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- 0:01Speaker 1: My name is Asa.
- 0:03Speaker 2: I am six years old and I do drag. Asa
- 0:11Speaker 2: is a baby drag queen.
- 0:13Speaker 3: He started doing this four, five, now six years old.
- 0:16Speaker 4: He is by far the youngest performer we've seen.
- 0:19Speaker 2: There's even adult performers that sometimes we can outperform.
- 0:23Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if this is the next RuPaul.
- 0:26Speaker 5: Did anyone think to ask if this was age appropriate? Anyone?
- 0:29Speaker 5: Are we just letting kids do whatever they want with
- 0:31Speaker 5: no parenting at all? Or are these kids actually being
- 0:35Speaker 5: used as a means to an end to fulfill some
- 0:37Speaker 5: kind of weird fantasy of the adults around them? But
- 0:39Speaker 5: maybe there's something I'm not seeing. What do you think
- 0:42Speaker 5: the biggest misconception of Asa and what he's doing is?
- 0:46Speaker 4: I think there's a few.
- 0:47Speaker 2: People who don't like what we believe can sometimes be violent.
- 0:52Speaker 5: I love the way that Vice edited this. The interviewer asks...
- 0:56Speaker 5: What do you think the biggest misconception is? Followed by, well,
- 0:59Speaker 5: there's a few misconceptions. People don't like us. Good job, Vice.
- 1:03Speaker 5: Excellent way to start the video with a non-answer. Eventually,
- 1:06Speaker 5: they do answer the question over 10 minutes later at
- 1:08Speaker 5: the end of the documentary, after their critics have already
- 1:10Speaker 5: been demonized as unreasonable. They say, a misconception is that
- 1:14Speaker 5: our son is being forced to do this. While that
- 1:17Speaker 5: does sound like a reasonable argument because maybe some people
- 1:20Speaker 5: are saying that force is a factor, In reality, this
- 1:23Speaker 5: is actually a strawman argument because force is not the
- 1:25Speaker 5: main concern from critics. The main concern is that kids
- 1:28Speaker 5: are being manipulated into willingly doing inappropriate stuff like this
- 1:32Speaker 5: by adults who are creepy. With that said, this interview
- 1:35Speaker 5: is from a Vice series called Child's Play. It features
- 1:38Speaker 5: Aaron and Jen and their six-year-old son Asa, who does drag.
- 1:42Speaker 5: While Vice appears to portray this family favorably by labeling
- 1:45Speaker 5: all critics as hate mobs without showing their arguments, this
- 1:48Speaker 5: whole situation begs the question of why? I have no
- 1:51Speaker 5: problem with people identifying with or being a part of
- 1:53Speaker 5: the LGBT community, but if you want to do things
- 1:56Speaker 5: like drag dancing on stage, why can't you just wait
- 1:58Speaker 5: till you're older? What's so urgent? Why do kids have
- 2:01Speaker 5: to be exposed to and participate in drag? More importantly,
- 2:05Speaker 5: how does a six-year-old even know what this stuff is?
- 2:08Speaker 2: One of Asa's favorite pastimes since he was a toddler
- 2:13Speaker 2: was dancing.
- 2:14Speaker 3: He would watch a lot of Kidz Bop videos, and
- 2:16Speaker 3: then we noticed that he's trying to do the dances
- 2:19Speaker 3: that they're doing in the music videos.
- 2:20Speaker 5: I was fully unaware that Kidz Bop was still a thing.
- 2:23Speaker 5: I thought that brand died in the 2000s. Despite that,
- 2:26Speaker 5: what you'll see happen throughout this video is that Jen
- 2:29Speaker 5: and Aaron are very dishonest in the way they portray
- 2:31Speaker 5: what they're doing. Clearly they are used to pushback and
- 2:34Speaker 5: have scripted responses to common objections that people have to
- 2:36Speaker 5: their behavior. So they start the conversation by saying, This
- 2:40Speaker 5: isn't anything strange. He was just dancing along to Kidz
- 2:43Speaker 5: Bop videos. What's wrong with dancing? Now that his behavior
- 2:46Speaker 5: has been portrayed as innocent because obviously there isn't anything
- 2:49Speaker 5: inherently wrong with most forms of stage dancing like tap, ballet,
- 2:53Speaker 5: or break dancing, but there's a difference between stuff like
- 2:55Speaker 5: that and stuff that is not child-friendly like pole dancing
- 2:58Speaker 5: or twerking. That being said, how do we go from
- 3:01Speaker 5: kids bop to drag?
- 3:03Speaker 2: I would say the real conversation about drag started the
- 3:06Speaker 2: first time that he went to Pride with us.
- 3:09Speaker 3: The first time that we took any of our kids
- 3:10Speaker 3: to Pride, Asa was four. We thought it would be
- 3:13Speaker 3: a good way to bring our kids in and let
- 3:16Speaker 3: them see the diversity of the world around us. The
- 3:19Speaker 3: music came on for the main stage. Asa was like,
- 3:23Speaker 3: what's that music? I want to know and grabbed me
- 3:26Speaker 3: by the hand and there was a drag performance going on.
- 3:28Speaker 3: He's just sat there kind of watching in awe and
- 3:32Speaker 3: he turned to me and said, could I do that?
- 3:34Speaker 5: You took your six-year-old son to a pride parade at
- 3:37Speaker 5: four years old? Why the hell would you take a
- 3:39Speaker 5: young child to pride? Pride parades are about celebrating sexuality,
- 3:43Speaker 5: and a four-year-old does not need to be learning about
- 3:46Speaker 5: sexuality or diversity in a place where people are displaying kinks.
- 3:50Speaker 5: In fact, a four-year-old should know nothing about sex. Contrary
- 3:53Speaker 5: to what a lot of people still seem to believe,
- 3:56Speaker 5: kids are not tiny adults. You can't expose them to
- 3:58Speaker 5: certain information until they get older because that information is
- 4:02Speaker 5: traumatizing to them, and they'll develop pathological behaviors in adulthood
- 4:06Speaker 5: like addiction if they're exposed to certain stuff too early.
- 4:09Speaker 5: Stop exposing kids to the adult world. It's not good
- 4:12Speaker 5: for them. I mean, I can't even show a lot
- 4:14Speaker 5: of the stuff that commonly goes on at pride parades
- 4:16Speaker 5: on YouTube without getting penalized, so I can't imagine why
- 4:20Speaker 5: it's legal to publicly display things like sexual kinks out
- 4:23Speaker 5: on the street where everyone can see it. I mean,
- 4:25Speaker 5: these are some very irresponsible parents.
- 4:28Speaker 3: I was still kind of new to the concept of
- 4:31Speaker 3: the LGBTQ community.
- 4:32Speaker 4: I'd never really been exposed to it, never been around it.
- 4:34Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't believe that at all. There's no way
- 4:37Speaker 5: this guy is straight. Even the people in the comments agree.
- 4:40Speaker 5: But you're a terrible liar, Aaron, and even if you
- 4:42Speaker 5: are being honest, it's still irresponsible to take your kids
- 4:44Speaker 5: to Pride. It would be like, gee, I've never been
- 4:47Speaker 5: to a nightclub before, but I thought I would take
- 4:50Speaker 5: my kids there so they could experience diversity in people's
- 4:52Speaker 5: behaviors and learn about intoxication. This whole feigning ignorance thing
- 4:56Speaker 5: they're doing is ridiculous.
- 4:58Speaker 3: I'm all about our family being allies, but it never
- 5:02Speaker 3: occurred to me that we'd be a part of that
- 5:03Speaker 3: community at this point in our lives.
- 5:05Speaker 5: It never occurred to you? He literally brought a four-year-old
- 5:08Speaker 5: impressionable child to the event. The only reason he knows
- 5:11Speaker 5: about this stuff is because you were very forward about
- 5:14Speaker 5: exposing your kids to diversity. And when the four-year-old kid said,
- 5:18Speaker 5: can I try drag dancing? Instead of saying, no, that's
- 5:21Speaker 5: for adults, you asked him if he wanted a dress.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Following that, for the next year, Asa was just obsessed
- 5:28Speaker 2: with drag dancing. And so the conversations led to would
- 5:33Speaker 2: Asa ever want to wear a dress?
- 5:34Speaker 5: Did Asa say he wanted a dress or did you
- 5:37Speaker 5: ask him if he wanted a dress? Because if you
- 5:39Speaker 5: asked him if he wanted a dress, that's you leading
- 5:41Speaker 5: him into the behavior and not a natural proclivity because
- 5:44Speaker 5: he likes kids bop dances. Also, were you continuously exposing
- 5:48Speaker 5: him to RuPaul? Are you allowing him to view content
- 5:50Speaker 5: on TV that's not age appropriate? Or was he asking
- 5:53Speaker 5: to watch drag shows so much that you just couldn't
- 5:56Speaker 5: possibly bear it? because it seems a lot more likely
- 5:58Speaker 5: to me that he was led into this stuff in
- 6:00Speaker 5: the disguise of exposing him to diversity instead of naturally
- 6:04Speaker 5: desiring it. Their whole game plan is to make it
- 6:07Speaker 5: look like they are good and supportive parents by saying, well,
- 6:10Speaker 5: we're just doing what he wants, when in reality, they're
- 6:13Speaker 5: actively pushing their kid towards drag, or at the very least,
- 6:16Speaker 5: they're ignoring the fact that kids want to do things
- 6:19Speaker 5: that are bad for them all the time, And it's
- 6:21Speaker 5: a parent's job to say no.
- 6:22Speaker 2: And the answer to that request should be no. You're
- 6:24Speaker 2: a child, and this is not appropriate for a child.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Stop publicly posting pictures of your kids online. That's how
- 6:30Speaker 2: creeps get access to them.
- 6:44Speaker 5: I mean, this is so bad. Some parents thought it
- 6:46Speaker 5: was a good idea to film their five-year-old daughter doing
- 6:49Speaker 5: a squat from the back and put it on Instagram.
- 6:51Speaker 5: I don't think YouTube will let me get away with
- 6:53Speaker 5: showing the comments, but needless to say, there were a
- 6:56Speaker 5: lot of people in the comment section that should be
- 6:58Speaker 5: in jail. If you post your kid dancing in drag,
- 7:00Speaker 5: you're going to attract this kind of audience as well.
- 7:03Speaker 5: But as I said, though they won't admit to it,
- 7:06Speaker 5: it's clear that Aaron and Jen are pushing their son
- 7:08Speaker 5: Asa into drag by rewarding it with praise and attention.
- 7:12Speaker 2: It was a year after their first performance. I took
- 7:16Speaker 2: him to go perform. It was an amazing performance.
- 7:21Speaker 5: Wow, that crowd cheered very loudly after he removed his cape. Interesting.
- 7:26Speaker 5: What do you call it when a person is praised
- 7:28Speaker 5: for removing clothing while dancing and then receives money for
- 7:31Speaker 5: their performance from the audience? Nobody sees a problem with this?
- 7:35Speaker 5: After seeing that Asa wanted to upload a drag video
- 7:37Speaker 5: to Facebook for likes and then seeing the massive amount
- 7:40Speaker 5: of attention that he gets from crowds, Nobody is concerned
- 7:43Speaker 5: that he is merely engaging in this because of how
- 7:45Speaker 5: much praise he's receiving. The amount of gaslighting here is
- 7:48Speaker 5: just ridiculous.
- 7:49Speaker 2: If he was a girl doing these exact same things,
- 7:55Speaker 2: no one would be saying anything.
- 7:57Speaker 5: Are you kidding? It absolutely would not be fine. In fact,
- 8:01Speaker 5: leftists have rightfully been screaming about child beauty pageants for years.
- 8:05Speaker 5: where similar behavior occurs with little girls. I mean, this
- 8:08Speaker 5: actually is.
- 8:08Speaker 6: A perfect representation of the whole, like, we must protect
- 8:11Speaker 6: our children fucking move, you know what I mean? This
- 8:14Speaker 6: wave of right-wing content creators that are, like, gross, creepy
- 8:19Speaker 6: perverts who fucking defend child beauty pageants, who defend fucking
- 8:23Speaker 6: child brides, for example, say insanely sus shit, like, oh,
- 8:28Speaker 6: the most fertile a woman is is when she's 16
- 8:30Speaker 6: years old, like, Those fucking freakazoids are also the same freakazoids.
- 8:35Speaker 5: Who are like, oh yeah, we gotta protect our children
- 8:37Speaker 5: from trans people existing. Though I don't like the whataboutism
- 8:40Speaker 5: from Wokies trying to use child beauty pageants as a
- 8:43Speaker 5: way to own conservatives on child drag shows, when the
- 8:46Speaker 5: reality is that both of these things should be illegal.
- 8:49Speaker 5: They are both bad for children. So anyway, let's get
- 8:52Speaker 5: to the part where the parents wave their kid around
- 8:54Speaker 5: to achieve their political goals. A part of this Vice
- 8:56Speaker 5: piece talks about a bill in Nebraska that would ban
- 8:59Speaker 5: minors from being present at drag shows and Aaron and
- 9:02Speaker 5: the family go to protest that bill.
- 9:04Speaker 3: On that day, it was just going to be the
- 9:06Speaker 3: two of us speaking. He did want to come, and
- 9:08Speaker 3: he did want to wear his fancy new dress that
- 9:10Speaker 3: he had just gotten.
- 9:12Speaker 5: Your son wanted to go to the meeting? Yeah, right.
- 9:14Speaker 5: I can just imagine him saying, You know what, Dad?
- 9:17Speaker 5: I would love to sit through a four-hour council meeting.
- 9:20Speaker 5: Forget how inappropriate it is to use your child to
- 9:22Speaker 5: push your politics, because there is no way a six-year-old
- 9:26Speaker 5: is volunteering to go to a government meeting.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Jen got her turn to speak. I got my turn
- 9:30Speaker 3: to speak. Asa turned to me and whispered in my ear,
- 9:33Speaker 3: can I sit in the chair and speak too? And
- 9:36Speaker 3: I said, yes, you can. And he said, yeah, I
- 9:38Speaker 3: do want to speak, but can you sit next to me?
- 9:41Speaker 3: And I said, that's not a problem. I'm sure they
- 9:42Speaker 3: will allow that.
- 9:43Speaker 4: I knew that I had to give him some questions.
- 9:46Speaker 5: I knew he wouldn't produce a testimony good enough to
- 9:48Speaker 5: impress people, so I had to prompt him with questions
- 9:51Speaker 5: to make him sound better. Is it really Asa speaking,
- 9:54Speaker 5: or is it just you trying to get a child
- 9:56Speaker 5: to say what you want him to say? I'll note
- 9:58Speaker 5: that Asa didn't speak until 3 into the meeting, and
- 10:01Speaker 5: he was prompted by his dad the entire time he spoke. Also,
- 10:04Speaker 5: I don't know if this is how the parents framed
- 10:06Speaker 5: it or it's how Vice edited the video, but from
- 10:09Speaker 5: their statements and from what was shown, you would conclude
- 10:11Speaker 5: that mom spoke, then dad spoke, then Asa asked to
- 10:15Speaker 5: speak because he was inspired by his parents. What actually
- 10:18Speaker 5: happened is that Asa spoke first, then his mom right after,
- 10:22Speaker 5: and then his dad like 30 minutes later. This framing
- 10:24Speaker 5: from the documentary suggests that they were kind of trying
- 10:27Speaker 5: to make a spectacle of Asa's speech, and Vice tried
- 10:30Speaker 5: to hide that by making people think his parents spoke
- 10:32Speaker 5: before he did. They're taking advantage of people's ignorance here.
- 10:36Speaker 5: As for the actual meeting, I did happen to sit
- 10:38Speaker 5: through the whole thing, and while there were many people
- 10:40Speaker 5: who opposed the anti-drag bill who said completely ridiculous crap,
- 10:44Speaker 5: The most reasonable concern was that the bill was just
- 10:47Speaker 5: too broadly worded and could make any instance of performance
- 10:50Speaker 5: in front of minors with clothing that does not represent
- 10:52Speaker 5: your biological sex as illegal, like, say, a school play
- 10:56Speaker 5: where a girl dresses as Peter Pan. I did read
- 10:59Speaker 5: the bill, and I do agree that it's too vague
- 11:01Speaker 5: and should be reworded to go after what is actually
- 11:03Speaker 5: the problem, which are the very many cases of sexualized
- 11:06Speaker 5: performances that have been filmed occurring in front of children.
- 11:09Speaker 5: I have serious doubts that parents like Aaron and Jen
- 11:12Speaker 5: don't know about these performances, considering that they cited libs
- 11:15Speaker 5: of TikTok during the Vice documentary, and libs of TikTok
- 11:19Speaker 5: has shown a lot of evidence of inappropriate drag happening
- 11:21Speaker 5: in front of kids.
- 11:22Speaker 2: There is indecent drag, but it doesn't happen in front
- 11:26Speaker 2: of children.
- 11:26Speaker 3: It's not like, surprise, there's kids in the front row now.
- 11:29Speaker 5: I actually watched a lot of the opposers of the
- 11:31Speaker 5: bill deny these performances existing, even though they are on
- 11:35Speaker 5: camera and well-known. There's nothing inherently sexual about drag.
- 11:39Speaker 1: There's nothing sexual about it. Sometimes we push the limits,
- 11:44Speaker 1: but those are not shows where minors are present.
- 11:48Speaker 4: Children are generally not present at drag shows.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Hosted in bars. There's nothing inherently sexual about dress. There's
- 11:57Speaker 1: nothing inherently sexual about clothes.
- 12:00Speaker 5: I really don't see why we can't all agree that
- 12:02Speaker 5: performances like these are wrong, no matter what ideological team
- 12:05Speaker 5: you're on. Now that the nuance of this has been explained,
- 12:09Speaker 5: I still find it appalling that Asa's parents had him
- 12:11Speaker 5: testify at this hearing. Personally, I would take any testimony
- 12:15Speaker 5: from a child with a grain of salt because we
- 12:17Speaker 5: don't know what's going on in the home that led
- 12:19Speaker 5: to this behavior. Even victims of extreme abuse such as
- 12:22Speaker 5: this one from the We're All Insane podcast will avidly
- 12:25Speaker 5: defend their abusers while they're being abused and even promote
- 12:29Speaker 5: their abusers' ideology only to realize how awful the situation
- 12:33Speaker 5: was years later. I'm not saying this is happening to Asa,
- 12:36Speaker 5: but it is very easy to coach, manipulate, or coerce
- 12:39Speaker 5: a kid into saying what you want them to say,
- 12:41Speaker 5: and that's why children should not be involved in politics,
- 12:44Speaker 5: especially young children like a six-year-old. And certainly, these parents
- 12:48Speaker 5: have no problem with lying or distorting the truth multiple
- 12:51Speaker 5: times during the documentary, like this moment here.
- 12:54Speaker 3: I knew that I had to give him some questions.
- 12:57Speaker 3: He said, how does drag make you feel? He went
- 13:00Speaker 3: to that mic and he said, does it make you
- 13:02Speaker 3: feel good? When he said powerful to me, that was like...
- 13:06Speaker 3: The weight of that word just hit me so hard
- 13:10Speaker 3: because I still wasn't sure where I was at with
- 13:13Speaker 3: performing drag at that point.
- 13:14Speaker 5: Yeah, that's actually a lie. You knew exactly where you
- 13:17Speaker 5: were with Asa performing drag because you pretty insistently claimed
- 13:20Speaker 5: that you would make sure that Asa does drag whether
- 13:23Speaker 5: this bill passes or not. If this bill were.
- 13:25Speaker 3: To pass, we will not stop allowing him to dance
- 13:30Speaker 3: in a dress in our home.
- 13:33Speaker 1: He has.
- 13:34Speaker 4: performed already in other states. He will continue to perform
- 13:38Speaker 4: in other states.
- 13:39Speaker 3: He will continue to perform in Lincoln and Omaha as
- 13:41Speaker 3: long as he is allowed to legally.
- 13:44Speaker 4: We want him to be the most affirmed child that
- 13:46Speaker 4: he can be.
- 13:47Speaker 5: Someone might point out that he spoke after Asa, and
- 13:50Speaker 5: those words could have been inspired by what Asa said.
- 13:52Speaker 5: To that, I'll say, remember that they or Vice tried
- 13:55Speaker 5: to hide the fact that Asa spoke first. Second, you
- 13:58Speaker 5: can see he's reading off a printed out script. Actually,
- 14:01Speaker 5: both him and his wife read off a script, So
- 14:03Speaker 5: he already planned to say that stuff. Here's them distorting
- 14:06Speaker 5: the truth again.
- 14:07Speaker 2: It really is no different than anything that happens at
- 14:11Speaker 2: a dance recital.
- 14:12Speaker 5: Yes, because at a dance recital, kids commonly have dollar
- 14:15Speaker 5: bills given to them by the audience. Personally, I can
- 14:19Speaker 5: think of only one other place where that kind of
- 14:20Speaker 5: activity occurs. And if you think that's the only time
- 14:23Speaker 5: this kid has been given money for drag, you'd be wrong.
- 14:26Speaker 5: Here's another example. There's one here too. And here's one more.
- 14:30Speaker 5: Being that money is involved, how do we know that
- 14:32Speaker 5: this kid isn't being heavily driven to do these performances
- 14:35Speaker 5: because he's getting a bonus in his allowance? Even so,
- 14:38Speaker 5: we all know it's being mimicked here, and what part
- 14:40Speaker 5: of this is child-friendly?
- 14:42Speaker 4: We get told a.
- 14:43Speaker 2: Lot from performers and people in the community that people
- 14:46Speaker 2: do kind of see Lulu as hope of what's to
- 14:49Speaker 2: come for the future in the community.
- 14:52Speaker 5: Well, considering the material, the people who have that take
- 14:55Speaker 5: probably need to spend some time behind bars. But it's
- 14:58Speaker 5: not like this is all a new thing. Boundaries around
- 15:00Speaker 5: children have been pretty poorly protected throughout the ages. You
- 15:03Speaker 5: think stuff like creeps at Nickelodeon using LGBT as a
- 15:06Speaker 5: disguise to expose children to inappropriate stuff is new? No,
- 15:10Speaker 5: these companies have been doing that stuff for years. Have
- 15:12Speaker 5: you ever investigated why the logo for Nickelodeon used to
- 15:15Speaker 5: be a foot, or why there were a number of
- 15:17Speaker 5: gags on kids' shows that involved kids playing with their feet? Well,
- 15:20Speaker 5: one of the higher-ups at that company, Dan Schneider, had
- 15:23Speaker 5: a foot fetish, so if you didn't already know that,
- 15:25Speaker 5: you're welcome for ruining your childhood. Speaking of iCarly, this
- 15:29Speaker 5: actor in this kissing scene is 23, while Miranda Cosgrove
- 15:32Speaker 5: is 16. How about Zoey 101? Here Victoria Justice is 14,
- 15:37Speaker 5: and the actor she's doing the kissing scene with is
- 15:40Speaker 5: either 20 or 21, depending on when they filmed the episode,
- 15:43Speaker 5: because the episode was filmed around his birthday. Who in
- 15:46Speaker 5: the hell thought this was appropriate? And remember, they shoot
- 15:49Speaker 5: these scenes a ton of times with a crew of
- 15:51Speaker 5: adults watching and giving direction. This whole thing begs the
- 15:54Speaker 5: question of, If there are thousands of people trying out
- 15:57Speaker 5: for these roles, then what's the issue with just finding
- 16:00Speaker 5: actors who are the same or close in age? Or
- 16:03Speaker 5: just don't do the scenes at all? It's no wonder
- 16:05Speaker 5: people like Hannah Pearl Davis have these weird boundaries when
- 16:08Speaker 5: it comes to minors. The sad thing is that though
- 16:11Speaker 5: this stuff you see involving kids on lives of TikTok
- 16:13Speaker 5: is bad, personally, it's not even the thing I'm most
- 16:16Speaker 5: concerned about when it comes to protecting children. I think
- 16:19Speaker 5: a big part of the reason that so many people
- 16:21Speaker 5: can roll their eyes at this stuff, ignore it, or
- 16:23Speaker 5: outright support it, is because the next thing they're thinking is, well,
- 16:27Speaker 5: look at what kids have access to on their computer
- 16:29Speaker 5: and their phones. This was a comment that was said
- 16:31Speaker 5: quite a lot during the recent Twitch event where they
- 16:33Speaker 5: allowed artistic nudity, which basically turned it into a camgirl
- 16:37Speaker 5: site within a few hours, and a place where people
- 16:39Speaker 5: were drawing full-on pornography and titling their videos as if
- 16:42Speaker 5: they were on the internet's favorite adult hub website. Let's
- 16:46Speaker 5: keep in mind that Twitch is a website where they
- 16:47Speaker 5: play games like Fortnite, Among Us, or Fall Guys, which
- 16:51Speaker 5: are all games that young children play. Considering that the
- 16:54Speaker 5: Just Chatting section is the most popular category, those kids
- 16:57Speaker 5: are just one accidental click away from being exposed to
- 16:59Speaker 5: adult content without even having to click on a box
- 17:02Speaker 5: that says, Are you 18? During the time period when
- 17:05Speaker 5: artistic nudity was allowed, there was inappropriate content uncensored right
- 17:10Speaker 5: in the thumbnails. These are viewable without clicking any form
- 17:13Speaker 5: of age verification or consent, and you don't even have
- 17:16Speaker 5: to be logged in. By the way, these inappropriate thumbnails
- 17:19Speaker 5: can still currently be found on Twitch in the Just
- 17:21Speaker 5: Chatting section, as well as the art section, which still
- 17:24Speaker 5: has a lot of people drawing lewd content. Basically, there
- 17:27Speaker 5: are always multiple creators drawing hentai in the art section
- 17:30Speaker 5: of a website that children use, and those artists aren't
- 17:33Speaker 5: always drawing characters that are adults. But it's okay, because
- 17:37Speaker 5: most of the time, the girls technically have clothes on.
- 17:40Speaker 5: Not that it even matters, because you can simply just
- 17:43Speaker 5: click yes to the RU18 question and proceed to view
- 17:46Speaker 5: the content. You don't even have to log in. Yes,
- 17:49Speaker 5: I'm aware that you're supposed to be 13 to be
- 17:51Speaker 5: on Twitch, But considering that they don't require you to
- 17:53Speaker 5: sign in for even the most restricted parts of the website,
- 17:56Speaker 5: you know that plenty of kids that are far younger
- 17:58Speaker 5: than that are on Twitch because children's games are being streamed.
- 18:01Speaker 5: The fact that no one went to prison for artistic
- 18:03Speaker 5: nudity on Twitch just baffles me because if that was
- 18:06Speaker 5: done in a public square, you would have been locked
- 18:08Speaker 5: up and put on a registry for a number of years.
- 18:11Speaker 5: Yet if it happens on the internet, it's totally fine.
- 18:13Speaker 5: And people say, what about the parents? It's the parents'
- 18:16Speaker 5: responsibility to keep their kids away from this stuff. And
- 18:19Speaker 5: to that I say, it's so easy to access adult
- 18:21Speaker 5: content on every avenue, even with parental controls, that I
- 18:25Speaker 5: honestly don't think it's possible for even the most vigilant
- 18:27Speaker 5: parents to keep their kids from being exposed to it.
- 18:30Speaker 5: Unless you, like, isolate your kids from the rest of society.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Personally, I was exposed to adult content when I was
- 18:37Speaker 1: 8 years old at a friend's house. Um... And it's
- 18:42Speaker 1: something my parents would have never been okay with. I
- 18:44Speaker 1: did not have a smartphone. They did everything they could
- 18:49Speaker 1: to protect me from that sort of thing.
- 18:51Speaker 5: To put this in terms of a metaphor, access to
- 18:53Speaker 5: internet pornography is like this. Imagine if you put like
- 18:56Speaker 5: a lemonade stand next to a middle school that was
- 18:58Speaker 5: full of free unlimited beer. No one is at the
- 19:01Speaker 5: stand to check your age. You can get the free
- 19:03Speaker 5: beer at any time of the day, be it 12 p.m.
- 19:05Speaker 5: or four in the morning. And the only thing you
- 19:07Speaker 5: have to do to take the beer is is check
- 19:09Speaker 5: a box on a clipboard that says yes when it
- 19:11Speaker 5: asks you if you're 21, and sometimes you don't even
- 19:14Speaker 5: have to do that. If this was the case with beer,
- 19:17Speaker 5: don't you think a lot of kids, if not pretty
- 19:19Speaker 5: much every kid, would have access to alcohol far before
- 19:22Speaker 5: the age of consent? And that's not even a fully
- 19:24Speaker 5: accurate metaphor because adult content is much easier to access
- 19:27Speaker 5: than that. That being said, it's no wonder that porn
- 19:30Speaker 5: addiction is such a common subject of discussion these days.
- 19:33Speaker 5: Which brings us to this video here by Gerbert Johnson.
- 19:36Speaker 5: I'm not super familiar with this channel, but I believe
- 19:39Speaker 5: he is a nofap slash blackpill YouTuber. Don't quote me
- 19:42Speaker 5: on that, though. We actually aren't going to watch the video.
- 19:45Speaker 5: We're just here for the comments. Looking through these, it's
- 19:47Speaker 5: shocking how many people were exposed to adult masturbation. at
- 19:50Speaker 5: 10 or younger. Actually, I believe it was every comment
- 19:54Speaker 5: I read where they gave an age. This one says,
- 20:09Speaker 5: Even as a woman, I struggle with this. I still
- 20:11Speaker 5: remember the first video that I watched at around 7
- 20:14Speaker 5: or 8 years old. There were actually a shocking number
- 20:17Speaker 5: of women in this comment section. I expected it to
- 20:19Speaker 5: be mostly men. But contrary to the popular counter-argument of,
- 20:23Speaker 5: you have no idea what 13-year-olds have access to on
- 20:25Speaker 5: the internet these days, it's actually not 13-year-olds. It's 7, 8, 9,
- 20:30Speaker 5: and 10-year-olds getting access to this material, and none of
- 20:32Speaker 5: the mainstream companies are doing anything to stop it. You
- 20:35Speaker 5: have Pornhub here that didn't even age-verify their actresses until
- 20:38Speaker 5: like 3 years ago, after massive pushback, and had to
- 20:41Speaker 5: remove 80% of their content because a lot of it
- 20:43Speaker 5: was illegal. Even still, in the Arden Young Project Veritas-style expose,
- 20:48Speaker 5: they admitted that you could just bypass that by showing
- 20:51Speaker 5: someone else's ID and then not showing your face in
- 20:53Speaker 5: your videos, so I'm sure trafficking is still rampant on
- 20:56Speaker 5: that website.
- 20:57Speaker 1: The most shocking thing, and honestly the first thing that
- 21:02Speaker 1: I recorded, was Mike Farley telling me about this upload
- 21:07Speaker 1: loophole where the content reviewers internally at the company find
- 21:14Speaker 1: it absolutely impossible, because it is impossible, to match a
- 21:17Speaker 1: face on an ID to a body in a video,
- 21:21Speaker 1: because many videos don't contain faces at all. So there's
- 21:27Speaker 1: a lot of guesswork and, oh, you know, just push
- 21:31Speaker 1: it through, it looks about right, where really you don't
- 21:34Speaker 1: know if someone's 14, 16, 20, many times you can't tell.
- 21:40Speaker 1: So when Mike Farley started talking about that loophole, I
- 21:44Speaker 1: was shocked. And not only that, but the fact that
- 21:48Speaker 1: he said it was enough of an issue to him
- 21:52Speaker 1: that he sat down and recorded a meeting of him
- 21:55Speaker 1: telling the executives about this loophole. And they were told
- 22:00Speaker 1: he was told to F off and shut up about it.
- 22:03Speaker 5: If you want to hate that website, then you can
- 22:05Speaker 5: just watch the people who run it getting surprised interviewed.
- 22:08Speaker 5: And yes, they admitted to wanting kids to watch the website.
- 22:11Speaker 5: But it's not just the hub that's the problem. The
- 22:14Speaker 5: world's most popular search engine, Google, doesn't even require you
- 22:17Speaker 5: to log in before you turn SafeSearch off. Of course,
- 22:20Speaker 5: there are still ways for a kid to get access
- 22:21Speaker 5: to explicit material, even if they're logged in, but the
- 22:24Speaker 5: whole idea is to make accessing the content as difficult
- 22:27Speaker 5: as possible. This is a principle in marketing. The more
- 22:30Speaker 5: difficult it is to buy your product, the less people
- 22:33Speaker 5: will consume it. It's also why politicians fight so hard
- 22:35Speaker 5: to be put on the ballot, because while yes, you
- 22:38Speaker 5: can just write the person's name in, having to do
- 22:40Speaker 5: that extra step when it comes to a population of
- 22:42Speaker 5: millions makes it so you'll basically never win an election.
- 22:46Speaker 5: The more you have to teach a person to make
- 22:47Speaker 5: it possible to engage with you, the fewer people you'll
- 22:50Speaker 5: get when it comes to large-scale groups, which in terms
- 22:53Speaker 5: of what we're talking about here, it could mean that
- 22:55Speaker 5: simply requiring a login before a safe search can be
- 22:57Speaker 5: deactivated could save hundreds of thousands of seven-year-olds from being
- 23:01Speaker 5: exposed to adult content. Since the age to view adult
- 23:04Speaker 5: content is 18, the goal is to implement a system
- 23:07Speaker 5: that makes it so kids are as close to that
- 23:09Speaker 5: age as possible before they are first exposed to the material. Obviously,
- 23:13Speaker 5: that number will never be 100%, but a person viewing
- 23:16Speaker 5: adult content for the first time at 16 is not
- 23:19Speaker 5: nearly as bad as seeing it for the first time
- 23:21Speaker 5: at 7. With that said, the protections for children against
- 23:24Speaker 5: this stuff are dismal, and while plenty of people are
- 23:27Speaker 5: outraged about this online, Nobody is really willing to take
- 23:30Speaker 5: actual steps to make it harder for kids to get
- 23:31Speaker 5: access to this content. Except Utah. They signed in a
- 23:35Speaker 5: law that requires ID verification to access adult content in
- 23:38Speaker 5: their state. Personally, I think that's a step in the
- 23:41Speaker 5: right direction. However, the methods of ID verification that they
- 23:45Speaker 5: proposed look like they were written by boomers and either
- 23:48Speaker 5: require expensive software with dubious accuracy, or they require you
- 23:52Speaker 5: to reveal a ton of personal information to some of
- 23:54Speaker 5: the biggest degenerates on the planet. refer back to the
- 23:57Speaker 5: Arden Young interviews for the kinds of people who run
- 23:59Speaker 5: adult websites, or note that since the beginning of the internet,
- 24:03Speaker 5: adult websites have been riddled with spyware and viruses designed
- 24:06Speaker 5: to steal people's info to commit identity theft. Jeez, one
- 24:10Speaker 5: of these says that you put in your social security
- 24:12Speaker 5: number to age verify. Are you kidding me? If you
- 24:16Speaker 5: do that, then scammers are just going to design an
- 24:18Speaker 5: ad that looks like the spot that you're supposed to
- 24:20Speaker 5: age verify in, and instead of asking for the last
- 24:22Speaker 5: four digits, they'll trick people into giving out the whole thing.
- 24:26Speaker 5: the identity theft business is going to be booming. Not
- 24:29Speaker 5: to mention that the government will probably use this as
- 24:31Speaker 5: an excuse to implement a system that will connect your
- 24:34Speaker 5: real-life identity to your internet use, and then that can
- 24:37Speaker 5: be used to destroy anonymity and free speech. So all
- 24:40Speaker 5: this is not a great plan. This is why you
- 24:42Speaker 5: don't allow boomers who don't know how Wi-Fi works to
- 24:45Speaker 5: make laws about the internet. Also, if you start attaching
- 24:48Speaker 5: people's ID to their internet history, a lot of people
- 24:51Speaker 5: will resist societal changes that protect children, because they don't
- 24:54Speaker 5: want people knowing what sites they visit. So here's how
- 24:57Speaker 5: we actually solve this problem. We can do ID verification
- 25:01Speaker 5: for websites in person. All you have to do is
- 25:03Speaker 5: sell it in the form of something like a gift
- 25:05Speaker 5: card at places like liquor stores. You show your ID
- 25:08Speaker 5: to the store clerk, buy the card or cards for
- 25:11Speaker 5: $ 1 each, make an account for the website, put the
- 25:13Speaker 5: code in, and now you are age verified. Also, the
- 25:17Speaker 5: cards are single use, so some kid can't just steal
- 25:19Speaker 5: one out of his dad's wallet and pass it around
- 25:21Speaker 5: at school. Plus, it being single-use would limit exposure in
- 25:25Speaker 5: the case that a minor does get one, because you
- 25:27Speaker 5: would only have access to one account on one website,
- 25:30Speaker 5: instead of every website, along with things like Google Search. Yes,
- 25:33Speaker 5: you should have to age-verify to turn off SafeSearch and
- 25:35Speaker 5: view age-restricted content on search engines. Last, single-use cards make
- 25:40Speaker 5: it more difficult for porn addicts to relapse, because if
- 25:43Speaker 5: they revoke their ID verification or delete their accounts, they
- 25:46Speaker 5: now have to drive to the store and enter codes
- 25:48Speaker 5: for every website they used to use, instead of being
- 25:50Speaker 5: able to access adult websites instantly anytime they have an impulse.
- 25:54Speaker 5: But the whole point of this is that it's very simple,
- 25:57Speaker 5: it's anonymous, and if it were implemented, the numbers of
- 25:59Speaker 5: kids getting access to adult websites would plummet. Are there
- 26:03Speaker 5: ways around this? Yes, but it's far better than what
- 26:05Speaker 5: we have going right now, which is basically zero protection.
- 26:09Speaker 5: It's time to start actually taking steps to keep children
- 26:11Speaker 5: from getting access to content they shouldn't be seeing, instead
- 26:14Speaker 5: of just saying it's wrong on social media, and then
- 26:17Speaker 5: forgetting about it. Anyway, thanks for watching, follow me on Twitter,
- 26:21Speaker 5: and I'll see you in the next video.