Latest / philly has heART / Works on Paper Gallery feat. Evan Slepian
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- 0:14Hey, Lucinda. Hey, Robert. I previously had Robert's
- 0:18microphone turned off, guys. Whoops. Yep. Well,
- 0:22now I know how you really feel. That's not true.
- 0:25That's not true. Well, we got to hang out this
- 0:28weekend. And any weekend when I get to see Robert
- 0:30is a good one. Yeah. We went to First Friday,
- 0:34and this time we went to First Friday in Old
- 0:37City. And we got to see some of our favorite
- 0:40friends. Friends of the pod. We hit them all
- 0:43up. Well, we missed a special one. Well, that's
- 0:46true. Our faves, Museum for Art and Wood. We
- 0:49had to get to our reservation. That's okay. We'll
- 0:52see you next time. Exactly. Yes, we will. Yes,
- 0:54we will. Always. Okay, list two we saw. We saw
- 0:58Jane Gallery. We saw Muse Gallery. We saw...
- 1:05Surely that's not all. We saw the Ministry of
- 1:09All. Ministry of All. Oh my gosh. We got to see
- 1:12Meg. We got to see Lynn. We got to see Mary.
- 1:15The trifecta's all there. Yes. And they had an
- 1:19opera singer right outside the Ministry of All.
- 1:22I think it was more like... An opera troupe?
- 1:25An opera troupe. It was great that that was actually
- 1:28going on because it pulled people down that alley.
- 1:31Because I don't know if people know this right
- 1:33now, like the front... entrance to ministry of
- 1:36all is closed due to all the construction so
- 1:40you have to go down the back entrance that's
- 1:44through an alley to get in to the bank building
- 1:47which is also super super cool and here's meg
- 1:51making art with her friends and neighbors while
- 1:56first friday is going on amazing it's a blast
- 1:59of a time last night i went to ballet x a man
- 2:02how was it Amazing. During the first act, there
- 2:08was a downpour, which really added to the ambiance
- 2:10of the performance. As soon as the first act
- 2:14concluded, Petit Garçon said, I stayed up during
- 2:18the entire thing. And I'm like, that's half of
- 2:21it. And the oldest one was being a little naughty.
- 2:26So we actually left right before the second act
- 2:29started. Gotcha. I'm really regretting that,
- 2:32but it was amazing. Can't put words to it. Yeah.
- 2:36Oh, I saw Eli's mama. Love that woman. Love that
- 2:39Southern woman. Eli, friend of the pod. Yes.
- 2:42Hey, we only have this recording studio for 11
- 2:45more minutes, so let's get to the conversation.
- 2:48To the convo. This is Robert Marsh, and you're
- 3:04listening to Philly Has Heart podcast. In this
- 3:07podcast, we sit down with artists, gallerists,
- 3:10educators, curators, and other creatives who
- 3:14comprise the Philadelphia art world to discuss
- 3:16upcoming performances, exhibits, and other events
- 3:20and initiatives that are not to be missed. The
- 3:24art scene in Philadelphia is so rich that it
- 3:27can seem daunting. Consider this your weekend
- 3:30cultural recommendation. With me always is my
- 3:34producer, Lucinda Dyerland. Hello, hello. And
- 3:37today we have Evan of Works on Paper Gallery.
- 3:41We're so happy to have you. Nice to be here.
- 3:44So Evan, can you share your E! True Hollywood
- 3:47story with us and tell us a little bit about
- 3:50yourself? Trying to figure out whether that was
- 3:51real or not. Yeah, I opened up in 1995. I had
- 3:57a partner. I was actually working for another
- 4:00gallery, and he was a client of theirs. And he
- 4:04approached me to open up a gallery. At 24 years
- 4:07old, I said yes. Wow. And I bought them out 10
- 4:10years later. Wow. Made that deal to move upstairs,
- 4:14kind of keep the Rittenhouse Square address.
- 4:17And I've been there 30 years. That's incredible.
- 4:21That's the quick story. The quick painless story.
- 4:25That's perfectly fine. That's perfectly fine.
- 4:27It sounds good. Yes. Trust me. Yes. No, I'm sure
- 4:31it's had its ups and downs. And breaking points.
- 4:34Right. You've seen probably so many artists come
- 4:38in and out there throughout the years. I had
- 4:42so many different partnerships through that time.
- 4:45that you've seen probably artists start from
- 4:48nothing to grow to something or artists from
- 4:51something grow to nothing because it can go either
- 4:54way. Oh, yeah. It's a tough business. And so
- 4:57with, you know, works on paper as a 30 -something
- 5:00-year -old business, which is older than many
- 5:03of that we've had on the pot already, what words
- 5:08would you share? for someone who wants to pursue
- 5:12a career like yours as a gallerist? Oh, wow.
- 5:16Like what I just said, I'm ready to jump into
- 5:18the cold pool. Yeah. Just rip that band -aid
- 5:22off. Right. Every time there was a breaking point,
- 5:25it was a test of my passion for it. It's where
- 5:30I stretched my most for the connections I had.
- 5:33It's where I was at my weakest. Yeah. Having
- 5:36a good support system around it. So every time
- 5:39I thought it was going to break, that rubber
- 5:41band snapped back. It's three times now, including
- 5:46now. What drives you to choose the artists that
- 5:49you do? That I've been trying to figure out for
- 5:51a long time. The one thing I do know is that
- 5:53I think based on survival in this business, meaning
- 5:57selling art all the time, I must have a good
- 6:00eye. Somebody else has got to tell me that, but
- 6:04I could probably. count out the ways of why I
- 6:07think I have a good eye. Just because of the
- 6:09things I've had access to, the artists that I've
- 6:12showcased and done well with, and I've definitely
- 6:14had artists that I haven't done well with, where
- 6:16my eye didn't work. It's not just the eye, it's
- 6:20the access. Whether or not you think your clientele
- 6:23will like it. I get approached by tons of artists
- 6:25where I like their work, but I'm like, I don't
- 6:27think my clientele will buy this, so I kind of
- 6:29push that aside. So whatever tastes or whatever...
- 6:34I'm looking for, it just comes out of me and
- 6:37the connections I have. Instagram's amazing.
- 6:40The art schools are amazing. Referrals are amazing.
- 6:44I mean, other galleries doing well with artists
- 6:46that I can connect with where we can share artists
- 6:48is an opportunity. Anytime there's an opportunity
- 6:52to put an artist out there. Yeah, and how much
- 6:55is the clientele really driving those decisions?
- 7:01those, those sways from, from where you thought.
- 7:04So I guess it's chicken, chicken or egg, chicken
- 7:07or egg. So I started buying, I had to be the
- 7:10one that opened up. So I was the one that was
- 7:12buying the stuff and I, I got the city's attention
- 7:15at the beginning. Yeah. So that I didn't know
- 7:18if I had a good eye. I thought at that point
- 7:20at that age, I just had good access. You know,
- 7:23I didn't really know my eye at that age. And
- 7:28did you go to school? I went to the University
- 7:31of Maryland. I'm a Terp. I'm a Terp. I'm a Terp.
- 7:35No way. Look at these connections. Bachelor of
- 7:39Arts. Okay. I went to the Maryland school. Architecture,
- 7:45planning, and preservation. That's how I started
- 7:47in architecture, and then my teacher told me
- 7:49to leave. Wait, which one? I don't remember the
- 7:52teacher. It may have been a dinosaur that was
- 7:54still there by the time I was there. Oh, I know.
- 7:55It was whatever project I submitted that he gracefully
- 7:58gave me a D on. He was like, you should be an
- 8:01artist. Because I didn't understand. Wow. I went
- 8:04in it as an art project. Right. Architecture
- 8:06school, and I had no idea, and he was like, pew.
- 8:08And the art school is right across the street
- 8:11there from the architecture school. Yeah. Yeah.
- 8:14Yeah. So I did sculpture, painting, drawing,
- 8:17all of it. It did take some art history, but
- 8:20that was just prerequisites. Gotcha. We'll catch
- 8:23up offline. But yeah. Yeah. So Bachelor of Arts.
- 8:27That's incredible. Yeah. And then right into
- 8:30the gallery from there. I waited tables and then
- 8:34got wind of a gallery that had an opening. So
- 8:39I took it. I got it. And then like a year, year
- 8:43and a half later, my ex -partner was one of his
- 8:47clients, called me up, had lunch with him, gave
- 8:50me an option to open up the gallery with a deal
- 8:52I probably couldn't refuse. Wow. I had an opportunity
- 8:56with moving upstairs, kind of a real estate deal,
- 9:01where I was able to get out of my lease downstairs
- 9:04and get out of my partnership with my ex -partner.
- 9:08Wow. By moving upstairs. Yep. And at the time,
- 9:11it was a pretty good move, but I had no idea
- 9:13it was going to last that long. So I'm always
- 9:16looking to, I'm always reinventing myself in
- 9:18that place. That's good. And when you're building
- 9:22that gallery, just at the start, do you lean
- 9:27more towards new and emerging artists, or do
- 9:31you try to find a mixture? I didn't know anything
- 9:34when I was opening up the gallery. It was my
- 9:36ex -partner's thought process and idea. So at
- 9:40that moment, and part of the reason we were called
- 9:42Works on Paper was we sold mainly blue chip prints,
- 9:45prints from the 60s and 70s and 80s. I mean,
- 9:49I was literally allowed to call the Roy Lichtenstein
- 9:51studio up and say, how many of those prints you
- 9:54got left? I'll take two. Wow. I was right at
- 9:57the tail end of that market. I got in at a good
- 9:59time because 89 was a big crash. By 95, it was
- 10:04recovering. 96, 97, I was in business. So timing
- 10:08and access and connectability. That's why I praise
- 10:12my ex -partner all the time. But yeah, at the
- 10:14beginning it was mostly prints, I would say.
- 10:18But, you know, I'm a breed. Half artist, half
- 10:20business person. That I connected with artists
- 10:23really well. So I would do exhibitions with shows,
- 10:25with paintings, drawings, photographs. I experimented
- 10:29with everything at the beginning to see where
- 10:30my market was. I can't sell photography. I know
- 10:33that. Gotcha. I don't think a lot of people in
- 10:36the city can. I was going to ask, does anybody?
- 10:38It's a tough market in this city, but I had to
- 10:40try and figure it out myself. And do you think
- 10:42that's specific to Philadelphia? I'm still trying
- 10:46to figure that out. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I don't
- 10:50know how to answer that. Yeah. It always has
- 10:54been a tough market anyway, Philadelphia. Once
- 10:58you get in sort of the higher end collecting,
- 11:00a lot of people go to New York. It's a much bigger
- 11:03business there. I mean, I was going to New York
- 11:05there for a while. When you started, was there
- 11:09ever a point where you're like, this doesn't
- 11:14work for me? One, three, five years. I was told
- 11:18that. Yeah. I was told that. Oh, okay, by the
- 11:21partner. By the partner. You better get this
- 11:23right. My deal, I guess it doesn't matter. My
- 11:26deal was if you can keep this up for five years,
- 11:29I'll give you 50 % of the business. But you have
- 11:32this amount of money to start with. And then
- 11:33it's over. It's almost like sweat equity. That's
- 11:37what it is. That's what it is, yeah. It was sweat
- 11:39equity. So I opened up in October of 95. Really,
- 11:44I made the deal with them in May. worked out
- 11:46of his office for two months. He was in advertising.
- 11:48So I worked out of his office for two months,
- 11:50you know, cause he started the business with
- 11:52a, with a collection of stuff. And then we had
- 11:54to go buy stuff. And it was just like, that was
- 11:56my home base. Right. First computer. I mean,
- 12:01I know they taught us when we were kids. No,
- 12:05no, no, no, no. That wasn't even, yeah. Wasn't
- 12:08even on the plate until I had probably like a
- 12:10year after I opened, but that's a whole nother
- 12:13story. Yeah. That's it. I mean, So that was a
- 12:16deal. If you can keep it open for five years.
- 12:18January of 96, so that's about six months later,
- 12:22I come knocking on his door and saying, I need
- 12:25six grand or I'm not going to stay open. And
- 12:29he gave it to me. That was that really bad winter.
- 12:32So nobody was coming in. I had no money. And
- 12:34I didn't understand budgeting or anything. And
- 12:37he gave it to me. and I never had to borrow another
- 12:42dollar ever since. In fact, I wrote him a nice
- 12:44big check when I made that move. Wow. Yeah, so
- 12:47he made out on that deal. That's incredible.
- 12:49I made out, too. We both made out. Yeah. I'm
- 12:51still talking to him. Right. Oh, that's perfect.
- 12:53That's great. That's a good partnership, then.
- 12:56Still doing business. I'm here 30 years. I was
- 12:58only partners with him for 10. Right. How do
- 13:01you find a balance of the inventory that you
- 13:05keep on hand? I don't even know. So you have
- 13:10inventory, right? At the beginning, he started
- 13:13me with X amount of dollars and X amount of pieces
- 13:15in inventory, and then I open up the door and
- 13:18I try and sell some stuff. He was... And kind
- 13:21of the first couple years, he just loved – he
- 13:24had an addiction of buying art at auctions. And
- 13:27he would just buy stuff and then force me to
- 13:29pay for it. And I'm like, how are you going to
- 13:31pay for it? He goes, no, you'll figure it out.
- 13:33You'll figure it out. So he was doing a little
- 13:35buying at the beginning, which always frustrated
- 13:37me because I was always like, no, that's not
- 13:38what I – I don't like that. That's how I figured
- 13:40out my eye. Like a lot of that inventory, you
- 13:43know, I had to dump or I don't have or, you know,
- 13:46like I couldn't sell. I never really connected
- 13:48with it with the client. And my eyes always went
- 13:51towards, you know, the Warhol Marilyn, like right
- 13:55to the better looking stuff. And so, yeah, so
- 13:59over time I stopped him from doing that and started
- 14:02taking more charge. And then by year seven, like
- 14:06I knew I needed to buy him out. Right, right.
- 14:08And how do you keep that balance now? Well, so
- 14:12with art that has secondary market value. Over
- 14:16the years, I'm always, like, whenever times get
- 14:18bad, I'm always dumping it. You know, my wife,
- 14:21she goes, we just got that show on Scully. And
- 14:24I'm like, I know, I know, bad month, bad month.
- 14:26So, like, I just stopped keeping, like, all the
- 14:28stuff in my house now is all personal things
- 14:30that I would never want to part with. Right.
- 14:32The gallery is what I use for, you know, investing
- 14:34or putting money into. Gotcha. Also along the
- 14:39years, I end up buying artists' works by artists
- 14:41that I work with. I put up a show or I curate
- 14:45a show, and I want the best piece if I can afford
- 14:48it that day. So I buy a lot of artists' works.
- 14:52I deal in the secondary market stuff, and one
- 14:55of the other components that I did way from the
- 14:58beginning but wasn't very good at it and had
- 15:00to learn how to do it was publishing editions
- 15:03and multiples. So I was doing that from day one.
- 15:06Wow. I have over 50 to 75 editions under my belt,
- 15:10like from day one. That's incredible. Subbing
- 15:12it out to an expert to hand printing them on
- 15:16the floor in the gallery just to get the budget
- 15:19right. Wow. So all of those components, so what
- 15:23you say about inventory, it's a mixture of all
- 15:25that stuff. Right. And the one thing I've found
- 15:29as I get further along in this, I'd rather not
- 15:31have as much stuff. Yeah, right, right. You want
- 15:35to keep it light. Or figure out the supply and
- 15:38demand of the project so that you can. continually
- 15:44make stuff but always be selling it. And that's,
- 15:47you know, I always did it as a passion at the
- 15:50forefront. But once I figured out that my business
- 15:52sense was better, it was nice to combine the
- 15:56two and pick the right things to do it with.
- 15:59So we've had some success over the years with
- 16:01additions and multiples. At this point in your
- 16:04career, have you also found ways to work with
- 16:08a collector or a client? know what they're looking
- 16:14for, and then be a very quick in -between, right?
- 16:19That's my whole life. If you want to ask me one
- 16:23thing that's kept me around for 30 years, it
- 16:25was being able to do that, recognize it at the
- 16:29beginning, have access to things. So the internet,
- 16:32bring back the internet. Didn't know it 10 years
- 16:35before, but... That kind of changed the game
- 16:38a little bit when everybody knows what everything's
- 16:41worth. You're not much of a dealer, are you?
- 16:45A dealer in what? The same information they can
- 16:47access on their phone? Right. So you have to
- 16:50have a little more savviness these days to try
- 16:53and make money on it when things are so relatively
- 16:56clear. There's things when there's only a few
- 16:59around in the world, it's a different story.
- 17:01When there's, you know, every city has one. you
- 17:06know, what's your market? Who are you playing
- 17:08against? And are you finding that your partnerships
- 17:12are better with other galleries or better with
- 17:15other artists? It's all, every project is different.
- 17:18Everything that has the ability to alchemize,
- 17:23I like to call it, where two people can go and
- 17:25take something and make it into something. Everything's
- 17:29different. So I'm doing projects with artists,
- 17:31shows with artists, relationships with buildings
- 17:34where they want to fill their floors. I'm working
- 17:37on a really nice Warhol deal right now. So if
- 17:41you want to be in this business, learn how to
- 17:42juggle. Yes. You need to find a few things that
- 17:45work. Yes. Because they're not all going to work
- 17:48at the same time. Right. Ever. Right. And when
- 17:51it is, recession's around the corner. Yeah. Every
- 17:54time. That's true. I didn't want to believe it
- 17:58at the first time. I actually didn't even understand
- 17:59it the first time. But the second time, I was
- 18:01like, oh, there's some common characteristics
- 18:03going on here. By the third one, I was like,
- 18:05oh, yeah, it was December of last year. I knew
- 18:08how to plan for this. That's when it started.
- 18:11I think the kids are saying recession indicators.
- 18:15I mean, the art market has not been in good shape,
- 18:19and not many people want to talk about it, but
- 18:21the art market has not been in good shape for
- 18:22a good solid year now. I mean, I remember last
- 18:25August feeling stress and being like, hmm, I
- 18:28wonder if this is here to stay, thinking it wasn't.
- 18:31Right. And it was. And then things started to
- 18:34pick up around January. So it was like a good,
- 18:36solid year. And I wouldn't even say it's even
- 18:38good now. I would say it's better. Like the first
- 18:42quarter this year was better than all of last
- 18:44year. That's how bad last year was. Just in terms
- 18:47of activity, you know, deals are selling. So
- 18:49it's a lot more people saying no, a lot more
- 18:52people walking away. Starting and stopping is
- 18:54what I keep calling it. A lot of starts and stops.
- 18:56And sometimes you get to hit a few, sometimes
- 18:59you don't. And so for... novice art appreciator
- 19:04who might be interested in starting a collection,
- 19:08what advice would you be able to give them? You're
- 19:10starting like an art collection. Yes. Just to
- 19:12buy art. Right. At the beginning. At the beginning.
- 19:15And get used to buying what you can afford. Yeah.
- 19:19Get comfortable. Get stuff on the walls. Get
- 19:21addicted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Understand values.
- 19:24Because, you know, under a certain price point.
- 19:27You know, what's this calf worth? What's this
- 19:29table worth? It's like, you know, what's a car
- 19:31worth? It's going to be worth less than what
- 19:33you paid for it. But you get to enjoy it. You
- 19:36have an emotional attachment to it, hopefully.
- 19:38You're not ever selling it. It's not for that.
- 19:41Once you start wanting to spend some money, then
- 19:43you start thinking about, you know, how much
- 19:45of the value. People that collect watches don't
- 19:48buy watches that go down that fast. Sometimes
- 19:49people buy watches that do okay. Or cars that
- 19:53do okay. Right, right. Or Bitcoin. Then you never
- 19:58know where it goes. I speak from experience when
- 20:03I say that until relatively recently, I felt
- 20:07intimidated to go into a commercial or maybe
- 20:10even a co -op gallery. And I get the sense that
- 20:12there are others out there that feel the same
- 20:14way. So while I can share that most of those...
- 20:19who are staffing the galleries have been delightful,
- 20:22and most of those who I've met have been delightful
- 20:25to meet. Do you have any advice from your end
- 20:28to anyone who may be intimidated from visiting
- 20:32Works on Paper Gallery or any other gallery?
- 20:35So when I opened up, we had a white box, and
- 20:38the business was a white box. You went to New
- 20:41York, it was a white box, meaning it's just a
- 20:44big empty space, nice on the wall, and really
- 20:46intimidating. person sitting behind the desk
- 20:48and you just felt cold you didn't know really
- 20:50how to approach it but i'm telling you after
- 20:53being in this business for so long every one
- 20:55of those white boxes wants to talk to people
- 20:57about the art right they want they they want
- 21:00to make a sale that they're in this business
- 21:01to sell art i think if you go in with the attitude
- 21:04of like they want me in here they want me to
- 21:06look at this art you kind of break through that
- 21:09barrier a little bit yeah When I moved from downstairs
- 21:12to upstairs, that was the big deal to me. I didn't
- 21:14want it to feel like a white box. That's why
- 21:16I have the couch in the back. That's why I have
- 21:18the front space for the gallery to do exhibitions.
- 21:21That's why I have the back space for the workspace
- 21:22to do my publishing. And you made it very comfortable.
- 21:27Yeah, well, it's nice. Sometimes it's comfortable.
- 21:32But for everyone else, hopefully it's always
- 21:33comfortable. That's the whole point. Yes. Yeah,
- 21:37oh my God, I need you to come in. Yes. I want
- 21:41you to come in. So speaking of coming in, you
- 21:44have an upcoming show opening on May 10th. Can
- 21:46you tell us a little bit about that and the featured
- 21:48artist? He's a Staten Island -based artist named
- 21:51Chris RWK. He is recognized kind of in the street
- 21:56art culture, sticker culture. He started a website
- 21:59in the late 90s, early 2000s called Robots Will
- 22:03Kill, which is a site. really designated for
- 22:07artists that don't have recognition to have a
- 22:10place to show their stuff. Okay. You know, whether
- 22:13it's pieces out in the wild. So it was user -friendly.
- 22:16You could just upload your own stuff. So that
- 22:18took off for him. Wow. And he has this awesome,
- 22:22cute little robot figure that is... just endearing
- 22:26and he has a an awesome way of placing something
- 22:29so simple and so comic book like kind of to make
- 22:32it look really personal and and kind of hit you
- 22:35in a way so he touches on themes hearts birds
- 22:38emotions the idea that technology is killing
- 22:42us but how do we live with it we did a group
- 22:46show a couple years ago where he was one of the
- 22:48featured artists and we did well with him And
- 22:50generally speaking, when I start doing well with
- 22:52an artist, I want to approach the idea of a multiple
- 22:55or an addition because I feel like that's just
- 22:57the extra that we both can get together out of
- 23:00it if I'm willing to take the reins and make
- 23:02that happen. So I've been thinking about him
- 23:04for a long time. And I finally came up with the
- 23:07idea. I was like, yo, Chris, I'm doing all these
- 23:09cutout metals with Stickman. Can we please maybe
- 23:13figure something out where it doesn't interfere?
- 23:16And we came up with this idea together, and it's
- 23:19going to be great. It's a limited edition. But
- 23:21the show will be recent paintings plus the release
- 23:24of this multiple that we're doing with them.
- 23:27Awesome. Which is the first time I've ever combined
- 23:28that, actually. Oh, wow. In 30 years. Yeah, yeah.
- 23:31And I've done both. Just never did a show about.
- 23:35The edition. That's great. So, yeah, that was
- 23:38cool. This will be a first, everyone. So check
- 23:40it out. And that will be opening on Saturday,
- 23:43May 10th? Saturday, May 10th, 630 to 930. There'll
- 23:45be somebody outside to make everybody aware of
- 23:48where it is. Speaking of, where can people find
- 23:50you both online and in real life? WPR Collection
- 23:54is our new recent website. It has everything,
- 23:57prices, very transparent. And I'm at 1611 Walnut,
- 24:00right in Rittenhouse Square. Right in Rittenhouse.
- 24:03In the mezzanine. On the mezzanine. Correct.
- 24:05I keep forgetting being in that building so long.
- 24:07Yes. So we have a couple rapid fire questions
- 24:10to close out today. What is your favorite beverage
- 24:13at the moment? Oh, wow. Orange juice. Your favorite
- 24:18Philadelphia neighborhood? Logan Square. If you
- 24:22could have any piece of art in your home, no
- 24:25limitations, what would it be? The Mona Lisa.
- 24:28Excellent. Everyone in the world would probably
- 24:31say the Mona Lisa. Nobody said it yet. Nobody
- 24:33said it yet, so it's great. It's the one. Yes.
- 24:37It's the one that every single human soul knows
- 24:39is art. Yes, that's so true. Which Philadelphia
- 24:42artist is the city sleeping on? Keep checking
- 24:46back with me. Okay, perfect, perfect. We will.
- 24:49Like it? Yes. Can you describe the Philadelphia
- 24:52art scene in one word? Oh, kind of small and
- 24:55big at the same time. There's no one word. Okay.
- 24:57Philadelphia art scene, God. I mean, that's a
- 25:00conversation. That's not a word. Perfect. Yeah.
- 25:03Okay. Cheesesteaks, with, with, or without? With.
- 25:06And one quality that makes a great gallerist?
- 25:11Personality. Well, Evan, thank you so much for
- 25:14your time today. It's been great. Awesome to
- 25:16have you on. I love talking to you guys. Check
- 25:18out Works on Paper Gallery. What a great convo.
- 25:33That was... That was great. Yeah. You know, something
- 25:39that stuck with us while we were going through
- 25:41Old City is how Evan mentioned that photography
- 25:45is a really challenging medium to sell. Yeah.
- 25:48Yeah. Also, I think something else that stuck
- 25:51with us was his three pronged approach to business.
- 25:55Yes. The secondary market. Yep. The special editions
- 26:00and the shows. Oh, yeah. Do I have that right?
- 26:03Yeah, I believe so. Because we saw a brand new
- 26:07gallery open their first night on this first
- 26:10Friday. And they were also coming to the space
- 26:15of... Taking a multi -pronged approach. Exactly.
- 26:17And how they even know going into this, you can't
- 26:21just get by by trying to sell art. An introductory
- 26:26collector? An introductory collector, yes. A
- 26:30novice, if you will. A novice. Okay, let's talk
- 26:33about what we're doing this weekend. Perfect.
- 26:35It's going to be a good one again. There's more
- 26:38ballet. You know it's a good one. Tickets for
- 26:41La Sylphide and Etudes Philadelphia Ballet double
- 26:45bill for this weekend are still available sparingly.
- 26:50Cecilia Paredes, by my side or back of me, opened
- 26:53about three weeks ago at the Print Center and
- 26:56continues to be on view until July 19th. There
- 26:59are two exhibitions at the Da Vinci Art Alliance,
- 27:02a solo exhibition by Dominique Samarco titled
- 27:05Philly Dreamin' and Becomin' on view through
- 27:08the 25th, and again on view through the 25th,
- 27:12a BYO print portfolio exchange titled What's
- 27:16Next. Something you missed. Last first Friday
- 27:20is that my husband and I walked all the way to
- 27:24the fifth floor at Paradigm Gallery, which is
- 27:27the BYO Print Exchanges workshop. So I got to
- 27:31meet many of the women behind it. Oh, great.
- 27:34A lot of their stuff was embargoed for private
- 27:37clients, so I didn't share it. Oh. There are
- 27:41tickets for Wall Ball, a mural arts fundraiser
- 27:44for this upcoming Friday, May 9th. Those are
- 27:47on sale. Also, not to be confused with that,
- 27:50tickets for Small Ball, the Philadelphia Theatre
- 27:54Company's production for this summer, those are
- 27:57on sale. Chris, RWK show is opening at Works
- 28:00on Paper Gallery this Saturday. Check that out.
- 28:04Hey, Lucinda. Yeah. I heard you might have got
- 28:09some Nutcracker tickets. I got front row tickets
- 28:12for the Nutcracker, baby. No, you did not. How
- 28:15much you pay for those? $33 a pop. What? What?
- 28:21Wait, how'd you get that? You know how I got
- 28:24that. Yeah, I know. This is just a benefit to
- 28:28being a young friend for the Philadelphia Ballet.
- 28:31You put the coupon code in, Ensemble Arts authenticates
- 28:35it on their end, and boom. I would have otherwise
- 28:39paid $500 more to get the same tickets. Wow.
- 28:43Don't you want to go to Nutcracker now, Robert?
- 28:45No, thank you. Okay, guys, as always, Philly
- 28:50has art. And art. I'm ready to jump into the
- 29:04cold pool, my friend. Excellent. Perfect. Sometimes
- 29:07I make him like me in a different way. Yes. True.
- 29:12That's why she's here. Shots.