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- 0:00It's the worldwide sports radio network.
- 0:05The New York Knicks are expected to sign Mike Brown as their next
- 0:09head coach, after a wide-ranging and at times, maddening search
- 0:13is brown gonna be up to the task where Tom Thibodeau was not
- 0:17according to the Knicks brass, or is it just a lateral?
- 0:20Move free agency is here in both the NBA and NHL and we will head
- 0:25to the round table and whip around both leagues and examine
- 0:28all the trades, extensions and players on the move.
- 0:30Before we dive inside baseball later tonight, on a fresh new
- 0:35live Wednesday edition of Jabba, and the mouse.
- 2:09Do it. Oh, you just heard fish?
- 2:18He's back. He's not.
- 2:19He was on vacation hanging out with the woman who knows where
- 2:23he was. I know he was at Yankee Stadium,
- 2:25he was hanging out with some Java, Chamberlain fans.
- 2:28Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to a new show
- 2:31of Jabba and the mouth, I'm your host, Darrell marks my co-host,
- 2:35Java, Chamberlain and Speedy Petey.
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- 2:59You can call us ladies and gentlemen, if you have any time
- 3:02to reach out to us during the show, you're more than welcome
- 3:05to. Our number is 631672 31008.
- 3:10Anyways, Mr. Java, what's up man?
- 3:12Not just enjoying the heat. You're enjoying this?
- 3:15Yeah. That's not too bad.
- 3:17I mean I've got about 18 different Tan Lines working
- 3:20right now but got some got some things to blow up and going to
- 3:25hang out with some friends and family and chill and grill out,
- 3:30eat too much. And you know, do the normal
- 3:32stuff got a Got the good old Fourth of July gear, ready to
- 3:36go, got me some new, some new trunks.
- 3:38She always have to add every year to the.
- 3:40You have a swimming pool at your house.
- 3:43No, no. So you're going to a friend's
- 3:45house, you're hanging out at a friend's house and like, yeah,
- 3:47we're kind of gonna be all over the place.
- 3:50Like my son's gonna be at the lake with all of his buddies.
- 3:53Yeah, they're too cool to hang out with parents anymore.
- 3:56They just they just want money for fireworks at this point.
- 3:58So they're gonna do all that and hang out and we'll just kind of
- 4:02bounced around from telling friends and family tell them not
- 4:05to hang out with jpp because we all know what happened in jpp.
- 4:08Yeah. Saying it out with fireworks and
- 4:10shooting them up and if you're fish and by the way thanks
- 4:13thanks to all the fans reaching out to me and asking me where
- 4:16fish was fish. Was out.
- 4:18He's celebrating his anniversary with his wife.
- 4:21Enjoy the five-day vacation, he's back for a Wednesday show.
- 4:25No, we're not gonna have a show tomorrow, it's I guess Fourth of
- 4:29July Eve, I'll be with my mother taking care of some things with
- 4:34her. So we are decided to move the
- 4:36show to Wednesday, obviously for family reasons, but happy Fourth
- 4:42of July, to all the friends. And families out there listening
- 4:45to our show right now. This is my research, please.
- 4:48Yes. This is my favorite holiday of
- 4:50the year. I don't know why it is.
- 4:51But for some reason, it is everybody.
- 4:54Likes Halloween. They like Christmas because of
- 4:56the gifts, even Thanksgiving because you can blow up like a
- 4:58balloon. I have no idea why I like Fourth
- 5:02of July and has nothing to do with fireworks because I don't
- 5:04like them. So I just it's, it's something
- 5:07about this holiday. Maybe it's the beginning of the
- 5:09summer, even though I can't stand the summer, but it's
- 5:13great. And I'm gonna be hanging out
- 5:14with the beef for the Fourth of July.
- 5:16So maybe Speedy will be hanging out if he is not in la la land
- 5:20or Speedy land because sometimes I wonder if he's actually here
- 5:24and some maybe in bars are Jupiter.
- 5:26Because sometimes I don't even think he's listening to me.
- 5:28But what are you doing, anyways, what do you doing?
- 5:31Am I doing? Yeah.
- 5:32What are you doing? Are you paying attention to this
- 5:34show? Are you just your heads up your
- 5:36ass? You're telling stories, I'm
- 5:38telling stories but you never pay attention to them.
- 5:40You're, you're in another world. I I have no idea.
- 5:43Sometimes where Speedy is Speedy is not here.
- 5:47Has anybody play Twister before as anybody played that game
- 5:51twister? Could you imagine Speedy playing
- 5:53twister seriously because he doesn't listen as it is.
- 5:57Could you imagine him try to twirl and find you know try to
- 6:00move maneuver his body around your legs or your scrotum.
- 6:04I mean Speedy would probably really be good at doing that but
- 6:07nevertheless, I I don't think he listens very well.
- 6:10So we'll see. Maybe we'll play Chutes and
- 6:13Ladders on this show. Oh yeah, I like Chutes and
- 6:16Ladders. I that's a gold.
- 6:17Yeah, I love old school. Oh, if you go, if you go to a
- 6:21Fourth of July and you have to make a choice, Are you a hot dog
- 6:26or a hamburger guy? Hamburger Burger!
- 6:28I'm a burger guy. And, and by the way, I'm
- 6:31pre-diabetic. Now, as my doctor told me the
- 6:33other day, so I gotta be away from all these sugar drinks.
- 6:37So what I'll be doing for the next four months is drinking.
- 6:40Yes, ladies and gentlemen, water with a little meal, you will not
- 6:44see me drink any more sugar drinks now.
- 6:47I can eat other things, but I've been very careful of the last 42
- 6:50hours, and I plan to stay that way because I went on that that
- 6:55trip. And I ate a lot of junk food and
- 6:57over the last couple of months, because the DJing season the
- 7:01entertainment season has begun, I go to these parties here.
- 7:04I scream this candy, there's cake and I love that.
- 7:08I'm a sweet type of person. And, you know, I got caught up
- 7:12but I I'm sure I can get the numbers down.
- 7:14But obviously. Are you a tea drinker?
- 7:16No, I'm not. I don't like hot drinks.
- 7:19I don't like coffee. I don't like tea.
- 7:21I don't like, you can have cold tea like like yeah.
- 7:25I don't like the taste of it. I just there's something about
- 7:28the taste and when I was a kid, when I was sick, my my father
- 7:32always stuck T down my throat, and it made me hate it.
- 7:35Just like I hate gravy. Everybody asked me when gravy's
- 7:38out with potatoes and and turkey, I agree.
- 7:41I can't eat gravy because what my grandmother used to do.
- 7:44When I was a kid, is she is like Italian off the boat Italian.
- 7:49She used to stick gravy potatoes and turkey in front of my face
- 7:54and make me drink a cup of milk after my meal and I couldn't.
- 7:58Yeah, my grandmother. That's a very that's an Italian
- 8:01thing. You anytime.
- 8:03Anytime you have a meal, they always stick milk in front of
- 8:06your face, and you gotta drink it, and I was not always after
- 8:10the meal, though. It, you could trick it during
- 8:12the meal. Would you like to mix milk and
- 8:15turkey and mashed potatoes or any of that garbage and make you
- 8:18sick? And I I would sit at the table
- 8:21after and I want to barf because I had that that that that gravy
- 8:24taste in my mouth. So I I hate gravy every time I
- 8:26look at gravy, I want to hurl it is disgusting.
- 8:29It makes me sick to my stomach. So everybody if you're
- 8:33celebrating Fourth of July and you see gravy on the table,
- 8:36don't think of me, that's all I'm going to say.
- 8:39Don't think of me because if you do you probably imagine me throw
- 8:43up all over that table because I get sick to my stomach.
- 8:45So do you watch the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest?
- 8:48Always oh I love. I mean the way they get fired
- 8:53up. I it it's it's a great way to
- 8:55start because it's early in the morning so you're getting stuff
- 8:58done. It's just a great way to start.
- 9:00When they bring the dudes in and you got book of Badlands, he's
- 9:03rapping. You got all kinds of and that's
- 9:06just Joey chestnuts, she's not. That's what I don't call him.
- 9:10Chestnuts, I go on Jesus nuts. And we saw Joey Chestnut
- 9:13actually at the Super Bowl actually fish.
- 9:17Walked up to him, notice him and just like announced him and he
- 9:23asked Chestnut if he wants to come on our show one of these
- 9:25days. Maybe we'll reach out to Joey
- 9:27Chestnut and see if you would be interested in jumping on his
- 9:31show. After the Fourth of July, you
- 9:33know, hot dog, eating contest but that's cool.
- 9:35I I think anything. Let's let's make a fun
- 9:39prediction. I say he wins, but let's let's
- 9:41make a guess. And it's and then, if who's ever
- 9:45in our in the chat to, let me look, let them in whoever gets
- 9:49the closest. We'll do something.
- 9:50All right. How about this?
- 9:51I'm gonna predict 72. Hot dogs poop says 68, fish, has
- 9:5664. I'm gonna go 70, I'm gonna go
- 10:0072. Speedy. 65.
- 10:03All right, Jake already took 65. All right, I'll one up six, six,
- 10:07six and I got. So we got two.
- 10:11So we got anywhere from 64 to set.
- 10:14You had 72, right? Yes, 72.
- 10:17Perfect. Yeah, it'll be fun.
- 10:18I'm interested to see what's going to happen.
- 10:20Speaking of what's Happening. Well, the New York Knicks,
- 10:24finally, Pick their coach. It's been a crazy ride for the
- 10:30last month after the season. They fired Tom Thibodeau within
- 10:3448 hours after they get eliminated by the Pacers and
- 10:37people were questioning do the Knicks actually know what
- 10:41they're doing. ESPN reports that the Knicks
- 10:44have hired Mike Brown as their new and next.
- 10:48Hey, Coach Brown was recently fired by the Kings 31 games into
- 10:52the season but led the Kings to their first playoff appearance
- 10:56in 16 years in 2023 where they have, I'm sorry where they had
- 11:02the number one offense in the NBA, Brown is a two-time coach
- 11:06of the year winning with the kings that season in 2023 and
- 11:11all. So, with the Cavaliers in 2009,
- 11:13Brown made one NBA final appearance with the Cavaliers in
- 11:172007 and also won four NBA titles as an assistant coach
- 11:22with the Spurs. And the Warriors Brown was the
- 11:25only That got multiple interviews with the Knicks after
- 11:29meeting with James Dolan, and Leon Rose yesterday,
- 11:31Timberwolves, assistant coach Makai, Nori Pelicans assistant,
- 11:37coach James Borrego, and former Grizzlies head coach, Taylor
- 11:41Jenkins where the only other coaches to get interviews.
- 11:45By the Knicks Brown has 454 career wins and a 0.599 career
- 11:54winning percentage among active coaches that have Coach multiple
- 11:59Seasons, only Joe, Missoula. And Steve Kerr have a higher
- 12:04winning percentage then Mr. Mike Brown, I was shocked.
- 12:09I was shocked. That the next pick.
- 12:12Mike Brown. I'm not gonna lie to you guys.
- 12:14Now, do I think he's a bad hire? I trust in Leon Rose.
- 12:18Leon Rose is made a lot of different decisions over the
- 12:22last couple of years and he's made the right ones.
- 12:24He brought Jalen Brunson in for 58 million dollars.
- 12:27Now, he's the captain. He's missed their clutch.
- 12:29Am I gonna take shots at Leon Rose when he made that move?
- 12:32Know. He gave RJ.
- 12:34Barrett extension used RJ Barrett to get OG on an obj?
- 12:37I know he is one of the best Wing defenders in the league, a
- 12:41Kawhi Leonard prototype. Now he has been very good when
- 12:45he has been healthy. So is that a home run?
- 12:47Absolutely. He signed obviously a guy like
- 12:51Robinson Mitchell Robinson to a 64 years. 60 to 63 million
- 12:56dollar. Contract is Mitchell Robinson.
- 12:58One of the best centers in the league when healthy I would
- 13:01believe he is now he's not an offensive player, he's one of
- 13:04the better rebounder so offensive rebounders in a league
- 13:06and one of the best blockers in the league and rim protectors.
- 13:09So was that a bad move? No.
- 13:12He made the trade for Karl, Anthony Towns.
- 13:15Now is Karl Anthony towns. One of the best offensive, big
- 13:18men in the league? Yes.
- 13:19Does he work? Well well with Jalen Brunson
- 13:22when they're both on the court know because both of them, don't
- 13:25play a lick a defense but that is why I believe.
- 13:30They made the move to bring in Mike Brown.
- 13:33And here's the reason why Mike Brown is a different style of
- 13:37Coach. He is a defensive minded coach
- 13:39as Tom Thibodeau was a defensive minded coach but what makes?
- 13:43Mike Brown a little bit more interesting when it comes to
- 13:46defense, he plays, man. That's what he does.
- 13:48He sometimes uses the Zone zone defense but mainly plays man
- 13:53that means if Mikhail Bridges and he sets up mikal Bridges to
- 13:58defend Tyrese helper in the whole game.
- 14:00That's what Michelle Bridges is going to defend the whole game.
- 14:04There's no changing up, there's no rotation, it's not of that.
- 14:08It's man on man and that lady. And gentleman is the reason why
- 14:13Indiana beat the New York Knicks in the Eastern Conference
- 14:18Finals. But you'll look back of all the
- 14:21coaches over the last couple of years with the New York next and
- 14:24how much they have fell Jeff hornacek.
- 14:27Being one of them Jeff hornacek was a good.
- 14:30He was Decent NBA player. He was a three-point shooter, he
- 14:34played on that Utah. Jazz team with John Stockton and
- 14:38Karl Malone went to a couple of finals but choked and he was a
- 14:42terrible head coach with the New York Knicks.
- 14:44Derek Fisher, who likes to sleep around with other people's wives
- 14:48and girlfriends. Derek Fisher.
- 14:50He won a couple of titles with the Lakers Kobe Bryant Shaquille
- 14:54O'Neal. He got his first coaching job
- 14:56with the Knicks and within years.
- 14:59And I mean years because it was really two and a half years.
- 15:01He was fired. I wonder if the Knicks are still
- 15:04paying him so because he's never gotten another job.
- 15:06And then you got you go through the line of guys that have
- 15:10succeeded. Charles Woodson.
- 15:12What's a good? He was a good head coach, he
- 15:15really was. Now the problem with Charles
- 15:18Woodson was, he didn't have the fans, you know, respect he was a
- 15:24good coach but he wasn't that bright like coach.
- 15:27She wasn't that name in The Stars where everybody says all
- 15:30we Got Charles Woodson. He wasn't like that.
- 15:33Now Phil Jackson we thought by bringing him in as to GM, or
- 15:36whatever. President of the organization,
- 15:38you would have thought that Phil Jackson One Way or Another
- 15:41because of how bad the Knicks have been coached over the last,
- 15:44you know, 20 years. He was going to come in and take
- 15:48over the coaching duties. It didn't work.
- 15:50It didn't work with Phil Jackson's.
- 15:51A matter of fact he was falling asleep at the combine when he
- 15:54was trying to scout players. So it didn't work with Phil. but
- 15:59over the years, The Knicks have been up and down with head,
- 16:03coaches. Tom Thibodeau was a successful
- 16:05coach with the New York Knicks, nobody's taking that away from
- 16:08him. The problem with Tom is, you
- 16:11could never get over the hump. He went as far as he could with
- 16:14the Timberwolves, he did. And he only went to the semis
- 16:17with the Timberwolves could never get to the Western
- 16:20Conference Finals with the Timberwolves.
- 16:21He went what Chicago to the finals and who did he bump into
- 16:25he bumped into the Miami Heat and with LeBron, James and
- 16:30Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh and Ray Allen.
- 16:33It was never going to work. They were never going to get
- 16:35over the hump. And that was really the last
- 16:38year. Derek Rose was really as Elite
- 16:40as he was when he came into the league, the problem over the
- 16:44years with the New York Knicks is the transitional players that
- 16:49they bring in and how the coaches do not work with those
- 16:52players mikal Bridges after the season as I heard, When in to
- 16:58the executives with Leon Rose, James Dolan, and worldwide, West
- 17:02and relate. His thoughts to the organization
- 17:05and where he thinks the organization is heading.
- 17:07If they keep it at all, he was the guy and I believe he was the
- 17:12first that opened up his mouth and said he's tired.
- 17:16He was tired. Now, this is the same guy
- 17:18Mikhail Bridges who the Knicks traded for five first round
- 17:21draft picks. Five of them.
- 17:24To bring him from the the Brooklyn Nets to the New York
- 17:26Knicks. Mikhail Bridges was a big part
- 17:29of the first and second round of the playoffs.
- 17:32And then what happened in the third round in the Easter
- 17:35Conference Finals? He fell off.
- 17:36Why? Probably because he was tired
- 17:39and that is the problem right now with the New York Knicks and
- 17:42it's been the problem with the New York Knicks year in.
- 17:45And year out, Tom tip at all, where is these guys out?
- 17:48And it doesn't even matter to him.
- 17:50He will play seven, guys, all season.
- 17:53If you look at the Knicks starters, all five starters were
- 17:56in the top 11 in the league with minutes played in games in the
- 18:02regular season. That is a problem.
- 18:04I don't care what anybody says, look at Josh Hart.
- 18:07So out the playoffs, it looked like as the playoffs move
- 18:10forward, he was getting tired and he wasn't the same player.
- 18:13He wasn't that defensive offensive player that the Knicks
- 18:17were expecting to get from either in the starting lineup or
- 18:21even coming off the benches to six or seventh guy.
- 18:24Off the Bench. He wasn't that guy in the
- 18:26finals. Why?
- 18:27Because he was tired, then he was making mistakes.
- 18:29He was fouling people and he was putting himself and putting the
- 18:32Knicks in bad positions to succeed, Mike Brown, I think
- 18:35will be a decent fit. Now I don't know what Mike
- 18:39Brown's gonna be in New York, but he is a winner everywhere.
- 18:42He's gone, he's won. You could say whatever you want,
- 18:45it's not easy winning, an NBA championship is Mike Brown a
- 18:49guy, I think he's better than Joel Missoula.
- 18:51Joe Missoula, took over for Brad Stevens and Duke.
- 18:55What is a gold guy? I always mess up his name.
- 18:59He used in hey coach because he was playing with somebody else's
- 19:01woman. Yeah, but it's seems like that
- 19:04that's the trend right now with coaches and Executives.
- 19:06As we all know, Isaiah Thomas was doing that as well, but but
- 19:11the fact is The New York Knicks needed to make a move.
- 19:16That makes sense. Now, Leon Rose over the last
- 19:21couple years, I'll go back to what I was just saying in the
- 19:23beginning of the monologue, everything he's touched
- 19:26practically, he's hit Their slam dunks.
- 19:31Now, Mike Brown coming in from multiple interviews, tells me
- 19:36that he very much impressed, worldwide West and Leon Rose.
- 19:39Nobody cares about James Dolan. Nobody gives a crap about what
- 19:43James Dolan is doing. Except when he goes on a mic and
- 19:46he plays his stupid guitar and his Fiddler.
- 19:48He's Fiddler on a roof when he's over there at Madison Square
- 19:50Garden. Do we really care about that
- 19:52either, though? No, but when you have a career
- 19:55winning percentage of 5.99 that ladies and gentlemen, tells me
- 20:00that he is a quality head coach. Now, will the Knicks win with my
- 20:05brown, only time will tell Madison Square Garden is going
- 20:08to be very loud about this. When he gets introduced probably
- 20:11on Monday because they're not gonna introduce him on the
- 20:14weekend because it's Fourth of July to Holiday expected to be
- 20:17on Monday, when they introduced Mike Brown, he's not going to be
- 20:20the world beater that everybody wanted.
- 20:22They were a lot of people that wanted the kid and and and
- 20:26somebody like him was a guy that was coaching right onto Tom
- 20:31Capital and that was I think I was messed up his name.
- 20:33Johnny Bryant Johnny Bryant is a is a guy that has been a
- 20:38successful defensive mind with the New York Knicks with Tom
- 20:41Thibodeau. He was the second guy over the
- 20:44first two or three years with the New York Knicks before he
- 20:46decided to go and part ways with the Knicks and go over there to
- 20:49Cleveland to work with Kenny Atkinson everybody.
- 20:52Thought John Bryant was the guy then Mike Malone he gets fired
- 20:56before three games or four games before the playoffs.
- 20:58He was the big sexy name that every Nick fan wanted.
- 21:02He didn't even get an interview the next day didn't even
- 21:05interview him so, obviously the next had no thoughts.
- 21:08So bringing in a guy of that magnitude.
- 21:11The reason why I think Mike Malone didn't get an interview,
- 21:14is a lot of people compare his, his coaching ability to atom,
- 21:19tippo an aggressive guy, that doesn't really say much and he
- 21:23placed that shift. And that rotating defense, that
- 21:27didn't work here in New York. But again, Mike On to different
- 21:31style of Coach. The way he runs his offense,
- 21:33he's gonna be a different style of offense.
- 21:35The pick-and-roll at the top of the key will probably be
- 21:38changed. You'll probably move and spread
- 21:41out the offense. He's going to play like a
- 21:43triangle offense, like Steve Kerr did in the Spurs.
- 21:45He comes from the Spurs organization Gregg Popovich,
- 21:49she's going to run a triangle style of offense.
- 21:51It's not going to be completely a triangle, but a triangle style
- 21:55of offense. And why does that work with the
- 21:58Knicks? Well, one of the main reasons
- 21:59why is Jalen Bronson? He's a one-on-one player, he's
- 22:02an isolation player and that ladies and gentlemen, is what
- 22:06you can use during a triangle type of offense, Steph Curry,
- 22:09Klay Thompson even Kevin Durant. When he was over there over
- 22:14there in Golden State, that's what they like to run.
- 22:17They were either running you offense to Kevin Durant, Steph
- 22:19Curry or Klay Thompson. Whoever was hot and whoever was
- 22:22not the guy they were running offense, too.
- 22:25I just think that that's the way.
- 22:27The Knicks are going to play their offense.
- 22:29That's the way they're going to run their offense.
- 22:31Again, I am not excited with this higher, but when you look
- 22:35at his numbers and as you put it up Speedy, very nicely 5.99% and
- 22:41he's only behind Joe, Missoula, and Steve Kerr over the last but
- 22:45a couple years among active head coaches right now, in the end, I
- 22:48mean that says a lot about his coaching style, he was also in a
- 22:52western conference with Sacramento.
- 22:54Sacramento had a young deer and fox and a sabonis and he was
- 23:00the, I think he was the guy that decided to part ways with Tyrese
- 23:03Albert. I'm not sure he was hired.
- 23:06I think slightly after that. Yeah.
- 23:07So I I think that when you look at the position that the Knicks
- 23:12have put themselves in, especially in the Eastern
- 23:16Conference, when the Celtics are not going to have Tatum probably
- 23:19until the end of season, maybe not at all next year and they're
- 23:22not making any big moves. They traded poor singing, they
- 23:24traded obviously, Drew holiday. They're going to play what they
- 23:28have right now and then you have the Cavaliers The Cavaliers have
- 23:32done really nothing. They had a couple of pieces but
- 23:35nothing exciting. This is going to be the same
- 23:38Cavalier team and by the way who play, who worked with Kenny
- 23:42Atkinson a couple of years and now was Mike Brown, who knows?
- 23:47Kenny Atkinson more than Mike Brown.
- 23:48Mike Brown knows his style. He knows what he likes to run,
- 23:51he knows how he runs his offense.
- 23:53He runs his defense. So I know Jalen Bronson and Josh
- 23:58Hart wanted to keep Tom table. There were those guys what I
- 24:00heard were the only two guys that were vouching for, Tom
- 24:04thibodeau's return next to this coming season.
- 24:06The problem is as good as both those players are and as
- 24:10talented as Jalen Brunson is, I think the organization wanted to
- 24:15move forward with another coach, that would give them a better
- 24:18chance to make that run to the finals, which they haven't done
- 24:22since 1999. Yeah.
- 24:24We talk about all the time. A lot of these veteran NBA
- 24:26coaches have just been dismissed randomly by certain teams over
- 24:29the years, because it's become like, last 10 years, obviously,
- 24:32a player run league. And there's a lot of these
- 24:34surprising firings that do end up happening and Mike Brown, I
- 24:37think was a victim of that with Sacramento this past season, the
- 24:39king started off at slow, they started 13 and 18 and it wasn't
- 24:43all their fault. And we were talking about
- 24:44before, the show Scott Perry's in the front office and that
- 24:47front office is not very well run as it is.
- 24:49Ivy, they haven't been able to sign players.
- 24:51They haven't been able to keep players on that team.
- 24:53Like you said, they traded Halliburton and they got some
- 24:55bonus, which was nice. But again, it hasn't gotten them
- 24:58besides the one season, which Mike Brown was coach of the year
- 25:00to be that team of the future. I thought they would be evolving
- 25:03into that. The next year, I picked him in
- 25:04the Western Conference Finals that year, it didn't announce
- 25:06anything and obviously gets fired.
- 25:08And kind of skate goaded by the Sacramento Kings.
- 25:11Just a really bad front office. And I talked about with Rick
- 25:13Carlisle, too, and I don't think I see, he's recall out good,
- 25:16obviously, but Rick Carla house. Had to change his coaching
- 25:19Style. To adapt to the young players
- 25:21with Indiana when he got fired from Dallas and obviously didn't
- 25:25work out with Luka doncic as he had to change.
- 25:27And I talked about that in football, too.
- 25:28With Jim Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh going from the NFL to college
- 25:31back to the NFL, I think Mike Brown, is that type of
- 25:33adaptation? Because he's learned with the
- 25:35Spurs who at the time, he was kind of a veteran team in the
- 25:38Warrior. That were kind of a younger team
- 25:40in transition when he won with the championship, in 22, before
- 25:43he got the king's head coaching job.
- 25:45So I think he's a little bit of an adaptation type coach as
- 25:47well, that can work with the Knicks.
- 25:49Back court type of presence which is similar to the Golden
- 25:52State Warriors to back court type of Pros.
- 25:54Now, the Warriors are more offense driven the next probably
- 25:56more defensive driven in the backcourt but Jalen Brunson
- 25:58spaces the floor. Very well, just like Steph
- 26:00Curry, did you got Klay Thompson?
- 26:023D guy? OG 3D Guy.
- 26:04This is a very similar type structure to what he could bring
- 26:07to the concepts of the Warriors. I could see why they bought
- 26:10Jordan Clarkson. And I think they knew Mike Brown
- 26:12was gonna get hired because of the way, Jordan Clarkson likes
- 26:15to run through the office now. Jordan Clarkson is good.
- 26:18Shooter is a good offensive player.
- 26:20He Doesn't play a lick of Defense.
- 26:21I think what the Knicks are going to do now is they're going
- 26:24to use Mitchell Robinson, Mitchell Robinson, don't be
- 26:27surprised. Now, if you see Mike Brown start
- 26:29Mitchell, Robinson and Karl Anthony towns.
- 26:31They move call, Anthony towns to the four.
- 26:33Mitchell Robinson will be playing the five, and all Mitch
- 26:36is going to be doing throughout the season.
- 26:38As long as he stays healthy is guard the hole.
- 26:41That's what they're gonna do with them.
- 26:42Make sure that he's an offensive rebounding machine, which he,
- 26:45obviously, if you remember this Spurs and what the when he was
- 26:48over there with this birds and what Mike Brown, that's what the
- 26:51Spurs were doing with their big man and then the same thing what
- 26:54we saw over the years with the Golden State Warriors, when they
- 26:57were using their big men, they were using and I'm not talking
- 26:59about train my green, it was Looney there.
- 27:02I mean Looney was the type of guy that was just guarding the
- 27:05hole and he was rebounding. That's what they used them for
- 27:07in a shot blocker Mitchell Robertson's a better player a
- 27:11better big man and I think that's what you gonna see more
- 27:13with Mike Brown. What you did not see with Tom
- 27:16tibeto over the last, I would say two years even with the big
- 27:19men that have when they had pressures There.
- 27:20And they had Mitchell Robinson. They were not doing that.
- 27:23They weren't running. They're all their defense like
- 27:25that. I think it's going to be
- 27:26different when Mike Brown because he's gonna play Man
- 27:28defense and that helps call Anthony towns.
- 27:31And it helps a guy like Jalen Brunson.
- 27:34Two guys that don't play a lick of Defense.
- 27:36Yeah. And also, you think, oh good.
- 27:37I'm gonna say, I was emphasized, the ball movement aspect because
- 27:41he comes from the Spurs, and it's gonna be a triangle
- 27:43offense, they like to move the ball.
- 27:44It's gonna be a pass friendly office motion, motion motion
- 27:48softball motion. That's the biggest thing.
- 27:50I think that Golden State doesn't get enough credit.
- 27:52For I just said, oh, it's just the three-point shooting, if
- 27:54they're off ball motion, they move away from the ball.
- 27:57That makes the Golden State Warriors offense.
- 27:59Tough to defend and the Spurs were the same, kind of way the
- 28:01Spurs probably emphasize more of an inside game with theirs.
- 28:03I see, Tim Duncan with the mid-range shooting and the guys
- 28:06are quieter with the mid-race shooting, when he developed his
- 28:08game more, but they always emphasize ball movement.
- 28:10They always it wasn't the isolation offense, not that they
- 28:12couldn't do it on occasion. But that was the thing that I
- 28:15think the Knicks are lacking at certain points too, where the
- 28:17Knicks is with their wings during the postseason were Can
- 28:20offensively. That's why OG had his
- 28:22disappearing access certain point.
- 28:24It was the defense, which is it was absolutely the defense and
- 28:27the transitional defense that Tom Thibodeau was running in the
- 28:31playoffs that pissed off, Leon, Rose and worldwide West.
- 28:34I don't know if anybody watched the second round of the playoffs
- 28:37and had a chance to see Leon rose on the sidelines when he
- 28:41was out there. And when the Knicks were falling
- 28:43behind the faces, he was making by the transitional defense, it
- 28:47was bad. It was really really bad and the
- 28:50Knicks got out of this second round and they actually as much
- 28:53as everybody thought that they dominated the Celtics, the
- 28:56Celtics had a chance besides that the three or four games
- 29:00that the Knicks came back from the Celtics had a chance to win
- 29:03this series, it wasn't in a complete blow, I even know the
- 29:06next one. What was it?
- 29:06Four games to two. I the Celtics probably if the
- 29:11Celtics didn't choke the way they did and two or three of
- 29:14those games the Celtics win the series and it wasn't even it
- 29:17wouldn't have even been any clothes the Nicks Came back
- 29:21because of what they did in the fourth quarter, it was really
- 29:24the luck of the draw. I don't think Mike Brown's.
- 29:26That type of Coach Mike Brown is going to play with the lead and
- 29:29he's gonna use his guys to do the things defensively that he
- 29:33likes to do and how he runs his defense.
- 29:35Yeah. And you mentioned in Black Men
- 29:37inside too. Like, I think the random guy
- 29:38he's gotten work even in San Antonio, not even just 10.
- 29:40Duncan Boris D out. Tiago Splitter, he coached over
- 29:43there were good rebounders Golden State, you mentioned with
- 29:45Looney too, was a guy who's got 10 points, like 20, rebounds at
- 29:48a game sometimes too. That's what they mixed out of
- 29:50the death of their big men. So do you think too like in?
- 29:54In the picking of a coach is kind of what personal you're
- 29:57working with or like you you brought in Jordan Clarkson and
- 30:00and how that pertains to Mike Brown.
- 30:02Do you think in any of that like as seeing the personnel and what
- 30:06you have and what you saw that could have worked it worked at
- 30:10times, but didn't do it enough. Do you think that played a part
- 30:12in who they were picking and how they went about it in kind of
- 30:17the manner of like, hey, this is kind of what we saw.
- 30:20This is kind of what we want to do and did that play a part in
- 30:24basically the final decision to bring Mike Brown Absol?
- 30:27Lutely. And I'm going to tell you this
- 30:29right now before they, they announced that Mike Brown was
- 30:31going to be hired by the Knicks, they went to jail in Bronson.
- 30:34They went to Josh Hart, they went to McKell Bridges.
- 30:36They went to call Anthony towns. They wanted to ask all their
- 30:39Stars, if this was going to work, if if this fit was going
- 30:44to work and before, and I'm saying before they even
- 30:47announced, Mike Brown was going to be the coach today.
- 30:49I think they already knew at five days ago, and that's why
- 30:52they brought in Jordan Clarkson. Like you said, absolutely why
- 30:55they brought in joining? Clarkson is because Mike Brown,
- 30:58probably knew, and wanted a guy like Jordan Clarkson to come to
- 31:02the next and be his second secondary point guard.
- 31:05Because I do believe now that you bring in Mike, Brown,
- 31:08they're moving miles McBride, they're absolutely moving him.
- 31:12There's no reason why they're going to keep three guards that
- 31:15a plane, the point on this roster, Mike Brown.
- 31:17And by the way, the one thing I could tell you about Mike Brown,
- 31:20he likes to play young guys. That's something that Tom tip
- 31:22but oh does not like to do Mike. Brown does like to do that if
- 31:26you remember on the Cleveland The leaders, there were
- 31:29practically all young players on that roster, with LeBron James
- 31:33and all those other guys. A lot of the young players got a
- 31:36chance to play and he rotated his offense through 13 to 14
- 31:39guys. I expect the Knicks to use
- 31:42between 13 and 14 guys. All season Jalen Brunson is not
- 31:47going to be playing 45, 444 minutes.
- 31:50I I could see Jalen Brunson playing 36 37 Karl, Anthony
- 31:54towns playing 35 36, that's where they're gonna be playing.
- 31:58He's not gonna run these guys out there and run him out early
- 32:01in the season and where they're huffing and puffing and they're
- 32:04not ready for the playoffs. That's not the way.
- 32:06Mike Brown likes to run his offense and his defense.
- 32:08It's a different offense and it's a different way.
- 32:11He's going to be coaching moving forward for the New York Knicks.
- 32:14I disagree a little arrow with what tibeto did to this team and
- 32:18what why Brown's gonna be different right?
- 32:20They're both defensive coaches, they're both notorious hard
- 32:23asses Brown for his way out of Sacramento after getting coach
- 32:26of the year. Because he couldn't stop going
- 32:28after Darren Fox for being lazy and just like telling him that
- 32:33this you got to see in this game and he would like put them on
- 32:35blast in the media. Tibbs never did that to his guys
- 32:38in the media. But let's face it, he's gonna
- 32:41coach him hard. It is there any team ready for a
- 32:44team that's going to be for a coach?
- 32:45That's gonna coach him hard. It's a team that just had Tibbs.
- 32:47So I'm not worried about that from Jalen Brunson in the crew.
- 32:51I think they're actually going to take to him very well.
- 32:52They, they're the type of group of guys that can take that
- 32:55constructive criticism because no one's harder on Brunson than
- 32:58himself, right? The Aaron Fox, not the same guy,
- 33:00let's face it, but that's, that's the thing.
- 33:03The thing about the playing them until they were tired, I
- 33:06disagree with that. I think the thing that Tibbs did
- 33:09that was so wrong, was that he played him so much.
- 33:11He never got the bench minutes to the point where the guys like
- 33:15heart and all the other piece is knew where the backup players
- 33:20were going to be in the defense of rotation.
- 33:22They didn't know where they're supposed to space when they were
- 33:25on transition. So that's why the transition.
- 33:27Offense look like crap. You're gonna tell me putting
- 33:29guys out there, tell me what you're doing.
- 33:31You're gonna tell me a bunch of professional players that have
- 33:34played in the NBA multiple years, don't know where they're
- 33:36playing and how 100% even 100% if you haven't played all year
- 33:40with this thing. You don't that's bored, no way,
- 33:43no way. Bulshit they don't practice very
- 33:45much during the regular know that they don't have time, they
- 33:48have game after game. After game, I have every
- 33:51morning. They practice every couple of
- 33:53weeks. They have a real practice.
- 33:54They practice, they have walkthroughs.
- 33:56That's a practice and they're running.
- 33:58It's not. It is you can tell me you don't
- 34:01learn how to get Space. Tell me all of you that we've
- 34:06had on on our show telling me every day.
- 34:08One would agree with this. I just can't come in cold.
- 34:12I never play, I just now you're sticking up for top tip, but oh,
- 34:18makeup was wrong. No, you're wrong.
- 34:22Because you telling me Mike Brown at top tip at all, ah,
- 34:26practically a safe type of coach.
- 34:27They're not. Not what I'm saying.
- 34:28Same time Wiley. It's a hard ass.
- 34:37Pop that great. Popovich was a hard-ass.
- 34:40The only reason why he was nice after he changed what Todd with
- 34:44Tim Duncan came to the team asked the Admiral Howe, Popovich
- 34:48coached him over the years before?
- 34:49Tim Duncan came into the bed. Came into the came, on the
- 34:53roster. Oh, I know and brown worked for
- 34:55Popovich and learned Championship ways in that kind
- 34:58of style of coaching. The only problem here.
- 35:01That's the only is so different though Brown and how he plays
- 35:04the young, guys, you mentioned it Darryl.
- 35:06That's the big difference. Now, what you saw tips doing in
- 35:09the playoffs was the equivalent of how I used to get chewed out
- 35:12as a JV football coach of drawing plays up in the dirt.
- 35:15Because when you haven't gotten guys like Speedy, help recover
- 35:21the lawn, right? Did he play at all for like, a
- 35:24month and a half? Yeah, it, you know, he came in,
- 35:27gave them energy to first game, he was in.
- 35:29And guess what? By the time those guys are in
- 35:32after a while, if they have to play with the starters, they
- 35:34haven't played with them in practice.
- 35:35The guys, in practice to stars are playing with.
- 35:37The stars are going against some of these backups when it comes
- 35:40to actually playing with them in the rotation in the, in the
- 35:44second quarter in the late, third quarter, early fourth
- 35:46quarter, you saw the Knicks just not able to do it.
- 35:49Tibbs didn't want to play that line up and brown will.
- 35:52So I think that's why they went with him.
- 35:54I am excited about it. I think that he's going to get
- 35:57the bench ready and there's just one other thing that has to be
- 36:01mentioned about this. No one coaches guys harder than
- 36:06tips. No one plays guys more minutes
- 36:08than tips, whoever they come from, that's going to be next.
- 36:12It's going to feel like they're on vacation that they have all
- 36:15this energy at the end of the season.
- 36:17It's going to be so much better from that part.
- 36:19You're saying Errol! That's true.
- 36:21Maybe it'll keep guys happier. Will it make them?
- 36:23I don't think, I think the bigger problem was that he was
- 36:26basically drawing it up in the dirt with guys that he never
- 36:28played. That's my thing.
- 36:30Yeah, you know I also look at like with Mike Brown.
- 36:32I think the familiarity aspect of bumping around different
- 36:34teams too and still getting respect across the league too.
- 36:37So something that I think this next team definitely get needs
- 36:40to get to obviously I think they get respected across the league.
- 36:43I think they're now established. It's not the laughing stock
- 36:45Nicks that they were five years ago and stuff like that.
- 36:47But I think from the player standpoint too trying to take
- 36:50that next step to want to guys to want to come there because
- 36:53the Knicks are doing that now Jalen Brunson has been doing
- 36:55that since he's gotten there, they got Bridges, they got out
- 36:58of me. This is all like these are the
- 37:00Homegrown teams that you're seeing all the time, all you're
- 37:02building the same core all the time.
- 37:03This is a team that a lot of Trades at a lot of new piece.
- 37:05The Knick fans are not happy with this move.
- 37:08I everything that I've read on social media.
- 37:11They're not happy. I think they were probably have
- 37:14you think they wanted? I don't know, obviously, it was
- 37:17probably Brian's. That's, that's the way I think
- 37:19that's crazy. He was coaching the year two
- 37:22years ago. Yeah, he was coaching the year,
- 37:24two years ago. He is by far the most qualified
- 37:28guy out there. Is not a sexy name but neither
- 37:31was tips. It's the type of guy that makes
- 37:33this Leon Rose group who we should all have faith.
- 37:36Yes, that's the one thing I believe, right?
- 37:39That's the one thing I believe in his Leon Rose knows what he's
- 37:41doing. He's not an idiot and he knows
- 37:43that if Mike Brown came in and he wound him which he probably
- 37:47did. He understood what this team is
- 37:49all about? And again Jalen Brunson isn't
- 37:52Steph Curry, he's not but what Jalen Bronson does very well?
- 37:56Is he understands how to draw fouls and go to the hole and
- 38:01make plays in the open court? That's something like Mike Brown
- 38:04likes to do. He likes to create spaces and
- 38:07and understands what what Jalen Brunson strengths are.
- 38:10And what obviously the other players like call Anthony towns
- 38:13is as a big man on what he does. Very good.
- 38:16The one thing I could say about Karl, Anthony towns this off
- 38:19season, he needs to clean up is stop shooting those 60 or 70
- 38:23foot jumpers at the three-point line, that is not going to work.
- 38:26If the Knicks plan to run, Again with the same roster they have
- 38:31right now, they have to get call Anthony towns, more involved
- 38:36offensively and run the offense sometimes through him.
- 38:40It was mainly run through Jalen Brunson and then when call
- 38:44Anthony towns was the only guy on the court when it was the
- 38:47other. The only big time Superstar on
- 38:49the court, it was run through him.
- 38:50So I want to see both guys work together and they'll be able to
- 38:54run the offense to each and every one of them.
- 38:57If need be if one's hotter than the other Tom Thibodeau.
- 39:00Even when Jalen Brunson was not hot.
- 39:02He was still running the offense through jail and Bronson he
- 39:06needs to. If somebody is hot run through
- 39:09that guy if mikal Bridges is hotter than Jalen Bronson and
- 39:12he's hotter than calling Anthony towns, run the offense to mikal
- 39:16Bridges. If o g n o b is hotter than
- 39:18every single one of those guys call Anthony towns and and Jalen
- 39:22Brunson run your offense to OG. I I remember and I against the
- 39:26Celtics, I don't know if it was game for a game five.
- 39:29The next Corner, hit a lick and in the fourth quarter, osiyan
- 39:33and Opie hit like six straight points.
- 39:34Remember that six straight points and then all of a sudden
- 39:37he decided the the Knick started to jail in Brunson came back and
- 39:43Jalen Brunson hasn't been on on the court for like three or four
- 39:45minutes. They started running the offense
- 39:47through him and said, oh, you know, be who was hot, that
- 39:51didn't make any sense and that's Tom Thibodeau, he has more
- 39:54trustees too much trust in jail in Bronson and Josh Hart by the
- 39:58way. How many times did we see Josh
- 40:00Hart? Take the ball off and try to go
- 40:02to the hole and make mistakes. While he was doing passed the
- 40:05ball, throw the ball away. That is not the way.
- 40:08Mike Brown likes to run his offense.
- 40:10I think it's gonna be a different style, what?
- 40:13We didn't see what Tom did over the last five years with Mike
- 40:16Brown. I think that's why the next dica
- 40:18with him and not go with Bryant or Jenkins because I thought
- 40:24they were more of Tom tip adult prototype, then a guy like Mike
- 40:28Brown, who's gonna play His own style, his own way.
- 40:31And like you said fish, I think that the Knicks, understand
- 40:34where they want to be, and where the Knicks have a chance to be
- 40:37next year is in the finals because the, the Eastern
- 40:41Conference is going to be the weakest it's ever been.
- 40:44There's too many injuries. How many times did we see it in
- 40:47the playoffs? How many guys went down in the
- 40:49playoffs? With the Achilles tendon injury?
- 40:52We saw it in every single series, seriously.
- 40:55We saw it. Mr. Dame time, he tore his
- 40:59Achilles. He could be out his for the
- 41:01season Jayson. Tatum tours to kill, he's out
- 41:03for probably the season and then obviously Tyrese Albertson,
- 41:07tearing his Achilles in the finals, he's out for the season.
- 41:10You're talking about superstars going down and it could be out
- 41:13for the season. And now the Knicks are sitting
- 41:16pretty because they're healthy, they're they were super healthy
- 41:19in the playoffs and now you have a chance where you're the you're
- 41:23the king of the hell. Now you're the team that people
- 41:25are going to want to beat in the Eastern Conference and the
- 41:28Cavaliers, they're choked artists.
- 41:30I I've seen enough of the Cavaliers over the last three
- 41:33seasons. No matter who the coach is, he
- 41:35didn't get any Atkinson who's a great coach.
- 41:37They're just have too many choke artists.
- 41:40When they get into the playoffs, they just are not the same team,
- 41:43they are in the regular season. Now it's not know.
- 41:45And he also look at the identity that the Knicks have brought
- 41:48they've had playoff series that have been good.
- 41:51Obviously obviously progressing from where they were in the past
- 41:54where they couldn't even win a serious most of the time, but
- 41:56But again, they still struggle a lot more than they should have.
- 41:59And I think that's the other identity that you want somebody,
- 42:01like, Mike Brown, who's under coaches and programs that have
- 42:05dominated playoff series too with the Spurs, and with the,
- 42:07with the Warriors too, the Knicks haven't had that sense of
- 42:10like, where is that consistent? Like, throttling sweep that
- 42:13we've seen in the playoffs, like, even the Piston Series
- 42:15this year was a six-game series and a lot of those games were
- 42:18closed, the Knicks. Had the physical endings with
- 42:20two of those games, obviously talents at the big shot.
- 42:22But again, it's not enough of it for the Nixon to be able to take
- 42:25that next step. Now, obviously we talked about
- 42:26all the parity in the NBA now where he haven't seen that level
- 42:29of dominance in one series even with OKC that won the title this
- 42:31year and a lot of seven games series but the Knicks have the
- 42:34talent and like you said the circumstances to make that next
- 42:37step with the Eastern Conference, being the Cavs them
- 42:40and who else do the Knicks fans want to see colic this year?
- 42:43Absolutely, the Knicks fans wanted to see colic all season
- 42:47last year and he barely played because Tom Thibodeau does not
- 42:50like to play. Young Players, is a ball handle
- 42:54or some people think that he's a cap.
- 42:56Why capable of being a starter on this team?
- 42:58If he earns a spot on this roster?
- 43:00Why why wouldn't Mike Brown? Give colic a chance if he gets
- 43:03hot shooting the ball. So he's at he's quite capable of
- 43:07moving, he's a great ball handler.
- 43:09By the way, I've seen his pre-workouts on the basketball
- 43:11court. When he practices, he's kind of
- 43:13like Steph Curry and that on that magnitude he goes out
- 43:16there. He's dribbling with two balls
- 43:18crossing over. We're two balls, he likes to
- 43:20practice using both hands and many different ways if you know
- 43:24what I mean. But nevertheless, I want to see
- 43:26colic play. I want to see what the Knicks
- 43:28have on their bench. These young players that they
- 43:30drafted. How about the two French kids
- 43:32that they're bringing in? Now I want to see these guys,
- 43:34they were on the national team for the France French team that
- 43:38when the silver in in the Olympics, these guys are
- 43:41actually good players. This French team, which is a lot
- 43:45of people think, besides Team, USA could be the elite team, the
- 43:48team that could be United States and in the next couple of years,
- 43:52that's what I want to see. I want to see John kids develop
- 43:55and Maybe become something something that we wouldn't
- 43:58believe they would be over the you know, after all these years
- 44:01of the next draft picks, and finding and searching these guys
- 44:04and falling short, quickly was a good player.
- 44:06That was a lien Rose guy and then Leon Rose traded him.
- 44:09And now RJ Barrett trade and they brought in Ocean and Opie.
- 44:12That was a big move for the New York next, developing him.
- 44:15I look at Obi toppin Obi top and played a big factor with the
- 44:19Indiana Pacers. It didn't work in New York
- 44:21because he didn't get along with Tom Thibodeau and then he goes
- 44:24over there, and Indiana and played a big factor as their six
- 44:28man Off the Bench when they needed at aggressive donker or
- 44:32that aggressive, you know, shot blocker Obi top and was there.
- 44:36I, I think this is what you want to see what Mike Brown.
- 44:39Speaking of the NBA offseason and this is going to be.
- 44:42This is been a crazy couple of days.
- 44:46The Grizzlies gave Jaron Jackson Jr.
- 44:49A five year 200 and 40 million dollar extension with a player
- 44:55player option. In 2029, it I'm gonna go through
- 44:59this first. Let's go through each and every
- 45:01one of these. Let's not even mention it.
- 45:03I Jaren, Jackson Jr. It's a great defender.
- 45:08He is not a 240 million dollar player.
- 45:13Anybody that believes that he is.
- 45:14Now, obviously if he doesn't get 240 million dollars from from
- 45:18them, he goes somewhere else and he gets to 20 or even 230 and
- 45:22he's still an elite defender in the NBA.
- 45:25The problem right now is with the Grizzlies and there's a lot
- 45:29of questions to who if John Moraine is actually going to
- 45:32last there. If the Grizzlies are going to
- 45:34decide, hey, you know what, we don't want to deal with his
- 45:36Antics. We're gonna move away from him,
- 45:37we don't want to deal with it. That's an interesting reason why
- 45:41I believe they, they brought back Jaron Jackson Jr.
- 45:45Not Jaron Jackson Jr. Is an old star.
- 45:47He's been an All-Star for the last two seasons, or even three
- 45:50seasons. He's a good player, he's a
- 45:52quality player, and he's a fan favorite.
- 45:54I just don't think he's a 250 million dollar player and that
- 45:58to me with the free agent Market, what we gonna say Arrow,
- 46:01there was some breaking news about him today that speeding
- 46:05get down right after he signed this deal.
- 46:09He had a non-affiliated with the team injury.
- 46:13He has a bad turf toe injury. It's hard.
- 46:16Shut me. Shut down for 12 weeks before
- 46:19they reevaluate him. If you don't know what turf toe,
- 46:22is that means you tore the ligaments in your big toe.
- 46:25That's what turf toe is. You probably have nerve damage
- 46:27as well. You may never get that feeling
- 46:31back and the full range of motion in that toe.
- 46:33So that's not a great way to start.
- 46:36Do you remember? I have your deal.
- 46:37Remember the last player that got an injury like this and was
- 46:40never the same player. Remember join Noah, remember
- 46:43him. Oh I remember.
- 46:45Well, Noah played for the Bulls. He had five great Seasons with
- 46:50the bulls but Derek Rose in that team.
- 46:52That was a good overall defensive and offensive team,
- 46:55Jimmy buckets was there and then what happened?
- 46:57He got turf toe and after that he was never the same player.
- 47:01The Knicks gave him an extension.
- 47:02He comes to the Knicks and how many games did he play with the
- 47:05Knicks? He played barely anything and
- 47:07now was a Phil Jackson side. Oh, Phil Jackson Jeff.
- 47:10So it doesn't work. I think this is a terrible
- 47:12injury and I'm very surprised that they didn't have a
- 47:16physical. They didn't give him a physical
- 47:17before this to give him to. It was the next day he did.
- 47:20He did it the next day like at some like pick up game.
- 47:24That's all that's unbelievable. Bad luck.
- 47:29Chris. Right?
- 47:30So Speedy, I don't think you had them written in a great order.
- 47:32So, I put them up here Arrow. The big news was the historic
- 47:35contract to Shea gilges Alexander.
- 47:37As far as guys that weren't going anywhere, have them split
- 47:40up. He's getting to have the highest
- 47:42annual value for contract, getting 71.25 million on average
- 47:48over the four year 285, max deal.
- 47:50Again, he wasn't drafted by the Thunder.
- 47:52Therefore, he's not eligible for the five year version of it.
- 47:55I will say this, I I think she deserves any money that gets
- 47:59offered every player. I know, I don't attack any
- 48:02players making their money, 71 million dollars.
- 48:04A year is a little ridiculous. The last player that I remember
- 48:07got that kind of NBA contract was Dane Dawn Dame time with
- 48:12poorly gave him a two-year 60 million a year.
- 48:15I think it was 120 million for 122 million for two years when I
- 48:19saw that number, I was like, this guy is making 60 million
- 48:21dollars and he's like 3233 years old.
- 48:24I I'll show you is a young guy. He's what 26 years old?
- 48:29He's not even in the prime of his career yet he's already won
- 48:33his first NBA title. He's won his first MVP.
- 48:35This guy is electrifying, he's a great defender, all around
- 48:39player, he's not a one-dimensional player.
- 48:41This guy is going to be around for a long, long time.
- 48:43And this is a cheap contract because just imagine what it's
- 48:47going to be two, three years down the road.
- 48:49What these Stars Are Gonna Get, You see him making 71, you're
- 48:53gonna see the next guy make about 80 or 90 million dollars a
- 48:56year. And we've been talking about
- 48:58this with the NFL. I I need Patrick Mahomes is
- 49:01taking less money over the last couple of years because he wants
- 49:05better players, and he wants his team to, to be a championship
- 49:08competitive team, Tom. Brady, too, we seen it.
- 49:10This Shea Alexander, he's not gonna take less money, but he is
- 49:14with basketball. If you have a player of this
- 49:17magnitude and you can run your offense through him, and
- 49:20remember they are a one-dimensional offense.
- 49:22That's what they are. Everything gets run through
- 49:24Shea. And then everybody else is going
- 49:27to get you 30 to 32 points, a game.
- 49:29He's going to do everything right on the defensive side of
- 49:31the ball. Is he worth it?
- 49:33Absolutely. If there's anybody in the NBA
- 49:36right now, where is that kind of money at the age of 26?
- 49:39It's Shay Alexander. Congratulations to him on a
- 49:41great season and a great run in the playoffs 701 Arrow.
- 49:45Hey, how about this? This breakdown.
- 49:47So 71.25 a year? Yep, 5.94 a month. 1.48 per
- 49:55week, 868,000 per game. 212,000, per day. 8.8 thousand per hour.
- 50:05147 dollars and 26 cents per minute and two dollars and 45
- 50:09cents per second. He just made like thirty two
- 50:12dollars in the time. I read that.
- 50:13Unless if he ever divorce is with his wife, I'll hook him up
- 50:17with one of my sisters and I might take him at that point,
- 50:22Chappelle had his skin back in the day, where he got like Oprah
- 50:26pregnant and it was like, he pretended, he won the lottery a
- 50:30couple other ones out here that is winning the lottery.
- 50:32It's a way, it's a version of winning the lottery, that's for
- 50:35sure. Speedy.
- 50:37A couple of names that are a little bit more obscure.
- 50:40Yaakov pedal, got 104 million dollars from the Raptors so the
- 50:45Raptors reaching and have. Well, the Raptors have been
- 50:48pretty bad Speedy. Can you give some rationale
- 50:51purple's been a pretty good player for a while?
- 50:53He's a solid like big man. Like traditional big man.
- 50:56Now, again, that type of money for a traditional big man.
- 50:59I mean, there's only a few teams that would have given it to him
- 51:01because like, it's not as valued.
- 51:02Its in today's game, it's more. I always like, In college coming
- 51:05out of Utah. He was always never great.
- 51:08He was never a great shooter but I always thought he was a good
- 51:10pastor for a big man. I think Toronto values, that
- 51:12kind of thing. That's why I did drafted him.
- 51:13He was good bench player on that championship team, but again
- 51:15really hasn't developed much since then.
- 51:17So, a little bit too much but I think again, they had to overpay
- 51:20to keep him. I guess, Toronto, don't hold on
- 51:22to players over the years. They've had a problem holding on
- 51:25to players as we saw one, go all the way to the finals with
- 51:28Indiana. So it is been a big problem over
- 51:31the years for the Toronto Raptors.
- 51:32And again, I didn't watch a lot of Toronto basketball all season
- 51:36long, but I I do know this kid. Is he worth 104 million dollars?
- 51:40Nobody's worth 100 and 4 million dollars but with the NBA and the
- 51:44way they they pay their players. Remember there's 15 guys on a
- 51:48roster, the money's got to be, you know, Evened out some way
- 51:52and and he's like, what the six guy he really is.
- 51:55I don't even think he's a starter.
- 51:56He's like the six guy on the Toronto Raptors and you're
- 52:00paying him four years, 104 million dollars.
- 52:02If I was the 8th guy that I saw, I if I'm not mistaken, it was a
- 52:06Sacramento. They're 14th.
- 52:08Guy is making like five or six million a year and you never
- 52:11steps on a basketball court. So I just think about that.
- 52:14The you can't attack these players for what they're
- 52:18getting. They earn the right to play in
- 52:19the NBA. They earn the right.
- 52:20And it's guaranteed, it's guaranteed.
- 52:22It's not the NFL, the NFL is, the only sport that the money is
- 52:27in guaranteed, the only Sport. And that's why I think the CPA
- 52:30and the NFL, and the players union has to figure out how to
- 52:34make this work, because it's not fair to the NFL players, they're
- 52:36putting their lives, their bodies, and their heads on the
- 52:39line. And they're not, they're not
- 52:40getting guaranteed money, except the signing bonus.
- 52:42And that's why all these players are asking for a big signing
- 52:45bonus when they sign their long term deals.
- 52:48Or yes, well let's get through the other three speeds and I
- 52:53really want to hear your take on Julius Randle in a second.
- 52:56But first James Harden, resigned with a Clippers two years, 81.5
- 53:00million that's probably sure insurance that 40 million a year
- 53:04gets spread out amongst the strip clubs in Los Angeles.
- 53:06Great job for all his beard maintenance.
- 53:12Feared maintenance companies as well heard, yeah.
- 53:16When he first came into the league, he was drafted, it's
- 53:19freakish brutal. He was good in college, too.
- 53:21He was great in college, so I that was hardened, the t-wolves
- 53:28decided that they're gonna go all in on the Julius.
- 53:31Randle experiment, they traded for him.
- 53:33They got divincenzo and Randall for towns.
- 53:36They re-signed Randall for three years. 100 million 33.3 33333
- 53:41million a year, right? So I don't know, I find that to
- 53:46be an interesting deal especially after he kind of
- 53:48really did the Julius Randle thing in the last round.
- 53:51The playoffs they were able to be in and he really know showed.
- 53:54I don't know why you give that guy money.
- 53:56That's what. Tell you what was?
- 53:57I could tell you the next did, but they kind of put them in
- 54:00this hole. You know, you start with you.
- 54:03How do you feel about this Randall?
- 54:04Three years. 100 million deal. I don't think it's a bad deal
- 54:07for the Timberwolves because I don't think anybody's gonna want
- 54:09to go and play over there. Nobody wants to play with
- 54:11Anthony Edwards. He throws his teammates under
- 54:13the bus. We've seen that over and over
- 54:15and over again. Do you think a superstar like
- 54:18Giannis wants to go and play with Anthony Edwards?
- 54:20He couldn't get along with call Anthony towns.
- 54:21That's why he was traded Jimmy buckets, obviously couldn't get
- 54:25along with him. He said, Superstars play with
- 54:27him and they're all gone, it doesn't work.
- 54:30Watch go. Bear is gonna get traded to
- 54:32because he can't stand Anthony Edwards either.
- 54:34He doesn't work well with teammates Julius Randle.
- 54:38He can handle Anthony Edwards. You know why he can handle
- 54:41Anthony Edwards cuz he's the same type of player as Anthony
- 54:45Edwards. A crybaby, a crybaby, bitch,
- 54:47that's what he is. He cries about things and he
- 54:50believes that he's the best player on that roster.
- 54:53Now, he's taking a step back since he's gone to the
- 54:56Timberwolves. I believe he thinks that Anthony
- 54:58Edwards is the guy. He's the second guy.
- 55:00But nevertheless when he was here with the New York Knicks,
- 55:03He thought he was better than Jalen Brunson, he thought he was
- 55:05the leader of the team and that is why he's no longer a Nick and
- 55:09he doesn't play well in big games.
- 55:12He's not a big game player and either is Anthony Edwards as
- 55:15we've seen over the last couple of years.
- 55:17So they're practically the same, identical player and Anthony
- 55:21Edwards. And him are probably butt
- 55:22buddies, who knows? They probably screwing each
- 55:24other in the shower room, I could care less.
- 55:26By the way, Anthony Edwards broke up with his babies moms.
- 55:30Did you guys see that and the child support?
- 55:34He paid, the child support up front, to his, his fiance,
- 55:40whatever she was just so we can get it out of the way and he
- 55:43doesn't have to deal with it in the future.
- 55:44Could you believe that that's Anthony Edwards.
- 55:47Ladies and gentlemen, that's story came out a couple of days
- 55:50ago, I read it. I don't know if it to be true
- 55:53but what I've heard is he broke up with his babies moms and he
- 55:57paid her up front. The child support because he
- 55:59doesn't want to deal with her in the future.
- 56:01That's Anthony Edwards, boys. Yeah.
- 56:03What great leaders of course what is?
- 56:06Oh yeah. What an absolute ass has a
- 56:09daughter and that's what he does.
- 56:11There was only one left Speedy just quickly mention it.
- 56:14This is the guy that people were like couldn't believe wasn't in
- 56:19the. Kevin Durant, trade Jabari Smith
- 56:20Jr. That gets a five-year 122
- 56:23million dollar deal from the Rockets.
- 56:24It's I still don't understand how they were able to get to ran
- 56:28for his cheap as they did this. This was the guy that you the
- 56:32sun should have been asking for, I guess they were told no.
- 56:36Yeah, what he got Speedy? Yes, Smith know, definitely,
- 56:38definitely. Obviously top three pick in the
- 56:40same draft with Chet, Holmgren, and bond.
- 56:42Cheryl a lot of Pop, people thought he couldn't have gone
- 56:44number one at the time his offensive prowess.
- 56:46I don't think has really been as good in the NBA so far, I can
- 56:49see basis but he's a good team player.
- 56:51Could do a lot of different things and I think what the
- 56:54rockets need with the identity, they're trying to bring a
- 56:57special with the Joker being that Celtics type coach where
- 57:01stressing that defense, he's got a lot of different things and
- 57:04he's 22 years old still. So a lot of room for him to grow
- 57:06their paying him early or the market will get up for those
- 57:10types of players later, on First with the leak getting young as
- 57:13it is, All right, time to talk trades.
- 57:15There weren't any huge, huge trades but the Nets made a
- 57:19little news trading with the nuggets for Michael Porter Jr.
- 57:22Giving up cam Johnson, love this, movie in the Nets.
- 57:25The deal love, that's interesting that you do.
- 57:27I was gonna say, I love this move for the Nuggets.
- 57:29I'd like to hear your take on this.
- 57:30Well, Michael Porter, Jr. I think is a better player than
- 57:33cam Johnson. He has been a journeyman since
- 57:35he's come into the league now. Camp Johnson is a two-way
- 57:38player. Michael Porter is is an
- 57:39offensive player and I I do believe the Nets need a player
- 57:43that they can build their offense around.
- 57:44They don't really have that they have Thomas there.
- 57:47But Thomas, I don't know. Is the bright light guy that
- 57:51you're gonna say, oh, we got my, we got Thomas on our team.
- 57:53I think a guy like Michael Porter, he's a known guy, he's a
- 57:57known commodity, he's won an NBA title, he's a winner, and I
- 58:01think he's quite capable of being a number one, guy on a
- 58:05roster. Now, he is going to be the
- 58:07number one guy there. He's gonna give you if he's the
- 58:10if the offense is going for him, he's gonna score 24 25, Points a
- 58:14game, he's capable of doing that.
- 58:16As a third guy on on that nuggets team, he was averaging
- 58:2017 18 points again. Now, he's the number one guy, he
- 58:23can absolutely win games in Eastern Conference and the
- 58:26Eastern Conference is so much more weaker than the Western
- 58:29Conference especially when it comes to the back end of the
- 58:33Eastern Conference. So you're going to see Michael
- 58:35Porter, put up numbers that we've never seen Michael Porter.
- 58:38Do cam Johnson. Obviously the nuggets are going
- 58:42with him because of the contract.
- 58:43They don't have to Michael Porter's making more money.
- 58:46Cam Johnson's, making less. And I think, you know, swapping
- 58:50both players and getting a little bit more for the bank for
- 58:53the block with Cam Johnson because he could do, he could be
- 58:55a two-dimensional player. That's why I think the Nuggets
- 58:58went with Cam and why they got Cam and not make a move with
- 59:01another team and bring in another player in a trade to
- 59:03trade, Michael Porter. So, I that's the only reason why
- 59:05cam Johnson is cheaper than Michael Porter Jr.
- 59:08Yeah, that I think that was the big reason we were talking about
- 59:10the Nuggets lack of bench production last year, a lot like
- 59:13the Knicks at certain points during the year.
- 59:14And I said that was a big reason why Malone got fired.
- 59:17And again, these veterans that didn't want to come back, like
- 59:20Russell, Russell, Russell Westbrook already said, he had
- 59:23no desire to come back. He signed.
- 59:25I don't know, he signed yet. But you look at now, the
- 59:27collective like I was brown as well as a free agent which they
- 59:30probably wouldn't have been able to do if they kept Porter's
- 59:32contract. And then that's also get a high
- 59:33upside type guy that they still could develop.
- 59:35They want to stay young all at once.
- 59:37If you could say healthy, he's probably the best player that
- 59:39they have. And Scoring wise.
- 59:41He does. You're right fish.
- 59:42He doesn't degrate defensively but I think he's still better
- 59:45than a lot of the ones. They have their always get
- 59:47average. 25 points, a game Michael Porter Jr.
- 59:49That's what he's gonna be good. Stay healthy though.
- 59:51Like, this is not a guy that's a picture of Health.
- 59:54He came into the league with back questions, that's why you
- 59:57dropped originally in the draft. And then he sat out a year.
- 59:59This is the, this is the type of guy that changed.
- 1:00:03He's a trade you worried. Well, you're right.
- 1:00:04I mean, because then that's aren't closed, right?
- 1:00:06But the idea is, they don't realize.
- 1:00:09They all got an unprotected, first round pick in 2030.
- 1:00:12I don't understand. Get off of Porter because the
- 1:00:15league views Porter is much lower asset than cam Johnson's.
- 1:00:19A 39% 3-point shooter last year, better than Porter and Porter
- 1:00:23supposed to be the offensive player.
- 1:00:24So I would honestly look at cam Johnson as a better player going
- 1:00:29forwards, the age, I don't know if at the age, is big of a
- 1:00:32difference but Porter's been around for a long time,
- 1:00:33everybody knows that he's not that it feels like he's not.
- 1:00:36The same player is he was a couple of years ago when they
- 1:00:39were winning. Obviously, A lot of things fell
- 1:00:41apart there in Denver, we don't know the whole picture.
- 1:00:43It's very interesting that he gets a fresh start.
- 1:00:45I just, I really cam Johnson. I thought cam Johnson was at
- 1:00:49times the best player on that team for long stretches for the
- 1:00:53Nets. I don't think it's consistent
- 1:00:54enough to be a number. I think you're, I think you're
- 1:00:57looking at Camp Johnson a little bit higher than you should be.
- 1:01:00I do know. I mean, they just traded a first
- 1:01:02round pick and Porter for cam. So the reason we're protected,
- 1:01:06the reason why they did that, I'm gonna tell you why.
- 1:01:08The reason why they did that is because Michael Porter is a
- 1:01:11little bit older than cam Johnson.
- 1:01:13That's the only reason why they did that.
- 1:01:15That's the only reason why they did that.
- 1:01:17And Michael Porter is an injury problem player.
- 1:01:19Can Johnson, besides the, the couple of years, I think, when
- 1:01:23he was on the Suns, the Phoenix Suns.
- 1:01:25He has been fairly healthy with the Nets.
- 1:01:28And, and Michael Porter is entry, Pro Player.
- 1:01:31If you would ask me right now, you asked any expert who's
- 1:01:33better? Michael Porter Jr.
- 1:01:35Camp Johnson. I think a lot of those experts
- 1:01:37would tell you my Michael Porter, Jr.
- 1:01:38When healthy is much better than Camp.
- 1:01:40Johnston. But Michael Porter and it's not
- 1:01:42Michael Porter is never healthy and that's the problem.
- 1:01:45And I think the Nets only brought him in to be to use them
- 1:01:48as a trade ship, if he has a good season, they're going to
- 1:01:51move him at the trade deadline to a team.
- 1:01:53That's going to overpay for them if they need an offensive
- 1:01:56option. Well, we know when we know
- 1:01:58Michael Porter is definitely better because Nathan said, the
- 1:02:00cam Johnson was better. Oh yeah, the Nuggets also added
- 1:02:04Jonas, Valen shoes. The big Center.
- 1:02:07He kind of like generation does. Hit the three a little bit
- 1:02:11traded him for Dario to. I didn't even know was still in
- 1:02:14the nuggets. Are definitely trying to retool
- 1:02:17a little bit nickeil. Alexander Walker sign and trade
- 1:02:21to the Hawks. The Hawks keep making moves
- 1:02:23Errol. Yes, you know, we saw during the
- 1:02:25draft, they started with before the draft, even with porzingis,
- 1:02:28we saw them make the move in the draft to go back and add that
- 1:02:33unprotected pick next year, so they have a real shot at
- 1:02:36retooling. They're trying to build around
- 1:02:38Trey young, I don't know. If that's the wisest decision
- 1:02:42though, that's what I believe that.
- 1:02:44I don't believe that with the Hawks.
- 1:02:46I think that one way or another, they're going to trade Trey
- 1:02:49young, if not this year. Next year.
- 1:02:50I don't think so. Why are you adding like
- 1:02:53ancillary pieces? Because these guys, because this
- 1:02:57is an organization that doesn't do anything right?
- 1:02:59When was the last time they did something right.
- 1:03:01Okay, and, and Trey young, he's the prototypical guy that you're
- 1:03:06going. He's going to give you if he's
- 1:03:07healthy. He's going to give you 28 29
- 1:03:09Points, a game. There is gonna be a team out
- 1:03:11there willing to overspend for him.
- 1:03:14And by the way, next year's draft class is much better than
- 1:03:17it is this past year. And I'm telling you right now,
- 1:03:20don't be surprised at the trade deadline that the Hawks just
- 1:03:24completely pull everything away and say, you know what?
- 1:03:27We're trading this guy, we're trading that guy.
- 1:03:28Oh yeah, train young, we're trading him here.
- 1:03:30We'll go trade him to the Golden State Warriors because the
- 1:03:33Golden State Warriors are gonna give us their first round draft
- 1:03:36pick. Its to me, this is just what the
- 1:03:38Hawks do, all the time, every single Time there, there are
- 1:03:42good team. They just trade them away.
- 1:03:43It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, the Hawks had a stretch
- 1:03:46obviously with 2008. I think 2019, were they the
- 1:03:49longest play a playoff success rate in the NBA?
- 1:03:51I think the longest, I like, by the way, I like the Valentine's
- 1:03:54move, I love that move for the Nuggets.
- 1:03:57That is a great move for the Nuggets because this guy is
- 1:04:01great on the boards. And he's a good offensive player
- 1:04:04in the paint and he's mean, he's mean like yokich and and that's
- 1:04:08what you want. I I think they're going to play
- 1:04:10an aggressive type of game and and Valentine's is an aggressive
- 1:04:14player. So I like that move by then I
- 1:04:16guess great. I was a slam dunk move I know
- 1:04:19it's not like something that really stands out to you guys
- 1:04:22but you watch with him and yokich playing back and forth
- 1:04:25with one another and working off each other.
- 1:04:27It's going to work. Yeah it's gonna work.
- 1:04:29You always look at the depth, the big man of being important
- 1:04:31in some facets when it comes to just the production on the
- 1:04:34rebounding end. And again you saw that like
- 1:04:36accumulating deaf wife. Now Valentine's wasn't on the
- 1:04:40Toronto. A chip team.
- 1:04:41He was traded for Marcus all, but he still was valuable in
- 1:04:43certain areas to get them to rise to that point and the
- 1:04:46Nuggets too. The same kind of thing you want
- 1:04:48to use Aaron Gordon more as the offensive type big man.
- 1:04:51He's not as good of a raw Defender as somebody like
- 1:04:53valentina's inside that it's been steady his whole career and
- 1:04:56yokich loves to pass the ball and this guy loves the dunk the
- 1:04:59ball. You're gonna see a lot of
- 1:05:01highlights with Valentine's. And like I said, he is mean he's
- 1:05:05a mean player hard, fouls. He beat you up in the paint and
- 1:05:09that's what you want to see from a player.
- 1:05:11Your kitchen is gonna love him. These guys are gonna be fun to
- 1:05:14watch. I'm telling the best backup
- 1:05:16center. He's had yes to work with 100%
- 1:05:18in 100%. I, I need to know what you think
- 1:05:40about. The Malik Beasley thing because
- 1:05:42they immediately the Pistons sign and traded Duncan Robinson.
- 1:05:46So play basically the Beasley role.
- 1:05:48Now that we know that Beasley ain't playing basketball know
- 1:05:52what happened? Was your take boys yesterday.
- 1:05:55But yeah, I was, it was interesting and and Jake brought
- 1:05:59up a great clip on just, you know, just how.
- 1:06:02And I I said, it's like the tip. The iceberg we only see so much
- 1:06:06and so who knows how deep this really goes. yeah, it was, it
- 1:06:11was just interesting to see how Quick it turned and how it got
- 1:06:17legs so fast, but it's also interesting.
- 1:06:20Arrow brought up, something wide, like the district attorney
- 1:06:23and stuff was involved in. You're just like, well, was he,
- 1:06:26was he laundering money? Was he doing something?
- 1:06:28So? And, and we were all kind of
- 1:06:30like, Interested in it but we don't really know exactly like
- 1:06:35the whole story of what it is and why there's so many people
- 1:06:38involved in it. But the clip that Jake showed us
- 1:06:41was really, it was a 12 point or they were up 11 and a half and
- 1:06:45he literally takes it, Sprints down, the court, and dunking and
- 1:06:48covers. And so you're just like, oh,
- 1:06:51okay, well nobody does that now it's looks a little fishy.
- 1:06:55So this will be interesting to see how plays out, but yeah, he
- 1:06:58he ain't gonna be playing for a while.
- 1:07:00I I like, first of all, I think players should be allowed to bet
- 1:07:04on Sports, not their own games, but other games and I don't know
- 1:07:08if he bet on his own game, but if the District Attorney's
- 1:07:11Office saying he did, they're saying that he did and it was
- 1:07:14like prop bets. Fine fine.
- 1:07:16But why is the district attorney involved with an unless there
- 1:07:18were laundering money because it was legalized in Wisconsin.
- 1:07:22That's where it happened, right? It happened against the bucks.
- 1:07:25So if it's legalized in Wisconsin, why is the district
- 1:07:28attorney involved with it? Nobody knows the true story but
- 1:07:31everybody is saying, well we're never going to see beastly again
- 1:07:33in the NBA. That's a bunch of crap if you
- 1:07:36ask me and again if you're going to come out and say oh you are
- 1:07:40going to come out with these stories and gonna say well this
- 1:07:42guy's involved and that guy's involved and the district
- 1:07:44attorney is involved. Why don't we know the whole
- 1:07:46story? Why do we have to wait?
- 1:07:48We all about. The Otani thing when that came
- 1:07:50out. Why don't we know about this?
- 1:07:52It must be really know everything.
- 1:07:54About the Otay know, I told, you know, the MLB, brushed it onto
- 1:07:58the rug, we all know what happened, that's the facts fact
- 1:08:01that Jack and I don't get the Beasley thing.
- 1:08:04And if I were the Knicks, if I were the Knicks, when Beasley
- 1:08:08becomes available, I bring these two, he won't be playing.
- 1:08:13He's in jail. He's gonna be in jail for Point
- 1:08:17shaving. He'll join Johnson Porter on Tim
- 1:08:20Donahue. He's a basketball league.
- 1:08:22I, you got to prove it, you gotta prove it.
- 1:08:24So, Tim Duncan's basketball, that would be the place for just
- 1:08:29a couple of signs. Before we get out, we have to
- 1:08:34talk about the Bucks waving game Lillard, using that old stretch
- 1:08:39provision invented for whose speedy.
- 1:08:42Stretched for president. Miles the stretch.
- 1:08:45Who did it? Who did the Knicks hat?
- 1:08:47Who did the next decide to stretch that ruined them for
- 1:08:50years decided to stretch? Myles Turner, they spit it out.
- 1:08:55No, not years ago. I don't care about the stretch
- 1:08:59in the next. I care about this stretch
- 1:09:01provision was was like originally it was called like
- 1:09:04the Allen Houston Rule and no actually have a modified
- 1:09:07actually they modified it. The next, when they put it in as
- 1:09:10a rule, the Nyx decided to do the stretch position that
- 1:09:14Chauncey Billups because they thought if they did that they'd
- 1:09:16have enough money to make a run and it ended terribly.
- 1:09:19So the Bucks are pulling that, move taking the salary that was
- 1:09:23due for game, the big money, and stretching it out over five
- 1:09:26years. So they could afford to go get
- 1:09:28Myles. Turner on the floor.
- 1:09:30This hurts Indiana, this hurts Indiana, they lost now, you
- 1:09:34think about Indiana right now, they lost Tyrese Helper and for
- 1:09:37the whole season with his toy Kelly's Myles.
- 1:09:40Turner is a big man who could shoot the three, he could do so
- 1:09:44many things on the boards. And now you lose him to free
- 1:09:47agency. Now and you lose Tyrese Halpern.
- 1:09:50Indiana went from one of the best teams in East probably
- 1:09:53Falls to like 9, they're nowhere.
- 1:09:57Close to the team. They were this past season and
- 1:10:00that absolutely hurts them. So I I didn't know, I didn't
- 1:10:04understand why Indiana are allowed Myles Turner even to go
- 1:10:07to free agency, and and again, it just tells you one thing
- 1:10:10about Indiana. They had a chance to get honest
- 1:10:13and what, how Burton did. And his father did after that
- 1:10:17Series in, in the first, in the first round probably pushed away
- 1:10:22or gave him no chances of getting honest, if he becomes a
- 1:10:25fan of available because he's not gonna want to go and play
- 1:10:27Indie with Indiana when the Halbert and they're there.
- 1:10:30So I that's what would have made sense to me.
- 1:10:33Oh, we lose Myles Turner, we're gonna get Giannis, it's not
- 1:10:37happening anymore and Janice is getting traded, it might not be
- 1:10:40right now. It might not be in the beginning
- 1:10:42of season Giannis. By the trade on is getting
- 1:10:45traded. He's not happy with this
- 1:10:47organization and losing Dame. Game wasn't playing for the rest
- 1:10:50of the season. Anyways, he was not playing this
- 1:10:53year at his age. He's what 35. 36, he tore his
- 1:10:56Achilles, but Giannis Wanted game to be there.
- 1:11:00That's why he decided to extend his contract and now Dame is
- 1:11:04gone. Best believe you think?
- 1:11:08Do you think as the leader of that team in Janice?
- 1:11:11Do you think they even gave him the respect or wear with all to
- 1:11:14talk to him and ask him? He was surprised he was upset
- 1:11:18and he was surprised. I think that's what that's when
- 1:11:21it came out and said he was upset like, I think if you make
- 1:11:24that effort to know, like, why he, why he signed these, because
- 1:11:28he wanted that guy. If you literally like, just go
- 1:11:31and be like, hey, you know what, he's getting older and, like,
- 1:11:33kind of he may not like it, but at least he has to respect you
- 1:11:36for the fact that he was given the respect of like, hey, this
- 1:11:41is kind of the direction we're going.
- 1:11:43You can't really be pissed about that if they don't, you know, do
- 1:11:47it behind your back and you find out via Twitter, somebody tells
- 1:11:49you, right? Horrible.
- 1:11:51I think that That's gonna push you on this out and this is an
- 1:11:55organization that's been behind his family.
- 1:11:57They're the one that this organization moved Janice's
- 1:12:01family from Greece to America, taking care of him.
- 1:12:03Made sure that he was happy. Gave him.
- 1:12:06How many contracts? I think this is his third
- 1:12:08contract with the Milwaukee Bucks.
- 1:12:10And he's made a lot of money here in America.
- 1:12:13But now Janice is at the tail end of his career, he wants to
- 1:12:17win another championship and he knows he's not gonna win in
- 1:12:20Milwaukee. This team is old, there's no
- 1:12:22Talent there and I don't care if they bring in Myles, Turner
- 1:12:25Myles. Turner is not a superstar, he's
- 1:12:27a good player, he's a quality player, he's not a star.
- 1:12:30So I I don't know how this is gonna work, I think Myles.
- 1:12:34Turner is gonna be honest, not as good as John is, but he's
- 1:12:38gonna be, he's gonna be playing the role of Giannis, when it's
- 1:12:41get straight and it's gonna have to play the role.
- 1:12:43It's like a second optional offense, which we can get away
- 1:12:46with. If you're the Pacers offensive,
- 1:12:47had a lot of other good Shooters around him Milwaukee.
- 1:12:49Really doesn't have that right now.
- 1:12:50Little drift very well. Yeah, Milwaukee, Is a lot of
- 1:12:53similar style type bench players.
- 1:12:55They have a lot of defensive forwards type thing and I think
- 1:12:58they even they re-signed Bobby porous but I think they lost
- 1:13:01someone else. They lost Brook Lopez too.
- 1:13:02So like it just don't have a lot of deathly.
- 1:13:05We know Doc Rivers is not the greatest coaching either and
- 1:13:09he's gonna run that team into the ground.
- 1:13:10If the front office hasn't done more enough of it all ready and
- 1:13:13that's definitely gonna make Giannis much more frustrated.
- 1:13:16Now again the rumors did not say the honest, requested the trade
- 1:13:19officially but it's seems like it's leaning in that direction.
- 1:13:23But if you're a Rockets fan job, you would absolutely have to be
- 1:13:27pumped about pumped up about this offseason.
- 1:13:29We already mentioned the trades that we mentioned, the big move
- 1:13:33to get the big man, Durant, not having to give up Jamari Smith
- 1:13:37and extending him. Look at what else.
- 1:13:39Did they got? Clint capela back their old
- 1:13:41rebounder they brought him back. Three year deal older age and
- 1:13:45they brought in another guy locally that we've seen for a
- 1:13:48while. Dorian Finney Smith on a four
- 1:13:50year, 53 million dollar deal is a fan just in general job if
- 1:13:55you're team is loading up like that.
- 1:13:57How excited are you? Well, I think it's their filling
- 1:14:00holes and not spending a buttload of money.
- 1:14:02Not just putting all your eggs in one basket.
- 1:14:04And, you know, when you, when you go and see kind of where you
- 1:14:08need to fix and not necessarily fix, but, you know, add and
- 1:14:11subtract and to be able to do it and with, you know, good
- 1:14:16contracts that are good for, you know, I was a cappella being a
- 1:14:19little bit older and knowing his role but you know, get that
- 1:14:22three year that comfort. In the field, those spots, and
- 1:14:24infinity Smith, with what he is able to do.
- 1:14:26I just think when they're feeling spots and see that
- 1:14:29they're making an effort, you can only be excited about them,
- 1:14:32trying to put that team in a position to win.
- 1:14:35So I think they some holes that they really really needed.
- 1:14:38And click capella has been a journeyman for the last.
- 1:14:41I don't know. Five, six years.
- 1:14:43I'm just gonna say, like, seven, eight years probably he's been a
- 1:14:46journeyman, he's a good player. He's a good defensive player,
- 1:14:48he's offense is really one. He doesn't have much of an
- 1:14:52offence. He doesn't shoot very well for a
- 1:14:54four. Sometimes, you know, with the
- 1:14:56Hawks. He was playing Five at some
- 1:14:58points of the season. So, a compeller is a good
- 1:15:01player. He's a good rebounder, but he's
- 1:15:03not a great player. So he's a good guy off the
- 1:15:07bench, that's what I would say. Clint capela is.
- 1:15:09He's not a starter anymore. That's what definitely not a
- 1:15:12starter anymore, but still useful guy in the league and we
- 1:15:15said the other team that's loading up is the Hawks.
- 1:15:17They also add Luke Kennard a dookie Darrell an old dookie.
- 1:15:21Nice. Sharp shooter Wing player
- 1:15:25doesn't play with the Duke team that lost South Carolina news
- 1:15:30for you guys. Most Duke players don't play
- 1:15:32defense. When they come to the NBA JJ.
- 1:15:36Redick is another one, dude, Baddie, a played a lot of ya.
- 1:15:39Did Grand Hill played two, he was a two-dimensional player.
- 1:15:42Kyrie Irving, no, play a lick a defense.
- 1:15:44I mean, if you go up and down the the great Duke players that
- 1:15:48have played in the NBA Jason Tate of plays defense, but very
- 1:15:51few of them that become good players in the NBA play a lick a
- 1:15:55defense. So that's very that's very Coach
- 1:15:58K S who actually preaches defense.
- 1:16:01So figure that one out. It doesn't make it that's true.
- 1:16:03At least the guys that played for him slam their hands on the
- 1:16:06floor. Trying to pretend like they're
- 1:16:08playing defense. No good.
- 1:16:09The last guy I got here. Their Speedy Gershon yabas goes
- 1:16:14to the next. I like this.
- 1:16:16And that's the guy from the French team.
- 1:16:17That's the, I guess he's like a 6/8 Center sort of.
- 1:16:22Yeah. But he's an outside stretch guy
- 1:16:24basically, right. He's gonna be like a stretch for
- 1:16:26type thing. Could do a lot of different
- 1:16:28things. And again, a good contract for a
- 1:16:30player. Well, around, he always liked to
- 1:16:31see that when a player is not just one type of specialist
- 1:16:34either, you would use him in many different rotations, we
- 1:16:36talk about where we're talking about the Knicks with, Mike
- 1:16:38Brown, how he's gonna like play the bench to be a lot different.
- 1:16:40And that's I think a big key. When you look at somebody like
- 1:16:43that, he's a perfect type of prototype.
- 1:16:45You saw him alive. I have a lot of those types of
- 1:16:46players with the Cavs and LeBron was younger.
- 1:16:48Those types of rotational power forward types and Sacramento
- 1:16:52didn't work as well, but they haven't, he was more.
- 1:16:53They just built the team that way because they're much more
- 1:16:55back Corridor team. And I will say this, what the
- 1:16:59Knicks are trying to do now is pretty obvious.
- 1:17:00They're going French, that's where they're going.
- 1:17:02They got three French for when people three years, I hope not.
- 1:17:09I mean, I'm not a wimpy fan. I know a lot of Knick fans would
- 1:17:12be excited to have weapon Yama but I I just I'm not a fan of
- 1:17:16his. So those are one of the guys.
- 1:17:18I know everybody says, oh, you don't like how could you not
- 1:17:20like Steph Curry. Why are you not like webbing
- 1:17:22Yama? I just think he was overrated
- 1:17:25when he came to came to the NBA and anybody that wants to come
- 1:17:28out and say that this guy could go down as one of the greatest,
- 1:17:30if not the greatest NBA player of all time, you're on drugs
- 1:17:34because nobody's going to be better than Michael Jordan no
- 1:17:36matter how many championships weapon Yama wins.
- 1:17:39And by the way, I'll be surprised if he wins more than
- 1:17:41two. Okay, that's all I'm gonna say
- 1:17:43about that. That's it.
- 1:17:45All right. And guys, there'll be more
- 1:17:47stuff. I'm sure and basketball this off
- 1:17:49season. But for now, that was the first
- 1:17:50rendition of our free agent Roundtable, and I want to say
- 1:17:55something else, this is not great Popovich anymore, the
- 1:17:59Spurs they brought in Dillion Harper, I love Dylan Harper.
- 1:18:02I think he's gonna be a great player, how it?
- 1:18:04And everybody's attacking me on tiktok right now, saying, how
- 1:18:08could you say that the Aaron? Fox and Dylan Harper won't work.
- 1:18:11And it's pretty simple out. Dear and fox is six foot three.
- 1:18:15So what are you gonna do? You gonna move Dillon Brooks to
- 1:18:18a shooting guard position where he's more of a point guard.
- 1:18:21You gonna play a two-dimensional point guard game, where these
- 1:18:25guys are gonna cross over and hog the ball and not give the
- 1:18:28ball to wiping. Yamaha it's not going to work,
- 1:18:30you're gonna see, it's not gonna work.
- 1:18:32They're gonna have to decide, they're going to decide to go
- 1:18:34with the rookie Dillion Harper. This is happening.
- 1:18:37This, the same thing happened in Sacramento.
- 1:18:40When you had Halbert and there and D Aaron Fox, they had to
- 1:18:44make a decision. Vision.
- 1:18:45Do we want to keep the iron fox or do we want to keep Tyrese
- 1:18:48Halpern? Well, guess what, they made the
- 1:18:50wrong decision as much as I like the Aaron.
- 1:18:52Fox Tyrese. Halburton has been the better
- 1:18:55player over the last two seasons.
- 1:18:56That's the fact Jack Sacramento has not gone past the first
- 1:19:01round. Indiana has been in multiple
- 1:19:05multiple positions to go far into playoffs.
- 1:19:08As a matter of fact, last year, before this year, they were in
- 1:19:11Eastern Conference Finals when they got knocked out by the
- 1:19:13Celtics. And this past year, they were in
- 1:19:15a finals, maybe next year. Well, not next year, because
- 1:19:17they're not healthy. But I you got what I'm saying,
- 1:19:20howbert and is it game-changing player is the Aaron Fox.
- 1:19:23He's not. And that's that's all I'm gonna
- 1:19:26say you gotta, you got to decide who you're going to keep, and I
- 1:19:29know fans are not going to like it.
- 1:19:30It's going to be Dylan harp. And by the way, Dillion Harper
- 1:19:33is a beast. He is a beast of a player
- 1:19:37defense offense, six foot six and his father.
- 1:19:41Does anybody know who Ron Harper is, well, go look him.
- 1:19:44He played on those Chicago Bulls teams he is a all World
- 1:19:48defensive player and if Dylan Harper has any kind of style of
- 1:19:52defense like his father, his father was in a really good
- 1:19:55offensive player. Dylan, does you have an
- 1:19:57offensive player in a defensive player like a prototype of Ron
- 1:20:00Harper? Watch out?
- 1:20:01This guy could be as super as a superstar should be.
- 1:20:05So Ron Harper, the guy that would hypothetically shut down
- 1:20:08the top, four ball, handler of all time, Steph Curry.
- 1:20:11According to somebody, I'm gonna tell you this right now.
- 1:20:13What its gonna be, isn't it, isn't it?
- 1:20:18Funny Dylan. Harper's rookie contract is more
- 1:20:20than his dad made his career. Yeah, that's Accurate.
- 1:20:23And yeah but you know when you're when you're a father is
- 1:20:26Ron Harper, you think, Ron Harper gives a crap, he's going
- 1:20:29to get a piece of that money. His old sonny boy, will take
- 1:20:32care of his old daddy dukes and oh, yeah.
- 1:20:34And his mom it by the way. His mom was a good athlete too.
- 1:20:37So if you know, the background of the Harper family, I think he
- 1:20:41has a sister. That's a good athlete, a track
- 1:20:43and field Runner. I mean, the family is loaded
- 1:20:45with Talent when it comes to athletic ability.
- 1:20:47So congratulations to Dylan Harper.
- 1:20:49I can't wait to watch him play with webinar.
- 1:20:52I'm not a weapon Yama fan, but I'm a Dillion Harper fan, and I
- 1:20:55will buy a Dillion Harper, a Dillion Harper Jersey, because I
- 1:20:58root them on. He played for a New Jersey team.
- 1:21:01He's on here on the east coast and I I love watching him play.
- 1:21:05So it's gonna be, I'm glad he's in the NBA so I don't have to
- 1:21:07watch him beat our ass every year they got too good.
- 1:21:12I'll tell you this. Oh, both Rutgers gonna be Stars,
- 1:21:16they're gonna be stars. Now, one of them just needs to
- 1:21:19learn how to shut his mouth. Dillion Harper doesn't talk, he
- 1:21:21lets his game. Do the talking, we'll see what
- 1:21:24happens with the guy over there and you talk.
- 1:21:26Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, our two of the day.
- 1:21:32You not a lot. I don't have a lot but Ladies
- 1:21:42and gentlemen, are Deuce of the day.
- 1:21:44We were speaking about it yesterday.
- 1:21:45Thank you, Nathan, for reaching out to me and telling me guess
- 1:21:49who's coming out of retirement? Yes.
- 1:21:51Ladies and gentlemen Darren Waller has come out of
- 1:21:55retirement and was traded yes, the New York Giants traded him
- 1:22:00for a conditional pick to where late is it gentlemen?
- 1:22:03The Miami Dolphins. So what is that?
- 1:22:07Spell l, o s e r loser loser. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:22:13I have no idea why Miami even traded to pick.
- 1:22:18I don't even know what it to conditional.
- 1:22:20Pick is, it could be a fourth of 5th.
- 1:22:21It doesn't really matter. Darren Waller has been out of
- 1:22:24leak for year. He wasn't the same player when
- 1:22:26he went to the Giants. The Giants could keep him on the
- 1:22:28field for two years more than 12 gains.
- 1:22:31The guy is a waste. He the story is great.
- 1:22:34This guy was in Elite tight end for maybe two years.
- 1:22:36And then after that, he Is completely disappeared and now
- 1:22:40he wants to come back. Why?
- 1:22:41Because he had to pay his wife, some money after they had a
- 1:22:44divorce, she's one of the best athletes we've seen in women's
- 1:22:48and women's sports. And she's not crying about it.
- 1:22:50But Darren Waller his rapid careers completely over.
- 1:22:54So what is he gonna do? He's gonna come back to the NFL
- 1:22:57and try to make a statement with a comeback.
- 1:22:59Bob boy. Oh boy, if anybody checked out
- 1:23:01his rapping, it is one of the worst i i oops who said it was
- 1:23:06really good. He's horrible game.
- 1:23:10I if you want to hear an athlete right?
- 1:23:12Good James actually good. He's actually pretty good
- 1:23:14rapper. He's been on with Jada Kiss.
- 1:23:16He's been on with a bunch of rappers.
- 1:23:17This guy Darren Waller, he has been absolutely putrid.
- 1:23:21Oh, it's horrible. His career was one and done, but
- 1:23:25I believe his comeback is going to be one and done.
- 1:23:28I don't think he's gonna last the whole season because the guy
- 1:23:30can't stay healthy. So my dose of the day goes to
- 1:23:32the terrible. Miami Dolphins has they bring
- 1:23:36back the one and only Darwin Waller and maybe it's not such a
- 1:23:39douche to the Giants because they got something back for a
- 1:23:42guy that they didn't think was gonna come back from pick to
- 1:23:47throw it a tight end. That's our juice.
- 1:23:50All right, ladies and gentlemen, when we come back, we don't have
- 1:23:53a guest tonight. Believe we have a lot of topics
- 1:23:55to get into, we're gonna come back with King of the Hill and
- 1:23:58then sounded out. But first, our Sports minute
- 1:24:01with the fish. Three.
- 1:24:04Two. This is the Java and the mouth
- 1:24:07Sportsman is. Okay guys, Aaron Fishman here
- 1:24:12with your sports minute, gonna go through a few stories.
- 1:24:15Before we go into the baseball scores tonight, A woman has come
- 1:24:19out and accused Buffalo Bills. First round draft pick Maxwell,
- 1:24:22Hairston of sexual assault. Stemming from an incident back
- 1:24:25in 2021, the woman. Rebecca Hendrix alleges that
- 1:24:29when Hairston, and her were, in the same dorm in college, at the
- 1:24:32University of Kentucky, that in that March, according to the
- 1:24:35lawsuit, Harrison went to Hendricks room without being
- 1:24:37invited, and followed her into her room, after she declined, to
- 1:24:41hang out with him after Hendrix, expressed her non-interest in
- 1:24:44engaging, in sexual intercourse with him, several times,
- 1:24:47Hairston forcefully, removed her pajamas shorts and sexually
- 1:24:50assaulted. Her Harrison is Agents, is Agent
- 1:24:52have not responded and he is not charged with a crime, the bills.
- 1:24:56Reportedly knew about this incident before drafting
- 1:24:59Harrison at the time. Brandon Dean said that the team
- 1:25:02fully investigated allegation of sexual assault in 2021 at
- 1:25:06Hairston, says that Hairston was an impeccable kid, quote on
- 1:25:10quote and it doesn't seem to be anything there.
- 1:25:12The bills will have to hope their initial assessment is
- 1:25:15correct. As this case, does not seem to
- 1:25:17be going away in the forcible future.
- 1:25:20Jake Paul is in the news once again to defend his boxing
- 1:25:24prowess against International political pundit Piers Morgan
- 1:25:29who called Paul's unanimous victory over Julio Cesar Chavez
- 1:25:33Jr. On Saturday and unwatchable
- 1:25:35farce Morgan continued, that Paul is killing boxing with his
- 1:25:40boring stage BS against older Fighters way past.
- 1:25:43Their Prime Morgan's post has more than irritated Paul and his
- 1:25:47camp and most valuable Productions stating that the
- 1:25:50comments are baseless and irresponsible and not only
- 1:25:53undermines the Integrity of the sport but is the Fami and causes
- 1:25:57reputational damage to MVP Jake Paul.
- 1:26:00And the commission, enough is enough, we will be exploring all
- 1:26:03options including legal action to hold accountable, those
- 1:26:07spreading, such deliberate and harmful lies.
- 1:26:11While Jacob call may be, right, he may be any maybe a ranked
- 1:26:14boxer now technically, his threatening to sue people
- 1:26:17calling him out for the obvious is a little much even for
- 1:26:21someone who wouldn't watch Piers Morgan in a gazillion years,
- 1:26:23maybe Paul will get to fight a current box or improve his case.
- 1:26:27Once for all once, and for all but we all know there's less
- 1:26:30money in him doing that class Story.
- 1:26:33Indiana Fever took home the WNBA commissioner's cup with out star
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- 1:26:41home MVP on his 16 points, 12 rebounds and four says, Clark
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- 1:26:50tournament cup over the Minnesota Lynx.
- 1:26:52We have a resilient group, you know, fever coach Stephanie.
- 1:26:55White said they're tough. Mentally and physically.
- 1:26:57They pull for one another. I'm just really proud.
- 1:27:00We're gonna continue to get better.
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- 1:28:14Peedy our executive producer, Mr. Aaron Fish Fishman on the
- 1:28:17board. Ladies and gentlemen, Tommy
- 1:28:19poops. This is gonna be now a month and
- 1:28:21a half in, for Tommy, as our board up and then ladies and
- 1:28:25gentlemen are interns Jake, Aaron Zach, they're all over
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- 1:28:47to website at www.worldwide.com. I just want to say something
- 1:28:52your face during that basket ball, you know, back and forth
- 1:28:57banter. And the way you got like just
- 1:29:00aggressively angry that was that was much watch.
- 1:29:04I mean, me, Tommy, when we went to break, we were laughing.
- 1:29:07That was, it was one of the Funniest things.
- 1:29:09And if I could rewind that and look at your face when you came
- 1:29:13back into the, the conversation that was something that we
- 1:29:17definitely have to cut up and pop up because that phase was
- 1:29:20just endlessly. Funny.
- 1:29:21So, I just want to let you know that it would definitely stood
- 1:29:24out to me so far on this show, no matter what we talk about
- 1:29:27now, for the rest of this show, your face was perfect.
- 1:29:31We got to cut that out fish and put that up.
- 1:29:34That was awesome. Okay, it's sexy.
- 1:29:36I get it. Ladies and gentlemen, we call
- 1:29:41the segments sounded out here in that.
- 1:29:45No, Jake. Paul in here.
- 1:29:46Do you mean Jacqueline? Let's sound it out.
- 1:29:49What you call me? Sound it out.
- 1:29:53Welcome back, everybody to another episode of sound it out,
- 1:29:59Onyx Harold's. Got the NHL draft Suk place on
- 1:30:06Friday. Last week, we got some names
- 1:30:09from the draft. Are you ready, too?
- 1:30:15All right. Peter Andrea Andrea.
- 1:30:20Andre North. All done, Andre, you know?
- 1:30:24Andrea. Audrey enough.
- 1:30:27What do you think? I mean, I would say it's Andrea
- 1:30:31off. but, We'll allow it, we'll allow it.
- 1:30:37All right, it's it's Peter, it's Peter, you know, but we'll, it's
- 1:30:42Peter, you're not wrong. That's how it would be spelled
- 1:30:45for Peter. One, for one arrow, on the NHL
- 1:30:49draft. Didn't expect you this hot out
- 1:30:52of the gate. Let's keep the music rolling.
- 1:30:56Our next name coming on up for you Harold.
- 1:30:59Can't wait, here it is. Sounded out Francisco.
- 1:31:06To lecce. What is this?
- 1:31:13What is this? First off.
- 1:31:16It's Francesco. All right, well, Francisco.
- 1:31:18What is it? What is it?
- 1:31:24What's his last name, Speedy? I don't know how to pronounce
- 1:31:26the last name. I know that you guys yesterday.
- 1:31:31All right, I get a half a point because you guys don't know how
- 1:31:36to spell it. I mean you guys certainly not
- 1:31:38dolce de leche The type of like jelly.
- 1:31:43I mean, come on. How do you you guys don't even
- 1:31:45know how to sound it out. And you're gonna get, you got to
- 1:31:48give me half a point for that. You have to you guys.
- 1:31:50Don't know it. So that's I have a point.
- 1:31:52That's one and a half for me. Oh yes.
- 1:31:55It out real quick. Yeah, look at this, that ladies
- 1:32:00and gentlemen, we play sound it out and these guys make fun of
- 1:32:02me on how I pronounce these hockey names.
- 1:32:04These guys don't even know how to pronounce it pronounce their
- 1:32:07names either. So how am I a loser on this
- 1:32:10game? I should be a winner every
- 1:32:13single. I think it's still alive, so not
- 1:32:16not gonna get that one. But one for two is for batting
- 1:32:18500. Okay, pretty good, we got one
- 1:32:21more Tommy, get the music going here, it is one more chance
- 1:32:25Arrow. To sound it out.
- 1:32:32This one I saw over the Internet, okay?
- 1:32:35Elias. My gosh medal.
- 1:32:43Say it all together. Elias.
- 1:32:46Back on Med, Salt tunnel. Oh, come on.
- 1:32:53Oh mag, omed sultano. All right, I don't know.
- 1:33:02I'm gonna give you that one. How do you pronounce?
- 1:33:05I'm gonna give it to you two out of three.
- 1:33:06It's definitely Ilias. Okay.
- 1:33:09All right Ilyas. Mago midsole tanev.
- 1:33:13All right, that's not bad. I got I'm not sure if that's how
- 1:33:17it's pronounced. But I don't see how it could be
- 1:33:21pronounced something else, it's just the longest I've ever seen.
- 1:33:26They. Yeah, so it's the second one was
- 1:33:28Francesco. Del J.
- 1:33:31Del LJ. Yep.
- 1:33:34Dial. That's a tough one.
- 1:33:36Well, hold on. With second.
- 1:33:37I wasn't that. Far off.
- 1:33:39Was I you were you got the first name?
- 1:33:41Completely wrong. All right, but I wasn't.
- 1:33:43Are you made fun of what I said at the end sounded like you
- 1:33:46said, Dolce whatever, They're not foolish what I was saying,
- 1:33:51Hey listen, I I'm thinking of food because I can't have it
- 1:33:54right now, so I might as well enjoy thinking about it and
- 1:33:58anyway, please don't don't complain to me about any of
- 1:34:01that. Well, I, I could eat this stuff,
- 1:34:03but I'm trying to be a little bit more careful.
- 1:34:05I am not drinking any sugar drinks.
- 1:34:07I'm going to stay away from it for the next couple of months,
- 1:34:10but besides that, I should be allowed to eat whatever I want.
- 1:34:13If I'm not drinking the sugar drinks because that's what.
- 1:34:16That's my killer. Anybody that knows anything
- 1:34:18about sugar drinks. If there is any like, Crush
- 1:34:22Soda, Crush, Crush, Crush grape, or any of that stuff around me,
- 1:34:26I am swallowing that bottle down.
- 1:34:28I like lemonade too, love my lemonade.
- 1:34:30So I have to stay away from all of that.
- 1:34:33For the next, dude, just die. I gotta go.
- 1:34:36Die it or let me die. To what?
- 1:34:38I'm not just diet lemonade. I'll just lemonade.
- 1:34:44I don't want diet for getting iced tea.
- 1:34:46I'll just well, welcome to being Part of the, the anti sugar
- 1:34:51World. Well, I'm just, I'm not gonna
- 1:34:55stay away from sugar, I'm just gonna stay away from sugar
- 1:34:57drinks. That's what I'm gonna stay away.
- 1:34:58You should try to stay away from unnatural sugar.
- 1:35:01That's the general thing. They say like hundred and stuff.
- 1:35:04Like that's not terrible refrying refined, okay?
- 1:35:07I want to have some cake. Why can't I have some cake?
- 1:35:10I'm not gonna stay away. sure, just get the ones that have the
- 1:35:16sugar free or the no sugar added.
- 1:35:18So I have to stay away from sugar, completely, come on, get
- 1:35:22out of here. I'm not that Arrow.
- 1:35:23If you just say like, oh, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna eat the
- 1:35:27soda but I'm gonna eat cake. That doesn't change that you
- 1:35:30need. I have Shia was gonna eat cake
- 1:35:32every day, but if I want to have a week, I could have cake once a
- 1:35:37week. Why not?
- 1:35:37I'm just saying you could you the way that I, when I found
- 1:35:41that I was type 1 diabetic and I don't have that.
- 1:35:44No. But I just found a bunch of
- 1:35:46desserts that were similar to desserts.
- 1:35:48I would want to have and then after you don't, you don't have
- 1:35:51sugar for a few weeks, you don't really like miss it like that,
- 1:35:54and you just want to have a desert.
- 1:35:56So you can have like a very low sugar, Brownie and ice cream,
- 1:35:59and things like that, and you, and it's not that bad, it really
- 1:36:02isn't. But it's a big change.
- 1:36:05It is man. I like I said, it's Fourth of
- 1:36:07July, on Friday. I am going to have, I'm not
- 1:36:09gonna drink any sugar drinks, but I am going to have some cake
- 1:36:12and I'm gonna have the opportunity to Joy, my fourth of
- 1:36:15July, and then I'll go back to, you know, being being this
- 1:36:19garbage. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:36:22we call the next segment, King of the Hill.
- 1:36:25Here's the King of the Hill. This Bobby is the Beltline you
- 1:36:30never ever hit below that. Not that kind of King of the
- 1:36:33Hill you dumb. This is King of the Hill.
- 1:36:38All right. Where's the boy guys?
- 1:36:39Bring them in everybody. Come on in for King of the Hill.
- 1:36:42You guys know the drill. It's everyone trying to Dethrone
- 1:36:47the king. The king is Arrow marks.
- 1:36:49At this time, we got music for this as well.
- 1:36:52We can throw on in the first round.
- 1:36:53It's a peasant fight and it's going to be everyone versus
- 1:36:56everyone. The two guys that do the best
- 1:36:59according to King Arrow will go on to the joust.
- 1:37:02And in the joust, they will battle it out to go to the final
- 1:37:06round to take on the king and whoever wins will be decided by
- 1:37:09all of the king's subjects. See if he stays the king or we
- 1:37:12have a new king for next week's game, you guys ready to play
- 1:37:16King of the Hill? That's take a dump.
- 1:37:19Let's go. All right, so we've got, I heard
- 1:37:22some criticism about this. So I changed some of the topics
- 1:37:26here real quick. We're going to go starting off
- 1:37:29around one best power forwards of all time.
- 1:37:33Had to be a power forward in the NBA.
- 1:37:37All right. Now, that's what we're, that's
- 1:37:39the rule. The old definition of what a
- 1:37:42power forward is. Let's call it our angle.
- 1:37:46I'll be over here. The king is here, and we have
- 1:37:49five competitors. That's how we're on.
- 1:37:52We'll start it off. Let's get the interns, don't
- 1:37:55like it when they go with the end.
- 1:37:57So we'll put them in the middle and we'll start it off schools.
- 1:38:01Best power forward of all time. I'm gonna go with, Tim Duncan
- 1:38:04pretty obvious choice as one of the best big men of all time
- 1:38:08basically. Um, Tim Duncan was just that
- 1:38:11dude. Basically, the measuring stick
- 1:38:12of what a power forward, should be for quite some time, and
- 1:38:16five-time champion, and really Stellar play all around two
- 1:38:19time, MVP as well. Give me Tim Duncan.
- 1:38:22All right, job. I'm gonna go with my guy.
- 1:38:26Good friend of mine Charles Barkley.
- 1:38:30Played the position. Obviously he had the nickname
- 1:38:32for a reason. You know, coming coming out of
- 1:38:37Auburn and doing what he did at his size is that position and
- 1:38:40kind of facilitating and what he was and how he was able to take
- 1:38:44over games and explosive. And Just One of a Kind
- 1:38:49personality too, that's for sure.
- 1:38:51All right, Aaron. I'm gonna go with ski.
- 1:38:56You could possibly see one of the best players and is in his
- 1:39:00era when playing with, with off, CJ, Lebron, James, and Kobe.
- 1:39:04All those guys winning in Dallas against the Miami Heat.
- 1:39:07You can, you can really put him up there with any of us off for
- 1:39:11his honestly in the NBA for what he did and coming in with this
- 1:39:14so she unique shot but yes I will go over there.
- 1:39:18It's all right, Jake I'm gonna go with the big ticket to go to
- 1:39:23Kevin Garnett. Probably the best argue, the
- 1:39:26best of power for it all time. Also could, you know, some of
- 1:39:30their, you know, carry Minnesota for a long time.
- 1:39:33You know, they almost to the finals.
- 1:39:35Didn't quite make it, then he goes over to Boston and helps
- 1:39:37them win a championship with the original big three array Allen
- 1:39:40and Paul Pierce and the kg Lockdown Defender and probably
- 1:39:44the best soccer ball time. All right.
- 1:39:48Speedy for two. All right, fish.
- 1:39:50I don't know if this qualified I'm gonna I want to go with two
- 1:39:53of the same name though, if that's the case as Moses.
- 1:39:56Malone, consider power forward or center before in that.
- 1:39:59Okay. All right, yeah, so I'm gonna go
- 1:40:01with him to start. Obviously I mentioned Julius
- 1:40:03Erving, an art debate last week as part of that Sixers team
- 1:40:06alone obviously was the other big guy great great rebounder.
- 1:40:09One of the best of his era defending defensively and again
- 1:40:12a tough tough group that they play against I guess.
- 1:40:14So Celtics teams and all over the years so I'll go with him
- 1:40:17for one and then I it's great if a defensive player but one of
- 1:40:20the best offensive power forward, we have ever seen all
- 1:40:23the mailman for a reason. And I think again we talked
- 1:40:25about error adjusted guys, probably would be one of the
- 1:40:27better Shooters today's game. If you were playing at that time
- 1:40:30because he was prolific scorer, holding a couple score records
- 1:40:32for a while. All right, back to Jake.
- 1:40:37All right, so my next pick, I'm gonna go with pelvis.
- 1:40:39Saw pretty much was Kobe's running mate.
- 1:40:41For the second half of the Lakers.
- 1:40:43He was great on offense, great defender as well.
- 1:40:46He was pretty much secondary school and he was, you know,
- 1:40:49always there for me in this place.
- 1:40:50You know, the shots think, like, come up, get a grab rebounds
- 1:40:54back up and he always just, you know, helpful glue guy for Kobe
- 1:40:58whenever he needed. So, yeah.
- 1:41:00Aaron. Oh, I just I just had the
- 1:41:05vanilla and alcohol forgot. Sorry.
- 1:41:07Also check out Excuse me. I I literally just had it.
- 1:41:13Well, skip you. Well, you might lose them Java.
- 1:41:15Yes, what happens Java. I'm gonna go not a real sexy pic
- 1:41:21but I'm gonna go Horace. Grant.
- 1:41:24His individual stats weren't great, but he was such a pivotal
- 1:41:28impact player in knew his role. he did make an All-Star game, he
- 1:41:32won four rings, had a great career and I just I loved that
- 1:41:37he knew what his role was and didn't care about the individual
- 1:41:41stats because as we see but I think there's an impact of what
- 1:41:44he did for the teams that he played on that.
- 1:41:47That makes him silently. Go down as as one of the best.
- 1:41:51All right, Aaron he got anything.
- 1:41:54Was Dennis Rodman. Considered a powerful powerful.
- 1:41:57Yes. So Dennis and Dennis Rodman.
- 1:42:00I mean, honestly, you can say with the Pistons with the Bulls
- 1:42:02are one of the best in his Arrow.
- 1:42:04Playing with Michael Jordan, playing one of the best spot for
- 1:42:09its at least in his era getting rebounds getting having this
- 1:42:13crazy stat line. But I'm gonna who was your first
- 1:42:16guy Aaron? If I think it was it, I think I
- 1:42:20might have been Chris Bosh. Maybe I was in my head and once
- 1:42:24it got once I came in, once I was like ready know, your first
- 1:42:28pick he's saying, Who's your first day?
- 1:42:30Yeah. Who's your friend?
- 1:42:32Oh my God. Dark?
- 1:42:33What I say dark? Yeah, I said dirty.
- 1:42:36Okay, Tommy for two. All right, I'm gonna go.
- 1:42:40Nobody wants Charles, Barkley. Correct.
- 1:42:41No job at the job. Yeah, I believe it's one of the
- 1:42:44first ones taken, Tommy. Let me go with.
- 1:42:48Let me go with someone like Shawn Kemp Sean Kemp for a while
- 1:42:52was known as one of the best dunkers in the league.
- 1:42:55Pretty much pretty dominant defensive, dude.
- 1:42:58Pretty big guy who had a yam it down on people and I'm gonna go,
- 1:43:01Sean Penn and my number two, This one might be unpopular, but
- 1:43:07I'm gonna go Giannis. I'm gonna go with Giannis
- 1:43:08antetokounmpo, basically very dominant player of recent
- 1:43:12memories. Very one of the biggest dominant
- 1:43:15defensive guys, in the recent years of the recent NBA era.
- 1:43:19So I'm gonna go on us. I wouldn't call yanis.
- 1:43:22A power forward know. He's alive.
- 1:43:24He's a five, he's a five. I think.
- 1:43:28Yeah, never played forever. He's a pleasant play for it.
- 1:43:32He's a fine. He doesn't really play like a
- 1:43:36place more like a four. I mean I you could say it's a
- 1:43:39four I would say he's more like a point guard as a center.
- 1:43:42That's why it feels like he's going forward or maybe like
- 1:43:46stretch four or five. It's just defensively.
- 1:43:49He plays five. know, I understand that, I don't really
- 1:43:52think he's listed as A set, you know, when you do like daily
- 1:43:57fantasy it's like he's usually at like a center or like a
- 1:44:00hybrids like it's powerful. Yeah.
- 1:44:02It's I would say it's not powerful because I've never seen
- 1:44:04them deeper did deeper. Mister.
- 1:44:09There's a lot of good ones. There's a lot of good ones you
- 1:44:12know that ball, don't lie still available.
- 1:44:17You just all right Fisher. I need to get confirmation
- 1:44:20pelvis, all power. He's already taking who took
- 1:44:23him? All right.
- 1:44:28Well, you know, I'm gonna, I think I'm gonna have to go old
- 1:44:31school then. Um, To I go.
- 1:44:38I'm not going to crackhead. You guys know I'm talking about.
- 1:44:44um, I think, you know, I'm gonna go It's between two.
- 1:44:53I don't. Know I'm not picking Lamar Odom
- 1:44:56shity serious job again just give me one.
- 1:45:00Let's I'm gonna go Larry Nance okay obviously high flying guy
- 1:45:05just would kind of like I think was one of the initial
- 1:45:10electrifying athleticism at that position was a great shot,
- 1:45:15blocker protected, the paint Stylistically.
- 1:45:19I think was, was a guy that brought something at the power
- 1:45:22forward position before a lot of guys did.
- 1:45:24So yeah, I'm gonna go with my man, Larry Nance and his son
- 1:45:29dunked with his jersey on, which was dope.
- 1:45:30I remember that Aaron. All right, I'm gonna go with
- 1:45:34Chris Webber. Chris Robert.
- 1:45:36I mean honestly I again and it's era.
- 1:45:38Oh, I want to one of the best in his Arrow playing against the
- 1:45:41Lakers. And that in that early 2000
- 1:45:44series Kings, bringing the king's guys, remember who you
- 1:45:49picked, because we're gonna before I make my design.
- 1:45:51I want to know who exactly you bet.
- 1:45:53Again, one of the best in Zara brought the Kingston at least in
- 1:45:56those early 2000 days almost to the finals.
- 1:45:58But yeah she's such a dynamic player special, what he did in
- 1:46:02the college basketball, but the NBA going with Jake.
- 1:46:07I have to ask, Will you guys give me Kevin Durant?
- 1:46:12I would I know, right? I would yeah.
- 1:46:17I give him most of his career, he was a three.
- 1:46:20I wouldn't say, I'll make a difference.
- 1:46:22If you guys don't want me, I won't, I would say that's a
- 1:46:24stretch but it's up to the king. Yeah, I'll allow that.
- 1:46:28Yes, Kevin Durant. Okay.
- 1:46:29All right, all right, well I'm gonna stick with Easy Money
- 1:46:31Sniper then Kevin Durant. All these times Champion for
- 1:46:34MVP, pretty much 611. You know, he plays a good guard
- 1:46:38at 6:11 and shoot the lights out for pretty much anywhere there's
- 1:46:41super clutch and, you know, going against arrows, favorite
- 1:46:44meal Jaya. He was taking down the Cleveland
- 1:46:47Cavaliers all the time and it Kevin Durant, obviously.
- 1:46:49Now he's gonna be, you know, fuck it.
- 1:46:51He's constantly fucking get her. One of the greatest Shooters of
- 1:46:54all time as a special and he was underrated.
- 1:47:00And Speedy to finish it up. All right.
- 1:47:02I'll go with the same name. Different last name Kevin McHale
- 1:47:04and there's 80 Celtics teams, obviously one of the better
- 1:47:07Defenders rebounders at that era.
- 1:47:09Very I got one of the we a lot of our guests say one of the
- 1:47:12most balanced eras when it came to the dynasty teams and that
- 1:47:15Celtics team. Like they're all saying a few
- 1:47:17weeks ago definitely one of the best ever and Kevin McHale
- 1:47:19defensively as an anchor to go along with Robert Parish big
- 1:47:22reason why for that All right, that's everybody names.
- 1:47:26We didn't hear. We're Rasheed Wallace.
- 1:47:29Dave, debusschere. Someone took my cow.
- 1:47:32Bob Pettit should probably if you're gonna go old school.
- 1:47:35Probably thought about Elvin Hayes too.
- 1:47:37Jerry Lucas is another one to go all the way back.
- 1:47:42No one said Blake Griffin. You figure remember his Peak was
- 1:47:47pretty nice there for a while as well.
- 1:47:49It's not a whole. Who's going on to the house.
- 1:47:50Um, Tommy, who did you pick your?
- 1:47:53Three guys. Um, I picked Barkley.
- 1:47:56Duncan and no, I think you don't even know who you picked
- 1:48:00Eliminator know twice. I did not you Play.
- 1:48:15I win the game. I told you to make sure where's
- 1:48:19my power forward. Barkley Horace, Grant Larry
- 1:48:27Nance, okay? Aaron Aaron had dirt.
- 1:48:30Oh no no don't say anything. I want to hear if you know, he
- 1:48:35knows what he picked. Go ahead, Aaron.
- 1:48:39Oh yeah, it was dirt. Okay, Weber and Rodman.
- 1:48:44Okay. Jake, who'd you pick?
- 1:48:48I kg Powell and KD. Speedy.
- 1:48:52And I had an awesome Malone's Carl and Moses and Kevin McHale.
- 1:48:56Okay, so I'm gonna take Speedy for sure because he knows these
- 1:49:00guys he gave me information, he understands what these guys did
- 1:49:06in the league. So I'm going with Speedy I I
- 1:49:09really like Aaron and Jake's too so I'll let them both.
- 1:49:12All three of them move on to the the Jaws because they all had
- 1:49:15really good picks. I, I was very surprised.
- 1:49:18Tommy didn't realize in, the only reason why I didn't pick
- 1:49:21you up is Larry Nan's know, I Horace Mann, I could see because
- 1:49:27that, at one point, Horace Grant was a big part of those early
- 1:49:30Bulls championships. And I like tours Clan, tell me
- 1:49:34with the glasses and and but when he was traded, I mean he
- 1:49:37wasn't the same player, but I know, you know, the glasses
- 1:49:41story, too? He was legally blind.
- 1:49:42Yeah, that's why he worm, yes. But then he got Lasik and he
- 1:49:46didn't wear them for a while and he was getting letters from kids
- 1:49:49that he made the glasses. Cool.
- 1:49:51So, that's why he kept wearing them.
- 1:49:53That's true story. I forget about Grandma, you
- 1:49:55either know as well over at power forward.
- 1:49:57All right, so we got a manager joust going on right now.
- 1:50:03For round two. Don't know how that would work
- 1:50:05in Tommy. If you remember your guys, if
- 1:50:08you remembered your guys you could have moved on.
- 1:50:10You've got your guys you got to write it down, you got to
- 1:50:12remember who you pick. I mean remember what I remember
- 1:50:15it was now and honest it just I don't think Giannis was counted.
- 1:50:19All right, let's move on to the joust.
- 1:50:23This one's a fun one. Biggest NBA draft busts of all
- 1:50:28time. Arrow.
- 1:50:30Who do you got? Let's just let's get everyone
- 1:50:33out. That's not in this one and let's
- 1:50:36get back to our camera. And here we go.
- 1:50:39Started off with whoever you want Arrow, who starred in this?
- 1:50:43Let's go. Let's go Aaron.
- 1:50:46Jake speedy. Speedy knows so.
- 1:50:50Speedy has, he has to be the handicapper because Speedy knows
- 1:50:53more than these guys. All right.
- 1:50:55Aaron biggest draft, Bust The Vault time.
- 1:50:58Okay, I mean off the bat, I was probably one of the biggest but
- 1:51:02again on top of my head, Kevin Knox with one of them for me. 20
- 1:51:10years. So.
- 1:51:11Yeah, 2018. But I remember that picking him
- 1:51:13at. You know, how that makes goal?
- 1:51:15They pick a guy. Everyone's gonna be great and I
- 1:51:19mean, I think, I believe it's only somewhere else but yeah, I
- 1:51:21want to You definitely not one of the best picks and he's
- 1:51:28probably up there. One of the biggest books Arrow.
- 1:51:31You remember how much Maddie caps and Jeff both love Kevin
- 1:51:33knocks out of the draft. It's like, oh we gotta see you.
- 1:51:36Haven't not was in a boss, he wasn't the number one pick so I
- 1:51:40wouldn't say he was but he was a bike.
- 1:51:42Yeah, but he wasn't a number one pick.
- 1:51:43He's not one of the worst busts of all he was a top 10 Pig.
- 1:51:46It doesn't matter. He's not it.
- 1:51:47You, if you're gonna go with a bus, you go with a number two,
- 1:51:50one number two, and number three, that's where you go.
- 1:51:52You know, if I were to tell you that he was taken ahead of his
- 1:51:56Kentucky team and teammate, Shay Gil, just Alexander, is it still
- 1:52:00not a bust? Know, I would I don't I don't
- 1:52:03call there's a lot of other guys.
- 1:52:05There are a lot of other guys. They're a lot of.
- 1:52:08All right, Jake. Hi, this one's pretty easy for
- 1:52:12me. I'm gonna go with number two,
- 1:52:14overall pick 2003 dark on Milledge.
- 1:52:16It's pretty pretty bad. Look, when you get picked in the
- 1:52:19middle of four hall of famers and, you know, one of them still
- 1:52:22playing to this day. I mean, you look at it like
- 1:52:24LeBron go and he's going to the Hall of Fame, Carmelo, Anthony,
- 1:52:27Chris, Bosh, and Dwayne Wade, all Hall, famous currently, and
- 1:52:30you don't even really know who dark milk that just now.
- 1:52:32And that's just a horrible, horrible one for the tension.
- 1:52:34So yeah, it's pretty easy. One for me, Speedy for two.
- 1:52:37All right, so I'll go with a number one over.
- 1:52:39I'll pick you mentioned. LeBron his former team, the cash
- 1:52:42I think Anthony Bennett number one, overall at 2013 40x, that
- 1:52:46was bad that was never thought of even if it's barely, a top 10
- 1:52:49pick. Nevertheless, the number one
- 1:52:51overall pick in that drafted. A lot of those other guys in
- 1:52:54that dress, didn't turn out very good either.
- 1:52:55But he better with a guy that was just tall and athletic but
- 1:53:00had barely any skill on offense whatsoever.
- 1:53:02Yikes, so that's number one. And the number two, I'll go with
- 1:53:04the Memphis Grizzlies number two overall, pick a cheap, one of
- 1:53:07the other highly hyped, big men at that time so I could overall
- 1:53:11now okay and end up recovering nicely after that getting
- 1:53:14gasoline and rant and ran off from the time to build that
- 1:53:17great and grind team. But drafting him to not help
- 1:53:19either. Hashem.
- 1:53:21The dream, the beat Jake. All right, so for my second
- 1:53:26pick, I am going to go with a Michael, Jordan draft, pick
- 1:53:30himself Kwame. Brown number one overall, pick
- 1:53:33back in the day and over the Washington Wizards.
- 1:53:36All you really have to know about all my ground is.
- 1:53:38This viral? Stephen, Ace of the book.
- 1:53:40This man is a bona fide scrub. It can't play no disrespect, but
- 1:53:45this man cannot play the game of basketball.
- 1:53:46He has small hands. It doesn't really know what he
- 1:53:49doesn't. Really have a post move or a jab
- 1:53:51or a move that he can do and put two together.
- 1:53:55So yeah, on my brows. Aaron for two.
- 1:54:00All right, so I'll go on this one.
- 1:54:02I go, I'll go back to your prior, let me 17 with my cocoa.
- 1:54:06So that that's a bus and I have, I remember when it happened and
- 1:54:10everyone was really happening this guy up and the Sixers win
- 1:54:12within their trusted process kind of Arrow.
- 1:54:15But cute ended up being absolutely nobody.
- 1:54:18And I don't know, buddy, he really didn't do anything.
- 1:54:21I don't think he even from what I remember, he was just hurt all
- 1:54:24from off the bat and never really did anything.
- 1:54:26He forgot how much he forgot how to shoot that.
- 1:54:29Never learned how to shoot. That's the real question.
- 1:54:30That's right. So I'll go back to him and say
- 1:54:34Marco folks. All right, and your last pick.
- 1:54:38my last pin code that I just have Oh, moving on to go to the
- 1:54:422003 draft and say don't go. Now we already had went so that
- 1:54:48I'll give you a hint. There is a guy that's still
- 1:54:51playing for the Nets right now. Making a lot of money.
- 1:54:53Okay, there's one. Oh yeah and stands out.
- 1:54:59There's one. I'm thinking of that.
- 1:55:00No one said. Yeah, I know another one.
- 1:55:01I know a couple of them. I know a couple of them.
- 1:55:03So, you know, I'll throw out Ben Simmons.
- 1:55:06That's guy really. Honestly, honestly, do he was
- 1:55:17terrible. He's Like was it was it was ever
- 1:55:24since that lay up that he couldn't tell.
- 1:55:28Yes, 100% of us. All right.
- 1:55:31Jake Should say really pretty Aaron you say in those six years
- 1:55:36picks, that really hurt me that hurt me to my core man.
- 1:55:38That just a couple that actually a couple.
- 1:55:40He's so forget about Errol, he's actually on the he's on the
- 1:55:43Clippers now. He's not even on the Nets but
- 1:55:44whatever. Anyway, for my last pick I'm
- 1:55:47gonna go with back to the 1984 draft know, Sam Bowie.
- 1:55:51Another similar to darker melted in the middle of Elijah and
- 1:55:56argue with the greatest player of all time.
- 1:55:57Michael Jordan the only average about like 10 points and he
- 1:56:00didn't even play that long. He never really had a very
- 1:56:02memorable career and you know, looking back.
- 1:56:04Obviously at the time before in the NBA, they thought enters
- 1:56:07were the The Meta and that was kind of like I'd have a center.
- 1:56:09Are you working on doing anything?
- 1:56:10And looking out how to guards game and how Michael Jordan was
- 1:56:13pretty much the Prototype player with the NBA was more into you.
- 1:56:17It's not a good look for Portland in San Luis, so yeah.
- 1:56:20Classic and Speedy to finish it up.
- 1:56:22I'll finish it off with Adam Morris and Charlotte Bobcats, a
- 1:56:26Gonzaga obviously power forward, high draft pick at the time and
- 1:56:30never amount to anything. I don't want that everyone
- 1:56:33thought like Anthony Bennett would be overly skilled in the
- 1:56:35NBA at that position trying to be that game changing type like
- 1:56:38Chris Bosh wasn't his position, definitely not the case.
- 1:56:41Guys forgot about old before came from the Duke Blue Devils.
- 1:56:45There's a guy that I remember when I was a kid, they was
- 1:56:47drafted like late 90s, the Candy, Man, Michael Oher.
- 1:56:51Was he terrible Clippers couldn't play dead in the cows.
- 1:56:56Gave Craig Road. Yes true.
- 1:56:59Greg Oden he wasn't just had that injury that ruin his
- 1:57:04career. He wasn't a bus.
- 1:57:04He was gonna be special. It's just well, I mean I mean
- 1:57:07not gonna play but like still I didn't live up that.
- 1:57:09Yeah. If you're gonna say that, you
- 1:57:11could say Len Bias, right? Yeah, yeah.
- 1:57:13Never played it a game, right. So, right, right, right.
- 1:57:17All right, arrow, who's moving on to the finals.
- 1:57:19It was really, really close with Jake and speed.
- 1:57:22It really was and I can go either or But I'm gonna go with
- 1:57:27speedy. Speedy was pretty much on Target
- 1:57:30on two of them. And I was thinking of two of
- 1:57:33them and Jake, you were wrong about some of the first two
- 1:57:36picks that you went with. So I was very close, very, very
- 1:57:40I'm surprised that you was much as she did.
- 1:57:42But I'm gonna go. It's All right, guys, I will say
- 1:57:47that last dance. Documentary definitely did help
- 1:57:49a lot but yeah, goodbye but good luck, Speedy.
- 1:57:52All right, everybody back in right now for the finals for the
- 1:57:57voting portion of the finals. And we're going to go into this
- 1:58:02last stage. A chance to take on the king,
- 1:58:06Speedy with a chance to throw in the king.
- 1:58:09Let's see what's coming up in round three.
- 1:58:12It's going to be a good one. Arrow, you're gonna love this
- 1:58:14best fights of our time. Not fair to.
- 1:58:18This could be either UFC, it could be boxing.
- 1:58:21It could be Mike Milbury attacking fans with a skate, it
- 1:58:27could be whatever you consider to be the best fights of all
- 1:58:32time. Could be bum, fights, whatever
- 1:58:35it is. You decide.
- 1:58:36Let's see what she got Arrow. You want to go first or second,
- 1:58:40I'm gonna go first. First.
- 1:58:44All right. Arrow number one.
- 1:58:45The Thrilla in Manila Muhammad Ali versus Joe, Frazier 1975.
- 1:58:50I remember that. And and who doesn't remember
- 1:58:53that fight? One of the more Realistic fights
- 1:58:58that we can remember in boxing history, two of the best
- 1:59:01fighters, one from Philadelphia, the other one who doesn't shut
- 1:59:03the hell up and Muhammad Ali. Mr. Tippy toes himself and it
- 1:59:09was a great fight. One of the greatest fights I've
- 1:59:12ever. Well, I never got a chance to
- 1:59:13see, but I watched the replay of the fire.
- 1:59:15So one of the greatest boxing fights I've ever seen.
- 1:59:17So I'm gonna go with Thriller. Yeah.
- 1:59:19So thank you for giving me ideas of how to be creative for this.
- 1:59:22What I'll start with the baseball fight, I don't know it,
- 1:59:24right? I go after Robin Ventura and
- 1:59:26inside for when Ventura the White Sox and Nolan, Ryan with
- 1:59:30the Texas Rangers, everything's a bigger in Texas as they always
- 1:59:32say and you don't want to mess with the guy that, that is one
- 1:59:35of the greatest pitchers ever and Robin Ventura.
- 1:59:37I'm at the legend. Definitely learned that I love
- 1:59:41that thick Errol. I'm gonna go, Marvin Hagler
- 1:59:47versus Tommy Hearns in 1985, one of the greatest fights back and
- 1:59:52forth. You're talking about two of the
- 1:59:53best fighters in the division of all time.
- 1:59:56You when you talk about top 10 greatest Fighters, you're gonna
- 1:59:59put Marvin Hagler and Tommy Hearns great, one of the
- 2:00:02greatest fights in 95. And, and if you remember, if you
- 2:00:05watch any of the old movies or movies that they bring back true
- 2:00:08stories, that fight always pops up in the movies because it's
- 2:00:11standing, stood out from all the rest.
- 2:00:13So, I'm gonna go Marvin Hackler, and Tommy Hearns.
- 2:00:16All right, we go with me, talking about a month ago and
- 2:00:18the Allison, the palace, why not?
- 2:00:19Go with that one Pistons Pacers we're on our test.
- 2:00:22Obviously, all those guys instigating with the fans and a
- 2:00:26really stood the test of time and obviously a lot of our
- 2:00:29guests have mentioned that too experience that they've had in
- 2:00:32the mall of the palace. Still being talked about almost
- 2:00:3420 years ago today, with the Pacers and the Pistons, all the
- 2:00:36wallaces and Metta World. Peace, AKA rotor.
- 2:00:39Whatever you want to call. I'm trying, I'm trying it.
- 2:00:42I'm trying to figure out but I'm trying to think of a fight like
- 2:00:48a mixed martial arts fight, that really stood out for me.
- 2:00:50Over the years, I could go to a couple of them, but I'm trying
- 2:00:55to, I'm trying to stand because I know Jake loves mixed martial
- 2:00:58arts. So I'm trying to think of one
- 2:01:00that really, really, you know what, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go
- 2:01:03with this one because this, this is a, this is a fight I remember
- 2:01:06and may rest in peace, Mr. Stephan, bonnar, the Forrest
- 2:01:11Griffin fight versus Stephan bonnar.
- 2:01:14I don't know if anybody seen this fight.
- 2:01:15This fight was a war Forrest Griffin, who won the next
- 2:01:19Ultimate Fighter? And and Bonner was a guy.
- 2:01:22These guys were two friends, they got a long on and off out
- 2:01:26of the Octagon. They beat the hell out of each
- 2:01:28other. In the Octagon.
- 2:01:29It was one of the greatest UFC fights you'll ever watch.
- 2:01:32It was fantastic to watch and Forrest Griffin.
- 2:01:35After that fight became a superstar.
- 2:01:37So I'm gonna go with that fight. All right.
- 2:01:38I'll go with the one boxing that I can remember the exact matchup
- 2:01:41of and that's Mike Tyson getting upset in the 80s by by buster.
- 2:01:46Douglas, I do remember that strangely, that's like, don't
- 2:01:48know boxing. I remember that.
- 2:01:51One is consider the greatest upset at that time.
- 2:01:53So I feel like I have some water.
- 2:01:55Has to have some water. All right?
- 2:01:57And a merit of like, obviously the Throne of the Manila is
- 2:02:01obviously the most thought of boxing one.
- 2:02:03I've got one more that I I'm sure there's others.
- 2:02:05I don't know the exact combinations of the fighters
- 2:02:07though. So it doesn't help us much.
- 2:02:08I've got one too, Arrow, get give us your You know, other
- 2:02:13ones that you wanted to say because I'm sure this is a well
- 2:02:15topic for you. Matt, Sarah versus the one and
- 2:02:19only, you know, I'm talking about, go ahead, Jake, I'll let
- 2:02:21you give you his name because I think he's one of the greatest
- 2:02:24UFC fighters George St. Peter say I was just say GSP
- 2:02:28fight has yes, thank you. That fight really stood out to
- 2:02:33me from a lot of mixed martial arts and USC fights, when Matt
- 2:02:37Sarah knocked him out. And then when George Saint
- 2:02:39Pierre came back, didn't really say much and beat the hell out
- 2:02:42of Matt. Sorry, those fights really stood
- 2:02:44out to me. I mean, the Nate Diaz fights
- 2:02:48versus yes. Conor McGregor, those fights
- 2:02:51took out to me, John Jones and what's his name?
- 2:02:56I'm sorry Daniel Cormier. Those fights were fun to watch
- 2:03:00two guys that couldn't stand each other and one was doing
- 2:03:05steroids. The other one was just at all
- 2:03:06all around wrestler who really stood out as a championship
- 2:03:10wrestler or a college. And actually Olympic restaurant
- 2:03:14wasn't they'll call me Olympic restaurant.
- 2:03:16I'm not sure that was Dan Henderson but that fight stuck
- 2:03:19out to me. So those mixed martial arts
- 2:03:21fights, really stood out to me from all the rest.
- 2:03:23You know, obviously also, there were other fights with George
- 2:03:28St-Pierre. That really said, how about the
- 2:03:30Nick Diaz? The BJ Penn George St-Pierre
- 2:03:33fight. I mean, there's a lot of them,
- 2:03:34there's a lot of them. I could go on boxing.
- 2:03:37I was one of the favorite, my favorite fights series was the
- 2:03:40Gotti War. I got one, I got another one,
- 2:03:43wonderful fight. I got one, Oscar Dela, Hoya
- 2:03:46versus Floyd Mayweather. That was another one that stood
- 2:03:49out to me. That fight really.
- 2:03:51I mean obviously after that fight, Oscar Dela Hoyer was
- 2:03:55done. His career was over.
- 2:03:56After they may want to take this you know ass and by the way,
- 2:03:59everybody thought he kicked his ass but the fight was a lot
- 2:04:01closer to the people fought. So that might be the only fight.
- 2:04:06You can argue Floyd Mayweather actually lost.
- 2:04:09So I'm gonna give my my vote, I'm going with Errol, although
- 2:04:14Speedy, I do thoroughly enjoy. Both the malice and pal and the
- 2:04:18palace, and Nolan Ryan giving Robin Ventura noogies on the
- 2:04:22Mounds. I did enjoy that and you can't
- 2:04:24beat the thrill of Manila. Is the rope-a-dope Ferrell?
- 2:04:27Yes. Is that?
- 2:04:28Yes, I mean, that's the most legendary speed.
- 2:04:31You should have George Foreman. That was a good fight.
- 2:04:34Yeah, I was gonna say, if you, if you get the Foreman fight way
- 2:04:37that he beat Foreman was incredible.
- 2:04:39Just, it's hard to argue with with that you're a fight fan.
- 2:04:44I'm not gonna argue with and I disagree with the the Tyson
- 2:04:46Douglas fight was in Japan. I believe it was 1990.
- 2:04:49Yeah, and Tyson 48 Hours, wet, lagged, eight legged, sex, dad.
- 2:04:55I mean the guy. Yeah the guy admitted he slept
- 2:04:58with 20 women in 48 hours. Okay.
- 2:05:01How you one thing they always tell you as a fighter do not
- 2:05:05have sex your last month of training that's what they tell
- 2:05:09you, but but he was so ferocious Errol.
- 2:05:11What was so he was ferocious ferociously knocked out.
- 2:05:15So Yeah, I remember that fight very well, actually, the night
- 2:05:20after was Saturday, night's Main Event there.
- 2:05:23What news happened? You got all excited there.
- 2:05:25I'm sorry. Oh, judges tied the game with
- 2:05:28the song. 99. That's great.
- 2:05:32However, not and his numbers 99. Pretty cool.
- 2:05:35All right, let's let's get to your votes.
- 2:05:37I mean, Aaron judge. My name is Aaron.
- 2:05:39Your name is Aaron. Aaron?
- 2:05:40What do you? What's your vote?
- 2:05:42I think I'm gonna go Speedy on this one only because again,
- 2:05:45I'm, I know, I really did a lot more MMA fights, a lot more
- 2:05:49boxing too, but a lot more MMA. That's not my really my cup of
- 2:05:52tea. I don't really know a lot and I
- 2:05:54do that, I didn't know a lot more speedies.
- 2:05:56So I'm gonna go Speedy amount Jake You know, I am gonna go
- 2:06:00with arrow, I do respect to Speedy fix, I think that the
- 2:06:03mouse and it's such an iconic moment.
- 2:06:05It's such a great fight and it led to like so much downturn for
- 2:06:08the Pacers and like, they're just their franchise and how
- 2:06:11crazy it was with Errol, you know, I mentioned some like
- 2:06:14iconic legendary place, we used some boxes.
- 2:06:17I wish like I said, it wasn't alive for Frazier and Ali but
- 2:06:21it's just fantastic time. Like everyone talks about the
- 2:06:24Golden Ages of boxing and it's that those fights right there.
- 2:06:27So, yeah, I'm going. Oh And Tommy.
- 2:06:29Yeah, I think Speedy definitely held his own very surprisingly.
- 2:06:33Speedy, definitely came out with some very sleeper picks of his
- 2:06:35own. I of course loved the mouse
- 2:06:37Capel, it's not familiar with the first fight.
- 2:06:38You mentioned the first dog, the baseball fight.
- 2:06:40Yeah, not entirely familiar. But like I said, you held your
- 2:06:43own, especially the very good surprise with the Mike, Tyson
- 2:06:46and Buster Douglas, But ultimately gonna have to give it
- 2:06:48to Arrow. Just, I had to roll with the
- 2:06:50theme because of what we were talking about a couple weeks
- 2:06:51ago, what? Kevin meant, like all the, all
- 2:06:53the relatively good, baseball fights so I figured I'd throw it
- 2:06:56in there. Listen, I didn't I all right I'm
- 2:06:58not expect Speedy to even come close so I can't give him a
- 2:07:01little bit of credit. They did pretty good, he did
- 2:07:03pretty good, they were funny. That's what he did.
- 2:07:05He went to funny way and he can't, he can't knock what he,
- 2:07:09what his choice is on the way. He went through.
- 2:07:12A lot of good comedy places in there that great, great Jake,
- 2:07:16you forgot about the best comedy fight that I brought up was I
- 2:07:19brought it up and what's that smell?
- 2:07:20Like? Java Knox.
- 2:07:21Kevin you cool. Listen to it.
- 2:07:22That's right. There we go.
- 2:07:27I want it. I don't have to fight.
- 2:07:31Jake, Paul still. I will do.
- 2:07:33If anybody could careful, he'll sue, you know, he's mentioned
- 2:07:37that for like four years. I have no problems fighting Jake
- 2:07:40Paul. I need six months of training.
- 2:07:42That's what I need because I need to get my stamina up.
- 2:07:46I'm in good shape, dropping 30 pounds is not really hard for
- 2:07:49me. I drip I've dropped 15 pounds in
- 2:07:5348 hours. So me, dropping 30 pounds it.
- 2:07:57The hardest part is the last five pounds, which you have a
- 2:08:00kidney removed, not with you, 15 pounds.
- 2:08:02Oh, easy to do. I'll tell you how I did it.
- 2:08:05First of all, all I did was Sip water for 24 hours my last 24
- 2:08:10hours, and I was in the sauna. I was, I had a bike in a sauna,
- 2:08:14I would go in and out. I would do 30 to 45 million
- 2:08:17intervals, every other hour, and I was in there and I sweat, I
- 2:08:21wear a bag. I would wear, you know, black
- 2:08:24bag and I would be in there. Just sweating, so just like
- 2:08:26water, weight more saying like, no, no, after that, after you
- 2:08:29get to that, once you hit that, that bottom feed of the Water
- 2:08:34weight, you gotta, you gotta burn fat.
- 2:08:35So, it was, you know, there's a lot you have to do in the sorter
- 2:08:41running cardio, to get that fat away.
- 2:08:43Sounds unhealthy, yes, Fastenal Arrow, fasted.
- 2:08:47Yeah, I fast the last 24 hours, sift the water.
- 2:08:50So, and and by the way, the last it's always the, it always seems
- 2:08:55to happen that last pound was always the hardest to lose.
- 2:08:59And by the way, when I was fighting in boxing, I was
- 2:09:03finding it between 160 to 175 and in mixed martial arts.
- 2:09:08I was fighting between 170 175. So I was walking at one 90 192
- 2:09:16and I was cutting weight like that.
- 2:09:18And I always wait till the last week to cut that weight because
- 2:09:21I knew I could, but I knew what I had to do to my body and it's
- 2:09:24the worst. And by the way, 24 hours before,
- 2:09:27because what happens is you do the way in 24 hours before the
- 2:09:31fight you want to, you want to get the Electoral And stuff like
- 2:09:34that. So a lot of guys just stuff
- 2:09:36their face and try to put that weight on.
- 2:09:38What I used to do is really simple.
- 2:09:40I didn't want to get sick and you shrink your stomach for a
- 2:09:44certain amount of time. You don't want to do that.
- 2:09:45So what I used to do is I would I would eat food in increments,
- 2:09:50so I am a, I'm a sweets person I would set up cakes.
- 2:09:53Okay, so I would have, I would have Donuts.
- 2:09:57I would have cakes, I would cookies and I would eat them
- 2:10:00every 10 minutes to put on the fat.
- 2:10:02And I would not eat macaroni starch and electrolytes because
- 2:10:06it always seems to make you tired and wears you out before
- 2:10:10the fight. So I never did that.
- 2:10:11My opponents always did that. So I knew that I had an edge and
- 2:10:15everybody says well how could you eat all that sugar and how
- 2:10:17you gonna eat all that those sweets sweets are easy to burn
- 2:10:20off. The macaroni is not.
- 2:10:23So that's why I went that route and people thought I was crazy,
- 2:10:27but it's easy to burn. So that's just my my thought and
- 2:10:32my take on that. So, I'm a sweet guy and that's
- 2:10:35where I stand. I went with the sweets, so there
- 2:10:38you go. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 2:10:40we got to get into some NHL conversation.
- 2:10:42We're gonna get Ashley Sarge on the show next week.
- 2:10:45He was with the Islanders today. He was that their development
- 2:10:49camps. He got a chance to see some of
- 2:10:53the young players at the Islanders.
- 2:10:54Drafted in this past draft eight plus plus, we will get into
- 2:10:58that, just a few moments, the maple leaf sign Winger Matthew 9
- 2:11:02to a six-year, 46.5 million dollar extension and Center John
- 2:11:07Tavares, which we were speaking about a couple of days ago.
- 2:11:10Four years 17 point five, two million dollar extension the
- 2:11:14Canucks, gave forward Brock boeser, a seven year, 50 point,
- 2:11:1975 million dollar extension, And goalie Thatcher Demko a
- 2:11:24three-year 25.5 million dollars. Actually like that by the way,
- 2:11:28by the Canucks that deal was definitely a deal that really
- 2:11:31stood out to me in is free agency market.
- 2:11:34The Islanders gave, Alexander Romanov an eight year, 50
- 2:11:38million dollar extension, not a bad one.
- 2:11:39We will get into that in just a few moments.
- 2:11:41The Oilers gave defenseman Evan Bouchard a four year, 42.5
- 2:11:46million dollar extension the fourth highest paid defenseman
- 2:11:50in NHL, not a good move. As far as I'm concerned, even
- 2:11:54though he had a very good playoff and he had a very good
- 2:11:56season, the Panthers kept all three Sam Bennett who was the
- 2:12:00playoff MVP Bradmore, Shawn and Aaron ekblad.
- 2:12:05I think this all of these deals were fantastic, this is a slam
- 2:12:09dunk for the Florida. Panthers, eight years 64 million
- 2:12:12marching got a six-year 31.5 million and Eric bled who is one
- 2:12:17of the more underrated players in the league.
- 2:12:19Got eight year 48. 0.8 billion dollar contract.
- 2:12:23So let's go with the extensions first.
- 2:12:25And we'll go with the trades. I think the Canucks slam dunk,
- 2:12:28bringing back Brock, boeser. I think he's very underrated,
- 2:12:32he's an underrated player. He's one of the more underrated
- 2:12:35two-way players in the NHL, he's seven years 50.75, million
- 2:12:39dollars. You want to keep your own
- 2:12:41players. You developed him.
- 2:12:42And I think he's a guy that a lot of teams want to, I remember
- 2:12:45when he was becoming available, the Islanders were very
- 2:12:48interested in trying to make a trade, to bring in, to the
- 2:12:50Islanders. They had no chance of getting
- 2:12:53Brock. Brock is a sensational play, big
- 2:12:55strong capable of playing two-dimensional hockey and
- 2:12:58Thatcher is one of the more underrated goalies in the NHL
- 2:13:02young to in the contract that he got three years. 24.5 million
- 2:13:08dollar extension. Fantastic.
- 2:13:09So that that those to me them and the Florida Panthers but I
- 2:13:14want to know your opinion first. Yeah.
- 2:13:16I like it from the Canucks standpoint.
- 2:13:17They needed to lock in the goalie's when he comes to.
- 2:13:21Yeah, a three-year deal with is probably because of his injury
- 2:13:24risk factor because he's been like that his whole career.
- 2:13:26He came up kind of the same as the two New York, guys kind of
- 2:13:29the same time and I think that level of a goaltender Vancouver
- 2:13:33has not had for a while since when they had Luongo and they
- 2:13:36had trouble going for it, besser obviously was disgruntled with
- 2:13:39the whole JT Miller situation. So they had to make sure they
- 2:13:42sealed. One of them, they traded Miller,
- 2:13:43they end up keeping him with the lease end of it.
- 2:13:46John Tavares, essentially gets a pay cut, which is a good thing
- 2:13:49for them because they needed to be able to shed some obviously
- 2:13:52trade at Marner, well, get into that later, but they getting
- 2:13:55some money to help other areas. Matthews is a good young, Winger
- 2:13:58fast type guy, and they've been lacking.
- 2:14:00A lot of the wing production for a while, so I think that's a
- 2:14:02good move. Bushard is interesting because
- 2:14:04you're right. 10 and a half million is definitely a little
- 2:14:07bit for a more undersized defenseman but he is very
- 2:14:09skilled. One of the best offensive
- 2:14:11defenseman he still skate. Well he's not just over, just
- 2:14:14not overly physical but besides that does everything else really
- 2:14:16well. Like you said, Florida, I'm
- 2:14:17shocked. They were able to keep all
- 2:14:19three. I thought was I'm not gone, I'm
- 2:14:21not the Florida Panthers are a smart organization.
- 2:14:23They've been one of the smarter organizations over the last
- 2:14:26couple of years and Landing Bennett Marshawn, and ekblad.
- 2:14:30I mean, could you argue that this team is the Stanley Cup
- 2:14:33Contender? That is probably going to be
- 2:14:35favorites again to win the Stanley Cup next year?
- 2:14:38I don't think you can argue that this team.
- 2:14:40We haven't seen back to back-to-back Champion for since
- 2:14:44the, I think it was the, the Islanders, right, or the end.
- 2:14:48It's an Oilers know I was the Oilers were three in a row
- 2:14:50Islanders were four, so it was the 80s the last time.
- 2:14:53Late 80s, early 90s. The last time we see goalies
- 2:14:57were standing up. Yes, that's when they barely had
- 2:15:02helmets at and Billy Smith those were the two goalies, one for
- 2:15:05the Islanders and the other one. And that's for you young guys
- 2:15:08that when we were talking about goalies, Billy Smith and then
- 2:15:11obviously Grant fewer both guys Hall of Famers, Sensational,
- 2:15:16goalie before they had that after.
- 2:15:18They had helped me, they had to the Michael Myers mask.
- 2:15:20I I can't argue that the Florida Panthers are going to be John
- 2:15:24Davidson. Yes, Florida is going to be the
- 2:15:26favorites and they have a couple of young guys that they're gonna
- 2:15:28be about probably calling up playing for the third lines
- 2:15:31because they're loaded on their top two.
- 2:15:34I mean there's I don't think there's a team that has more
- 2:15:36depth in the Florida Panthers do and I you can ask the Edmonton
- 2:15:40Oilers where they have the two best players in all of hockey,
- 2:15:43dry Sidle and McDavid. They did, all they can do and
- 2:15:47they still couldn't be the Florida Panthers.
- 2:15:49So I would say, I would say, the Panthers won Canucks to.
- 2:15:53I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go with the Islanders bringing Ramen
- 2:15:58off. I Alexander Romanoff is still
- 2:16:00young, four years, 50 million for a guy that had a great
- 2:16:03season last year, and you're bringing all these young guys.
- 2:16:06Yeah, he's he's 26. 25 26 years old.
- 2:16:09He's still very young. And he remember, well, what was
- 2:16:13it? 34 years ago.
- 2:16:14He was drafted by Montreal Canadians.
- 2:16:16I mean, I just got on that random cop run team like kind of
- 2:16:20fire here. Five years ago when he was
- 2:16:22drafted by. But nevertheless, he's still
- 2:16:24fairly young. He had a great season, he stayed
- 2:16:27healthy. And what now you're bringing in
- 2:16:28all these younger, guys, what the Islanders need to do is they
- 2:16:31made a trade either Mayfield pool, lock or pellick.
- 2:16:34That's where they have to go. They gonna have to move one or
- 2:16:37maybe two of them because I want to see these young guys.
- 2:16:39Get brought up a lot sooner than later and I expect them to do
- 2:16:43that. Now that darshan, I think the
- 2:16:44gonna trade one in the offseason, they'll probably
- 2:16:46trade one during the season I have.
- 2:16:48On, I think two out of three. Okay.
- 2:16:50I don't like with the Oilers you're doing the Oilers, just
- 2:16:53got beat by a team that just signed their guys March and
- 2:16:56averaging. I mean, look Marcia's 37, he's
- 2:16:59not playing till he's 43. That's done for cat purposes.
- 2:17:02He's not complaining six years on that deal.
- 2:17:04I'd be very shocked that he played like But they're not
- 2:17:08paying Bennett's, making 80 year at Labs, making 6 points,
- 2:17:12whatever, 6.1 a year. Bouchard's gonna be making over
- 2:17:1610 a year. I believe mcdavid's making 12
- 2:17:19and so is dry Sidle that doesn't win against the team that has
- 2:17:22depth of a bunch of 8 million dollar players that can run you
- 2:17:26off the ice. They're trying to just saw that
- 2:17:28happen. They're trying to go for the
- 2:17:30Penguins formula because it's the way they build with that
- 2:17:32type of I guess system. Obviously Crosby Malkin.
- 2:17:34Make David dry. I will save the same kind of I
- 2:17:36will say this about the the New York Rangers.
- 2:17:39I think it was a slam dunk trading out of that picking and
- 2:17:42taking the Pittsburgh Penguins first round draft pick next year
- 2:17:44because Pittsburgh you don't know what they're going to be
- 2:17:48next year. Cindy Crosby could be traded
- 2:17:50some part of the season so could walk in this is an older team
- 2:17:54Letang is another guy overpaid at his position.
- 2:17:57He's a great defenseman, all of Famer, all three of them, all a
- 2:18:00famous. Yeah, Pittsburgh could be an
- 2:18:02absolute bust this year and the Rangers get a lot of picked
- 2:18:05because of this, I think they didn't reveal a teams obviously,
- 2:18:07but I think there was a source that Sidney Crosby actually gave
- 2:18:10the Penguins three teams, he would be trade, he would like,
- 2:18:13to be traded. So Won't be the island, that's
- 2:18:15for sure. No, I don't.
- 2:18:18Talk about some of those trades. We got, we had a whole bunch of
- 2:18:21trades in here. The biggest one we already you
- 2:18:25mentioned at the top was Mitch Marner.
- 2:18:27So Mitch Marner goes to Las Vegas, love it and gets
- 2:18:31immediately gets an eight-year deal, 96 million dollars to play
- 2:18:36in Vegas. Let's start right there.
- 2:18:39I love it. A mitch Marner going over the
- 2:18:41Vegas with the talent that they have over there from you're
- 2:18:44talking about. We talk about the Florida
- 2:18:46Panthers. The second team that has as much
- 2:18:49depth or second most depth. Now, adding Mitch Marner is the
- 2:18:54Vegas Knights. I mean, you can't even argue
- 2:18:56with that. And now you have raichal and you
- 2:18:59have Monarch, could you imagine them play on the same line,
- 2:19:02scary scary, and Mitch McConnell with the speed and Michael who
- 2:19:08he could do everything. I mean he's defense offense I
- 2:19:11and they're loaded from top to bottom.
- 2:19:13They have two good quality, goaltenders not great gold in
- 2:19:18his butt quality goaltending I and their defense is is
- 2:19:21phenomenal. So Yeah, I I love Mich.
- 2:19:25Monica going over to Vegas. Shocked.
- 2:19:27That Vegas was the favorites to getting getting them before he
- 2:19:30even became available. Yeah, I was hearing, he was the
- 2:19:33favorite that they were the favorites for a while.
- 2:19:34I was hearing the kings were trying to make a swing for it.
- 2:19:37And there were a couple other Western Conference teams that
- 2:19:40probably had a little bit less. He wanted to go to the heat.
- 2:19:41He wanted, he wanted to definitely go out there and
- 2:19:44Vegas. I probably since George McPhee's
- 2:19:47been there and since they became an expanded tea, they've been
- 2:19:49one of those teams not afraid to make those types of Trades.
- 2:19:51Islander guy McPhee, yes, George McPhee.
- 2:19:54All sorts of Washington for a while at a guy that liked to
- 2:19:57make swings over there for those big veteran guys.
- 2:19:59And obviously they know fish them, another one of those teams
- 2:20:02that manipulates the cap very well to make that kind of thing
- 2:20:04work. And now a lot of those other
- 2:20:05deals look like Bargains in the distance to the gyms that they
- 2:20:07hit on in the expansion drive. Now Marner could become that
- 2:20:10type of really Dynamic second score well with iCal and be just
- 2:20:15go to thought better than I go statistically during a Year too.
- 2:20:18And again you got all those winged up to go along with it so
- 2:20:21I I would put them as my West favorite, right?
- 2:20:24like, I got to talk about the Rangers rangers trade it,
- 2:20:29finally traded, Keandre Miller went to the hurricanes and the
- 2:20:33Hurricanes gave him an eight-year 60 million dollar
- 2:20:36deal, right away. I could have sworn this was the
- 2:20:38same guy. Speedy that couldn't play dead
- 2:20:42in the cowboy movie, the entirety of last season.
- 2:20:44And every time they put him out there, they had him helplessly
- 2:20:48cover better players and other team.
- 2:20:50And it never went well, except for like, two or three guys that
- 2:20:54he was just able to get the long stick on because let's face.
- 2:20:56That was The Miller's. Best thing, he has the Long
- 2:20:59Reach with the left hand, with the stick.
- 2:21:01Everything else with that guy. I'm happy to see him go.
- 2:21:05I can't believe he got that much money.
- 2:21:08And the Rangers got a first and a second for this guy.
- 2:21:12I think they're doing it basically.
- 2:21:14You always judging, especially in Baseball trades.
- 2:21:16Also, with, but also, hockey younger players too.
- 2:21:18You're judging based on the talent that he does have.
- 2:21:20And I think Carolina knows that the defensive system that they
- 2:21:22have has still rebirthed. Other guys that were worse, so
- 2:21:26that's the logic. They're going to go on.
- 2:21:27Keandre Miller still has a lot more overall talent and
- 2:21:29athleticism and then Tony The Edge alone and guys like that,
- 2:21:32they tried to make work in their systems.
- 2:21:34So maybe that's what they're banking on right now.
- 2:21:36Again, Don Juan Del is a very inconsistent like, overall GM.
- 2:21:39I'm not crazy about him but I think there's still banking on
- 2:21:42the upside where they can say, all right, this is a bargain if
- 2:21:44it does work out. Yeah, Andre Miller is 22. 23
- 2:21:47years old. He's a young guy now.
- 2:21:48He didn't play well in Madison Square Garden and play.
- 2:21:51Well with the New York Rangers. He was a high draft pick.
- 2:21:54I think he was a top 10 pick when the 205.
- 2:21:56Yeah, he was the year round picks.
- 2:21:59So he was, he was a high draft pick for the New York Rangers,
- 2:22:02everybody expected. I remember, He played for the
- 2:22:04Badgers, we had Granado on the show, I was actually our hockey
- 2:22:08show and Tony Granado told me that this guy's gonna be a star.
- 2:22:11It didn't work in Madison Square Garden, but Carolina, they are
- 2:22:15very good defensive team. They have two of the best
- 2:22:17defenseman in all of hockey and our Keandre Miller gets to go
- 2:22:20over there and learn from two of the very best in the NHL and I
- 2:22:25think a guy like what keep always mess up.
- 2:22:29Rob, Brenda Moore, who's a very good defensive mind offensive
- 2:22:33player that preaches defense. I think he's gonna get Keandre
- 2:22:36Miller to play a little bit better.
- 2:22:37Hockey, I don't know if he's worth eight years, 60 million, I
- 2:22:42would say no. But he's a big body who can hit,
- 2:22:46if he learns a lick of NHL hockey.
- 2:22:49This guy could turn from a bust into a star.
- 2:22:52That's how good Canadian Miller was supposed to be and
- 2:22:55everything that Tony Granado told us about him is he's an old
- 2:22:59brain superstar in this league, but he hasn't become that and
- 2:23:02that's because he Item. Madison Square Garden in the
- 2:23:05Rangers. Very hard place to play.
- 2:23:06I always always in on him up until probably the 2023
- 2:23:09playoffs. I can see loves sales.
- 2:23:11Yeah, I remember Mikey C still loves him.
- 2:23:13Says that you watch, he goes to Carolina, he's going to be an
- 2:23:16old. I could see that just with the
- 2:23:17way that defensive system loves over there, he loves him he
- 2:23:20tells me. Oh you don't know how good
- 2:23:22Keandre Miller is I think dude, Keandre Miller sucks and the
- 2:23:26only reason why I think he might accomplish what you're saying is
- 2:23:29accomplished because he's going to go to a team with two of the
- 2:23:31best defensive defense made in all of hockey, right?
- 2:23:35On one roster. So that would be the only way
- 2:23:38and he's gonna learn from the best and Robert Morris a good
- 2:23:41coach. So, we'll see.
- 2:23:42So the just a quick straight, a smaller trade.
- 2:23:46John Gibson goes from the Ducks, at a Red Wings for their backup,
- 2:23:49little goalie trade right there, just quickly Gibson, definitely
- 2:23:54an upgrade, how much of an upgrade Speedy enough where I
- 2:23:57think Detroit they had flashes of good goalie play.
- 2:24:01Last year, they're offensive was down at certain points, that was
- 2:24:03the reason they Struggled in the first half of the Season,
- 2:24:05they've rallied back to again, almost be a playoff team.
- 2:24:08They were in that cluster with the Rangers and the Islanders
- 2:24:10and the Canadians at the time, the goalies choked at the end of
- 2:24:14the season. Yeah.
- 2:24:14But they've always gone through this cycle that they tried to
- 2:24:17make it work. They gave the big money to gel
- 2:24:19Quebec who had that good year with Carolina, but he fell off
- 2:24:22and this is the best chance that they have though.
- 2:24:23Give us an actually played really well when the Anaheim
- 2:24:25core got old. If he played better at that
- 2:24:28time, they might have won a cup. It just again.
- 2:24:30He's still a steady guy though. I like it for Detroit.
- 2:24:31I like it for Detroit and Stevie's in knows what he's
- 2:24:34doing. Even though I can't stand the
- 2:24:36man, I met him a couple of times.
- 2:24:37He's a nasty piece of, you know what?
- 2:24:38I I, he knows how to build the team.
- 2:24:41He's won titles over there in Tampa.
- 2:24:43He built that Tampa Bay Tampa Bay Lightning team.
- 2:24:47I don't think he gets enough credit that he should deserve.
- 2:24:50I think he's gonna help this Detroit team be a contender.
- 2:24:53Once again, they have a lot of speed over there.
- 2:24:55A lot of Youth over there. Have a very good farm system and
- 2:24:59John Gibson is alive, a very underrated goaltender.
- 2:25:02I would say you can I actually put him in the top 10, I would
- 2:25:05put him. 10 or 11 in all of hockey.
- 2:25:09I think he's the steel. I think he's gonna, he's gonna
- 2:25:12help the Red Wings. Noah Dobson.
- 2:25:14I thought it was supposed to be the future for the Islanders, on
- 2:25:17the defenseman that on the blue line, they gave the money to the
- 2:25:20other guy we just mentioned and they decided the trade him for
- 2:25:23the 16th and 17th picks. The 2025 draft to Montreal, who
- 2:25:28signed into an eight year, 76 million dollar deal on the spot.
- 2:25:32Arrow. This, this came out of nowhere,
- 2:25:35for me. What, what's going on with this
- 2:25:37deal? I'll tell you why the Islanders
- 2:25:39did it, and it's pretty obvious. They were going with chafer no
- 2:25:42matter what and I I do owe somebody a dinner because I did
- 2:25:47not think the Islanders were gonna go that route, but they
- 2:25:50did, they brought in. Now if it was anybody else
- 2:25:52besides darsh, I think they go with Misa Misa is going to be a
- 2:25:56star in his League just as much a safer is.
- 2:25:58But as soon as we heard it was a no-brainer.
- 2:26:01They're going Schaefer, I knew no adoption was on his way out.
- 2:26:04No adoption is a great offensive defense.
- 2:26:07I mean he has not a good defensive defenseman, is he got
- 2:26:09top offensive defenseman, Elite absolutely.
- 2:26:12He's going home. He's going to Montreal,
- 2:26:14Montreal, giving up a 16, and a 17 for Noah's, and I think
- 2:26:18that's a reach. I think the Islanders slam dunk
- 2:26:21this trade, they were trying to move off for James taking.
- 2:26:23They were stories coming out. They were trying to trade with
- 2:26:26Philadelphia. Had no interest in.
- 2:26:28Trading with them, hiking goes to Boston.
- 2:26:31But what a consolation. Is bringing in the guise that
- 2:26:33they brought in. They brought one of the most
- 2:26:35underrated defense men in this draft class Canadian kid.
- 2:26:39How do you pronounce this HSN HSN?
- 2:26:41Who they think he hits like a rock and a guy could score.
- 2:26:45He could do so many different things.
- 2:26:47You put them with Schaefer in the future.
- 2:26:49That's your first pairing for the future.
- 2:26:51A two very good young defense men and then there's other kid,
- 2:26:55who fell. He was, some people thought was
- 2:26:57a top 10 pick offensively, his brother plays for the San Jose
- 2:27:01Sharks. He's a great player.
- 2:27:02They're saying that this kid's better than his brother.
- 2:27:05Yep. So I I mean, if this guy turns
- 2:27:08into a 35 40 goal scorer, it's a slam dunk for the Islanders this
- 2:27:12class for the New York Islanders.
- 2:27:15People are saying could change the franchise, they, they didn't
- 2:27:20reach, they were in surgery. They were playing surgery with
- 2:27:24any of this. They picked the best guys
- 2:27:26available, and they slam dunked on every single one of them.
- 2:27:30Every single one of the guys, they picked in this year's class
- 2:27:32will be a part of that roster in the next three years.
- 2:27:35Yeah, they were talking about, well, going back to HSN, they
- 2:27:37were talking about how obviously Schafer was the number one
- 2:27:39defenseman. The one Buffalo dropped at a
- 2:27:41number nine, was started to be second and like him to be third
- 2:27:44and think it was a top 10 possible value in that draft.
- 2:27:47And then they get excellent. Like you're saying a kind of a
- 2:27:49different type of player than his brother.
- 2:27:51They're both kind of smaller on the smaller side, but so
- 2:27:54definitely room to grow in speed.
- 2:27:55Great hands sees the ice, very, very well.
- 2:27:58And they say stamina wise. This guy could play a minute and
- 2:28:0230, second shifts and not be tired when you have a player
- 2:28:05like that. That's what you need
- 2:28:07defensively. You need that offensively.
- 2:28:08That is why I think the Islanders that first round was
- 2:28:12was Sensational New York. Yeah.
- 2:28:15They were saying. Comparing to his brother to like
- 2:28:17he doesn't know, I don't think the the raw speed but he's a
- 2:28:19better creator with the puck and with his hands than his brother
- 2:28:22is. And again, it's still a lot of
- 2:28:24time to grow in his body and Tampa Bay.
- 2:28:25He's his brother was there and said he's a better player than
- 2:28:28me. Yeah.
- 2:28:28And I mean, his brother comes out, he's a couple years older
- 2:28:33than him and it comes out and says, his 18 year old brother is
- 2:28:36better than him already that says a lot.
- 2:28:39I mean, the again, he was a top 10 pick.
- 2:28:41He fell out to 16. The Islanders were not reaching
- 2:28:45on that one, guys. Know that was a great pick for
- 2:28:48the Islanders. So, All right let's finish this
- 2:28:51off. Talk about some free agent
- 2:28:54signings and new places. A couple of quick ones.
- 2:28:56Some veterans Corey Perry and Cody Ceci find their way to Los
- 2:29:00Angeles, play for the game. The Red Wing stake van riems
- 2:29:03Dike in Patrick Kane other great.
- 2:29:05So they're that again. Smart moves with some veteran
- 2:29:08Talent, Michael Grantland, three years, 21 million dollar deal to
- 2:29:11go to the Ducks but they don't expect to be good but he's a
- 2:29:14good player and he got paid probably a little bit more than
- 2:29:16he was worth but got paid. So the Ducks got him.
- 2:29:19How was the two big names? How does Corey Perry still have
- 2:29:22a job in the NHL? He was awesome in the playoffs.
- 2:29:25How does this guy still have a job in the NHL fish place?
- 2:29:29Your futures bets. Now, do you forget what Corey
- 2:29:31Perry did? I mean, come on guys.
- 2:29:33Don't don't be lost on this scores goals like what's his
- 2:29:38face for the Cowboys? Used to get to the quarterback?
- 2:29:40Didn't matter what he was doing, cycling on a bed of guns.
- 2:29:43Doing other things too, Fish. Place her up.
- 2:29:46Your prop bets. It out.
- 2:29:47Corey Perry's. Been four out of five Stanley
- 2:29:49Cup losing teams. You Kings win the Western
- 2:29:51Conference at Lucas. Silly cup.
- 2:29:53Let's talk about this through the fence spinning and get out
- 2:29:57of this proverb. To the Blue Jackets.
- 2:30:01Seven years just under 60 million and the Rangers decide.
- 2:30:06No ticket to Keandre Miller. Yes to Vlad gavrikov stepped up
- 2:30:11big last year, I believe for the Kings Dowdy out.
- 2:30:14Kind of took over the mantle and now he got paid for his 49.
- 2:30:20I don't hate the move by the Rangers.
- 2:30:22I really don't but proper off is to me what the Blue Jackets got
- 2:30:28from him. Yvonne Provo off is the better
- 2:30:30of the defenseman. All right and seven years. 159.5
- 2:30:33million is a good deal for our Top Line defenseman.
- 2:30:37I again I'm not doing this because I don't like the
- 2:30:41Rangers. I'm just doing it for what I
- 2:30:42know, the Rangers bringing free agent defenseman, they never
- 2:30:46panned out. Well, they never do go back and
- 2:30:49look at all the free agent defenseman, they bring in, it
- 2:30:52doesn't work. So I wouldn't be surprised if
- 2:30:54they fall flat on their face with this.
- 2:30:56That's just my opinion. Well, it's interesting because I
- 2:30:59think the stylistic Types of Defense men that they've brought
- 2:31:01in in the past where they're going for more of the speed and
- 2:31:05offensive. I think gavrikov is a little
- 2:31:06more of the defensive type. He's a great shot blocker, which
- 2:31:08I think the Rangers have definitely needed for a while.
- 2:31:10I think that's where I think the Rangers did.
- 2:31:12Well, I just worry about the the length when it comes to how
- 2:31:15injury prone has been, he's 29 years old and with Columbus he
- 2:31:18was definitely very injury prone.
- 2:31:19It's funny because I wanted the Rangers to trade for him a
- 2:31:21couple years ago when he was with Columbus, still before the
- 2:31:24Kings got him, but I do think he's a great player for what
- 2:31:27they need great player because I think it's a good it's a good
- 2:31:30counter for that first pair with Fox.
- 2:31:31Who's wants to be more that I'll tell you this?
- 2:31:34This could seal the deal for Chris Drury if this doesn't
- 2:31:38work. Well, yeah I I'm not I'm still
- 2:31:39not justifying that. Okay, Chris Dre, he's gonna be
- 2:31:42still thought of this anywhere close to a good GM by any means.
- 2:31:44I'm gonna tell you this Chris crowded going to Anaheim is a
- 2:31:47slam dunk. Yeah, I love the jerseys.
- 2:31:49Anybody see their New Jersey orange ones?
- 2:31:51Yeah. Fits like, I want to get a pair
- 2:31:52that I'll buy the Jersey just because I love the way it looks.
- 2:31:55As far as proverb goes, proverb is an interesting one because
- 2:31:59he's a very Goal defenseman as well.
- 2:32:01He's another guy that I think skating wise, it started to
- 2:32:04regress a little, but he's still young enough where I think they
- 2:32:06can still make the seven-year deal work.
- 2:32:08They probably had to use a good player.
- 2:32:10He's a good player. I always liked him in Philly.
- 2:32:11I think again, he's trying to find that role with a new team
- 2:32:14could be hard. But again, Columbus, they're
- 2:32:16right on the cosplayer. They were very close with a very
- 2:32:18good young team. Now they get a veteran guy to go
- 2:32:20along with it. Pretty young defensive core
- 2:32:22overall and then obviously one of the best defense in the NHL
- 2:32:24and Zach, rent, ski, whatever, kind of revitalize, your last
- 2:32:27year, all the injuries he sat Look, Erol, I think you
- 2:32:32mentioned it earlier that the Rangers decided to give away the
- 2:32:36pick this year. So they'd have to pick next
- 2:32:38year. Think about what, what Drew he
- 2:32:40has to play with. Now, he's got two first and he's
- 2:32:42got two seconds going into the draft, even if like, that
- 2:32:45picked, doesn't turn into a top lottery pick, he's got two first
- 2:32:48and two seconds. Yes, two questions.
- 2:32:49The trade deadline. Let me ask you a question and
- 2:32:51all the drafts that Chris Curry has been there for tell me one
- 2:32:55that really has stood out to be, oh, he's gonna trade the picks.
- 2:32:58He asked him to trade them on guys that we lose after one year
- 2:33:02and then he has to do it all over.
- 2:33:04I will say he smart because next year's class is an absolute slam
- 2:33:09dunks. So offensive players and the
- 2:33:12number one pick, we all know who he's gonna be, he's the next
- 2:33:14kind of MC Dave in a league. Everybody is going to want to be
- 2:33:17in that Lottery to get a chance to land that kid.
- 2:33:20You saw the Islanders went from Maybe a 12 or 3 13th.
- 2:33:24Spot to the number one spot. They got that Shaffer.
- 2:33:27Who everybody thinks is going to be a star in the league.
- 2:33:29This guy is a home run slam dunk Grand Slam kind of guy.
- 2:33:34Everybody's gonna want to be in that move in that spot where
- 2:33:37they get a chance to get them. I know the Islanders aren't
- 2:33:39going to be good this year, they'll be right there maybe and
- 2:33:42they have two first round draft picks this year, including
- 2:33:44Colorado's as well. So it's gonna be interesting and
- 2:33:47the Rangers rangers have three. Yeah, maybe more than they could
- 2:33:50trade for with two and like, like you're saying, fish and
- 2:33:53getting him next. The kids name.
- 2:33:55Oh, dude, McKenna, I have heard so many stories about this kid.
- 2:33:59He might even be better than Connor.
- 2:34:02McDavid coming out going into the draft.
- 2:34:04That's how good this kid is. So it's sick.
- 2:34:08I'll go away and listen to these stats from McKenna between
- 2:34:12regular season, playoffs and Memorial Cup McKenna.
- 2:34:15Put up, 173 points and 76 games 129 in the regular season.
- 2:34:22His third amongst you under 18 players in a double w, h, l in
- 2:34:27the last 35 years, he had points in 54 consecutive games.
- 2:34:33He's ridiculous. He's gonna be his Insanity.
- 2:34:36Like he's gonna be better than bodard and when bodar came out
- 2:34:40he's been a bust. And if I was in a bad second, if
- 2:34:43I was Chicago right now, if but Dart fails in Chicago, this
- 2:34:47coming year at the trade deadline, get as much as you can
- 2:34:50from bodard, send him somewhere where he can develop because
- 2:34:53they're not developing, right? This guy is gonna unbelievable
- 2:34:56shot and he really last year what do you have 23 goals?
- 2:34:5925 goals? This guy's a sniper he had a low
- 2:35:01point total overall horrible. I mean he has been he's just
- 2:35:05like Alexis Lafayette. He was the number one, he's
- 2:35:08better just but I really is, he really?
- 2:35:11I don't know. He's got the all.
- 2:35:12He's not the all around players. Not in Chicago, not in Chicago.
- 2:35:18That's all I'm gonna say. All right guys, that's hockey
- 2:35:20for now I'm sure we'll have more news going forwards.
- 2:35:23That was the offseason round. I feel bad for Bedard because
- 2:35:27he's put in a really bad situation in Chicago and
- 2:35:30ownership and the executives over there are betting on him to
- 2:35:34be the Patrick Kane or Jonathan. James, he's not that type of guy
- 2:35:38I don't think he's a leader. He's a quiet guy.
- 2:35:41Anybody that's checked out the documentaries about him, over
- 2:35:44the last couple of years, you can see he's not a big man, he
- 2:35:48is a decent skater. He's not a great skater,
- 2:35:50unbelievable shot. But in hockey, you need speed,
- 2:35:54hockey is different. Now than it ever has been, if
- 2:35:57you don't have the speed to keep up with some of these fast guys,
- 2:36:00like the economic, David's, the bars of the world.
- 2:36:02And some of these younger guys that are just so fast, you're
- 2:36:05not gonna be able to be that Elite player that everybody
- 2:36:07thought you were going to be, but dark could fix that John
- 2:36:09Tavares. Did he fixed it up?
- 2:36:11And he became a better skater. I just don't know in Chicago, if
- 2:36:16it's going to work and he still very young All right, let's go
- 2:36:19to a sports minute. When we come back goodies, Bad
- 2:36:21Boyz. This is the Java and the mouth
- 2:36:27Sportsman is hey guys. Aaron Fishman here.
- 2:36:30Once again, with your sports minute, gonna go through a few
- 2:36:33stories before we get into some baseball scores tonight, all
- 2:36:38right, early on Wednesday, the IIHF NHL nhlpa.
- 2:36:42And the ioc came to an agreement that will allow NHL players to
- 2:36:47play in the 2026 Milan. Cortina Winter Olympics, this is
- 2:36:53the first usage of NHL players in the events since 2014.
- 2:36:56The door is also reportedly being left open for the usage of
- 2:37:00players in the 2030, French, Alps Winter Olympics, the
- 2:37:04following Olympic event, the Canada and the United States
- 2:37:08featured prominently in this year's successful, foreign
- 2:37:11Nations Faceoff, which Canada won Canada.
- 2:37:13Would be looking for its first gold medal in hockey since 2414.
- 2:37:17While the US has not won Olympic gold since the Miracle on Ice at
- 2:37:21Lake Placid in 1980 so long ago. I've regularly taught it when
- 2:37:26covering the cold war in history courses for the past decade.
- 2:37:30Former world heavyweight boxing champion.
- 2:37:32Tyson Fury has announced that he will be coming out of retirement
- 2:37:35in 2026. Fury, who is 36 years old?
- 2:37:38Retired, from boxing. Four different times since 2013.
- 2:37:42He lost his last two bouts against Alexander usyk, there is
- 2:37:46still hope for a Tyson Fury. Anthony Joshua dream match.
- 2:37:49That is going to happen a few years later and anyone wanted to
- 2:37:53on the table but most fight fans will believe that fight when
- 2:37:56they see it at this point, his Excellency turki, Al Sheikh
- 2:37:59announced earlier today, that Fury will make yet another
- 2:38:03comeback. Turkey tweeted, the Gypsy King
- 2:38:05will be back. I talked with him and I have his
- 2:38:08words to have him in Riyadh season in 2026.
- 2:38:11We have a rabbit to hunt. Saudi Arabian.
- 2:38:15Money is just as good as any other money.
- 2:38:18Apparently. And fury will take every dime.
- 2:38:20He can while attempting to flying back to the top of the
- 2:38:23fight game. As he answers his lead 30s and
- 2:38:26now a new Mini bit fish. Fades pop culture.
- 2:38:29Sean? Columns, AKA Diddy was found
- 2:38:32guilty of two charges of Transportation of former
- 2:38:35girlfriends for prostitution, but was acquitted of the more
- 2:38:38major charges of racketeering and sex trafficking, while many
- 2:38:41in Diddy's campers singing victory, I wouldn't be belting
- 2:38:45out. It's all about the Benjamins
- 2:38:46just yet as the two charges did, he were convicted on, are
- 2:38:49federal felonies and will likely to lead to jail time for some
- 2:38:53reasons. Prosecutors decided to charge
- 2:38:55ditty. Like he was Scarface and not for
- 2:38:58domestic violence or sexual assault, which seemed far more
- 2:39:01likely to get a conviction. So, in the case of Diddy do it,
- 2:39:04or did he did, he kind of did but did he didn't into eyes of
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- 2:46:37It shows you drive. This recently LSU is deciding to
- 2:46:42add advertisements to their jerseys.
- 2:46:44Don't know if you guys saw there or not, but what are the
- 2:46:46implications in the fan? The fan reactions?
- 2:46:49All right. How did you guys hear this or
- 2:46:52know I heard about it that's surprising with it, that's
- 2:46:55surprising with the deals. Okay that makes sense.
- 2:46:56Okay so some implications we have a revenue boost.
- 2:47:01So obviously with nil sweeping the college seen this could be a
- 2:47:05boost and money. So more money to add to the
- 2:47:08competitive resources. You know, you see these
- 2:47:11quarterbacks signing for millions and millions of
- 2:47:13dollars. So to me to me, this would be
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- 2:47:19advertisements on our jerseys, at the cafe, or, you know,
- 2:47:22whatever the local Margarita shop was, but whatever it is
- 2:47:29what it is. They Integrity of the uniform
- 2:47:31at, you know, LSU's uniform is historic, and that they never
- 2:47:34change. Every now, and then they'll have
- 2:47:35a different Helmet or color scheme, whether it be gold or
- 2:47:39the white units, they throw, but LSU's on tradition.
- 2:47:43So, I'm not sure, I'm not sure how it's going to look and
- 2:47:47whether or not people are going to like that the reaction though
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- 2:48:14Well that convinced Brian Kelly actually be a good big game.
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- 2:48:19Well, if they yeah well I can't I can't speak on a Brian Kelly.
- 2:48:23You guys get an ingredient over there.
- 2:48:25You just you guys have won every every year.
- 2:48:28It seems like guys been there every year now.
- 2:48:30You just want more money to get, get all the best players down.
- 2:48:32They want to baseball titles and three years.
- 2:48:35They want to women's basketball title.
- 2:48:37They think a gymnastics title, I believe, they have a pretty good
- 2:48:40and the last like, Five years, we've won like five natties and
- 2:48:45different sports track and field.
- 2:48:46Gymnastics women's basketball baseball.
- 2:48:54Would you go bowling? Bowling.
- 2:48:56I I actually I don't like this because could you imagine the
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- 2:49:03Don't want to put your names on The Jersey.
- 2:49:05Yeah, they have the Yankees have start.
- 2:49:07Don't they have some the star written on their jerseys right
- 2:49:10now? So, I mean, it is being seen in
- 2:49:11professional sports, but they're not, they're not all Out, the
- 2:49:15LSU Tigers are going to be doing.
- 2:49:17I mean, seriously, they're putting to me.
- 2:49:19It's it's College. It's College to me, but it's
- 2:49:22called gonna be good at. You would know better, obviously
- 2:49:25being close to it and I, I read about it.
- 2:49:27Is it going to be like, kind of what?
- 2:49:31It has been portrayed like with NBA where it's right here with.
- 2:49:36Baseball's right here. It's not gonna look like a damn
- 2:49:38NASCAR jacket. Is it?
- 2:49:40I don't know, I don't think the fans would appreciate.
- 2:49:44Okay. I don't, I don't think it's
- 2:49:45going to now. I I don't know what they're
- 2:49:49actually from what it sounded like, it didn't, it was gonna be
- 2:49:51more of like it's probably Add Revenue base but just like not
- 2:49:56everywhere. Maybe different on different
- 2:49:59uniforms this kind of the way I took it like each different
- 2:50:02uniform will have a different Advertising is kind of.
- 2:50:05So like if it gets to a truus like a European soccer team or
- 2:50:09like the Mexican baseball team for sure, the fans will will be
- 2:50:14some backlash from the fans because.
- 2:50:16Yeah, guys, for sure. Extremely traditional, it's like
- 2:50:22to me. I can see like, a mid-major
- 2:50:25school maybe doing it, trying to get more Revenue, but like your
- 2:50:28LSU. You're already generating a ton
- 2:50:29of money as it is. He all the national
- 2:50:32championships and the donors that are there.
- 2:50:34I think baseball this year, spent upwards of four million
- 2:50:37dollars on their baseball team and that's not even the highest.
- 2:50:39Okay, 2.2 million on two or one point, one on two players.
- 2:50:44So, 2.2 million for two guys, but you you as a player and
- 2:50:48knowing the fan base and whatever.
- 2:50:50So, if you just have this big king glamour come in, and it's
- 2:50:54like Tony, Tony shakers would probably be Tony chachere's, the
- 2:51:00salt, the hot salt, you know, you can go there.
- 2:51:02It's called Tony's that they're already a sponsor for LSU
- 2:51:07baseball. And I'm sure LSU had just in
- 2:51:10general. So like, if you have like the
- 2:51:12Tonys logo, I don't know, here or here.
- 2:51:16It's Louisiana based. So I don't think the fast.
- 2:51:20bigger too much but then again, you know, If you have screw it,
- 2:51:24if they gonna have that we might as well get our logo put on the
- 2:51:27LSU Jersey that would be big for us.
- 2:51:29Why don't we do that? Let's reach out.
- 2:51:31What is Utah's? What's the approval though from
- 2:51:33the I don't know. Is it, is it like a licensing
- 2:51:37licensing? Deal, like, you have to pay into
- 2:51:40something like, obviously, like major sports but that was the
- 2:51:44kind of the thing that I wondered too is like, what, what
- 2:51:47are they proving is like, I'm assuming he can't be like booze
- 2:51:50cigarettes like which some of the biggest biggest sponsorships
- 2:51:54back in the day were but obviously, yeah, I like I don't
- 2:51:57I don't foresee having like a Yuengling logo on their left
- 2:52:02sleeve like you know what I'm saying for sure not Bud, Light
- 2:52:06or Budweiser they do. So alcohol at the game but I
- 2:52:08don't think that they would have that there has to be, there has
- 2:52:11to be some boundaries put up otherwise it could get out of
- 2:52:16hand quick. How about the end?
- 2:52:18I don't like the And our our, let's get that on here.
- 2:52:21And our our the new thing just put a leash a nice little leash
- 2:52:25right here on this logo. Absolutely.
- 2:52:27That would be I'm putting you on a leash now, if there was a it's
- 2:52:32a college sporting, leashes, that'll be the sponsor.
- 2:52:36Yeah. All right.
- 2:52:39My next one, we're gonna shift to baseball here.
- 2:52:42With baseball. You know, baseball is just in
- 2:52:45the swing of things. We're getting ready to have the
- 2:52:47mid-season class in the All-Star game.
- 2:52:49I think the All-Star lineups just came out recently, which
- 2:52:51I'm sure we'll cover here shortly.
- 2:52:52Yeah, today, but the NL starters, nla starters.
- 2:52:58Injuries were on the rise for starting pitching.
- 2:53:00My question is, will we see an MLB team?
- 2:53:02Use a six-man. Rotation full-time.
- 2:53:04Other than 2025, or 2026. So strategically You know, teams
- 2:53:12are pushing these starters. I don't want to say they're
- 2:53:15pushing him harder because the pitch count has gone down.
- 2:53:17But starters in general, are throwing heart of the average
- 2:53:19velocity of Major League Baseball is creeped up and to I
- 2:53:22think 93 94. It's got to be now for starting
- 2:53:26pitchers. Well, with that happening, the
- 2:53:28injuries are on the rise, we've covered this multiple times, but
- 2:53:31is a six-man rotation, Beneficial and could it become
- 2:53:37the norm in baseball. And the reason why I bring this
- 2:53:41up is because they're well, the reason why that this could be
- 2:53:44beneficial is for workload management picture development
- 2:53:48more time in between starts to hone in on certain things, go
- 2:53:52over video cover, if you're tipping pitches, which will be
- 2:53:56in my next segment, and Obviously going over your
- 2:53:59analytics and I think full-time, I think we see in the Mariners
- 2:54:03in the angels of dabbled with it, just a little bit as well as
- 2:54:07the Yankees and the Dodge's. Could go to it.
- 2:54:12Because the injuries are creeping up.
- 2:54:14But they're starting rotation. I think the first team that's
- 2:54:16going to do it, it's Cincinnati because I got a guy, like Frank
- 2:54:19Kona is always a trendsetter, and I could see Terry Francona
- 2:54:23being the first manager to actually pull that off and do
- 2:54:27that six-man rotation. I don't even think it's going to
- 2:54:29be the Yankees at a Dodgers. I could see more with those
- 2:54:33small Market teams. These teams that are up and
- 2:54:35coming like Cincinnati with the talent that they have in their
- 2:54:38farm system, the pitching process that they have.
- 2:54:40I think Cincinnati. And Terry Francona would be the
- 2:54:43first to do that. He said the Mariners, and Angels
- 2:54:47have dabbled with it, but like teams, like the tiger is the
- 2:54:49Reds, the Marlins was deep young pitching.
- 2:54:53There could be the teams of fully embrace it first.
- 2:54:54Yeah, I was gonna mention Seattle.
- 2:54:57Think dilemma, they have a lot of really good top pitcher.
- 2:55:00So if you want them getting more Innings versus how do you keep
- 2:55:03him healthy type thing, because they've already had a lot of
- 2:55:05guys that have already been hurt this year.
- 2:55:06And I think that's the Dilemma that a like, organizational
- 2:55:10structure wise, you want to be able to because the concept
- 2:55:12Works in favor, but you also want to like make it work.
- 2:55:15Where you have your top players and balance your roster out that
- 2:55:17way too, where you could have that debt going on other areas.
- 2:55:20Now, obviously, most of the depth of the rosters the way
- 2:55:22it's structured right now with it, 26, men and roster want to
- 2:55:25have extra pictures as it is. Anyway, it's rather you see a
- 2:55:282021 Giants case. We have six guys on the bench
- 2:55:31hitting wise and make that kind of thing work, but in the case
- 2:55:35of the Mariners, definitely interesting.
- 2:55:37So, before I ask you a question job.
- 2:55:40Well, I was here. If you're the GM or a pitching
- 2:55:42coach, do you sacrifice a few extra innings from your number
- 2:55:45one? Guy via like a coal Gerrit Cole
- 2:55:49when he comes back or Corbin Burnes?
- 2:55:52oh, because you want them out there as Optimus possible.
- 2:55:55So you sacrifice Extra Innings from your number one for the
- 2:55:58potential health benefits and Longevity and the performance.
- 2:56:03I I can I see it both ways in and I'll say, yes, you
- 2:56:07obviously, health is first and foremost, but now what you've
- 2:56:12created to, if you do do that and we've seen it throughout the
- 2:56:16year where you give a guy an extra day and you turn it into
- 2:56:19like a six day, but not like consecutive throughout the year.
- 2:56:21Obviously, Japan there once a week.
- 2:56:24Yeah. Where where?
- 2:56:25I think it kind of can can hurt a little bit goody and let me, I
- 2:56:29want to get your perspective on this too.
- 2:56:30Is they've created to get to this point every five days.
- 2:56:35And their body has got to that point of okay, I know this is my
- 2:56:39routine. This is my routine.
- 2:56:41This is my routine. Now changing that routine
- 2:56:44doesn't help or does it hinder because now your body has to
- 2:56:46react in different way of getting the extra day.
- 2:56:48Yes, it may be The extra day that you need and certain
- 2:56:53circumstances throughout the year, which they do do.
- 2:56:57But now, if you're going to do that for the whole year, you're
- 2:57:01taking away a roster spot. Realistically, you're taking
- 2:57:04away, a bat, you're taking away defensive replacement, you're
- 2:57:06taking away a certain Dynamic of so I can see both sides of it.
- 2:57:12I just think when guys are so ingrained of every five days
- 2:57:17getting to the big leagues and that So you have to change it in
- 2:57:21in my early weeks too, then because you're not going to go
- 2:57:24every five days, then you get to the big leagues and now it's
- 2:57:27like, okay. Now I've got to add an extra day
- 2:57:29of. What the hell do I do?
- 2:57:32yeah, that's I don't know how much of an adjustment that would
- 2:57:36be. I mean, we're talking about the
- 2:57:38top 1% of, you know. Athletes.
- 2:57:40It's sucks, bro. It sucks.
- 2:57:42Yeah, I've done it. Yeah, I mean I know that you
- 2:57:45could do it. I know you have that, you'd
- 2:57:46probably have to throw your Bullpen two days.
- 2:57:49Shoot. I mean, I don't even know this
- 2:57:50how the schedule would work. I was never, I mean, I wasn't a
- 2:57:53starter in professional. Baseball is always ready every
- 2:57:55day. I loved him.
- 2:57:56Much, you know you have to do but As far as starters go.
- 2:58:02I think. If I'm gonna GM, obviously, I
- 2:58:06want my Ace out there. So, in the minor League's, they
- 2:58:08play for six days and then they have an off-day.
- 2:58:10Every week, I think Mondays are off day so the minor league.
- 2:58:12Like, if you had six starters, you could do that and everybody
- 2:58:16pitches one time a week. But then again, the roster of
- 2:58:19vacation implications and not having your Ace out there every
- 2:58:23fifth day. Like how does that look in the
- 2:58:26postseason, you know, now you early I'm curious about any team
- 2:58:30would like plan for an earlier in the season on a more
- 2:58:32consistent basis, with still having good pitching talents,
- 2:58:36Yeah, that's but that's yeah. I mean these are all things that
- 2:58:40need to be discussed and have been brought up.
- 2:58:43That's the only way to be your Insider though is what I'm
- 2:58:45saying. Like because I think you there
- 2:58:47is a dilemma. Do you want your Aces out there
- 2:58:49and top-end guys, more All right.
- 2:58:51So do you keep do you keep your? Yeah.
- 2:58:53I mean you keep your Ace on a five-day and everybody else go
- 2:58:56six. Like I don't know how that I
- 2:58:58don't know how it work. I don't know how any of that
- 2:59:01would work, but how about this? I'll make those decisions.
- 2:59:04How about this? Having your Ace pitch for
- 2:59:06Innings and playing him? Two, three times a week. if he's
- 2:59:11able and capable of doing or maybe playing him three Innings
- 2:59:14and having a pitch three straight and then and doing that
- 2:59:17now, you know, it's okay, so somebody like a Derek Cole or
- 2:59:21Clayton Kershaw or you know, whatever hunter green like what
- 2:59:25is that look like in terms of When he goes arbitration, hey
- 2:59:30you only throw three Innings, every, you know, four days or
- 2:59:34whatever it might be. Like, how does that affect his?
- 2:59:39Potential earnings. And then, how does that also
- 2:59:41play into the fact, if you have somebody who's good to be at a
- 2:59:43Hall of Famer, like, how does that rack up against the
- 2:59:46All-Star or the Hall of Fame? Oh, fish actually says, I think
- 2:59:50Ace the ace on five days and like everyone else is on six
- 2:59:56days is very interesting. That's what he says.
- 3:00:01Yeah. I don't know, I don't know.
- 3:00:03We'll see what happens. but, We'll see what happens.
- 3:00:08I mean it maybe it takes off. Maybe it doesn't, but I just
- 3:00:11thought that'd be something good to bring up here.
- 3:00:12It's coming along and for my last fall in the bag.
- 3:00:19I got it. I'm just gonna say a stat line.
- 3:00:22I want, you know what? I want you to tell me who it is.
- 3:00:25Point one. Innings pitch, seven runs five
- 3:00:29earn five hits allowed to walk. Zero strikeouts era for the
- 3:00:33game, 100 and 135. Every Mets, pitcher imaginable.
- 3:00:37Seems like recently does that jump off the table then if you
- 3:00:42guys I heard of it's not like that.
- 3:00:47If it was recently, I'm not sure offhand, but I know there was
- 3:00:51Montez rehab to start along 12 frogs.
- 3:00:54Yeah, Montas was got touched up there.
- 3:00:58Chase Burns. Chase Burns against the Red Sox
- 3:01:00and 30th really want a third of an inning seven runs earned or
- 3:01:04seven runs five earned. Five hits allowed to walks, no
- 3:01:08strikeouts broadcasters on Boston's live TV boost
- 3:01:12immediately speculated he was tipping his pitches Noting that
- 3:01:16the Yankees Sluggers were off on the side telling and tell as
- 3:01:20they were walking into the Dugout after scoring because it
- 3:01:22was like a damn area. Go round out there, you know.
- 3:01:26telling us what he's doing tipping his pitches on his
- 3:01:28slider and his fastball so, The Reds media said.
- 3:01:35In a quote they're not that chase Burns was not fooling the
- 3:01:39Red Sox hitters that night clearly he wasn't now.
- 3:01:43Do you know what tipping your pitches is Java.
- 3:01:46I know you can elaborate on this tipping your pictures for those
- 3:01:49who don't know who are listening or watching explain to them what
- 3:01:52tipping their tipping, your pitches means and how can
- 3:01:56implicate you and your start. Oh, it can be a lot of ways.
- 3:02:00It could be the way you hold your glove like this.
- 3:02:03You could be fastball. This could be a curveball and
- 3:02:06it's just these little little things that you see the way your
- 3:02:10hand shapes. I I got called out Tori.
- 3:02:12Hunter was one of the greatest to ever do it.
- 3:02:15And he would always do this, like he would do this and he
- 3:02:17goes just watch, just watch the picture, you'll see something.
- 3:02:21And it really, really helped me. But I was a bad finger flyer.
- 3:02:24So when I would throw a curveball, my finger would fly.
- 3:02:27So I had to use a finger condom So my finger wouldn't go up
- 3:02:30because I would tip every time that I would go to, that's
- 3:02:34again, that's a good. So what it is, that's what it
- 3:02:40is. Speed.
- 3:02:41It's really what helped me when we when we just when we design
- 3:02:45our gloves. That's literally what it's
- 3:02:46called a fingerhood. Yeah, but no.
- 3:02:50So yeah and so it's it could be where your hands come set.
- 3:02:53You could be right here. For a fastball.
- 3:02:57You could be right here for a curveball, but it's just those
- 3:03:00little things. And these guys are so good at
- 3:03:01picking up, things like that and everybody's watching it and it's
- 3:03:05how you separate your hands. Where is your wrist placement?
- 3:03:07Like how they can they see it? Like, there's just so many
- 3:03:09things where you can tip pitches and you know, it's just it's
- 3:03:15tough when you when you get into those kind of Rhythms.
- 3:03:19Because you know, it's just it's muscle memory.
- 3:03:22And so it's just kind of one of those things where you you have
- 3:03:24to for me personally, when I was doing because you don't feel it.
- 3:03:28No, I actually came up to me and game against The Orioles and
- 3:03:34told me I was tipping pitches. I went back and looked I wasn't
- 3:03:37he looked went back and looked and was I just sucked that day?
- 3:03:39Yeah, sometimes you just suck but it's true fact that these
- 3:03:43guys right here were sitting first pitch slider.
- 3:03:45I'm talking about Trevor story and mayor, we're sitting first
- 3:03:49pitch, slider and change up and just absolutely thinking monster
- 3:03:51hacks off them. When you see that as a picture,
- 3:03:54you who sits first pitch slide, everybody's taught to gear up
- 3:03:57for the fastball and adjust off speed.
- 3:03:58So like immediately tell The what they call Chase Burns Out
- 3:04:03was his elbow, is what I've seen all over Twitter.
- 3:04:05It was just Yeah, yeah, it's wrist.
- 3:04:09That's what it was. His wrist was whatever, doing
- 3:04:11whatever, turbo and straight on a fastball and don't not to
- 3:04:15mention, you have Alex core and that dog out too who's Pretty
- 3:04:19well known around the league for his time in Houston.
- 3:04:22So this isn't this, by the way, this isn't any legal to do.
- 3:04:25This is totally within the parameters of baseball.
- 3:04:29When you're giving a tip, look, I look for tips all the time, I
- 3:04:32guess the pictures we face and there's a ton of them.
- 3:04:34But It sucks. It sucks.
- 3:04:39Oh, I'm tipping is one. I look at Speedy, when he's in
- 3:04:42the bathroom, right? He's Beatty.
- 3:04:43Why are you looking at people in the back?
- 3:04:45I'm looking at you in the bathroom.
- 3:04:46I just Ah Speedy, tell him how you tip people when you're in
- 3:04:53the bathroom. Iconic thinking, are you?
- 3:05:00Ever, you know, show you thing to anybody in the bathroom.
- 3:05:03Know then how my thing is just dude he pitch against the
- 3:05:06Yankees in his first start punched out eight in a row and
- 3:05:09then he goes to Boston, like the Yankees couldn't pick up the
- 3:05:11youth. The Yankees couldn't pick up the
- 3:05:12tip in the first game. In Black memory eraser that I
- 3:05:23haven't brought that one in for a while.
- 3:05:25I got that one, I don't if it is too many good one.
- 3:05:32It is evolution. There's no question that we need
- 3:05:36nothing on the the ribs. Oh we got net breaking news.
- 3:05:40I farted In the breaking news, we meet them.
- 3:05:48Don't get Okay, doesn't make no breaking news.
- 3:05:54I want to hit it. Breaking news, a new digital.
- 3:06:03Best one. Now there's nothing fart after
- 3:06:07he eats the pound cake and drinks the gin and tonic or
- 3:06:10before my pinky is bigger than yours.
- 3:06:16Definitely possible. Carl plays with himself.
- 3:06:26Carl. Get beat up in the comments.
- 3:06:27Lulu drama drama. My rear end is burning.
- 3:06:33Looks like he wants a sign job. Anyways, anyways, he's got, he's
- 3:06:41got a chance to learn here and everybody in the league.
- 3:06:44I'm sure is scouring over their videos.
- 3:06:45I don't even know if people know who were talking about.
- 3:06:47Still Chase Burns, not Nathan. One third of an inning seven
- 3:06:53runs, five earned. That doesn't, that doesn't help
- 3:06:56to earn any by the way. No, well, that's what the 135
- 3:07:00year, right? And so, you know, and when asked
- 3:07:03about it burns kind of just drugs and Couldn't really tell
- 3:07:07you well couldn't really tell you so I'm sure the pitching
- 3:07:12coach. I think it's Derek Johnson and
- 3:07:14Chase Burns gonna be watching a ton of video.
- 3:07:17But I mean, what's stuff like that?
- 3:07:18You're showing on the screen right now?
- 3:07:19I mean, does it really? I mean, it just goes to show you
- 3:07:22that even the best, there's the world like when they know what's
- 3:07:24coming. They can hit. but some some guys
- 3:07:31like, did you ever run into guys at second like, Oh yeah, and the
- 3:07:36patterns where some guys would want to know.
- 3:07:38Some guys wouldn't want to know. Yeah, I played with Michael
- 3:07:41Brantley. He didn't want to know.
- 3:07:42He said it would screw him up one of the most underrated
- 3:07:46hitters in baseball, your header.
- 3:07:49Yeah. Yeah, he was a I thought he was
- 3:07:51the best pure hitter in the baseball for sure.
- 3:07:53Most balanced hitter. Unbelievable.
- 3:07:57Great fishermen too. I love Lisa and see.
- 3:08:03Now the real question who the different love Lisa?
- 3:08:06Ann Moore does Java love Sophie Cunningham board.
- 3:08:08That's the real question job. I like my shrimp cocktail. you
- 3:08:13see, so Sophie Cunningham twerk after the on live last night,
- 3:08:16I'm sure Who is that? Who is Sophie Cunningham.
- 3:08:20She's on the fever with Kate Lynn Clark. oh, this is a Gumby
- 3:08:26old man. Right, Lincoln and stick it.
- 3:08:32Oh Glory. Oh Glory.
- 3:08:38Don't do that one. Ladies and gentlemen.
- 3:08:40That was good. He's packable goodness.
- 3:08:42I need a cigarette after that freaking segment and a little
- 3:08:44knitted. Do you want to jerk me off?
- 3:08:49All right, ladies and gentlemen, our next segment tick tack no
- 3:08:54dick virus, right in the butt. We get the prizes cheap because
- 3:09:02they're stolen. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 3:09:12You're the girl action. Okay.
- 3:09:18Have it. I guess I was better than the
- 3:09:20spicy pepper. You're eating two weeks ago.
- 3:09:22Anyone? That was that burned me twice.
- 3:09:28Look at Speedy dads. That is one funny.
- 3:09:31Son of a, you know why? All right, well, you enjoy
- 3:09:33watching me involving people while you're involving watching
- 3:09:36me dancing out before I get to this, I would have read Wes's
- 3:09:40West, Stitz, and some betting picks.
- 3:09:41Let's probably could not make it in person tonight.
- 3:09:43Winnipeg Blue Bombers on the road covering -3 and a half
- 3:09:47against the Calgary Stampeders that's tomorrow in putting balls
- 3:09:51into a knot. Hey Hamilton tiger-cats covering
- 3:09:54plus one on the road in. Pick them against on Thursday or
- 3:10:00on Friday, Montreal at home, covering -3 and a half again and
- 3:10:07then he's got Edmonton, the poverty team of the CFL at home.
- 3:10:13Plus one and a half against the Ottawa Redblacks.
- 3:10:15This is my favorite part of the show because I can use this for
- 3:10:23everything. This is Great.
- 3:10:24No, I'm not embracing it. Oh yes.
- 3:10:30All right. Java is already changed his
- 3:10:32username to Public House. Yeah.
- 3:10:34That'll get some photos points, I guess.
- 3:10:38Well, that's it. That's a good one.
- 3:10:39I got the Bubble Guppies. Oh yeah, he's really do the best
- 3:10:44easily the best new recent job. I think shit.
- 3:10:49Oh, boy, there's a good. Don't worry goody.
- 3:10:52We're gonna get some of yours too.
- 3:10:54We gotta cut some of yours. So We got some new fish ones
- 3:10:57too. They're actually pretty funny.
- 3:10:59Nice. That's called sex.
- 3:11:00That was a funny one. Doesn't he look like he did?
- 3:11:09This did say, do do. oh, Definitely man.
- 3:11:14He's all about it, Lulu. Where where is Nathan?
- 3:11:20This is high here. He was here and then he just
- 3:11:22appeared Scoops. It's always moving.
- 3:11:24And shaking. My pinky is bigger than yours.
- 3:11:29all right, let's so, we're gonna Some baseball where you were
- 3:11:35talking about. The.
- 3:11:38The All-Star Game earlier Jason, Jacob Wilson become the first
- 3:11:42rookie shortstop ever to make it.
- 3:11:44And only the third in the last 21st century for the Athletics
- 3:11:48that I've actually won a fan boat named the other two
- 3:11:51players. Sahara.
- 3:11:54Know. Alex Rodriguez.
- 3:11:57Athletics players for the Angels.
- 3:12:00I can't hear you when you're eating the mic play with my Did
- 3:12:07you, did you say rookie? Shortstop couch but he's the
- 3:12:11first rookie shorts have to win. The fan.
- 3:12:13Vote is the, the question is not just rookies.
- 3:12:17It could be anybody. It just two eighties.
- 3:12:19Bobby Crosby. I need a blow pop.
- 3:12:22It was not Bobby Crosby. That's a good guess, though?
- 3:12:24I was thinking he would be one of them when I was doing this.
- 3:12:27All right, I could have sworn. It was gonna be hotter.
- 3:12:29That's crazy. Let me see rookie.
- 3:12:32You're talking about. No know anyone with the ace.
- 3:12:34Anybody what? So a popular ageless any Ace?
- 3:12:42Hitters as to be a hitter. Yeah.
- 3:12:45What's his name? He can play for the Mets.
- 3:12:51Who's the guy play with the Mets?
- 3:12:52Who got ran by a pig or whatever?
- 3:12:54Well, what was his name? What is this?
- 3:12:57I can't believe I forgot his name.
- 3:12:59The guy who ended up as a closer.
- 3:13:01No hitter. I'll feel her.
- 3:13:04He got a big contract from the Mets, he was bringing all these
- 3:13:08different cars to pretty spring training.
- 3:13:10Oh, I know oh yeah, and it's not the answer, man.
- 3:13:15It's a good guess though. I've heard, there's got to be.
- 3:13:18There's like crazy stories about that guy.
- 3:13:21And it's it's just starting, it didn't have to be at shortstop,
- 3:13:24right? Now, just any headers.
- 3:13:28Any hitters? Ace hitters.
- 3:13:33No, no 20 in the last 2000. 21st century Yonder Alonso.
- 3:13:38Know. It was.
- 3:13:42No good. That's a good Chris Davis with a
- 3:13:45K. Good.
- 3:13:46That's a good pay, raise. I think it's all stars with the
- 3:13:49Brewers. Not as much the ace.
- 3:13:50He was a okay. Cocoa Crispies know.
- 3:13:56Damn, that's a good guess, man. I got nothing for.
- 3:14:01I don't even know like one ace player.
- 3:14:05All right, so I got Jake Harrison, I'm just Rucker know.
- 3:14:10He got one more. Can I push my pick the job?
- 3:14:17Is that allowed? The damn, the left handed
- 3:14:23hitter. Did know, he's gonna say the
- 3:14:27movie would make. You think Scott hattieburg was
- 3:14:29no great players. He was it with the Astros or
- 3:14:33with the A's. Josh Reddick.
- 3:14:38Now. Shit.
- 3:14:40No, I don't think Joshua was an All-Star.
- 3:14:43Was it Kenya? Carlos Pena now.
- 3:14:46Okay. Speedy.
- 3:14:47Who is it? No, you guys have multiple
- 3:14:49guesses? It's two people.
- 3:14:50So oh I don't know. We only get one guess this one.
- 3:14:54Come on, let's go. All right so it actually works
- 3:14:55to Future Yankees. One of them was Jason Giambi.
- 3:14:59The other was Josh Donaldson. These two guys, get one guy.
- 3:15:02One I was giving you two guys. Come on.
- 3:15:04Let's go. So where we put all right
- 3:15:07Speedy, where you going and the middle?
- 3:15:12You like he likes it. There we go.
- 3:15:16All right, all right, so we'll go to school.
- 3:15:18Go to some basketball now. So, the year that the Cavalier
- 3:15:21that Mike Brown won coach of the year, with the Cavaliers in
- 3:15:232009, they lost in the Eastern Conference Finals to who Magic.
- 3:15:30Know. That's, that's the Celtics.
- 3:15:32Wait. Hold on goody, where are we
- 3:15:34saying? Sister Linda magic.
- 3:15:36This is correct. Oh that's a Howard here.
- 3:15:40That was the Dwight Howard. He didn't they wasn't it three
- 3:15:47times in a row? The The Lakers and the the
- 3:15:52Celtics. Nope.
- 3:15:53No, it was, it was, oh, it was Celtics Lakers, and then 09 was
- 3:15:58Orlando, Lakers. And then 010 was Lakers, Celtics
- 3:16:00rematch. Yeah, I remember watching that
- 3:16:02game, but that's what we have. Yeah, Sean, Jenny, Lewis.
- 3:16:08Yeah, Lewis. Sorry, Shawty, Lou, one of the
- 3:16:16shows, it wasn't very healthy too.
- 3:16:19Yeah. All right, we should Lewis got
- 3:16:22busted her steroids. Yeah, go ahead.
- 3:16:24Pull me up their baby. Let's go top.
- 3:16:26Right. Let's go the goodies.
- 3:16:27This is great. Yeah, you haven't even seen this
- 3:16:29yet. We have got a chance to use
- 3:16:31this. Yeah, right below.
- 3:16:33That sucker up. Look at me.
- 3:16:34Oh, dang. I'm a freaking TV star Harley.
- 3:16:37If you don't, if you got your stuff, go bottom left.
- 3:16:43That's fine. Bottom left.
- 3:16:44Make it big though. We want a big.
- 3:16:45Yeah. What the lady.
- 3:16:50Yes, suck it. A lot of hot lady drink it.
- 3:16:57That's probably what he's doing right now.
- 3:17:00All right, well, shift to some football for this one.
- 3:17:04So make a Fitzpatrick, is a one of three, Miami Dolphins who
- 3:17:08were all pro players in the 20th century named one of the other
- 3:17:12two. Defensive backs.
- 3:17:16You said Miami bags that are were all proud to send backs in
- 3:17:20the in the 20th and 21st century hours.
- 3:17:30And there's two of them. Yep.
- 3:17:33Dolphins defensive backs. And wasn't Ramsey.
- 3:17:43It was not, it was, it was not, he wasn't all pro, he was pro
- 3:17:47bowler with the dolphins when he was never Old Pro.
- 3:17:50It's all Pros were with the Jags and the Rams.
- 3:17:53Okay, I'm trying to remember. Trying to go back.
- 3:17:57Hey look, I got my one, you guys.
- 3:18:04That's a hard one. Did we silent play down there?
- 3:18:07We did not have them on the show now.
- 3:18:09Know. About revised down there.
- 3:18:14Anybody get. All right, I'll give you.
- 3:18:16I'll give you a hint. He has he has a tie with
- 3:18:20somebody currently in the NFL. A tie.
- 3:18:25It exactly what they wear. The same time.
- 3:18:28I would give it away. No he has I'll say connection.
- 3:18:30Is that a better word? I can't reveal exactly what it
- 3:18:33is. You really just Expedia or like
- 3:18:36or like he is a memory or play or something next Sister much of
- 3:18:43a help to a analytics. Current NFL Corner.
- 3:18:47How about that? He is connected to a current NFL
- 3:18:51Corner. Oh, I know exactly who this is.
- 3:18:54Where is it? Someone who is Kid is in the
- 3:18:59league now and it's Mister certain not correct.
- 3:19:02Look at that. Son would give it away.
- 3:19:04I would know how to really do up by.
- 3:19:05Yeah I think that was you Okay. Wow, look at you, Jon Fishman.
- 3:19:14Know, John's in my family. You want to jerk me off?
- 3:19:18Ethan is so creepy. In that it's I need Brittany
- 3:19:21also. That's great.
- 3:19:27All right, we're gonna go down here.
- 3:19:29I have no sack. All right, so we'll go back to
- 3:19:32baseball for this one, obviously, Aaron judge.
- 3:19:34I want 30 minutes, 33 home runs right now is a not far behind
- 3:19:38the American League record. For most before the All-Star
- 3:19:42break this player did it with 37, home runs in 2013. 2013
- 3:19:48really. Boys were playing that year,
- 3:19:56were you? Yeah.
- 3:19:59I said America right now. American League.
- 3:20:01Yes, America 37, before the break in the American League.
- 3:20:08Oh, 2013. He's taking me deep.
- 3:20:14It's Chris Davis. It's correct.
- 3:20:16With Baltimore, right? He took me deep in Texas on one
- 3:20:21of the eight changeups I've thrown in the big leagues.
- 3:20:22That bitch is not landed yet. Yeah, I was gonna say Chris
- 3:20:26Davis at the seal. I guess I could have thought
- 3:20:28like there it is. And then he went on if well we
- 3:20:33win. And that well, you know, he
- 3:20:35ended up. He didn't file his Tue.
- 3:20:37Yeah. You hit like 50 something and
- 3:20:40then he hit like 12 and hit like, 160 and was never the
- 3:20:43same. Yeah, you gotta keep on the
- 3:20:46Adderall, but he also got paid. So I know he, there he was
- 3:20:50interesting for shadow with Karen, actually saying the,
- 3:20:57whoa. And that was also had to bring
- 3:21:01it up, because now he's actually treatment is Bobby's getting
- 3:21:04paid up until I delete this Duty Dodger.
- 3:21:14Well, we won this time Speedy. Where is there?
- 3:21:17Come back with some harder ones. If he doesn't come back, I get I
- 3:21:22get to use him in analytics sentence.
- 3:21:28I need a magnifying glass, right?
- 3:21:31Strawberry jelly cream. Donut is what it is Speedy.
- 3:21:37Do you know what that is? I have no woody.
- 3:21:39I don't know what you're talking about.
- 3:21:42The nithin terminology or the random Intuit is the old days.
- 3:21:45You know, analytics is The Rock and necktie for tonight World.
- 3:21:52We're almost there before before the great.
- 3:21:56Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, we call this inside baseball.
- 3:21:59Now, let's go deep deep inside baseball.
- 3:22:07All right, let's go boys. Let's go inside baseball.
- 3:22:11We're gonna go through a bunch of stories in baseball right now
- 3:22:15and to start it off, we're gonna have to get into the All-Star
- 3:22:19game which just announced their starters at seven.
- 3:22:23I believe. It's like a little before. 8:00
- 3:22:25it was announced. I have the list up here.
- 3:22:27I'm gonna share my screen again with you before we get into the
- 3:22:31rest of this show but here it is.
- 3:22:34We have this starters up Right. Here.
- 3:22:40And if you take a look American League starters Cal, Raleigh
- 3:22:43Ryan, O'Hearn at DH. That's interesting.
- 3:22:47Vladimir Guerrero Jr. At first, gleyber Torres,
- 3:22:51starting at second base, Jose Ramirez a third rookie.
- 3:22:55Jacob Wilson at Short judge in the Outfield with Riley green
- 3:22:59and Javy Baez. Let's talk about those American
- 3:23:03League starters for a second boys.
- 3:23:05A couple of names. Jump out real quick Javi.
- 3:23:08Buy us that did not. It was not on my bingo card for
- 3:23:11being an All-Star started this year.
- 3:23:15What do you guys think? What was the last time he was
- 3:23:17good? Job of you.
- 3:23:18Remember, she's always been a swing and Miss guy.
- 3:23:24The probably. it had to be what the what was it the year before
- 3:23:30he left to sign with the Tiger's probably the year two before in
- 3:23:35with the Cubs? other than that, it's been Yeah,
- 3:23:39so it's it's been a minute. It's been four or five years.
- 3:23:41Probably. I like their infield, by the
- 3:23:43way, gleber Torres and and Javy Baez.
- 3:23:46Javy Baez is playing. Outfield dog.
- 3:23:48He plays center. Oh, that's playing the center.
- 3:23:51Well, I just pay attention but when right, I remember how you
- 3:23:57buyers from either shortstop or second?
- 3:23:59That's, that's what I remember him.
- 3:24:00As but well, he was, he was so bad.
- 3:24:03They but then he started hitting their like we gotta find you
- 3:24:06somewhere. So he's kind of been like, more
- 3:24:07of a platoon guy really. Now if he's playing Santa, Fe
- 3:24:12Trail incredible. If you think about it.
- 3:24:13You move from the infield, second and short and then you go
- 3:24:16to center field. Yeah, but there's a short stop,
- 3:24:19but you bet your butt must athlete plays.
- 3:24:21Shortstop, it can catch the ball.
- 3:24:23They can kill the ball so you can really rotate them.
- 3:24:25Anyway, well, I mean Mookie Betts with the opposite way.
- 3:24:28You know, I actually was listening to Buster only talk to
- 3:24:32say football strongly one of the baseball tonight.
- 3:24:34I think it was Tim kirchen talking about that soon as he
- 3:24:37stopped having to play short. The game got a lot easier for
- 3:24:40him because there's so much you have to do as a short stop and
- 3:24:43he had a bad hip for years and kind of try to tough through it.
- 3:24:46He had surgery he looks healthy and they got him off short.
- 3:24:50He played he played some Center while Meadows the prospect was
- 3:24:53out. He's I think he's playing more
- 3:24:55right field now but that's that's the first thing that
- 3:24:58jumps out the one that I don't like is Ryan o'hern who as far
- 3:25:01as I understand. I don't think he plays every day
- 3:25:03as a platoon is a lot. He's got good numbers but I
- 3:25:07don't think he's an everyday guy and Ben rice was up for it.
- 3:25:10I would I know Ben rice has struggled some.
- 3:25:12I thought he had enough to take that one.
- 3:25:14The DH in the American League is pretty weak, though.
- 3:25:16What do you guys know about o'hern Speedy?
- 3:25:18Let's start with you on this one.
- 3:25:19Well, Hermes always been a guy that's been a pretty steady
- 3:25:22hitter. Throw us for.
- 3:25:23I think this was kind of the big breakout.
- 3:25:25Yeah, you're right. He doesn't, he doesn't have the
- 3:25:27eye-popping numbers. But again, it's a DH position
- 3:25:30that because a lot of them rotate, sometimes play the
- 3:25:32field. Sometimes don't nowadays because
- 3:25:34of the universal rule. It's not really like you have a
- 3:25:36set in stone type 1 anymore but again still a good progressively
- 3:25:41good hitter just again you're right.
- 3:25:42It's just a weak position this year so it doesn't seem as good.
- 3:25:45It's not like you would say all right these are the nine best
- 3:25:47hitters. You're not gonna put him there.
- 3:25:50You know, like say a Suzuki so much better than than him, but
- 3:25:53he's in the National League behind autonomy at DH, so he's
- 3:25:56not gonna see the light of day. The only other name that was
- 3:26:00surprising. We talked about it already,
- 3:26:01Jacob Wilson, the rookie son of Jack Wilson.
- 3:26:04That's that's a little one. Was a little, you know, came out
- 3:26:07of nowhere. This year's contact guy.
- 3:26:09Not doesn't walk a lot, doesn't strike out a lot for rookie at
- 3:26:13all. For anybody really?
- 3:26:17That was that was the closest race 5248.
- 3:26:20And who did he beat out? Bobby Witt Jr.
- 3:26:22Yeah, Bobby with Junior and or, you know, arguably there's a guy
- 3:26:27we're gonna talk about later is had a better year than both of
- 3:26:30them. That's not on this list either.
- 3:26:32He's injured right now in Jeremy Pena.
- 3:26:35But guys, shorts shortstop of really loaded position.
- 3:26:38Jacob Wilson was hitting almost as high in batting average our
- 3:26:42most of the season, So we got, I got that one out.
- 3:26:46Just go ahead. Jacob Wilson can play baseball
- 3:26:51and do it defensively. He's offensively.
- 3:26:55He's got a nice little swing can run.
- 3:26:58I mean, being out Bobby Witt. Jr.
- 3:27:00Is a freaking Fall tasks and really the people in Sacramento
- 3:27:05their love, their of their Jacob Wilson.
- 3:27:08I think it's very good. I think.
- 3:27:09Yeah, they're not their numbers are very similarly, it's funny
- 3:27:13too because nobody really talks about batting average now.
- 3:27:15And that was the only thing that he was better than Bobby with
- 3:27:18two seventy nine, eleven and 45, and Jacob Wilson was 339, nine
- 3:27:23and 40. So I mean, it's just The dude
- 3:27:27doing it. As he you know, contact guy
- 3:27:28doesn't strike out much run and you know it's a great story man.
- 3:27:32It's The make make him the face of the franchise.
- 3:27:41So Errol if I'm counting, I see, two guys that are Hall of Famers
- 3:27:46on there, in my opinion, on the American League side, another
- 3:27:50guy that might be there. And one guy, having one of the
- 3:27:54greatest years of all time. And if you could do that every
- 3:27:56year, he would be a Hall of Famer it in the big dumper.
- 3:28:00But Jose Ramirez quietly. Is put up a Hall of Fame career
- 3:28:06and he still still doing it. I know you guys are big fans of
- 3:28:11his that played with him. Errol you tell me, obviously,
- 3:28:15I'm mentioning judge. If he's gonna keep this up, he's
- 3:28:18going to the Hall of Fame Gladiator.
- 3:28:19By the way, if it's a judge were to retire right now, he's a
- 3:28:23whole thing. Just so, you know, glad you're
- 3:28:25only 26. He?
- 3:28:30Yeah, I was gonna ask you about Riley green a little bit because
- 3:28:33he's always been a prospect. That's had good, bad and bald
- 3:28:37skills and Speedy. We talked about this early here.
- 3:28:41He's, he's been in All Star but now, I mean, it's in the last
- 3:28:45week, he is breaking. My goodness.
- 3:28:47Yep. We know how to breed them down
- 3:28:49here in Florida about? Yeah, he's been.
- 3:28:51He's been rising for a while now.
- 3:28:53And again, it's a matter of hell.
- 3:28:55He is a perennial All Star dude. He is a top gear All-Star, one
- 3:28:59of the better hitters in baseball, they balance.
- 3:29:01I mean, does it all doesn't defensively?
- 3:29:04Doesn't offensively could run and broke.
- 3:29:06I want you to subscribe. Average power plays on a place
- 3:29:10on the number one team in America League Central right
- 3:29:12now. Maybe arguably the best team in
- 3:29:14baseball. Site.
- 3:29:16And he's there he is their leader thickness.
- 3:29:19Well, where does the nickname the big dumper rank for you for
- 3:29:23power hitters? I mean, Speedy.
- 3:29:27What would be, what would your answer be for that one?
- 3:29:30Or I I'm not the one that's the dumper type.
- 3:29:33That's that's more Scoops is Department.
- 3:29:34That actually is Scoops. Is the fathers?
- 3:29:37I don't know. That's a pretty cool name.
- 3:29:40We've heard a lot of cool names over the years in professional
- 3:29:43sports, but the big dumper definitely stands out for all
- 3:29:46the rest. So, I'll graded today. 98 plus
- 3:29:50hey, I think the national League's got a better roster
- 3:29:53personally. I'm just looking at it got a
- 3:29:56whole bunch of Dodgers, right? At the top of that list.
- 3:29:57We got Will Smith at catcher. Shohei ohtani dhing, Freddie
- 3:30:03Freeman, at first base. Surprise is a nobody Ketel.
- 3:30:07Marte has been you know been really good for a number of
- 3:30:11years. He's been consistent, he's been
- 3:30:12healthy. He had that weird thing that
- 3:30:14Kyle Tucker. A future New York Yankees.
- 3:30:17Oh yeah, well talk about her in a second.
- 3:30:19Manny Machado just keeps doing it.
- 3:30:22He's in his 30s. Now, still power, he's a guy
- 3:30:25that when It's all said and done depending on how long he plays.
- 3:30:28They may be talking about him as a Hall of Fame because there's a
- 3:30:30whole Elite defense Elites Elite.
- 3:30:33I don't know if he's a Hall of Famer.
- 3:30:34It's interesting question, I think it's how many more years
- 3:30:37does he have to do it to be a Hall of Famer as my question,
- 3:30:41because if he can, I think it might be four or five years,
- 3:30:44think he's 33. Can he get there?
- 3:30:48Because that defense, especially when he was younger, I mean he
- 3:30:52made plays nobody was making like he can get a guy out man.
- 3:30:57I mean he used to be able to I've seen that I do some shit,
- 3:30:59it's just crazy how good he is. It's when you put a short stop
- 3:31:03at third and he's a whole family, he doesn't need to do
- 3:31:06much, he has 355 home runs batting to 80 RBIs almost 1100,
- 3:31:11stolen bases. I mean, slugging percentage.
- 3:31:14He's he's all, he's a Hall of Fame I right now.
- 3:31:19What's his War? You see.
- 3:31:21His war is war. Career is 60.2.
- 3:31:26That's he's gonna be in the Hall of Fame if he's over 60 already,
- 3:31:29I would imagine they'll have a few more years.
- 3:31:31They'll get to 70 Speedy. What's like that?
- 3:31:33Cut off. For the Hall of Fame with War.
- 3:31:36I actually, I know they usually I have to see the whole like
- 3:31:40ever adjusted because I know it's different with the
- 3:31:43different eras. So it says, the average Hall of
- 3:31:47Famer gets between 50 and 70 war.
- 3:31:49With the top Legends are like over 100.
- 3:31:53So he's right on Pace, you're right because of that defense is
- 3:31:56gonna get that war up there. That's the deal with him so
- 3:31:59other guys, Kyle Tucker Pete, Crow Armstrong.
- 3:32:04Former Mets Prospect Pete, Crow Armstrong is having one of the
- 3:32:09best seasons. Nobody saw come and play in
- 3:32:12center field was always great defender.
- 3:32:14And now he's one of the top five hitters in baseball, playing in
- 3:32:18front, of, I said, mentioned say a Suzuki.
- 3:32:20I'm sure he'll be on the All-Star team eventually, but
- 3:32:24Kyle Tucker having just an absurd contract season.
- 3:32:27He's got 20 21, stolen bases after tonight and he's over 15
- 3:32:32home orders. He's hidden for with average
- 3:32:34power, lots of doubles Arrow. Where is that?
- 3:32:38How much money is Kyle Tucker getting next year?
- 3:32:42He's gonna get paid. Know, is he stuck?
- 3:32:48All right. Oh no, I think the studio is
- 3:32:50stuck again, boys. Oh, We lost the studio.
- 3:32:54We're gonna keep going. They're probably gonna tell us
- 3:32:57to stop at some point. We didn't stop.
- 3:33:00We just kept going when they reset the internet.
- 3:33:02Me and Jake did yesterday. All right well I'll Tucker's
- 3:33:05legit. Maybe a future Yankee.
- 3:33:08Good swing. We'll see what happens.
- 3:33:11The Francisco Lindor. One of the best players in the
- 3:33:14game of baseball Mr. Smiles crazy.
- 3:33:17He's been there five times but this is the first time he's ever
- 3:33:19started. That is interesting.
- 3:33:21What was he behind that? He couldn't start over when he
- 3:33:24was in Cleveland. OH, that's a good question.
- 3:33:28I don't remember who the starting, shortstop was for them
- 3:33:31and that All-Star games. But I do remember, he's really
- 3:33:352020s would have been. Yeah, 20, it would have been 20
- 3:33:3917 20, 16, 17, 18, Yeah, let's who would that be and 19?
- 3:33:49Let's see. I'll try to find it out real
- 3:33:52quick. In real time, Carlos Correa.
- 3:33:56That's right. But I didn't Xander Bogaerts.
- 3:34:00Yeah, but Frankie Frankie's know, he's well, that's that's
- 3:34:07where it comes with the stupid. Like okay, yeah, he's in
- 3:34:10Cleveland and yeah, they're great fans.
- 3:34:11But now you have a like a bigger Market with a Zander and stuff
- 3:34:15like that. I mean, that's right.
- 3:34:16I think the fan vote is, I think it should be flip-flopped.
- 3:34:20I think the fan should do the reserves, the players should do
- 3:34:24the starters. I think the player, I mean, I
- 3:34:27like the fan boat because, you know, it's I like it, but I
- 3:34:30think it's, I like it in the fact that it gets fans talking
- 3:34:33about baseball and voting voting on The players but like some
- 3:34:38guys that are in, it shouldn't be in it.
- 3:34:42You know, in the crazy part this year, half of half of the
- 3:34:45starters, this is their first time ever starting an All-Star
- 3:34:48game. Yeah, well okay that's fine
- 3:34:51that. Yeah, I mean that's crazy but at
- 3:34:53the same time, There's guys that are hitting.
- 3:34:57You know, 200, that'll be an all.
- 3:34:59That was James would not even in a conversation.
- 3:35:01Well, I think somebody has a cognia voted for.
- 3:35:06This is the vote, right? So Acuna, look, you can't say
- 3:35:09anything yet. He hasn't played the whole
- 3:35:11season. Obviously, I don't know what the
- 3:35:12criteria was for games to be voted in, but everyone knows the
- 3:35:16season Queen. Yeah.
- 3:35:17You don't you don't have you. There is no games.
- 3:35:19There is a year. Omar and fonsi.
- 3:35:23After the Royals won, he was hitting like 208 and he was
- 3:35:27leading the All-Star vote yet. It's not real, like that's what
- 3:35:32all sorts, it's whatever. It's just, it's like, dude, the
- 3:35:36pictures. The pictures are more true
- 3:35:38because the players vote for the pictures, you get a list that
- 3:35:41comes out, your name is on the list and you bubble in the guys.
- 3:35:44So you want and most of the time, like there's great middle
- 3:35:47relievers, that don't become all stars because they don't have
- 3:35:50the saves. So it'd be just it, obviously,
- 3:35:52when you watch the All-Star Game, it goes, starting,
- 3:35:55pitcher, starting, pitcher, starting to get, whatever.
- 3:35:56And when they get to the bullpen at those guys actually want to
- 3:35:59pitch that day. It's like closer closure,
- 3:36:01closure closure, close. It very rarely.
- 3:36:03Do you see like a setup guy make it with 40 holes or something?
- 3:36:07Sucks. But I think that's more true.
- 3:36:12So I want to talk about another guy.
- 3:36:14We know is going to the Hall of Fame and Max Scherzer Scherzer
- 3:36:18came back for the Blue Jays the other was that yesterday?
- 3:36:24Five, five innings, seven, strikeouts, the Blue Jays, get
- 3:36:27the win, they obviously, once tonight as well taken to the
- 3:36:29Yankees. We're talking about the Yankees
- 3:36:32in a second. I want to talk about Scherzer
- 3:36:34first, just show you having this awesome 10 pitch at bat with
- 3:36:37judge, eventually won this one against judge but you know it
- 3:36:44you love watching. You know, the great battles in
- 3:36:48baseball. Ensures are I guess he's 40
- 3:36:50years old or almost 40 years old at this point.
- 3:36:52He's definitely a Hall of Famer. He still looks like he's got it.
- 3:36:57I think the better question is than like this battle.
- 3:37:00It's how important is he going to be to the Blue Jays?
- 3:37:03If they are going to make a run this year?
- 3:37:06I mean Max's Max is a different dude.
- 3:37:08I would play it against him and with him, you know, since since
- 3:37:13college and There's nobody that puts in work like that guy.
- 3:37:18He's he'll definitely put the work in and he has them
- 3:37:22mentality. It may not be 99, but he's gonna
- 3:37:25throw with conviction and and he's gonna go out and compete
- 3:37:28his tail off. He he's fun to watch.
- 3:37:30He He's a leader and in a lot of ways not so much the rush come
- 3:37:36back. It's more of like about the way
- 3:37:38he goes about his business and how he prepares.
- 3:37:40And he was, he was a fun one to to have on your side that's for
- 3:37:45sure. I watched him against Cleveland,
- 3:37:48I don't know what was it. Thursday of last week.
- 3:37:52I think it's Thursday. I think.
- 3:37:57Yeah. Or or Wednesday.
- 3:38:00I think I watched him at the tail and on Wednesday against
- 3:38:03Cleveland. I mean a stuff is fine, it's not
- 3:38:06whatever everybody sees now which is 99 to 100.
- 3:38:09So like when you see a 93 mile an hour fastball now you're
- 3:38:12like, oh that's kind of slow, you know, which is crazy, but he
- 3:38:15went out, he pitched. Well, he had I think he had one
- 3:38:17rough inning and still got through five or six Innings and
- 3:38:21did find so. I mean when you're coming up as
- 3:38:24a rookie and you you're watching a veteran, go about business
- 3:38:27giving up a lot of runs early in the game and still being able to
- 3:38:29go deep into the game. So that's a good example.
- 3:38:31That's the tone and I think the Blue Jays took two out of three
- 3:38:36from Cleveland. He's gonna be, he's a big part
- 3:38:41of them and it's him. And Kevin Gossman, And found
- 3:38:44Francis when he comes back will be fine.
- 3:38:46So I was looking up what? I think it's fascinating.
- 3:38:50The Yankees have one of the best run.
- 3:38:52Differential Speedy, yet. I look up the stats, called
- 3:38:56clutch now. And what they use is they use
- 3:38:58WPA and a bunch of different measurements to figure out both
- 3:39:02hitting and pitching not just hitting, but who are the best
- 3:39:06and worst clutch teams in baseball.
- 3:39:09It's a very fascinating statistic where where the maps
- 3:39:13they're not very high either because they can't hit with
- 3:39:14Runners and scoring position. Save their life.
- 3:39:16I don't think they were super high, but the Yankees were
- 3:39:20embarrassingly low. They were tied for third worst
- 3:39:24in the clutch analytics. And it's like by a lot like
- 3:39:28their, the, the three, those four teams that are at the
- 3:39:31bottom. There are pretty far beets below
- 3:39:33everybody. And it explains why the Yankees
- 3:39:35are now. I don't even, are they 10 games
- 3:39:37over or they nine games over 500?
- 3:39:39Now yet, they have such a positive run, differential,
- 3:39:42they're one of the worst clutch teams In baseball for years.
- 3:39:46Analytical guys. Like you Speedy have told us
- 3:39:50there's no momentum, there's no clutch.
- 3:39:52Finally, a statistician came out with a clutch stat.
- 3:39:56I want you to tell us a little bit about the stat and what this
- 3:39:59means for the Yankees as well. Well, it means you have a lot of
- 3:40:02guys that either do well, just leading off Innings, or you have
- 3:40:06a lot of guys like Ariel saying with Cody Bellinger that a lot
- 3:40:08of solo. Home runs, its circumstances are
- 3:40:11going to be different with the clutch is obviously magnified
- 3:40:14more in the playoffs as it is, then it is thrown a whole sample
- 3:40:18in the regular season. So again if something that maybe
- 3:40:21it could change, like Josh Towers was just saying
- 3:40:24yesterday, like can it change our two weeks span to have just
- 3:40:28hit for some guys? Another question because those
- 3:40:30can be in a smaller sample, one of the more deceiving ones like
- 3:40:33even when it comes to like Bullpen stats and certain types
- 3:40:36of hitting stats, those could be deceiving in the playoffs,
- 3:40:39Texas. Had the like one of the worst
- 3:40:41Bullpen. They American League and made it
- 3:40:42work in the postseason. When you look at the Clutch.
- 3:40:45Stats of Like the Royals hitting wise, the way they did when they
- 3:40:49beat the Mets like they're offense, wasn't like a raw like
- 3:40:52offense on paper. Like all right, this is a good
- 3:40:55offense. It's not like the Yankees, like
- 3:40:57offensive their Peak type thing. So that's where I it's tough to
- 3:41:01tell right now. But for the Yankees you got to
- 3:41:03be a little concerned. Second half, good time.
- 3:41:06To turn it around. Java.
- 3:41:08How do you fix that? I mean, how do you fix not being
- 3:41:14clutch? That's what happened.
- 3:41:16If I knew I would I'd write a book and make it and it's just,
- 3:41:24I think. Is I think you just have it or
- 3:41:28you don't. I mean there's, there's guys
- 3:41:30that you see that that step up that you least expected to, you
- 3:41:34know, they're Obviously good. Some guys, just have it.
- 3:41:36Some guys are able to slow the game down and not let it get too
- 3:41:40big. Others, let the game get too
- 3:41:42fast and passes them up, and they cancel the game down.
- 3:41:46I mean it's everybody's different, everybody handles
- 3:41:48that that Gene that clutch Gene differently.
- 3:41:52Some people embrace it. Some people run from it, some
- 3:41:56people are scared of it. It's just, it's hard to quantify
- 3:42:00it and the only way you literally do qualify as by
- 3:42:03numbers. But also, it's hard to quantify.
- 3:42:07There is a gentleman and he's like, a super uber like
- 3:42:10scientist guy. He we talked about this when we
- 3:42:13were in college. That's how far ahead of like he
- 3:42:16wanted to do this for like all of major sports.
- 3:42:19Like, how can a quantify whether you Buckle under pressure, or
- 3:42:22you have that clutch Gene, like he was working on it for like it
- 3:42:25was like a thesis for his PhD and I just you can quantify it
- 3:42:30by numbers, but you can't quantify by anything else.
- 3:42:32You just the numbers kind of prove themselves over time.
- 3:42:36About how about who's coming up and clutch situations the most
- 3:42:41for the New York Yankees. You just put up a post about
- 3:42:45Volpe leaving 149 runners in scoring position.
- 3:42:48It's the same guy coming up with Runners and storm position and
- 3:42:52not getting the job done. That's going to tank your clutch
- 3:42:55analytic. if Aaron judge comes up with Runners and scoring
- 3:42:58position, You know, more times than not that the Yankees are
- 3:43:03probably not tied, third, worst and clutch analytics.
- 3:43:06Right? And it's just, I mean,
- 3:43:07sometimes, you know how that goes, it's like all right, this
- 3:43:10dude's gonna get up, you know, it's gonna happen.
- 3:43:12Something's got no judges, give me walked in those situations.
- 3:43:15These days too. You see him getting lived?
- 3:43:17Yes, you are good. I think it's just, it's gonna
- 3:43:19eventually go against your clutch stats, because he's not
- 3:43:22gonna be getting that you don't have a chance.
- 3:43:24Yeah, right. But does that is a walk in a
- 3:43:27clutch situation? I think it would be like the
- 3:43:30same. Isn't it bad?
- 3:43:31Where it wouldn't count but Speedy, you know, better than me
- 3:43:33on that one. Irel I, I have a finger to point
- 3:43:36on this one and to me team when I, I've had teams, you know,
- 3:43:41just coaching different sports is in the youth levels.
- 3:43:45Some of those teams don't run through a wall for their coach
- 3:43:47and they'll work hard and they'll be extra focused because
- 3:43:51of their coach. They're like.
- 3:43:54Some, I feel like in baseball, you said a good, Terry Francona.
- 3:43:57I think everyone's focused in that dugout, You get that
- 3:44:00feeling when Mr? Bone, yes, I do.
- 3:44:02I think the Yankees all the Yankees, love them.
- 3:44:05You see him. Go out there, stick up for the
- 3:44:07players. He's out there, screaming at the
- 3:44:09umpires, he's behind the players.
- 3:44:11I think every single one of the Yankees right now are behind
- 3:44:15him, that's why he's still has a job.
- 3:44:16But like I said, I told Speedy, if the Yankees, don't go to the
- 3:44:19World Series this year, they're the best team besides Detroit,
- 3:44:22they're the best team in the American League if they don't
- 3:44:25win the division, and go to the world series.
- 3:44:27I mean, it's a loss and I think Aaron Boone will be gone, no
- 3:44:31matter what kind of extension he got, but the players believe in
- 3:44:34our boom, I think Yankee fans hate on him because he hasn't
- 3:44:38won anything and they love Joe Girardi.
- 3:44:40But go look what Joe Girardi did.
- 3:44:42When he left the Yankees, he did nothing and he doesn't even have
- 3:44:44a job anymore. Works with the Yankees as a
- 3:44:46broadcaster. It's yeah.
- 3:44:48Love her hate relationship. Yeah, he has a job, but it's a
- 3:44:52Love or hate relationship when it comes down and boom, I think
- 3:44:55Karen Boone's a lot better than people say he is.
- 3:44:57I it's just right now. These guys aren't hitting and,
- 3:45:01and they're not a clutch team. They never work.
- 3:45:03They haven't been clutch since the 90s on Lee.
- 3:45:06That was the last time. The Yankees were so very clutch
- 3:45:09when the Yankees won like four out of like, what was it?
- 3:45:12Four out of like six or seven. I mean, like it's ridiculous
- 3:45:15that we weren't clutching on nine.
- 3:45:17We have 14 come from here. Walk off.
- 3:45:21I am not saying from, from 96 to 2003, the only time the Yankees
- 3:45:27weren't in the World, Series was 97 in 2002.
- 3:45:30I think there were more clutch in the 90s and, and the early
- 3:45:332000, I'm not saying that the Yankees weren't clutched in
- 3:45:362009. It was just, I would have to
- 3:45:38look at the stats for that Arrow, but I, I just don't get
- 3:45:41that clutch feeling and I and I sometimes think like the really
- 3:45:45good coaches that crap doesn't happen on their teams.
- 3:45:48That's just just how I feel about it and I I really hope
- 3:45:53they can turn it around. I think there's a couple of
- 3:45:55holes on that line up, particularly in the infield, on
- 3:45:59the left side, that need to be figured out, not give away names
- 3:46:03but also give them away at same time, but we got another team in
- 3:46:07New York. They did just win.
- 3:46:08So this number is wrong, but the Mets are now four and fourteen
- 3:46:13cares. Since June actually says 17 June
- 3:46:1614th. They're pitching is falling
- 3:46:19apart. They're in having Injuries.
- 3:46:22They're not scoring runs Soto's hitting 2508 done deal.
- 3:46:26Well, he got hot with nobody else did.
- 3:46:28Right? What is he right now?
- 3:46:31Well, he was hitting like, 220 for a while, and now he's up to
- 3:46:34the height 250s. Look, he's not a 300 hitter
- 3:46:37Soto, but he's gonna be there. Yeah, he's, that's that's fine.
- 3:46:40765 million days. 257, that's, that's fine.
- 3:46:47I guess we'll start with the Mets fan speedy.
- 3:46:50Is, is this? Because I thought it was Fool's,
- 3:46:53Gold, all along with the Mets rotation.
- 3:46:54I didn't expect it to fall apart like this.
- 3:46:57All right. I don't think it's completely
- 3:46:59irredeemable but it's certainly not a good look heading into the
- 3:47:02All-Star break. There was gonna be some
- 3:47:04regression at some point. I was just hoping it would never
- 3:47:06fall to this level when you're allowing nine runs to the
- 3:47:09Pirates and getting swept by the Pirates.
- 3:47:11You gotta be really good at that point to get anything work.
- 3:47:14Where you need not won the meet two arms, sanghas injury since
- 3:47:17then really. Is that damage the whole
- 3:47:19rotation. David Peterson's looked good.
- 3:47:21But even he started to regress, and like you said, three
- 3:47:24different Bullpen injuries is definitely concerning and then
- 3:47:26the young hitters they're not hitting.
- 3:47:27We talked about it. Last week Vientos baby all
- 3:47:30falling apart all at once. It's not the veteran hitter,
- 3:47:31it's really everyone else. Yeah, I mean what happens like,
- 3:47:37when you're in a competitive division, this is the one of the
- 3:47:39most competitive Vision. The Marlins are ahead of the
- 3:47:42Brave's. The Braves have had the year
- 3:47:44from hell with injuries, So the Mets are sitting having to deal
- 3:47:48with these other two. Powerhouses We got the Phillies,
- 3:47:52just got Bryce Harper back. Got hit in the face in his first
- 3:47:55game back. I'll show you that in a little
- 3:47:56bit. Did come out of his hand and hit
- 3:47:59him in the face. Not good luck for that guy.
- 3:48:01This year. But they're getting healthy the
- 3:48:03Phillies. And we know the other team.
- 3:48:06So how are they gonna get past these these other two teams and
- 3:48:11their division, are they going to be able to be a playoff team?
- 3:48:14They're in a lot of trouble. Yeah.
- 3:48:16There's sitting pretty but yeah, it's a lot of extremes when he
- 3:48:20comes to the Mets when it comes to their Bullpen.
- 3:48:22Went from top five in baseball, to bottom, not in 20th at the
- 3:48:27starting rotation. They're just not getting enough
- 3:48:28length and like you said there's a lot of competition in the
- 3:48:31National League depthwise that you didn't expect to get at the
- 3:48:35beginning of the year and now west I think is specialty.
- 3:48:37You're getting a lot of that the Diamondbacks are still hanging
- 3:48:39tough you gonna miss all the injuries they've had with Corbin
- 3:48:41Carroll. Now obviously Corbin Burnes
- 3:48:42being lost for the year and I don't Central is getting a
- 3:48:45little more depth wise too besides the Pirates really
- 3:48:47everyone else is there? Look there's four teams I'm
- 3:48:50counting and and you tell me Earl, which is the odd team out
- 3:48:54of these four Padres Giants. Mets.
- 3:49:00Phillies. It's not going to be fairly
- 3:49:03easy. I think the metal figure things
- 3:49:05out. I don't think there is bad as
- 3:49:07their playing right now. One of those teams won't make
- 3:49:09it. Ah, which team I'm gonna say
- 3:49:11Padres. It's Okay.
- 3:49:15All right, fair enough. What do you boys?
- 3:49:16Think the Mets have enough juice to make it.
- 3:49:20The way they're sitting right now, they're gonna have to make
- 3:49:21a move. Remember there's a lot of
- 3:49:23baseball left. I mean, well, I know, but we're
- 3:49:25at the halfway point of the schedule right now, right?
- 3:49:28So it's in the trade deadline's coming up, I'm sure we'll be
- 3:49:31talking trade deadline in the feet in a couple weeks all day,
- 3:49:34right? And in the Mets are gonna be in
- 3:49:37that position. Where do they go?
- 3:49:39All in Uncle, Stevie likes to spend money.
- 3:49:41We know Uncle Steve's going to open the pocketbooks.
- 3:49:45But who, what do they need to me?
- 3:49:47It's an arm. I they definitely need a front
- 3:49:50of the line, they don't have one.
- 3:49:52They've been piecing it together for two years with God.
- 3:49:55I mean last year is with Quintana piece, you know what I
- 3:49:58mean? Like the guys, they added
- 3:49:59Montez, why don't we reach out to Nik Goodie and get him a year
- 3:50:03or two year contract and and bring Java back and then Mets
- 3:50:07get their arms that they need in their Bullpen.
- 3:50:09There you go game over on to the next another job was implying he
- 3:50:13would never pitch for the mass. That's what you got.
- 3:50:15Money answer. Get these two guys, you know,
- 3:50:17get them back in the league and have them a fill in some Bullpen
- 3:50:22role and I think we'll be in good shape.
- 3:50:24I mean the Mets will be in good shape because no matter what the
- 3:50:27Mets do they're just their heads so far up their asses right now.
- 3:50:30Let's go on to the next one. I've been to a lot of baseball
- 3:50:35games. I was at one this weekend job I
- 3:50:39I saw a guy in a Java, Chamberlain Jersey, took a
- 3:50:42picture sent it out to everybody.
- 3:50:44We got that guy. A drink took a picture of it.
- 3:50:47I'll post a picture in a little bit.
- 3:50:48I can figure out how to but there's a big fan, and I've
- 3:50:55never seen. Fans other than in the World
- 3:50:59Series, those two guys with Mookie Betts.
- 3:51:01Just want to interfere with games, let alone in the regular
- 3:51:05season. Apparently there's been a fan
- 3:51:08that the Diamondbacks have that routinely Gets in trouble for
- 3:51:13interfering in games like he's just always sitting by the wall
- 3:51:17and he's always interfering like it's not been once it's been a
- 3:51:22handful of times so they did this yesterday fish he admitted
- 3:51:27he got he's already been ejected twice like this a bunch of
- 3:51:31times. So I mean I didn't realize you
- 3:51:35guys covered this already but look, I gotta mention it.
- 3:51:37It's one of the crazier fan things I've seen is there.
- 3:51:41He guys have any stories from from your playing days of just
- 3:51:45weird? Weird crap fans did to interfere
- 3:51:49or try to interfere because I didn't I never done anything
- 3:51:51like that. All the home runs.
- 3:51:54Zack hample Yeah, I met him a couple times actually I got I
- 3:51:59used to know, I'm a first name basis and yes, he caught all the
- 3:52:02home. Runs that every game.
- 3:52:03That any any homework? I remember him in Baltimore.
- 3:52:06I remember him in Yankee Stadium.
- 3:52:07Remember he caught a homer in Cleveland?
- 3:52:09He likes but he likes studies where they're like home runs and
- 3:52:13everything goes like is he has like a method to his Madness.
- 3:52:16Yes. And he has a, he did somebody
- 3:52:20Sports Illustrated or somebody did an article on him like, had
- 3:52:25all the baseballs that oh he, he tasted himself.
- 3:52:28Yes. Hey, listen, he's like that kind
- 3:52:33of, he's there. All right.
- 3:52:36Let's mine was a Streaker that tastes himself.
- 3:52:41Oh, that's disgusting. Way to go about life.
- 3:52:47I have tasted myself before, yes.
- 3:52:50All right, let's get finished. Let's finish this up with the
- 3:52:53injury report. Spencer schwellenbach out of
- 3:52:56nowhere. Had a 12 strikeout game last
- 3:52:58game out. Fractured his elbow, he's
- 3:53:02probably not coming back. I was like fantasy Jam this
- 3:53:04year. I want you to, I mean, he's been
- 3:53:06great. He's been Ace Worthy on a staff
- 3:53:09with a bunch of Aces on it, that just couldn't be healthy.
- 3:53:12All year Striders rounding into form.
- 3:53:15Now, they lost swelling, Bob, it's it's a shame, you know,
- 3:53:18they got sale sales on young guy.
- 3:53:22They just they just transferred sale to the 60-day.
- 3:53:24Yeah, he's got like, what are they gonna do?
- 3:53:28What are they gonna do? They're gonna go.
- 3:53:30It feels like it's time to punt. Are they going to be sellers?
- 3:53:35At the deadline, they're not a typical team that ever sells
- 3:53:38they, but they get all their guys for long-term deals.
- 3:53:42So who do they even have that they might sell?
- 3:53:45That's what's tough with them because they're never been in
- 3:53:47that position. They haven't had to be there.
- 3:53:49Such a stable organization and like, Java you've mentioned it's
- 3:53:52like, why aren't more teams doing what they're doing?
- 3:53:54But at the same time when they're either, the guys are
- 3:53:57hurt, maybe it makes the contracts lesson.
- 3:53:59Well here's here's a little of the downfall of that because
- 3:54:02you're kind of yeah. Now you're kind of stuck dealing
- 3:54:04with an injuries happen but now just kind of piles up and that's
- 3:54:07like, what do you give away at this point?
- 3:54:11Yeah, it's it's tough to say just looking at their their
- 3:54:13lineup. I mean, I guess marcelo's unas
- 3:54:16like they you know the guy that if you can move them you do
- 3:54:19please. You know.
- 3:54:22He's he's been he's a little banged up though, you know?
- 3:54:25He's a great player, he's a great hitter when he's healthy.
- 3:54:27He has been healthy this year as in very well and over a month.
- 3:54:32So I don't know if that's the guy, but everyone else that on
- 3:54:35their roster is pretty much locked up long term.
- 3:54:38So I guess that's the one guy that might get moved.
- 3:54:40You're on Alvarez. Has another setback on his
- 3:54:45broken hand. Houston has great pitching.
- 3:54:48We know he's got great pitching. They got framber, Valdez.
- 3:54:52It was one of the best pictures in baseball in the last five
- 3:54:55years. Hunter Brown is a Cy Young
- 3:54:59Contender this year. If it wasn't for school bull,
- 3:55:02And maybe crochet, he's the best pitcher in the AL, he's
- 3:55:05definitely top three right now. Maybe top two.
- 3:55:10But Houston doesn't, they just lost Jeremy Pena as well.
- 3:55:15With a broken rib or rib cartilage, or one of those types
- 3:55:18of things where he's going to be out probably a month.
- 3:55:21They're in a lot of trouble because that's their offense.
- 3:55:24Alvarez is their power hitter. He's their DH power hitter.
- 3:55:28You can't hit for power. If you got a broken hand man you
- 3:55:31just can't he tried to play through it.
- 3:55:34They missed diagnosed it. They're in trouble.
- 3:55:37I don't know what Houston does so I wanted to start off with
- 3:55:40arrow earlier two, your team has your two best hitters injured.
- 3:55:46What do you do with this? Trade deadline?
- 3:55:48They're gonna make your trade but Alvarez will be back if I
- 3:55:51were at the Astros. They don't think so.
- 3:55:54I think he might not be back now, he'll be back this season.
- 3:55:57He might be back at the end of the season.
- 3:55:59Save them for the playoffs. Make sure he's 100% healthy and
- 3:56:02have it make a run there. There's quite a few other
- 3:56:06players that are going to be available at the trade deadline,
- 3:56:08that teams are going to want to throw out there.
- 3:56:10They got a good farm system, I think they're a top eight farm
- 3:56:12system. Still they have pieces, they can
- 3:56:15move pieces to bring players in to fill in those spots.
- 3:56:18That's where I go. I'm not gonna worry about
- 3:56:20Alvarez for the regular season. I want, I'm more worried about
- 3:56:24getting him back for the playoffs.
- 3:56:25That's where I would go. If I was the end, Java and Nick,
- 3:56:30you know, a guy's got a bad hand, you're throwing up and in
- 3:56:34or inside corner. All, I'm staying at his hands
- 3:56:38all day, all day, right? Yeah, 100% like especially with
- 3:56:43the guy like that. Anyways, that's what you're
- 3:56:44gonna do because you know, you don't want him to get his arms
- 3:56:46extended but yeah, if you know that I mean it's just you're
- 3:56:50gonna try and pound them in as much as you can.
- 3:56:52Because he's gonna be has its in any way.
- 3:56:54So he's probably gonna try and cheat a little bit because he
- 3:56:56knows that's gonna happen. So you're able to get away with
- 3:56:59a little bit more stuff and that's where it's like, okay
- 3:57:01pound them in pound them in. If you see its front side leak
- 3:57:03and a little bit to try to cheat.
- 3:57:04So he doesn't get jammed. Then you can go away and he
- 3:57:07can't get to because he's trying to cheat to catch the inner
- 3:57:09third. So that's just the game he
- 3:57:11played with him. Speedy, if I ask you who the top
- 3:57:15three players in war were this season as of like four or five
- 3:57:20days ago? You would tell me Aaron judge.
- 3:57:23and you'd probably tell me the big dumper Cal, Raleigh because
- 3:57:26we've talked about on the show before, but the third guy, who
- 3:57:32would you say? I think you're, I guess you're
- 3:57:34leading at the fact that it's painting.
- 3:57:36It is it was you know it's a cumulus that so you probably got
- 3:57:40passed since I know that but when he was hurt when he got
- 3:57:44hurt me you was third in Major League Baseball and War.
- 3:57:49Overall checks ahead of PCA Armstrong ahead of show.
- 3:57:57Hey, ohtani ahead of Bobby Witt, Junior.
- 3:58:02Where did this season come from Speedy?
- 3:58:04Because he started wearing them tight pants.
- 3:58:06I don't know enough about the lady judge that.
- 3:58:12But yeah, it's somebody you expected to take another step in
- 3:58:15breaking news. Smell.
- 3:58:17My ass was the biggest thing with him because he was always a
- 3:58:19well-rounded player. He broke out in the playoffs in
- 3:58:22the year they lost to the Braves in the World Series and then I
- 3:58:25believe won the MVP the next year.
- 3:58:26So like the hitting was always there at Spurs, but never for a
- 3:58:30full season now it's there for a full season with the power.
- 3:58:32That's the thing that concerned me was the lack of lineup depth,
- 3:58:34though. You were talking about at the
- 3:58:35start of the Year where they might win the division.
- 3:58:37Fine. But are they gonna actually be a
- 3:58:39force in the playoffs to get to work?
- 3:58:41But like the Braves, they always been that well-oiled system that
- 3:58:44they get, it's better if they go away from their trends.
- 3:58:47Duty Dodger. Well, we will talk about
- 3:58:52different Dodgers next time. When we come back and go inside
- 3:58:56baseball, well, there's not going to be any OLX tonight
- 3:58:59because it's the show is gone and gone and gone.
- 3:59:02So we'll do analytics next week. I have a pretty good word, a
- 3:59:06pretty good stomper for the dumper himself, Mr. Speedy
- 3:59:11powder always going to come on and play analytics.
- 3:59:13Know, it'll be you. But again, we didn't have any
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