senior adjunct fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies,
- 36:46wrote on x reviving a long use Republican criticism of
- 36:50parrech Barack Obama's Iran deal, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of
- 36:55Action or jcpoa comprehension plan of action to attack the
- 37:04proposals currently under destruction under discussion. Trump and other Republican
- 37:10critics of that twenty fifteen deal have spent the past
- 37:13decade blasting it for handling, for handing pallets of cash
- 37:18to Iran, of reference to one point seven billion dollars
- 37:22that the Obama administration agreed to send to Tehran. That
- 37:26was the resolution of a decade's old business dispute. Obama
- 37:31administration officials later acknowledged they hoped the money would ensure
- 37:36that Iranians held to their side of the bargain. Trump
- 37:39pulled the United States out of the agreement in twenty eighteen. Now,
- 37:48the Trump administration is floating the possibility of unfreezing twenty
- 37:52billion dollars in part proceeds from Iranian oil sales that
- 37:57sations have locked up in banks around.
- 37:59Speaker 2: The world world.
- 38:01Speaker 1: The money would be a barberining chip to secure around
- 38:04stockpile of highly enriched uranium. But O thought elements of
- 38:08the deal are still in question, including points that unsettle
- 38:13some of those who criticized the earlier agreement. They are
- 38:17running into the same fundamental hurdle that shaped the long
- 38:21decade plus and negotiations that finally led to the JCPOA,
- 38:27which is that the Iranians are completely immovable on the
- 38:31question of enrichment of nuclear fuel, said Suzanne Maloney, vice
- 38:37president of the Brookings Institution, who is an Iran expert.
- 38:42Speaker 2: Iran has long denied that it.
- 38:44Speaker 1: Seeks a nuclear weapon, but argues that it has a
- 38:48right under international law to enrich uranium or other nuclear
- 38:52materials to run a civilian nuclear program. The Iranians are
- 38:59prepared to accept certain compromises in terms of timelines and
- 39:04level of enrichment and what happens to the stockpile, Maloney said,
- 39:09adding that they are completely unwilling to simply give up enrichment,
- 39:15and that was one of the core critiques of the
- 39:19twenty fifteen deal. Trump publicly insists that his deal won't
- 39:25share the flaws he denounced in his predecessor's agreement. The
- 39:30twenty fifteen deal was a guaranteed road to a nuclear weapon,
- 39:35which will not and cannot happen with the deal we're
- 39:39working on, Trump wrote on Social Truth Social on Monday,
- 39:44adding the deal all caps that we are making with
- 39:48Iran will be far better all caps. If a deal
- 39:54happens under Trump all caps, it will guarantee peace, secure, purity,
- 40:00and safety not only for Israel and the Middle East,
- 40:03but for Europe, America and everywhere else. It will be
- 40:08something that the entire world will be proud of, Trump
- 40:12wrote on Truth Social. The political risks, however, are significant,
- 40:18both for Trump and for Vice President J. D. Bantce,
- 40:22who has taken a leading role in the negotiations. As
- 40:25he contemplates his desire to win the presidency in twenty
- 40:30twenty eight. The Vice President, longer proponent of maintaining a
- 40:35restrained approach to US military action around the world, was
- 40:40among the most skeptical of launching a war with Iran
- 40:43in the lead up to the February attacks by the
- 40:46US in Israel. Now he has been charged with ending
- 40:50it and potentially owning whatever painful compromises may be necessary.
- 40:57Speaker 2: The White House efforts to.
- 40:58Speaker 1: Seek a deal have put a big supporters in a
- 41:01tricky place, especially while money is being floated as a
- 41:05bargaining chip, you fall into a slippery slope where you
- 41:10forget the money is fungible, and so you know whether
- 41:14it's twenty million or ten billion or six billion. In
- 41:18the end, if it's a regime that is not giving
- 41:21you a concession on a key illicit activity like sponsoring
- 41:26terrorism or producing something of a threat, there will always
- 41:30be an argument that did you free up x amount
- 41:33of money here to pay for this, said Richard Goldenberg,
- 41:37who worked on Iran issues in front first Trump administration
- 41:41and worked on Trump's National Energy Dominance Council for part
- 41:45of last year. Goldberg said, then you free up that
- 41:51amount of money over there to pay for something else,
- 41:54and so you know, there will always be an argument
- 41:57that you're indirectly subsidizing the activities that they have not halted.
- 42:04But Goldberg said that if Trump can secure the highly
- 42:08enriched uranium and dismantle a deeply buried under nuclear buried
- 42:14nuclear facility under construction at an Iranian site known as
- 42:18Pickaxe Mountain, that's pretty game changing. You basically, at least
- 42:23for now and for the next several years, have eliminated
- 42:26the nuclear threat that Iran proses.
- 42:31Speaker 2: In addition to the.
- 42:32Speaker 1: Nuclear issue, Trump wants a new deal to tackle issues
- 42:36that Trump's negotiators, let me repeat that or restart. In
- 42:42addition to the nuclear issue, Trump wants a new deal
- 42:46to tackle issues that Obama's negotiators left aside. The Obama
- 42:52era deal was always limited in scope to Iran's nuclear program.
- 42:58It left untouched Iran's miss program and the regime's support
- 43:02for regional proxies, including Hamas and Hezblah, which Trump has
- 43:07said he wants a new deal to cover. The president
- 43:12has also said he hopes to bar Aran from any
- 43:15nuclear enrichment at all if Iran were to agree to
- 43:19a temporary moratorium. That would be stricter than the twenty
- 43:23fifteen deal, which allows Aran to maintain its civilian enrichment
- 43:28program for use in its power plants. The ass spy
- 43:33Iran are going to be greater than they were in
- 43:36twenty fifteen, in part because the administration is trying to
- 43:40do so much, said Wendy Sherman, who was the lead
- 43:44US negotiator with Iran under Obama. She added, It's not
- 43:49clear to me what Trump's bottom lines are. Is it
- 43:52a stockpile, is it in Richmond? Is it missiles? Is
- 43:56it proxies? Is it the Strait of Hormus? If he
- 44:00gets a suspension of ten, fifteen, twenty years of enrichment,
- 44:04we did not get a suspension of the enrichment program,
- 44:08so that would be more than we got on that element,
- 44:10Sherman said, but added.
- 44:13Speaker 2: How will it be verified?
- 44:15Speaker 1: It's totally unclear to me or anybody probably to him,
- 44:18and what will Trump have to give in return? Complicating
- 44:23matters further, the world has changed in the eleven years
- 44:27since Secretary of Straight John F.
- 44:29Speaker 2: Carey.
- 44:30Speaker 1: An Iranian foreign Minister Mohammad Javid sharf Strode smiling out
- 44:35of a genteel hotel in Vienna. Having struck a deal
- 44:39after years of talks, Iran agreed in twenty fifteen to
- 44:43accept strict limits on its nuclear enrichment in exchange for
- 44:47gradual relief from economic sanctions. Back then, Iran had no
- 44:53highly enriched uranium. In the years since Trump pulled out
- 44:57oft the JCPOA, it built to stockpile of about nine
- 45:02hundred and seventy pounds of uranium enriched to sixty percent,
- 45:07just short of weapons grade level, according to the International
- 45:11Atomic Energy Agency. Iran's current government is also more hardlined
- 45:17than the reforma's leaders who made the deal with Obama.
- 45:22Tehran has been deeply weakened by aggressive military action over
- 45:26the past year, first the twelve day war with Israel
- 45:31in June that was punctuated by Trump's strikes on nuclear facilities,
- 45:36and now the US war that Trump says has destroyed
- 45:39much of Iran's military, along with its top ranks of leaders,
- 45:44its regional proxies hamas, and has a far weaker a
- 45:48major bacco. Russia is distracted by the war in Ukraine
- 45:53that could soften the ground for a deal, but Iran
- 45:56two has bargaining chips. The Iranian regime has demonstrated its
- 46:01staying power. It has unleashed a powerful new ability to
- 46:05throttle shipping traffic through the Strait of Hormuz, driving up
- 46:09energy prices around the world, including the United States. Facing
- 46:14withering US attacks, some hardliners in Tehran may be more
- 46:18inclined to seek a nuclear weapon, increasing pressure on Washington
- 46:23to address the uranium stock power. There are also dynamics
- 46:28that may make Tehran less inclined to strike a deal,
- 46:32said Richard Nephew, a former State Department official who helped
- 46:36craft the sanctions regime against Orian under the Obama administration
- 46:42that built pressure for an agreement. In a funny way,
- 46:47the war almost releases some of the pressure on Iran,
- 46:50said Nephew, who is now a senior research Skala at
- 46:53Columbia University. Nephew said, they have demonstrated that they can
- 47:00take a punch and that they can respond accordingly, rather
- 47:04than fearing what form US pressure on them might take,
- 47:07he said. And the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the more
- 47:11hard lined part of RAN's ruling elite, is now firmly
- 47:15at the fall, eliminating the tension with moderates that previously
- 47:20created space for negotiations. Nephew is a proponent of the
- 47:25twenty fifteen deal, but he said that he was leery
- 47:28of striking a fresh agreement with the new group of
- 47:31Iranian leaders. Nephew said, I'm not so sure. It's a
- 47:36fabulously great idea that after the January protest, we should
- 47:42be looking to do major sanctions relief for the Iranian
- 47:45government that killed all those people. And on to redistricting.
- 47:52Trump team defends redistricting push as GOP faces limited gains
- 47:59after Junior voat pushes seats towards Democrats, Republicans turned to
- 48:04Florida and the courts to clawback and edge by Isaac Arnsdorf.
- 48:11President Donald Trump's political team is defending its push to
- 48:15redraw congressional districts mid decade. A break from historical practice
- 48:21that provoked partisan retaliation cost hundreds of millions of dollars
- 48:26and so far has left Republicans no better position to
- 48:30retain the hosts. Virginia voters set back Trump's effort on
- 48:35Tuesday by approving a new map that shifts four seats
- 48:40towards Democrats. Some Republicans are now openly questioning the wisdom
- 48:45of opening this new front and partisan trench warfare since
- 48:49Trump pressured the Texas GOP last year to read district
- 48:53for a second time. Since the latest census, the ensuing
- 48:58votes between blue and red states have proved Democrats prospects
- 49:03in nine districts nationwide compared to eight or nine for Republicans,
- 49:08endangering GOP control of Congress as polls show public confidence
- 49:13declining in Trump's handling of the economy, on.
- 49:17Speaker 2: The war in Iran. When you go down the path of.
- 49:22Speaker 1: Starting to do these things mid decade, these are the
- 49:26kinds of outcomes you're going to run into. Voters are
- 49:30going to decide, and they did last night. Obviously not
- 49:35in our favor, Senate Majority Leader John Thune, Republican of
- 49:41South Dakota, said Wednesday. Trump's political team defended the campaign
- 49:47in interviews, insisting the party will still benefit court challenges
- 49:52and the other new map in Florida could yet gield gains,
- 49:56according to a senior member of Trump's political operation who
- 50:00spoke on the condition of anonymnity to discuss internal deliberations,
- 50:05citing lawsuits over some of the maps. The political team
- 50:10also said Republicans will benefit from trading some expensive races
- 50:14in southern California and suburban Texas for cheaper districts in
- 50:19Missouri and North Carolina. What I expect is that when
- 50:25all of this redistricting sort of continues this cycle, is
- 50:30that there will be a narrow advantage for Republicans. James Blair,
- 50:34the White House Deputy Chief of Staff who's on lead
- 50:38to run Trump's political operation, said Wednesday on CNN's Inside
- 50:43Politics with Dana Bash. Democrats started this like years ago,
- 50:48and they do it through the courts. Beyond the effect
- 50:53on this November's midterms, Trump's gambit took lawmakers' efforts to
- 50:57intrench their own power to a new level, establishing a
- 51:01new normal in which parties Jerrymanda every cycle instead of
- 51:05once a decade. Trump's political operation denied firing the first shot,
- 51:11arguing that Democrats already were using litigation to win more
- 51:15favorable maps and benefited from the Voting Rights Act requirement
- 51:19to have some districts where most voters were our minorities.
- 51:24The Supreme Court is widely expected to overturn that requirement
- 51:28this year, which Trump's team argues will open the door
- 51:32to further Republican gains. Democrats have ended in so many
- 51:38other states for so long. John Fredericks, a pro Trump
- 51:42talk radio host who campaigned against the Virginia maps, said
- 51:46in an interview, adding, it's now all our partisan war.
- 51:51Best we fully engage now and get in the game.
- 51:56Democrats win in Virginia ramps up the pressure on Florida
- 51:59to delcounter punch, but GEOP gains there may be more
- 52:04modest than Trump's team hoped. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, Republican,
- 52:09is working on a proposed redraw of the host map
- 52:12that could result in one to three more Republican districts,
- 52:16according to a person familiar with the conversations also spoke
- 52:20on the condition of anonymity to describe private planning. Some
- 52:25Republicans had previously floated a four or five seat pick up,
- 52:29and right wing influences on Wednesday continued to suggest that
- 52:33was a possible as a way to count Virginia. Others
- 52:38were that such an aggressive effort would jeopardize other districts
- 52:41in a tough election year and make redistresting more vulnerable
- 52:46to court challenges. Leaders in the Florida House have said
- 52:50they will pass whatever map the governor produces, The person added,
- 52:55another person familiar with the redistricting discussions, said the state
- 53:00seems resigned to passing to santiss plan, assuming the White
- 53:06House doesn't have a concern about whatever the governor comes
- 53:09up with. Katie Betta, a spokesperson for the Florida Senate,
- 53:15said lawmakers expect the governor's office will share its proposal
- 53:19by the end of the week. Historically, state legislatures redraw
- 53:25congressional maps once a decade, following the tenure census. Last year,
- 53:31Blair argued that Republicans could improve their footing in the
- 53:34midterms by drawing fresh maps in GOP controlled states, arguing
- 53:40that the twenty twenty census overcounted several blue states and
- 53:44undercounted red states like Florida and Texas. Blair, whose nickname
- 53:49from Trump is Brilliant James, became so strongly identified with
- 53:54the mid decade redistricting campaign that it's sometimes called Blair May.
- 54:02There has been a race to the bottom, but only
- 54:04on one side, the senior member of Trump's political team said, adding,
- 54:10what we said out to do was say we're not
- 54:12going to take that anymore. At Trump's instigation, republic Texas
- 54:19Republicans passed a new map designed to put five more
- 54:23seats into GOP hands. California Governor Gavin Newsom, Democrat, responded
- 54:28with a ballot initiative to redraw that state's lands for
- 54:32five more Democratic seats, with more than one hundred and
- 54:36twenty nine million dollars spent in favor against thirty five
- 54:40million against. Republicans picked up another likely seat in Ohio
- 54:46and made a second one riter They added two more
- 54:49seats in Missouri and North Carolina, bringing the total to eight.
- 54:53But in Indiana, Republican state senators bunked bucked Trump, and
- 54:59refused to adopt that would have eliminated the state's two
- 55:03Democratic held US host seats. Trump's team voy to punish
- 55:08the Republican state senators who voted no in the state's
- 55:13primary on May fifth. Trump has endorsed challenges for eight
- 55:18of those lawmakers, and his political operation expects to win
- 55:22at least four of those races. The challengers received financial
- 55:28support from allies, including Indiana Governor Mike Baum, Senator Jim Banks,
- 55:35Republican of Indiana, and the Club for Growth, but not
- 55:40Trump's flagship super.
- 55:42Speaker 2: Pac MAGA Inc.
- 55:45Speaker 1: Maryland Governor Wesmore Democrat proposed a map that would have
- 55:49eliminated his states one Republican held seat, but the state
- 55:54Senate leader, also a Democrat, refused to go along with
- 55:57the plan, arguing that it would backfire and court, and
- 56:00that cherry mandering was unhealthy for democracy.
- 56:04Speaker 2: If you're going to pick a fight, at least win it.
- 56:07Speaker 1: Aery Fleischer, White House Press Secretary for George W. Bush
- 56:11said on X the other so I will always fight back.
- 56:16All this was foreseeable and avoidable. We should not have
- 56:19started this fight. Trumpet viser Chris Sibizo Karl Fleischer's post.
- 56:26Speaker 2: Old land thinking.
- 56:28Speaker 1: Wait to get attacked. We don't operate that way. We
- 56:31initiate contact. Virginia Houst minority leader Terry Kilgore, Republicans said
- 56:38National Republicans should have provided more resources. Democrats raised at
- 56:43least sixty five million dollars to support the state's redistricting referendum,
- 56:49versus about thirty three million dollar raised by the opposition.
- 56:53The reprimendum passed with about fifty one point five percent.
- 56:57As the tally was still being finalized. Insteat for ten
- 57:02million or twenty million more dollars, we could have been
- 57:05in play. We were able to bring this close without money.
- 57:11Kilgore said Republicans took some encouragement from the narrower result
- 57:16in the state that Kamala Harris won by five point
- 57:18eight points in twenty twenty four. Blair argued on CNN
- 57:23that if Republicans performed it quivalently in November, they could
- 57:28keep the hosts. The senior member of Trump's political team
- 57:33also said primarily voting data showed the referendum prevailed. Preliminary
- 57:41voting data showed the referendum prevailed by less than a
- 57:45point in three of the new left winning districts and
- 57:48failed by less than a point in the fourth, suggesting
- 57:51the new districts are not safe for Democrats Virginia Democrats.
- 57:57Speaker 2: Can't redraw reality.
- 58:00Speaker 1: Said Representative Richard Harris, Republican of North Carolina, chairman of
- 58:05the host go p's campaign ORN, which did not spend
- 58:08money against the referendum. Adding, Hudson said this close margin
- 58:14reinforces that Virginia is a purple state that shouldn't be
- 58:17represented by a severe partisan gerrymander.
- 58:21Speaker 2: And with that our.
- 58:22Speaker 1: Close to day's reading of the Washington Post. Please continue
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