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Ep. 50 - A Special 50th Episode of Beyond the Paw! · Beyond the Paw - Clemson Athletics

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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to another episode of Beyond the Pod. Today,
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Speaker 1: we have a special edition, our fiftieth episode.
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Speaker 2: We've had fifty awesome.
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Speaker 1: Guests over the years, so we're going to spend some
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Speaker 1: time it's reflecting back on some of those top moments.
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Speaker 3: The episode fifty Crazy and the athletes began Alley taking
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Speaker 3: over from Megan and Alley, and they did their fair
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Speaker 3: share of athletes. They started this whole process, this whole
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Speaker 3: thing hearing athletes stories and being able to, you know,
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Speaker 3: put those athletes in people's spaces in a way that
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Speaker 3: they would never see.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, credits to them for starting it, because.
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Speaker 2: That's when they came up with the idea.
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Speaker 1: They're like, you want to tell those stories of the
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Speaker 1: athletes that Clemson, of the people of Clemson, and what
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Speaker 1: is more than just being an athlete. And I remember
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Speaker 1: that first meeting. I'm like, wait, this is a good idea,
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Speaker 1: so unique.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, if the episodes later, what other podcast is like this,
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Speaker 4: you know, and.
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Speaker 3: What other place would be willing to do this too?
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Speaker 3: Then Clemson? Then Clemson.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very cool what they've started and what we've
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Speaker 3: been able to like do as we've started to take
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Speaker 3: over and you know, meeting these different athletes is very cool.
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Speaker 3: Like I was, I was reflecting the other day and
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Speaker 3: I was like, this is I don't think I've met
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Speaker 3: more people than like reaching out to athletes on this episode.
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Speaker 3: The amount of like people from different sports, different backgrounds,
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Speaker 3: different countries, different places, like it's it's insane.
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Speaker 4: The amount of times where I felt like I'm just
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Speaker 4: like jaw dropped, like stunned, like I just want to
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Speaker 4: listen like crazy, because so many people do have stories
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Speaker 4: that you just don't know unless you like truly like
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Speaker 4: pull it out and uncover it.
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Speaker 2: So it's so cool and it's been so unique.
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Speaker 1: And when we've been learning about sports, yeah, I feel
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Speaker 1: like we do talk a lot about their stories beyond
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Speaker 1: their sport, But how many good conversations we've had of
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Speaker 1: just how do you do your sport?
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Speaker 2: Or what does that even mean?
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Speaker 1: Or you know, just because you're an athlete that's really
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Speaker 1: good at one sport doesn't even mean you understand anything
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Speaker 1: about another athletes experience in their sport.
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Speaker 2: So I think that's been really fun for me.
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Speaker 1: It's just their perspective on their sport and it can
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Speaker 1: sound so hard. Yeah, I think it is a fun
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Speaker 1: process too, right, people get to see that we just.
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Speaker 5: Yap for an hour, which is.
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Speaker 2: Really fun, but there's also a lot of work.
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Speaker 1: Behind the scenes, and so grateful takes adventures for all
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Speaker 1: that they do to make this happen. And like you said,
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Speaker 1: shout out, yeah, but like doing this for fifty episodes
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Speaker 1: and we're going to keep going, like what other school
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Speaker 1: would even do that Clemson, But also the amount of
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Speaker 1: time that we're texting and okay, who should we bring
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Speaker 1: on and reaching out to athletes and having them come on,
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Speaker 1: then scheduling and finding a time with YouTube being student
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Speaker 1: athletes and then another student athlete, and then filming it.
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Speaker 1: Like it's not easy, but it's so rewarding to meet
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Speaker 1: those student athletes.
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Speaker 2: And I think to your point, I.
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Speaker 1: The smiles in the hallways, like that's where I'm always like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I know that person so much more, and so it's
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Speaker 1: made it more fun to get to know student athletes.
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Speaker 3: I think every person who we've had on an episode,
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Speaker 3: like I've seen them afterwards and they will like, hey,
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Speaker 3: how's going who you guys have a next Like yeah,
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Speaker 3: so cool, Like they actually, you know, remember the conversations
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Speaker 3: and it's important to them and to share their stories.
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Speaker 3: So it's really cool to see Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I feel like too, when like Megan and
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Speaker 4: Ally had the podcast and like they had someone on
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Speaker 4: and like I would listen, I would be like I
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Speaker 4: know you too. Yeah, I would see them and be
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Speaker 4: like okay, like you're so cool, like just that type
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Speaker 4: of vibe. So like it really truly is like just
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Speaker 4: a connector on all us fifty episodes. That's insane. Does
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Speaker 4: it feel like fifty because you've been on all.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what I was saying earlier, is like it
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Speaker 1: feels like we've been doing this for so long. But
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Speaker 1: also when I think of fifty different times that we've
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Speaker 1: sat down and had a conversation, it's crazy. But then
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Speaker 1: I think back about all the guests that we've had
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Speaker 1: over the years and how much fun it's been to
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Speaker 1: get to learn and hear their stories and laugh and
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Speaker 1: ask questions, and.
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Speaker 2: Like, oh, what are cool?
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Speaker 3: I'm very grateful. Yeah, opportunity. No, that's definitely very cool.
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Speaker 3: I feel like my favorite part is meeting with the
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Speaker 3: athlete outside before coming in in the chit chat before
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Speaker 3: we actually come on the podcast too, because sometimes they're
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Speaker 3: like a little bit nervous, and so we get to
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Speaker 3: like assure them like, no, this is fun, Like this
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Speaker 3: is a normal conversation. It's not live, it's recorded all
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Speaker 3: of that sort of stuff. So they feel more comfortable
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Speaker 3: with us and more comfortable with sharing their story too,
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Speaker 3: because I mean, it can't be scary, you know, talking
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Speaker 3: about on a podcast. Yeah, they've never done it before,
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Speaker 3: so it can be scary, and you have to be
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Speaker 3: a little bit vulnerable, or we try to have them
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Speaker 3: be a little bit vulnerable so people get a better
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Speaker 3: understanding of them. But it's always cool to see them
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Speaker 3: break out of their shell too on the podcast too.
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Speaker 4: I think it's always fun and this just happened. But
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Speaker 4: like when you do research on someone and then they're like, how.
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Speaker 3: Did you know that?
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Speaker 4: Like I know when I was on it, like with
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Speaker 4: Megan and Alley, they like brought up some crazy fashion.
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Speaker 5: How do you know that?
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Speaker 4: Like just crazy stuff, But like you would never know
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Speaker 4: that about some of the unless like you truly like
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Speaker 4: dug deep into them, and I guess it's like kind
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Speaker 4: of stalking, but like we're the googling. Yeah, but no,
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Speaker 4: that's been a cool part about it, just like finding
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Speaker 4: those like a little fun facts about everyone that like
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Speaker 4: you would never know.
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Speaker 1: And you know what's impressive, Rarely do we have to
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Speaker 1: make edits. Really people are just like yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: besides us three having that up. But I'm always impressed
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Speaker 1: when we're like, it's okay, we can cut things out
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Speaker 1: or weekend whatever.
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Speaker 6: There.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we'll just a roll.
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Speaker 3: Such a good conversation, should we take a look, let's recap.
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Speaker 7: I ended up saying yes, And that summer in June,
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Speaker 7: I went to like a local like the fire school
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Speaker 7: and a coney got all my credentials finished up. So
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Speaker 7: I became a South Carolina firefighter.
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Speaker 3: That is insane. Sorry, that is just crazy. Like you said,
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Speaker 3: it's so cat Okay, we're sitting amongst a firefighter.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I got to respect the fact that there's
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Speaker 7: got as the go to, like the South Carolina Fire Academy,
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Speaker 7: and it's a very different. Like I went to a
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Speaker 7: fire school, so I still got the credentials. I'm still
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Speaker 7: the same, but you know, I didn't go to the paramilitary,
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Speaker 7: so I have a little respect for the guys that
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Speaker 7: you know went there and.
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Speaker 3: Still got yelled at.
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Speaker 7: So yeah, but yeah, so I finished that and then
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Speaker 7: this past year. I was working on my anti certification
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Speaker 7: over the whole year, so I was able to pass
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Speaker 7: my exam, so I'm officially empty sort of certified. So
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Speaker 7: I got it.
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Speaker 3: Let's go sack.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: So you know, they're they're great guys down there, and
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Speaker 7: they're really hard working, and you know, I'm thankful to
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Speaker 7: a lot of them that really took me in and
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Speaker 7: even through all the jokes and pranks that they made
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Speaker 7: me one of theirs, and they were able to give
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Speaker 7: me a lot of those opportunities. And you know, even
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Speaker 7: still to this day, I'm still able to work with
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Speaker 7: them and hang out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: How was that like balance going?
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Speaker 4: Like, I know, it's got to be like a lot
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Speaker 4: of extra work, and you know, along with soccer in school,
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Speaker 4: like that's got.
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Speaker 1: To be a lot.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: I mean it's not as bad as you think. So
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Speaker 7: I've kind of remained intern just because it's way more flexible.
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Speaker 7: So you know, I'm technically a part time firefighter for them.
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Speaker 7: But the problem with being a part time firefighter is
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Speaker 7: like you kind of need your schedule to match up
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Speaker 7: on like a specific day. So obviously when I'm doing
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Speaker 7: soccer in school throughout the year, it's kind of hard
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Speaker 7: to have like a random you know in firefighter, like
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Speaker 7: we all work twenty four hour shifts or they work
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Speaker 7: for twenty four hour shifts.
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Speaker 3: So not be like on call.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so when you're there, like you're pretty much you're
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Speaker 7: on call the whole time. You have a different role.
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Speaker 7: So you know, if I'm there, you know, I might
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Speaker 7: be on the engine like the fire truck.
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Speaker 3: Do you ever get to slide down like the fire
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Speaker 3: We don't have a pole?
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Speaker 5: Sorry, the biggest question, I.
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Speaker 7: Know, I get it asked all the time. I'm like
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Speaker 7: that was like, it's okay, I get asked that all
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Speaker 7: the time. It's I mean too, I wish we had
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Speaker 7: a poll, but no, no poll. But everything else, you know,
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Speaker 7: those sirens go off in the building and you got
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Speaker 7: to get to the car, and you have like dispatch
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Speaker 7: and stuff like that. So a lot of communications come
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Speaker 7: through like the radio and you're just trying to get
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Speaker 7: as much information as you can. And then we have
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Speaker 7: like software that like really helps out with you know
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Speaker 7: who's who's going because not everyone goes like if it's
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Speaker 7: a commercial fire alarm, you know typically only like it's
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Speaker 7: called engine nine to one, Like engine nine one's going.
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Speaker 7: So that's like just one fire truck. But if it's
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Speaker 7: you know, some kid downtown falls and needs stitches on
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Speaker 7: his knee or something like he has a laceration, like
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Speaker 7: that's just gonna be It's called Medic nine one. So
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Speaker 7: that's just the ambulance. So you get information like that.
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Speaker 7: So but yeah, you're on call like twenty four seven
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Speaker 7: when you're there, Yeah, it's it's not it's not easy. Yeah,
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Speaker 7: there's a lot of downs on. But I mean I
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Speaker 7: always like like to say, like those guys are funny,
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Speaker 7: because a lot of them are you know, they're jokes,
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Speaker 7: there's whatever. They're really good guys, but then they have
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Speaker 7: that professional switch. I mean they those guys are smart.
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Speaker 7: They know what they're doing. I Mean I was shocked
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Speaker 7: to know how much paramedics have to have to know,
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Speaker 7: like what they're what they have to do on the
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Speaker 7: job is incredible. I Mean, one of my mentors, Brendan Harrington,
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Speaker 7: he's a paramedic, he's my empty instructor. He's one of
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Speaker 7: the guys that really took me in and uh, that
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Speaker 7: dude is one of the funniest guys you'll ever meet.
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Speaker 7: And you would not believe you would be like this
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Speaker 7: guy is saving someone, you know, get a little worried,
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Speaker 7: But no, when.
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Speaker 2: You're on you're when you're on a call with him.
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Speaker 7: I mean that dude is locked in and he is professional,
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Speaker 7: he is calm, he is composed, and that's something that's
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Speaker 7: very hard to do depending on the call. But yeah,
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Speaker 7: that's that's not easy. And he's got it down and
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Speaker 7: and the rest of them have it down too. And
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Speaker 7: that's that's all of them. And it's pretty cool to watch,
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Speaker 7: you know. When the call goes out, it's they're they're
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Speaker 7: on it, you know. And that's all the guys I've
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Speaker 7: met the department.
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Speaker 3: I just have to say, like I have so much
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Speaker 3: respect for firefighters too, like just in general, because like
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Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, my hometown, we had the LA fires
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Speaker 3: and all of that happening, and I saw so many
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Speaker 3: videos of people like literally sacrificing their lives for other
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Speaker 3: people's homes, for other people's animals. Like you literally have
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Speaker 3: to have some sort of quality about you that's like
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Speaker 3: self sacrifice kind of like that way or like that's insane,
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Speaker 3: like the stuff that they do to save other people
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Speaker 3: and save their belonging, save their things, like It's incredible
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Speaker 3: to me. So that's so cool you're doing that wall
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Speaker 3: playing soccer like at the Division IE level and doing
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Speaker 3: school and all of that.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm really glad it worked out. It's been a
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Speaker 7: great experience.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 7: I've been able to go on some interesting, cool calls.
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Speaker 7: I guess, you know, I'm during my time. So yeah,
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Speaker 7: I'm pretty thankful for that.
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Speaker 3: What's been your favorite favorite, I mean, not favorite.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not going to say that most.
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Speaker 8: Interesting, interesting, the most interesting.
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Speaker 7: Well, so I had my first empt patient contact like myself. Now,
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Speaker 7: I gotta like hippa and all that and the other.
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Speaker 7: But yeah, but it was during the soccer camp and
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Speaker 7: we had a one of the campers had a seizure.
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Speaker 7: So I was with Greg Gregory, one of the athletic trainers,
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Speaker 7: and we got kind of a phone call and I
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Speaker 7: could tell something was up, you know, and I want
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Speaker 7: to be a part of it. So I was like, Greg, what,
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Speaker 7: like what was going on? He said, you know, come
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Speaker 7: with me. So we went and uh, you know, a
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Speaker 7: kid was seizing. So we just kind of got on
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Speaker 7: the field with him and Greg and I just kind
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Speaker 7: of went to work. And Greg is pretty cool about
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Speaker 7: kind of letting me handle it, and you know, I
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Speaker 7: was I was able to not screw it up, so
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Speaker 7: he was he was fine.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 7: We got him to the hospital and he's he's okay.
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Speaker 4: And uh.
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Speaker 7: Another crazy one.
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Speaker 9: Was a year ago.
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Speaker 7: I was a part of my my first cardiac arrest.
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Speaker 7: And yeah, so that one that went off I was at.
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Speaker 7: I was at station one that one went off, and uh,
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Speaker 7: but Station two was to it first, which is a
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Speaker 7: separate station. So we're kind of just waiting. You could
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Speaker 7: hear it on the radios, and then eventually we got
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Speaker 7: called out for it, so we knew it was kind
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Speaker 7: of something. Okay, this is this is big, I guess,
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Speaker 7: and we went out and I remember I got nervous
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Speaker 7: because the same guy I was talking about, Brendan Harrington,
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Speaker 7: he was on the engine with me, so I wasn't
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Speaker 7: on the ambulance. I was on the engine with him,
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Speaker 7: and he was like, you ready to like be prepared
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Speaker 7: to do CPR and all that, and I'm like, what,
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Speaker 7: you know, that's that was kind of scared. You know,
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Speaker 7: it's intimidating, you know, it's it gets real. Thankfully I
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Speaker 7: didn't have to. He was he was brought back by
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Speaker 7: the time we got there. But it's a very surreal experience.
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Speaker 7: It's that was the first time like I've saw I've
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Speaker 7: seen it like firsthand, like aside from like the movies
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Speaker 7: or TV though it's like, oh, someone's like they just
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Speaker 7: grabbed their chest and they fall Like no, I was
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Speaker 7: not like that. I mean, it's it's complete chaos.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 7: I mean the patient, you know, pale, you know, the
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Speaker 7: whole nine yard is they don't they don't look good,
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Speaker 7: you know, they and it's kind of a scary site.
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Speaker 7: You kind of freeze up a little bit. And again
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Speaker 7: I shout out this, like those paramedics are incredible. I
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Speaker 7: mean I remember as they're working on this guy. I
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Speaker 7: mean they're they're pushing you know, the medications, and they're
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Speaker 7: they're getting all the wires, like all everything set up,
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Speaker 7: and it's mayhem in there, and the family's in the
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Speaker 7: living room. I mean it's these paramedics they kind of
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Speaker 7: maybe see that I'm a little like I'm a new yuy,
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Speaker 7: I'm like whoa you know, And I remember this one
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Speaker 7: paramedic he turns me. He's like, hey, man, like what's
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Speaker 7: your name? Like, and I'm like Aiden, He's like Hey,
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Speaker 7: do you mind just like grabbing that for like so calm,
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Speaker 7: you know, and that kind of like oh okay, like Mack,
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Speaker 7: we're just composed, yeah, like we don't need to freak out,
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Speaker 7: like we know what we're doing. They know what we're doing,
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Speaker 7: you know.
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Speaker 3: So like meanwhile, he's helping something.
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Speaker 5: He's like, hey, can you know he's.
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Speaker 7: Literally with the patient, and like I'm more of like
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Speaker 7: I want to make sure like I'm not in the way,
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Speaker 7: like I'm here to help. So if I need to
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Speaker 7: grab something, I need to like support in any way
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Speaker 7: possible shout me out. But like he was literally with
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Speaker 7: the patient.
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Speaker 8: He like turns me.
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Speaker 7: He's just like yeah, like what's up, buddy, Like what's
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Speaker 7: your name? Like I we haven't met, Like I'm like, dude,
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Speaker 7: what are you doing? I think like he's yeah, whatever.
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Speaker 7: But but that's like again, that's one of the qualities
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Speaker 7: that those guys have, and that's you need that, you know,
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Speaker 7: to be able to just be that level headed in
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Speaker 7: a moment like that, you know, because you know, sometimes
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Speaker 7: like when you're going on a call like that, adrenaline
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Speaker 7: spikes and you're ready just like you're so excited, you know,
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Speaker 7: and you got to bring yourself down because you know,
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Speaker 7: you're more likely to make errors when you're that jacked up,
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Speaker 7: you know, so you got to bring yourself down. You
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Speaker 7: got to think clearly of like kind of what's your steps,
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Speaker 7: What's what's the first thing you're doing off the truck,
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Speaker 7: you know. So it's kind of went off track there.
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Speaker 7: But we got the patient out and we were we
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Speaker 7: were able to life flight him. So we had a helicopter.
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Speaker 7: That was my favorite part about it. I had someone
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Speaker 7: toss me the keys to one of the cars and
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Speaker 7: I had the light, the lights and the siren and
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Speaker 7: I got to drive like one hundred feet but I
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Speaker 7: love that the best hundred feet of my life. I
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Speaker 7: was driving it. We set up a perimeter and helicopter
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Speaker 7: came in and took him, took him away. So and
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Speaker 7: he actually ended up surviving with no brain damage.
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Speaker 3: Which amazing.
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Speaker 7: So that was pretty cool to be a part of.
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Speaker 7: And again, like the people that the nurse or the
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Speaker 7: flight nurses, the paramedics, I mean, the people in the scene,
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Speaker 7: they are incredible people. I mean the way they act
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Speaker 7: so quickly and calmly, and you know that I would
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Speaker 7: not be alive today without without their quick thinking and
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Speaker 7: quick actions.
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Speaker 9: It was a big decision for my dad to let
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Speaker 9: me go another country and kind of just if something
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Speaker 9: happens bad, he can't even come here.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 9: He didn't have VS and stuff like that, so it's
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Speaker 9: like you're on your own.
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Speaker 1: Boy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's got to be a lot of nerves with
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Speaker 3: letting your child in a different kintry.
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Speaker 9: I mean I was excited because, like you, kind of
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Speaker 9: a Naiven, like a little bit delusion, like everything's going
15:45
Speaker 9: to work out when you're like eighteen nineteen. But yeah,
15:48
Speaker 9: like me kind of thinking about kids now. I was like,
15:50
Speaker 9: I don't know how he'd done it, like go in
15:52
Speaker 9: another country, just won't wait ticket.
15:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of faith and trust in that and
15:58
Speaker 1: your journey to just even get over here.
16:00
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
16:01
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was miserable. It almost didn't happen. That's how
16:04
Speaker 9: miserable it was. I've always give up.
16:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you mind sharing a little bit of that.
16:08
Speaker 9: It's gonna take another thirty minutes. I got details, but sure.
16:13
Speaker 9: So it was COVID time. First of all, I didn't
16:18
Speaker 9: want to initially play in CBLEA initially, so I was
16:22
Speaker 9: recruited by American college coaches in twenty nineteen, which was
16:27
Speaker 9: a Under eighteen European Championship. I played for national team
16:32
Speaker 9: there for Russia, so got recruited there, but I never
16:36
Speaker 9: kind of like opened up my recruitment, like I wasn't
16:39
Speaker 9: like accepting any offers, like it's not my destiny. I
16:44
Speaker 9: thought to playing in Cuba, like I'm not planning on
16:48
Speaker 9: doing so, and kind of forget about it, so they
16:51
Speaker 9: kind of get off of me. Then fast forward a year,
16:56
Speaker 9: I stopped playing closer to the end of the year,
16:58
Speaker 9: so like I'm trying to explore my options for my
17:01
Speaker 9: future what was best for me, and ended up thinking
17:05
Speaker 9: about in Cuba, like all right, let's see, let's see
17:07
Speaker 9: what teams still want to talk to me. Coach me
17:10
Speaker 9: offered me a scholarship, and it wasn't as much as
17:13
Speaker 9: it was in summer because I was literally going to commit.
17:17
Speaker 9: So I reopened my recruitment in February to commit in June.
17:21
Speaker 9: So it's like what three four five months, yeah, so's yeah,
17:25
Speaker 9: and a lot of rosters, as you guys know, like
17:27
Speaker 9: getting filled like a year before, guys, two years before
17:30
Speaker 9: getting committed signed, so not a lot of teams were
17:33
Speaker 9: still left on the table. But then one that was
17:37
Speaker 9: like kind of always reaching out to me even when
17:39
Speaker 9: I I said I'm not going to CIL was Cincinnati
17:42
Speaker 9: and the coach Shandwar who recruited me, who's in Leyolla
17:46
Speaker 9: right now, a great friend of mine. Still talk to
17:49
Speaker 9: him really wish is me the best as as he
17:53
Speaker 9: was at the beginning of his recruitment to me. So
17:58
Speaker 9: committed Cincinnati and then and that's where all started. So
18:02
Speaker 9: COVID hit, as you guys know too. So it's like
18:04
Speaker 9: that February March, everything shuts down. So I decided that
18:08
Speaker 9: I need to ambassy. We're closing. We're all closing in Russia,
18:13
Speaker 9: so I need to leave the country to just get
18:15
Speaker 9: an appointment, not even get approved, but get an appointment
18:18
Speaker 9: and go somewhere.
18:20
Speaker 2: We ended up.
18:22
Speaker 9: Schedule apployment in Ukraine, Kiev, and because of our tid relationship,
18:28
Speaker 9: even back then, there was no direct flight, so I
18:30
Speaker 9: had to go around. First time. I think I went
18:33
Speaker 9: through Austria Vann or however you say their capital. I think,
18:38
Speaker 9: so I went through there. I get in a flu there.
18:42
Speaker 9: Airports were like empty. I literally have y yeah, only
18:47
Speaker 9: have a backpack. Literally was my documents and like change clothes,
18:52
Speaker 9: get to Kiev and they sent me back. They interurrogaate
18:55
Speaker 9: me for like thirty minutes kind of that. Yeah, it
18:58
Speaker 9: was like crass. They get like footprints for like gone
19:01
Speaker 9: in case of violence and stuff like that. Yeah, it
19:03
Speaker 9: was like stuff. They're like checking my money bank accounts
19:06
Speaker 9: kind of like I felt like like a real Russian's
19:09
Speaker 9: file like they talk about yeah, like damn, but yeah
19:14
Speaker 9: they do that. And then they said no, we won't,
19:16
Speaker 9: we won't let you in. So I was like Jesus,
19:18
Speaker 9: like really all that just for nothing, like paid tickets
19:21
Speaker 9: and everything. So by that time, I think it was
19:24
Speaker 9: like nine pm, and I'm shorting story a lot. It
19:27
Speaker 9: was nine pm, so I think they bought me a
19:29
Speaker 9: fly back to Belarus, I think, which is another country
19:32
Speaker 9: because as I said, there's no direct flights. Even though
19:34
Speaker 9: it's like one hour flight, I still have to go
19:36
Speaker 9: around go to Belarus. After like sevenars, like not being
19:44
Speaker 9: able to sleep, trying to explain to Cincinnati coach is
19:46
Speaker 9: what happened? Why I'm not there?
19:48
Speaker 1: Why?
19:48
Speaker 9: Like yeah, I mean it was, yeah, what's going on?
19:52
Speaker 9: And I'm like literally laying down in the chairs. Backpack
19:56
Speaker 9: is my pillow and I'm like tearing up, not gonna lie.
19:58
Speaker 9: I have a picture of that kind of Yeah, it
20:02
Speaker 9: was hard anyway. So I get to billy Rus, get
20:05
Speaker 9: on the bus, get home to Moscow, try number two,
20:15
Speaker 9: same thing, but I'm going through billy Rous on the bus.
20:18
Speaker 9: Then it was a lot of crazy stuff going on
20:20
Speaker 9: that side of the planet. So I think it was
20:23
Speaker 9: somewhat of like a revolution or something. People population weren't
20:27
Speaker 9: happy it was who was elected as a president bellar Us.
20:30
Speaker 9: So it was really hard to get in a country,
20:31
Speaker 9: but I had to fly through there. So we did
20:36
Speaker 9: some documents for me that I'm going to the like
20:40
Speaker 9: a hospital to get some treatment or something like that
20:42
Speaker 9: to get in the country. But I'm just trying to
20:44
Speaker 9: get an airport and get out of here to go
20:46
Speaker 9: to Rekraine for the for the appointment, my visa appointment.
20:50
Speaker 3: So we do that, all of this just for an appointment.
20:53
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't even know if I'm going to get
20:55
Speaker 9: approved or not. And so I get on a border.
20:59
Speaker 9: I was dropped me off the bus as everybody pretty
21:02
Speaker 9: much all blur Ussian people were going there. So they
21:05
Speaker 9: get me off the bus. They checked my documents just
21:07
Speaker 9: like three am, so I wait till like eight am,
21:10
Speaker 9: till kind of people wake up, and I print all
21:14
Speaker 9: the documents right there on the border. I have a backpack,
21:18
Speaker 9: same same kind of equipment, and I literally walk the
21:22
Speaker 9: border probably like a mile or two when car passing
21:24
Speaker 9: by a force to my right. It's crazy. I'm calling
21:27
Speaker 9: my dad on the video. He seems like here he
21:30
Speaker 9: was probably getting happy. I was like, he that boy
21:32
Speaker 9: is not getting not getting his visa. Try and just
21:36
Speaker 9: give up anyway. So I passed the border there, get
21:39
Speaker 9: a cap, go to airport and fly to Ukraine, and uh,
21:43
Speaker 9: those border guards let him in.
21:46
Speaker 3: He time.
21:50
Speaker 9: Yeah, and obviously the Cincinnati made a call to the
21:56
Speaker 9: Senator and he made him made sure that I was
21:59
Speaker 9: letting the city second time. So I get in. It's
22:03
Speaker 9: like I don't know nothing. Literally get whatever hotel I
22:07
Speaker 9: can get at The appointment was the next day I
22:11
Speaker 9: walked there, I mean the just measureable experience. And the
22:13
Speaker 9: end of the day I get approved. I get my
22:15
Speaker 9: VSA in a couple of days later, I fly to
22:17
Speaker 9: New York and it was relieved. But then I go
22:22
Speaker 9: back to back quarantines for like two weeks. So kind
22:26
Speaker 9: of continued, but yeah, that's like a short version of
22:29
Speaker 9: what happened.
22:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, long journey.
22:30
Speaker 3: Was that your first time in the United States?
22:32
Speaker 9: See Yeah, yeah for New York, first time actually leaving
22:36
Speaker 9: outside of Russia. I've been. I was abroad for like
22:38
Speaker 9: a week or two for tournaments, but yeah, leaving and
22:41
Speaker 9: it's crazy. It hit you pretty hard when you I
22:44
Speaker 9: woke up and quarantinue a hotel and I hear good
22:47
Speaker 9: morning instead of like dobra uta, which is like a
22:50
Speaker 9: Russian thing, and I was like, oh, I'm really in
22:52
Speaker 9: a different country. Now I have to like I don't
22:54
Speaker 9: have nobody to speak to my language. Kind of like
22:58
Speaker 9: depressing period. To be honest, It's like when you realize
23:01
Speaker 9: that you're away from your friends, though you can talk
23:03
Speaker 9: to is like through the phone. So but at the
23:06
Speaker 9: end of the day, you kind of adjust to it,
23:09
Speaker 9: like I said, uh, and get stronger from from from
23:12
Speaker 9: those challenges. Yeah.
23:17
Speaker 10: So I started posting videos at Hartford before COVID hit,
23:21
Speaker 10: and then I went home and made a bunch of
23:22
Speaker 10: videos with my parents. My mom people recognized her for
23:26
Speaker 10: a moment more than they recognized me, which I was like,
23:28
Speaker 10: all right, Mom, make your own TikTok, like make your
23:30
Speaker 10: own thing. This is my thing now. No, but yeah,
23:34
Speaker 10: just started posting videos about baseball, about life, and I
23:37
Speaker 10: realized pretty quickly, like my baseball career is going to
23:39
Speaker 10: end soon. So at that point I thought it was
23:42
Speaker 10: so I was like, all right, I need to make
23:42
Speaker 10: more lifestyle content. I love The Greater Showman, I love musicals,
23:45
Speaker 10: I love Taylor Swift, I love all of these food,
23:48
Speaker 10: all these different things. So I started making videos about
23:50
Speaker 10: the other stuff. And now it's become my character with
23:53
Speaker 10: the bananas.
23:53
Speaker 3: Yeah.
23:54
Speaker 10: So I didn't start doing that, and I was just
23:55
Speaker 10: posting like my highlights, which no one cares about, by
23:58
Speaker 10: the way, like no one cares about your highlight at all.
24:01
Speaker 10: You have to give people a reason to care. So
24:03
Speaker 10: what I started doing is I started making those stories,
24:06
Speaker 10: like a story about my life. I'll post a story
24:08
Speaker 10: about my life and how my dad helped me through
24:10
Speaker 10: when I was like, I do a lot of like
24:12
Speaker 10: when I was ten, fifteen, twenty and twenty five. That's
24:14
Speaker 10: how I like split up stories. And then the next
24:18
Speaker 10: video I'll post is like me making a play or
24:20
Speaker 10: hitting a home run. So I made people care about
24:23
Speaker 10: my story and now they care about the cool play
24:26
Speaker 10: or the home run or whatever. And that's how I've
24:28
Speaker 10: kind of built the I don't want to say like
24:30
Speaker 10: Hannah Montana type thing, but like best of both worlds, right,
24:34
Speaker 10: all right, I'm the social media kid, but I can
24:36
Speaker 10: also play baseball. So like combining those two and now
24:39
Speaker 10: we see a lot more people coming into the Banana's
24:40
Speaker 10: coach rack Yea Tanner Thomas, like those guys are the
24:43
Speaker 10: same character where it's like they're the social media guy,
24:46
Speaker 10: but also they can play baseball and you have to
24:48
Speaker 10: make people care about the first part.
24:50
Speaker 1: How do you think you learned that lesson? Like what
24:52
Speaker 1: was the light bulb of like, ooh, I need to
24:55
Speaker 1: Hannah Montana a little bit.
24:58
Speaker 5: I don't know.
24:58
Speaker 10: I think it was through just posting videos, Like I
25:01
Speaker 10: was posting and posting and posting it, all right, what
25:03
Speaker 10: is this leading to? Is this leading to something? Or
25:05
Speaker 10: am I just doing this for fun? And then a
25:08
Speaker 10: couple of brands started reaching out and they were like, hey,
25:10
Speaker 10: we want to work with you, And they were small
25:11
Speaker 10: at first, and now they've gotten to the point where
25:13
Speaker 10: I'm like, I could quit Bananas right now and be
25:16
Speaker 10: fine and be doing this. So now I'm like, Okay,
25:18
Speaker 10: baseball's going to end. I need to have the dual personality.
25:21
Speaker 10: If I don't have it, I could be released. They
25:23
Speaker 10: could say Jackson, you're not good anymore. See you next year.
25:26
Speaker 10: But if that happens, I have my phone in my
25:28
Speaker 10: hand boom.
25:30
Speaker 3: Do you have like a strategy to your videos that
25:32
Speaker 3: you make or is it just like I'm going to
25:34
Speaker 3: post like whatever I feel.
25:35
Speaker 10: Yeah, basically I think about like who's watching it on
25:38
Speaker 10: the other.
25:38
Speaker 11: Side almost like but it's almost I'm picturing myself watching
25:43
Speaker 11: my own video as a follower, so like I'm like,
25:46
Speaker 11: what I think this is funny or like quirky.
25:49
Speaker 10: I don't know. A lot of it is very like
25:51
Speaker 10: a lot of what I do is the words on
25:53
Speaker 10: the screen matter so much. The way you say it,
25:55
Speaker 10: the way they have to fit in three lines. They
25:57
Speaker 10: don't fit in three lines. No one's watching it right,
26:00
Speaker 10: first five seconds have to be like ooh, like what's that?
26:03
Speaker 10: Last last part has to make you watch it again?
26:05
Speaker 10: Like right, it's basically those three things.
26:07
Speaker 3: Gotcha?
26:08
Speaker 4: Do you have any like advice like Nils getting big
26:11
Speaker 4: for us and you know we're not really influencers are
26:15
Speaker 4: very big on social media, but like anything that you
26:17
Speaker 4: would tell, like any.
26:18
Speaker 3: Advice of building your personal brand, because in this world
26:22
Speaker 3: now that we're in with college athletics and nil, it's
26:24
Speaker 3: getting crazy and you have to have a brand to
26:27
Speaker 3: get paid.
26:28
Speaker 10: Well, I look at it like like a live dune
26:29
Speaker 10: for example, Like obviously she's the top of the top
26:31
Speaker 10: for athletes and she just retired, but she's the top,
26:34
Speaker 10: And I look at the only reason she's the top. Yeah,
26:36
Speaker 10: she's a great gymnast, but she posts the videos that
26:40
Speaker 10: like people want to watch and they're like, oh, okay,
26:42
Speaker 10: this is interesting and I know Lsu, I know, yeah,
26:46
Speaker 10: but yeah she likes it. But just as an example
26:50
Speaker 10: for people to look at, Like like I said before,
26:53
Speaker 10: like I was posting my story into a clip or
26:56
Speaker 10: a highlight, her videos of her doing gymnastics would not
26:59
Speaker 10: do well if she wasn't showing who she was before that, right,
27:02
Speaker 10: And so like anyone can post a clip, but that's
27:05
Speaker 10: my advice. Tell your story, then post what you do
27:09
Speaker 10: on the field on the core. So it's about your
27:11
Speaker 10: story first, about like it could be. It doesn't even
27:14
Speaker 10: have to be like a long like this is my story,
27:16
Speaker 10: it's just who are you outside of the sport, then
27:19
Speaker 10: show your sport.
27:20
Speaker 1: I love that. So yeah, especially when you think about
27:23
Speaker 1: being an athlete in your identity is your sport, but
27:26
Speaker 1: you're saying you're more than that, and that's actually what
27:29
Speaker 1: people want to see and consume. And I think that's
27:32
Speaker 1: a really powerful message too, that you really are selling
27:34
Speaker 1: who you.
27:35
Speaker 2: Are as a person.
27:35
Speaker 1: And the highlights are cool and you can work those
27:37
Speaker 1: in two, but your sport is just part of it.
27:39
Speaker 2: Not the whole thing.
27:44
Speaker 8: I was the F sixteen manufacturing intern for locked Martin
27:48
Speaker 8: up in Greenville, so I worked in the F sixteen plant,
27:51
Speaker 8: which is a fighter jet, and it was about the
27:55
Speaker 8: coolest saying that I think I have ever done, because
27:58
Speaker 8: day one in there, we were on the just the
28:01
Speaker 8: manufacturing product floor of the F sixteen's.
28:04
Speaker 5: Got to see.
28:05
Speaker 8: Them up at the Donaldson Airport. Their process there is
28:12
Speaker 8: completing the whole jet, right, so the only way that
28:15
Speaker 8: the plane leaves like that's the end step.
28:18
Speaker 5: So you honestly can hear them fly out sometimes.
28:20
Speaker 3: I remember we were at practice one time or something
28:23
Speaker 3: and I heard the thing and you were like, oh,
28:24
Speaker 3: that's an F sixteen, or like yeah, that's a fighter jet.
28:26
Speaker 3: Or something, so you can how do you know that.
28:28
Speaker 8: You can see them sometimes when they leave and when
28:33
Speaker 8: they finished building them.
28:34
Speaker 5: And so I felt like.
28:37
Speaker 8: The best way I explained it to other people is like,
28:39
Speaker 8: just you're like building Legos, So just really really big legos,
28:44
Speaker 8: really important Legos about the same tolerance is actually fun
28:47
Speaker 8: fact that Lego has some really high.
28:49
Speaker 5: Tolerances, which is so interesting.
28:51
Speaker 8: It's why you can build You can use Lego parts
28:53
Speaker 8: from like twenty years ago on Lego pieces today because
28:57
Speaker 8: of the tolerances.
28:58
Speaker 2: So yeah, he goes sixty Yeah.
29:00
Speaker 8: Exactly, same thing or insane thing. So man, it was cool,
29:05
Speaker 8: Like I loved I love planes. I just love him
29:08
Speaker 8: because it's like, man, like what a way to connect people,
29:10
Speaker 8: and like to connect people that live just so many
29:14
Speaker 8: miles apart, thousands of miles apart, and you can connect
29:17
Speaker 8: them with just a flight over. You can protect people
29:19
Speaker 8: with them, you can ship things with them.
29:23
Speaker 4: You know.
29:23
Speaker 5: I love when my Amazon packages come in really.
29:25
Speaker 8: Quick, and just love like just the way that they
29:29
Speaker 8: connect people and connect things and just you know, I
29:32
Speaker 8: feel like there's there's a lot of goodness in that
29:35
Speaker 8: when you use it the right way. And so yeah,
29:39
Speaker 8: it was super cool, just being able to spend all
29:41
Speaker 8: day and just completely nerd out on F six scenes
29:46
Speaker 8: and just love them. Got to got to sit in
29:48
Speaker 8: a few of them and just figure it out.
29:51
Speaker 3: There were special boots, you had to wear, a special
29:53
Speaker 3: gear you.
29:54
Speaker 8: Had to Yeah, so not necessarily boots, but I did
29:57
Speaker 8: have to go shopping because you know, there's the there's
30:00
Speaker 8: business casual, and there's engineering business casual. So when you're
30:03
Speaker 8: working on a manufacturing floor one, there's like fraud protection,
30:07
Speaker 8: which is like for an object damage debris. So on
30:10
Speaker 8: any flight line that you're on, whether it's manufacturing, whether
30:14
Speaker 8: it's like in the military where there it's like at
30:16
Speaker 8: an airport.
30:18
Speaker 5: You can't have anything on you.
30:19
Speaker 8: So you can't have like jewelry, you can't have anything
30:22
Speaker 8: that could fall in the aircraft. So we had like
30:27
Speaker 8: you know, like the attire. I guess the dress code.
30:30
Speaker 8: But I think what you're probably thinking.
30:33
Speaker 3: Of is.
30:36
Speaker 8: I went out and got had to go shopping for
30:39
Speaker 8: some like manufacturing pants because I originally was like, oh,
30:42
Speaker 8: business casual was a dress code. So I'm buying like
30:45
Speaker 8: nice business casual.
30:46
Speaker 5: You know, I want to dress the part.
30:48
Speaker 1: Well.
30:48
Speaker 8: Day one, I'm in the manufacturing shop floor, and I'm like, oo,
30:51
Speaker 8: if I'm wearing the wrong.
30:52
Speaker 5: Shoes, so I'm wearing the wrong pants.
30:54
Speaker 8: So I had to go out and go find some
30:58
Speaker 8: like manufacturing workway and yeah, and the only thing that
31:04
Speaker 8: I could share about my internship was my outfits before
31:08
Speaker 8: I got there, because you can't take any pictures. I
31:10
Speaker 8: ended up getting interim like government security clearance for it,
31:13
Speaker 8: so I would share you probably knows this.
31:16
Speaker 5: I would share my coffee of the day and my
31:20
Speaker 5: outfit of.
31:20
Speaker 3: The day, so i'd give that would looking forward to
31:23
Speaker 3: those outfits.
31:24
Speaker 5: And it was at four am every.
31:25
Speaker 8: Morning, so every time crazy long days, yes, because at
31:28
Speaker 8: that time the internship was so late that it was
31:31
Speaker 8: also taking classes. Yeah, so my day in training, yes,
31:36
Speaker 8: and training was my day was insane. I would wake
31:39
Speaker 8: up at about four four thirty, would leave at five,
31:45
Speaker 8: get to work at six.
31:46
Speaker 5: You work ten hours.
31:49
Speaker 3: This is in the summer, right in the summer.
31:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And so I'd be done at four thirty.
31:53
Speaker 8: Then I would text my coaches, hey, I'm on my
31:56
Speaker 8: way to practice.
31:57
Speaker 5: It was an hour back.
31:58
Speaker 8: And would train from probably like six to seven thirty,
32:02
Speaker 8: and then I would go home. I log on my
32:04
Speaker 8: school and then now I would make sure the one thing,
32:07
Speaker 8: the only way I was able to do this, I
32:09
Speaker 8: had to be in bed at eight thirty.
32:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did not do much else that entire summer.
32:13
Speaker 8: I did have Fridays off, so I got most of
32:14
Speaker 8: my school work done then, and then all the weekends
32:16
Speaker 8: and still like had a little bit of time for
32:18
Speaker 8: some fun out on the lake or the beach or something.
32:21
Speaker 8: But I'm gonna be honest, I did not do much
32:23
Speaker 8: that entire summer besides just work. But it was such
32:26
Speaker 8: a cool experience. I learned a lot about engineering. I
32:29
Speaker 8: learned a lot about just like technical problem solving. I
32:32
Speaker 8: learned a lot about like how do I apply my
32:35
Speaker 8: academics into the real world?
32:37
Speaker 5: What are the things that I love?
32:39
Speaker 8: Found out I loved manufacturing, and I just love like
32:41
Speaker 8: the whole process of like the product or the idea
32:43
Speaker 8: of like building legos.
32:46
Speaker 5: And also it was just like cool.
32:47
Speaker 7: Yeah.
32:47
Speaker 8: People would be like, oh, what'd you do this summer?
32:49
Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, I just worked one at sixteen.
32:51
Speaker 3: It's like, were you only one of how many interns there?
32:58
Speaker 8: I'm not actually sure. I know I worked with like
33:01
Speaker 8: a group of interns. A lot of they had in
33:04
Speaker 8: an engineering typical engineering manufacturing plant, you have production engineers,
33:08
Speaker 8: you have industrial engineers, manufacturing engineer, system engineers, tooling engineers,
33:13
Speaker 8: lots of different types of engineers. I get a manufacturing
33:15
Speaker 8: plant running, so we probably had a few of F
33:19
Speaker 8: sixteen manufacturing interns, and then it's also broken down, I guess,
33:24
Speaker 8: just like into sub sections. It's a typical manufacturing plant,
33:27
Speaker 8: so you're not engineering the whole thing. And so yeah,
33:32
Speaker 8: there's like a couple of different people that I worked with,
33:34
Speaker 8: one of the only girls, which kind of has just
33:38
Speaker 8: been a natural aspect of mechanical engineering.
33:41
Speaker 5: And women in STEM.
33:43
Speaker 8: Yeah, women in STEM for sure. There have been some
33:46
Speaker 8: parts where I'm like, wow, like so inspired to be
33:49
Speaker 8: a woman in STEM. Another part tere I'm like, man, fuck, okay,
33:52
Speaker 8: can we figure this out please?
33:55
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's cool.
33:58
Speaker 1: What do you think you want to do in gymnastics?
34:00
Speaker 3: Over I see planes in Lily's future.
34:05
Speaker 8: Absolutely planes in my future. I think that I would
34:10
Speaker 8: be happy anywhere around planes. It's gonna be a long story,
34:14
Speaker 8: but I love manufacturing, so I think I would be
34:17
Speaker 8: really excited to anything in manufacturing.
34:20
Speaker 5: However, just feeling a.
34:22
Speaker 8: Little bit of the call to join the military, and
34:27
Speaker 8: I know that you guys have like known a bit
34:30
Speaker 8: about it, and it's been a long process. But just
34:35
Speaker 8: long story short, and we can dive into it if
34:37
Speaker 8: you want to, but just overview, I've got the chance
34:43
Speaker 8: to fly. I've got the desire to fly, and just
34:48
Speaker 8: kind of the desire felt the Lord's calling to to,
34:51
Speaker 8: you know, apply because to be an officer in the military,
34:55
Speaker 8: you have to apply. It's different than enlisting, and I'm
34:59
Speaker 8: in that process right now. All I know is I've
35:03
Speaker 8: been called to apply. I'm not sure if I'm gonna
35:06
Speaker 8: make it all the way through. I have learned so
35:08
Speaker 8: much through the application period.
35:11
Speaker 5: But man, I would love to.
35:14
Speaker 8: In a year come back and be able to say
35:18
Speaker 8: that I did it, that I was able to get qualified,
35:21
Speaker 8: I was able to suman application.
35:23
Speaker 5: Because it's been a long time.
35:26
Speaker 8: That I've heard a lot of nos, just with different things,
35:29
Speaker 8: one of them being like my shoulder. But we've got
35:31
Speaker 8: it fixed now. So man, just being patient with it.
35:35
Speaker 8: But you know, if it's something that I set my
35:38
Speaker 8: heart on now and I hear know, you know, you
35:41
Speaker 8: learn from it, learned a lot from this experience, and
35:44
Speaker 8: you know.
35:44
Speaker 5: You keep going.
35:45
Speaker 8: But man, I would love to be a military officer
35:48
Speaker 8: in the United States Marine Corps.
35:50
Speaker 3: So yeah, I see it in your future.
35:57
Speaker 4: How has being with coach Sweeney kind of impacted you already?
36:01
Speaker 2: And how have you seen how comes in football? Just
36:04
Speaker 2: the environment and self impact.
36:06
Speaker 12: Deal with coach Wheney is like I can't even like
36:11
Speaker 12: explain it. When I first seen him, because I knew
36:13
Speaker 12: who coach Swinny was before I got here, and when
36:15
Speaker 12: he when the first time I talked to him was
36:19
Speaker 12: when I was in a portal, you know, I think
36:20
Speaker 12: it was December, and he called me he facetimedy, and
36:24
Speaker 12: I'm like, I don't know who this number is because
36:26
Speaker 12: I put my number on my Twitter, so I'll be
36:28
Speaker 12: get a lot of calls from like a lot of
36:29
Speaker 12: random people. So I led it like ring to like
36:32
Speaker 12: the last ring, and I picked up and I had
36:34
Speaker 12: the phone kind of tilted like I don't want to
36:37
Speaker 12: I don't know who this is. So I look and
36:39
Speaker 12: its Coach Whinny just smiled like this. My heart dropped.
36:42
Speaker 12: I said, oh my god. But everything he said was
36:45
Speaker 12: so inspirational and just listening to him as a man,
36:47
Speaker 12: because I don't think we didn't talk about football for real.
36:50
Speaker 12: On that phone call, it was really just about life,
36:52
Speaker 12: you know, outside of football, life before football. Oh you know,
36:56
Speaker 12: how he grew up and how I grew up. So
36:57
Speaker 12: it was really similar. We had really really so stories.
37:01
Speaker 12: So really just coach Winny, Like every time he in
37:03
Speaker 12: a meeting he come in, it's music playing, he dancing,
37:07
Speaker 12: everybody clapping. It's like I just be watching like this
37:09
Speaker 12: is like so inspirational because this is somebody I grew
37:12
Speaker 12: up you know, watching on TV, and it's like, now
37:14
Speaker 12: he's my coach. And he has a lot of quotes,
37:17
Speaker 12: you know a lot of things. And I listen to
37:19
Speaker 12: the quotes. I'm like, yeah, that's that's a good quote.
37:24
Speaker 3: Which one is your favorite?
37:25
Speaker 12: As a man, think of so is He? That he
37:27
Speaker 12: says that a lot, and that really means really just
37:29
Speaker 12: like how you think and how your mindset is is
37:31
Speaker 12: you know, that's it's gonna take you however far you
37:34
Speaker 12: want to go. So really, just as a man, think
37:36
Speaker 12: of so is He. And I got that down on
37:38
Speaker 12: a board at my house in my room, so really
37:40
Speaker 12: just look at it every day and I think about it,
37:42
Speaker 12: like yeah, yeah, this is really true. So that coach
37:46
Speaker 12: Wingie is a great coach really just the coature he has,
37:49
Speaker 12: you know, brought to this program. I love everything about him.
37:52
Speaker 2: Right.
37:53
Speaker 3: I feel like Dabo has described you as like a
37:55
Speaker 3: happy guy and always joyous. Where does that joy come from?
38:00
Speaker 1: Just?
38:00
Speaker 12: You know, it's been some ups and downs in my life,
38:03
Speaker 12: a lot of ups and downs, you know, a roller coasre.
38:05
Speaker 12: So really just you know, I like to be positive
38:09
Speaker 12: all the time every day. You know, Like I might
38:12
Speaker 12: wake up and be like, man, I know, I feel
38:15
Speaker 12: like something's bad gonna happen to there, But I don't
38:16
Speaker 12: do that. You know, something bad might happen, Like the
38:18
Speaker 12: other day I lost my car keys. I had to
38:20
Speaker 12: pay you know to get another car keys, and I'm
38:22
Speaker 12: like I should be probably be mad about this, but
38:24
Speaker 12: now I'm not mad about this. I just wake up
38:26
Speaker 12: and just go by my day and be happy. I mean,
38:28
Speaker 12: the opportunity that I have been given to come here
38:30
Speaker 12: is like like once in a lifetime. And that's what
38:33
Speaker 12: Coach Wheney said it in the me that he asked
38:34
Speaker 12: me in front of everybody. He was like, do many
38:37
Speaker 12: people that Semo get this opportunity. I'm like, I'm thinking,
38:39
Speaker 12: like no, I'm the only one. So Really, it's really
38:42
Speaker 12: nothing to be mad about.
38:43
Speaker 1: You know.
38:44
Speaker 12: I go to Clemson, and that's been my dream ever
38:46
Speaker 12: since I started playing football, you know, just to go
38:48
Speaker 12: to a power file school, you know, a big time program. Man,
38:52
Speaker 12: I've achieved that, so there's no reason to you know,
38:55
Speaker 12: dwell on being mad or you know, sad and stuff
38:58
Speaker 12: like that. And another reason really why I'm just happy
39:00
Speaker 12: is because you never know what somebody's thinking, like, you know,
39:03
Speaker 12: really like will It's just like when I go to class,
39:06
Speaker 12: I'm walking past people, you never know what that person's thinking.
39:09
Speaker 12: So I'm not gonna lie. When I see people, I
39:11
Speaker 12: say hate to them, like random people, like I just
39:13
Speaker 12: say hate to them because it might make their day.
39:15
Speaker 12: And really just like it's a lot of mental health
39:17
Speaker 12: going on in today's world, so you know, and I
39:19
Speaker 12: don't like that. I don't like that. So really, just
39:22
Speaker 12: if I can make somebody day, you know, by being
39:24
Speaker 12: a Clemson football player, just by saying what's up to them,
39:26
Speaker 12: I'm going to do that. So that that that, you know,
39:29
Speaker 12: makes me want to you know, wake up and go
39:31
Speaker 12: to class every day.
39:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm always having That's such a.
39:34
Speaker 12: Great every day every day, Like every time I lead
39:38
Speaker 12: a facility, I say some to somebody, somebody, and how
39:41
Speaker 12: you doing, have a great day every day? And so
39:43
Speaker 12: I don't leave without, you know, giving somebody a hug
39:45
Speaker 12: every day.
39:46
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's important. I think like coming from a
39:49
Speaker 3: lower level school, like you understand how blessed you are
39:52
Speaker 3: to be like at Clemson and all of the resources
39:55
Speaker 3: academically and athletically that we do have. Like seeing that
39:58
Speaker 3: is such a stark difference, and so I think that's
40:02
Speaker 3: that's enough to have, like, oh my gosh, like I'm here,
40:04
Speaker 3: you know, attitude every day.
40:06
Speaker 12: So I still can't believe it, Like I wake up,
40:08
Speaker 12: like I go to Clemson, Oh my god, every day,
40:12
Speaker 12: it's been really fun being here.
40:14
Speaker 4: That's great to have a teammate too. I know, like
40:16
Speaker 4: if I had a teammate like that every day, like
40:18
Speaker 4: that would just totally inspire me. And I want to
40:20
Speaker 4: be a better person as well.
40:22
Speaker 12: So every day every day, And I'm not I'm not
40:25
Speaker 12: the type of teammate. I'm going to tell you the truth,
40:27
Speaker 12: Like I'm gonna tell you what you need to work on,
40:28
Speaker 12: and I expect you to do the same with me.
40:30
Speaker 12: I'm not going to be you know, the teammate that's
40:32
Speaker 12: going to congratulate you on everything you do, like especially
40:35
Speaker 12: when it's aspects of your game. I know you can
40:37
Speaker 12: be way better at to get you to where you
40:39
Speaker 12: need to be. I'm going to you know, find those
40:41
Speaker 12: you know, weaknesses for that player and try to help
40:44
Speaker 12: them and they do the same for me. So it's
40:46
Speaker 12: really that's that's what we prod ourselves on in the
40:48
Speaker 12: receiver room. Really just hold each other accountable.
40:51
Speaker 3: We heard you have like a great relationship with TJ
40:53
Speaker 3: Moore and that you guys watch film every day. What's
40:56
Speaker 3: that look like for you?
40:58
Speaker 1: TJ? Man?
40:59
Speaker 12: I love TJ and really just you know, ever since
41:02
Speaker 12: I came to my visit, he was the you know,
41:04
Speaker 12: the main person I was talking to and I connected
41:07
Speaker 12: with him. You know, he was a great person, you know,
41:09
Speaker 12: young guy, great receiver. You know, he's from Florida. He's
41:11
Speaker 12: a Florida boy, so and that's right next to Georgia.
41:14
Speaker 12: So I really understood, you know, the way he spoke
41:16
Speaker 12: to me and stuff. And after I committed, you know,
41:19
Speaker 12: I was the first, he was the first person I
41:20
Speaker 12: told I committed, And when I was in Missouri, I
41:23
Speaker 12: was keeping in contact with him. You know, throughout my
41:25
Speaker 12: journey from going to Missouri to Clemson and every ever
41:28
Speaker 12: since I got here, you know, just been with him
41:30
Speaker 12: a lot, spent a lot of time with him, you know,
41:33
Speaker 12: be at his house a lot. We watched film, you know,
41:34
Speaker 12: because I have a problem going over the plays, you know,
41:36
Speaker 12: and learning to play. So he really has helped me
41:39
Speaker 12: with the plays and stuff because he'd been through the
41:41
Speaker 12: same thing. And you know, he had a great, great
41:44
Speaker 12: season last year. So I asked him. I was like, hey,
41:46
Speaker 12: how you get the playbook in such a short period
41:48
Speaker 12: of time. So and he just really been helping me
41:51
Speaker 12: with that. We went to spring break together, went to Florida,
41:54
Speaker 12: so really just spending time, you know, you get that
41:56
Speaker 12: natural bond, you know, just by spending time with somebody,
41:59
Speaker 12: you know, just every day in and I really, you know,
42:01
Speaker 12: I appreciate him, you know, for you know, welcome me
42:04
Speaker 12: into the receiver room and really just to clinch.
42:06
Speaker 1: And so.
42:11
Speaker 6: I already liked social media, but I had never thought like, oh,
42:13
Speaker 6: I can just make my own page.
42:15
Speaker 2: So he was kind of.
42:16
Speaker 6: Pushing me to do it, and I was like, no,
42:18
Speaker 6: like I don't really want to. I at this point
42:20
Speaker 6: hate gymnastics. I want nothing to do with it, but
42:23
Speaker 6: I did want to grow my resume, and I was like, well,
42:26
Speaker 6: the only sport I would know how to post would
42:27
Speaker 6: be gymnastics. So I don't know what came over me.
42:31
Speaker 6: After the doctors appointment, I was like, fine, I'll do it.
42:33
Speaker 6: It was actually called gim.
42:35
Speaker 2: World one oh one, oh gosh.
42:37
Speaker 5: He was like, please change that GM world on it.
42:41
Speaker 3: That doesn't roll off the time.
42:42
Speaker 6: No, no, it doesn't. I'm glad that he came up
42:45
Speaker 6: with a better name for that. But yeah, as Eva
42:49
Speaker 6: was saying, the gym turnut can be a very good
42:52
Speaker 6: place but also very negative, and seeing the effects that
42:55
Speaker 6: the sport had had on me, I really wanted to
42:57
Speaker 6: change that one. There was already not a platform that
43:02
Speaker 6: gave news and highlighted at a level comparable to the
43:06
Speaker 6: NFL or ESPN or something like that. But I also
43:10
Speaker 6: wanted to make sure that I was just highlighting athletes
43:11
Speaker 6: that usually wouldn't be seen, especially in gymnastics. It's growing,
43:16
Speaker 6: but small and coverage isn't At the time wasn't as
43:20
Speaker 6: great as it has been in the past two years.
43:23
Speaker 6: So I wanted to highlight people, not just at the
43:25
Speaker 6: top of their college career, but also girls that are
43:29
Speaker 6: just getting their kip at level four, for people that
43:33
Speaker 6: may not make it to college but they just did
43:36
Speaker 6: something really great in level eight. But then also all
43:38
Speaker 6: the college athletes that from Clemson who had their inaugural
43:42
Speaker 6: season to Oklahoma. I just wanted to highlight a ton
43:46
Speaker 6: of different people and showcase what they were doing. But
43:49
Speaker 6: I was embarrassed. I didn't want people to know is me.
43:52
Speaker 6: So I promised myself. I was like, Okay, if one
43:55
Speaker 6: day I hit one hundred thousand followers, I will let
43:57
Speaker 6: people know that it was me posting.
44:00
Speaker 3: No one knew it was you.
44:01
Speaker 6: No, I didn't want to tell anyone, Okay, yeah why I.
44:03
Speaker 2: Was too scared? Yeah why were you scared?
44:07
Speaker 3: The whole like.
44:09
Speaker 6: There there wasn't a page like this, and I didn't
44:12
Speaker 6: want it to come off as like I was gymnastics obsessed,
44:17
Speaker 6: but in.
44:18
Speaker 2: Like a why I don't know.
44:21
Speaker 6: I didn't like gymnastics now, I didn't like it, and
44:24
Speaker 6: also like I didn't want people to get the wrong
44:27
Speaker 6: impression of it. I don't know what that impression could
44:29
Speaker 6: have been, but starting anything new is scary, and I
44:33
Speaker 6: didn't want people to judge me. I was scared of
44:36
Speaker 6: what the response would be, so being able to not
44:39
Speaker 6: tell anyone was great until I hit one hundred thousand
44:42
Speaker 6: followers in two and a half months.
44:43
Speaker 2: And then had to tell you, Like, oh man, But
44:47
Speaker 2: the reaction was great.
44:48
Speaker 6: When people realized that it was a gymnast behind the page,
44:52
Speaker 6: they really connected to that and they're like, Okay, this
44:55
Speaker 6: is by a gymnast for other gymnasts, and they really
44:58
Speaker 6: liked that. And I tried to keep the captions and
45:01
Speaker 6: comments very personable, and I think that I've grown a
45:04
Speaker 6: really fun, big community because of that, and I'm able
45:08
Speaker 6: to get good engagement and good comments, some bad with Leo's,
45:11
Speaker 6: but people flocked to my Instagram to be able to
45:15
Speaker 6: talk about gymnastics now. And it's not something that I
45:18
Speaker 6: would have imagined, but I grew it to two fifty
45:23
Speaker 6: k in less than a year, three hundred k by
45:26
Speaker 6: two years. It was just in Forbes this summer and.
45:31
Speaker 3: Wait, can you tell me about that?
45:33
Speaker 6: Yeah?
45:34
Speaker 3: I was just in Forbes. Yeah, we like Forbes thirty
45:37
Speaker 3: under thirty, Like what are we talking about?
45:39
Speaker 6: No?
45:39
Speaker 2: So a Forbes sports journalist DMed me and.
45:44
Speaker 6: She was just like, hey, I I write for Forbes.
45:48
Speaker 6: I guess and I would really like to do an
45:50
Speaker 6: article on you about Planet Gymnastics. And I was like,
45:53
Speaker 6: is this real? And I looked through her stuff and
45:56
Speaker 6: she looked real.
45:57
Speaker 3: So did you have to travel somewhere?
45:59
Speaker 2: Did you know?
46:00
Speaker 6: We did a online We did a zoom interview this
46:03
Speaker 6: past summer and then she wrote everything released it. We
46:07
Speaker 6: talked about my life like we're doing right now, how
46:11
Speaker 6: I grew up in this sport, and then just she
46:14
Speaker 6: kind of highlighted everything that Planet Dymnastics had grown to
46:17
Speaker 6: be over the past two years.
46:19
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it was really cool. You should check it out.
46:23
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
46:24
Speaker 2: How are you everywhere?
46:26
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like you have so much diverse content on your page. Yeah,
46:29
Speaker 1: and it may not you can't be in a million
46:31
Speaker 1: places at once, but you are moving all over. How
46:34
Speaker 1: do you stay up to date and in tune and
46:37
Speaker 1: keep up with relevant content?
46:39
Speaker 3: Because you had stuff from the Olympics too, Yeah, did
46:41
Speaker 3: you go there?
46:42
Speaker 1: No?
46:42
Speaker 6: I would love to go to la though. That would
46:44
Speaker 6: be that's my next, like big, big goal. But in
46:48
Speaker 6: terms of staying relevant, my screen time is off the charts.
46:51
Speaker 6: You don't want to see it. But I worked in
46:55
Speaker 6: the NFL last year, and I think that being able to.
46:58
Speaker 3: Ye other casual all your free time, all.
47:01
Speaker 2: My free time.
47:02
Speaker 6: I worked in the NFL last year, worked at the
47:04
Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns and social media for a season.
47:06
Speaker 3: He worked with Jameis Winston.
47:08
Speaker 2: I did work with Jameis Winston.
47:10
Speaker 6: He asked my name at practice so that he can
47:11
Speaker 6: say hi to me.
47:12
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, this is nice. This
47:13
Speaker 3: is my nice.
47:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all downhill from here.
47:18
Speaker 6: But being able to work at such high caliber and
47:21
Speaker 6: seeing how social media has ran and then how I
47:24
Speaker 6: can improve gymnastics was very helpful and something that helped
47:28
Speaker 6: me fall back in love with the sport is seeing
47:30
Speaker 6: it from a lens that I love social media and
47:34
Speaker 6: being able to bring gymnastics fans content and different views
47:38
Speaker 6: behind the scenes of something that they've never seen just
47:41
Speaker 6: because no one has thought in that way yet. Is
47:44
Speaker 6: how I like to think that I keep my content
47:46
Speaker 6: divers and if you go on, like, at least my
47:50
Speaker 6: free page now was just filled with all of these
47:51
Speaker 6: girls in different gyms, So like, my biggest dream is
47:54
Speaker 6: to be posted on Planet gymnast, which is so cool.
47:57
Speaker 6: But then like I asked the permission to post that,
47:59
Speaker 6: and then I can post that and like, that's how
48:01
Speaker 6: I keep the community very tight knit. Is like showing
48:04
Speaker 6: all angles instead of just highlights.
48:06
Speaker 2: Of a sport. That's so cool.
48:08
Speaker 1: What's the lesson that you learned from your time with
48:10
Speaker 1: the Browns? So then what's on your page now.
48:14
Speaker 6: I learned It's called like helmet off content, so everything
48:18
Speaker 6: that you do outside of practice or games. So I'd
48:22
Speaker 6: be in the locker room with the guys after practice,
48:24
Speaker 6: before practice, and you're just trying to show off their personality.
48:27
Speaker 6: And that's kind of how I came up with this
48:29
Speaker 6: college takeover that I launched this preseason is I wanted
48:33
Speaker 6: to showcase not only the athlete's personality, which you don't
48:36
Speaker 6: get to see very often, but different parts of the
48:39
Speaker 6: sport that hasn't been shown. That's why I was in
48:42
Speaker 6: the media room yesterday and I was up in the
48:45
Speaker 6: video board controls. It was in the rafters yesterday too.
48:49
Speaker 6: You were, yes, it was scary. So I was terrified.
48:52
Speaker 6: I'm not going back. I was like one of the interns.
48:54
Speaker 6: I was like, please just send me this. I can't
48:56
Speaker 6: be up here anymore.
48:57
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
48:59
Speaker 6: But like when I was with Florida, which I was
49:01
Speaker 6: this past two days ago. I was just talking to
49:05
Speaker 6: their sports analysis person and so we're just going through
49:09
Speaker 6: different parts of the sport that you wouldn't have seen,
49:11
Speaker 6: but the NFL has already been able to produce.
49:14
Speaker 3: So I feel like that content is so fun to
49:17
Speaker 3: watch too, Like I see that on my TikTok all
49:19
Speaker 3: the time, or the yeah, what's your favorite Thanksgiving food
49:22
Speaker 3: or something like that. Like it's stuff that's like so
49:25
Speaker 3: stupid and like could seem minuscule, but it kind of
49:27
Speaker 3: shows me like, oh, like I kind of like the
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Speaker 3: personality of this player, like I'm maybe going to tune
49:32
Speaker 3: in to this game or something like that. You're able
49:34
Speaker 3: to get more like eyeballs relatable.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, And that's what I think.
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Speaker 6: It's fun to be able to pick my brain that way,
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Speaker 6: especially not being in school anymore graduating last year. For example,
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Speaker 6: I have a post that I'll be doing for Clemson
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Speaker 6: later that at the showcase, instead of just filming them
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Speaker 6: warming up on ball, I noticed that they have these
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Speaker 6: cards that they flash to the people that are setting
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Speaker 6: the table and setting the springboard and everything like that,
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Speaker 6: and people wouldn't normally see that and it's something that's
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Speaker 6: so zoomed in in gymnastics, Like it's such a minuscule
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Speaker 6: detail that it would have never been shown. So instead
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Speaker 6: of just recording their vault warm ups like anyone else
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Speaker 6: would and like I know that content will already be
50:13
Speaker 6: out there, I'm really trying to like, look at Okay,
50:16
Speaker 6: what can I do?
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Speaker 5: Instead?
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Speaker 3: Like how are we communicating with the team?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I miked up. I think it was Sophie
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Speaker 6: where Hannah was, I don't remember who.
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Speaker 3: I think it was Sierra who was flashing the cards.
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Speaker 2: No, Sierra was flashing the cards.
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Speaker 6: And then I don't remember who was down there, but
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Speaker 6: I miked her up and she's holding all of the
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Speaker 6: settings and like that's something that like all gymnasts would
50:36
Speaker 6: already know, but no one else would be able to see,
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Speaker 6: and just making the sport accessible to a ton of
50:41
Speaker 6: non gymnastics fans.
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Speaker 3: To clarify for the non gymnastics fans who listen on vault,
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Speaker 3: we have different settings. So the table raises from I
50:51
Speaker 3: think I think it will range in coll it from
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Speaker 3: like one twenty to one thirty, So you go one twenty, one,
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Speaker 3: twenty five, one thirty and based on your height based
50:59
Speaker 3: on how you like you have a different setting, So
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Speaker 3: I go on one thirty and then like one of
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Speaker 3: my other teammates go on one twenty five. And then
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Speaker 3: that's the same with the board that we punch off
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Speaker 3: of too, like it, you have to like line it
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Speaker 3: up to the specific numbers, like next to the vault
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Speaker 3: runway and that that's the same with the hand matt too,
51:17
Speaker 3: And you can change the hand mat from long ways
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Speaker 3: vertical or like horizontal.
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Speaker 2: And they're all like measured out.
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Speaker 6: So like my vault setting was five thirty six foot
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Speaker 6: so the back of the spring board and used to
51:29
Speaker 6: be five feet three inches away from the table, and
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Speaker 6: I want my hand matt at six feet away from
51:34
Speaker 6: the table, right, And that's something that gymnasts understand, but
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Speaker 6: no one else would have even thought to know about that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's based on like your stride of your
51:43
Speaker 3: run too, like how quick you run if you take
51:45
Speaker 3: like smaller steps in your run like it, it's all
51:48
Speaker 3: based on that, and then you start a specific number,
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Speaker 3: like I start at like seventy three and a half
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Speaker 3: feet away from the vault table, so I can take
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Speaker 3: ten steps, but that may be twelve steps for some
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Speaker 3: other person who runs differently than me or something like that.
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Speaker 3: It's very very I didn't think I would ever be
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Speaker 3: able to, like I would ever have to like explain that,
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Speaker 3: because it's like it's something I don't really think about
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Speaker 3: it because it's so natural.
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Speaker 2: But no one else would know. Yeah, I know, that's why.
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Speaker 2: That's why you're gonna get a video too.
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Speaker 4: Like not a lot of sports have that like specific
52:18
Speaker 4: even like football. Obviously it's like huge and like there's
52:21
Speaker 4: all these like accounts for it, but like I don't
52:23
Speaker 4: really feel like any of that's going on, you know,
52:25
Speaker 4: like the you know, the small things that you don't
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Speaker 4: really see.
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Speaker 3: I feel like that's like so unique, even for like gymnastics.
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Speaker 3: In a few seconds and if you set the table
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Speaker 3: or the mat wrong or you start at a different place,
52:37
Speaker 3: your whole vault is messed up, which can be like
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Speaker 3: essentially catastrophic.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, literally dangerous, Yes.
52:43
Speaker 3: Very dangerous. Yeah,