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Here’s How They’ll Try to Steal the Midterms - Gregg Phillips Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So by now, it's obvious that dark and powerful forces are manipulating our elections. Recently, Mark Zuckerberg basically admitted to Joe Rogan that the FBI and Facebook intentionally steered the outcome of 2020 by censoring news about Hunter Biden's laptop from hell. Meanwhile, in China, a server has been discovered containing the personal data of 1,800,000 US poll workers.
• 0:33
  And as we head into the midterms, the mainstream media is already starting the exact same narrative like they did in 2020. The big question is, how will they attempt to steal the midterms? And more importantly, can they get away with it even if we have a red tsunami? So joining me today is Greg Phillips to discuss all of this and more. Before we get started, today's show is brought to you by Rise TV, a Patriot owned streaming platform.
• 1:03
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• 1:44
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• 2:05
  The links to my podcast and all the social media are in the description below. And folks, by now, we've all sensed that we're in for a bumpy ride for the foreseeable future. Russia and China are truly flexing their muscles on the global stage, and they've aligned with India, Brazil, South Africa, and dozens of other countries to transition away from the US dollar as the dominant global currency. So what does this mean? Well, for most of us Americans, the US dollar is all we know.
• 2:33
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• 2:58
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• 3:18
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• 4:18
  If you already know someone that sells gold and silver, great. All I'm saying is that you should please act now and protect your wealth before it's too late. So folks, this is gonna be a fantastic, fantastic interview with the patriot Greg Phillips. But I have a quick note for those of you that are watching on YouTube. We're not gonna be publishing this interview on YouTube.
• 4:41
  Right? This is gonna be a very, very important interview, and we're gonna be talking about a lot of what happened in 2020, what they're lining up for 2022. And I can't publish this on YouTube. So if you want to join us and watch the rest of this show, which is gonna be incredible, please click on the link in the YouTube description, and you can go over to Rumble to watch it where we can actually talk about things openly over there. So, Dom, you can go ahead and cut the YouTube stream so we can go ahead and talk about all these things that the commies don't want us to talk about.
• 5:12
  So without further ado, let me go and bring on my guest today, Mr. Greg Phillips. So Greg, thank you so very, very much for joining me again.
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: Seth, I can't thank you enough for having me back, and your audience has been amazingly supportive of us and me, and I'm just really grateful for you and the work that you're doing and your voice for freedom around the world.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. You know, some people were calling this the battle of the beards, but I feel like we're on the same team. So I'm really worried for yours on the opposite side of you and I in the front lines of this.
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: I've had so many people recognize me because of my beard that it's actually, it's gotten a little bit silly. I'll walk down an airport, people come up and want to take pictures of me and, you know, be sure you get his beard in the picture. It's just it's kind of funny, but, you know, I've I've been able to laugh about it and enjoy it. And I I just you know, I'm I'm again, I'm super thankful for not just your listeners, but all the people that have supported Katherine through the vote and some of the work that we've been able to accomplish. It's really been extraordinary.
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: Well, it's really, really important because the I think that for a lot of us, we're going through this process of realizing that our country hasn't been in the control of We The People for quite some time. And, you know, without getting into the corporatocracy and all the corruption and bureaucracy that exists, just looking at the elections, which are really the foundation of us being able to choose who we want to represent us. That is like we're not, you know, we're not saying that if you're our leader, you have full command over us. We're saying, look, we're giving you permission to rule us. And this is one of the big problems we're facing right now is that they have hijacked that entire process of us being able to choose our leaders in a just and fair way.
• 7:11
  And so, you know, I wanna first dig into a few things that are just more topical. The first one being, I'm not sure if you saw the recent interview with Mark Zuckerberg and Joe Rogan, where Zuckerberg has come out, and and he I'm not sure if he's intending to do it on purpose or not, but he basically admitted that the FBI pressured Facebook to censor the Hunter Biden laptop information, which we know and and Trump was very open about this on true social saying, look. If that would have gotten out there, it would have turned the tides of the election. You know, the the damning evidence was so strong. So this we have you know, really, this is almost what you'd call the fascism.
• 7:50
  This is a wing of our government working with a private corporation to change the course of our own elections. I mean, this is a very slippery slope. So and I know that you've also had some dealings with the FBI, and you guys brought your information to the FBI. So I I wanted to just get your take on what you think the FBI's role is in our elections.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: Well, if you really get into the heart of this agent that was ushered out of the bureau yesterday in DC, really, I think, can see what they believe are the most important things. Right? And so this guy seems to be certainly a bad guy, but maybe sacrificial in some ways in the way that they let this happen. So this guy was in charge of election integrity related things, investigating those type things, which tells us a lot now that we've been through what we've been through. He was in charge of this laptop situation.
• 8:54
  He was in charge of the of the raid at at Mar A Lago and gathering those documents. So, you know, one one might think, well, this guy's really a bad guy. Our opinion is is reasonably close to that. We believe that that law enforcement broadly these days, whether it's state level or or even locally if it's a police chief, and and rising up to, of course, the FBI, that that there's a real distinction between some of these people, which I would call political law enforcement, you know, who who are given operations or given missions to go do things that have a very political feel and a very political bent. And, you know, whether it's Peter Strauch and his girlfriend or others, I mean, there there is plenty of of reason to believe that these people are not good people.
• 9:51
  But our experience is is interesting, in that when you get below that political law enforcement thing or that level, you really run into a lot of good people. I mean, some of the people that we've met and some of the people that we know in the intelligence community group, in the FBI, these people's job is and there are 17 agencies that have an intelligence community presence. So the intelligence community is made up by people inside of each of these organizations, whether it's DHS or whether it's the FBI or the NSA or the CIA, so on and so forth, all of the defense agencies. And their job is to surface information, to get information from people, to get information from confidential informants, to get information from human sources that they have and that they've acquired and maintain on the ground. It's important on in trafficking.
• 10:48
  It's important in drug trafficking, human trafficking, you know, all of the border issues. All of these issues have an intelligence community component to them so that if someone, say, in the air force IC comes up with some information, he or she might be able to give it then to someone at DHS that might need it, that they would do. So that's the way the community is sort of formed. And I'm obviously horribly oversimplifying something that's far more complex, But that's really what the IC is. Our experience with these people that are out there, and their job is to surface things that look is pretty extraordinary.
• 11:27
  I mean, these people have been you know, mostly good to us. They've, they've kept us out of trouble. They've alerted us when bad things were happening around us. We've been able to go to them when we've had, like, servers taken down. And, I mean, we can we actually have people we can go to and talk to.
• 11:48
  But similarly, these people's job is to surface information. So if we find something that is so important from a national security perspective that we just can't deal with. I mean, we're just people. Right? And we're just citizen citizens, researchers in a way.
• 12:02
  We happen to have a few maybe better connections or or not. We happen to have data sources, maybe some tools that the average the average, man or woman may not have. But the process of taking that information, understanding that it has a national national security implication, and then and then presenting it to your anyone's IC contacts, that's the way the game is supposed to work. And that that's what America is is really you know, how it's designed to work. And and those people are really good people.
• 12:36
  We don't we don't really run into any bad guys at that level and or at least as far as we know.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: I'll say real quick.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: That's But then once they get
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: it encouraging. I'll say this. That's encouraging to me because I think that it's really easy to look at these giant organizations or even these new 87,000 IRS agents and and just think that, like, okay. If you wear the FBI badge, you're a stormtrooper. Right?
• 12:59
  You're working for Darth Vader, so you're a stormtrooper. But, actually Right. I think that this what they want us to believe is that it's it's the behemoth of these agencies that are all against us. But actually, you know, you make a really good point, and that that even that, like, there gives me this sliver of hope instead of thinking that there's actually a lot of patriots and and and, you know, people that love the constitution. It's just their job, and they probably don't the fact that they hand that information up the ladder, and then it gets, know, say three levels above, and then something bad happens with it.
• 13:29
  So it's it's good to know that there are a lot more good people out there than they want us to believe. Sorry to interrupt you, but I I think it's an important point to me.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and, you know, important for us because frankly, I think we've survived it because of some of these people. Because, you know, when you work with people at this level, you sort of get to know them, and it's not that they're your friends per se, but but you have a collegial relationship with them, and you can pick up the phone and call them and say, hey. We've got something really important to talk about. Can you meet us for lunch? Or, you know, can you meet us in Houston?
• 14:01
  Or whatever the, you know, whatever the answers are. And and it it also helps sort of bridge the gaps into where you need to go. So let's say we had you know, I I can't think of let me I can't really think of a great example, but let's say we surface some information that had something to do with Ukraine and Russia, and it was super important. And what do you do with that? So you're just an average guy sitting in your office.
• 14:26
  Somebody presents you with something that seems like, oh my gosh. Somebody needs to know about this. If I took that to, say, an intelligence community representative from the FBI, he or she may not be able to do anything with that, but they might be able to hand that off then to or or and or introduce us to someone, say, at the agency or at or at the CIA or at the NSA or someone that or DOD for that for that matter, that that might have some knowledge or interest or whatever, and then handing that off and then letting us go make the presentation to that individual or really share kind of what we know and then walk away. What happens occasionally is really what happened to us in all of this is there are times I was just talking to a retired FBI agent this morning on this very topic, a very senior person. I mean, he's really somebody I really admire his career and his trajectory.
• 15:31
  And I was talking to him this morning about this, and I said, one of my frustrations is that, you know, if we stay in it, we never know where those those lines are. Those bright there is no bright white line. Right? It's more of a a gray kinda chalky line that you sort of get near. You step on it.
• 15:48
  You're like, oh, wait. I'm not sure I'm supposed to be here. Because sometimes you are given information from a from a human source or or acquire information from from open source research or whatever it is. But and sometimes it doesn't even matter. Right?
• 16:04
  Sometimes it you know, they don't care, and we don't care. So we try to hand it off to them. They're like, whatever. You know, we don't care about that. However, there are times when you do encounter things that that you need to hand off and and having people that you can go to, that you can trust to say, look.
• 16:23
  Here's how we receive this information. We don't want it. We wanna get rid. We don't want it in our offices or whatever. Here you go.
• 16:31
  Go do this. And they're these people are really great at handing off to people that they know and they trust inside of, say, a local field office of the FBI or or maybe maybe maybe a, you know, a a case officer at the agency or something like that. And so being able to hand off that data is important, but occasionally, it becomes more important because you know more than they know, or or there's an important operation that needs to be executed, maybe a counterintelligence type operation where they really need to stop what's happening. It's not just that they need to know about it, they need to go find the bad guy, but maybe it's still going on, and they need to try to engage in it and try to find ways that they can counter it or stop it from actually happening. And and even at that point, generally speaking, with one or two limited exceptions, you know, we've had very positive experiences in those handoffs and being able to brief people.
• 17:36
  They're interested. They're thoughtful. They're kind. They're smart. They bring in other analysts that may have different skills than they do to listen to us.
• 17:45
  And and and it was a and this happened in in January of twenty twenty one related to some information that we acquired from an open source research project that we were doing, and we didn't know, and still don't, whether or not it's, you know, actually a crime or not. We have our strong suspicions at this point. But when we handed this information off to them, they were willing to to accept it and take it, but they needed us to remain engaged because we knew so much more than they did. It wasn't like we could go have a, you know, thirty minute lunch with them, and here's your, you know, computer disk and or here's your storage disk, and good luck to you guys, which occasionally is. This is more like, this is a big deal, and and they need us to stay they needed us to stay in in the game.
• 18:43
  And so it went on for months. It went on for over a year, for eighteen months. We were working with them. I personally worked with them. I personally went to Detroit where they were working from and met with them and spent time with them and and shared information, shared phone calls, shared text.
• 19:00
  Hey. What do you know about this? Do you know about that? Do you know anything about the banking relationships? Do know anything about these new patents or these new trademarks that we found?
• 19:09
  And what's going on with this? And it was a very collegial in this case, a very collegial relationship with with with true patriots. I mean, now their job was would would prevent them from being out, you know, like like me or you would, you know, trying to uncover something just for the sake of patriotism. But but there's no question these people were good people and patriots, they worked with us right up until right up until the very end. And and and we never mostly, it wasn't until the near the end where we really had a sense that something went wrong, that it wasn't any longer about learning about who this company was or what they were doing or their involvement in elections or could we prove it or what was the connection between this company and that company or this bank and that bank?
• 20:00
  How did all what do you know? What it stopped being that. And and the challenge that we had was really post that, and we knew it was changing. Around mid April or so, Catherine received a call from one of our somebody that we were in close contact with at the FBI saying, hey. Don't want you to tell Greg this, but we got a problem.
• 20:26
  And the problem is we went up and presented eighteen months worth of research, or some people went up and and presented eighteen months worth of research. And during the presentation, the counterintelligence operators were basically ordered to go tell the the target that we had penetrated his systems illegally and and really turn it on us and and go to and it was China based. And so, you know, and and go and I'll come back to that in just a minute because that's the most striking thing of all that happened to me. And it was it was like, wait. What?
• 21:05
  And so, I mean, we didn't even know what to do. And he's like, listen. Don't worry, Kat. We're we're working on this. We're gonna have another meeting about it on a Friday.
• 21:13
  Now by now, it's very close to the mules being released, and we sort of had this sense. It was kind of feeling like maybe they're worried about the mules movie. Maybe they're not. What's going on with this? And then the movie's released, and we got another call right as the movie was being released saying, Look, don't worry about it.
• 21:32
  We worked this out. Nobody's in trouble right now. Whatever. And then about maybe maybe two or three weeks after the movie was released, we I'm sure your your viewers and listeners would would remember. I mean, we were we were pretty busy.
• 21:50
  I mean, we had a lot going on, and, you know, we were we were, you know, not only in demand publicly, but we we we were the media the the leftist media was really trying to poke holes in what we were doing and still are. I mean, think Philip Bump at the at WAPO has written, like, 20 articles down negative about us. And I got another request this morning that New York Times just want to do an article, not only about the old stuff, but about this newest stuff. And so it's starting with that again. And you just can't make this up.
• 22:19
  And so, anyway, we were in pretty hot demand. Well, I get this call on a Wednesday morning from from a a senior person at the at the FBI saying, listen. Someone I know. I'm saying, listen. You're in trouble.
• 22:34
  And I said, what? And he and he's pretty pretty threatening for him. We had never been threatened by them before in this way. But he's like, look. You talk too much, and you gave an interview, or you talked to a confidential informant who then shared with us that you had stolen three servers from the Chinese Internet and that you had copies of all of them, and you're in big trouble, dude.
• 23:00
  Like, wait. Woah. Woah. Woah. No.
• 23:03
  First first of all, I mean, now my the tech geek in me is coming out, Seth. You can't steal the Internet. Right? I mean, you can't steal the Chinese Internet or any other
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: You can steal an election. You can't steal the Internet. Right?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Right. Right. So so they were, in essence, accusing me of stealing the Chinese Internet. And and I'm I mean, it doesn't even it doesn't even really compute, but but then as it kind of kind of played out, somebody, you know, some you know, maybe someday I'll know who it was, and I'll be able to try to understand what actually happened. But but these people somebody went to the FBI and said that I had stolen three servers from the Chinese Internet, that I had copies of that stored all over the place.
• 23:46
  I think I know who it was because that's not at all what was said. They got confused between our video. We have a bunch of open source or video surveillance video that we got through open records, And we do have several copies of that stored in different places. And I think in the midst of all of what was being said out there, I think somebody simply went to the FBI and lied to him and said, he he stole the Internet, and he's got all these servers. And and and I you can almost imagine somebody some, you know, hater that that, you know, wants to get rid of us or me going out and doing that.
• 24:23
  And and it was so outrageous, but was it was it more outrageous than the phone call? Remember, this is somebody that I I know, and I I I have enormous reset respect for. He said to me after that shock was over, and we kind of battered about for a bit, then he says to me, Well, listen, do you still have the phone numbers of the guys in Detroit? I said, Do you mean the agents? And he said, Yeah.
• 24:49
  I said, well, of course. I mean, I mean, we we talk, you know, couple times a week for a year. And he said he said, well, they still want to work with you in trying to figure out this this situation. I'm like, woah, woah, woah, Wait a minute. You just threatened me and told me you're gonna have me arrested for stealing the Chinese Internet, and now you want me to go work with the same people that are in charge of the underlying investigation?
• 25:19
  This can't be right. It's the reason, Seth, that we decided to go public with all of this, and and we decided to share it in the way that we did, you know, with with people that I'm sorry. I haven't I haven't should've muted. Apology. It's the reason that we decided that we were going to share this at the pit with, you know, a 80 patriots, a 80 people, you know, most of which are are friends and, you know, cares my goodness.
• 25:58
  A % of them care about this country. And whether they're a % in line with my true north, you know, maybe not. There were a few hiccups around all of that, some people that were a little mad at me about some of the stuff. But we had to get it out, and we had to get it out as quickly as we could, knowing, first of all, that that anonymous researchers broadly, but researchers in general, especially some of the people at that event, are are top quality researchers. There were a few people there.
• 26:36
  One of them is one of the best open source researchers that I know. There were a couple of prosecutors there. Some people don't know that. We're gonna have a grand jury convening soon on some of this stuff. So we were very strategic in what we did and why we did it and who we invited, and and it's gonna pay dividends.
• 26:58
  It already has paid some dividends because I think it has pushed away this idea that, you know, we're gonna get Roger stoned here for the moment or, you know, or Paul Manafort or, you know, any of these other people they've drug out of their houses in the middle of the night, you know, like the jackbooted thugs that that that some of them seem to be. But but, again, that said, 90 virtually a % of the people that we came in contact with, we came in contact with, were good good people. They they were good. They were they they they looked after us. They they didn't seek to have anything ugly happen to us.
• 27:35
  It wasn't until it got to political law enforcement in DC, and what they said, two women, we don't even know who the two agents were, but two women agents ordered them to turn it on us. And and there were other calls in between where they were saying, look. You guys need to get ready for the nuclear option here, meaning go go public with this. And it was those abnomissions that ultimately is like, well, we can't wait. And, I mean, we went to a few we went to Senator Johnson, I think Katherine contacted Jim Jordan's office, and we contacted a few people high placed in the media, and, you know, they couldn't touch it.
• 28:16
  Was just too hot. And then, gosh, literally days before the pit, the raid at Mar a Lago, you know, it was was fortuitous to say the least.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: How much see, you know, I read a really good article detailing the server that you guys discovered in China where you found one around 1,800,000 poll workers, detail, right, the details on on almost 2,000,000 United States poll workers. But not just that, their family members, maps of the buildings where the voting machines are kept. I mean, how how much in your just in your understanding and through your research, how much of this goes back to the CCP? Right? And and back to, you know, the the the Chinese Communist Party really working to sway our elections.
• 29:12
  Like, lay out for me what you found that led you back to them.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It it was extraordinary. The adventure was extraordinary. So we we found that there was one individual who came here from China, as part of a sort of a professor exchange type program. He was an engineer, had trained at a university in in China, came to Michigan State back in 1998 or something like that.
• 29:39
  You know, very soon thereafter, started this company. The company got involved in a lot of telecommunication stuff. They were bringing they were sponsoring h one b people to come over here from China to turns out that one of the key programmers actually programmed the internal comms mechanism for for the Confucius Institute. And if you don't know much about Confucius Institute, you should. Yeah.
• 30:05
  And and, you know, Pompeo basically booted them out, and they've now reconfigured themselves in in other ways here in The States. But these are not good guys. The same guy that program the comms the the the system that transferred or that moved all of this data to China is the same guy that created the comms the internal comms mechanisms for, the Confucius Institute back to the CCP.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: A quick note out, you know, for the for the viewers that so the Confucius Institute, it's basically it's one of China's main ways of bringing propaganda into the school systems across America. So university level will have the Confucius Institute, where they'll fund teachers, all kinds of programming for people going to, you know, your local university to learn about China, but the entire thing is a CCP run infiltration and propaganda operation. Like, it's completely a communist operation. And know Mike Pompeo, yeah, he was very, very on top of trying to expose. I know the Epoch Times has done that a lot.
• 31:04
  So you're telling me that that this guy who was one of the lead programmers of the Confucius Institute itself is also the one that is, you know, spitting this data off to China. So is is it through their infiltration into these tech companies, into this I mean, how are they getting this? How is the CCP getting their hands on the data of these poll workers? And maybe if they're all using TikTok, it'd be easy. Right?
• 31:29
  But how are they getting that kind of information?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: There's a piece of software called Poll Chief. We started looking into Poll Chief because it kept emerging in places where we were doing research, and we found out, okay. It's in DeKalb County, Georgia. And next thing you know, it's in Travis County, Texas, where Austin is. And and we started looking around, and it's in Detroit, and and it's in all of these places.
• 31:53
  We're like, what in is happening here? And so we started Catherine started doing open records requests, and started learning a little more about these contracts and a little more about it. And as we dug in to using some open source tools that help you track these things, one called Binary Edge, we realized that there's one particular IP address where all of these soft and this this soft basically, this company created a software that manages elections. It manages all of the information, human information, facility based information. It manages the RFID codes on the machines.
• 32:30
  Everything there is to know about an election, it manages the hours that that people work in these elections. And all of this data rolls up into into depending on let's just say it's in Fairfax County, Virginia. Vote for Fairfax.com, and then vote for Boston.com, vote for the number 4LA.com. And all over the country, these the in Johnson Johnson County, Kansas, and, I mean, all over the country, This this software is emerging out there, and we're like, what? What is even happening with this?
• 33:05
  In binary edge, one of the things that it does is it not only tells you what URLs resolve there, all of those ones that I just mentioned, but it tells you where it lives. Where does the server live? And you could actually track it down, and you track it down to China on the main Unicom backbone in China. And and we it was almost impossible for me to believe. It came to me from some of my analysts who got me to they uncovered it.
• 33:32
  They brought me to Dallas into a hotel room at the Anatol Hilton Hotel in Dallas, just off the campus of SMU. I mean, I got there, like, nearly midnight, and we started rolling up into this data. They had plugged one of their computers into the television, and I'm looking at this stuff live. By 04:30 in the morning, I was pretty well scared that this was bad. You know, this wasn't our geo data, this wasn't what we normally do.
• 34:01
  And by the way, that's being tracked too, but that's a whole different topic. The volume of data that went beyond just this because the way China operates in their social scoring system is the data is all layered in, and they are the largest owners of data about Americans in the world. And so as data rolls in, it's not the better data.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Largest owner of data about America.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Correct. About Americans.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: About Americans.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: And and it and it's it's it's absolutely frightening what they've what they've compiled. The other piece of this that's important, and sorry, there's so many pieces to this. It's hard to kinda sometimes get your arms around. But the other thing that your your viewers and listeners need to understand is that by Chinese law, if something comes on to the Chinese backbone, in other words, it's in the Chinese Internet, that means the CCP owns it. And so what what I'm telling you is that that night in mid January of twenty twenty one, I personally witnessed the scrolling through of millions and millions of records about Americans.
• 35:22
  We later found out that that was attached directly to the score to the social scoring system through some pipes and some layers because they have to report it up. And once you're already in that server, you can just follow it up. Important keynote here, guys, that for your for everyone, especially the FBI, and especially the two women who wanna turn this on me, we didn't steal anything. They left it open. The database was a MongoDB database that they left open, and there was no stealing going on.
• 35:53
  There was some scraping going on, but there was no breaking in. There were no tools used to break in. We didn't steal anything. The Chinese left this open for everyone to see. But remember, it was coming from a software that was ostensibly a US based company.
• 36:12
  And it and I and so I'm not just saying this data was being stored in China. I'm telling you that apps were running from China. The database is running in China. It's on the Chinese Internet, meaning the Chinese own it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: So this is
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: And that's that was on a Friday night or Saturday morning, 04:30 in the morning by the time I left. I immediately drove down to Houston, never went to sleep that night, got Catherine to come over and meet me in Houston on Saturday morning. And by Sunday, we had made a plan to hand this off, this idea, this concept off to the FBI because it was national security. We knew that there were at the time before the Chinese scrubbed it all, there was a similar incident that happened in Australia. They had servers in Canada.
• 37:03
  There were there was all sorts of underpinnings around all of this that were just absolutely frightening. They have multiple offices in or near Michigan State, including one right across the street in the same building that it housed the Confucius Institute when it was still there. So there were lots of reasons for us to be, oh my gosh, we have to do something about this. One other interesting point is we so we pointed this out. We took it to the FBI, and they got engaged.
• 37:34
  And almost immediately, the target, the guy that ran the company started communicating with us about the open records request. And so so we're like, well, that's what we do. Yeah. We'll happily meet with you and talk to you about it. We did this all with the permission and the cooperation of the bureau because they had already opened up an investigation because this guy was already on their radar.
• 37:57
  It wasn't just that we brought something in. He was already on their radar, but they could never pin him down with anything. They didn't have the you know, they just didn't have the line of sight. Like, we just accidentally stumbled on. That launched an eighteen month investigation that brought me up to the pit.
• 38:14
  And so us having to explain what I just you know? And I I did it, I think, a little bit more eloquently at the pit. But but, Seth, this is real. This isn't this isn't just a joke. This isn't just, oh, believe me about these these PCAPs that are flying through the air.
• 38:31
  I, you know, I I actually happen to know a little about PCAPs, but but this is not that. What we're saying is that data being being processed by an app run by a company based in Michigan is processing, storing, analyzing, and utilizing all of the data that is gathered from these elections. And from their own website, it says they're in thousands of counties across the country. And and we know they're in places like Los Angeles. You know?
• 39:07
  We we know that there are I can tell you today, there are 43,000 records of Los Angeles Poll Workers that are that are on this list. What's even more frightening about that particular one is the the Los Angeles version of it in particular. What they have programs in LA where young people, high school kids, as soon as they're they're 16, can go work in the polls. It's a great experience. It's it's you know, it's it's I think it's great.
• 39:37
  I mean, I think it's a great program. But how would you feel if if your teenager's personal information, including what they're studying, if they're in college or if they're in high school, what they focusing on? And all of this information was stored in this Chinese social scoring system.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: And that's what's frightening to me. That's what I wanted to ask you about. So do you think from what you're seeing that the CCP is using a variety of, you know, we know they're using TikTok. There's all kinds of, you know, backdoors that they're using, including selection software, to build a database of Americans and that they're layering their social credit system in with that database. And that's a frightening thing to ask about is why on earth would the CCP be building a digital database of American citizens that ties into their social credit scoring system?
• 40:37
  That is frightening.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: It's it's It's absolutely frightening. And when you consider now that they know these people's cell phone numbers, they know everything about them, they can track them, they know when they're leaving the polling places, they know when they're leaving the polling places. They know when it's gonna shut down. They know who's working. So if you wanted to shut down this not that anybody would ever shut down vote counting on election night, but let's just say that everybody wanted to shut down vote counting on election night at the same time.
• 41:10
  And but you and you knew every single person that was working in every single polling place and every single target area, and you had all that information, you don't think that that's something that they could have figured out. I mean, it makes it makes it makes me question every single person. You know, the the penetration of the Chinese. I mean, you know, you go in and you find I'm just I'm just making this up. You go and you find an 18 year old kid who's just doing this to make $15 an hour, and you go in and say, hey, You know, some Chinese, you know, honeypot or whatever goes and meets up with some teenage boy and says, hey.
• 41:44
  Got something for you if you'll just just give me a little bit of information. And and you you think about those possibilities. It's it's it's off the edge. It's frightening. And and I'll I'll add to a few more things to this.
• 41:59
  The number of secretaries of state and election officials in The United States Of America that have been to China on these on these sharing adventures that they go on. I'm talking about Republicans. I'm talking about Democrats. I'm talking about people that are have have shown up in, you know, speaking secretaries of state in The United States speaking Chinese and thanking them for all that they've done to help them get elected and and and traveling over there. What in the world is a secretary of state in the in, say, Alabama?
• 42:38
  What in the world is the secretary of state in Alabama doing going to China to talk to their students about our elections?
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: What? It's even because this is something I I Students
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: students of what would be my question.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. But even it's it's mayors mayors of small towns in Ohio. Like, and so, you know, back when I used to work with the Epoch Times, I made a lot of contacts of people that really understand China, and they've got access to China like no media I've seen on Earth, what they're able to uncover there. And I remember speaking to a woman that was very well connected, and what she told me was that the CCP has studied every single level of our society to know how everything works, even down to the the board level of a local school. They know how it works.
• 43:24
  They know who the key influencers are. And so they invite people over to China for these trips. And it's it's not just, you know, like, you know, we might see like, say, Mitch McConnell, and, you know, we know his wife is very tied into the Jiang Zemin regime and all these kinds of things. But it's literally mayors of small towns in a in a place like Ohio, for instance. And what they do, though, and what this woman explained to me, is that it's it's bribery and blackmail.
• 43:48
  And that's the purpose of these trips. So these hotels they're staying in, each hotel room might have thirty, forty, 50 cameras and recording devices. And so say that there's a mayor from small town Ohio that's a good Christian man, you know, family guy. He's like, why? I get a trip to, you know, China to talk to them.
• 44:04
  They wanna learn how we're successfully running our small towns in America. You know, what an honor. Well, you know, he's at dinner with somebody, and someone pulls him aside to sit down and say, look. We're gonna give you half a million dollars for you to work with us. But it means you're gonna to, you know, do what we say, and we're gonna need information.
• 44:21
  We need access to your information, etcetera. He might say, look, you know, look, I'm God fearing man, and I'm a patriot. I'm not gonna do that. He goes up to his room, and a woman shows up. Beautiful young Chinese woman shows up at his door, and she knocks in, and she says, hey.
• 44:37
  You know, can I come in? And he goes, look. Nope. Like, I'm I'm a Christian man. I've got a wife and four kids at home.
• 44:43
  Not gonna happen. He wakes up the next morning with her in his bed next to him. He didn't realize they already planned it. They knew that they they don't accept. Oh, he didn't accept our bribes, so it's not gonna work.
• 44:56
  They already poisoned. They already put something into his drink at night, you know, and she doesn't go up there. There's no option. They've got it all recorded. And if he's lucky, that's all it was.
• 45:04
  It might have been a young child. It might have been a young child that he wakes up dead with the child dead next to him. You know, everyone looks at Epstein. The communists, you know, they're the ones that mastered the use of pedophilia as blackmail. And that was mean, that's that's old Soviet you know, Soviet campaigns, that that was a deep thing that they did.
• 45:22
  So this is, you know, it's honeypotting to the nth degree. And this is how they've compromised so many people in America. And it's not just, you you look at Congress and say, oh, you know, Crenshaw or, know, Kissinger, whoever you want to you want to kind of point at. It's on the small local levels. And what you're telling me, just it matches up perfectly to so much other stuff that I've heard.
• 45:45
  But the fact that they're layering all this information they're getting with a social credit system, and it's just like, my goodness, like, what have we gotten ourselves into? What have we gotten ourselves into? But I want to talk to you a little bit as we're heading into the midterms. Right? I just saw an article this morning how, you know, CNN is saying, you know, we thought it was gonna be a red tsunami, and now it's gonna be a red puddle.
• 46:08
  So the media is already laying out the narrative that a lot more people are actually not gonna be voting Republican, even though we know it's the opposite. We know that. It's like, after the last two years, who in their right mind is still gonna look at that and say, you know, I want more liberals in in in in congress. I want more liberals in the senate, etcetera. And so they're already laying the foundation for this.
• 46:31
  So yeah, to me, it's almost it's a given that they're gonna try to steal the midterm elections, especially with Biden recently coming out and talking about, look. Once we win the midterms, we're gonna ban assault weapons. We're gonna, you know, get Roe v. Wade back, you know, in its right place. So what do you think their game plan is?
• 46:50
  Because we're watching them now. Right? I know that a lot of what you guys are doing with the Pit, with the sheriffs, with empowering the citizens, with, you know, teaching people about how the mule networks work. Like, we're uncovering, you're uncovering a lot of their methods of deception and treachery. But to me, I don't expect them to say, you know what, you know, Greg Phillips, and they're doing such a great job, we probably can't steal the election.
• 47:13
  Right? I'm sure they've got intricate plans. So how do you think they're still going to attempt this? And more importantly, after that, how can we stop it? How can we ensure that we can still somehow get the right America First Patriots into office?
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, let me say that that much of what you just described could have been avoided had Republican legislators in states around this country done the right thing, stepped up and been leaders and stopped this nonsense. You know, in Arizona, you know, they there are three or four different bills that might have made a difference. None of them passed ostensibly because one person supposedly in the senate that didn't want them to pass. And You just can't make this stuff up. Our experience during these last couple of years has been amazing.
• 48:09
  Georgia passed a bill that frankly almost made it worse than better. And by the way, I said that earlier in the week, and lo and behold, I start getting beat up in Georgia again for the meal stuff. It's just true that there was no leadership. But here's what did happen along the way. That great awakening amongst people, you know, whether it was because of meals or meals was just one of the reasons or whatever, there's a real understanding.
• 48:38
  And there's some amazing people out there that don't know anything about meals that are just doing their own thing and and thinking, how can I help? What can I do? Catherine long Catherine Engelbrecht has long said that that sometimes it's not enough just to vote, and this is one of those times. So here's our view of what needs to happen. I know everybody's got a different opinion, and I embrace those opinions.
• 49:02
  I mean, many of these people are my friends. They just disagree with me about whether you should early vote or vote on election day or how you should do this, what we should all do. One thing we've learned through all of our research and all of the work that we're doing is that while some people believe that this was really sophisticated and that these machines are programmed in a way to do certain things and flip boats and do all this kind of stuff, one thing that we believe that we know is that much of what's happened from what people likely call fraud is really process based. You can watch them manipulating the processes that they believe can help them win. Now, I'm sure there are some of these machines and some of this other stuff that are happening out there.
• 49:57
  You know, we just didn't look at that because we don't believe that the bulk of the cheat is that sophisticated. If it is that sophisticated, then we do have a problem. But here's what we know, and we've tested some of this out. We tested some of this out in Arizona this year. We've done it in some other elections elections across the country during the primaries.
• 50:17
  They they build in the cheat into the process and into the, say, the the machines or the algorithm, the software that runs the machines. And if we can just agree on that, then then the extension is, okay. They have to build that that process, or they have to build the cheat into those processes in it well in advance. The reason that they fight so hard not to chain you know, to make the process fit them, you know, they had all those consent decrees back in 2021 in 2020. Most of them expired in 2021.
• 50:52
  A few of them are still around, not so many. I mean, there's there's been some some positive sort of process based things that have happened. It takes a while to really embed all of this. What people sometimes don't fully understand is that this is not just one election system. You can't just break into into a the the federal system, or you can't break into even a state that that you have to break into 3,700 counties, you know, 85,000 precincts to really make a difference, and and you or to to really make the difference that people think they can make.
• 51:29
  Does some of it happen once you get to central count? Maybe. But the cheat happens long before that, and it really puts it puts in place the possibilities that central count can make those changes. What I would have rather done, I wish we would have cleaned the voter rolls, make it mandatory. Every thirty days, these secretaries of state and the counties have to clean their voter rolls.
• 51:49
  I'd like to I would like to have eliminated mail in voting completely. I would like to or except for, you know, extreme circumstances, somebody's disabled or or whatever. We've gotta make provisions for all of that. Everybody agrees with that. We've gotta get rid of these drop boxes.
• 52:05
  It's a crime. What happens is a crime. And in the in the in the zeal to make it easier for people to vote, they opened up a door to criminals. And furthermore, I would say they opened up a door even to disparate treatment. So if you take these drop boxes, you put them only where poor people live or mostly where poor people live, then you created a disparate treatment possibility under the law.
• 52:32
  And so drop boxes boxes need to be eliminated. Then the final thing that I would have recommended is make this a serious crime. Make people fear what's going to happen to them. Make it a make it a ten year mandatory sentence if you if you're the meal runner and that you're causing these ballots to be stopped. These meals don't want to go to jail.
• 52:50
  Make it a five year mandatory sentence. If you're caught stuffed in ballots, you're going to jail for five
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: years. Should be
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: a federal
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: offense. I mean, it should be no question.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: %. Hundred %. They could stop it. But the states could have done all of these things. They chose not to.
• 53:05
  Here's what we learned along the way, and here's why we think that that this that we have a chance to to overwhelm this. They tried in Arizona to when Carrie Lake was running in the primary, they tried in Arizona to say near the end what they the the Republican, whoever they were, tried to run some lady up there, a 50 year old lady married to a 95 year old billionaire, and they she was out spending this money trying to get elected. Oh, that's fine, and you can say what you want about her. You know? I think she was a fool, but but you notice a few weeks before early voting, they started saying even my pollster called we we had a pretty tense conversation where I said, what is going on?
• 53:46
  You're sharing these numbers, and these numbers, you know, they're not reflecting what we're seeing. He goes, oh, you don't know what you're talking about. Whatever. We got in a pretty tense conversation. But it dawned on me on that conversation that that's the first place they start manipulating, just like you just said, Seth.
• 54:01
  They start manipulating and and start to change expectations amongst the populace, that there is this this tsunami of support for these rhinos in that case or the leftists in other cases. But as we started really looking into it, we decided that they were building their projections based on numbers that they were injecting into the situation. So you could take what they were saying and realize that they were taking those projections, and then that's how they were deciding how much cheating they wanted to do, how much ballot stuffing they wanted to do, how much miscounting they wanted to do. All the things that they needed to do, they were using those initial projections because it takes a while to get this done. You can't just say, oh, I'm gonna change this tomorrow and make it happen.
• 54:53
  You can't do that. So what we what we've figured out was that that if we sat down together, all of us, and and I was fortunate enough to have an opportunity to sit down with with with some of Carrie's people, her her campaign people, some other lawyers, and some other people from around the country, some of the America First people, some other people, and really make up a plan. Okay. If this, then that. And we made an entire contingency plan.
• 55:19
  If this happens, here's what we're gonna do. If this happened, here's what we're gonna do. But the other thing that we did was stop the consciously stop this idea that they that was going around the state at that time that everybody needs to vote on election day. I'm for that, but that means everybody. If our side is the only one voting on election day, that's how they know how much cheating they need because they can project then you're gonna get this many votes, and they'll have it down to a few thousand votes.
• 55:51
  That's why you always see it. Like, you know, they they figure it out, and they get it close. And then, you know, it gets, you know, fifty one forty nine, and then all of a sudden it flips. That's all they gotta do. And that's why it happens over and over and over again.
• 56:06
  But our idea was to flip the script on that and overwhelm them in the in the early voting so that it screws up all their projections, and they have no way to deal with the overwhelming vote also happening on election day. So what we what we learned, and and this is how we projected what was going to happen on election night, if you go back to election night and look, it was, you know, Kerry was behind by 40,000 votes and or 41,000 votes. But what that was happening is they were counting and certifying signatures. They hadn't already counted those votes. Everything that happened on election night was the early vote with signature verification.
• 56:55
  So the next day so that was on Tuesday. So Wednesday's count, they added another 25,000 votes or so, was the stragglers, the extra stuff, the Yokaba stuff, all these extra ballots that dribbled in, or there was just something confusing about them, or they couldn't verify signature. They were curing signatures, whatever else it was. That happened on Wednesday. And then by Thursday, what they were counting was the verified signatures from Tuesday.
• 57:22
  So there were three separate counts. And and had everybody just voted on election day, they would have been able to potentially overwhelm it by Thursday when they actually counted election day ballots. Our point was just take that option away from them. So we overwhelmed them with early votes, and and you somebody if somebody wanted to go back on in in truth and look at my timeline, At one point, you could see it start to roll, and you could see by the time by the time the the early vote was done counting, it was nearly even. I think the carry was up by a few thousand votes.
• 58:04
  And then by and then she gained a few more votes on that Wednesday count, which was the stragglers. And then by Thursday, she was ahead, and there was nothing they could do. They couldn't cheat enough because we had also overwhelmed the vote on election day. So in in effect, what we were able to do is find a method to blow past their cheating, and there was nothing they could do about it. But we had so many contingency plans if something went wrong.
• 58:32
  Like, you may remember in Pinal County that they sent out a bunch of bad ballots, and then the guy that the the guy that sent the bad ballots out backed it up with 63,000 more bad ballots. Well, we had a contingency plan for that, So we went to sheriff Lamb and said, hey. What's going on? He's like he's like, we're on this. Blah blah blah.
• 58:56
  I said, okay. Well, we need to watch because here's what they'll do next. And and sure enough, on election day, they tried to act like they ran out of ballots. We already had a plan for that. So so even for the few precincts that actually ran out of ballots, we had a plan to get more ballots into those precincts.
• 59:16
  And and sheriff Lamb and and others in the county, the honest people, had their eyes on this. They fired the guy. So we had contingency plans for each of the things that they might do, and that's what we have to do. I understand why people think we ought to vote on election day. If I had my druthers, I would only vote on election day.
• 59:36
  Everybody votes on one day. Give the whole nation the the day off, and everybody go vote on election day. I'm a % for that. I'm also in favor of voting on paper until we get all the tech fixed. We've got too many tech problems.
• 59:50
  But if we did that, we could get a good clean count on election night, and everything would be would go back to, you know, some semblance of normal. But that's not where we are. Remember, the Republican leadership failed to change anything. We still have all the same machines we had before. We still have all the same algorithms that are running or software that's running those machines.
• 1:00:09
  We still have all this many of the same people that the cheaters that were there before. So we have to build contingency plans. We have to build to build a a a method to overwhelm their expectations in the early vote in states that do it because there's still states that don't do it. But then we have to also overwhelm them on election day, and there's nothing they could do about it. They won't be able to make the changes quick enough.
• 1:00:34
  And if they do try to make the changes by sending out more ballots, by doing this, by doing that, then we're there with eyes on watching this process. I'm not saying it's gonna be perfect. Yes. We're gonna have some mistakes, but I'm telling you that there are prosecutors right now, prosecutors that will be completely unexpected that come forward and nail some of these people for the cheating as we approach September and October. And what you're gonna see is you're gonna see an absolute fear from the left because they don't wanna go to jail.
• 1:01:02
  Right? They wanna cheat, but they don't wanna go to jail. Some of these people are going be charged with perjury. Some of these people are to be charged with fraud. Jeff.
• 1:01:15
  I think I might have lost.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Nope. I'm here.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Yeah. Perfect. Okay. The the the some of these people are gonna be doing things that but if we have eyes on, and we have eyes on these drop boxes, and we have sheriffs that we can hand things off to, and we have prosecutors that, whether they're on the right or on the left, are interested in justice and free and fair elections, then we're gonna have a great opportunity to to not just survive this, but actually overwhelm this.
• 1:01:47
  So rather than thinking of it as a red tide, I don't know if you know much about what tsunamis actually are, but tsunamis actually overwhelm them. There's more water than there is place for it to be, and that's what it really needs to be. And and I think we can overwhelm them both sides of this and completely break their algorithms. Even if they started today, they couldn't fix what's gonna happen. Now there are gonna be some places where we're gonna lose this.
• 1:02:15
  There are gonna be some places in New York and other places where they have some other problems and some other softwares that that have intervened, but there are also more patriots awake right now, and there are more people willing to get eyes on and to engage. And as I said earlier, Catherine always says, sometimes just voting is not enough. You also have to work. Now's that time. We need to be ensured that if you can't work, if you've got, you know, two full time jobs, then you just gotta be sure you vote.
• 1:02:43
  And you also have to be sure your friends, your family, your colleagues, everyone votes. You know, pick that old lady up across the street and drive her to the polls. Help her vote. It's up to us now. The government's not gonna the government's trying to kill you.
• 1:02:57
  The RNC doesn't care. They don't want you to win. And so we have to overwhelm this, and it's the only way to do it. It means voting. It means working.
• 1:03:08
  It means helping. It means supporting the patriot movement. Find your true north. We've had a lot of people say things like, well, until we fix 2022 or 2020, we can't we can't we're not gonna vote in 2022. Well, that's exactly what they want you to say, and anybody who says that to you is suspect in my view.
• 1:03:26
  The other big thing that's out there right now, Seth, is people saying and some really important people in the movement are saying we may not have elections in in in this cycle. I wholly disagree. There is no means to do it. People keep saying, well, Biden's gonna issue some executive order and do something to keep it from happening. Biden can't do that.
• 1:03:49
  These are state elections. States run these elections. This isn't this isn't a presidential year where we've have to worry about the electoral college. States run these elections. It's not gonna happen.
• 1:03:59
  We're going to have elections, and it's going to happen this year. If you want to have a contingency plan where you say, look. I I I don't I just disagree with you, Greg, and and I wanna find out what happened in 2020. Okay. So do we.
• 1:04:13
  That's why we're working. That's why we're doing the work that we're doing. That's why we're still, I think in the next seven business days, we're gonna be in seven different states talking to prosecutors. We want it fixed too. So join us, but you still have to vote.
• 1:04:27
  You still have to work in twenty twenty two. If you wanna have a contingency that if if Biden does this, then we're gonna you know? Whatever. Okay. But that doesn't that's that's a that can only be a contingency.
• 1:04:43
  Yeah. That's not what's gonna happen. We're twenty eight days away. Actually yes. Today's Tuesday.
• 1:04:48
  We're twenty eight days away from early voting in the first early voting states. Twenty eight days. They've already printed the ballots. They've already printed Yom Kaba. They already have these ballots out there right now.
• 1:05:01
  The early voting process, once it kicks off, almost guarantees that there won't be anything else that happens. You cannot wait. You have to work. You have to vote. You have to help other people vote.
• 1:05:16
  You have to get people registered. If you know somebody that's not registered, take them and get them registered. Take them. You take them. Get in your car, pick them up, and take them.
• 1:05:26
  That's up to you. And think about if the patriots just I think I have, like, a 50,000 or something people that follow me. Think about if a 50,000 people that just follow me went and picked somebody up and got them registered to vote. That's a 50,000 new votes. Right?
• 1:05:44
  And I know I get wound up about this, but this misinformation that's out there and people that are well meaning but just, you know, they don't know elections, they haven't been involved in this, you know, just because you were, you know, really good at your job and you're really good something doesn't mean that you really fully understand what's going on with these elections. Unless you've watched these people do this for the forty years that I have, between me and Catherine, we've been doing this for over fifty years. We get this. We know how they're gonna cheat. We understand the process.
• 1:06:19
  So pick and choose, you know, who you listen to carefully, but the one thing you can never do is listen to someone who says, don't vote.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Those people are wrong. They have a they have an agenda that is not yours.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: And I think that what, you know, what you've shown with Arizona, which was a critical a critical election with Cary Lake, is that their fortress is not impenetrable. And that if we do, if we overwhelm them, if we the people take control, we can actually do this. We can cast them off as as we're supposed to.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: So, Greg, we're gonna be heading over to Rise TV for some q and a very soon. There's a few a few points. And and once we get over there, actually, I wanna ask you whether you think there's a path for Trump to get back into the White House before 2024. So I want to have that kind of brief discussion over there because it's something that just is is eating away at me and whether whether there's a possibility that how we can make that happen. And then we also have some other questions that are answering.
• 1:07:23
  If those of that are watching live right now, if you want to ask your questions, come join us over on Rise TV. It's it's free. There's a link for a free trial. So it's free today. You can go come over there, set an account up, you can come in.
• 1:07:35
  It's a very it's a fantastic place. You can get your question answered most likely by Greg, which would be fantastic. But Greg, before we do that, where can people follow you? And what resource have I know you guys are working on building resources for people that want to get more involved in the voting process. So for all the people that are watching, and actually, I'll say really quickly, I really I hope that those of you watching can share this video.
• 1:07:59
  I know right now you're watching live. You're hanging on the edge of your seat, you don't want to do it right now. But after you're finished watching, email it to few friends, put up on True Social, put on Telegram, Facebook, that you'll probably get banned on Facebook for a week or so. Unfortunately, it's just Facebook, and it is how it is. But, you know, just get this out there, and it's it's just important for this information to be getting out, a, the details you've given us about how we can actually make this election successful.
• 1:08:23
  But also, I feel like our conversation today has really helped people see that a lot of who the real enemies are and really seeing China's role in our election system and what the threat is. Know, so again, you know, share this show. And also, Greg, if you feel let me know if I can pull any websites up or something, but let me know where should people go to get more involved in what you're doing, both on the ground or support what you're doing? I want people to really know how to access your your work.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, let me say truethevote.org. Katherine and the True The Vote team are doing some amazing things and creating some amazing opportunities. Truethevote.org and sign up and promise you they'll get you engaged. The second group is, another group that Catherine, founded with sheriff Mark Lamb, and that's protectamerica.vote. Protect america Vote.
• 1:09:15
  There's a cool video up there. You can kinda see what they're doing. You could sign up there. You can nominate your sheriff to participate with us. It's a key thing to do.
• 1:09:23
  So protect America. Patriot Games Dot Dot mhmm. As for me, PatriotGames.com. We started it as kind of a just a little podcast because we were what we're hoping to do is create sort of a reality podcast so that as we we're gonna educate people on what we're doing. We have a fusion data fusion center that we're pulling people into.
• 1:09:44
  It's called Ground Fusion.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Is that
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: that's Patreon.com. This @ Com.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: So TV. Yeah. Of it as sort of a a reality podcast. We're gonna you're gonna be able to listen in to us and our analysts. We're gonna be taking we're gonna be taking information that we gather from people in the field.
• 1:10:03
  We're gonna be working that information, and we're gonna show you how we actually run ops. So that's a kind of a fun thing if you're interested in doing that. And, man, between the three of those and, you know, folks like you, Seth, and so many others that are out there, Let's say we're on Rumble. You're on Rumble. Catherine's on Rumble.
• 1:10:21
  I think I think hers is True to Vote. I think mine's Real Patriot Games. And, and then, she's on Locals. We haven't started on Locals yet. Don't don't know that I actually will, but I think she's got a Monday night show at 6PM, central, 7PM eastern, where that she's bringing folks in and and and really doing a good job and and having an interesting conversation on her local show.
• 1:10:44
  So we're everywhere all the time. We're spending as much time as we can talking to folks. And and as we start approaching the selection and and really get back into the cycle where folks need to be thinking about, you know, what what can I do, Reach out to one of those groups? Reach out to us. We'll we'll absolutely join with you.
• 1:11:05
  Go lock arms. I may not agree with everything you think, and you certainly won't agree with everything I think. But you know what? If we're all heading in the same general direction and God's freedom and a true north that we can all agree on, then I'll lock shields with anyone, I'll trudge forward. I don't need to agree with you on every single issue.
• 1:11:22
  I don't need to agree with you that you only ought to vote on election day. It's just a difference of opinion. What we all know is that we have to overwhelm this this time, and we have to beat these people back at the polls, and there's nothing they can do if we do overwhelm them.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. I think you and I probably agree on most things, That's my my guess. But, again, it's the the fundamental thing is that, look, whether you're liberal or white or black or gay or straight doesn't matter. Like, all of us as Americans right now, we're free. Right?
• 1:11:53
  We're one of the freest countries in the world. And they're trying to take that away from us. And so I really hope that every American can really recognize what's at stake here and and just stand up and fight for it because we have to. And we also have to really help our fellow citizens, even the ones that are very brainwashed, see the truth of what's happening and get them to realize that it's not just the MAGA that are having their freedoms taken away. That's just the first step.
• 1:12:20
  Right? Because at the end of this, every person in America has their freedoms taken away. Go look at communist China. Look at the social credit system. That's what we're up against.
• 1:12:28
  And the more Americans that can realize that, then the more we can stand together and lock shields, as you say, to fight against this enemy. So alright. So, folks, we're now gonna head over to Rise TV for the q and a portion. Also, I wanna dig into what you think is is unfolding with Trump, because it to me, it seems like they're trying to take some some preemptive steps to prevent him from getting in, obviously, in 2024. But, you know, it could be that they're trying to prevent things from happening sooner than that.
• 1:12:57
  So I really wanna hear your thoughts on that. So again, folks, if you wanna come join us, there's a link for a free trial in the description below. Rise TV is a Patriot owned streaming platform. So by if you want to choose to stick around, it's $10 a month. That's up to you.
• 1:13:11
  But it's a great way to support the the work that I'm doing and my team is doing. And so I hope to see you there. So, again, all you that are watching, thank you so much for watching this on the public platforms. Dom, you can go ahead and cut those public feeds. And so now we're gonna be on Rise TV exclusively.