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M and M EXTRA: June 22, 2026 | Israeli War Interests | Weekend Movies | High Tech Car Rental | · The M&M Experience

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a meeting of the minds crafted from decades
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Speaker 1: of talk show experience, an extension of the magic they've
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Speaker 1: created together on radio in the phenomenon called M and
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Speaker 1: M Hot Topics in the News and Wisdom from Light.
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Speaker 1: It's Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is eminem extra
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Speaker 1: that it.
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Speaker 2: Is for a Monday, for this June twenty second, twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty six. I'm one of the m's Mark Davis. The
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Speaker 2: other M is Mike Gallagher. And like a little bit
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Speaker 2: of momentary delay on the stream, which is fine, Which
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Speaker 2: means that even the golden glitch where you badgered me
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Speaker 2: for saying, hey, I'll talk first, went unnoticed, forever lost
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Speaker 2: in the vault of undiscovered moments.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, I'll bring it. I'll open the vault again.
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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's adorable. I think it's
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Speaker 3: so cute how you always want to go first. I'll
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Speaker 3: go I'll go first, I'll go first.
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Speaker 2: Not true. Just all I want is an understanding of
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Speaker 2: Hugo's first, so that we don't talk over each other.
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Speaker 3: As I recall, you went first Friday, have been my
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Speaker 3: turn to go here?
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Speaker 2: Right even number day as odd number days, I don't know. Okay,
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Speaker 2: we'll just go there, just go just whatever you want
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Speaker 2: to do.
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Speaker 3: You can go every time. I don't care. I don't,
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Speaker 3: I don't want to do it. I am vice president
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Speaker 3: of the Happy to Be Here Club.
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Speaker 2: Let's tell you what. You're the president.
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Speaker 3: You're the president. That's right. The president goes before the vice.
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Speaker 2: The hierarchy of the Happy to Be Here Club. I am.
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Speaker 3: I am exactly right, happy believe in Father's Day. Hope
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Speaker 3: you had time to spend.
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Speaker 2: With Absolutely did. We had a wonderful time. Went to
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Speaker 2: well all the kids lived and sprawled out locations, but
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Speaker 2: we were in a room with a lot of kids.
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Speaker 2: It was other people's kids. For Toy Story five. Oh,
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Speaker 2: I got badgered. I said Toy Story five best movie
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Speaker 2: of the year, and I was instantly lit up on
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Speaker 2: the text line, Hey sci fi boy, did you forget
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Speaker 2: project Hail Mary? I didn't, of course, that was wonderful.
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Speaker 2: You hated it, sorry about that, but I did love it.
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Speaker 2: But Toy Story five was just so joyful, so great,
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Speaker 2: no politics, just beautifully written, beautifully done. It was just
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Speaker 2: a beautiful piece of filmmaking. If you just want to
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Speaker 2: feel good and laugh and cry in the same hour
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Speaker 2: and a half toy story five masterpiece.
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Speaker 3: See this is a great metaphor for the way my
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Speaker 3: family compares to the Davis family. So the Davis is
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Speaker 3: they're They're like the leave it to Beaver family. It's
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Speaker 3: like the Brady Bunch. They're off going to see a wholesome, healthy, wonderlifting, joyful,
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Speaker 3: no politics to the Gallas. The Gallaghers went and saw
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Speaker 3: a horror movie called Obsession with blood and gore and
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Speaker 3: a crazed, lunatic stalker girlfriend. I mean, it's a dark movie.
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Speaker 3: The kids, and I'm telling you it's a metaphor the
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Speaker 3: kids that we got dad. We got to see Obsession.
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Speaker 3: So I'm with the kids in Minnesota over the weekend
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Speaker 3: and we had a lot of great time together, and
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Speaker 3: then we went and saw this movie that scared the
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Speaker 3: living daylights out there.
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Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to ask. Is my understanding just
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Speaker 2: from seeing the trailer is it's a premise as old
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Speaker 2: as time. A guy an unrequited love, a guy really
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Speaker 2: wants a girl to like him and runs across some metaphysical,
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Speaker 2: supernatural voodoo way to get the girl to like him,
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Speaker 2: and the dream comes true. BOYD does it so she
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Speaker 2: loves him. All right, that's no spoilers, but apparently it
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Speaker 2: does not go well. But the ultimate drop dead question,
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Speaker 2: no pun intended, is was it good as creepy and
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Speaker 2: weird and horrible as it was? Was it well done?
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Speaker 2: Was it a well spent in the theatre?
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Speaker 3: Very well well done and good? But but just be prepared.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's an hour and a half or two hours.
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Speaker 3: It's scary and intense and there's some of the most
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Speaker 3: violent things that I have ever oh man. But it's
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Speaker 3: but and it'll stay with you. But it's the performances
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Speaker 3: and you know your rule about do I care about
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Speaker 3: the character?
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Speaker 2: Did you care?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? And it's and it's one of those feel good
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Speaker 3: stories about movie making. Apparently the people who made it
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Speaker 3: right out of like film school, out of college, and
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Speaker 3: they made it like for a buck. I mean, now,
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Speaker 3: relatively speaking, it was byparently a million dollar budget, but
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Speaker 3: now it's gross tens of millions of dollars already. It's
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Speaker 3: a big hit. So they're right out of the gate
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Speaker 3: with a with a big, big smash on their hands
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Speaker 3: called Obsession. But again, it is a hard R rated movie.
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Speaker 3: Be ready.
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Speaker 2: So this notion of because there was that and back Rooms,
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Speaker 2: which is apparently like a tranquilizer dart to the neck
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Speaker 2: if you're over thirty. It's one of these subtle, weird things.
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Speaker 2: And I'm a big fan of movies where weird, inexplicable
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Speaker 2: things happened, but this one is just apparently just I
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Speaker 2: don't know that there's there's a genre of whispering films
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Speaker 2: these days. It's just weird things that the entire movie
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Speaker 2: takes place at roughly this level. And strange thing. Oh,
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Speaker 2: something else weird happened. Oh where'd this room come from?
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Speaker 2: An hour and a half later, it apparently had some merit.
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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet. I probably will. I don't know,
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Speaker 2: but it's called Background, and it came out the same weekend,
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Speaker 2: I guess, okay. And the whole premise was these are
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Speaker 2: films made for a pittance that have raked in hundreds
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Speaker 2: of millions of dollars. Do you know the name, uh,
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Speaker 2: Sam Levinson. He's the guy, and I have not consumed
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Speaker 2: one bit of euphoria. The thing was Zendia and the
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Speaker 2: other it's a big HBO thing, three seasons, all the rage.
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Speaker 2: So Sam sam Levinson is the acclaimed director show runner
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Speaker 2: Guy Brainschild behind that he was the upfront guest on
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Speaker 2: Bill mart and Bill asked him, how do you, as
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Speaker 2: a Hollywood big name feel about these people making movies
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Speaker 2: for pocket change that are raking in huge dollars? And
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Speaker 2: he said, I love it. I love it. The future
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Speaker 2: of storytelling is bright. Not everything has to be a
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Speaker 2: billions of dollar blockbuster. And I kind of do too.
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Speaker 2: It's the this user friendly everything online Spotify versus radio
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Speaker 2: station program directors determining what's big in music. Most of
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Speaker 2: today's music is crap. There is that, but if people
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Speaker 2: are finding what they want, you know, what could what
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Speaker 2: could be wrong with that in the marketplace?
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Speaker 3: Well, and before we get to Iran and the reflecting
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Speaker 3: pool and the state of the affairs in politic and
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Speaker 3: the body politic. Big news in your world because you're
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Speaker 3: a big music fan and you always do musical birthdays,
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Speaker 3: and you know bands like the back of your hand.
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Speaker 3: And I'm always always impressed with your your your encyclopedic
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Speaker 3: knowledge of music. And Clive Davis passed away at the
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Speaker 3: age of ninety four. What he passed away at his
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Speaker 3: home in Manhattan. What a what a legend? I mean,
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Speaker 3: this is a guy anybody who's anybody I think passed
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Speaker 3: through Clive Davis's.
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Speaker 2: Officigo Aerosmith, Barry Men. I mean, it just just exactly
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Speaker 2: just he signed so many acts there at Columbia and
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Speaker 2: other places. Just one of the real titans of You know,
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Speaker 2: it's kind of funny. This kind of ties back to
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Speaker 2: what you were just talking about, was it a I
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Speaker 2: will tell you that music was way better when executives
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Speaker 2: and radio station music program directors kind of determined what
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Speaker 2: we heard. I know that we were denied all kinds
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Speaker 2: of acts that we might otherwise have heard. But today's
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Speaker 2: music is garbage when it's seen through the lenses of
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Speaker 2: these record company executives and radio executives. We were fairly
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Speaker 2: well assured that there would be some level of quality
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Speaker 2: to what we got. Not anymore so. God rest Clive Davis.
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Speaker 3: But do you sound like a boomer when you say that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sure the people that are engaged in the
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Speaker 3: music now love it and they think this is their
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Speaker 3: golden era.
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Speaker 2: We thought, what, oh, yeah, fifty years from now we'll
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Speaker 2: be talking about dua lipa. Yeah, fifty years from now,
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Speaker 2: people will be uh.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm also intrigued by the role of AI in
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Speaker 3: the whole music and even television film business. One of
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Speaker 3: my Little Guilty Player is a sappy, stupid little series
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Speaker 3: starring Lisa Koudro called The Comeback On.
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Speaker 2: I think it's I've heard what I've seen her interviewed
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Speaker 2: a bunch. Maybe it's because of did we just wrap
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Speaker 2: up a season of that or the end of that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Well I think they've got a new and
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Speaker 3: I'm I don't know where I I mean, I'm watching
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Speaker 3: it now. But but there's a she's a sitcom actress
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Speaker 3: in the in the series, and she's kind of a
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Speaker 3: kind of a airhead and she's a little bit of
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Speaker 3: a dig bat. I love her. She's but she's got
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Speaker 3: this character down. But the plotline intrigues me because, unbeknownst
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Speaker 3: to the cast and crew, all the scripts for every one,
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Speaker 3: every week of the sitcom are being written by AI.
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Speaker 3: And they call and they call him al because because
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Speaker 3: they don't want the cast to know that AI is
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Speaker 3: pumping out the scripts and she knows, and like the
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Speaker 3: the movies or the TV head of this company knows,
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Speaker 3: but they don't want anybody to know. But everybody kind
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Speaker 3: of knows, but it really is a real world, real
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Speaker 3: life dilemma because what they're what they're pointing out is
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Speaker 3: AI is spitting out like for jokes that are told
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Speaker 3: on a sitcom, for one scene, AI will spit out
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Speaker 3: eighteen or twenty good jokes that you could choose from
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Speaker 3: in the split second.
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Speaker 2: But then they'll be good, Okay, we'll finish your sentence
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Speaker 2: the well.
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Speaker 3: But then the pushback from the writers is you got
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Speaker 3: to be in the writing process. You've got to have
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Speaker 3: you got to fight with your heart and your soul
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Speaker 3: for this joke over another one, and you all got
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Speaker 3: to be each other's throats. That's the way it works
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Speaker 3: in the writer's room. You can't you can't just just
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Speaker 3: channel this through AI. It won't be the same. But
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Speaker 3: doesn't that mirror the real AI argument that we're all
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Speaker 3: having about just about every walk of life, every aspect
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Speaker 3: of life.
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Speaker 2: And there's their lists being compiled, and these lists will change.
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Speaker 2: The lists are things AI is amazingly good at, things
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Speaker 2: like the graphics for this show. Lisa went, hey, let's
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Speaker 2: do this by bride, Lisa, Let's do this, let's do that,
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Speaker 2: this color or hear the pictures and boom. That's the
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Speaker 2: M and M extra logo. A I did it. It's
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Speaker 2: fantastic crafting posters things ideas. I mean mede occasional snippet
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Speaker 2: of an idea. AI will write a song and it
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Speaker 2: will be good, an actual song, and perform it and
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Speaker 2: it will be good. Comedy for right now is on
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Speaker 2: the list of things where AI sucks. AI is not funny.
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Speaker 2: It does not have the inherent yet inherent human gift
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Speaker 2: for real comedy of other people say that I asked
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Speaker 2: it for something, just some little reference to something that was.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to sort of make some clever point or
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Speaker 2: something like that. Oh it was. It was a total fail.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it'll be better by next week the way AI goes.
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Speaker 2: But and I understand and respect the premise of the show,
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Speaker 2: and I really want to watch it. Lovely Secudro. It's
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Speaker 2: called the Comeback. You say it's a great subject. I
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Speaker 2: don't know if it is a real thing yet, that
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Speaker 2: AI can write, can write comedy, can write quality comedy,
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I spent a lot of quality time with my adult
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Speaker 3: kids over the week, and my adult sons, and they they,
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Speaker 3: first of all, they have disdain for just about anything
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Speaker 3: social media related. They hate it. They're afraid of it.
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Speaker 3: Not afraid of it, but they just they're disgusted by it.
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Speaker 3: And but one of my sons is pretty plugged into
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Speaker 3: a lot of it. But both but both of them
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Speaker 3: had this disdain for what AI is going to take America,
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Speaker 3: what path we're going to go down. There's nothing good
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Speaker 3: about it from their perspective, there's nothing positive about it.
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Speaker 3: And and as I told them, look, the the counter
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Speaker 3: argument to that is, you know, get on board or
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Speaker 3: get out of the way, because it's coming. There's no
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Speaker 3: stopping it. And and but but they really reject that.
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Speaker 3: And they said, well, we could, we could stop it,
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Speaker 3: We should stop it. We ought to stop it, we ought,
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Speaker 3: we ought to know it.
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Speaker 2: And precisely, how does it get stopped?
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Speaker 3: Good luck, good luck with that.
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Speaker 2: There's no there's no machine to unplug, there's no and
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Speaker 2: to hit it, says escape. No, this thing is underway
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Speaker 2: and you're really right there to there, and you can
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Speaker 2: dread it or embrace it, but you better be ready
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Speaker 2: for it.
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Speaker 3: Is there a way to put guardrails around artificial intelligence?
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Speaker 3: Is there's a way to protect kids? Is there a
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Speaker 3: way we always talk about we go back to this
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Speaker 3: ban that we talked about the other day. Over in
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Speaker 3: the UK, they're banning social media to anyone under the
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Speaker 3: age of sixteen. Do you do that?
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Speaker 4: Why?
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Speaker 2: I don't think you can and I don't think you should.
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Speaker 2: That is government doing the parenting for you, which I
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Speaker 2: instantly despised. While they'll understand a number of parents going yeah,
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Speaker 2: thank goodness.
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Speaker 3: I mean, but then wouldn't you say that about AI?
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Speaker 3: Do you want government to put guardrails up around AI
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Speaker 3: or not?
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Speaker 2: Not that are not that are age based. Sometimes there
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Speaker 2: are things that are just societally based, some things where
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Speaker 2: we say, hey, there's some things we're just not going
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Speaker 2: to let.
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Speaker 3: It do well. And there may be a tipping point.
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I get this pushback every day from
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Speaker 3: people saying that it's taking us down a terrible, terrible direction. Look,
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Speaker 3: jobs are being wiped out now as we speak. Yep,
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Speaker 3: I told you about you know, going to Wendy's. Now
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Speaker 3: there's no drive through person at the Wendy's anymore. You
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Speaker 3: go to Wendy's, they got an AI board that's very efficient.
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Speaker 3: You can hear the voice clearly. It repeats your order back,
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Speaker 3: it speaks English. It speaks perfect English. You drive up
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Speaker 3: to the window, the food's waiting for you. I told
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Speaker 3: you about my Hurtz rental car experience. They're using AI now,
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Speaker 3: utilizing a technology where they're looking at your vehicle. You
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Speaker 3: drive through basically a giant detector that takes a video
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Speaker 3: of or a picture of your car, and then when
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Speaker 3: you return it, you drive through the same thing. And
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Speaker 3: I got dinged over the weekend because I had two
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Speaker 3: dings on the car from which.
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Speaker 2: Just kills me. Because you did tell that story, and
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Speaker 2: I think a few months ago when you that this
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Speaker 2: is not the first time you've experienced that, right.
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Speaker 3: Well, the last time I experienced it was wrong. The
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Speaker 3: last time it had damage that I would do. And
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Speaker 3: I pushed back, And as soon as I pushed back,
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Speaker 3: they said, oh, okay, don't worry, don't You're not responsible.
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Speaker 2: How did you? How did you? For those that don't
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Speaker 2: know you rent a car these days and at the
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Speaker 2: particularly twenty first century of airports, and I had it
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Speaker 2: happened once to me in San Antonio was the only
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Speaker 2: place I had it happened. I don't know if they
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Speaker 2: got them a df W go figure that maybe they do.
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Speaker 2: I will If they don't, they soon Will you rent
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Speaker 2: your car? And when you when you are on the
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Speaker 2: way out, you drive through this little arch and the
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Speaker 2: lights go on and it takes AI mapping every molly,
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Speaker 2: every inch of the car is being you come back.
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Speaker 2: When you come back, it compares A versus B and
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Speaker 2: if there's anything different, it's your ass. Excuse me?
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Speaker 3: Uh and so and it was as and there was
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Speaker 3: a hailstorm, which first of all, I was like a storm,
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Speaker 3: it's a hail is not your fault.
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Speaker 2: Hail is not your fault if you dang a fire
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Speaker 2: hyde and I get it, But hail is your responsibility.
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Speaker 3: What are you supposed to do? Well, you got to
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Speaker 3: pay for the damages? No, I mean or have or
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Speaker 3: have insurance enough insurance that it's covered. And what offers
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Speaker 3: is extra insurance that I guess I could have bought.
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Speaker 3: I always just keep you know, my personal auto insurance
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Speaker 3: covers rental cars. I'm not going to I'm not going
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Speaker 3: to turn in a claim for two hailed dings. And
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Speaker 3: and I talk about AI. I went right to Chad,
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Speaker 3: GPT and groc. If there's a hailstorm and your rental
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Speaker 3: car is damaged, is it your responsibility. It absolutely is
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Speaker 3: your responsibility.
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Speaker 2: You can't say here that you feel I don't know
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Speaker 2: if you feel compelled to do it now. But if
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Speaker 2: you had bought the rental car companies no protection plan,
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Speaker 2: they would have waved it off.
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Speaker 3: No, because the charge for the two hailstorm dings that
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Speaker 3: I had on the rental car was two hundred dollars.
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Speaker 3: They want to charge me like, I think, fifty sixty
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Speaker 3: bucks a day for their own insurance.
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Speaker 2: It probably would rolling the dice. When you're going to
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Speaker 2: roll the dice, you're rolling the dice.
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Speaker 3: But but it's an example of AI and how perfect
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Speaker 3: it kind of is, like it shows you on the
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Speaker 3: the invoys they sent me for the two hundred dollars,
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Speaker 3: there was already pre existing damage and I knew where
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Speaker 3: that was on the bumper and they had that circled.
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Speaker 3: But then the two hail dings, they said, here's the
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Speaker 3: one on your on the roof, here's the one on
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Speaker 3: the hood, and you owe two hundred and eleven dollars.
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Speaker 3: Mister Gallagher, how do you want to handle this?
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Speaker 2: And a racket?
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Speaker 3: And I go and I signed off, and I signed
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Speaker 3: off on it. I thought, well, you know it is true.
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Speaker 3: It is kind of It is my responsibility, and I'd
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Speaker 3: rather pay the two hundred and eleven dollars and call
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Speaker 3: it a day. Do you say it's a racket.
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Speaker 2: I get it's a it's a racket. They they're they're
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Speaker 2: trying to hold you hostage to get their protection plan
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Speaker 2: that they make a massive profit off of. I get.
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Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's not your fault. Sometimes stuff just happens.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's hail.
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Speaker 3: Much somebody's got to pay for it. Who's going to
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Speaker 3: pay for it? Kurts, It's not it's not their fault.
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Speaker 3: I'm the woman, I mean nobody. It's certainly not yours.
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Speaker 3: And if I'm the company making squillions of dollars off
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Speaker 3: of wonderful customers like you, I'm gonna suck up the
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Speaker 3: occasional hailstorm and make it my problem.
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Speaker 2: Tell I know I'm living.
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Speaker 1: Going to do that.
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Speaker 3: You're you're you're acting like companies are altruistic. Look, the
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Speaker 3: car got hit by lightning and the car was totaled.
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Speaker 3: You think you're off the hook. You know you'd have
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Speaker 3: to be responsible for it would be your insurance that
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Speaker 3: would have to cover the damage. You know, you're not
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Speaker 3: off the just again, somebody's got to replace the car.
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Speaker 3: And and and you think herts is gonna say, well,
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Speaker 3: we're gonna be good guys here, We're gonna be.
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Speaker 2: Come on, you know what. Okay, this is going to
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Speaker 2: be brutal. I bet it's it's their car. It's their car,
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Speaker 2: it's their problem just because you have rented it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: just because you have rented it for the day doesn't
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Speaker 2: make all of that. So even the car destroyed again
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Speaker 2: by lightning, their problem. I'm I'm sticking with it. I'm
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Speaker 2: sticking That's definitely unrealistic. I know, I'm so cute.
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Speaker 3: Earth logic is. I know, whether you get hit by
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Speaker 3: a drunk driver, you get hit by a bowl of lightning,
18:11
Speaker 3: you get hit by hail, you've rented the car and
18:14
Speaker 3: responsibility and it's just either have enough insurance to cover
18:17
Speaker 3: it all and by the extra protections I get. All right,
18:20
Speaker 3: let's let's get down to a couple of headlines. I
18:23
Speaker 3: want to bounce off of you. I don't know if
18:25
Speaker 3: you heard this. This kind of broke toward the end
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Speaker 3: of my show earlier today. There's a five part series
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Speaker 3: coming out on Netflix that was executive produced by Tom Hanks,
18:36
Speaker 3: called The American Experiment. It's a new Netflix docu series
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Speaker 3: that's going to debut later this week. Well, Variety magazine
18:45
Speaker 3: got a sneak peek in it. There's a clip of
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Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton calling the electoral college system in America an abomination.
18:56
Speaker 3: She said, well, I personally think the electoral college is
19:00
Speaker 3: an abomination. Now, what she's saying is the founding fathers
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Speaker 3: were idiots that they didn't know, They didn't have a clue.
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Speaker 3: I mean when you think of the brilliance of the
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Speaker 3: electoral college versus the popular vote. Because the truth is
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Speaker 3: LA and Dallas and you know, New York City don't
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Speaker 3: get to determine the outcome of national elections, exactly, right,
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Speaker 3: that's all it is.
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Speaker 2: And there's a constituency, there's an interest, there's a vital
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Speaker 2: voting interest for some of the more sparsely populated areas
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Speaker 2: of the country, exactly.
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Speaker 3: But because she lost the electoral college vote thanks to Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,
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Speaker 3: and she won the popular vote, so she's clearly bitter.
19:45
Speaker 3: But think about this, all right, she has I guess
19:48
Speaker 3: you know, she's popping off. She's mad, she's a bitter
19:50
Speaker 3: old woman. What are you gonna do? What are you
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Speaker 3: gonna do? But for Tom Hanks and Netflix to have
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Speaker 3: a five part series that is a about America's founding.
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Speaker 3: It's about the found it's about the history. This is
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Speaker 3: part of the two hundred and fiftieth celebration.
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Speaker 2: This is it? I mean, do we know that? That's
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Speaker 2: the point? I mean, there's obviously the timing the American
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Speaker 2: Experiment July fourth, next month. When does it air? Do
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Speaker 2: we know that?
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Speaker 3: Four? Well, here's how it's described. The American Experiment is
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Speaker 3: described as a five part docuentries examining the history and
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Speaker 3: structure of America through its founding, and includes interviews with
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Speaker 3: dozens of politicians and historians, including Hillary Kamala, Mike Pence,
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Speaker 3: Ted Cruz al Gore, and Nancy Pelosi and the project.
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Speaker 2: In the project that doesn't seem like balance to me.
20:45
Speaker 2: Could we have another conservative or two in there, please?
20:48
Speaker 3: Well? And Zoe Lofgren from California claims in the documentary
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Speaker 3: the founders themselves were not in love with the Electoral College.
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Speaker 3: It was defective from the beginning. What Zoe, would you do?
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Speaker 3: Take a time to get into time capital and go
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Speaker 3: back and talk to the founding fathers.
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Speaker 2: What does that mean they weren't in love with it?
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Speaker 2: Was there debate over it?
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Speaker 3: Sure there was?
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Speaker 2: And the right side one in sixty seconds. If there's
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Speaker 2: anybody driving around glued to a screen or consuming us
21:18
Speaker 2: in any way, and you got this thing in your
21:21
Speaker 2: head and I had this for a while when I
21:22
Speaker 2: was thirteen, maybe that says, hey, should the person who
21:26
Speaker 2: got the most votes won? What's wrong with that? Here's
21:30
Speaker 2: the deal. The President of the United States was never, repeat,
21:36
Speaker 2: never designed to be everybody's one person, one vote, direct representative.
21:41
Speaker 2: Never that's your member of Congress. We didn't even do
21:44
Speaker 2: the Senate that way when the country was born, and
21:46
Speaker 2: we probably were wrong to change that. The President of
21:49
Speaker 2: the United States is the CEO of this huge federation
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Speaker 2: of states, a union made up of individual states, and
21:58
Speaker 2: that means California gets to and it means Wyoming gets
22:02
Speaker 2: a say, Wyoming doesn't get as big as, say as California,
22:05
Speaker 2: but they have some mitigating thing that prevents the tyranny
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Speaker 2: of the majority and prevents LA and New York from
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Speaker 2: electing every president. Presidency was never ever meant to be
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Speaker 2: a one man, one vote representative like your congressman was.
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Speaker 3: And if you and if you doubt that, look at
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Speaker 3: maps when they put them in red or blue, and
22:27
Speaker 3: for every election, it's a sea of red election after election.
22:32
Speaker 3: And the Democrats hate this because they know it's true.
22:36
Speaker 3: The only chance they've got is if they can abolish
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Speaker 3: the electoral college, which they will try to do if
22:42
Speaker 3: they get the majority. They will do everything they can
22:45
Speaker 3: to stack this. They'll they'll pack the court, they'll add
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Speaker 3: Puerto Rico and DC as states. They'll do everything they
22:51
Speaker 3: can to abolish the electoral college because they want la
22:58
Speaker 3: to decide outcomes. Because they know that these big American
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Speaker 3: cities are largely Democrat majority cities.
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Speaker 2: You know what governors are going to do. Didn't Abigail
23:06
Speaker 2: Spamberger in Virginia didn't she sign? Did she sign something?
23:09
Speaker 2: What's the status of this? I'll look because this has
23:12
Speaker 2: gotta be so states get to determine the manner of elections, right,
23:17
Speaker 2: states get to determine them. Well, guess what some states
23:20
Speaker 2: are gonna do. Governor Spamberg in Virginia has said, imagine
23:24
Speaker 2: how you'd feel as a Virginia voter if you live
23:26
Speaker 2: in Virginia that whoever wins the popular vote, the national
23:31
Speaker 2: popular vote will get Virginia's electoral votes. Follow that that,
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Speaker 2: it's not about what the voters of Virginia say or
23:38
Speaker 2: do anymore. It will be a mirror, a touchstone, a
23:42
Speaker 2: mirror of whatever of the country says. What an abandonment
23:46
Speaker 2: of Virginia's response, of Virginia's right and responsibility to have
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Speaker 3: everybody's got a bad taste in their mouths, bad feelings
26:14
Speaker 3: all around after the Iran deal JD vance is promising.
26:18
Speaker 3: Progress was made, but there is this strange dynamic of
26:23
Speaker 3: the again the role of Israel and you and I
26:25
Speaker 3: are an agreement that that Israel must be protected. They
26:32
Speaker 3: are our staunch ally but it's okay to question the
26:36
Speaker 3: role of Israel and our foreign policy. There's nothing wrong
26:38
Speaker 3: with that. Here's Mark Levin last night on Life Liberty
26:42
Speaker 3: and Levin on Fox News blasting the Trump administration for
26:47
Speaker 3: what he puts the way he puts it, bullying or
26:51
Speaker 3: smearing Israel.
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Speaker 5: I'm going to start the program where I'd rather not start,
26:55
Speaker 5: but I must. I want to say to people in
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Speaker 5: and out of the administration, stop trashing, smearing, bullying the
27:09
Speaker 5: little state of Israel.
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Speaker 4: Stop closing up to and telling us.
27:16
Speaker 5: That the enemy regime in Iran is now more rational,
27:19
Speaker 5: more moderate, and a regime that we can deal with,
27:24
Speaker 5: when just a few months ago they slaughtered fifty thousand people,
27:27
Speaker 5: They're still hanging young people today, and if they had
27:30
Speaker 5: a nuclear missile today, they fired into our country. As
27:33
Speaker 5: sure as I'm alive, I don't know what's going on,
27:38
Speaker 5: but if people think they can bully a little country,
27:42
Speaker 5: really a people that have existed four thousand years, through
27:46
Speaker 5: the Babylonians and the Persians, through the Romans and the
27:51
Speaker 5: Third Reich, and just surrendering their defense and their decision
27:54
Speaker 5: on how to secure their country.
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Speaker 4: They got another thing coming. I think it's out.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 5: We used to see the Secretary of War and the
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Speaker 5: head of the Joint chiefs of Staff, Daly here on
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Speaker 5: Fox tell us the fantastic marriage symmetry between our militaries
28:13
Speaker 5: and defeating this enemy.
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Speaker 4: I'm really appalled by.
28:18
Speaker 5: This, and I hope it comes to an end sooner
28:21
Speaker 5: than later, because it's not right, it's not just, and
28:24
Speaker 5: it's not truthful.
28:26
Speaker 3: Now we both love Mark Levin, but I gotta do
28:29
Speaker 3: your response to that model Walkmark.
28:32
Speaker 2: Okay. I do love Levin, and his source material is
28:37
Speaker 2: not wrong. The things on which he bases all of that,
28:40
Speaker 2: he's certainly not mistaken. Where the fork in the road comes.
28:45
Speaker 2: Is anybody willing to think that maybe a transformation in
28:49
Speaker 2: the Middle East is possible, that the beginning steps of
28:52
Speaker 2: that are in any way achievable. I don't know. I
28:56
Speaker 2: don't pretend to know, and I certainly don't guarantee it
28:59
Speaker 2: is it worth doing. I believe it is. Mark Levin
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Speaker 2: does not. A lot of people don't. And here's the
29:07
Speaker 2: problem that I have with the way that was delivered.
29:10
Speaker 2: If somebody is sitting there going, oh lord, it's Ira,
29:12
Speaker 2: and we can't trust them. This just doesn't have a
29:15
Speaker 2: high likelihood of success. I don't think they've changed their stripes. Okay,
29:19
Speaker 2: But this notion that he's coming this close to calling
29:23
Speaker 2: it anti Semitic, that it's bullying Israel to say that
29:28
Speaker 2: Israel's continued engagement with Lebanon right now, this week, while
29:33
Speaker 2: we're trying to do something in Switzerland, might not be
29:35
Speaker 2: the most helpful thing in the world. That that's somehow
29:38
Speaker 2: Jew hating man. That's problematic, and we got to find
29:42
Speaker 2: a way to navigate this with more nuance.
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Speaker 3: Well, i'd use another word. I mean, and I don't
29:48
Speaker 3: think Mark Levin is a bully, but there is a
29:50
Speaker 3: form of bullying, and there is a form of bullying
29:53
Speaker 3: that leads to somebody saying you're a Jew hater if
29:56
Speaker 3: you look sideways at Israel, if you've got any doubts
29:59
Speaker 3: about Israel's role in our foreign policy, well then you're
30:02
Speaker 3: an anti Semite. And that's a form Mark. Is that
30:06
Speaker 3: not a form of No, it's not.
30:08
Speaker 2: I'm going to phraseology you've used twice, which it was
30:11
Speaker 2: also not wrong this moment in time. Does it involve
30:16
Speaker 2: the kind of questioning Israel's role in American foreign policy.
30:21
Speaker 2: That sounds like a very sweeping thing, because find me
30:23
Speaker 2: ten people who do question Israel's role in American foreign policy.
30:28
Speaker 2: Six to seven number probably are anti Semites, because that's
30:30
Speaker 2: kind of a well a question the role. Sure you do,
30:32
Speaker 2: this is just a moment. I don't question their role
30:35
Speaker 2: in America. Israel should play a key role in how
30:38
Speaker 2: we I don't mean telling us what to do, but
30:41
Speaker 2: they should be a key factor in our Mid East policy,
30:43
Speaker 2: our security policy, our partnerships in the Middle East. I'm
30:46
Speaker 2: not looking to erode that a bit. This is just
30:48
Speaker 2: one chapter, a really important chapter where maybe we need
30:52
Speaker 2: to recognize that the ven diagrams of American and Israeli
30:55
Speaker 2: interest may not completely converge, and there may be some disagreements.
31:00
Speaker 2: You might have some things we might ask them to do,
31:03
Speaker 2: and that's not bullying them or beating them up. I
31:08
Speaker 2: don't know what's driving some people. I don't know what's
31:09
Speaker 2: driving some people. I just don't.
31:11
Speaker 3: It's tough, it's really tough. I want to close today's
31:14
Speaker 3: podcast with a very prophetic comment from one of our
31:18
Speaker 3: live chatters, because you know how much I love live chattering.
31:22
Speaker 3: I love the I mean somebody wrote the dynamic duo
31:25
Speaker 3: Baby Mark and Mike. But here's my favorite comment. The
31:28
Speaker 3: founding fathers were also into duels. We need to bring
31:31
Speaker 3: those back. Yes, I like it. I like take twenty steps.
31:36
Speaker 3: I mean, it didn't work out so well for Alexander Hamilton.
31:39
Speaker 3: Aaron Burr am I Alexander Hamilton. I would be Hamilton.
31:43
Speaker 3: You'd better right between these?
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Speaker 2: Is crazy, isn't it? Because I think about one of
31:47
Speaker 2: the things that I'm fascinated about with history. I don't
31:50
Speaker 2: believe you can go not so very far back in
31:52
Speaker 2: history and find people doing horrible things like the Holocaust,
31:55
Speaker 2: horrible things like slavery, horrible things like women can't vote.
31:59
Speaker 2: It seems horrible to do. Now, is how in the
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Speaker 2: world could we have ever do not? And that's that's
32:04
Speaker 2: kind of one of them. That's how they.
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Speaker 3: Do, that's how they resolve things.
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 3: It's like a big I mean, here's time, here's here's
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Speaker 3: the story of Alexander Hamilton, which was you know, immortalized
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Speaker 3: in the you know, the big Hit Hamilton, and a
32:18
Speaker 3: lot of people learned about him and how brilliant he was.
32:21
Speaker 3: That's a grown ass man. Sorry, let's go hawking and
32:24
Speaker 3: let's shoot each other. Let's let's say him a gun
32:26
Speaker 3: at each other. What and how did it work?
32:29
Speaker 2: You start?
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Speaker 5: You?
32:30
Speaker 2: Do I watch too much TV? Or do you really
32:32
Speaker 2: turn back to back? Walk an exact number.
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Speaker 3: Ten days you turn?
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Speaker 2: Do you just instantly unload? Is it? Do you flip
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Speaker 2: a coin to see who goes first?
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Speaker 3: I'd cheat. I cheat, I take two steps and I blaster.
32:45
Speaker 3: I shoot right when you're when they start, right in
32:49
Speaker 3: the back of the head right, begin to write that,
32:51
Speaker 3: all right, happy Monday. On that happy note, I love
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Speaker 3: you all.
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