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NFL Week 1 - Sunday Shippers | Main Slate | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go. Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a. Toe Tag and Tambo, back,
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  Speaker 2: Gonna be breaking down all the contrarian constructions on your
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  Speaker 2: way to the top for a million dollars. Later today,
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  Speaker 2: we've got the Sunday sweat down where Ham and Nades
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  Speaker 2: are going to be breaking down the Sunday night football
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  Speaker 2: show while sweating out the first main slate of the season.
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  Speaker 2: But Hoopster, I got to bring you in first. We
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  Speaker 2: finally made it seven months waiting to get to seven
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  Speaker 2: hours of football, but we're back. We got a ton
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  Speaker 2: to talk about. 12 games going to go game by
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  Speaker 2: game as usual and give you everything you guys need
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  Speaker 2: to get to the top hoop. What's going on, my friend?
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  Speaker 1: We're back. Yeah, we're finally back, and we talked about
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  Speaker 1: it on the Wednesday show for the showdown slate. It's
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  Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl hits. You're like, oh, damn, man,
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  Speaker 1: I've got to wait six or seven months for this
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  Speaker 1: shit to start back up, and then here we are.
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  Speaker 1: Time goes fast. There's no doubt about it, but the
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  Speaker 1: next six months are going to be a lot of
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  Speaker 1: fun through this NFL season. It should be a good
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  Speaker 1: one in terms of DFS. Prizes are big. If you're
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  Speaker 1: into some of the other stuff, the best ball. streets,
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  Speaker 1: massive prizes, Survivor this year, massive prizes. So just nonstop
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  Speaker 1: action here from here on out. And, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: terms of what we're bringing to the table on this show,
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  Speaker 1: same place, same time, same trio every single week. We'll
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  Speaker 1: be here 9 a.m. Eastern a little bit earlier because
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  Speaker 1: we have the 1130 Eastern show going as well. So
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  Speaker 1: make sure we'll remind you at the end of the
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  Speaker 1: show to stay tuned and watch those guys. That's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a good, good show taking you through uh, inactives,
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  Speaker 1: which is a huge for NFL. Now, week one, we
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of the news, but as the season
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  Speaker 1: goes on, there's going to be more, uh, surprise things that,
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  Speaker 1: that pop up and really not waiting on much just
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  Speaker 1: to touch on that point for, uh, for today. So
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  Speaker 1: that show at 1130 Eastern will probably be more like
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  Speaker 1: strategy talk, uh, opposed to really covering a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the inactives. Cause we do have a lot of it,
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  Speaker 1: which is expected week one. Um, but we got a
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  Speaker 1: good full slate here. Uh, and as always very, very
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  Speaker 1: excited to talk through it with you guys. And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times I alter what I
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  Speaker 1: do based on what you guys say. And it's a
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  Speaker 1: good experience for all of us to kind of get
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  Speaker 1: each other's opinions, talk through. I think it was last year,
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  Speaker 1: the Daniel Jones thing. We all talked ourselves into that
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  Speaker 1: on week one. So we'll see what we get to
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  Speaker 1: this week. But yeah, needless to say, excited to be back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And Title, excited to be back with you
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  Speaker 2: as well, my friend. I know it's early out there,
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  Speaker 2: but you're an early riser as well. So how's it
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  Speaker 2: going on this Sunday, my friend? We're about to get
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  Speaker 2: into it. We got 12 games. We're excited. Your cash
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  Speaker 2: game countdown came out on Friday. That was phenomenal. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of people checked that out. So lots of good
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  Speaker 2: stuff going on, my friend. What's going on with you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely is early, but there's no easier day
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  Speaker 3: to get up early than NFL Sunday. After the fights,
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  Speaker 3: it's a little harder. But yeah, I'm usually up pretty
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  Speaker 3: early anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pumped.
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  Speaker 3: Football's back. Prizes are absolutely massive on both sites. Early slates,
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  Speaker 3: afternoon slates, still showdown slates. This is the day we
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  Speaker 3: always love. And yeah, I could echo what Hoop says.
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  Speaker 3: Like this shows as much for me as for everyone
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  Speaker 3: that listens. So I talk Friday, kind of the first look.
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  Speaker 3: I'm more one to like I'm playing college football on Saturdays,
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  Speaker 3: playing MMA on Saturdays. I'm one that I really likes
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  Speaker 3: to dive in Sunday, especially with this early show. Now
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  Speaker 3: we have enough time. I can make changes after. I
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  Speaker 3: said a little on the cast show, last year was
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  Speaker 3: my worst NFL season, so I'm trying to make little
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  Speaker 3: changes in my process. Some of that is I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to be more aggressive to change some mid-max stuff at
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  Speaker 3: Saberson and really get the guys that I want to
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  Speaker 3: get and who we like on this show and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like that. So I'm excited, and I'm ready to have
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  Speaker 3: a good NFL year.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely a good week to do that. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about some week one strategy quickly, but we are
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  Speaker 2: going to get to these games. Guys, welcome everybody in.
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  Speaker 2: Happy birthday to some of the birthday folks out there.
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  Speaker 2: I saw Jason says join the Shiva Nation last night.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome in there. If you guys want to join now
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  Speaker 2: is the time to do so. We'll get the marketing
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  Speaker 2: out of the way very quickly. One reminder for members,
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  Speaker 2: if you're watching this, I put it in the thing
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  Speaker 2: last night. I don't think everyone fully understood it because
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  Speaker 2: we got some emails, this, that, and the other. There
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  Speaker 2: is no exceptions. It's not a threat from the company.
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  Speaker 2: We have a partnership with SaberSim. They were nice enough
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  Speaker 2: to honor some of those deals. So for the starter deal,
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  Speaker 2: the ultimate deal, and the founding family 2.0, you've got
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  Speaker 2: till the end of today. That's it. And then it
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  Speaker 2: changes to the pricing. And that's just because of the
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  Speaker 2: setup that we have with the licensing agreement. For anybody else,
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  Speaker 2: the early bird is still on. $ 349 for the entire season.
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  Speaker 2: Another thing that's a bit of a back and forth,
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  Speaker 2: people said, oh, I wish I could build 500 lineups
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  Speaker 2: with NFL. You can't even get a single sport package
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  Speaker 2: from SaberSim at all. So the fact that you can
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  Speaker 2: get it from us with the single sport is another
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  Speaker 2: cool partnership thing. But if you want more than 100 lineups,
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  Speaker 2: you want late swap, you want all that, then I
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  Speaker 2: would consider you a more serious player. And the S
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  Speaker 2: in starter stands for serious. So if you're taking DFS serious,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to want to have at least the starter
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  Speaker 2: plan It's $ 149 a month or the promo, the custom
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  Speaker 2: one that ends today for $ 99 a month is $ 1, 199 annual.
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  Speaker 2: Just pay it once per year and you're good to go.
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  Speaker 2: You also get DFS Mastermind for free. Real quick, though,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to this with you, Hoop, for this. DFSOS.com.
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  Speaker 2: If you guys use code SHIPIT over there, you can
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  Speaker 2: get 50% off the all access. We were talking pre-show, Hoop,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just going to share it as is. But
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  Speaker 2: in their dashboard and slate review, you can go see
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  Speaker 2: last year's Millie Maker. And I pulled it up. The
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  Speaker 2: winning score last year, we always talk about the soft
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  Speaker 2: pricing and the week one. I know last year has
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  Speaker 2: nothing to do with this year, but there has been
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  Speaker 2: some stuff with the unders in week one and all
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  Speaker 2: these factors, 179.52. Again, nothing to do with this. This
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  Speaker 2: year could be 250 points to take it down, but
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  Speaker 2: pointing out that I think a lot of people see
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  Speaker 2: the week one pricing and say, oh man, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to need a million points here. Not the case last year.
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  Speaker 2: So it can be the same as last year as well.
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  Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, you know, not really surprising. I think
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  Speaker 1: a slower start to offense to start the year with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys not really playing any preseason.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it definitely can be expected. So really
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  Speaker 1: no surprise. Wouldn't be surprised if that was the case
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  Speaker 1: again today. I mean, obviously there are some spots that
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  Speaker 1: look absolutely phenomenal on paper. So, I mean, if I
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  Speaker 1: was going to bet money on the fact, is it
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  Speaker 1: higher or lower than the 179 from last year? I
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  Speaker 1: would say, But I wouldn't be surprised if it's right
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  Speaker 1: around that number. I mean, just the offenses start out
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  Speaker 1: a little slower nowadays without preseason. So we're looking at
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  Speaker 1: like week three, I think, before these offenses are fully functioning.
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  Speaker 1: So not really all that surprised with the lower week
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  Speaker 1: one number last year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't mind. This is going to change anyway. Somebody
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  Speaker 2: asked about where you find the core reports. People catch
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  Speaker 2: a couple of them. Not too worried about that because
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  Speaker 2: if that's all you're looking for, there's other sites. But
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  Speaker 2: I think this is the data that people are looking for.
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  Speaker 2: Our stack rankings on the Slate Station, player pools, Slate plans.
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  Speaker 2: You can go through the weathers on there. The show
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  Speaker 2: stuff will be on there after, guys. So you can
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  Speaker 2: check all that out. We're going to be using the
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  Speaker 2: Stone 2.0 today just to look at some stuff as
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  Speaker 2: we go throughout. And in the end, I'll pull this
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  Speaker 2: back up. But right now, I'm going to start with you, Hoop,
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  Speaker 2: and just get the grand scheme overview for the slate.
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  Speaker 2: And then we'll jump into the first game, which is
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  Speaker 2: the Bucs at the Bengals. There's a couple of things
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  Speaker 2: to note. Gibbs, I think it's a big conversation. Michael
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  Speaker 2: Meyer is another conversation. But give us your first thoughts
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  Speaker 2: before we get into this first game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, overall, pricing is always going to be
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  Speaker 1: softer on week one. That's been the case. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I've been doing this for 14 years, I'd say, playing
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  Speaker 1: fantasy DFS. Week one NFL is always going to be softer,
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  Speaker 1: and you're always going to have some pretty glaring misprices,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the case today because they come out early
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  Speaker 1: with the salaries, so they can't really go back and
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  Speaker 1: adjust for some of the injury stuff. There's really not
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  Speaker 1: a ton, though. I guess the only big surprise in
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  Speaker 1: the last couple weeks was Brock Bowers being out and
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  Speaker 1: Mayer's super, super cheap, and that'll be a big discussion
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  Speaker 1: point like you talked about. Jameer Gibbs without Pacheco. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Jameer Gibbs is always going to be a phenomenal play
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  Speaker 1: in this spot. Week one, no David Montgomery. Pacheco wasn't
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  Speaker 1: going to have the Montgomery role. There's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: So Gibbs is always going to be a really strong play. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with Pacheco out, it bumps him a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more. He's already got a cheap price tag. Now
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  Speaker 1: the projection comes up maybe three or four points. He
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  Speaker 1: looks like an absolute smash play and big decision point
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  Speaker 1: on the slate. But nothing else to me really stands
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  Speaker 1: out in terms of, all right, this guy's out. Now
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  Speaker 1: we have to go to that guy. There hasn't been
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  Speaker 1: a ton of big news in the past couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: We knew a lot of this stuff. The main thing
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  Speaker 1: for sure, though, is a lot of good spots, I'd say,
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  Speaker 1: on the slate that stand out as appealing. quarterback again
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  Speaker 1: we always talk about looks to be very spread out
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  Speaker 1: that's always the case I mean it's always the case
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  Speaker 1: we talk about it all the time on the show
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  Speaker 1: man and like I don't want to beat it to
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  Speaker 1: death but we're going to talk about it every freaking
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  Speaker 1: week if there's like a quarterback that you like like
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  Speaker 1: to me like you rarely rarely ever want to get
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  Speaker 1: off a quarterback because of ownership it never gets to
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  Speaker 1: the point where you got to fade plays you like
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  Speaker 1: at quarterback because of ownership it gets spread out so
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  Speaker 1: much and you see that again today we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: it some of these guys look like really, really good plays.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, they're going to be so highly on. Then
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  Speaker 1: you look at the ownership and there's really not much,
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  Speaker 1: like there's really not much ownership because it gets so
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  Speaker 1: spread out some really good running back plays. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many like after Gibbs, like, again, we know
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  Speaker 1: Gibbs is going to be very, very popular. So for
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  Speaker 1: the most part, anything after Gibbs is, Not much ownership,
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  Speaker 1: except you go to FanDuel and they got Lloyd super
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  Speaker 1: cheap there. I think he's like $ 4, 900. So that's a
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  Speaker 1: missed price. Wide receiver, a ton of really, really good
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  Speaker 1: wide receivers. Nobody's super expensive. Jamar Chase is the one
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  Speaker 1: name I think that if someone's spending, they're going to
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  Speaker 1: try to get in Jamar Chase and it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be easy on the slate. And then you get to
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  Speaker 1: tight end and I'd say, The only position that stands
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  Speaker 1: out as being pretty weak, I would say, for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, like you have a mayor who we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about is going to be very highly owned. But there's
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  Speaker 1: not too much after that. So, like, again, I think
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be some opportunity in terms of ownership
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  Speaker 1: and things like that. Nothing's really going to stand out
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  Speaker 1: of that position outside of mayor in terms of ownership.
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  Speaker 1: So you can do whatever you want. Defense, you know, whatever. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll throw in a little defense talk, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not important. But a great state, great slate to
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  Speaker 1: start the season for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Title, I'll kick it to you in a second.
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  Speaker 2: This one just came up though. I mean, just two
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  Speaker 2: seconds on this, cause this is, we're here to help you.
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  Speaker 2: If you're playing a 20 max, I'm not using 10
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  Speaker 2: to 12. Like it's almost like you might as well
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  Speaker 2: use 20 quarterbacks at that point. And then, you know,
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  Speaker 2: 19 lineups are dead probably. And one's left. So I
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  Speaker 2: would really tighten that up. Sometimes in 20 max, I'll
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  Speaker 2: just play one. quarterback to three. Cause I just, if
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  Speaker 2: it hits, it hits, if it doesn't, it doesn't. But
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  Speaker 2: that's because I have a larger portfolio elsewhere. If that's
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  Speaker 2: all you're playing, I'd try and still limit it to
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  Speaker 2: like three to five and just see what you can
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  Speaker 2: do with that.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say like a max of like
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  Speaker 1: six for sure. Like you want to be able to,
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  Speaker 1: you want to be able to get some different combinations
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  Speaker 1: with your, your, your quarterback for doing 10 to 12,
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  Speaker 1: 20 lineup. You're just not going to have any combination.
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  Speaker 1: So if one of your quarterbacks does hit, it's very
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  Speaker 1: unlikely that you have the right stuff to go along
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  Speaker 1: with it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's risk versus reward. I know some people
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  Speaker 2: will say differently because it's like their portfolio management and
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  Speaker 2: all this, but if that's all your portfolio is, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I prefer just, you know, to actually have a shot
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday. I'm not trying to pinpoint for one lineup
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  Speaker 2: and then it gets up there. One thing goes wrong
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  Speaker 2: and you're completely screwed. Title, kick it over to you, man.
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  Speaker 2: Any additional thoughts adding on to what Hoop said? If not,
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  Speaker 2: you could take us right into the Bucks at the Bengals.
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  Speaker 2: That's going to be the first game we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: We got a good one to kick this thing off.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, not really too much more to add. The Mayer stuff, Gibbs,
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  Speaker 3: Chase is getting the ownership because there's no JSN, there's
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  Speaker 3: no Puka. I mentioned on the cast show, Two Tight
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  Speaker 3: Ends is viable on DraftKings today. So definitely check that out.
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  Speaker 3: You can 1.5x and get it done just under 10 minutes.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll take us right into the first game.
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  Speaker 3: Jamar Chase is showing to have a good amount of ownership. Again,
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  Speaker 3: talking receiver, he is the highest price receiver, salary soft
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  Speaker 3: on the slate. He gets a great matchup. They're implied
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  Speaker 3: for almost 28 points. The Bucs, I mean, the biggest
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  Speaker 3: worry for the Bengals this year is protecting Joe Burrow.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not worried about the pass rush on the other side.
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  Speaker 3: Looks like Joe Burrow will have plenty of time in
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  Speaker 3: the pocket to find Higgins, to find Jamar Chase. I'm
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  Speaker 3: in on both of them at ownership. I think it
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  Speaker 3: looks pretty good. There's Chase Brown at 7.1K. I like
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  Speaker 3: that a little bit less, but he's showing single-digit ownership
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  Speaker 3: because of the Gibbs and the Bijon and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: And the passing game is getting some ownership. So in chalk,
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  Speaker 3: your lineup is when you do want a piece of
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  Speaker 3: this game And you don't want to get to the chalk.
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  Speaker 3: I think Chase Brown's interesting right now. I don't have
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  Speaker 3: as much, but I could be talked into it a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. After that, I'm good. Like if you want
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  Speaker 3: to go Chase Brown, Bengals defense is a very contrarian option.
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  Speaker 3: Baker can make some mistakes. Going over to the other
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  Speaker 3: side of the ball, not as much interest here. I
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  Speaker 3: actually do think Bucky Irving, though, is my favorite play
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  Speaker 3: on this side. Only 5.7K. Good reports in training camp
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  Speaker 3: that people are worried about his health at first. And
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  Speaker 3: that wasn't a worry very early. I'm expecting less of
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  Speaker 3: the Sean Tuckers. Obviously Rashad White no longer here. So
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  Speaker 3: I think Bucky can take on a bigger role. They
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  Speaker 3: do have Kenny Gainwell from Pittsburgh and do expect some
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  Speaker 3: two running back sets from Tampa this year where they're
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  Speaker 3: both on the field. And that I think is their
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  Speaker 3: best option if they want to win football games, getting Bucky,
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  Speaker 3: getting Igbuka, getting Gainwell, getting Godwin out there. After that,
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  Speaker 3: I don't see myself playing much Baker. I think Igbuka
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  Speaker 3: right now I'm going to pass on for the most part. Godwin, 5.2K.
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  Speaker 3: I'd prefer him for 1K savings. Maybe he can catch
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  Speaker 3: nine balls, but ADOT will be really short. I prefer
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  Speaker 3: Bucky as my favorite run back. Maybe hope they get
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  Speaker 3: up early. Then the Bengals got to sling it.
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  Speaker 2: I was just looking it up here like the chase.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just waiting. I mean, this is definitely coming today.
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  Speaker 2: The Chase Brown touchdown. You'll see it like everyone. There's
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: just no way it doesn't happen. That's what's interesting when
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: you get those prices up. I always talk about it
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: like best ball, or sorry, best ball, wherever, people in
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: the best ball streets for sure this year, the best
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: buy pricing, if it's like 6,900, it's just funny how
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: that would click in someone's mind a little bit more.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: There's obviously a ton of options on this slate, but
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: when it's 7,100, the projections just... Good, not great, you know,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: or even great, not excellent, however you want to look
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: at it. That is at least a thought process. And
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: then obviously we like Jamar Chase. So there's that situation
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: as well. So Hoop, I'll kick it to you first.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: I've got some other thoughts on this game too, but
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: I want to give you a chance to break it
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: all down. Obviously, Jamar Chase is the top wide receiver.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: He's the Jameer Gibbs of the wide receiver position. You
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: can get a lot of lineups together. with Gibbs and chase,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: I think in cash and things like that, as title
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: talked about, that's going to be pretty standard start for
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: people easy to get with Meyer involved and things like that.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: But for this game specifically, who, how are you handling it?
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the game. I think there's a couple
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: game stack opportunities on the slate and, you know, we
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: always kind of go back to that conversation for multiple
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: reasons because it does hit. And obviously when, when I
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: won my Millie a few years ago, it was on
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: a game stack situation. So I always like to point
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: out these game stacks because it's, man a lot of
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: people don't do it when building lineups if you're hand
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: building like oh it's just too many guys from one
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: game I can't do it that sort of thing but
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: when it hits it hits and there's no denying it
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: and I think this is one that has the the
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: game stack winning potential for a couple of reasons like
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I do have a lot of faith in the Bengals
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: offense this year as long as Burrow stays healthy like
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: this offense is going to score some freaking points there's
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: like no doubt about it um but like, is their
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: defense any good? And there's a chance their defense isn't
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: very good. So they could be in a lot of shootouts.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: There's another team. I'm happy to happen to be wearing
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: their apparel right now that it could be in the
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: same situation. They're probably going to score a shit ton
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: of points this year, but can they stop anyone? And
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are one of those teams. So
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: if I think their offense can score a ton and
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: their defense might give up a ton, like you have
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: the potential here. And the good thing about this is
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: it's consolidated offenses. There's not like random, a ton of
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: random pieces that are going to be contributing on the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Bengal side. I mean, I don't know what the percentage is,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: but it's a very large percentage of their points this year.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Offensively are going to be scored by three guys, Chase Brown,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, and T Higgins.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: And one of those guys is going to be popular today.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, like everyone's going to be playing. I think
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: that's a great way to explain it. The, uh, Jameer
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Gibbs of the wide receiver position. That's exactly what it is.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: If you have the money to spend at wide receiver,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: you're just going directly to Jamar Chase. But you've got
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: two other guys that have slate-breaking potential, and I think
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: it is Chase Brown. He's got three touchdown upside, and
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: he catches the ball, and the guy behind him is
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: just strictly a pass catcher in P-run. And then T. Higgins, who, again,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: if people are going to a Bengals wide receiver, they're
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: just going right to Jamar Chase. I've got these three guys,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: and I've got the quarterback who most people this year
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: think could be the guy like that puts up a
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: ton of numbers in Joe Burrow. So love this side.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: You go to the other side. I think it's a
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: consolidated offense. You got Bucky cheap, some injury concerns that
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: title laid out, but all kind of pushed aside. Like
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: he's going to be fine. He's going to be good
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: to go. You got a book up and you got
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Chris Godwin and a quarterback that can score. So I
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: think we got the potential here for a very good,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: environment for DFS. And you have really, when you look
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: at it, just one piece, it's going to be relatively
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: popular in Jamar Chase. Like no one else is going
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: to get a ton like Bucky, Buka, Godwin, Chase Brown,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and T. Higgins, not much ownership. So I absolutely love
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: this spot. If you're building 150 lineups, I think this
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: is definitely a spot to load up on. And the two,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: to me, like the key pieces, yes, we know Jamar
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Chase is a phenomenal play. I think it's like Man,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the guys here, to me, it's like Chase Brown, T. Higgins,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: and Ibuka are the three that I really want to
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: focus in on at, to me, lower ownership than they
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: should be at.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Agreed. And I think this is, you know, not talked
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: about enough. You start seeing people coming around on it. Finally,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: we've been talking about it on this show for years
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: is the Jamar chasing. I know the pricing soft week one,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: not just on him. I mean that you could get
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: him in with other quarterbacks and stacks and plenty of
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: doing that as well. Obviously Jamar chase just pops off
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: the page, but the hoops point on the quarterback ownership
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: being spread out usually and typically always. It's set up
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: where Joe Burrow is still, you know, 10% or lower.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe he gets a little higher in the higher stakes stuff,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: but it's not going to be much. And then you
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: also have how many people are doubling him with Chase
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: and Higgins. Oh, that's hard to do though. If I
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: want to get Gibbs, it's actually not. You can go
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: build tons of lineups that even get Gibbs in there,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: or you could just play that game a different way.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: We'll get to it later. I think Bucky Irving, Godwin, Ibuka,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: all those guys on the other side are interesting. Most
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: of them sub 10%. Even if Bucky gets a little steam,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: we'll have to see, but there's a ton of options
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: that you can do today. And I want to talk
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: about a couple of things, but before I do, I
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: want to say this. I love this from Aaron Smith.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Sorry to cover you up their title for a second,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: but it says the Sunday boys are back. It's just
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of gratitude because we do this for. So
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: many years now, it's just so fun to be able
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: to come back and do this every single year with
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you guys. So we appreciate it. But it says, Hoops
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: grass is freshly cut and the stakes are nearing 150 Fahrenheit.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: So he's talking about Hoops grass stories, the well-done stakes.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: He got all the inside stuff. Title's getting the brandy old-fashioned.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: He's ready for a brewer's run and a Packers nuke.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Knows the Wisco boy. He's got that all figured out.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: And then I liked the last comment, Tambo hot fire
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: and DFS. We'll take that one today. Who knows? Who
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: cares what's going on in Canada? Let's just ship a
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: million bucks. And then it's good conversion rate. The dollar's
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: set in my favor right now. So we'll, we'll take that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Aaron Smith. Going back to it, though,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: a couple other things I did want to point out
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: here on the news feed, which I use a ton
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: over here on DFS OS. It's talked about Sean Tucker. Doubtful.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Somebody asked it in here earlier. And I think this
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: is extremely interesting for a couple of reasons. Someone said
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: is Baker the million Baker Baker, the Millie maker. We've
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: talked about this in the past as a way to
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: flip the bill. And then Ryan, our friend Ryan, EBR
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: fan over at DFS over at Chippin Nation and the
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: DFS streets for golf says, if we think it's a
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: possible shootout, do we like gain? Well, are we not
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: sure as you should both could catch balls, but was
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: on Tucker doubtful. I like that more. And I remember
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: this content comment and I, it was from like a
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: couple of, like a month ago, I was going back
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to find it. When Baker said he's been completely overwhelmed
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: with how much talent Kenneth Gainwell has. And he's very capable.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Like we've seen Bucky games where he's got snake by
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Sean Tucker in the past and different opportunity with Rashad
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: white when he was there, all of that. So I
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: think it is somewhat interesting and gain. Well, I liked
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: him when he was in Pittsburgh as well. We were
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: using them a lot. He can catch balls. He, you know,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: he's electric with the ball in hand. So I just
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: think it's a different way to play it in some
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: spots today. especially like I like titles comment earlier about,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: you know, doing a little bit of extra for these
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: $ 5 Millie makers. And for the other stuff, you don't
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: have to get as contrarian, but if you do like
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: this game, I would be thinking about getting Ted Hurst, uh,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the third and Kenneth Gainwell in there. And it's not
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: just to play everybody I'm saying, but you would be
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: looking for those like little one-offs where then you can
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: still have Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, T Higgins, Jameer Gibbs.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: And then everyone will be like, Oh, the Gibbs chase
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: chalk got there. Well, yeah, but did you play it
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: with Ted Hurst? The third or Kenny Gainwell? Well, no,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: they weren't even in my pool of one 50.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Well then we did something different and that's how I
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: got to the top of one, a million dollars. So
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: just thinking about it from that perspective, I think is
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: somewhat interesting. And then, um, you know, the doubles, like
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I talked about, so Burrow chase Higgins, find a run back.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I think that's the way that I'm thinking about this game.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Not too much else to add there, but definitely a
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: spot I'd be thinking about when you're building today. If
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: you're not going to be in on this game very heavily,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I would be thinking about what, what really happens because
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the Bengals with 27 at home team total, if they
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: completely fail, sure. But I'd be thinking about that's where
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I'd be looking to get chase Brown into my lineup.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: So maybe it's Bucky on the other side or something
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: that just does things differently here where it changes it up.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Um, the reason I bring that up title,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: and then I'm going to come back to you for
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Ravens Colts is because we get to Detroit and the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: saints later. I think this is a difference of opinion
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: for some, but I'll just note my two cents on it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Now the Bengals side, the Bengals game, sorry, is in
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: general is pretty condensed. Like Baker, Egbuka, Godwin, uh, Burrow,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Chase Higgins. We can throw the other guys in there
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: with Bucky and a few of the others I mentioned,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: but when you get to like Detroit later, uh, There
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: is a chance that with Goff, Gibbs, Amin Ra, Jamison Williams, Tesla, Laporta,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Jawan Johnson, Ville, Olave, ETN Jr. now, and I'm just
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: throwing out the names that are popular enough that it
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: could get really spread out where you might just not
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: need that, even though they put up the points, possibly.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: This game here, if you actually think it gets close
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: to this total, it's probably someone that you need because
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the points are going to be condensed in one spot
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: or the other, at least my two cents. Anything else
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: to add on that game? If not, take us into
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: the Ravens Colts.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: No, that makes sense. I think we spent enough time
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: in that one. I mean, the nice thing about week
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: one too, we have 12 main slate games. When we're
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: going to get in five weeks, there'll be eight or
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: whatever when we start going overseas early on Sundays and stuff.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: So 12, it's, I mean, and most people probably playing
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: 20 lineups or less, you're able to condense it and
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: pick more what you want and can X stuff out.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: This is a game that I would not X out.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Many of you guys know though, I've been a Baltimore
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: slappy ever since. Well, I love Lamar Jackson and think
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: he's a stud and he keeps underachieving, but I'm going
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: to go right to this game. Both running backs, obviously JT,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Derrick Henry showing half the ownership of Gibbs. I think
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: that's a clear pivot at the end of the day
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: if Henry or JT were the highest scoring running back
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: or even player on the slate. I don't think anyone
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: would be shocked and showing sub 20% on a slate
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: where pricing is pretty loose. So I'm in on both
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: of them for sure. And you can play them together.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: JT can catch enough passes, has enough home run upside,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: both of them, where they can take it one, two plays.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: get in the end zone, and then the other team
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: gets the ball right back, and we can set up
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: a shootout. Zay Flowers, or Lamar to Zay Flowers, when
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I'm not playing Derrick Henry, it's definitely something I'm in on.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I'm going to just keep playing Zay, keep playing Lamar,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: and keep playing this offense, and I hope it pays
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: off at some point this year. The thing is, you're
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: talking condensed. That's also why I like this. I can
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: play Lamar to Zay or Derrick Henry, and I'm not
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: messing with any. If you want Mark Andrews as a pivot,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: or Bateman and all that, sure. Andrews would be the
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: guy for me, but I'm just going to keep it
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: real simple. Again, 12 games, I need to see Andrews
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: still have some legs under him. And then on the
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: other side, if it's not JT, then it's really Tyler
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Warren for me. And that's when people are going cheap
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: at tight end for Mayer. And then I can go
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: up to spend a little, or to get a little different.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: And it's not even going up too much, like 4,900
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: is nothing. But I do think Colson Loveland will be
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: more popular for 400 more. And then you kind of
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: get like the Laporta For a little cheaper. So I
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: think the ownership stays in check. We saw him use,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: they used him last year to run the ball at
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: the two yard line. He got a rushing touchdown. Don't
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: think that's going to happen a ton, but he's someone
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: that could outscore everyone at the position at moderate ownership.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: And then it's easy to get exposure to say Lamar
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: or Henry on the other side. So the main five
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: guys for me.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Poop, I'll kick it over to you. Like you said,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: last year we got Daniel Jones right in week one.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Not sure we're going there this week, but we'll hear
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: from you what your thoughts are on the Colts at
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: home versus the Ravens. Ravens favored on the road. Decent
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: team total. Decent game total overall, but the Ravens looking
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: pretty good in this spot.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not too much more to add on to what
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Title said. I mean, you have two slight breaking running
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: backs in Derrick Henry, Jonathan Taylor. Probably going to be hard.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Probably not hard, but hard-ish to play them with Gibbs,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: you can definitely do it. So, but to me, I'm
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: looking at a more of a pivot off of Gibbs.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Hope Gibbs gets like, I don't know, 20. And one
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: of these guys gets like 30. I think it's in
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: play probably like both equally when you factor in like
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: price and everything. The one thing that stands out to
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: me though, I'm going to definitely just go back to
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: that like quarterback position and how ownership just gets spread out.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And you got a guy that at the end of
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the day, If you said Lamar Jackson was the highest
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: scoring quarterback and you need him on the slate, you
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised at all. And 5% ownership. So I need,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: if you're building 150, you just need, in my eyes,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: some Lamar Jackson. Easy to play him. We have soft pricing. Definitely,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to do anything crazy with it.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: If you are hand building, I'd just play him with
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: his number one guy, Zay Flowers, or Mark Andrews, or
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: potentially both. You can definitely double stack it. but Lamar
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Jackson 5% I need to be in on for sure
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: all reports are fully healthy probably some more running this
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: year after the offense didn't look I mean it was
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: fine but a little underperforming I would say last year
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson that is and then on the Colts side
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you have options if you do want to play some
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones stuff agree I'm not as excited as we
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: were last year to play him in week one like
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: he was like not even on anyone's radar last year
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and we kind of you know, talk through it and
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: ended up on him and he was fine. But yeah,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the one thing that definitely that my favorite play for
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: sure in this entire game would be just Lamar Jackson
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form. But again, if I
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: was hand building, it would just be Lamar with Zay
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Flowers and hope it's them. And Zay Flowers looked phenomenal
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: when he's healthy. He looked phenomenal. Just gets wide open.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: One of those guys that's like when Lamar throws in
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the ball and it's completed past, like how do you
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: get that open? He just gets open. So I love
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: that pairing today.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Man, buddy got ChatGPT fired up hard today in the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: YouTube chat, ready to roll, just posting all this stuff
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: and giving his wayward analysis. I don't know. I'm in
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: a great mood. It's the first Sunday, but take a hike.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: That's just annoying. I don't want that here.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Just pasting ChatGPT and Claude stuff into the YouTube chat.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Come on, buddy.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It's 930 in the morning. Let's go. All right.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: One thing I want to add on this, then we'll
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: move on. I don't get a ton. And you guys
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: know with these games, if we don't love a ton,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: we'll go quickly. I do love stuff here. The next game,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: not so much myself, but just noting it on this one,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: the one thing that makes it super interesting for me,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: and it's no Homer, everyone knows I'm a Ravens fan
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: up there, but just to say it, LeVar Jackson, like
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: who mentioned healthy, but it's more about all the potential
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: slate breakers in this thing. Like Jonathan Taylor, no ownership
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: versus guys around him, not even close. Derek Henry, no
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: ownership versus guys around him. Zay Flowers, mediocre ownership versus that.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: But I think people forget that like Alec Pierce, healthy.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: He's fine now. Like everyone was worried about him for
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: week one. He's supposedly fine. He can catch 40 yard passes,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: two of them and boom, he's already there in the
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: first quarter. You've got Tyler Warren at a onesie position.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: That could be fine. Mark Andrews, by the way, I'm
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: with title more on that side of like, man, is
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: he going to like show me something? But the one
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: thing I'll say is that they moved out likely and
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: they moved out Kohler. So it's like, it's kind of
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the only show in town. Lamar trusts him. And then
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: you got guys like Bateman and Jacoby lane, uh, who
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: can just break it off where like Hoop said, especially
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: in the $ 5 Millie makers and stuff, if you're going
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: to get Lamar and want to see him get his
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: 30 plus points, hope that some of it's with the running.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: But if you can get someone in your portfolio and
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: get the right connection, whether it's lane Bateman with that separation, uh,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: there's a possibility you could have something there. So I
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: just think this game is a little bit interesting from
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: that perspective. And it's definitely going overlooked with many on
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the Bengals, the, the, the lions game coming up soon,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: the Herbert stacks later on, but just keep that in
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: mind when you're thinking about building that out title, I'm
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: going to stick with you and go back to bills
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: at Texans. I know a lot of people, you know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: think about, you know, Josh Allen last year, breaking slates.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: But the one thing about him is you need to
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: get him all the way, right? 40 plus points. Then
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: you need to make sure that other guys don't have
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: 30 plus at way lower prices, which sometimes happens. And
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: then did you even stack him right? Or was it
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: just him and James Cook you need? Was it him
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: and someone not named more Shakir this week now with
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the new team and Kincaid? And it ends up being
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: something completely ridiculous. So what's your thoughts on the Bills
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: at Texans?
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thankfully there's 12 games where I don't have to
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: try and figure it out against the best defense in football.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: If I were to play anyone, it'd be James Cook.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: And that's just a sheer... I mean, how often do
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: you get James Cook, one of the best running backs,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: at single-digit ownership? I don't even love it, though. I
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: don't like really any Bill stuff. On the other side,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: a little more interest, and it's mainly two guys. It's
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Nico at 7K. I mean, CJ's not great, but if
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: there's pressure in his face and stuff, maybe he'll just
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: throw it up. And Nico's a grown man and can
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: break a slate. And then it's Dalton Schultz, and he's
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: probably my favorite play in this game, 3.4K. I saw
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: someone mentioning, yeah, pivot off of Mayer. Hoops, the guy
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: that blows.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I saw Hoops' ears perk up when you mentioned that name.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. Hoops loves Schultz. So, yeah, he'd be the
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: one pivot down below. And, yeah, he's going to be
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: one of the main pieces of this offense, focal points
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: for CJ in the middle of the field. But I
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: don't like this game.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what you said. I think there is like
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: some interest. Again, Cook would fit the build of what
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: we talked about earlier with all those guys right there
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: with Jonathan Taylor, Derek Henry. It's all in the mix.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: If James Cook has two touchdowns today, you're not surprised.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: But Nico Collins on a standalone at 7K, not many
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: can get to him. He doesn't fit builds. They're not
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: seeing secondary stacks they like. And remember, in week one, especially,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I actually think it's more like week one to five.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: before it starts to have a lot of data come
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: in and pricing change properly and all that stuff and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: tighten up, you can just play like a Nico Collins
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: one-off if you like it, I'm just saying, and just
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: roll it. And you may not need Stroud because while
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: quarterback ownership is spread out, it's looking like sub 3%,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: sub 2% for a guy like Stroud. So there may
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: not be those lineups that are needed either. And you
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: could just need Nico, who you heard Dalton Schultz. I
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: saw you just a little perk up in the chair,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: just a slight one. But what are you thinking here
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: with this game? Anything to add?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Dalton Schultz, like, yeah, fine. But, man, whenever
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I look at a roster and I see that a
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: team has almost, like, four tight ends, it does scare
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: me a little bit. And, like, Schultz is definitely on
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: the older side of things. So I actually don't love
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: him today. That shit may have sailed, to be honest
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: with you. Mostly agree with you guys. I mean, the
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: one thing– Man, when I see Josh Allen and I
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: see a 2% next to his name, if you're building 150,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: or if I'm building 150, new coaching and all that,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I have to have some. DJ Moore, Shakir, Kincaid, if
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: you want to do it, but it's not comfortable. But
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: 2% Josh Allen, I got to at least be in
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit. It is probably going to be the
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: worst spot for them of the season on the road
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: against a really good defense. a defense that has had
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: success against him in the past. It's as bad as
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: it gets here in week one, but it's freaking Josh Allen.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm in a little bit, not much on the Texans,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: like Nico, for sure. You can always play him like
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the David Montgomery stuff, even for the rest of the season.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Like I would be shocked if it's not somewhere close
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: to like 60, 40, 50, 50, like they're not going to,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: one like title you were in the best ball stuff
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: i thought that was like one of the most misdrafted
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: guys like all best ball season like as high as
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: david montgomery was going like he was going like 45
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: yeah to me it's just too much like there's no way.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: I think it's closer to with woody woody was good
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: for him and he was.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Good yeah and he's young and david montgomery hasn't had
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: like the cowbell role in like three four years i
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: don't know like It's more of like a season-long thing,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I guess, but I'm not going to be as high
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: on the David Montgomery stuff at all. C.J. Stroud in
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, I can't get that out of
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: my head. I don't even know who, I can't remember
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: who they played, but what was it, like five and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: a half? Yeah, that was brutal. So out on most
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: of this, but I got to have some Josh Allen
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: at 2%.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing that's interesting, if you're a user over
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: at Shiba Nation, and today's the last day for the
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: early bird and all the other specials, we won't pull
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: it all back up. We went through it off the top.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: But just to note it, we put the optimal rate
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: off 10,000 simulations that we run against the SaberSim side.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: And then that's where the data-driven analysis comes from. Josh
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Allen at 2.3% projected ownership is negative leverage still on
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: this slate. And I think it's because of the situational stuff.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Like we talked about, it's just... Is with all the
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: other things going on, all that people will say, but
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: you know, he can get you 40. He can, but it's,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: it's calculated for those events as well within the 10,000.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: And it still was not optimal. So just to note
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: it like for, for 98, 8% 0.5% of the time,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: he wasn't optimal. So just keep that in mind. You
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: guys can use the stone, uh, to check that out
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: of the stone 2.0. All right, hoop. We've waited long enough.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: The hometown game. Our boy Landa was in here earlier,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: chatting it up about your back. Everything's lining up for
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: a perfect storm. You got the shirt on over there
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: with the big lion symbol right on it. We got
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the lions at home versus the saints, almost a 30
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: point team total. Big favorites for the Lions, the Gibbs
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: conversation we've had. But everyone in this game, it's unlike
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: the Bengals spot where it's like, okay, someone said everyone's
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: on the Bengals game. Well, no, a lot of people
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: have a piece from that game, but it's not everyone
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: all in on everything. In this game, there's a lot
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: of love. Shuck, Goff, two of the higher-owned quarterbacks, while
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: it is still spread out. Olave getting love. Jawan Johnson
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: getting love. Amin Ra, Gibbs, everything. So what's your thoughts
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: on this game and how to handle it?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I'm going to try not to get too
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: excited from a DFS perspective, but man, it's tough. And
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of what I said in that Bengals game
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: is going to be applicable here to the, to the
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: lions game. Like, um, you know, Jameer Gibbs, we've already
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: talked about, we don't need to talk about it really anymore.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Like he's priced at what's the price? 8,000. He's should,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: should get all the way his backup. Like all I
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: got to say about Gibbs, like his backups are Jacob
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: sailors and backy guy. So like, uh, they're projected to
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: score 28, 29, 30 points, somewhere in that range. Like
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: you don't need to say anything else. Uh, I do
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: like a Monrock quite a bit, and this is an offense.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I think there's going to be enough to go around
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: for multiple guys to produce. Um, so Monrock, a little
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: pivot off Jamar chase, like Jamar chase will be more popular.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: St.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Brown's still going to get a good chunk, but I,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I like a Monrock just as much here. Um, And
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: then some of the low, like Jamison Williams, like his
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: ownership to me is like way too low. I just
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: want to pull it up real quick. So the exact
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: number we're showing, I'm showing 10%. Like, okay. So, I mean,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: that's still to me in a game that can shoot out.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I'm very interested. Sam Laporta, strong place. You got a
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: lot of options here on the line side, but actually
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I think the side I'm more interested in is the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: state saints. Like they were competent to, to end the
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: season offensively. Shuck looked pretty damn good. He'll run similar
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to the Bengals when I talked about them. Like, I
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: think the Lions are going to score a ton of points,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: but their secondary is trash. They're going to give up
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of points as well. They're not going to
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: be able to close out games. From the passing perspective,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: no Kamara, I think, is big. No Jordan Tyson out
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: as well. So now you have an offense that is
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: going to be a little more consolidated. I think Olave
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: is a phenomenal play. Uh, and as a cheap dart throw,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: not even a dart throw, a guy that is going
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: to be out there the entire time at 3.5 K valet, um,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: love him as well. Then you got a cheap tight
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: end and Jawan Johnson, probably, you know, my favorite cheap
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: jet end. So love the Lions offense today, but I
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: think I'm more excited about the saints. They have a
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: lower team total at 21. So I don't think we've
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: got to worry about ownership all that much outside of
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a lobby. Obviously a lobby is going to be very
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: popular on the slate, but, um, I think this game
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: could go nuclear, so I want a lot of it. Like,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: who's going to be popular in this game? Gibbs, Olave, St. Brown. But, man,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: there's other pieces. Even Etienne, I think, is a fine option.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Didn't really mention him, but Jamison Williams. Laporta will get
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: some ownership. Jawan Johnson, I think, is a good play.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: So you have everything here, but I prefer the Saints
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: side just from an ownership perspective, really. Like, we know
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: what to expect out of the Lions, but I think
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the Saints– specifically shuck stacks are very, very interesting today.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Title.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I'll go to you first. I got some additional thoughts.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Somebody said to hoop, you know, hoop, just over stack
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: it like your Millie win.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: That's yeah.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: That's the way.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's start off the season.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll take another milk.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all would. Would you take another mil?
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd take a mil.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I'll take the first actual full mil score.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: That would be the one that I'll take. I'll take 10,000.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I won't even get greedy.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Buddy said make 10K today, 10 bands.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take that.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I hear that.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people do when they think
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: about how these seasons can go. By the way, did
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Jamison Williams do like– I know people call him Waymo Jamo. Now,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: like isn't Waymo known for– The speed limit? Like just
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: taking you safely around and doing all this? Maybe it
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: means it's automatic. So like automatic click and get on JMO?
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: But anyway, I'll kick it to you, Title. Your thoughts
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: on this game, Saints at the Lions.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, usually Hoop and I more lockstep on main slates,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: different on showdown. I guess a little different right here.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: It's 12 games on the slate, and this is the
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: game that's getting the ownership. So I just think with
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: as much variance that happens week one with the ownership
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: in this game, it's hard to play it even– the
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Jamison Williams or Jawan Johnson's like they're still getting ownership.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: So I'm struggling to get to this game. If I
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: am trying to find like a one-off, if, if you
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: stack it, yeah, I think then you have to really
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: get different in other spots and that's how you get
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: different in your lineups. I struggled to get to it
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: as much in one-offs. I think my favorite way, if
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I was just playing like two people would be ETN
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: on the Saints at 5.9 K and hope they run
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: the ball, control the game a little bit, convert on
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: third downs, keep the lines off the field and, And
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: then just play one on the other side, whether it's
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Amin Ra, whether it's Gibbs or whatever it may be.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we just talked about Derrick Henry and JT
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: for half the ownership who have just as much upside.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I get the projections worse. Yeah, I think I just
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: want to be underweight on the most chalky game and
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: hope 11, well, we don't like the last game out.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: So hope 10 other games or whatever, we can find
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: one that does a little better. So I'll have individual pieces.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: I'm playing a ton of lineups. If you see me
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: at the top with people in this game, of course,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I'm going to play some, but In a vacuum, I
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: don't love it to the field.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Let me just clarify one thing on this game. If
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: you are hand-building, because there are popular pieces, and it
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: is a good point that that title makes there. It
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: is going to be popular. If you are hand-building, do
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: not take Jameer Gibbs, Amon Ra, and Chris Alave with
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: one of the quarterbacks. Let me just make that very clear.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: That's a really bad decision, even if you are playing–
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: one of the quarterbacks with them and shock will be
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: lower own than, than Gibbs or then golf. So I
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: prefer that side, but don't build that way. Include valet
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: include Dwan Johnson over Michael Meyer. Like that's mayor do
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: that sort of thing. Don't just play one of the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks with those three popular guys and say, I'm good.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Let's move on.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of things like that for sure. And
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Philly Phantom asked this earlier, will you please talk a
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: little bit about how you might go about building when
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: fading the Detroit-New Orleans game altogether? I did catch Lions
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: D from Leverage Lane. Maybe we get away from Mayer
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: and punt wide receiver. But just noting it, I want
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: to bring that up because I mentioned yesterday, yeah, like
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: if you want ways to get different with Gibbs, one
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: of the ways is to put them with the Lions D.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Most Gibbs lineups will have at least one of Olave, Etienne, Ville,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: or Jawan.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: So you'll see that where that's a thing.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Vele, sorry. And then also you'll have The other side
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: of it where you can do something that most don't,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and I think it's under-owned in the overall of what
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: you're doing, is I think you can just stack Gibbs
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: with Goff. Like, if you really want to play this
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: game in a different way, Goff, Gibbs, Amun-Ra, or J-Mo
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: with Laporta, and then whatever you want to do on
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the other side, bring it back, because if you're really
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: going to get the full outcome. The other thing is, though,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: with a couple notes with Detroit, twofold. I already mentioned
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: the one earlier that sometimes it can get too spread out.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: So to title's point, it could underwhelm from a DFS perspective.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: You could get a big boy score in this game,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: 50 points, 55 points and underwhelm in DFS because everyone
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: has 18 to 22 and it's just not the way
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: it'll always work out. So there's that. But on the
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: other note is the Lions do just stomp on it.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: And I remember a lot of faders last season in
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: certain spots where they're like, well, I only have Gibbs here.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I hope they don't keep rolling this thing. And then
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Dan Campbell's like, oh yeah, we're rolling this thing another
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: 30 points in the second half. So let's do that.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: And then everyone's like, well, they can't keep scoring touchdowns
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: like this. Yep, they can. And he will. So just
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: remember that as well. They're almost a 30 point team
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: total at home. Just trying to go through some of
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: this stuff as well. Man, there's a lot of good
• 44:02
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• 44:09
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• 44:13
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• 44:15
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• 44:17
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• 44:20
  Speaker 2: add here. I think you guys covered it quite well.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I will say this is another one. You're not going
• 44:24
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• 44:28
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• 44:32
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• 44:37
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• 44:59
  Speaker 2: So we'll keep this thing rolling Browns at the Jags title.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I'll kick it over to you. It was interesting with
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: this one for me. It started the week where it
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: seemed like people were very interested in Trevor Lawrence. But
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: then I think as the week went, and you also
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: heard them mention Parker Washington, people always like that. But
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: then as the week went on, it was like people,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I don't really, there's not a KC guy that I love.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: There's so many other good games, man. It's Deshaun Watson,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. It could be where like the two bad
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: things combined to be the good thing. But most people
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: in this game are just on the Jags D really.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: But what's your thoughts on this one?
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm seeing single-digit ownership, good prices, a
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: 25-point total, and an offense I'm pretty bullish on this
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: year in the Jags. So I'm playing it, and the
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: great thing is I don't need to play any of
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: these Cleveland guys. We'll get to our Buckins jokes maybe
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: in Week 7 when I like them or he finds
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: a better spot. It's not this week, so we can
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: save that. But, yeah, I mean, Parker Washington, we keep
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: saying best ball, but best ball is kind of reflective.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: It's a whole– couple-month sample of what ADPs happen. And
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Parker Washington, if you were in the streets at all,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: just was rocket shipping everywhere. Every single report, this guy's
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: the freaking man. He's in there at 430. All this stuff.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: No one outworks him. I'm going to play him. I
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: could not believe when I saw initial pricing for week
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: one and saw Parker Washington at 5'6, I thought he
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: was going to be the chalk. And clearly it's not.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: The Brock Bauer stuff definitely changed things, allowed the punts
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: in Mayer and Trey Tucker. So I get it. It
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: went more stars and scrubs, but I'm definitely in. I'm
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: just going Trevor to Parker Washington. I'm also fine going
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas at 5'5, and Jacoby Myers at 5K. I'm
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: not expecting to see Travis Hunter really much at all,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: if any, at receiver. It sounds like he's just going
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: to be playing corner, which helps the Brian Thomas, the
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers, at 1%, 2%, and all that stuff. I
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: think the upside right now, I probably would rather Brian
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Thomas be to Jacoby, but I'm fine with either. Parker
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Washington's my clear one. Trevor Lawrence has enough rushing upside.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Can QB sneak? We've seen him break plenty of slates.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Brown's defense solid. Losing Myles Garrett's obviously big, though. I'm
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: a little bit worried. Can the Browns score enough points
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: to push him enough? But maybe they turn the ball
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: over in the red zone a couple times for Trevor
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Lawrence to get there. So yeah, at ownership, the Jags
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: are staring me in the face.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I think it is somewhat interesting. A lot are just
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: on the Jags D, which is, you know, kind of
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: the setup there. Now I'm not. super high on the
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: other side of this game for that reason. I think
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Fannin as a one-off is somewhat interesting. He's definitely the
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: type of guy, he's the in-betweener, right? If you're not
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: going all the way up to Loveland and McBride and
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: you're not going down to the cheap tight ends and
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Mayer and all that, you could go to Fannin Jr.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: right there at 4,200. I think things are cleared out
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: for him. Might be someone that Watson relies on, but
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: that's somewhat interesting to me. Hoop, I'll kick it to
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: you on this game, but what's your thoughts on Jags
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: at home versus the Browns?
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think some good points there. You know, the
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: one thing just to add on for me, I mean,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone played Parker Washington more than I
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: did last year, just all over him. And, you know,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: we talked about him a ton on these shows, but
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: if he's going to be owned and like Brian Thomas
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: and Jacoby Myers are not going to be owned, like
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I'll take my chances with those other guys. I mean,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, very down year last year. Don't get me wrong.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: It was awful for him right out of the gate.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: It was awful for him, but he's, legit like Jacoby
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Myers is a legit wide receiver you're talking like I
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: don't know one-tenth the ownership uh I'll take my chances
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: on those guys not saying I'm excluding Parker Washington by
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: any means but if I was going to play the
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: the Lawrence stack which I am I think I just
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: prefer him with those other guys they're even strange at
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: low ownership I do like the Lawrence stack so at
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: really no ownership. They did a lot of time last year.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: They kept their foot on the gas and kept going,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: like even when they're up in spots. So this is
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: an offense that will keep going, which is very important.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: We always talked about it a couple of years ago.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: We made a shit ton of money with the Cowboys, right?
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: We identified early on in the season that they are
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: going to keep going. Dak is going to keep throwing.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: And we shipped like three or four main slates with
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: these Dak stacks that no one was playing just because
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: we knew they were going to keep going and keep
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: trying to score keep throwing the ball when they're up
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: three or four touchdowns. A lot of teams won't do that.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars will, and they showed that a
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: little bit last year. So in on it, and then
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: the running backs, I think Chris Rodriguez is going to
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: be more involved than a lot of people think. So
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not as high on the running backs here today,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: but you can definitely play this defense for sure. And
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: our guy, Landa, I was in the chat earlier and
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: he was kind of the defense whisperer last season and
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: his pick today is the Jaguars D. So I think
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: there's definitely something to that.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Hoop's in full form. He's been working in the offseason.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: He's talking about score, more, going, throwing, Dak, stacks. This
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: guy's busting them all out.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Just natural now, man. Just working with you for so long,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: it's just natural. I don't even have to think about
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: that shit. It just comes out.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: It's insane. Earlier you didn't catch it, but you said
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: the Dalton Schultz ship has sailed.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, I caught it. I caught it after when someone
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: posted in chat. I didn't do it on purpose. Like
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I said, it's just naturally spewing out at this point.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Orchestrated. He doesn't even need to work on it in
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: the shower like I do. This is good, bro.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, that is the effect of working
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: with you almost every single day for the last three
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: and a half years.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: It's fun. It's the best part. And I first profit
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: is the man he's always in here supporting. I appreciate that.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: But I disagree on this one says people should be
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: asking people, should I do X, Y, Z after spending
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: their own money for a contest? Do it. I don't
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I don't fully disagree. Yeah, you should do what you feel.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: But I can tell you this from my own personal
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: golfing experience. I can just go spend the money and
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: play the round and do what I feel, but I
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: can't get good at it without actually figuring it out.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: And I actually have to pay for a lesson. In
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: this case, you don't get to pay. This is free.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: We offer stuff that you can pay for. But I
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: think if you're trying to get better at something, getting
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: other opinions, not being the smartest person in the room,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: trying to learn and get better and attack it in
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: a different way, just opening up your mind. That's what
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: these shows are all about. So we appreciate you. I
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: just think that's something that's somewhat interesting. One other thing
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: I think that's interesting is that Miles Garrett is gone forever.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: From the Browns, and I know the sacks that he
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: had and all that, but man, I still think the
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Browns D is playable here. It's $ 2, 100. The Jags are
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: the popular D. You flip the build. We've talked about
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: this a ton of times going that way. I like
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: paying up for Ds. I like getting those ceilings out
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: of them, but I still remember a ton of stuff
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: out of that Brown D last year.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: What are you laughing at?
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: This guy.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: What'd he say?
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: He likes paying up for D.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, Jesus.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: That's that dad joke I'm not really a part of,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I might escape that one myself.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: I know, I know.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Bad dad. Bad dad he's going with.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Bad dad. That's a bad dad joke.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: There you go. I saw the sacks last year, but
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I also saw a lot of other stuff that defense
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: was capable of causing a lot of havoc. You had
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of you know, tips and picks and things
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: like that still. And none of those guys are gone.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: So to me, if you're not playing, I guess my
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: point is if you're not really heavy on Lawrence and
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: you're not really heavy on Washington and you're not heavy
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: on Brian Thomas Jr., et cetera, you could get, you
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: could go play the Browns D and, And then lastly,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: but two to 10, maybe get two touchdowns today. Well,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: another way to slice and dice that Jags D $ 5, 800
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: for toot in there. He definitely had some spots last
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: year where he annoyed you and you were like, damn,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: this guy just gets brought in at the goal line.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: And that's what he does. That's another way to go.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: If you want to, you want to look after it today. So,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Kick it back to you, Hoop. We'll go to the
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Titans at home versus the Jets. Interested to hear your
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: thoughts on this one. I saw some posts on X
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: about Geno Smith yesterday. So give me your thoughts on
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: the Jets and the Titans.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not great. I mean, 38 and a half total.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I do think there are a couple spots here. The one, though,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: that definitely stands out, like Brees Hall, I think he's
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: just going to get all the work. And I think
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: the Jets have a chance to be better than people think. Like,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, the expectations are pretty low, but I don't know,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: like they have pieces here. Gino Smith is not an
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: amazing quarterback, but he's got to be better than the
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: shit they've been rolling with the last few seasons. I
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: like the Jets here to win this game. And I
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: think they can have success offensively. Garrett Wilson, you know,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: this is a guy that 15 target upside. So definitely
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: some interest there. But for me, it's definitely Brees Hall,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: some defense. And then with the Titans, I'm just going
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: to have to see something out of them first before
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I start playing them in DFS. If I was going
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: to play anyone on the Titans side, it's going to
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: be Wandale Robinson. I think he's perfect for DK scoring,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: where he can get a lot of receptions. But not
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: a ton here. Brees Hall, though, for sure, is my favorite.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: And Garrett Wilson, I think, is a good player. I
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: think the Jets win this game. So I don't even
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: know what that means, really. But I think the Jets
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: win the game.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: It's all dudes here. So one thing I will say
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: about the chat that's very clear with the D joke,
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: like this, forget the D, this chat gets no P.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I can tell you that right now. If that's the
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: best joke for you, that's horrible.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: It wasn't really, it was not a good, it was
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: not a good joke. I think it was more about,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I think it was more about the emphasis you put
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: on the D portion of it. I'll pay up for
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: the D.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you said it, though, because I was doing
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: something else, but Chad has me dying on some other things. Yeah.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: the chat liked it yeah.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: That's the one our guy jake the tank is back
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: what's up man back back in business that's why we
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: like being back here but yeah we can flip those
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: though we got those rebuttals for you guys out there
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: too with the word play so i got you back
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: you know go get some p stop worrying and focusing
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: on the d.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Let's move on don't worry about the d yeah i got.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Something to talk about now this game here um someone
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: said geno smith winning the millie maker i guess like
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: If I'm building it out that way and in like
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: the $ 100 Millie maker, the $ 5, things like that, I've
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: got some of this. I'm doing like Gino Wilson, Adonai Mitchell,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: maybe even some Brees Hall. And then, you know, Robinson
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: or Tate on the other side, you can fit whatever
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: you want. It's just a different way. You can apply
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: this to different games if you want as well. I'm
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: just going to use this game for the example. Think
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: about what people are doing with like Tucker and Mayer
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: later on when we get to the Raiders spot. It's
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: why is that? It's not necessarily they think they're going
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: to go off and smash. It's obviously Bowers out, all
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: that stuff, but it's to get ceiling into the lineup.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: When you do something with Gino, let's just use this example, Gino, Wilson, Mitchell,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: and you pick one of Tate or Robinson on the
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: other side, that now opens up two running back spots,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: a flex and a pay up tight end. Now you
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: can go and get something else that you want and
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: still be able to, you know, get ceiling into your lineup.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: So I think that's how I'm thinking about this spot.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: If I'm doing it, it's a, it's a lower total,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: but it might be a little more condensed than you
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: think on these two lineups. So we'll see title. Anything
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: else you want to add there? If not, you can
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: take us into the Falcon Steelers.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Just Garrett Wilson and Brees Hall for me. Titans are
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: a dumpster fire. I'm not really messing there. I think
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson has a chance to have a pretty solid year.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: And yeah, Brees Hall, if he does get majority 80%
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: of the work, which I'm hoping, Braylon Allen's not solid,
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: but I'm hoping they give it to him. He can
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: catch the ball out of the backfield. He's still good,
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: just on a shitty team. So it's those two for me.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Next game, you said, is.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: One quick question. I had a follow-up on that. I
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: didn't mention it too much. I know the chat was
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: talking about it. Both these defenses, we'll go defenses now,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: keep the chat in line here. Both these defenses popular
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: on both sites. Like Jets, definitely popular at 2,500 on DraftKings.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Funny enough, I think on FanDuel, it's the Titans, and
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: they're only 200 bucks less than the Jets. So that's interesting.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Any thoughts on the two defenses here and how you're
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: handling them?
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Geno Smith and Cam Ward signed me up.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, the problem is they're getting some ownership. But yeah,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: play Brees Hall in the Jets defense. That looks pretty good. Yeah,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Titans as well. I'm good with both.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: It's a game stack a little interesting, though, when you
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: say it that way, because it's like you said, if
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: people like both sides of it, it's like that's where
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: you could say it's neither, and they actually surprise you
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: and score back and forth. So yeah, somewhat interesting, but
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: I'll let you take it to the Falcons at the
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Steelers now.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the Jets defense for sure. Cam Ward
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: just runs around in circle. He tries to make plays.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, his receivers, hopefully, yeah, with Wandale, with Tate,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: hopefully they actually catch the ball. Last year he was
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: hitting dudes in the hand, and they just couldn't figure
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: it out. But Steelers and the Falcons, pretty easy catch-up
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: game for me. Dijon is the clear play, 7,700. He's
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: getting some ownership. He can do it against anybody, though.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: It's not the most favorable matchup he'll see all year.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Now with Cooper Rush, though, instead of Tua, I mean,
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: the line moved quite a bit. So they're actually, I
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: don't know if I would say respect to Tua, but
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: maybe Cooper Rush is that bad. You can take it
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: however you want to take it. If Tua was in,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: I was going to have a lot more interest in Bijan,
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: but now it's tough for me. Steeler side, I don't know.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: What's the split going to be with Warren and Rico?
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Rodgers is already coming out saying they need to get
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: DK the football, and I think they will. So he's
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: my favorite play at 5.4K. Anytime Rodgers sees one-on-one coverage,
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: He's still going to look off the safety and go
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: to his guy, and that is DK. So, yeah, pretty
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: much him or nothing.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did say that. I think that's interesting. I've
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: seen a little Pittman love as well. But, Hoop, I'll
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: go to you. The interesting one to me is that
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Bijan is $ 300 less than Gibbs. You can obviously play
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: both together. But if you were comfortable with that, you
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: could have a secondary here of Bijan and Metcalf, and
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: that's probably– enough and solid now a lot of people
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: are in on the Steelers here going up against the
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Falcons at 3300 on DraftKings 4900 on FanDuel but give
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: me your thoughts on this game Steelers at home versus
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: the Falcons yeah.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Tough one and I don't know not super appealing and
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: it is just it's so weird to me like how
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: these shitty quarterbacks in the NFL that have the names
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: like people still think they're, like, decent, like the Tua thing. Like,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: there should have been some line movement, I think, but
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think it should have been three to four
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: points after Tua goes out. Tua has been one of
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: the worst quarterbacks in the NFL the past few seasons. And, like,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: is it really that big of a change going from
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Tua to Cooper Rush? I would say– No, I already
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: thought the Steelers were winning this game regardless. So like
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: it's kind of irrelevant, but it's just crazy to me
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: that Tua goes out and there's three to four points
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: of line movement. That seems a little wild to me.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: But in terms of DFS, man, it is tough with
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Bijan's because it's like, man, they're projected to score 17 points.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: The Lions are around 30. I mean, literally almost double
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: the amount of points to potentially be scored. And he's
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: still getting like ownership. we're showing Bijan at 15%. So
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: it's not like he's an unowned play. I struggle with it.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I think I still would just prefer Derrick Henry, Jonathan
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Taylor types over Bijan. So he could end up hurting
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: me today, but I think I'm fine with it. Steelers
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: defense is probably going to be pretty good. Steelers are
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: another team though. It's like, they'll win an ugly game.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: They have two running backs. They have, an older quarterback,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: like I think they'll just take like a 17 to
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: three win and, and be satisfied. So I'm mostly off
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: this one.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: And talk about the rush back spasms and all this stuff,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: how it's going to be. But so what do they
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: do here? Like, this is not the same at all.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: But if you guys remember from last year, we got
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: late news on one of those slates. I forget what
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: it was. Remember Drake London was ruled out or scratched late.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: And then everyone was on Bijan, but it was like,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: they just said, we'll just stack the box against Bijan
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: and let, make your guy throw to, you know, Mooney
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: and pits and whatever else you got. This is not
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: the same because actually this morning too, by the way,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Joey Porter, I think is going to be, is doubtful
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: now for, for Pittsburgh as well. So like people are
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: saying like London, et cetera, but like, what's the plan?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Just going back to you title. Cause I'm gonna let
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: you go into bears Panthers next. I don't have too
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: much else to add on this game. You already talked
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: about it, but just curious, is there, is there a
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: scenario there too, where you think they do just say, let's,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: let's rush Cooper rush. And also let's just make sure
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: we've got Bijan covered and then whatever happens happens. So
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: they might just go off like that. That could just
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: be the case for sure.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: I would, I mean, yeah, stack the box. Don't let
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Bijan beat you and make, let Cooper rush make throws
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: under pressure. against good corners. So yeah, I, they're, they're
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: in for a long night, I think. So Tyler asks,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: shout out to Tyler. Hope you're doing well. Rogers DK
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: pit defense. Yeah, that looks great to me. So I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: got nothing wrong with that. You said take us into
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: the next game.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got us. You can take us in. It's
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: going to be a Caleb Williams, you know, on the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: road in, in Carolina against the Panthers. Yeah.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: And this is kind of like when I'm talking about
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: the Detroit game and being under, like trying to find
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: spots that I think could, could match that at a
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: lot lower ownership. This is one on both sides. I'll
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: start with the Bears side. I mean, yes, I'm a
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Packer fan, but once you get into this business, you
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: don't really have any fandom, or at least you shouldn't.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: The Bears are going to be good, I think. I mean,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: I think Cale Williams is the real deal. What he
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: can do with his legs, having Ben Johnson there, the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: weapons around him, he can run into touchdowns. He can
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: throw it to Bird in one, Loveland one, Swift another, Doonesay,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: whatever it may be, which... It's good and bad. It's
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: good because the ownership mainly gets spread out. It's bad
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: because it is harder to get Caleb Williams fully right
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: when you do. But if you do, again, Luther Burden,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: another guy similar to Parker Washington, 5.5K. When I saw
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: initial pricing, I thought he was going to be chalky.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Then the slate gets flipped on its head, more stars
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: and scrubs stuff, and he goes down in ownership. But
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Loveland was the number three drafted tight end in season-long
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: stuff after McBride and Bowers. 25 points they're implied for.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: So I think the Bears are very good. And I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: like DeAndre Swift on his own as well. I have
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: nothing bad to say about the Bears. I'm bullish on
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: them this year in their offense. And their defense isn't
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: going to be very good either, which only makes the
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: offense more appealing. And, yeah, so on the other side, Carolina,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Bryce Young going to be like 3%, 5.2K, and he
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: has two clear guys to play him with, Tett and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Jalen Coker, 6'1, 4.6K, showing single-digit ownership. This is how,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: if I'm playing a Gibbs and an Olave and all that,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: and I need to get different, this is a game
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: I'm good at getting different on both sides with.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you, you got there hoop. I'll go
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: to you in a second, but I'll just give my
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: thoughts quickly. I think mixing in all the guys of
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: like William Swift, my nun guy, burden Loveland or doomsday.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Like I'm fine with this game because it's, it's a,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: it could be a back and forth. They are going
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: to try and score a million points. Like everyone said,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: that could fall flat on its face in week one.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: A lot of teams are trying to score a lot
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: of points and then it doesn't happen sometimes. So, but
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Tet on the other side, Coker on the other side.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: And then I always got love. for Chuba Hubbard, the Canadian,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: but he's come through for me for a hundred K twice,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: two different occasions. So I love some Chuba Hubbard. I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: think Loveland as a one-off is also fine. Like if
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: you're just, if you're looking again, I go back to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: it all the time, but like the Warrens, the Mark Andrews,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: the Loveland's, I think people always assume when you go
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: tight end, it's just automatically to stack them up and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: roll up from there. I think in stacks, great. But
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: also if you just want to play Loveland and not
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: play McBride up high or the cheap guys down low,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: you could just play Loveland or play Loveland and Coker
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: or Loveland and McMillan. Like these guys aren't expensive enough
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: where they're going to require everything. And McMillan at 6,100
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: is a spot where if he goes off, it'd be
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: nice to have Bryce Young with him. Cause Bryce Young
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: probably crushed it, but Bryce Young's going to be on
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: 2% of rosters. So it's like, is everyone going to
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: get that and everything else? Right. It may not be
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: the case. So you can just have Coker. You can
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: just have McMillan, things like that. What's your thoughts on
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: this game?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much agree with most of what you guys said. And, like,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: I want to be ahead of the curve on the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Bears offense for sure. I mean, I believe in Ben Johnson,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: obviously seeing everything he did in Detroit. And I think
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: this is a year they could absolutely go off. And
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I thought they would be more popular. And you're getting
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: everything 10 percent or below. And to me, that's too
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: low on an offense that, you know, is trying just
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: to score points. They want to score as many points
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: as possible. Now all offenses do, but like Ben Johnson
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: is an offensive minded guy. Caleb Williams, Burden, Adunze, Loveland,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: I think great options. And then on the Panther side,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: you have runbacks and, you know, McMillan, Coker, and someone
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: put in there about Waller. I don't even mind Waller
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: as like a dart throw thing, but I'm not as
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: interested in the running back situation as, I think both
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: teams are going to use these guys closer to a split.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: And with some of the situations at running back, it's just,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I think you're going to need a really big number
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: at running back today. Like I think the number is
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: going to be big. You got Gibbs and you got
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: some of these other guys in really, really good spots.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: So not as interested in the running backs, but you know,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: both passing games for sure at sub 10%. Yeah.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Somebody asked for this too. We'll go to it quickly.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Said the burden of, Odun's a health update.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: And this is, this is why I think the ownership
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: is lower. Like title said, when he saw the burden
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: price tag, he thought for sure he was going to
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: be popular. I think the reason it's not is because
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: of these, you know, so quote unquote injury situations, these
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: guys had, they're fine. They're playing like they're, they're good
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: to go. In my eyes, if they didn't have any
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: of the preseason injury stuff, I think they would have,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: they would be way more popular than they are.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was trying to go back even further, but
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: like it does it because there's so much late news.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: This has an updated right away, but it says like
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: a day ago already was feeling ready. despite the questionable
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: tag expects to play Sunday. Good to go. And now
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: we've had like in a couple of different sources, you know,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: obviously good to go expected to suit up, expected to play.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Everything's good with that calf issue. So we'll have to
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: wait and see on how it actually plays out, but,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: but good to roll for sure.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Let's see a buck 99 where did you just.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Go the bathroom you paid so i'll let you know.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: First bathroom break of the season goes to uh title
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: and not hoop that's.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: That's oh man you know they say you'll be tries
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: real name ob tries real name no give you'll be
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: tries real name no limits this guy got two bucks
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: just to find out where.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: You went right now that's nice of you beautiful beautiful
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: family the three kids yeah i mean it's 6 a.m
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: as you so that's when it's going to be over
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: here and we're doing these shows My stomach, yeah, and
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: I was out last night and stuff. So, yeah, my
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: stomach's not feeling the best.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: All right. Anything else, Hoop, you want to add on
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: that last one? If not, we went through it. We
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: gave them what they wanted. Let's go to the Packers
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: at the Vikings.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, not a ton. Actually, so you got the
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Marshawn Lloyd situation, like way too cheap on FanDuel. $ 4, 900
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: is going to be very popular. I think he's still
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: in play. On DK at, let me see. 48. 48.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: There was some weird talk about hot hand situation, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: But I'm still somewhat interested. You know, my favorite player
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: in this game is definitely Justin Jefferson. I mean, you
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: look at it.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: Matt Golden?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: I'll leave that for, for Nades. Where's he at? I'm
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: sure he was here.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Cause he had a good call. That was a big upset.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: This is third, what? Our third show of the season.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Third show of the season.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: And I haven't had a bathroom break. So maybe I'm,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: my bladders are growing. I don't know if that's good
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: or bad, or maybe I'm not drinking enough fluids. Who knows?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: But the, it was the first show I took off
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: and everyone thought it was bathroom break, but it was
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: temperature adjustment. If you guys remember that, like everyone thought
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: for sure hoops in the bathroom, but I had to
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: adjust the temperature in the office.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Did anybody pay two bucks to find out where you
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: were at?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: No, that's yeah. That's That's the kicker for sure. That
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: is definitely the kicker. The $ 2. 99.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Step your game up, buddy. We got to figure it out.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: I want to up that.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: I want to up that a little bit. Next time
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I disappear, I would like a $ 5 donation to find
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: out where I'm at.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: That's why you're getting on. You're greedy.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't ask for it. You can't ask for it.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: The only way I'll admit to the bathroom break is $ 4. 99
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: or above.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: If you do want to pay $ 19 though, spend your
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: money in a better way, up it up, go to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: the site. This person asked about the link to the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: $ 5 with the code and everything. If you go to
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: the site and click join the nation and just drops
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: you down to the pricing, it's under the core 100
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: all access. It says a five day trial as opposed
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: to weekly for that one. So just check that out
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, cool.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: All I needed to know to finalize lineups. So he's
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: up to four bucks now. So your title, really, you
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: just should step out of the room more often. We'll
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: be rich by the end.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Of the show.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: I interrupted you, Hoop, though. You were saying Jefferson.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, yeah.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's, you know, Justin Jefferson, for sure, I
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: think is my favorite. And I think a lot of
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: people would say that. But I think he's a legit
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: play here today. What do you got? Jamar Chase, ownership.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Amon Ross, St. Brown, for sure, ownership, I think. Jefferson
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: could come down a little bit. I think he's a
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: really solid option. I don't have a ton of interest
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: in the Kyler Murray. To me, I look at the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Packers-Vikings game and I think maybe low scoring. I'm going
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: to be under on this a little bit outside of Jefferson.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Lloyd on FanDuel is kind of like a free square
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: at 4900.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: What a first game of the season for you title.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I should have even went to you first. Maybe it
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: was because you were coming back to the bathroom. I
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: just forgot it, but I will say Packers at the
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Vikings is your, your spots and your guy JJ's here.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: So what are we doing with this game?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: I know it was sad. Usually I like rocking my
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: JJ Jersey to start us off for the year, but
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: I'd get absolutely flamed with all this Packers stuff in
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: the background. I still like him in DFS and he
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: is my, he is definitely my favorite play. I'm kind
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: of worried about the Packers secondary a little bit this year.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Vikings are going to be good. I mean, they're, Skull
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: Chance will be going crazy. The defense is solid. They've
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: got to protect Love. Now it's Lloyd back there. The
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: nice thing about the Packers, at least, is Watson, Reed,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: and Golden. Without Romeo Dobbs, you're going to see mainly
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: the same receivers. This isn't the week, though, that I'm
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: really going to stack up the Packers just in the future. Lloyd,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: better play on FanDuel than DraftKings. Ownership will reflect that, though.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: You just don't really need 4,800 this week. But when
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: you are fading Mayer and paying up at tight end,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: and wanting to play Chase and all that. I think
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: Lloyd is a good option to flip the build. People
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: spending up at running back, you go down. He's still
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: a starter and single-digit ownership. But Kyler to Jefferson, just Jefferson.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: I'm good with Kyler, though. Again, I'm a little worried
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: about this Packers defense. Kevin O'Connell's system, he can use
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: his legs. We always know he's a great DFS player.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: So usually, or mainly just the Vikings, Jefferson, and then
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: you can add Kyler if you want him.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm going to go with the– The golden first
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: touchdown for Nades. First TD score. It's coming through, right?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: It's Nades' year. He's dunking on our ass right away
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: when it happens, but I did see it.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: He could get off a hot start this year. He
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't have the head-to-head with Hoop to kick off his season.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: I think that put him on a bad path last year,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: you know, the week one head-to-head. where Nades is in
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: there grinding the lineup for a couple days.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: You just busted up Nades' real-life parlay because he had
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: you going to the bathroom first, and he had that
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: you were going to mention that on the parlay, but
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: the title already ruined it. It was scripted, and Vegas
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: put the call in. Sorry, Nades, there's the parlay down.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Love this, though. G5er2006 says, My six-year-old just came and
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: sat down and said, Who are your buddies on the computer?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: He said, Hi to you, thinking you could hear him.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: What's up, buddy?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: What's good?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: My son is six as well. So I like, uh,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: I got a little love for that. And like I said,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: you'll be trice real name, no limits. This guy's dropping
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: 10 bucks. Now for the record, I have four sons.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: My fourth was born in may actually on mother's day,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: which was cool because I didn't have to buy his
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: mom anything. He was the gift thoughts on lane from Ravens.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Lanes ahead of Bateman, um, from every, every indication throughout
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: the summer that, Really good camp. So if you want
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: a way to play that game and get completely off
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: the board, he's going to be wide receiver, too, and
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: he's 3,100. You can do worse, I think. But that's awesome. Congrats.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: Four kids was always what I wanted. My wife wants two,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: so I'm praying for three.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's crazy.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. She updated to two, huh? She's always
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: been two. Oh, I thought she was down for a
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: little more.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: No, but three. Yeah, now she's warming up to three.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: Once you hit the 10.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hoping.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: Once I hit the 10K today, then it's a little easier, right?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: Not even the Millie. I'm not kidding.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: This guy has it right, though, because both my kids
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: were born in May, and somehow I think I still
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: had to introduce a Mother's Day gift. So this guy's good.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: And I hate picking out gifts for people. It's like
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: the hardest thing. Yeah. Maybe I should have had a
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: couple more kids. And, you know, the tradeoff would be
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: phenomenal for me. I'd have a couple more kids and
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: not have to buy gifts. I'm into that for sure.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: I hate buying gifts for people. I'm so bad at it.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: This is what I hate. I hate vans. So I
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: can't be having four kids because I ain't getting no van.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: My wife hates it too. Grand Highlander or whatever.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you just got to get a big SUV, man.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: They're way better than the vans.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: And Nades, don't worry, man. You'll get a chance to
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: rebuttal because 6 o'clock today. He's going to be at
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Eastern with Ham on the sweat down.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: We took it easy on Nades. That was nothing. That
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: was so soft. I mean, he's been stroking to golden
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: for I don't even know how long. And then I
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: didn't even get to finish the head-to-head rant. So he's lucky. Yeah.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: This Packers-Vikings game, I'll just say that it's really hard
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: to pick a I know we made fun of the
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: golden thing, but just I'm picking between those receivers with
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Watts and Reed and golden. And then, you know, Lloyd,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: like title said, the slate just kind of doesn't dictate
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: that you can put it in different places. I think
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Lloyd is also more interesting on fan duel. He's basically
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: the same price on fan duel as he is on
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: draft Kings. And it's, you know, different. prohibitive pricing over
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: there in some cases versus how DraftKings is set up
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: this week. So still soft, but a little bit different
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: than what you see over here. Jefferson with Kyler, I
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: think is good if you want to run it back,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: but this is the type of week, like even go
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: back to the Jacoby Lane thing. If you just play
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Lamar and Lane, And then just fill it out with chalk.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: And that's what gets there. It's like, you don't have
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: to just fill it out with chalk. I'm just saying
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: you could, and people will just be like, Whoa, you
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: got all the chalk in there. Yeah. I just played
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: the best options, but you didn't play Lamar and Jacoby
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: lane to make it work. You can just play Kyler
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: and Jefferson. and figure out the rest elsewhere if you
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: want and just not have to think about you know
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: the triple stack with the run back with this in
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: week one when there's 30 value plays per position it
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: feels like you know what i mean like every there's
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: so many quarterbacks there's so many running backs so many
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: wide receivers etc etc etc so moving on hoop i'll
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: go back to you commanders at the eagles another one
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: that is uh going a little bit overlooked like you
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: know barkley not getting a ton of ownership devonta smith
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: is kind of getting that ownership of like Zay Flowers,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Parker Watt, mentioning him but not playing him enough. Jalen
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Hurts is there. But again, this is like the Jacksonville-Cleveland spot.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: Nobody wants to commit to the bigger team that they'd like,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: the Eagles or the Jaguars earlier, because of the Commanders
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: or the Browns earlier. There's nothing they really see on
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: that other side.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a tough game for me. It's like
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: I just have... no read on it whatsoever. Like I
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: could get it. Like I could understand if you made
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: the case for it, don't get me wrong. Like I, the,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: the pieces are there like Daniels McLaurin, you know, Stefan digs,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: they got Chig at, at tight end on the Eagle
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: side could be consolidated offense with, you know, Hertz Barkley,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: Devonta Smith, like, I could be talked into this one,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: but I personally have like zero read on this whatsoever.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to I'm going to have to pass
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: it on to you guys. I just don't I'm curious
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: to see what you guys say about it, I guess.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: And I could be persuaded to go a different direction.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: I just have zero read on it. So I'm going
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: to leave it at that.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: The thing is title, like when AJ, AJ Brown getting
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: out of town and then obviously the unfortunate injury for
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: him to start the season, but just, you know, looking
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: at it from that perspective, I think, you know, maybe
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: it's baked in some, but like, you know, it's, it's
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: baked in, but then people are just talking about it.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're really being about it. And what
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: I mean by that is like Barkley, very Barkley at 6,900.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: That's a spot where he could go off today. And
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: people were like, what were we thinking? Not being heavy
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: on him at $ 6, 900 at home against the commanders. And
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: then the commanders down as well too, on some of
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: the guys, um, on, on their side of the ball.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: So just think about from defense perspective, et cetera. So
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: if you look at Devonta Smith, another spot here, 6,600,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: like you could play. And also don't forget too. I
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: know they got Mackay lemon, but they also picked up
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: a guy that we used a ton last year. Your boy,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Don Tavion Wicks. He came through for us on the
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving slate. He came through us for us in a
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: couple other spots. He's 4,100 on this slate too. So
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: you could stack Hurts, Smith, Wicks, Goddard, if you want it. Again,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: don't have to run it back. I think a lot
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: of people are like, oh, need to make this happen,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: need to make it move. They could just score 30
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: points and those guys could just be part of it.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. I have a lot more interest in the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: Eagles side than the Commander side for sure. With Diggs
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: now in the picture, is it going to be Croxy
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: Merritt and White? How's that split going to look? Jaden
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: Daniels can obviously use his legs. I just think there's
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin by himself would be my favorite way on
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: the commander side. Other than that, I'm kind of want
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: to see how things play out. And it's not the
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: easiest spot on the road in Philly, implied for a
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: little under 20 points. Eagle side, though, for sure. Saquon
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: at 14%. I'm good with it. I do prefer JT
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: and Henry in a vacuum in that similar tier when
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: spending up at a not a contrarian running back, but
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: Someone not named Gibbs. I'm good with it, though. Devontae
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: Smith is my favorite, though, at 6.6K. No A.J. Brown
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: in town. Put on muscle in the offseason. The clear,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: clear wide receiver one now. Yeah, Wicks is solid. Lemon,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: we'll see how those two pan out. On a 12-game
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: main slate, it's going to be a wait-and-see approach for them.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: If I'm playing Hurts, I'm either playing him with Smith
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: or Goddard or both. I like the game. I like
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: the Eagle side, but I don't love it. It's mainly
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: the ownership stands out. You can play Gibbs around it.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: You can play more chalky stuff, and it's low enough owned.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm kind of like Hoop. I'm more torn
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: on this game than, I guess, the field. I don't
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: like the Commander side, though.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go back to Hoop in a second there.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Somebody asked, how do I get the ship at Avatar?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Anybody can rock it, but to get part of the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: winner's circle, you got to be a member. Anything with
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: a Saber Sim plan, including the early bird special. There's
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of other sites, other shows on, things like that.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think any of them are giving away 45,000
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: in cash and prizes. So if you want to get
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: in with the nation and get into ship at games,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: you can also just click this at the top and
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: find out all the details, but there's still time to
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: get in. But you go to winner's circle and you
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: click logos and and it will drop you right down
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: to the two. I prefer the one on the left,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: but it's to each their own. I'm a gradient guy,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: if you will, but both logos, more than fine, and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: both are in play when it comes to what's required
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: for winner's circle. Hoop, did those thoughts fresher you up
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: for anything more you wanted to add to the Eagles
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: at home versus Commanders?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Eagles, so what I took from it
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: and what I would likely do is play the Eagles,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: but I just don't think I need to force a
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: run back in that situation, and I.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Think you might have said it with Barkley. At the
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: end of the day, if Barkley is the guy you needed,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: would you be surprised at all? No. He has massive upside.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Devonta Smith, Goddard. There's ways to play it, and I
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: think I'd play it probably without forcing in a run back.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: I like what you guys had to say there.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Someone mentioned too in the chat, Goddard, he's another guy
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: that fits the same as I mentioned with Warren and
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: Andrews and Loveland and all those guys as one-offs. If
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: you're not in this game or you just want to
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: pick up a piece of it, he's 4,100 at a
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: different position than say like when we get to Trey
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: Tucker is 4K or Wicks could be the same thing.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: If you got 4,100 left instead of Tucker at 4K,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: you can play Wicks. Like there's a couple of different
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: ways you can go about it. This is a game, though,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: title I think a lot more people will go about playing,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: and that's the Chargers at home versus the Cardinals. Herbert, McConkie,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston, other side, McBride, and then, of course, the
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: reason I'm going to you first, we got Randy Moss Jr.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: in Michael Wilson. Everyone thinks we're probably talking about Marvin Harrison.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: He's the Jr. But no, we're talking about not Mazda Marv.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: We're talking about Michael Wilson.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. That's Randy Moss Jr. I mean, yeah, Stone Cold.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: That was honestly one of my most memorable moments. I
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: was thinking about it maybe yesterday. What was one of
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: the most memorable moments last season? I think that was
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: definitely top three for me. The best part about it
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: is you just said it so nonchalant, just going along
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: with it and compared the dude to Randy Moss.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you just watch the games and you
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: didn't see the number or the name on the back,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: you would think so. I mean, what did he do
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: when I say it? What did he do? Like, lost
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: three guys for a touchdown. The dude's the freaking man. So, yeah,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: we'll get to that side in a sec. Because the
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: Chargers are the ones that everyone wants to play. And
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: rightfully so. I'm going to play them. Like, I like
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: this chalk. And the chalk's different. This chalk's a little
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: less chalky than the Detroit stuff. But I like this
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: one more. I mean, picking on the Cardinals is going
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: to be a print fest all year. This team is
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: absolutely atrocious. The Chargers, and now Mike McDaniel calling the plays.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: They're going to absolutely shred this Arizona team. And I
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: think it's going to be relatively concentrated. I think it's
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: going to be Ladd and QJ mainly at receiver. And
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: it's going to be Hampton at running back. At least
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: that's what I'm hoping because those are the four I
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: just want to jam today. Ladd, QJ, Herbert, Hampton, call
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: it a day. And then going to the Arizona side
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: is where they're all really, really low owned. I mean,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: Trey McBride's even showing really low ownership. So when you
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: do stack it up, then you think that they're going
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: to be playing from behind And I want to play
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: the Cardinals when Jacoby Brissett is playing. I don't want it.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: This got the rookie out of Miami. I don't know
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: why I'm drawing a blank on his name, but it's
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: going to piss me off.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: So I have to look it up.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: Carson Beck. There we go. Before I even typed it in.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: So I want Brissett. I mean, Brissett gets the ball
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: out to his receivers and they can get down field,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: make plays. And in the fourth quarter, when they're down 21,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: you still get the same amount of points in garbage time,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: which we saw all year. So even though the Chargers
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: are chalky, I like this game more because the other
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: side is completely unknown, whereas the Saints, it's at least
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: pretty hard to find it. So, yeah, Michael Wilson is
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: the man. I'm playing him. He's still too cheap. The
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: props are bad. Ownership's nowhere to be found. He's getting
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: a manual bump in the runbacks. I'm fine with Marvin Harrison.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: I'm fine with Trey McBride. But, yeah, that side's going
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: to struggle. It's mainly I think you're playing for second-half
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: garbage time, and Wilson at 1% is the way I'm
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: going to cut in to the Chargers that are chalky.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: but I think rightfully so they're implied for almost 30 points.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: I agree on a lot of that. And also a
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: couple of notes I'll say is that one, if you
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: are running it back, the good news is all the
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: runbacks are not, are completely unowned pretty much. So that's
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: the setup where if you're going to Herbert side, but
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: you can go Herbert Hampton lad QJ, you can mix
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: it up. They got tight ends there that you can
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: use as well. So it's, I think that's somewhat interesting,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: but I also think a lot of people are trying
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: to force the run back. And I noticed this, it
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: looks cool when it's like Herbert McConkie, Johnston and McBride,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: that's definitely a fun lineup and can get there for
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: you in a big, big way. It sets you up
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: differently on this slate as a whole, but if it
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't work out for you and you're like, man, it's
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: kind of McBride dragging me down. I'm fine with just
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: not using that and going somewhere else and just saying, look,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: I want Herbert McConkie, Johnston. I think McBride is, is
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: going to drive this game or maybe it's wilson or
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: maybe it's here or whoever does push this game enough
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: great but because they're almost so unowned anyway and there's
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: just other plays that you'd feel better about or different
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: spots or whatever it might be i would be very
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: comfortable just switching it up that way hoop what do
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: you got.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah i mean it's good spot i was for the
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: chargers mcdaniel there and everything the offense should be in
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: phenomenal shape uh The one thing though, for me in
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: this game, like you, I think you want something on
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: the Cardinal side, just with, with Harbaugh, like they get
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: the big lead, you know, he's totally fine just shutting
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: it down and they have three running back. So I
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: think he comes in and says, all right, this is over.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: We're done. Let's move on. They have three guys. They'll
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: use that running back. So I think I want to
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: run back. Like, I think I want one of those
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: Cardinals guys. So if you are someone that puts rules in,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: like if I'm stacking the chargers, I want something on
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: the Cardinal side and it's McBride Harrison, Wilson. I think
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: they're all, uh, fine options, McBride for sure. Like people
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: are just naturally going to be trying to go cheaper
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: at tight end. You got the mayor play, which we'll
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: get to next McBride, uh, pretty darn expensive compared to him.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, you will, and just overall on the slate,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: you look at the salaries, like you got McBride at 6,800
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: at tight end. And the next most expensive guy is, uh,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Loveland at 53. And then you go down to 49
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: with Taylor. So, um, You got a $ 1, 500 drop and
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: a almost $ 1, 900 down to Tyler Warren. So you have
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: a spend up to be somewhat different sort of play.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: McBride showing we have him at 5%, 6%. That's insane
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: for a guy that is probably the top tight end
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: in the league and can absolutely nuke a slate and
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: already has a connection with his quarterback. It's not like
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: this is just a random playoff. situation where, you know,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: they need some continuity and they need some time to
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: work like McBride at a 6,800 having the connection with percent.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: I think he's a phenomenal run back and yeah, it
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: should be relatively concentrated like Herbert McConkie and Quentin Johnson.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: And then I don't mind throwing in Trey Harris. I mean,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of good talk around him in the
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: off season. So I think you can throw him into
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: those stats as well. Um, Did I just become the
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: last guy on this show to take a bathroom break?
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get two bucks, man.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: Wow. Imagine what would that have paid preseason before we
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: started our show?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: I know you can't wait to go now.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: Hoopa's holding it so hard. He's like, oh, gosh.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: I'm going to piss my pants before I go for
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: a bathroom break. I can promise you guys that.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is I don't think I've ever
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: left a show to go for one. And now it's like,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: you know what? Title started it. I'm going to do it.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: And I knew you had McBride. I was like, this
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: will be at least time for me to go and
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: take a piss. So I'm glad.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: That bet would have paid a lot. Like, no joke.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: If there was a dummy line or some sort of
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: line out there that I was the last guy to
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: take a bathroom break, third show of the season. Like, insane, man.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: You would have made some big bucks.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: And what about this? Poop 24 10. Maybe it's going
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: to be a number two when he goes. So that's
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: why he's waiting. All right. So I, okay. We're good
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: on this game. We've got the final game of the
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: slate guys. We've got the dolphins at the Raiders title.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: I'll go to you to start. This is, um, I
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: don't know, like I'm hearing different things. I know it's interesting,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: but if you look at our stack rankings, there's some
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: talk there. And then you've got like, okay, if I'm
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: going to play Mayer, how can I play him differently?
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: Or what are some things that I can do? So
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: give me your thoughts here. Raiders at home versus the Dolphins.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was unfortunate seeing the Brock Bauer stuff for
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: a lot of reasons, but it really changed this whole slate.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: Like the Trey Tucker, Michael Mayer stuff. And this is
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: why we're seeing the Stars and Scrubs and some of
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: those mid-tier wide receivers and even running backs. aren't getting
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: as much ownership. Why Gibbs is able to be even
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: higher on and Jamar chase because of this. I mean,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: mayor's still mayor's implied for 41 and a half receiving yards,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: Trey Tucker, 46 and a half. Both of those, the
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: two highest in this game, mayor, the most receptions in
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: this game, four and a half, a little juice on
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: the over. I mean, that's good. If he's got right there,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: five balls for 42 yards, you're looking at a little
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: over nine points, not great in tournaments, but that's like
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: his median outcome right now. I'm going to play a lot,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: I think, at 2,900. You can't draw up a better
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: spot for the Raiders. I mean, they're still favored. They're
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: at home. Dolphins are going to be really bad. I'm
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: going to play it and just move on. Man, the
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: really interesting one is Ashton Gentry. Obviously, I mean, people
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: thought he maybe tore his ACL or something. Just found
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: out it was an ankle. Now he's going to play
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: week one. He's 6,600. There was no.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: Injury worry at all in the preseason. He just went
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: right in week one healthy. I think he'd be higher owned.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: I think he'd be one of the best plays. Like
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: the Dolphins are so bad. And Jenty's going to get
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: the best vital level year at home. And now without
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: Brock Bowers with Kirk Cousins back there, don't you expect
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: him to try and run the football and make some
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: easy throws? That's what I would do. So I am
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: going to play a good amount of Jenty at low ownership.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: And on the other side, I think A-chan's one of
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: the best plays on the slate. He can just get
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: it done in so many ways. And yeah, with Caleb
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: Douglas and Chris Bell and Leek Washington, that's who the
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: Dolphins are trotting out at wide receiver. Get the ball
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: to A-Chan. He is their best receiver. He's their best
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: running back. He'll do it all in this game. Yeah,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: it's relatively chalky. Again, Gentier, I think, is the way
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get difference. Raiders defense with Gentier is
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: something I'm interested in. And then Mayer, Trey Tucker, sure.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not playing the quarterbacks in this one, though.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: Nate Naylor, shout out to our guy, man. You know,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: get the Naylor cousins connection. But I don't think anyone's
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: clicking those guys. Like I've heard mention of like Caleb Douglas,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Chris Bell, Naylor, some of those options on both sides
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: of this game. But it's when people get stacking it,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: I think it just becomes cousins, Tucker, Mayer. And then
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: they put a Chan and I don't really have a
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: problem with that. If that's where they're going. You know,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: you did hit on this. Our man Beetle Bane, he
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: always supporting. I appreciate that. Says, you know, people are
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: talking about. you know, super fragile, but I can't find
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: myself getting less in the field. It's really not even
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: about him as the play because typically like chalk tight
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: ends don't work out and, and as a cheap, sorry,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: chalk tight ends specifically. But if you're looking at it
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: from this perspective, it could be, it's what the other
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: people do. It's like the eight points. You know, if
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: you get six to eight points, that could still be phenomenal.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: If you now get four guys with 30 plus instead
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: of three guys with 30.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: That's the spot. If there's going to be a bust
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: in your lineup, that's the spot where you want it
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: to be. A guy that costs you nothing and is
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: the tight end position. It happens all the time where
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: the tight end busts and you're still fine. You can
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: still make money. Are you going to ship them Millie
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: if Mayer goes out and gets zero?
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: But in other contests, it can work out totally fine.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: So that's just another thing to consider for sure. I
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: think it's a good point. Go ahead. Oh, do you
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: want me to just go into the game? I'm sorry.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: I kind of took your thunder.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: I agree with what Tyler, the main point for me
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: with this game is these running backs. And for both
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: of them, it's probably the best spot of the season.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: Like these teams are terrible. They're not going to be good.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: And their week one matchup is the best. I think
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: a champ is, let me pull up the ownership because
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's lower than what people think.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: It's going to, you got them at 17.4.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be lower than that. And,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: There's so many other options. You got the Gibbs play
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: where we know he's going to be massively, massively on there.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: We're showing 17.4. Other spots are showing higher. I think
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: it comes in lower. We'll see. Either way, it's the
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: best spot. They've talked in the preseason, willing to give
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: this guy like, what was the number? They said like
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: 40 touches or something like this is the best spot
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: for him. I think he's a phenomenal play today. Phenomenal play.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: When you take everything into account, look at the past catchers,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: look at the guys on this team. Like he is,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: he has the potential for eight to 10 catches. He's
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: going to get the goal line work. He's going to
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: do everything out there. Love him. And then Gentry on
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: the other side, like everyone, you would have thought if
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: you went on Twitter after that or Twitter X, whatever
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: you call it after that injury, you would have thought
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: the guy died on the field. Like you literally would
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: have thought he was dead and now he's playing in
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: week one. And it's again, for him, the best, probably
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: the best spot he has is, all season long has
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: to be somewhat close to a hundred percent. I think
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: he is a really, really good play. And then you
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: look at the ownership.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: Like 11, 10 to 11%. Like both these guys are,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: it's the best matchup they're going to have. Michael Mayer,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. The one I'm not, I'm a
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: little hesitant on is Trey Tucker. If he's going to
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: get like the, you know, the cheap quarter or cheap
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: wide receiver tag that everyone kind of goes to, like,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not, As in tune with that or on board
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: with that, I should say, 11, we're showing like, yeah,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: almost 12%. There's a lot of cheap wide receivers you
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: can play. And really with a lot of lineups, you
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: don't even need it because the salary is so soft.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: So he's the one play in this game that I'm
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: not as excited about. Mayer for sure. And then those
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: running backs, I think are really good plays, but HN
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: And you talk about it all the time too, but
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: like with, in Saber Sim, you could just take our projections.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: And if you feel before you run it, that it's like,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: it's going to be Naylor instead of Tucker and just
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: flip their projection. You didn't, you, you're not like you
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: had to go figure out everybody else that you robbed
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: the projection from. You just said, I think it's going
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: to be this guy instead of this guy. And then
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: it's going to show up. You're going to get more
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: of him. And you just happen to have that, not
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: saying that's the move, just noting it, that you guys
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: can do that stuff. If that's how you feel about it.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: So I think that's kind of something I, you know,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: we've always talked about on this show. I think it's
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: important to consider title. Any final thoughts from you on
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: this slate as a whole? I think we've covered pretty
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: much everything. Feel good about where we're at going into it.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: We will have ham and Bellman coming up at 1130 Eastern.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: Once the inactives hit and talk through position by position
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: for contrarian constructions, which is going after the top heavy
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: prize pools on both DraftKings and FanDuel, the big $ 5 millies,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. Any final thoughts from you title before
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: we get out of here?
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I just think circle back to everything. We
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: go game by game, who we like and all of that.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: But Daily Fantasy, it's a salary, it's an ownership game.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: It's how many people are in your tournament. These $ 5
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: contests on both sites today have hundreds and hundreds of
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: thousands of people. Just imagine sitting at whatever home stadium
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: you are as an NFL fan and then multiplying that
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: by like six, seven. That's what you have to do
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: to beat everyone. So the point of this, what I'm
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: saying is, okay, when you play Gibbs or whatever that is,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: You have to get off the board somewhere in those
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: very big contests. If you're playing a 200-man single entry,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: you should build it completely different. And then don't forget
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: about late swap. With 12 games, that means that we
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: have four in the afternoon window and four solid ones
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: that's going to have some ownership. We talked about Mayer, A-Chan,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: the Chargers stuff. There is ownership in the late games.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: So depending on how your noon games are going, you
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: should be changing your teams, whether it's having to play catch-up.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: Now you can go back. A lot of low-owned plays
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: to chalk because I'm doing really well, and I don't
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: need to play catch-up and all that stuff. So, I mean,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: enjoy it. Football on our screen all day. It's my
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: favorite days of the year. Yeah, good luck to everybody
• 1:36:22
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• 1:36:25
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• 1:36:27
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• 1:36:31
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• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: you get some benefits for free for just rocking with us.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually a bonus way as well. In the
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: Ship It Games this year, we made it for the
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: additional benefits of Winner's Circle. You already get the 1K wins.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: Even I saw a bunch of people in the CFB
• 1:36:46
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• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: on the regular Winner's Circle. Now, when it comes to
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: Ship It Games, we added another bonus tier to for
• 1:36:54
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• 1:36:56
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• 1:36:59
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• 1:37:02
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• 1:37:05
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• 1:37:08
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• 1:37:10
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• 1:37:13
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• 1:37:16
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• 1:37:20
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• 1:37:23
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• 1:37:24
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• 1:37:27
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• 1:37:30
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• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: we get out of here.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Excited for week one. It's a long season though.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: I will say.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: Take it easy. Don't blow your load. Week one of
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: the NFL season makes the rest of the season not
• 1:37:43
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• 1:37:45
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• 1:37:50
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• 1:37:54
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• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just saw Jack Strand will be Cooper Rush's backup.
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