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• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Jesus needs the reform it tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Why are the Liberals so frightened to make a deal
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  Speaker 2: with Pauline Hansen that could save them? And did the
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: Albanize government do enough to protect the Iranian soccer players
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  Speaker 2: from pressure from their regime? Five of the seven granted
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  Speaker 2: protection of visas last week have now gone home or
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  Speaker 2: so tonight?
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  Speaker 1: Did Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Trick far right media star Tucker Carlson, a pro Iranian shill,
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  Speaker 2: into helping the US kill he runs Supreme leader Carson
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: now claims the CIA wants him charged with being a
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  Speaker 2: foreign agent. But first, the Sydney Swans this afternoon admitted
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  Speaker 2: to a shameful thing. Incredibly, the club edited out any
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  Speaker 2: mention of the word Jew or Jewish in the serony
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  Speaker 2: in their opening round a week and have ago to
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  Speaker 2: honor the dead and the heroes of the Bondeu massacre
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  Speaker 2: of Jews, edited out the word Jewish from this part
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  Speaker 2: of the ceremony to.
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  Speaker 1: All in our community, we stand with you.
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  Speaker 2: Now Here's club CEO Matthew pavlichs afternoon, admitting the club
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't say out loud that Bondau was an attack on Jews,
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  Speaker 2: and we stood with Jews.
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  Speaker 3: The focus of last week's Bondi tribute was to one
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  Speaker 3: of those impacted by the tragedy and to stand with
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  Speaker 3: the Jewish community, as we did in December and continue.
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  Speaker 1: To do so.
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  Speaker 3: Whilst we didn't specifically reference the Jewish community in the script,
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  Speaker 3: this was in the context of those people that were
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  Speaker 3: on the field with us that evening, which included many
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  Speaker 3: of the brave first responders, community heroes, and of course
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  Speaker 3: those impacted the most, the Jewish community.
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  Speaker 1: And it was through that lens in.
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  Speaker 3: Which we finalized the word spoken. We apologized on Saturday
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  Speaker 3: night for this, and we do so again today.
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  Speaker 2: An official club statement later went further admitted it was
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  Speaker 2: in fact a script change, saying it was made within
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  Speaker 2: our club and a genuine effort to use inclusive language
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  Speaker 2: by referring to the whole community. We acknowledged that this
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  Speaker 2: was an era of judgment, and again we apologize and
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  Speaker 2: Pavolege later in an interview said William suggests that it
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  Speaker 2: could have been him, the AFL had ticked off and
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  Speaker 2: he then edited it. Well, someone seems to be him.
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  Speaker 2: The apology comes only though, because it was discovered and
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  Speaker 2: called out publicly on the weekend by former AFL great
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  Speaker 2: Sheared Healy.
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  Speaker 4: The word Jew wasn't mentioned at all on the night
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  Speaker 4: the script was changed. The script was changed. Initially it
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  Speaker 4: had we stand with the Jewish community and for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 4: and I think it was to just be more inclusive.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll let Andrew Pridham tomorrow. I spoke to it today.
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  Speaker 4: He's going to clear it up, and he changed. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know then, I don't know the details. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know the answers. I've asked a lot because I know
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  Speaker 4: it annoyed me.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to say the publisher's explanation and taking responsibility
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  Speaker 2: this afternoon doesn't explain much at all. I mean, for
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  Speaker 2: what reason was it felt the standing with the Jewish
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  Speaker 2: community wasn't inclusive enough?
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  Speaker 1: Was this driven by some.
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  Speaker 2: Fear of a reaction from fans, some of them if
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  Speaker 2: Jews were acknowledged? Now I know the Sydney Swan's tried
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  Speaker 2: to do a good thing by holding that ceremony, but
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  Speaker 2: then to not even acknowledge the truth, to not even
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  Speaker 2: name the evil that this was a very deliberate mask
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  Speaker 2: of Jews because of the Jews has ruined everything shows
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  Speaker 2: how toxic Australia has become for Jews thanks to mass migration,
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  Speaker 2: that even when we mourn their dead and AFL Club
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  Speaker 2: doesn't dare say they were Jews and killed for being Jews.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what has truly become.
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  Speaker 2: What politicians can we now trust to close the door
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  Speaker 2: before Jews feel safe nowhere in this country and before
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  Speaker 2: we all feel shame for what Australia now is.
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  Speaker 1: We are just two weak. We are just two weeks
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  Speaker 1: and two.
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  Speaker 2: Days into this war with Iran, into a war against
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  Speaker 2: the fanatically ismus regime that disarmed itself to the teeth
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  Speaker 2: with rockets and missiles and drones, many hidden deep underground.
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  Speaker 2: Two weeks and two days into a war against the
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  Speaker 2: country two and a half times the size of France.
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  Speaker 2: Yet all you here at the moment is politicians and
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  Speaker 2: journalists and activists say, well, it's already disaster. Iran hasn't surrendered,
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  Speaker 2: is still firing a few missiles, still hitting oil tankers
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  Speaker 2: and straight up on oars, cutting off all exports from
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  Speaker 2: the Gulf, so to not a quick reality check?
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  Speaker 1: Is it true that Iran has essentially won this war?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what is true that Iran has
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  Speaker 2: corves worldwide fear and pain by cutting off that straighter
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  Speaker 2: for mus closing off twenty percent of the world's oil exports.
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  Speaker 2: And you see the results here, which will get worse
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  Speaker 2: if that's not solved. But let's cut to the chase
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  Speaker 2: to start with. If you've got a regime that's trying
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  Speaker 2: to save yourself by firing at a dozen of its
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  Speaker 2: Muslim neighbors, including at hotels and airports and ships, and
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  Speaker 2: trying to cause a worldwide economic collapse, doesn't that prove
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  Speaker 2: that this regime is mad and can never be trusted
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  Speaker 2: with ballistic missiles lit alone and nuclear weapons program. But
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  Speaker 2: is this war really going so bad? It's true you
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  Speaker 2: around blocking oil tankers as straight from moods could be
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  Speaker 2: usually damaging if it goes on for a few weeks,
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  Speaker 2: But Saudi Arabi predicted this decades ago and has built
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  Speaker 2: a pipeline right across the peninsula. The pipe oil to
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  Speaker 2: a port in the Red Sea Yamboo away from Iran.
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  Speaker 1: And look at this ship tracker.
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  Speaker 2: The ships in blue are oil tankers around fifty and
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  Speaker 2: our sailing to Yanbu to pick up fuel.
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  Speaker 1: You can see it.
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  Speaker 2: That won't, of course, make up for the loss of
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  Speaker 2: oil from other Gulf states, but it will make a difference.
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  Speaker 1: And it's more, Iran has.
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  Speaker 2: Agreed to keep sending its own oil to China and
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  Speaker 2: India and anyone else is against the US and Israel.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't help us directly, but oil that China and
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  Speaker 2: the others buy from Iran is oil that they don't
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  Speaker 2: need to buy from the rest of the world market,
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  Speaker 2: so it does help us. The US is meanwhile sending
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  Speaker 2: the USS Tripoli from Japan with a thirty first Marine
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  Speaker 2: Expeditionary Union on board that can carry out special air
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  Speaker 2: and surface operations to protect shipping in the Persian Gulf.
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  Speaker 1: Should be in theater in two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: And Trump is also as to the European countries or
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  Speaker 2: a number of them and China to come help protect
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  Speaker 2: shipping in that straight up muss but so far they're refusing.
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  Speaker 2: That's on them then, and so is Australia refusing. According
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  Speaker 2: to resources Minster Catherine King today, but.
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  Speaker 5: We won't be sending a ship out of the Stratoghymers
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  Speaker 5: were I know how incredibly important that is, but that's
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  Speaker 5: not something that we've been asked or we're contributing.
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  Speaker 2: To Trump today was angry to be abandoned by the
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  Speaker 2: allies that will profit from removing the Uranian threat, but
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  Speaker 2: also allies that has been insulting as weak for years.
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  Speaker 6: They should come and they shouldn't help us, whether we
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  Speaker 6: get support or not.
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  Speaker 2: But I can't say this, and I said it to them.
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  Speaker 7: We will remember.
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  Speaker 1: This oil scare will amount to nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Of the US and Israel can get the oil flowing
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  Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks or so.
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  Speaker 1: Or in the real war fast.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what missing is what's been missing in so
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  Speaker 2: much of the analysis. The real war is not to
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  Speaker 2: change the regime, as so many journals keep saying, but
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  Speaker 2: to destroy it as a military and terrorist threat for
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  Speaker 2: a generation. And so far that's exactly what's being done.
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  Speaker 2: Iran's navy destroyed most of its missile launchers, destroyed much
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  Speaker 2: of its air force, destroyed, its top leaders killed. It's
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  Speaker 2: a weapons program all but destroyed, its air defenses destroyed.
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  Speaker 2: In the past few days, the US and Israel have
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  Speaker 2: focused on also destroying facilities which build missiles and other weapons.
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  Speaker 2: They're also now hitting the regime's paramilitary forces, which are
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  Speaker 2: used to terrorize Iranians and suppress them. Israel last Week's
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  Speaker 2: even sent drones to hunt and destroy checkpoints set up
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  Speaker 2: by the Bassige militia in cities including Tehran to loosen
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  Speaker 2: its control over the public. Every day, this regime is
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  Speaker 2: being weakened. Its new supreme leader, washed Abe Kamani, son
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  Speaker 2: of the assassinated former leader, is himself injured. Iranian diplomats
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  Speaker 2: have admitted it and probably injured.
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  Speaker 8: Seriously, we know the new so called not so supreme
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  Speaker 8: leader is wounded and likely disfigured.
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  Speaker 2: The Kamine has not been seen or heard publicly since
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  Speaker 2: being appointed, which is odd, and allegiance ceremonies to him
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  Speaker 2: had to be held with this portrait.
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  Speaker 1: There, not the man himself.
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  Speaker 2: This is now an unconfirmed report Baker Waiting newspaper. The
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  Speaker 2: Kamine was medivact to Russia, where it's still recovering.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows, who knows. But the war to.
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  Speaker 2: Destroy Iran's power is going well and with just thirteen
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  Speaker 2: US soldiers gilled, which is astonishing.
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  Speaker 1: Now, of course, it isn't finished.
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  Speaker 2: The contator's going are we there yet? Like children must
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  Speaker 2: live in TikTok Land, everything finished in sixty seconds. The
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  Speaker 2: war isn't like that, not against the military regime like Iran.
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  Speaker 2: There's still more to do. Obviously, Iran's enriched ranium still
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been found and removed, Bunkers of missiles still haven't
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  Speaker 2: been found, and a straight up Moses still closed. And
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  Speaker 2: not all of this may even be done before Trump
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  Speaker 2: and Israeli promise of Benymine. You decide enough, They've done enough,
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  Speaker 2: and the cost of going on is too high. The
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  Speaker 2: victory will not be perfect, which war is ended perfectly,
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  Speaker 2: and many people in the West will call it a
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  Speaker 2: failure whatever the result. They hate Trump in America that much.
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  Speaker 2: And all you can do is look at the results.
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  Speaker 2: Has the Iranian threat been removed for now? If so,
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  Speaker 2: that's a win. And to the panel in the local
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  Speaker 2: politics Lookause sings the Liberals would rather lose than swa
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  Speaker 2: preferences of calling hanss one nation or they're betting the
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  Speaker 2: house that one nation is a bubble that will pop.
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  Speaker 2: Two elections will decide that, of course. Saturday state election
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  Speaker 2: in South Australia, the federal election in Farah on May nine.
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  Speaker 2: That's the set held by us the Liberal leader Susan Lee,
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  Speaker 2: who's quit politics now. In South Australia, the Liberals are
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  Speaker 2: mostly preferencing independence ahead of one nation, although interestingly the
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  Speaker 2: Liberal leaders preferenced one nation still ahead of the Nationals.
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  Speaker 2: But affair today the launch of the new Liberal candidate. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: leader Angus Taylor didn't even want to mention preferencing the
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  Speaker 2: one nation candidate who's in a field including also a
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  Speaker 2: national one and Michelle Milthorpe backed by Climate two hundred
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  Speaker 2: funder of the left wing teals.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, people's preferences are their choices.
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  Speaker 1: They choose who to preference. We want them to preference
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  Speaker 1: us first. Now, a reporter R.
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  Speaker 2: Spargo was there today and he found even Liberals there
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  Speaker 2: with Taylor were upset with that.
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  Speaker 9: While Angus Taylor was giving that response, liberal party members
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  Speaker 9: standing behind him were saying, just say yes, just say yes,
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  Speaker 9: that you would preference one nation above the Climate two
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  Speaker 9: hundred backs independent. He wasn't prepared to do so.
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  Speaker 2: It's not as if the Liberals don't need every scrap
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  Speaker 2: of help when they can't even get some from Susan Lee.
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  Speaker 6: I have reached out to Susan, but I also think
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  Speaker 6: that she deserves a well earned break. Ultimately, this is
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  Speaker 6: a by election to choose a new representative.
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  Speaker 9: And you mentioned that you've reached out for Susan Lee.
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  Speaker 1: Has you not responded? What does that tell you?
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't tell me anything. It tells me that we
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  Speaker 6: are here as seeking new representation for the electorate Afarah.
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  Speaker 1: And today the Nationals the National Resolve poll.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that, I mean one Nation now second ahead
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  Speaker 2: of the coalition now like almost every other pole. And
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  Speaker 2: of course you know, if the election results don't match
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  Speaker 2: what the polls are saying, the one nation hype could melt.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: Although the reception Hanson God is Australia on the weekend
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  Speaker 2: suggests she's going nowhere really good. Joining me is Michael Kroger,
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  Speaker 2: former President Victorian Liberals is Steve Connery, former Labor Senator
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  Speaker 2: and Cabinet minister Michael Kraeger. Where is Paul Enhans's party going?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think? Well?
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  Speaker 10: It's going very strongly, Andrew. And that's because the Liberal Party,
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  Speaker 10: the National Party and the Labor Party. You've got to
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  Speaker 10: understand that the public of lost trust in institutions, big government,
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  Speaker 10: big unions, big business. They think those groups by and
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  Speaker 10: large look after themselves and not so much the working
• 13:39
  Speaker 10: middle class and the massive rise in the one Nation
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  Speaker 10: vote is explained by that and also by her long
• 13:47
  Speaker 10: standing brand equity opposing Islamists in Australia, large scale immigration,
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  Speaker 10: Muslim immigration, etc. And that's her number one brand equity.
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  Speaker 10: So she's polling very strongly in until such time as
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  Speaker 10: there's a clamp down, a serious clamp down on mess immigration,
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  Speaker 10: and that there's a rebuilding of trust in institutions of
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  Speaker 10: government and business, she'll continue to do well.
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  Speaker 2: Andrey Stephen, what are you expecting in the state election
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  Speaker 2: for a start in South Australia.
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  Speaker 8: I think Melanauskos will win. I was having conversation with
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  Speaker 8: a retiring South Australian MP just last week. I said,
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  Speaker 8: how's campaign going and he said, we've actually got no
• 14:35
  Speaker 8: defense's strategy in any set very mind only won by
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  Speaker 8: a small number last time. So the Melnasis government is
• 14:43
  Speaker 8: looking entirely to win seats, not to try and defend
• 14:46
  Speaker 8: seats from Liberal taking them. So I think the Melonnasis
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  Speaker 8: government is in for a thumping win. The most interest
• 14:54
  Speaker 8: is going to be whether in the Lower House One
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  Speaker 8: Nation can get a big enough primary to push a
• 15:01
  Speaker 8: Liberal candidate out of the race. Now, in the regional
• 15:05
  Speaker 8: Center's Labor is not going to be as strong, so
• 15:06
  Speaker 8: that's more challenging that it sounds. But at the end
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  Speaker 8: of the day, I think running a candidate in every
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  Speaker 8: single electorate is simply about an.
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  Speaker 1: Upper House balance of power play.
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  Speaker 8: So it's entirely possible that one nation could hold the
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  Speaker 8: balance of power in the South Australian upper House, which
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  Speaker 8: would mean they'd be a serious player in South Australian politics.
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  Speaker 2: And Michael obviously the you know, if she added the
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  Speaker 2: Liberal vote and the National vote and the one Nation
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  Speaker 2: vote together, they could really give it a shape. But
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: they're finding each other and the Liberals are scared of
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  Speaker 2: preferencing one nation.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that so? Andrew?
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  Speaker 10: Historically we only do preference deals with the National Party,
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  Speaker 10: and of course the Labor Party never announced it preference
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  Speaker 10: deal with the Greens even though they have one in
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  Speaker 10: every state and federal election. They have one, but they
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  Speaker 10: never announce it. Why because there's always a group that
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  Speaker 10: will be turned off by that, and they don't want
• 16:08
  Speaker 10: to lose their primary votes, so they never announce it.
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  Speaker 10: So if we announce the preference deal with one Nation,
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  Speaker 10: there'll be a certain group of people that don't like that.
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  Speaker 10: So that's why you don't need to do a preference
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  Speaker 10: deal with one nation. But in Farah, clearly we should
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  Speaker 10: put the National Party candidate two, one Nation three and
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  Speaker 10: the Green Teal four. There shouldn't be any doubt about that.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, the only point is it's not Angus's decision.
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  Speaker 10: It's an organizational decision, and maybe that hasn't been made yet.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 10: But you don't need to announce preference deals with minor parties.
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  Speaker 10: Historically we do it with a national party and that's
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  Speaker 10: why they're probably not doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I would have thought i'd get on my
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  Speaker 2: bike if my party was in such a strife. But
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  Speaker 2: like I say, maybe they feel that they need to
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  Speaker 2: and then don't need to wear the odium of being
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  Speaker 2: in bed with one nation if one nation flops of
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: the poles, which I don't expect, actually not in a
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  Speaker 2: big way, Stephen. The latest poll is now showing that
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  Speaker 2: one Nation is taking support from labor as well working
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: class labor, and I suspect that's going to increase its
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: life gets tougher for Australians, particularly poor Australians. The Treasury
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: yesterday admitted that flation was going to get much higher
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: than he'd predicted. There seemed to me Stephen to be
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: using the war in Iran as a way to dodge
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: blame for his own financial mismanagement.
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  Speaker 11: Here is so, we've run a couple of scenarios which
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  Speaker 11: make it clear on some realistic assumptions about global oil
• 17:40
  Speaker 11: prices and how that would potentially flow through to inflation
• 17:44
  Speaker 11: and for how long. You know, if we're putting pencils
• 17:46
  Speaker 11: down on those forecasts today, we'd have inflation peaking somewhere
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  Speaker 11: between the mid.
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  Speaker 1: To high fours.
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  Speaker 11: The biggest variable, I mean, really the source of the
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  Speaker 11: most extraordinary volatility in our forecast and in the economy
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  Speaker 11: more broadly and more important is really how long this
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  Speaker 11: tracks out for.
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  Speaker 2: And in fact, the Reserve Bank tomorrow will meet to
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: decide whether to lift interest rates with the third time
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  Speaker 2: in the row. Stephen, it's looking a bit ugly for
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  Speaker 2: labor and for Australia, isn't it.
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  Speaker 8: Well, Look, there's no question that what Jim Chalmers just
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  Speaker 8: said is factually accurate. All around the world, people are
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: factoring in a higher interest rates because of the Mid
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: East War. So I think that's just factual. Then you
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: get into an argument about whether or not there was
• 18:35
  Speaker 8: going to be one. Before the war, the was only
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: going a few weeks, but it's had a massive disruption
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: in a few weeks. But whether or not the Reserve
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: Bank would have increased interest anyway is a legitimate debate. Now,
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: I've for a long time now, I been critical of
• 18:51
  Speaker 8: the Reserve Bank and its decisions. It said that they
• 18:55
  Speaker 8: wouldn't go up, then it kept them down too long,
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: and then yeah, blah blah blah. So I think the
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: Reserve Bank, if they look at the actual statistics, you
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: can see that the demand in the economy, the government
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: of retreating private sector is coming in, the zero chance
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  Speaker 8: of wage spiraling inflation because real wages are actually going
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: down at the moment, so there's no wage push. So
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: the key fundamental variables that the Reserve Bank usually point to,
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  Speaker 8: you know, unions, wage goes, Oh, we've got to clamp down,
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  Speaker 8: none of it exists. None of it exists. Government expenditure
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: is going to see all proportion of economy. Government expenditure
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: is getting smaller as a proportion of the economy, So
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: this crowding out argument doesn't even stand up for the
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: Reserve Bank anymore. But given the impact of the war.
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: It's possible that they might if they've got a backbone
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: and they can see through. There is no point in
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: putting up interest rates deal with a supply problem. Now,
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: Donald Trump isn't sitting there going I'm going to decide
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: whether to keep fighting for an extra a few weeks
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: because the Australian Reserve Bank thinks I shouldn't. So it's
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: fanciful to pretend the Reserve Bank should be putting up
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: interest rates for a supply side problem because it doesn't
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: affect anybody. No one's suddenly spending less.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me go to let me go to Michael
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: on that that's a sterling defense of the government. I
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: mean when you say it's you know, percentage of the
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: economy is falling. That's from a very high base under them. Michael,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: what do you make of that.
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: It's not falling?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Worry about the National accounts?
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: No, don't wory about the National COMNP.
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: You've read Angus's press release before the National accounts came out.
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: The government expenditures of percentage of GDP is twenty seven
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: percent and rising. Okay, it's not falling. As a percentage
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: of government expenditure of the GDP, it's rising the next
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: four years. The Ford accounts have one hundred, one hundred
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: and forty billion dollars of deficits. We have a spending
• 21:06
  Speaker 10: problem in this country and it's called Jim Charmans, the
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: weakest treasurer we've had since Wayne Swan Right. He can't
• 21:13
  Speaker 10: resist the demands on his expenditure and he is putting pressure.
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: You talk about the productive sector, you talk about a
• 21:19
  Speaker 10: supply side problem. He through his massive expenditure, is putting huge,
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: huge pressure on the building construction industry everywhere he spends money.
• 21:29
  Speaker 10: So the problem is this is a week treasure who
• 21:32
  Speaker 10: can only increase taxes. Talking about increase taxes, he can't
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: cut his own expenditure. And that's why as as a
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: percentage of GDP, government expendentire is the highest it's been
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: for a generation, apart from the pandemic that they are
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: the facts Andrew and we'll see in this budget he's
• 21:47
  Speaker 10: going to do something about increasing taxes, but can he
• 21:50
  Speaker 10: find any way of cutting government expenditure. Perhaps, Jim, start
• 21:53
  Speaker 10: with creative Australia. Start with this body creating Australia, which
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: you give three hundred million dollars to a year and
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: they spew out donations to artists who you know are
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: involved in violent antisemitism. Maybe start there, Jim, and that
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: would be a good place for you to begin, my friend.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: That's a very good place Michael. I will be referring
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: to that later in the show. Michael Kroger, Stephen Conroy,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: thank you very much to you. Both had a brain fade.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Earlier on I talked about Katherine King being the resources
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: of missions as Transport Minister's.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Madlin King is the other one. But there you go.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: After the break far right American superstar Tucker Carlson, So
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: the CIA is trying to get him charged as a
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: foreign agent.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: But did he get.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Tricked by the president into helping kill Iran Supreme Leader?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Intriguing developments?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Did Donald Trump use far right blowhard Tucker Carlson to
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: kill Iran Supreme Leader? Now Carson has more than eleven
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: million follows followers on social media where it's promoted. Vladimir
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Putin promoted the prohamas Katari government vilified Jews very often Israel,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: of course, and is now defending Iran.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: How do you a strong man and.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Tyron and despot that he doesn't defend he really is
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: that crazy. But Trump led him into the White House
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: three times last month to try to talk Trump out
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: of invading Iran, and looking at this picture of Rome,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: would have thought, that's Awhan there. Trump's going to listen
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: to him. Trump won't invade or not yet. But on
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: the weekend Carson had bombshell news. He had a tip
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: off that the CIA was investigating him.
• 23:39
  Speaker 12: CIA is preparing some kind of criminal referral against me,
• 23:43
  Speaker 12: a crime report to the Department of Justice on the
• 23:47
  Speaker 12: basis of a supposed crime I committed. What's that crime? Well,
• 23:51
  Speaker 12: talking to people in Iran before the war, they read
• 23:55
  Speaker 12: my texts.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: That Carson makes lots of stuff up. But if we
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: believe him, here he's being investigated for not registering as
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: an agent of a foreign power, which indeed he gives
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: every impression of being the way that he spreads fake
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: news about Israel that helps Iran like this.
• 24:14
  Speaker 12: In Qatar and Saudi Arabia, authorities arrested Massad agents planning
• 24:18
  Speaker 12: on committing bombings in those countries.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Fake news.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Siskatar source in Saudi Arabia say fake news. Not a
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: sceric of evidence has ever happened, and there was this
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: attempt to deny Iran was behind two assassination attempts on
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump?
• 24:35
  Speaker 12: Where did that intelligence come from that proved that the
• 24:38
  Speaker 12: government of Iran, run by the Ayatola, this religious leader,
• 24:44
  Speaker 12: try to assassinate the President of the United States twice?
• 24:47
  Speaker 12: Do we know where that came from? Oh, it came
• 24:48
  Speaker 12: from Israel. But maybe it doesn't show that because this
• 24:53
  Speaker 12: country has certainly been manipulated a lot by Israeli intelligence.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: In fact, one of the Iranian operatives accused actually confessed
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: it was an Iranian plot and he was found guilty
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: a week ago. The other is believed to be back
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: in Iran, and Israeli intelligence seems to have had almost
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with this. So how funny if Trump
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: knew exactly what Castle was up to talking to people
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: in Iran.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Almost certainly about Trump and spreading.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Pro Iranian propaganda in America and using Carlson, then Trump
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: using Carlton to dupy Irun Supreme leader.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: It's a relaxing.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: It's a relaxing enough that Kamana called a meeting in
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: his office of his top military leaders that Israel and
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the US then blasted into Kingdom come join him. Is
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: the country's top foreign affairs writer, Greg Sheridan of The
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Australian Craig It's great to see you. Donald Trump got
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: elected with the help of far right bloggers like Tucker
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Carlson and that even crazy anti semi you know, were
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Candae Owens. Now his blast them and making a fool
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: of Carlson, isn't he well.
• 26:05
  Speaker 13: Andrew that it's great to be with you. That was
• 26:07
  Speaker 13: fascinating little segment of yours. And that would be absolutely Trump,
• 26:11
  Speaker 13: wouldn't it. He So he knows Carlson is talking to
• 26:15
  Speaker 13: the Iranians, and he tells Carlson, I, look, don't worrybody,
• 26:19
  Speaker 13: I'm not going to do anything for at least another month.
• 26:23
  Speaker 13: I mean, I don't know that it's true, Andrew.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've got no inside.
• 26:26
  Speaker 13: Information in it, but it's it's just a wonderful Carlson
• 26:30
  Speaker 13: used to be a good journalist, you know, a long
• 26:33
  Speaker 13: time ago, and he's gone bananas, and going bananas has
• 26:37
  Speaker 13: got him a very big audience on the net, and
• 26:40
  Speaker 13: I think that's a very sad dynamic in the societies
• 26:44
  Speaker 13: that we live in.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Look, he is a disgusting presence. I'm so glad he
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: was sacked in from Fox News years ago with my
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: cheering at the time, Donald Trump asking China and European
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: allies to help clear these straight up of moors from
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Iran's blockage, you know, so shooting at oil tankers, etc.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Not one country said they'll help. Australia's not helping, should they?
• 27:13
  Speaker 13: Well, Andrew, we were out of the blocks, Legety split
• 27:16
  Speaker 13: to say before we're asked we wouldn't help. But I've
• 27:19
  Speaker 13: written a column about this in Tomorrow's Australian, Andrew, this
• 27:22
  Speaker 13: is really a grave national crisis. We couldn't help if
• 27:27
  Speaker 13: we wanted to Orianzac frigates. We got seven of them left,
• 27:30
  Speaker 13: but honestly, to deploy any of them would be a
• 27:32
  Speaker 13: form of elder abuse.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 27:33
  Speaker 13: They're so old and they've got eight and vertical launch
• 27:37
  Speaker 13: cells each. You cannot defend against a blizzard of missiles
• 27:41
  Speaker 13: and drones with eight vertical launch cells. You know, A
• 27:45
  Speaker 13: modern Korean destroyer one hundred and forty, and we've got
• 27:49
  Speaker 13: three warfare destroyers. One of them is in for long
• 27:53
  Speaker 13: term repairs, one of them is I understand not usable
• 27:57
  Speaker 13: at the moment. So if we sent the one that
• 28:00
  Speaker 13: we've got which has forty eight vertical launch cells.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: That would be the.
• 28:04
  Speaker 13: Entirety of our capable surface fleet so far. So this
• 28:08
  Speaker 13: is a monumental disgrace. Trump didn't ask us because he
• 28:12
  Speaker 13: knows that the Australian Navy is in effect defunct at
• 28:16
  Speaker 13: the moment. However, having said all that, I think Trump
• 28:20
  Speaker 13: has made a bit of a mess of this. I mean,
• 28:22
  Speaker 13: if you're right, if he knocks out the Iranian threat,
• 28:25
  Speaker 13: that's a tremendous success. It doesn't matter how messy it's
• 28:27
  Speaker 13: been along the way. But to abuse Keir Starmer one
• 28:31
  Speaker 13: day and say we don't need your ships for a
• 28:33
  Speaker 13: war we've already won, and then just a few days
• 28:36
  Speaker 13: later to say, please send us your ships on the
• 28:39
  Speaker 13: most dangerous mission you can imagine, keeping the straight of
• 28:42
  Speaker 13: hor Moves safe.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Look, it's just.
• 28:45
  Speaker 13: Pretty silly, you know, And I'm not surprised no one's
• 28:49
  Speaker 13: joining up. But the final thought is it's very easy
• 28:51
  Speaker 13: to block the straight of hor Moves. It's a very
• 28:54
  Speaker 13: narrow waterway. Iran has a long coastline there. You're virtually
• 28:58
  Speaker 13: going to have to destroy every missile launcher that Iran has.
• 29:03
  Speaker 13: I mean, the Israelis weren't able to do this in
• 29:05
  Speaker 13: Gaza after two years of war, and we've reached.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: A kind of a terrible star mate.
• 29:10
  Speaker 13: Now Iran can keep, as far as I can see,
• 29:13
  Speaker 13: can keep the straight up almost closed. I don't see
• 29:16
  Speaker 13: how Trump can open it. So he's either going to
• 29:19
  Speaker 13: have to declare victory and go home with Iran having
• 29:21
  Speaker 13: a veto over that, or he's going to have to
• 29:23
  Speaker 13: keep going until he knocks this regime out.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, I suspect you could be right, that said. You know,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I thought, yes, Trump has been a fool, insulting the
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Allies so gratrueousy, like even you know I'm going to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: invade green I might invade Greenland.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: All that kind of thing, and then asking for help.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: That said, I would have thought, you know, the interests
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: of the country should really be much greater than any
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: consideration of hurt feelings of their leaders. But there you go.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: It's not a perfect world. So where do you think
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: this war is going to end?
• 30:02
  Speaker 13: Well, it's honestly very hard to see, Andrew. Iran has
• 30:06
  Speaker 13: exercised its own kind of deterrence. It has caused a
• 30:11
  Speaker 13: global oil crisis. We in this country have a pitiful
• 30:14
  Speaker 13: thirty days of oil and the oil that we get
• 30:17
  Speaker 13: from Asia, most of that comes ultimately from the Middle East,
• 30:20
  Speaker 13: or a lot of it comes from the Middle East.
• 30:23
  Speaker 13: We're a long way away, and we're having a crisis
• 30:26
  Speaker 13: caused by Iran.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 30:28
  Speaker 13: I think we probably overestimated how quickly you could get
• 30:35
  Speaker 13: rid of this regime. It is a theocratic regime. I
• 30:38
  Speaker 13: hope to have been corrupted by money and no longer
• 30:41
  Speaker 13: really believed. But if you give them an armageddon moment,
• 30:45
  Speaker 13: you might get an armageddon response, and you know there
• 30:48
  Speaker 13: are things they can do worse than they're doing now.
• 30:53
  Speaker 13: Then you've got the other question of the stockpile of
• 30:56
  Speaker 13: uranium enriched to sixty percent. Trump is basically right when
• 31:01
  Speaker 13: he says, if we don't sort this out now, we'll
• 31:04
  Speaker 13: probably have to come back in five years and do
• 31:06
  Speaker 13: it all again. On the other hand, there's not much
• 31:11
  Speaker 13: indication yet that the regime shows any sign of really
• 31:15
  Speaker 13: cracking up. I mean, there's no disunity in the regime.
• 31:19
  Speaker 13: They're murdering and killing their own people, very very happily.
• 31:22
  Speaker 13: They've terrified those poor innocent Iranian soccer players. I think
• 31:27
  Speaker 13: Tony Burke made a great mistake making himself the center
• 31:30
  Speaker 13: of that story and posting all the pictures on international
• 31:32
  Speaker 13: media and everything. So at some point I guess there'll
• 31:38
  Speaker 13: be a cease fire because even the Iranians won't want
• 31:41
  Speaker 13: to go for more pain. But I don't know at
• 31:44
  Speaker 13: that Sea spire whether we've stopped Iran from shutting the
• 31:47
  Speaker 13: straits of Homers or stopped it from causing and an
• 31:51
  Speaker 13: international economic crisis whenever it wants to.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the irony is of course, the worst that he
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: ran acts, the more recklessly it seems to allow them
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: to have any strength at all. So it's a catch
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: twenty two Greek Sheridan, thank you so much for your
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: time after the break the story that Michael Kroger, the
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: scandal that Michael Kroger referred to earlier, Why were our
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: taxes used by the Sydney Arts Festival to call from
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: the destruction of Israel? And where is Arts Minister Tony
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Burke The Sydney Swan's cutting out the word Jewish from
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: a tribute to the Bondo massacre of people that are
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: a Jewish festival is one thing. Even worse, it's the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Sydney bin Ari that's a Swiss arts festival funded by you,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: funded by taxpayers the federal New South Wales government and
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: as I said last week, the being early hired as
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: an artistic director who at Al Kazimi, an anti Zionist
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: daughter of the authoritary rule of Chajar in the Middle East,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: and she promptly stacked the festival with more than forty
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: arches and exhibitions which were not just Palestinian but Arab
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: or Muslim, and they included a break dancer, Palistinine Australian
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: who likened a long time Jewish sponsor and be an
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: early board member to a Nazi. And what do you
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: being surprised? You know, what do you expect? On opening
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: night last Friday? Totally predictably, one of those acts, DJ Harram,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: an American DJ, started her opening night set by attacking Israel,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: of course, what you called the zionsthentity, accusing it of
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: genocide and leading the crowd into chance of long live
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: the resistance and glory to all our martyrs. This is
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: a well and Intifada, joining mere Lisa Goddard, former foreign
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: correspondent and founder of an Only Media, and Scarne his
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: host Anikin to Georgio Lisa Godard, Home Affairs and US
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Minister Tony Burker said absolutely nothing about this gross abuse
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: of our money?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Should he?
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: Andrew, are you surprised at all that there's silence from
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: Tony Burke. It's look, it's not electorally beneficial is it
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: for Tony Burke to come out and comment on anything
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: that is anti Israel? But I think you're right. It
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: is absolutely disgusting. The figures that I looked up, they're
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: saying two point five million dollars in funding from all
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: three levels of government, predominantly nearly nine hundred thousand dollars
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: from the federal government, and yet Tony Burke is silent
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: on this. At least the new South Wales Arts Minister
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: had the good faith to come out and condemn what
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: happened at this festival. But really the arts community just
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: don't learn. They just want to double down, double down.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Look at what happened at the Adelaide Writers' Festival, then
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: you have that same person an apology given that invited
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: to be part of the Sydney Arts Festival. They just
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: don't want to change. And at the end of the day,
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: it's our taxpayer dollars that are funding this onstage hatred
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: that's allowed to spew out.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Bizarre, is it, Georgia.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, why so many Muslim or Arab acts in
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: a Sydney BINALI like this is being rammed down. I'm
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: not even including all the other anti Zionist crew that
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: they invited as well.
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: No, well, exactly right, and I agree.
• 35:05
  Speaker 14: I think that Tony Burke is silent on this because
• 35:07
  Speaker 14: he's been silent on this issue since day dot, since
• 35:10
  Speaker 14: October seven. He doesn't want to upset his base, doesn't
• 35:12
  Speaker 14: want to upset the Muslim vote. And he's more comfortable,
• 35:16
  Speaker 14: as we know, talking about gun laws and talking about
• 35:19
  Speaker 14: neo Nazis. That's what he feels most comfortable in. But
• 35:21
  Speaker 14: when it comes to issues like this, he doesn't want.
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: A bar of it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 14: Look, these festivals have become real hatred. They are disgusting
• 35:28
  Speaker 14: and they don't just attract Andrew the pro Palestine, the
• 35:31
  Speaker 14: anti Israel mob.
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: They are a real plethora of people.
• 35:34
  Speaker 14: It's the climate change mageddon, crewe, You've got the LGBTQ.
• 35:38
  Speaker 14: Everybody seems to just hop onto the same same bandwagon.
• 35:43
  Speaker 14: But the problem here is the money that is coming
• 35:46
  Speaker 14: from the taxpayer, millions of dollars of being spent to
• 35:49
  Speaker 14: see these people come on stage this DJ Haram spew hate.
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, but it's absolutely unacceptable.
• 35:56
  Speaker 14: Where is the minister in charge and why has he
• 35:58
  Speaker 14: not offered up an explanation as to why nine hundred
• 36:01
  Speaker 14: thousand dollars has come from the federal government.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I don't get it either.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: But what really gets me, of course, is all these
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: artists seem to think, you know, they're brave, freethinkers, independent,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: they think for themselves. Did they hunt in pacts or
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: buying like antizon as Sheep all of the same, you know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: and not daring to have any whiff of arguing back
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: at them. I mean, it's just incredible. Tony Burke, Look,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: this is a really sensitive one. Tony Burke has also
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: been embarrassed by the fact that five of the seven
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Uranian soccer team members that he last week granted protection
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: visas to have now headed home instead. Now that's after
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: he pose with five of them, you know, posing he
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: is a Western man with women from a theocratic Muslim
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: country now with the head scarfs off. I mean, I
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: know it's their decision or that, Lisa, but I just
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: wonder whether this has been handled well because there's also
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: allegations that Burke lit in one of the minders as
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: well as the players. You know, she claims she also
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: wanted protection, but she allegedly allegedly passed on threats to
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: their families. Has now gone back with the five.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, look Andrew, as you know, this was front page
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: news for days.
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: So for Tony Burke to put these.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Women who made it a very difficult and very brave
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: decision in my opinion, to decide to stay in Australia,
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: for him to line them up and have a photograph
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: or photographs with them. If we've all been in that
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: situation where someone asks you for a photograph, photograph, beat
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: a group photo or one on one and you feel uncomfortable,
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: but you go ahead and do it, could you imagine
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: the type of pressure these women would have faced.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: And not only that, were they even.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: In a position to make a smart choice about whether
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: they should be in a photograph at all. As a minister,
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: it is his job and his responsibility and his duty
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: of care, I would argue to those women to not
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: put them in that situation at all, because, of course
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: it becomes political propaganda for the other side.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Well exactly, it encourages the Iranium regime to try and
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  Speaker 2: counter the propaganda.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think of it, Danika.
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  Speaker 14: Well, they actually have already tried to counter the propaganda.
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  Speaker 14: The Iranian regime came out today calling this a victory
• 38:20
  Speaker 14: of sorts, saying it's actually a failure for Donald Trump
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  Speaker 14: that the five women have already left Australia. Look, I've
• 38:27
  Speaker 14: been saying this for the past week. The minister has
• 38:30
  Speaker 14: spent the last seven days smiling like a cheshier cat
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  Speaker 14: because this was easy political fodder for him. This is
• 38:37
  Speaker 14: what he wanted to talk about. It was easy to
• 38:39
  Speaker 14: talk about the Iranian soccer players. Look, we've done the
• 38:41
  Speaker 14: right thing here and credit where it's dude. They did
• 38:44
  Speaker 14: do the right thing, but Labor was late to the
• 38:45
  Speaker 14: party and only did it because Donald Trump pushed them.
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  Speaker 14: But it is a very dangerous and a very precarious
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  Speaker 14: situation where you now possibly have one woman who was
• 38:54
  Speaker 14: counted as a staffer for the Iranian soccer team infiltrating
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  Speaker 14: and being apparently the one who influenced them to go
• 39:00
  Speaker 14: back home. That is a worry because they're meant to
• 39:03
  Speaker 14: be in a safe zone, they're meant to be away
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  Speaker 14: from the regime, and they were still able to be infiltrated, though.
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  Speaker 14: I will say there was an a Rainian Australian woman
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  Speaker 14: on Chris Kenny Show earlier and she said that a
• 39:13
  Speaker 14: number of these women had been receiving text messages saying
• 39:16
  Speaker 14: your family are missing.
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  Speaker 7: They've disappeared. Can you imagine the pressure on them to
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: try and make.
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  Speaker 14: A quick decision do I go home or do I
• 39:24
  Speaker 14: stay here and save my own life?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I can't imagine.
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  Speaker 14: They're in their early twenties having this burden on them,
• 39:31
  Speaker 14: and I really do despair and I fear for what
• 39:34
  Speaker 14: could await them in Iran right now.
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: It is really really sad.
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  Speaker 1: But Lisa, it's weird, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: So Tony Burkers aligned them all up to have photographs
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: with him. Him in the middle of smiling is the
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: hero who save them. This is people fleeing a very
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: dangerous regime which is issued threats again them, which is
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: sponsored terror attacks in Australia. Why would you put their
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: face up there and say come and get them. I
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: would not say come and get them, but make them
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: such an obvious target of high value.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're absolutely right, it did exactly that. It
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: made them a target the Iranians already knew who wasn't
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: coming back to put the photo up there just confirms
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: it for them. And like Danika said, I can't imagine
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: the type of pressure that these women were under and
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: the threats that would have been being made to their
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: families at home. So they had a terrible decision to make.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: But as I said before, Tony Burke did not do,
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: in my opinion, the right thing. Where was his duty
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: of care to these women. And when it comes to
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: the team member who was also in there with them,
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: who's being held accountable for that? Where are we going
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: to see some questions being asked as some real accountability
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: around what type of security, what type of interrogation was
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: done to make sure that these women were safe? And
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: they weren't they were protected from that Iranian overreach which
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: as you say, we know reaches Australia. So I just
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: I think that they were. They were just left out there,
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: fully exposed. And you're right, it was all after the headlines.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: But Tony Burke, it was all about the headlines. The
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: news cycle was so hungry for it, so he was
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: just feeding that news machine.
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  Speaker 1: Lissa god D, Nika di Georgia, thank you, very much
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: to you both.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: After the break, I'll talk to our regular Monday commentator
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: who got in the middle of a angry and angry
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: anti Israel protests in London. Does this help me explain
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: why britain S Prime minister won't join the US war
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: with Iran. Now, at the top of the show played
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: you Donald Trump saying other countries like Britain should help
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: the US protect oil tankers, that Iran is attacking the
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Persian Gulf together the oil moving again and stop an
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: economic crisis. Well, no surprise, but the first reaction to
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: britain Sprime minister is to say no. So, why is
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Kee's Stamer so reluctant to help the US Is because
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: it's too dangerous to job? Or is it because it's
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: so scared of Britain speak Muslim minority? Well joining him
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: from London is Talk TV host Samara Gil who yesterday
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: got very close and personal with some of that minority
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: at an annual anti Israel protest, and a very angry
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: one that this time included pro Iran chants and slogans
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: as well. Samara Gil, thank you for joining me. Great
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: to see you're in the still one piece. What did
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: you see at this protest that it explain anything about
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Kirstarmer's refusal to back America and has repeated insistence on TV.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with this attack on Iran.
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  Speaker 15: Hi, Andrew, it's great to be with you and yes
• 42:49
  Speaker 15: all in one piece. Just I mean I was mobbed,
• 42:52
  Speaker 15: I had been swarmed, I had intimidation tactics used on
• 42:56
  Speaker 15: me at about twenty Muslim man try to drive me
• 43:01
  Speaker 15: out of the protest live streaming. It was a hell
• 43:04
  Speaker 15: of an experience and something I never thought I would
• 43:07
  Speaker 15: actually go through in London, let alone, when there was
• 43:10
  Speaker 15: about a thousand police officers just standing by doing absolutely
• 43:14
  Speaker 15: nothing to help me.
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: It was shocking.
• 43:18
  Speaker 15: It was horrendous and I just cannot believe that England
• 43:22
  Speaker 15: has let this level of extremism into the country. And
• 43:26
  Speaker 15: you're right, it's dictating foreign policy massively. I mean, you've
• 43:30
  Speaker 15: got Keir Starmer, our lowly prime minister sort of more
• 43:34
  Speaker 15: focused on managing party politics than projecting strength abroad. You know,
• 43:39
  Speaker 15: Britain needs clarity and conviction on security at this time,
• 43:43
  Speaker 15: not this careful triangulation that he continues to push. And
• 43:48
  Speaker 15: I think we're really struggling as a public over here
• 43:51
  Speaker 15: at the moment, the situation is dire. It really seems
• 43:55
  Speaker 15: like the country is on a knife edge right now
• 43:57
  Speaker 15: because we don't have someone who is uniting the people
• 44:00
  Speaker 15: in the Number ten office right now, where I was
• 44:04
  Speaker 15: meant to be. But that's a longer story. For some reason,
• 44:07
  Speaker 15: we didn't get accreditation this morning. I wonder why. You know,
• 44:11
  Speaker 15: Keir Starmer is running this country a little bit like
• 44:14
  Speaker 15: a dictator, but someone who doesn't have the conviction of one.
• 44:17
  Speaker 15: And it's very, very scary the path that this country's
• 44:21
  Speaker 15: going down because, as you very early on said, Andrew,
• 44:25
  Speaker 15: and you were quite right, as per usual, he's playing
• 44:28
  Speaker 15: party politics and he's actually putting national security at risk
• 44:31
  Speaker 15: in order to secure the Muslim vote that he so
• 44:34
  Speaker 15: desperately needs.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: But Samarah, what you see in these protests in Britain
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: doesn't differ much from the anti Israel protests we get here,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I mean almost weekly in Melbourne, but also in other states.
• 44:52
  Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a great question. You know, I've covered so
• 44:55
  Speaker 15: many protests over the years, and the pro Palestine protests
• 45:00
  Speaker 15: usually have a sort of middle class hand ringing vibe
• 45:03
  Speaker 15: to them, where you get a lot of blue head
• 45:05
  Speaker 15: idiots who just don't know what they're talking about and
• 45:08
  Speaker 15: have seen a TikTok and decided to show up to
• 45:10
  Speaker 15: a march. What we saw yesterday at the Alcudes Day protest,
• 45:15
  Speaker 15: which was very much about recognizing the Iyatola in all
• 45:19
  Speaker 15: his greatness. Many that I spoke to compared the Iatola
• 45:23
  Speaker 15: to the Pope and were crying that he was dead
• 45:26
  Speaker 15: on a London street, which is just baffling to me.
• 45:30
  Speaker 15: This was very much about sort of touting Islamic extremism.
• 45:34
  Speaker 15: There was death to the idf chance, there was kill
• 45:38
  Speaker 15: the Jews. I got sworn at on multiple occasions, almost
• 45:43
  Speaker 15: physically assaulted. This was a very aggressive march, something that
• 45:47
  Speaker 15: I haven't witnessed so horribly before. You know, usually with
• 45:52
  Speaker 15: pro Palestine marches it's a little bit more dour. This
• 45:55
  Speaker 15: was the really ugly side of the movement, and I
• 45:58
  Speaker 15: think that the war Iran has just perpetuated that and
• 46:02
  Speaker 15: brought people out of their homes the likes of which
• 46:05
  Speaker 15: we haven't really seen before. It was extremism.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Look at it is frightening.
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  Speaker 2: I've really got my eyes open when I saw parts
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: of London last time I was there, and also I
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: went to cities like up in Yorkshire and all that, which.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I was wondering what country I
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: was in.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Britain's Telegraph newspaper, Samara, it's reporting that foreign off
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: as staff last month. This is just before the war,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: not after the war started, went to the Reignian embassy
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: to help it actually celebrate its Islamic revolution. What is
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: that forty seven years ago, and this is just after
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: the regime slaughtered up to thirty six thousand democracy.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Protesters just in January alone.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Is that appropriate for them to turn up and say, yeah,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: a great thing to help you celebrate this regime and
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: this revolution.
• 47:05
  Speaker 15: It's the opposite of appropriate. It's a fireable offense. I
• 47:08
  Speaker 15: do not know why people haven't been sacked over this,
• 47:11
  Speaker 15: the fact that they're basically wistfully sipping champagne in some
• 47:15
  Speaker 15: sort of fancy office in Westminster, celebrating the Iatoler's regime, which,
• 47:20
  Speaker 15: after you said, you know, had already killed thousands upon
• 47:24
  Speaker 15: thousands of people, not by killing them on the street,
• 47:27
  Speaker 15: but by actually taking them into hospitals and machine gunning
• 47:30
  Speaker 15: them down so that it wasn't in the public eye.
• 47:32
  Speaker 15: That's what the Iotola was doing at the time that
• 47:34
  Speaker 15: some civil servants and the blob, which is so bloated
• 47:38
  Speaker 15: and overpaid and overindulged, was doing. It's quite ridiculous that
• 47:43
  Speaker 15: this is going on in this country. But it shows
• 47:45
  Speaker 15: how we're so happy to turn a blind eye to
• 47:49
  Speaker 15: extremism if it's packaged in the right way and if
• 47:52
  Speaker 15: it's palatable for the right people, and if it can
• 47:54
  Speaker 15: pander and gets some votes in the bag. And I
• 47:57
  Speaker 15: think it's a really slippery slope. This country's going down.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Well, it sure is, Samara.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I you know, maybe Donald Trump and j D. Vans
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: are up to something when they talk about the decline
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: of the West, particularly Europe. When you're looking at this,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: you can't help think they may be blunt, they may
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: be rude, they may shit themselves in the foot, but
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: they may have a point.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Samara Gill, thank you so much.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Indeed, I urge people going over look at your videos
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: on Instagram and elsewhere and X to see what you
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: went through. Very good work. That's it for tonight. Up
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: next to this Sharry Markson, But for me, it's good night.