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Speaker 1: The reform it tonight Labour's catastrophic loss in Saturday's Northern
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Speaker 1: territory election why it could be the beginning of the
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Speaker 1: end for the Albaneze government. The government meanwhile warns it
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Speaker 1: could ban Candice Owens, the hugely popular right wing American commentator.
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Speaker 1: If you heard her today on TWOGB, you might think, well,
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Speaker 1: it's just pretty reasonable. A band would be outrageous. Tonight,
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Speaker 1: I'll play you some of Owen's poisonous anti Jewish rants.
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Speaker 1: Maybe you'll think this time of band might be appropriate.
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Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll debate that is are our stunning victory
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Speaker 1: on the weekend after Iran finally launched its big revenge
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Speaker 1: attack and hit just the chicken farm. Also tonight, the
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Speaker 1: lessons for Anthony Albaneze in the murder of three people
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Speaker 1: in Germany, allegedly by a Muslim refugee, just when our
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Speaker 1: Prime minister has issued three thousand visas four refugees from
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Speaker 1: terrorists run Gaza. We'll also talk to the woman wh's
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Speaker 1: just lost as the court case after a judge rule
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Speaker 1: that men can become women and the brother of my
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Speaker 1: best friend at primary school speaks out. You'll have to
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Speaker 1: watch to find out it's actually serious. So a packed show.
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Speaker 1: But first, before I get to the Northern Territory election
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Speaker 1: where it is bad news for the Abanzer government, I'll
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Speaker 1: start with a metaphor one that helps to explain how
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Speaker 1: this government got into such a terrible mess. Australian Defense
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Speaker 1: Force it's just put out a video boasting that it
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Speaker 1: sent a crack unit of our military to go help
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Speaker 1: our Japanese allies to help train personnel on the Japanese
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Speaker 1: Navy's new state of the art Frigate Nashiro. Now, Japan
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Speaker 1: is dramatically stepping up its defense funding because of the
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Speaker 1: threat of war with China, so to help Japan to
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Speaker 1: fight even better, we sent its navy a crack team
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Speaker 1: of gender experts.
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Speaker 2: Gender Piece and Security is important because it really focuses
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Speaker 2: on conflict and the area of operation that we may
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Speaker 2: be in. So when we talk about gender considerations, what
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Speaker 2: we're talking about is the needs of men, women, boys
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Speaker 2: and girls and how conflict can disproportionately affect each of
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Speaker 2: those who done with the crew aboard, Jason Sheiro is
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Speaker 2: give them a workshop on some of the fundamentals of
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Speaker 2: gender piece and Security.
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Speaker 1: I'm just so stunned by that. The ADF Our Defense
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Speaker 1: Force is actually so proud of that team that it
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Speaker 1: posted this video on its website on the weekend. We
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Speaker 1: are leaving the world's armies on gender politics, aren't you proud? Meanwhile?
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Speaker 1: Of course, when it comes to actually fighting a real
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Speaker 1: war and not a gender war, boy in trouble, you
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Speaker 1: don't have enough drones, not enough missiles, and not enough soldiers.
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Speaker 1: And now this focus on gender politics, it comes actually
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Speaker 1: right from the top, from the alb and Easy Governments.
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Speaker 1: Defense Minister Richard Miles, who lifted the ban imposed by
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Speaker 1: the previous Defense Minister Peter Dutton on officers holding mourning
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Speaker 1: teas to promote gender awareness and other woke political causes.
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Speaker 1: Males also had also said the Defense brass had to
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Speaker 1: do more to get women into the very top jobs
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Speaker 1: and said our force had to be more diverse to
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Speaker 1: attract more recruits. I don't know if it's working, but anyway,
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Speaker 1: the ADF even renamed renamed drones from unmanned aircraft systems
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Speaker 1: to uncrude aircraft systems just in case when we were
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Speaker 1: getting offended. Not that this made our defense force any stronger.
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Speaker 1: In fact, it might have backfired, making the ADF scene
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Speaker 1: too woke for the kind of people we really need
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Speaker 1: prepare to kill or be killed to defend their country.
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Speaker 1: Look at the ADF workforce. It was supposed to add
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Speaker 1: another six thousand personnel and the ten years from twenty twenty,
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Speaker 1: instead of numbers have dropped. Like I said, this is
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Speaker 1: a metaphor a government going woke for giving us some
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Speaker 1: military this week. The government's other work agendas also making
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Speaker 1: this weak. And you take its global warming crusade, it's
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Speaker 1: just forcing up your power bills, destroying our electricity system
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Speaker 1: and domestic gas supplies. Just today, more warnings that we
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Speaker 1: face a gas crisis in the East Coast, with the
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Speaker 1: outgoing Senex Energy Chief Executive Ian Davies warning, thanks so
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Speaker 1: largely to government in action and intervention, in a few
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Speaker 1: short years, we won't have enough gas supply in Australia
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Speaker 1: to meet our demand. Can you believe that? And it's
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Speaker 1: also bad that if Victoria's labor premier got heckled at
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Speaker 1: a news Court Bush summit today for trying to sell
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Speaker 1: farmers the labour's delusional green dream.
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Speaker 3: It also provides not just a more secure form of energy,
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Speaker 3: it's a cheaper form of energy we're nearly at.
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Speaker 4: So how do we get excuse us?
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Speaker 1: They smell bull doing when they hear it. Anyway, Then
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Speaker 1: there's the Abeneza government's other big woke agenda race like
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Speaker 1: it's a campaign to sell us the voice that just
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Speaker 1: left us more divided. Well now it's woke pro Palestinian agenda,
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Speaker 1: which is just unleashed to terrible due hatred. The government
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Speaker 1: even gave tourist and visas a three thousand Palestinian refugees
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Speaker 1: from terrorists around Gaza without interviewing them first. You think
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Speaker 1: that makes us stronger? And on it goes, a government
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Speaker 1: constantly blinded by its shiny ideology, promising us that shining
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Speaker 1: city on the hill, only to leave us with the
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Speaker 1: rubble down below, the debt, the inflation, the country getting
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Speaker 1: poorer per person, so weak now that when the Japanese
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Speaker 1: need our military help, we send them. Gender experts. Now,
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Speaker 1: normally political experts say the Northern Territory, it's so small,
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Speaker 1: so different than an election. There means nothing anywhere else,
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Speaker 1: but this time the Avenzey government should be panicking. Labour
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Speaker 1: on Saturday got smashed in the Northern Territories election. It
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Speaker 1: lost government and lost two thirds of its seats. The
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Speaker 1: Country Liberal Party won probably sixteen of the twenty five
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Speaker 1: seats with massive, massive swing of some sixteen percent. The
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Speaker 1: Federal officition and leader today said this was a message
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Speaker 1: to the Albanizi government and it's.
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Speaker 4: Clear that when a leader, when a premier, a Chief minister,
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Speaker 4: or indeed a Prime minister, can't deliver on cost of
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Speaker 4: living and can't deliver on keeping the community safe, then
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Speaker 4: there's a point of reckoning. If he believes that there
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Speaker 4: are no lessons for him out of the Northern Territory election,
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Speaker 4: it just shows that he's not listening to millions of
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Speaker 4: Australians who are worried about feeling less safe in their
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Speaker 4: homes and their community under labor and are also really
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Speaker 4: worried about how they're going to continue to pay the bills.
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Speaker 1: And I think Dunton is right now. It's true this
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Speaker 1: was a local election when the Northern territories out of control.
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Speaker 1: Crime rate was a huge issue, so it was a
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Speaker 1: massive debts and so it was cost of living. But hello,
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Speaker 1: these are all issues in the rest of the country
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Speaker 1: as well. Look at youth crime in Queensland, in Victoria
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Speaker 1: or in Sydney the past couple of days. Another murder
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Speaker 1: of a Middle Eastern chrime game figure, another crazy allegedly
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Speaker 1: going on a stabbing frenzy, and howbanies. He got dragged
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Speaker 1: into these issues and the Northern Territory improved ineffectual. He
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Speaker 1: was shamed in trying to fix the crime spree, devastating
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Speaker 1: out of springs made a little difference. He also used
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Speaker 1: the NT especially at s Garma Festival, as a backdrop
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Speaker 1: for his disastrous campaign for the Voice. Again he was ineffectual.
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Speaker 1: Joining me as the panel Michael Kroger, former President of
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Speaker 1: the Victorian Liberal Party, and Steve Conroy for Labor Senator
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Speaker 1: and Cabinet Minister. Michael, there are only two federal seats
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Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory, Okay only two, but both of
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Speaker 1: Labor and after this both look like they now could
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Speaker 1: go to the Liberals and Nationals too, So that's a
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Speaker 1: really two seats. So how significant was the territory is
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Speaker 1: lictoral result?
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Speaker 5: Well, hugely significant. And I'll tell you why the silent
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Speaker 5: majority in Australia are now in open revolt. They're exhausted,
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Speaker 5: they're tired, they've had enough, they're sick. Of the national
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Speaker 5: discourse in this country being run by the hard left
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Speaker 5: through the left media. They're sick of the labor governments,
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Speaker 5: particularly Albanezi, being intimidated by hard left activists. And they
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Speaker 5: want to return to normality. So farmers don't feel welcome
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Speaker 5: under this government. Small business people don't, Miners don't, Christians don't.
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Speaker 5: People that want law and order and an orderly society,
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Speaker 5: a return to normality don't. They don't feel well. People
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Speaker 5: worry about law and order are sick of being accused
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Speaker 5: of being racists. You know, if you talk about law
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Speaker 5: and order in Alice Springs, oh you're a racist. If
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Speaker 5: you talk about African crime gangs or Middle Eastern crime
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Speaker 5: gangs in Victoria and you said, wells ah, you're a racist.
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Speaker 5: By the way, the racist things worn off. Sixty percent
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Speaker 5: of us will called racists at the time of the
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Speaker 5: voice that no one listens to that anymore as a
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Speaker 5: as a point of you know, criticism, It doesn't sting anymore.
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Speaker 5: And now we've got a probable a probable terrorist warning
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Speaker 5: in a terr attack in Australia. The middle class, the voiceless,
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Speaker 5: the forgotten people, the silent majority. These people have now
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Speaker 5: taken up arms through the ballot box because they want
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Speaker 5: to take the country back from hard left activists, from
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Speaker 5: Aboriginal activists, millionaire Aboriginal activists, hard left the environmental defenders officed.
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Speaker 5: They're sick of corporate you know, big corporates lecturing them
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Speaker 5: about how they should vote, when all we want them
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Speaker 5: to do is sell us chief groceries. So there isn't
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Speaker 5: a awakening in this country. It started with a voice.
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Speaker 5: It's now transferred into the Northern Territory and in October
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Speaker 5: it'll shift east to Queensland where that fool or get
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Speaker 5: thumped at the polls, and then it'll move down south.
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Speaker 5: And is to make my friend Stephen Conroy feel better
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Speaker 5: when I said last week Dutton was on seventy one
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Speaker 5: and Labor on sixty seven. I think Dutton's now on
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Speaker 5: seventy two and Labor on sixty six.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the terrorist event is that you're
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Speaker 1: talking about. If it's just stabbing, I don't think that
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Speaker 1: is a terrorism event at all, but maybe you.
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Speaker 3: Can co.
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Speaker 5: There's a warning. There's the warning. The warning is that
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Speaker 5: that Australia that a terrorist incident.
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Speaker 1: Warning. They've yeah, they've been in terror warning. Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 1: apologies Steve Conroy, what do you make of that?
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Speaker 6: Well, there's a tour de force by Michael. I don't
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Speaker 6: know why I will bother having the next election. Michael
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Speaker 6: will just have better ut installed by next week. Look,
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Speaker 6: I think there are some important messages. Firstly, clearly the
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Speaker 6: two seats in the Northern Territory are under extra pressure.
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Speaker 6: There'll be a Conservative government a bit of a honeymoon
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Speaker 6: and that will probably last through to I would think
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Speaker 6: April next year when the federal election is most likely.
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Speaker 6: As to the general import whether you can take a
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Speaker 6: Northern Territory election wide. Four years ago when they had
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Speaker 6: their election, labor were thumpingly returned and no one tried
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Speaker 6: to suggest that that was a nationwide signal that you know,
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Speaker 6: the Morrison government was finished. So four years ago Liberals
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Speaker 6: Michael was no national implications. Today the world has just
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Speaker 6: changed because of the Northern territories.
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Speaker 1: Single in the country. It's state of federal.
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Speaker 6: And we will probably over the next couple of years
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Speaker 6: lose a couple of them. It's the cycle.
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Speaker 1: We're at a high water mark.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think Queensland is has got a chance
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Speaker 6: that it can lose probably if you're a betting man,
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Speaker 6: you'd put your money on the coalition there. I think
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Speaker 6: Western Australia will see a reduction in the vote, but
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Speaker 6: you could still see a Labor government winning there. Malanaunskas
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Speaker 6: is unassailable. Men's has done nothing but growing ability and
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Speaker 6: the Tasmanian governments are shambles. The only bigger shambles anywhere
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Speaker 6: in the country in Brobert parties is actually the Victorian
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Speaker 6: Liberal Party, who continue to be suing each other, at
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Speaker 6: war with each other and so and.
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Speaker 1: Maybe even with the challenges in credible descent.
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Speaker 6: To Alan, even with the challenges that de Cintra Allen's
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Speaker 6: got on the finances, with the Liberals the shambles that
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Speaker 6: they are, you'd probably still say Victoria is a victory
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Speaker 6: as well.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure about the nationwide. I agree with
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Speaker 1: you only I'm coming to a Men's totally agree with
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Speaker 1: you on Chris Mins and Peter Melanauskis. But Michael to
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Speaker 1: a sick joke from the Greens. Meanwhile, I mean talking
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Speaker 1: about you know, situation not being normal, people be getting
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Speaker 1: sick of extremes. It is appointed Senator Marine Ferouki onto
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Speaker 1: the Senate Committee investigating anti Semitism in our universities. Even
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Speaker 1: though she is so extreme, she's refused even to say
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Speaker 1: the Hamas terrorist group that slaughtered Jews on October seven
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Speaker 1: should be dismantled this year is.
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Speaker 2: Does Hamas need to be dismantled?
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Speaker 7: The Palestinians need to decide where they want to go.
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Speaker 8: So if they choose Hamas, that's okay.
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Speaker 6: And what can I say?
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Speaker 1: I should have been dismantled. Hamas is an organization that
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Speaker 1: exists in the region.
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Speaker 3: Sure you're able to say whether you'd like to see
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Speaker 3: them go on, and it's not up to meet.
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Speaker 1: Michael. What game do you think the Greens playing here?
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Speaker 1: Appointing that woman with a Palestinian scarf, etc. Kefir to
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Speaker 1: a panel on investigating anti Semitism.
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Speaker 5: That interview is one of the worst things I've seen
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Speaker 5: in fifty years of watching this Strolian politics. To not
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Speaker 5: being able to condemn a terrorist organization is just beyond
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Speaker 5: the pale. But this is part of the Grin strategy.
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Speaker 5: Never give in, never concede an inch to the other side,
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Speaker 5: never can see that you're wrong or extreme. Every time
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Speaker 5: there's a debate about ati Semitism, send in these people
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Speaker 5: to talk about the allegitenocide in Israel. Don't criticize her
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Speaker 5: mass make it all about nt Nyahu. That's on the
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Speaker 5: Israel question. But this is what the left do. The
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Speaker 5: hard left do on every occasion. If there's a let
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Speaker 5: women speak rally, send in the hard left transactivists to
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Speaker 5: break it up. Right, this is what the left do.
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Speaker 5: They never concede an argument to the center right without
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Speaker 5: having a very strong response in the streets, in the media,
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Speaker 5: et cetera. So we have a debate about anti semitism
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Speaker 5: coming up in the Senate committee about anti semitism on
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Speaker 5: university campuses, and they send in this Senator, You've got
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Speaker 5: to be joking, But it just shows you how extreme
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Speaker 5: these people are, and they are not believers in the
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Speaker 5: kind of democracy we have in this country.
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Speaker 1: I think she's just there to make that. I think
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Speaker 1: she's just there to make sure the committee doesn't say, yes,
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Speaker 1: there's lots of anti Semitism being stirred up in the
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Speaker 1: university campuses. I think that's her game. Just quickly as
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Speaker 1: Stephen albany Governments new right to disconnect laws came to force.
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Speaker 1: Today they stop bosses ringing workers at home after hours.
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Speaker 1: Imployer groups say well, this is a fixed to a
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Speaker 1: non existent problem. We'll just hurt productivity. I'd say it
15:31
Speaker 1: also gives grumblers another stick to beat their bosses. Do
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Speaker 1: you actually think they'll do any good?
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Speaker 6: Look, I think the world has evolved in a way
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Speaker 6: that no one predicted even fifteen years ago. In terms
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Speaker 6: of our connectivity. We all love the connectivity. We want
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Speaker 6: to be able to keep in touch. We want to
15:48
Speaker 6: be able to talk to our friends and family. But
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Speaker 6: that doesn't mean that we agreed to work twenty four
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Speaker 6: to seven. It doesn't mean we agreed to answer an
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Speaker 6: email at eleven o'clock at nights. It doesn't mean we
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Speaker 6: agree to respond to text messages and phone calls where
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Speaker 6: there is an emergency. Then I think the laws will
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Speaker 6: be able to take that into account, the Fair Work
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Speaker 6: Commission will, We'll be able to work its way through
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Speaker 6: those issues. But this idea that.
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Speaker 1: You really think the bosses are sitting up there at
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Speaker 1: home at eleven o'clock thinking eleven o'clock at night, thinking gee,
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Speaker 1: I really want to bug you know, John in sales,
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Speaker 1: I really want to give Mary in accounting an awkward night.
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Speaker 1: I mean, really, this is just good manners and common sense.
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Speaker 1: I would have thought anyway, Michael Craigill.
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Speaker 6: Unfortunately, Andrew, your idea of good manners is not shared.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Andrew, Well, I'd like to know the I'd like
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Speaker 1: to know any survey that shows this was a real problem,
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Speaker 1: and I don't believe that has been My gentlemen, thank
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Speaker 1: you for your time to another extraordinary performance by Israel's military.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they have gender awareness experts cruising the world.
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Speaker 1: And it's another humiliation for Iran, the world's biggest sponsor
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Speaker 1: of terror. Israel has been waiting for Iran to hit
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Speaker 1: back after Israel assassinated the head of the mas Terist
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Speaker 1: group during his visit a month ago to Iran's capital,
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Speaker 1: Iran promised for revenge that has now turned out to
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Speaker 1: be a massive missile and drone attack on Saturday by
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Speaker 1: the Hezbela terrorist army that Iran funds in Lebanon, just
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Speaker 1: north of Israel. Except Israeli intelligence is right onto it.
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Speaker 1: So at four forty five am on Saturday, half an
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Speaker 1: hour before Hisbela was due to start firing, Israel sent
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Speaker 1: one hundred planes to bomb the missile sites. By the
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Speaker 1: time Hezbelad did get around of firing. It was left
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Speaker 1: with about two hundred short range of missiles and rockets
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Speaker 1: and just twenty drones, most of which were shot down.
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Speaker 1: About the only Israeli acid Hesbela managed to hit was
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Speaker 1: part of a chicken farm. And that's made Hezbela the
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Speaker 1: butt of jokes throughout the Middle East. Joining me is
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Speaker 1: the country's top right on foreign affairs. Greg Sheridan Sheridan
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Speaker 1: of the Australian Greg, thanks to your Tom. What does
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Speaker 1: all this tell you.
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Speaker 9: Well, Andrew, great to be with you. Look, so far
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Speaker 9: Israel has maintained clear conventional military superiority over Hamas, Hezbollah
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Speaker 9: and Iran, and the Hoodies in Yemen and the raggle
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Speaker 9: taggle militias in Syria and Iraq which are Andi Israeli
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Speaker 9: as well. That's a brilliant performance on Israel's part. But
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Speaker 9: it does put a tremendous stress on the society and
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Speaker 9: on the economy. And I do think that Iran gets
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Speaker 9: away with very little cost. It does all this. You know,
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Speaker 9: the Americans won't exact a cost. They don't enforce sanctions. Seriously,
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Speaker 9: they don't hit back at the hoodies tying up shipping
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Speaker 9: in the Red Sea. But you know, the Israeli Defense
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Speaker 9: Force has done very well, and the missile defense program
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Speaker 9: has done very well, although it's a very very expensive program.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I noticed that the American head of the Middle
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Speaker 1: East Operations, we talked about this before, maybe with General
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Speaker 1: Jack Keane, was saying, look, I've got two hundred targets
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Speaker 1: Iranian type targets that we could hear. It's causing all
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Speaker 1: this trouble. And the Baden Whitehouse is no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: no no. If they had half the guts and smarts
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Speaker 1: of the Israelis my goodness, Grech. In contrast to Israel's
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Speaker 1: defense force is ours. Now played at the top of
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Speaker 1: the show footage of the crack unit of gender experts
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Speaker 1: out defense Force sent to a Japanese frigate. But I
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Speaker 1: should be fair and add that the ADF also sent
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Speaker 1: some musicians. To me, this is an embarrassing, woke joke.
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Speaker 1: What am I missing?
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Speaker 9: Oh well, you're absolutely right, Andrew. I mean, the Australian
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Speaker 9: Defense Force under the Albanza government is becoming a joke,
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Speaker 9: just a sick joke. We can't send shit tips to
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Speaker 9: the Red Sea because we don't have any ships. We've
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Speaker 9: only got three modern warships and the entire Australian Navy,
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Speaker 9: and you can only ever send out one at a time.
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Speaker 9: We you know, there was a big exercise in the
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Speaker 9: South China Sea recently. We couldn't send the ship because
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Speaker 9: we don't have any so we sent one Pre eight
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Speaker 9: surveillance aircraft. We can send gender experts, and goodness sake,
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Speaker 9: I mean, what would Australian gender experts be able to
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Speaker 9: tell the Japanese anyway? The culture of Japan and the
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Speaker 9: culture of Australia is entirely different. So the way they
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Speaker 9: they you know, integrate men and women in their military
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Speaker 9: as if we have anything to teach them, it is
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Speaker 9: just a sick joke. The Albanesi government is decaying the
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Speaker 9: Australian Defense Force. General Peter Lay, the former Chief of
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Speaker 9: the Army, has called this out more explicitly than anyone else.
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Speaker 9: The Defense Force of Australia today is substantially weaker than
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Speaker 9: it was when the Albanese government came into office. Were
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Speaker 9: going to figured it out of service. We haven't done
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Speaker 9: all the kind of modernizations we were going to do.
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Speaker 9: The ghost bat which you and I used to discuss
21:06
Speaker 9: on this program was going to replace, you know, our
21:10
Speaker 9: air fighters. That's why we weren't getting the fourth squadron
21:13
Speaker 9: of thirty fives. And now it turns out the ghost
21:15
Speaker 9: Bat is just going to be a surveillance aircraft as well.
21:19
Speaker 9: It's not going to have any weapons. The one thing
21:20
Speaker 9: we can do is surveil our enemies. You know, we
21:23
Speaker 9: can teach them gender theory, surveil them and print white
21:26
Speaker 9: papers till the cows come home. What we can't do
21:29
Speaker 9: is combat.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you're terribly unfair, Greg, You are terribly unfair because I,
21:35
Speaker 1: for one, cannot wait until the first regiment of gender
21:39
Speaker 1: experts is deployed in a war against China. I think
21:43
Speaker 1: they will cause immense devastation. Greg. Meanwhile, in the other
21:47
Speaker 1: hot war, there is going Ukraine, which does know about
21:51
Speaker 1: fighting invaded Russia, believe it or not. Around Kursk three
21:57
Speaker 1: weeks ago has now captured more than twelve hundred sk
22:01
Speaker 1: square kilometers of Russian territory, hundreds of Russian prisoners, more
22:05
Speaker 1: than two hundred thousand Russian civilians have fled, and our
22:09
Speaker 1: refugees in Russia. This has totally humiliated Russian President of
22:13
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin, although I've got to say Russian troops in
22:15
Speaker 1: Ukraine's east are themselves slowly advancing there. What is the
22:20
Speaker 1: big play here? How's it going?
22:23
Speaker 9: Well, it's a very complex and dangerous situation. So the
22:27
Speaker 9: Ukrainians have done brilliantly in the field, again, absolutely brilliantly.
22:31
Speaker 9: They've done something that no one expected them to. And
22:34
Speaker 9: what they're trying to do is show Russia there's an
22:38
Speaker 9: increasing cost for what they're doing and also give themselves
22:42
Speaker 9: a bargaining chip. I think we've got to be getting
22:45
Speaker 9: close to negotiations, no matter what anybody says on either side,
22:50
Speaker 9: Putin who is the dictator and deserves nothing and the
22:54
Speaker 9: aggressive and Zelenski and the Ukrainians who are the victims
22:58
Speaker 9: and defending themselves valiantly, even though the West has never
23:02
Speaker 9: given them the equipment and the permission that they need. Nonetheless,
23:06
Speaker 9: I think both sides should be getting to a point
23:09
Speaker 9: where they start to negotiate, and I think Ukraine will
23:12
Speaker 9: have to let Russia keep some of the territory, but
23:15
Speaker 9: Ukraine will have to get real security guarantees, I mean
23:18
Speaker 9: membership of NATO and so on, because every security guarantee
23:21
Speaker 9: they've had in the past, the Russians have just violaced.
23:24
Speaker 9: Now with Putin, he's a very very dangerous person, and
23:28
Speaker 9: we just don't know whether the internal forces against him
23:32
Speaker 9: will finally say this man is doing enormous damage to Russia,
23:37
Speaker 9: or whether, as with many past wars, Russia will go
23:40
Speaker 9: through defeat after defeat after defeat, but just their superior
23:43
Speaker 9: resources and land mass and so on will see them
23:46
Speaker 9: prevail in the end, or whether, being kind of half mad,
23:50
Speaker 9: Putin will indeed go into some kind of limited nuclear
23:54
Speaker 9: use just to change everything. I mean, this is a
23:57
Speaker 9: very dangerous situation. It's telling that in both the Democrat
24:01
Speaker 9: and Republican nation. Greg, I've got to go, but I
24:04
Speaker 9: didn't discuss it.
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Speaker 1: Well. I think it's really interesting that for the first
24:09
Speaker 1: time Russian audiences in TV Land in Russia have seen
24:12
Speaker 1: this war is going terribly. You cannot hide the humiliation
24:17
Speaker 1: of having foreign troops on Russian soil for the first
24:19
Speaker 1: time in World War since World War Two. Greg Sheridan,
24:22
Speaker 1: thank you for your time. After the break no wonder
24:25
Speaker 1: Labour lost in the Northern Territory election. You should see
24:27
Speaker 1: the unbelievable crime wave in Alice Springs, even as locals
24:32
Speaker 1: there were voting. I talked to former police officer and
24:35
Speaker 1: turned general in the Northern Territory who's returned his medal
24:38
Speaker 1: in disgust at the police boss now back to Labor
24:45
Speaker 1: stunning near wipeout in the Northern Territory election, New Chief
24:49
Speaker 1: Minister Leo Finocchiario said in a victory speech crime was
24:53
Speaker 1: a huge issue in this election, and it's not just
24:55
Speaker 1: an issue there.
24:56
Speaker 10: Of course, the great people of the Norman Territory have
25:00
Speaker 10: spoken loud and clear they want to live in a
25:03
Speaker 10: safe community where our police are supported with better laws
25:07
Speaker 10: as we address the root causes of crime.
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Speaker 1: In fact, even as territories were voting last weekend, Finoctuierio
25:15
Speaker 1: saw what a massive crime problem she's inherited over the
25:19
Speaker 1: past four days in all of Springs, for instance, dozens
25:22
Speaker 1: and dozens of cars smashed up the World Vision Office,
25:25
Speaker 1: vandalized local shops, broken into and robbed or simply trashed
25:30
Speaker 1: for the fun of it. But we don't just have forces.
25:35
Speaker 1: Now giving gender awareness lessons to her allies in the
25:39
Speaker 1: Northern Territory, the Police Commissioner under Labor went to the
25:42
Speaker 1: Garma Festival to apologize for what police had done to Aborigines.
25:48
Speaker 1: It's basically recognizing the injustices and the harms Northern Churchill
25:52
Speaker 1: police have been involved in in the previous one hundred
25:55
Speaker 1: and fifty four years now. When I was a boy
25:59
Speaker 1: in Darwin, the younger brother of my best friend was
26:01
Speaker 1: John Elferink, who became a police officer there and got
26:05
Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Police Service Medal. He later got into
26:08
Speaker 1: politics for the Country Liberal Party, became Attorney generals, now
26:11
Speaker 1: a lawyer, but just before this election he sent back
26:15
Speaker 1: his police service medal in protest at that apology, John
26:19
Speaker 1: Elferink joins me, now, John, thanks for your tom great
26:23
Speaker 1: to see you again. Why did you send back that medal?
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Speaker 11: Well, the reason I sent back the medal is because
26:30
Speaker 11: I was deeply irritated. I worked with a whole bunch
26:33
Speaker 11: of very fine people for over a decade and a half,
26:37
Speaker 11: and during that period I saw those very fine people
26:41
Speaker 11: serve all people of the Northern Territory, and in that
26:45
Speaker 11: service they often put their own lives and well being
26:48
Speaker 11: at risk without thought for their own wellbeing. Only to
26:53
Speaker 11: see that now being effectively trashed by a commissioner who
26:57
Speaker 11: determined to make an apology, now you've got a member.
27:00
Speaker 11: There's two important elements. Much of that service was actually
27:04
Speaker 11: in the defense of Aboriginal people in the Northern Territory.
27:07
Speaker 11: And you've also got to remember that many of the
27:09
Speaker 11: police officers who served at various ranks were Aboriginal people themselves.
27:15
Speaker 11: So an unqualified apology from the Commissioner of Police for
27:18
Speaker 11: all the harm done to Aboriginal people at the hands
27:23
Speaker 11: of the Northern Territory police simply painted a really unfortunate picture.
27:28
Speaker 11: From my perspective, I've just thought to myself, if you're
27:31
Speaker 11: going to commoditize the reputation of so many fine people,
27:36
Speaker 11: then the only commodity I have to respond with is
27:38
Speaker 11: the medal that you gave me for my service. But
27:41
Speaker 11: that medal represents the service of so many other good
27:44
Speaker 11: people who have placed themselves in danger in service of
27:47
Speaker 11: all people of the Northern Territory, including Aboriginal people.
27:52
Speaker 1: Well it's interesting, I mean, so many police have said
27:55
Speaker 1: over the last few years, I feel totally unsupported politically
27:59
Speaker 1: and by the top, and of course they've lost authority
28:03
Speaker 1: within Aboriginal communities as well, which is a very well
28:07
Speaker 1: puts them in more personal danger too. How much did
28:10
Speaker 1: this crime wave do you think cost labor in this
28:13
Speaker 1: election and is that a message for politicians in other states.
28:21
Speaker 11: I think that there's no doubt that the crime wave
28:23
Speaker 11: that has struck the whole of the Northern Territory, but
28:26
Speaker 11: Alice Springs in particular, has cost the government deeply. The
28:31
Speaker 11: new government, of course, has this challenge in front of
28:34
Speaker 11: them as well, and they have to deal with a
28:37
Speaker 11: part of the problem, which is that they have a
28:39
Speaker 11: part of their community which is completely subsidized by welfare
28:45
Speaker 11: spending in such a way that the federal government spends
28:49
Speaker 11: millions of dollars every fortnight in the Northern Territory, pouring
28:52
Speaker 11: money into the pockets of essentially idle people, and then
28:56
Speaker 11: the territory government on the other hand, has to then
28:58
Speaker 11: spend millions of dollars cleaning up the resulting nets until
29:02
Speaker 11: there is a reconciliation between those particular forms of spending.
29:08
Speaker 11: This problem will be an ongoing challenge in the Northern Territory.
29:11
Speaker 11: At the moment, the territory government is stuck with this
29:14
Speaker 11: problem where they have to respond when the other side
29:19
Speaker 11: or of government or the federal government is pouring so
29:22
Speaker 11: much money into the hands of unfortunately so many idle people.
29:26
Speaker 11: And it's sad that those many of those idle people
29:29
Speaker 11: are Aboriginal people. The Aboriginal people of the Northern Territory
29:33
Speaker 11: own half of the Northern Territory outright. One of the
29:36
Speaker 11: great tragedies in the Northern Territory is that ownership of
29:39
Speaker 11: land has not translated into jobs and wealth and created
29:44
Speaker 11: opportunities for those Aboriginal people beyond being in possession of
29:49
Speaker 11: the land. When the Aboriginal Land Rights Act was passed,
29:53
Speaker 11: the then Fraser government and Ian Wener promised it would
29:56
Speaker 11: be a wellspring of wealth and that hasn't worked doubt.
30:00
Speaker 1: For Aboriginal people.
30:01
Speaker 11: So welfare has tried to cover the gaps, and that
30:05
Speaker 11: passive welfare, something that was identified by Noel Pearson twenty
30:09
Speaker 11: years ago, has continued to corrode at the very heart
30:13
Speaker 11: of the Northern Territory and the Aboriginal people in the
30:16
Speaker 11: Northern Territory as well.
30:17
Speaker 1: It's very distressing. Well, it's true, but it's massive spending.
30:23
Speaker 1: It's the rel on making a fetish of so called
30:28
Speaker 1: Aboriginal culture. The point is you cannot lift people out
30:32
Speaker 1: of poverty by pouring money into places where there is
30:36
Speaker 1: no work, no meaningful work, or very little, and it's
30:40
Speaker 1: money for nothing. For any community would go feral in
30:45
Speaker 1: those circumstances. And I don't know what the answer is
30:48
Speaker 1: other than closing some of these remote communities and helping
30:53
Speaker 1: people transition to where there is work. What do you
30:56
Speaker 1: make of that?
30:58
Speaker 11: Well, I think that one of my criticisms is that
31:01
Speaker 11: with all of the assistance that we have been trying
31:04
Speaker 11: we as a as a community for all the right reasons.
31:07
Speaker 11: By the way, there's nothing wrong necessarily with the motives,
31:11
Speaker 11: but for all but for all of that we have
31:13
Speaker 11: been we have effectively incentifized dependency. And that's singularly the
31:18
Speaker 11: most dangerous thing that we could possibly do, because that
31:23
Speaker 11: dependency has become manifest in an indifference to the responsibilities
31:29
Speaker 11: that people have as citizens. Kids should be going to school,
31:33
Speaker 11: they're not. I've seen I've seen schools in these remote communities,
31:37
Speaker 11: the teachers in the classroom, zero kids in the classroom.
31:41
Speaker 11: Money gets bought into health clinics, roads services, sees or sewerage, housing,
31:45
Speaker 11: all of those sorts of things, and it's all in
31:48
Speaker 11: an effort to hope that these people pick them up,
31:50
Speaker 11: picked themselves up, by their bootstraps. But there is no expectation.
31:54
Speaker 11: And in the absence of that expert, that's the whole thing.
31:56
Speaker 11: Parents are dislocating.
31:57
Speaker 1: That's a that's a collapse of personal responsibility. And it's
32:02
Speaker 1: made worse by preaching professional victim wood. And you know,
32:06
Speaker 1: white society is terrible and you owe us. Well, what's
32:09
Speaker 1: the incentive to get off your backside? I mean a
32:11
Speaker 1: lot of fair aborigines, of course have but what we
32:14
Speaker 1: see in some of these communities breaks you heart, particularly
32:17
Speaker 1: the children. John Elfrik, good to see you again. Thank
32:19
Speaker 1: you so much for your time. After the break. The
32:23
Speaker 1: woman has just lost a discrimination court case after a
32:26
Speaker 1: judge ruled that a man can actually turn himself into
32:30
Speaker 1: a woman. Whod a fuck? To an astonishing court decision
32:38
Speaker 1: on Friday, a federal court judge ruled, you can change sex.
32:42
Speaker 1: I mean, really, you can take some drugs, you can
32:44
Speaker 1: hire a surgeon and a presser. A man really can
32:48
Speaker 1: be a woman instead. So Grover. She's the founder of
32:53
Speaker 1: a female only networking app called Giggle, which he wanted
32:56
Speaker 1: to be a safe space for women. So when a
32:58
Speaker 1: transgender activist called Roxanne Tickle, No Joe tried to join
33:02
Speaker 1: Grove said, no particle talk to the Federal Court claiming discrimination,
33:07
Speaker 1: and one the judge said Grover's argument that your sex
33:11
Speaker 1: was what you were born with failed because previous legal
33:14
Speaker 1: judgments had ruled that on its ordinary meaning, sex is changeable.
33:20
Speaker 1: Well that's not very ordinary to me, sal Grover joins me. Now, look,
33:24
Speaker 1: I'm terribly sorry that you've had this court case going
33:29
Speaker 1: against you. I here you're taking into the High Court,
33:33
Speaker 1: and for that I have to be grateful, But it
33:36
Speaker 1: is going to cost you. Why are you appealing? What
33:38
Speaker 1: do you hope to prove here?
33:41
Speaker 3: Thanks Andrew. Well, ever since I got an Australian Human
33:44
Speaker 3: Rights Commission complaint for gender identity discrimination, I've always known
33:48
Speaker 3: that the case had the potential to go to the
33:50
Speaker 3: High Court, in part because either side sort of would
33:55
Speaker 3: appeal it basically, so I've always been prepared for that
34:00
Speaker 3: Federal Court. It cost us five hundred thousand dollars in
34:02
Speaker 3: liberal fears to defend ourselves men not be women, and
34:06
Speaker 3: for the High Court it will be anywhere between sort
34:08
Speaker 3: of five hundred to eight hundred thousand dollars to do that.
34:12
Speaker 3: Then it should just be noted that if legislators actually
34:15
Speaker 3: did their jobs and ensure that the law protected everybody.
34:19
Speaker 3: They could change this for free in like a week,
34:23
Speaker 3: but instead we will take it to the High Court
34:26
Speaker 3: and fight to ensure that women have rights and that
34:29
Speaker 3: no Australian is forced to believe the gender ideology nonsense
34:33
Speaker 3: that claims that men can be women or women can
34:35
Speaker 3: be men. It's obviously not true.
34:39
Speaker 1: Okay, So we want two things here. One, you want
34:42
Speaker 1: the law change very fast. Okay, that's maybe the Coalition
34:46
Speaker 1: could put some sort of bill and hope that the
34:49
Speaker 1: Labor Party would join would support it. I don't know
34:52
Speaker 1: so that needs But second, you'll need five hundred thousand dollars.
34:55
Speaker 1: Where can people I'm guessing you're hoping that people will
34:58
Speaker 1: help chip in. That's a lot of money. How can
35:01
Speaker 1: they do this?
35:02
Speaker 3: So we have a crowdfund. It's at giggle crowdfund dot com.
35:07
Speaker 3: And so that's how we paid for the first one.
35:09
Speaker 3: Is it was literally the generosity of strangers from all
35:12
Speaker 3: around the world who donated and shared the crowdfund it
35:17
Speaker 3: and have supported us, and I would just be eternally
35:20
Speaker 3: grateful for it. And all I can really say is
35:21
Speaker 3: that to repay all of these incredibly generous people because
35:25
Speaker 3: obviously I don't have five to eight hundred thousand dollars
35:28
Speaker 3: just sitting around poliegal fees. Is that I will never
35:31
Speaker 3: give up fighting this, and I also I am confident
35:35
Speaker 3: that eventually we're going to win. And my reason is
35:39
Speaker 3: is because actually no human being has ever changed sex,
35:42
Speaker 3: and the ordinary meaning of sex, of how human beings
35:45
Speaker 3: live our lives is that sex does not change and
35:47
Speaker 3: that male people are men and female people are women.
35:51
Speaker 3: I mean, this is like basic facts that every human
35:55
Speaker 3: being knows. So I have no doubt that we can
35:57
Speaker 3: get the world back to sanity eventually.
36:02
Speaker 1: Well, if this is what the law says, I won't
36:04
Speaker 1: be the first to say the law is an ass.
36:06
Speaker 1: So the law also doesn't let you privately decide for
36:10
Speaker 1: yourself when trying to create your own space for women.
36:14
Speaker 1: The law obliges you to go along with what some
36:18
Speaker 1: judges claims some activists claim. Makes me wonder, why is
36:22
Speaker 1: the law even getting involved in what you privately set
36:26
Speaker 1: out to create a safe space for women who think
36:29
Speaker 1: like you do on this matter.
36:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I also think that the law really
36:35
Speaker 3: shouldn't be involved in somebody's subjective identity of themselves. Like
36:39
Speaker 3: I think that if a man wants to think of
36:41
Speaker 3: himself as a woman and wear a dress, just on
36:43
Speaker 3: a basic human level, he's got every right to think
36:45
Speaker 3: whatever he wants about himself. That should be covered under
36:48
Speaker 3: freedom of belief. But to legislate that sort of everybody
36:52
Speaker 3: else then has to believe that delusion, because that's essentially
36:55
Speaker 3: what is happening. Like, anyone can think whatever they want,
36:57
Speaker 3: they can whatever identity that they want, but the moment
37:01
Speaker 3: you're making other people to believe it, that's why we've
37:03
Speaker 3: got a conflict, And that's the crux of the issue.
37:06
Speaker 3: And you know, it was never actually controversial until men
37:09
Speaker 3: started to claim to be women, that for women only spaces.
37:12
Speaker 3: I mean literally, we've had women in your bathrooms, change rooms,
37:15
Speaker 3: locker rooms, gyms, book clubs, sort of social clubs. We've
37:21
Speaker 3: had women only things and male only things for a
37:24
Speaker 3: really long time. This was never controversial until men started
37:27
Speaker 3: to claim to be women and wanting to gain access
37:29
Speaker 3: to them.
37:31
Speaker 1: Well, I find it utterly bizarre that in Australia you
37:35
Speaker 1: are now guilty of discrimination for insisting under definition that
37:41
Speaker 1: you can go to any library and you will find
37:43
Speaker 1: in almost any textbook on the issue. A man is
37:45
Speaker 1: a man and a woman is a woman, and surgery
37:48
Speaker 1: does not change that basic reality. Sal Grover, Look, thank
37:52
Speaker 1: you so much. We'll repeat later the where people can
37:56
Speaker 1: donate to help you out. Because this must be decided
37:59
Speaker 1: by someone above or in politics. Good luck to you
38:05
Speaker 1: after the break. Should this lunatic commentator be banned from
38:08
Speaker 1: giving lectures here when she's actually worse than what you're told?
38:13
Speaker 1: Plus how a stabbing attacked by a Muslim refugee in
38:15
Speaker 1: Germany at a festival of diversity should be a warning
38:18
Speaker 1: to our prime Minister. Here we go again, calls the
38:26
Speaker 1: band yet another commentator from coming here and poisoning the
38:29
Speaker 1: minds of impressionable Australians. This time New Imigration Minister Tony
38:33
Speaker 1: Burke says he's considering banning American commentator Candice Owens from
38:38
Speaker 1: touring Australia next month giving speeches. She's also going to
38:42
Speaker 1: New Zealand. Now. Owens is huge on the internet. She's
38:45
Speaker 1: more than five million followers on Instagram alone. Bill is
38:49
Speaker 1: a fearless conservative, Well she's not actually conservatives. Total kook
38:53
Speaker 1: and Jewish groups want a ban for alleged anti Semitism.
38:57
Speaker 1: Now you may have heard Owens on two GB this
39:00
Speaker 1: morning with Ben Fordham saying any band on her would
39:02
Speaker 1: be crazy.
39:04
Speaker 3: Quite surprised to see that.
39:05
Speaker 12: They're like, don't don't give her a visa. She's a
39:08
Speaker 12: bad person, but I promise you it is not going
39:11
Speaker 12: to harm you to hear different ideas.
39:15
Speaker 1: Well. That sounds reasonable, doesn't it. And Fordham, who I
39:18
Speaker 1: genuinely respect them like like, implied that these accusations that
39:23
Speaker 1: Owns preachers anti Semitism really just came down to something
39:26
Speaker 1: she once said about it of Hitler, which he assured
39:28
Speaker 1: us was taken out of context. In this case, Fordham
39:32
Speaker 1: is badly wrong. Owns is a sick woman. And it
39:35
Speaker 1: shocks me that Australians are paying ninety five dollars ahead
39:38
Speaker 1: to hear a woman who claims, for instance, that Israel
39:41
Speaker 1: may have been created by a secret sect of child
39:44
Speaker 1: sacrificing pedophiles just claiming to be Jews, frankas she calls them,
39:49
Speaker 1: trying to control the world, all of them classic Jew
39:53
Speaker 1: hating lies.
39:55
Speaker 12: Catholics and Christians were going missing on Passover and then
40:00
Speaker 12: they would find bodies, okay, across Europe and they were
40:04
Speaker 12: able to trace them back.
40:05
Speaker 1: To Jews, blood libel.
40:07
Speaker 5: They weren't Jews, Okay, these were Frankests.
40:09
Speaker 12: Unless the nation of Israel may have been established by
40:13
Speaker 12: some Frankists.
40:16
Speaker 1: It's just disgusting. This woman actually also claims, for instance,
40:21
Speaker 1: that Stalin and Lenin were Jews too.
40:25
Speaker 12: Stalin and Vladimir Lenin were anti Semitic, And then I
40:28
Speaker 12: learned way Stalin was married to.
40:30
Speaker 1: Yes, they were. They were literally a part of the
40:32
Speaker 1: Jewish cabal that you know, and.
40:35
Speaker 12: I'm about crushing history where if you even say that,
40:38
Speaker 12: which I'm saying it because I looked into it and
40:40
Speaker 12: they found a friend who understands Georgia and they're like,
40:43
Speaker 12: everybody knows that Stalin was Jewish, and I'm like, Americans
40:46
Speaker 12: don't know this, but.
40:47
Speaker 6: Can they stay?
40:47
Speaker 1: Were the good guys, they helped us defeat Nazi Germany.
40:49
Speaker 1: They were the good guys.
40:50
Speaker 12: They were Mbers, are Christians.
40:54
Speaker 1: In fact, neither Lenin nor Stalin were Jews. Stalin actually
40:57
Speaker 1: trying to a priest, but facts me nothing to owens.
41:01
Speaker 1: Joining me a Daniel Wild, Deputy Executive Director with the
41:03
Speaker 1: issue of Public Affairs is Stephen Trevura, an author and
41:06
Speaker 1: senior lecturer in history at Campion College, Stephen. We've had
41:12
Speaker 1: both liberal and labor governments banned too many people for
41:15
Speaker 1: shocking reasons Marle Anopolis, for instance, and this kind of
41:19
Speaker 1: censorship is very dangerous. But should Candas Owens be the
41:23
Speaker 1: one person we can agree who really should be banned.
41:26
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so.
41:29
Speaker 8: I have to say though, Candas owns has just been
41:33
Speaker 8: one of the big disappointments over the last year. I mean,
41:36
Speaker 8: I was a huge fan of hers when the Black
41:38
Speaker 8: Lives Matter riots were taking place and she spoke out
41:41
Speaker 8: really persuasively against it all. But the last year she's
41:45
Speaker 8: just gone completely off the rails. But no, I don't
41:47
Speaker 8: think she's the kind of person who should be banned.
41:50
Speaker 8: I think we need to be very careful about maintaining
41:53
Speaker 8: a very robust free speech regime because there are so
41:57
Speaker 8: many people with their fingers on a trigger to ban speech. Now,
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Speaker 8: if she was inciting violence, that would be very very different,
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Speaker 8: but I don't really see her doing that, and so
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Speaker 8: I think in this instance she should be allowed in.
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Speaker 8: And I'll just say that there is an anti Semitism
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Speaker 8: issue in Australia, but I don't think it's it's not
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Speaker 8: the people who follow Candace Owens who are teaching children
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Speaker 8: to chant intravada at Sydney University. It's not the people
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Speaker 8: following Candas Owings who are saying where's the Jews and
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Speaker 8: gas the Jews and attacking synagogues in Australia.
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Speaker 1: That's not her crew.
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Speaker 8: That's radical leftists and radical jew hating pro Palestinians. And
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Speaker 8: so I would be opposed to banning her from coming in.
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Speaker 7: Daniel Will I share stephens perspective. I mean those quotes
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Speaker 7: that you put out Andrew, I completely disagree with. And
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Speaker 7: if Candace does make it to Australia, I don't think
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Speaker 7: she will. But if she does, I won't be going
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Speaker 7: to her events. But she was really a rising star
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Speaker 7: in the US conservative movement and over the last twelve
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Speaker 7: months something very strange has happened. But I don't think
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Speaker 7: that she should be banned. I understand those who want
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Speaker 7: her banned, but she shouldn't be banned for two key reasons.
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Speaker 7: One of them is that censorship just doesn't work. Whether
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Speaker 7: Candass Owens comes to Australia or not will have no
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Speaker 7: bearing on anti semitism in Australia. As Stephen Rightley I identified,
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Speaker 7: it's a homegrown problem that we have in this country,
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Speaker 7: a serious problem that needs to be dealt with. But
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Speaker 7: candass Owans is neither here nor there on that issue.
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Speaker 7: And we also know that we've never had more censorship
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Speaker 7: than we do today in the post war era, and
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Speaker 7: anti Semitism is at a record high in that era.
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Speaker 7: So censorship doesn't work. And secondly, we can't have politicians
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Speaker 7: and bureaucracts deciding who can and cannot come into this
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Speaker 7: country based on the speech with which they disagree. Let
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Speaker 7: her come to the country and let Australians decide and
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Speaker 7: hear for themselves what she has to say.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know. There's so much anti semitism
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Speaker 1: around Jews are scared. She might not preach violence, but
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Speaker 1: there are some people taking away this idea from her
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Speaker 1: that Jews are everywhere. This the horrible. It's actually part
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Speaker 1: of a child sacrificing cult some of them. I mean, seriously,
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Speaker 1: that is sick. But you know, I guess you're both right.
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Speaker 1: I just wish every conservative, true conservative in this country
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Speaker 1: spent some time exposing this woman as a charlatan, A
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Speaker 1: fraud and poisonous instead of promoting her. That's my view. Now, Stephen,
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Speaker 1: I think Anthony Ovenez, you should get a message from
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Speaker 1: the stabbings in Germany on Friday by allegedly a Muslim
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Speaker 1: asylum seekert. Three people killed, aid injured festival of Diversity
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Speaker 1: at Soloingen. Now the local mayor is all four diversity,
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Speaker 1: or at least he was before this stabbing, said it
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Speaker 1: was a scandal, Germany didn't take more refugees, declared Sologen
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Speaker 1: the safe haven city for them. Now, these stabbings by
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Speaker 1: Assyrian allegedly a Syrian of Aslam seeker, has been in
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Speaker 1: Germany for two years and has been claimed as Islamic
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Speaker 1: State as one of its terrorists, saying you wanted to
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Speaker 1: kill Christians? Well, what is the lesson to be learned
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Speaker 1: from this?
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Speaker 8: The lesson is, if you're going to talk about bringing
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Speaker 8: in refugees from a region like Palestine, where you've got
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Speaker 8: very high rates in the seventy percents last I saw
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Speaker 8: of people who actually approve of Hamas, you better do
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Speaker 8: some really good background checks. But in actual fact, I
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Speaker 8: think a better lesson is actually not to actually bring
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Speaker 8: those people in the first place. I know it sounds harsh,
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Speaker 8: but we've also got to look for the safety of.
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Speaker 1: Our citizens as well.
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Speaker 8: Let me tell you something. In the world, the most
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Speaker 8: persecuted minority, or the most persecuted group of people is Christians.
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Speaker 8: And the thing is that there is no global problem
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Speaker 8: with Christian terrorism either. So I think actually what we
45:37
Speaker 8: want is a policy shift that actually acknowledges that Christians
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Speaker 8: are the most persecuted religious minority in the world, recognizing
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Speaker 8: that there's no terrorist risk with bringing Christians into Australia,
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Speaker 8: and start focusing on rescuing Christians from regions in Sub
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Speaker 8: Saharan Africa and in the Middle East who are being
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Speaker 8: butchered and slaughtered in the thousands on a daily basis.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think that makes sense. It's easy for everyone.
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Speaker 1: If Muslim refugees were said in the Muslim countries, Christian
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Speaker 1: refugees in Christian countries won't be a culture shock for anyone.
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Speaker 1: Easy to assimilate. Don't know why that's not. Look it's
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Speaker 1: interesting on that point. Daniel the German opposition leader, is
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Speaker 1: now called for a ban on immigrants from Syria and Afghanistan.
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Speaker 1: Here Peter Dutton, the opposition leader, he was called a
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Speaker 1: racist for calling for a ban, temporary ban and refugees
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Speaker 1: from terrorists run gaza until there can be proper checks.
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Speaker 1: It puts it in some sort of context, doesn't it. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's right, Andrew.
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Speaker 7: I mean Peter Dutt was talking a lot of sense
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Speaker 7: and providing leadership on this issue. I mean it's just
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Speaker 7: common sense to say that people coming out of a
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Speaker 7: war zone shouldn't be coming into another country unless there's
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Speaker 7: proper security checks. I mean there's three thousand Palestinians that
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Speaker 7: have been given tourist visas which have been granted in
46:53
Speaker 7: twenty four hours and sometimes one hour. I mean, how
46:55
Speaker 7: can any meaningful security check be given in one hour?
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Speaker 7: And I think what's so full about all of this, Andrew,
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Speaker 7: totally shameful, is that labor are willing to compromise the
47:05
Speaker 7: security and the safety of Australians for short term electoral
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Speaker 7: politics in Western Sydney. That is what is driving these decisions.
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Speaker 7: We've accepted three thousand allies in Canada, New Zealand, the US,
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Speaker 7: the UK have only accept two or three hundred at
47:21
Speaker 7: the moment because those security credentials cannot be established. And
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Speaker 7: it's just another example of the long pattern of repeated
47:29
Speaker 7: failures of this government when it comes to its unfettered
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Speaker 7: mass migration program that is putting Australians last.
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Speaker 1: Look, the whole thing is so weird. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: just Daniel Stephen, I just don't get what's going through
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Speaker 1: the government's mind on this.
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Speaker 8: It's I think a lot of it is what Daniel said,
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Speaker 8: It is really short term political gain trying to appease
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Speaker 8: Muslim large Muslim minority communities in Australia, particularly Western Sydney,
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Speaker 8: and it really is putting the rest of Australia at risk.
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Speaker 8: And it's something that if Peter Dutton can speak strongly
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Speaker 8: on this, and he has, the issue of immigration is
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Speaker 8: a vote winner. And that's not me speaking cynically. Australians
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Speaker 8: are genuinely concerned about this issue and so if Peter
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Speaker 8: Dutton can stay strong, that's going to be fantastic for
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Speaker 8: the next election.
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Speaker 1: Yep, I think there's something in there. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: immigration is an issue on its own anyway. Cities are
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Speaker 1: too full. Daniel wilds thephen Traverra. Thanks for your time.
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Speaker 1: That's it from me coming up now, Sherry Markson good
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Speaker 1: Night