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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the week of January eighteenth, twenty twenty six, and
- 0:06Speaker 1: this is what's on the People's News. Congressman says no
- 0:10Speaker 1: more to a tax by local newspapers. Minnesota's Somali community
- 0:15Speaker 1: is under siege. Your healthcare stories wanted by new healthcare organization.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Celebrate MLK weekend by cultivation and garden crawl in the
- 0:25Speaker 1: Third War. A new documentary highlights one of the first
- 0:30Speaker 1: interracial protests three years before the March on Washington. All
- 0:34Speaker 1: that and more on the People's News. I'm Steve Gallington.
- 0:38Speaker 1: This is the People's News, and the People's News starts now.
- 0:47Speaker 1: US Congressman Al Green is running for the eighteenth congressional seat.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Despite leading the ninth congressional district for twelve years, the
- 0:56Speaker 1: Trump led Republican redistricting map in Texas that's him out
- 1:00Speaker 1: of the ninth district and he is now running for
- 1:03Speaker 1: the eighteenth. Endorsements for newspapers is nothing new, but Green
- 1:07Speaker 1: has stated that the local newspaper, the Houston Chronicle, has
- 1:10Speaker 1: been attacking him because of his age and alleged that
- 1:13Speaker 1: the paper is saying that he is too ill to
- 1:16Speaker 1: take office. He addressed that at his press Conference Texas
- 1:20Speaker 1: who did this.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Yet the Chronicle is laying the blame on two members
- 1:26Speaker 2: of Congress who have records that cannot be matched by most.
- 1:32Speaker 2: They have great records, So that's the Turner was a
- 1:34Speaker 2: great mayor. Jackson Lee was a great congresswoman. Gave us
- 1:38Speaker 2: June teen, So that's the Turner took us through many
- 1:41Speaker 2: atrocities that would be falling our city, hurricanes, floods, freezes.
- 1:48Speaker 3: He was a masterful mayor.
- 1:50Speaker 2: Now, not everybody loves anyone all the time, but we
- 1:53Speaker 2: should not blame them for.
- 1:56Speaker 3: What the governor has done.
- 1:58Speaker 2: And I would say this, this seems to imply that
- 2:03Speaker 2: I will not have the stamina that I may miss votes.
- 2:09Speaker 2: I have a ninety seven point nine percent voting record.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Ninety seven point nine percent. I don't I don't miss votes.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Generally speaking, very few people have one hundred percent in coungless,
- 2:27Speaker 2: but ninety seven.
- 2:28Speaker 3: Point nine is not bad. I would also add.
- 2:33Speaker 2: The implication is that I'm likely to die in office.
- 2:39Speaker 2: If my voice is a little discombobulated, it's because this
- 2:44Speaker 2: is a very painful thing. This is very painful for
- 2:46Speaker 2: the Chronicle to do this to Jackson Lee and Turner.
- 2:51Speaker 3: As well as to me. The Chronicle is.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Running a death campaign against me, prognosticating that I will
- 3:00Speaker 2: die within the foreseeable future.
- 3:03Speaker 3: No one knows for whom the bell were told next.
- 3:09Speaker 3: There are people who are younger than I who didn't
- 3:12Speaker 3: wake up this morning.
- 3:15Speaker 2: I'm gone to transition ceremonies, homegoing ceremonies where parents have
- 3:23Speaker 2: had to lay their children to rest. Why would the
- 3:27Speaker 2: Chronicle embark upon this death campaign?
- 3:31Speaker 3: Why would they do this?
- 3:34Speaker 2: Have they known respect for the families, for the people
- 3:39Speaker 2: who have benefited from these two history makers. I will
- 3:46Speaker 2: not allow the Chronicle to defame and demean these two
- 3:50Speaker 2: great legislators.
- 3:52Speaker 3: So that's the Turner served in the state House almost
- 3:55Speaker 3: a quarter of a cention mayor for eight years. Jack
- 3:59Speaker 3: and Lee, Yes she served for nearly thirty years, but.
- 4:02Speaker 2: She served with dignity, honor, and she did great things.
- 4:09Speaker 2: This piece of work is not worthy of what the
- 4:15Speaker 2: Chronicle is doing to these people. To my friends, Chronicle
- 4:22Speaker 2: should be ashamed. So no, I'm not going to the interview.
- 4:26Speaker 2: I'm not going to do interviews with the Chronicle. I
- 4:32Speaker 2: think that the Chronicle quite frankly needs new leadership. They
- 4:39Speaker 2: need people there who care about the people in this city,
- 4:44Speaker 2: in this area, not the politics. They are master manipulators
- 4:50Speaker 2: and this manipulation is not going to.
- 4:53Speaker 3: Be tolerated by me. So she's a Houston Chronicle. Here's
- 4:57Speaker 3: what I say.
- 5:00Speaker 2: One of your news stories, not the exact one here,
- 5:04Speaker 2: but this is what I say.
- 5:07Speaker 3: No more Houston Chronicle in my house. I'm not gonna
- 5:13Speaker 3: buy it. I'm not gonna encourage others to buy it.
- 5:16Speaker 3: I'm just not going to deal with the Chronicle. I
- 5:19Speaker 3: will have to deal with.
- 5:20Speaker 2: It for defensive purposes, but I don't have to buy
- 5:22Speaker 2: their product.
- 5:25Speaker 3: If I can avoid it. And I may have to
- 5:27Speaker 3: read it at from time to time, but this.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Is a disgrace. What the Chronicle is doing to these
- 5:33Speaker 2: two friends of this city and the state is a disgrace.
- 5:40Speaker 3: And I close. I'm going to tell you this. I'm
- 5:45Speaker 3: gonna be on the ballot March third.
- 5:52Speaker 2: The Chronicle will have their congress person on the ballot,
- 5:57Speaker 2: and the people.
- 5:57Speaker 3: Will have theirs. I will report and the people, not
- 6:02Speaker 3: the Chronicle.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Green is on the ballot for the March third primary
- 6:05Speaker 1: for the US congressional seat in District eighteen. The ongoing
- 6:09Speaker 1: threat of masked unidentified armed thugs, also called ICE agents
- 6:17Speaker 1: in Minnesota are arresting people and accusing them of being
- 6:21Speaker 1: in the country illegally. This highly illegal action has gotten
- 6:25Speaker 1: more scrutiny after the shooting of Renee Good. The adult
- 6:29Speaker 1: seventy nine year old felon dementia Doni announced that he
- 6:34Speaker 1: was authorizing the deportation of Somalis, no matter if they
- 6:38Speaker 1: are nationals or not. Somalis, who are mostly Muslim have
- 6:41Speaker 1: been attacked and many have been the target of the
- 6:44Speaker 1: ICE raids. Protests against these actions and against the ICE
- 6:48Speaker 1: agents have brought out protests across the Twin Cities. The
- 6:52Speaker 1: corrupt and criminal convicted felon in the White House has
- 6:56Speaker 1: hinted that he is going to invoke the Insurrection Act
- 6:59Speaker 1: of eighteen No. Seven that allows the president to deploy
- 7:02Speaker 1: military forces inside the US to suppress insurrection. CARE the
- 7:07Speaker 1: Council on American Islamic Relations have documented the number of
- 7:11Speaker 1: attacks on the community by ICE. Suliman Aiden is deputy
- 7:15Speaker 1: director of CARE Minnesota.
- 7:18Speaker 4: You know, it's it's insane. You know this is this
- 7:21Speaker 4: is not a first rodeo with you know, President Donald Trump.
- 7:24Speaker 5: Uh.
- 7:24Speaker 4: He he has since his first term been calling Somali's
- 7:28Speaker 4: uh cot coroaches, you know, garbage, everything under the sun
- 7:31Speaker 4: that's foul. Uh and uh it's always been uh followed.
- 7:35Speaker 4: Rus should say, uh, we we haven't followed.
- 7:39Speaker 5: Uh.
- 7:39Speaker 4: After he uh does his attacks on Elhan Omar, our congresswoman. Uh,
- 7:43Speaker 4: every time he attacks ilhand, he always views attacks on
- 7:46Speaker 4: the smaller community of Minnesota. This is the first time,
- 7:49Speaker 4: though documented, uh that he has uh you know, made
- 7:53Speaker 4: true to his attacks or made true to his promises
- 7:56Speaker 4: of threats.
- 7:56Speaker 5: Uh.
- 7:57Speaker 4: You know in Minnesota, it is true that ICE is
- 8:00Speaker 4: targeting all all immigrants Asian, you know, especially Corinne Cambodian,
- 8:06Speaker 4: the Hispanic community here in Minnesota, you know, you know,
- 8:10Speaker 4: the the broader African and East African community of Minnesota. However,
- 8:13Speaker 4: there's only one community that he has explicitly and continues
- 8:15Speaker 4: to explicitly name, which is the Somali community. Now, when
- 8:18Speaker 4: you have the most powerful man in the free world,
- 8:20Speaker 4: which is which is Donald J. Trump, and then you
- 8:23Speaker 4: have the most powerful man that controls social consciousness or
- 8:27Speaker 4: the social narrative, which is Elon Musk, the owner of
- 8:30Speaker 4: x or Twitter and who has his thumb on the
- 8:34Speaker 4: algorithm pushing the hate that Donald Trump is feeling.
- 8:37Speaker 5: You can't win.
- 8:38Speaker 4: It doesn't matter as many, you know, the positive stories
- 8:41Speaker 4: that we're putting out there, or the good the organizing,
- 8:44Speaker 4: the advocacy that we're doing. You know, citizens continue to
- 8:47Speaker 4: be detained Minnesota houses, you know Hostsninety five percent of
- 8:52Speaker 4: Somali's here in Minnesota or either permanent residents or citizens.
- 8:55Speaker 4: They've been in this country since as early as nineteen
- 8:57Speaker 4: ninety three. Fifty one percent of them are born are
- 9:01Speaker 4: born here. Uh so they're born citizens, not even nationalized.
- 9:06Speaker 6: And you've got to remember why why Somalis are here
- 9:08Speaker 6: in the first place, because the stabilization of the country itself.
- 9:12Speaker 4: In absolutely How are they?
- 9:15Speaker 6: How is how is it that the prison is talking
- 9:18Speaker 6: now about using the insurrectional law to come into Minneapolis
- 9:22Speaker 6: to quail protesting.
- 9:24Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, it's it's you know, I was
- 9:29Speaker 4: at a I was at a Senate hearing this morning
- 9:32Speaker 4: at the Minnesota Sidate built Senate building where h we
- 9:35Speaker 4: are alongside uh other witness experts were testifying on what
- 9:40Speaker 4: we were actually seeing on the ground. Uh And someone
- 9:43Speaker 4: asked that very question and we told them that this
- 9:45Speaker 4: is the the most clear threat that Donald has made
- 9:49Speaker 4: to date uh and you know tomorrow uh Saturday here
- 9:54Speaker 4: in Minneapolis, Jake Lang Uh, the Islamophobe, the dnfol with
- 9:57Speaker 4: a racist has about and has champ has come to
- 10:01Speaker 4: march in Minneapolis from Minneapolis City Hall to Seater Overside.
- 10:04Speaker 4: Theater Overside is the historic neighborhood that houses the largest
- 10:08Speaker 4: population of our community of Somalis uh in Minnesota. And
- 10:12Speaker 4: if if anyone has followed what he's done in cities past,
- 10:15Speaker 4: you know, he comes. He he he instigates, and he
- 10:17Speaker 4: antagonizing and it's popused to get a reaction uh by
- 10:20Speaker 4: Vernon and you know, bringing you know, the severed heads
- 10:23Speaker 4: of pigs uh to to try to you know, you know,
- 10:27Speaker 4: you know antagonize in the lists that our response uh
- 10:29Speaker 4: from people.
- 10:30Speaker 6: Uh.
- 10:30Speaker 4: But we in Minneapolis are organized. You know, we are ready.
- 10:33Speaker 4: We are ready for him and and and we will overcome.
- 10:37Speaker 5: What are you gonna?
- 10:38Speaker 7: What are you gonna?
- 10:39Speaker 6: What are you gonna do about the deportations that they
- 10:41Speaker 6: already have in place?
- 10:43Speaker 4: Yeah, so are uh the there's a journeys here's to
- 10:46Speaker 4: things that you know that support here in Minnesota have
- 10:50Speaker 4: been successful in you know, filing a havest which is
- 10:52Speaker 4: that stay, uh deportation. So we have individuals that are
- 10:56Speaker 4: either here, are already back or on their way back
- 11:00Speaker 4: from places like Texas. And however, you know, there are
- 11:04Speaker 4: those that you know, we don't know, right. We found
- 11:08Speaker 4: out yesterday. I found out yesterday of a story of
- 11:11Speaker 4: a young man that was deported or detained on on
- 11:15Speaker 4: ruptive the deportation, has been staying in an attention facility
- 11:19Speaker 4: in Texas since twenty twenty four, right, and this is
- 11:23Speaker 4: a permanent legal residence. And and and you know our
- 11:27Speaker 4: you know, training ceram and of sudamer student teams. I've
- 11:29Speaker 4: been trying like heck to try to bring him home.
- 11:32Speaker 4: But this is just you know, one story of many,
- 11:34Speaker 4: you know, of Somali's Hispanics, of of those that are
- 11:39Speaker 4: of South Asia and Southeast Asian descent being detained and
- 11:43Speaker 4: put on a plane and you know, brought to places
- 11:46Speaker 4: like Texas, you know, twelve hours later with no allowed
- 11:50Speaker 4: phone calls to their families until they actually get to
- 11:52Speaker 4: that facility.
- 11:54Speaker 6: Yeah, because a lot of these people that are being
- 11:56Speaker 6: deported have never been to the countries that they're being
- 11:58Speaker 6: deported too. So of course another question is what happens
- 12:02Speaker 6: to when they do land in these.
- 12:03Speaker 8: Places, you know, you know it's it's I think the
- 12:08Speaker 8: biggest thing that I can you know, the best thing
- 12:10Speaker 8: that I can say, based on you know, what we've
- 12:11Speaker 8: been hearing on the ground, or even seeking.
- 12:13Speaker 4: For myself as a naturalized citizen. Myself, I came to
- 12:15Speaker 4: this country when I was three months old, three months
- 12:17Speaker 4: old legally. My family was, uh, you know, a refugee.
- 12:21Speaker 4: I was sponsored by Lutheran church here in Minnesota.
- 12:24Speaker 7: Uh.
- 12:24Speaker 4: It would be fear, it would be it would be sadness,
- 12:26Speaker 4: it would be confusion, you know. I take me, for example,
- 12:30Speaker 4: if I was taking back to Somalia, Uh, you know,
- 12:32Speaker 4: a place that I had not seen, uh since I
- 12:34Speaker 4: was you know, an infant, barely having my eyes open,
- 12:37Speaker 4: I will not know what to do. My family's here,
- 12:39Speaker 4: my home is here, my people are here.
- 12:41Speaker 3: You're already talking to you.
- 12:42Speaker 6: You are a naturalized citizen. But what this administration is
- 12:46Speaker 6: talking about doing is even taking that away because you
- 12:49Speaker 6: have somebody Smiley's parents.
- 12:52Speaker 5: Yeah, when they're talking.
- 12:53Speaker 6: About the port, they talking about the way of deporting
- 12:56Speaker 6: you anyway. So does that how much fear is.
- 12:58Speaker 5: That in you?
- 13:00Speaker 4: I'll say this, I do not leave home without my passport.
- 13:03Speaker 4: I do not leave home without the phone number of
- 13:06Speaker 4: of of of the immigration attorney that you work with memorized.
- 13:09Speaker 4: I do not leave home without you know, emergency contacts memories.
- 13:13Speaker 4: And I'm not and I'm not.
- 13:14Speaker 3: The only one.
- 13:14Speaker 4: The vast majority of the staff at the Council on
- 13:17Speaker 4: Americans Southerner Relations, our Minnesota Chapter, our Somali and our
- 13:20Speaker 4: Somali citizens, and they too are following the same protocol.
- 13:23Speaker 4: You know, we could be next stopped at a at
- 13:25Speaker 4: a at a you know, at a traffic stop, right
- 13:28Speaker 4: at at at a rally, you know, being a legal observer,
- 13:31Speaker 4: which is legal to observe ice doing their heinous acts.
- 13:34Speaker 4: You know, it could happen at any time anywhere.
- 13:38Speaker 6: And also I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking about you say,
- 13:44Speaker 6: you have, you know, legal rights. They're they're not They're
- 13:47Speaker 6: arresting people and they're looking at they're looking at you
- 13:50Speaker 6: to prove your citizenship even after you at the courts
- 13:53Speaker 6: and we're in jails, not not rap there.
- 13:55Speaker 5: On the spot.
- 13:57Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's like it's a detained first, ask
- 14:00Speaker 4: outions later, right.
- 14:01Speaker 5: Uh.
- 14:01Speaker 4: And and from the stories that we've heard on the ground, uh,
- 14:04Speaker 4: even of those who testify today uh at the at
- 14:07Speaker 4: the congressional hearing that sorry, at the Senate UH at
- 14:10Speaker 4: the Senate building here hosted by Kungswoman Ilehana Omar. There's
- 14:13Speaker 4: a woman who is detained you know, uh, you know,
- 14:16Speaker 4: white female American citizen, uh who who is detained uh
- 14:21Speaker 4: for for upwards of nine hours. You know it wasn't
- 14:24Speaker 4: until alfter those nine hours that they just let her go,
- 14:27Speaker 4: despite her saying that I have my Social Trade number,
- 14:29Speaker 4: I have Rember, I have a picture of my passport.
- 14:31Speaker 4: They didn't care even while she was yet to the
- 14:34Speaker 4: teams at the intention civility, gyman, the affletis what what is?
- 14:38Speaker 3: What is it?
- 14:38Speaker 5: Was?
- 14:39Speaker 6: I know, I know the the governor and other people
- 14:42Speaker 6: in the state have been the mayor have been stating
- 14:44Speaker 6: how they want ice out. But on the national level.
- 14:47Speaker 5: How is it? How is it?
- 14:49Speaker 6: How is it?
- 14:49Speaker 2: What are you?
- 14:50Speaker 5: What are you hearing?
- 14:50Speaker 3: Because this is just if it's.
- 14:52Speaker 6: Happening to you now, it can happen people in other
- 14:55Speaker 6: states also.
- 14:57Speaker 4: Exactly that that that last part that you said, it
- 14:59Speaker 4: coul happen at any state in the country at any moment,
- 15:03Speaker 4: our governor, in our in our mayor a both of
- 15:06Speaker 4: both cities. UH. Mayor her and Mayor Jacob Fry, both
- 15:09Speaker 4: of Saint Paul in Minneapolis. Governor Walls have been courageous
- 15:13Speaker 4: in speaking out uh explicitly, you know, wanting ice out
- 15:19Speaker 4: of our cities and doing you know, damn here what
- 15:21Speaker 4: they all that they can uh legally uh to get
- 15:24Speaker 4: ice out. UH are are our attorney general H has
- 15:28Speaker 4: found a lawsuit against the Department of a whole land
- 15:31Speaker 4: Security and UH and we are hopeful. However, we are
- 15:34Speaker 4: still holding our breast because we are bracing ourselves. You know,
- 15:38Speaker 4: it's it's Minnesota's Minnesota's cold. It's it's currently eleven degrees
- 15:42Speaker 4: uh here in here in Minneapolis, and it's and it's
- 15:44Speaker 4: set to be one degree in Minneapolis tomorrow when Jacob,
- 15:47Speaker 4: when Jake Laying uh makes his way to his what
- 15:50Speaker 4: he calls his crusade against Minneapolis, which we will be
- 15:53Speaker 4: standing against.
- 15:54Speaker 3: Uh.
- 15:54Speaker 4: You know what everyone, those of the legislature of city
- 15:58Speaker 4: government in our in our in the also Governor UH
- 16:01Speaker 4: doing everything that we can uh to to stop ice here.
- 16:04Speaker 4: But just this week and a thousand more ice agents
- 16:07Speaker 4: have been deployed.
- 16:08Speaker 6: What are you doing about this? This guy's coming here
- 16:11Speaker 6: and agitating, and knowing that he's agitating, is he getting
- 16:16Speaker 6: his supporters that's coming in also? And how much treat
- 16:18Speaker 6: is that with the police departments uh work having to
- 16:22Speaker 6: treat having to do double work.
- 16:23Speaker 5: So to speak.
- 16:24Speaker 4: Yeah, so the police have actually been briefed. Uh, you know,
- 16:27Speaker 4: Minneapolis is getting supported from police departments across uh the
- 16:30Speaker 4: metro uh area here in Minneapolis to come in and
- 16:34Speaker 4: pull in. Jake Laying has been given his permits uh
- 16:38Speaker 4: to protest and to rally uh here in Minneapolis. From
- 16:42Speaker 4: what we can see on social media that he has
- 16:45Speaker 4: and for what he has said, uh that he has
- 16:47Speaker 4: garnered support uh from followers across the country, uh to
- 16:51Speaker 4: attend his quote unquote crusade on Minneapolis.
- 16:54Speaker 6: Are there a lot of people there are a lot
- 16:56Speaker 6: of his supporters there in Minneapolis?
- 16:59Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he he He did a protest earlier
- 17:01Speaker 4: this week at the federal detention facility here in Minneapolis,
- 17:06Speaker 4: and they're quite a quite quite a bunch of them
- 17:08Speaker 4: were there. You know, members of the Proud Boys were there.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Uh you know and uh uh and that was that
- 17:14Speaker 4: was earlier was Monday, right Like now you can only
- 17:16Speaker 4: imagine or Wednesday should say rather now you can only
- 17:18Speaker 4: imagine uh what Saturday is going to be now that
- 17:21Speaker 4: you've have you've had more time. And this has been
- 17:23Speaker 4: a date uh that has been set for weeks, right,
- 17:26Speaker 4: So this has taken you know, weeks and weeks and
- 17:28Speaker 4: weeks of plying. Uh and and officially shows itself of
- 17:31Speaker 4: how many people showed up at the different cities in
- 17:34Speaker 4: which he's gone uh on his uh you know, bigot crusade,
- 17:38Speaker 4: his racism, his racist crusade is a sign of football crusade,
- 17:41Speaker 4: like he has garnered the crowd.
- 17:42Speaker 5: Uh.
- 17:43Speaker 4: You know, the only thing we can be hopeful is
- 17:44Speaker 4: that the cold weather is on our side and they
- 17:46Speaker 4: are not able to hang out too long. We're in Minnesota,
- 17:49Speaker 4: We're used, we're used to the cold, but he isn't.
- 17:52Speaker 6: Are there are there Minnesota residents that's coming to support him?
- 17:56Speaker 3: You know.
- 17:57Speaker 4: After the twenty sixteen election of the first election of
- 18:01Speaker 4: Donald Trump, we have we we have seen uh a
- 18:04Speaker 4: rather loud support for Donald Trump across uh, you know,
- 18:09Speaker 4: the States power. It's nothing compared to those that are
- 18:12Speaker 4: against him. And those that are for peace and those
- 18:15Speaker 4: are for equality and for justice. Uh, they they overpower
- 18:18Speaker 4: them sex None have.
- 18:20Speaker 6: You been seeing I know here in Texas we've we've
- 18:22Speaker 6: been then across the country we've had attacks on uh,
- 18:25Speaker 6: the Muslim community and also in the communities. Have you
- 18:29Speaker 6: seen any any type of attacks menalismic on on those communities.
- 18:34Speaker 4: Even yes, well, I'll say ever since ice has been
- 18:39Speaker 4: deployed in Jake Playing and you know Nick Shirley have
- 18:42Speaker 4: have gone on their their tirade. Thankfully, no Moss has
- 18:45Speaker 4: been has been attacked. However, there has been you know,
- 18:48Speaker 4: a dozens of death threats that have been given to them.
- 18:52Speaker 4: Just today, one of the universities in Minneapolis, Augsburg University,
- 18:55Speaker 4: that is nestled right in the Seed of Riverside community,
- 18:58Speaker 4: which is the UH, houses the majority of a small
- 19:01Speaker 4: stunity here in Minnesota. UH, they received a bomb threat UH.
- 19:05Speaker 4: And then the and then the person who commit submitted
- 19:07Speaker 4: the threats said that UH they were targeting refugees UH
- 19:10Speaker 4: in the area. Myself, as the deputy EXECUS director of
- 19:14Speaker 4: Career Minnesota, I have received numerous death threats to my
- 19:18Speaker 4: personal cells, to my work sell my address has been docked.
- 19:21Speaker 4: And this is something that has that happened at Caer Minnesota.
- 19:25Speaker 4: Myself and our death director are not you know prone,
- 19:26Speaker 4: I mean, are not you know, this is not foreign
- 19:28Speaker 4: to us. However, our congress, our Congressman elhan Omar, it's
- 19:32Speaker 4: gotten so bad for her that she's had to hire
- 19:34Speaker 4: a private security for her and her family and her
- 19:36Speaker 4: children because of how real these threats got.
- 19:40Speaker 5: Right.
- 19:40Speaker 4: So the city, the cities on edge tomorrow, mosque not
- 19:44Speaker 4: the mosques have you know, have been in order to
- 19:46Speaker 4: protect themselves right to have to have uh uh patrollers
- 19:52Speaker 4: uh and if they can and if they have a
- 19:53Speaker 4: security police will be uh you know, uh providing extra
- 19:57Speaker 4: uh security in these areas. We don't want the worst
- 20:01Speaker 4: to happen, but were better to be safe and sorry, Unfortunately.
- 20:06Speaker 1: That was Suliman Aiden, deputy executive director of CAER Minnesota.
- 20:11Speaker 1: Ain't No Back to a Merrygo Round is a new
- 20:14Speaker 1: documentary that speaks to the story of five Howard University
- 20:19Speaker 1: students who sat on a segregated Maryland carousel in nineteen sixty.
- 20:24Speaker 1: Their arrests made headlines, and as the Jewish community near
- 20:28Speaker 1: Glen Echo Amusement Park joined the protest, a history making
- 20:32Speaker 1: interracial demonstration was born. The pickets attracted Nazis, congressman, and
- 20:38Speaker 1: a press avalanche. Picketing together led to partying together. Union
- 20:42Speaker 1: organizers mentored student activists, and ten nineteen sixty one freedom
- 20:47Speaker 1: writers emerged, including Stokely Carmichael. This was three years before
- 20:52Speaker 1: the March on Washington. We talked to Emmy Award winning
- 20:55Speaker 1: director Elana Trouckman and the four living protesters who rescued
- 20:59Speaker 1: this untold story revealing the price and the power of
- 21:04Speaker 1: heeding the impulse to activism.
- 21:06Speaker 9: Tell us about the documentary for people that don't know.
- 21:09Speaker 9: There's talk about how people can watch it.
- 21:12Speaker 10: Interesting documentary. Thanks then, thank you for Stunn. That's a
- 21:16Speaker 10: great attitude of I love that the film is about
- 21:19Speaker 10: the first time that a white community joined a black
- 21:22Speaker 10: civil rights protest, at least as far as as far
- 21:25Speaker 10: as we know, and that was in nineteen sixty outside Washington,
- 21:28Speaker 10: d C. At an amusement park called Glen Echo Amusement Park.
- 21:32Speaker 10: And what made this so interesting and unprecedented is that
- 21:37Speaker 10: up until that point, there had been individual white people
- 21:40Speaker 10: who would join a sit in or you know, a
- 21:43Speaker 10: picket line, but in this case, an entire community joined
- 21:47Speaker 10: in mass and it was an interesting kind of perfect
- 21:52Speaker 10: storm of events, Howard University students were galvanized like so
- 21:57Speaker 10: many HBCUs Greensboro in February of nineteen sixty and that
- 22:02Speaker 10: sit in sort of with a wake up call all
- 22:07Speaker 10: over all over the HBCUs and Howard University heard the
- 22:10Speaker 10: call and started a group called the Non Violent Action Group.
- 22:14Speaker 10: And they first went to lunch counters in Arlington, Virginia,
- 22:18Speaker 10: and were shocked how in just two weeks they were
- 22:22Speaker 10: able to get all of Arlington lunch counters to integrate.
- 22:25Speaker 10: And so then they thought, well, this is amazing. What
- 22:26Speaker 10: can we do next? And here was this amusement park
- 22:29Speaker 10: that was so conspicuous. It was really a storied recreation destination.
- 22:36Speaker 10: Pretty much even today, if you talk to anyone who
- 22:39Speaker 10: grew up in the DC area and is seventy years
- 22:41Speaker 10: old or older, they can sing the radio jingle because
- 22:44Speaker 10: it was so pervasive. And this amusement park was white
- 22:48Speaker 10: only since the turn of the century. And so they
- 22:51Speaker 10: showed up on that first day to protest, and they
- 22:55Speaker 10: were surprised to be met by this community of white
- 22:59Speaker 10: peace people who were mostly Jewish, who was called Bannockburn.
- 23:03Speaker 10: And these were sort of a unique community in that
- 23:06Speaker 10: they were very affiliated with the federal government. They were
- 23:10Speaker 10: labor organizers, they were civil servants, and they themselves had
- 23:14Speaker 10: built their community because there had been so many housing
- 23:17Speaker 10: covenants against selling to Jews in Washington. So it was
- 23:21Speaker 10: already a progressive, liberal group of people that were primed,
- 23:25Speaker 10: i would say, for joining in.
- 23:28Speaker 7: And that's what happened.
- 23:29Speaker 10: And they thought it would be short, and in fact
- 23:31Speaker 10: it took ten weeks the whole summer, and that when
- 23:33Speaker 10: the part closed, they still were not capitulating. And I
- 23:40Speaker 10: guess I'm giving a lot of way here, but it
- 23:41Speaker 10: was the first time that the American Nazi Party came
- 23:44Speaker 10: out to counter protests because and they were so provoked
- 23:48Speaker 10: at the thought of an integrated amusement park, specifically of
- 23:51Speaker 10: course an integrated swimming.
- 23:53Speaker 6: Pool, and that struck a chord with the Jewish community
- 23:57Speaker 6: that came out to protests.
- 23:59Speaker 9: When you have the American Nazi Party, that's right.
- 24:03Speaker 10: And remember this is only fifteen years after the liberation
- 24:06Speaker 10: of Aushwitz, so it's so World War two is so recent,
- 24:10Speaker 10: and you know, had how shocking that there are you know,
- 24:13Speaker 10: there's an American Nazi Party and that these people are
- 24:16Speaker 10: these people are coming out to counter protest. So, yeah,
- 24:20Speaker 10: it's a super super interesting moment in time. And I think,
- 24:26Speaker 10: I think, to me, what was so interesting about it
- 24:29Speaker 10: is I learned about the civil rights movement in school,
- 24:32Speaker 10: and I learned about Martin Luther King and John Lewis,
- 24:35Speaker 10: and I learned about in Hebrew school. I learned about
- 24:38Speaker 10: Martin Luther King's friendship with Abraham Joshua Heschel. But that's
- 24:42Speaker 10: pretty much where my name recognition of civil rights hero
- 24:47Speaker 10: starts and ends, or it did. I didn't really have
- 24:50Speaker 10: any sense that there were thousands of people all over
- 24:53Speaker 10: the country who were just regular people, you know, who
- 24:56Speaker 10: didn't go to the bridge at Selma, and they just
- 25:00Speaker 10: give up in their own communities, at their own segregated library,
- 25:04Speaker 10: movie theater, swimming pool, lunch counter, or amusement park. And
- 25:10Speaker 10: those people were the foot soldiers of the civil rights movement.
- 25:13Speaker 10: I mean, of course we needed to have our incredible leaders,
- 25:16Speaker 10: but you also need to have foot soldiers. And I
- 25:18Speaker 10: didn't know anything about any of these people. I didn't
- 25:20Speaker 10: know any of their names. And that was the real
- 25:22Speaker 10: revelation for me working on the film.
- 25:24Speaker 6: Yeah, how did you find out about this?
- 25:27Speaker 9: In itself?
- 25:27Speaker 10: A mean well, so this amusement park closed in nineteen
- 25:31Speaker 10: sixty eight, and in nineteen seventy one it became a
- 25:34Speaker 10: National park.
- 25:35Speaker 7: And the National Park was there when I was growing up.
- 25:38Speaker 10: I grew up about twenty minutes away. And it's a
- 25:41Speaker 10: really interesting place because it retained a lot of the
- 25:44Speaker 10: amusement park infrastructure, and it has the sense of like
- 25:47Speaker 10: a real, like nineteen twenties kind of amazement park because
- 25:51Speaker 10: the fonts are still there. Those are deco fonts, and
- 25:54Speaker 10: that really particular color palette of red, yellow and blue
- 25:57Speaker 10: that's so our deco. And when I was a kid,
- 26:02Speaker 10: the roller coaster tracks were still there, and actually even
- 26:06Speaker 10: to the day, the carousel runs and you can see,
- 26:09Speaker 10: you know, there's a bumper car pavilion and a cuddle
- 26:11Speaker 10: up and popcorn and can you walk around the park
- 26:15Speaker 10: and you have this sense of like this was a
- 26:19Speaker 10: thrilling wonderland of you know, Washington, Americana. And there used
- 26:25Speaker 10: to be pictures all over that the National Park Sures
- 26:27Speaker 10: had put up of the park in its heyday, and
- 26:30Speaker 10: I loved staring at those pictures. The park was also
- 26:33Speaker 10: it was kind of an arts colony, and it was
- 26:35Speaker 10: a place that I went for summer camp and the DC.
- 26:38Speaker 7: Folk Festival is still there actually, and there.
- 26:41Speaker 10: Was a big Santish ballroom that to this day has
- 26:45Speaker 10: ballroom dancing and contra dancing and swing dancing, and so
- 26:47Speaker 10: it's just like it's a really happening place. And I
- 26:50Speaker 10: loved staring at those pictures and imagining being part of that.
- 26:55Speaker 7: That moment in time. And about twenty years after.
- 26:59Speaker 10: I grew up and moved away and went back to
- 27:01Speaker 10: the park with my then fiance now husband because I
- 27:05Speaker 10: wanted us to consider it as a wedding venue. And
- 27:08Speaker 10: we met a park ranger who told us the story
- 27:12Speaker 10: about the park and how it got integrated. And I
- 27:15Speaker 10: was like, first just completely stopped on that that the
- 27:18Speaker 10: park needed to be integrated, because in all of my
- 27:22Speaker 10: fantasizing about it, it had never once occurred to me
- 27:26Speaker 10: that it was a white's only park. I just it
- 27:28Speaker 10: just didn't enter my consciousness. You know, I grew up
- 27:30Speaker 10: in an integrated county, and you know, I had been
- 27:34Speaker 10: looking at those pictures and never noticing that I was
- 27:37Speaker 10: only looking at pictures of white people having fun. And
- 27:40Speaker 10: that was so shameful to me that I that I
- 27:43Speaker 10: didn't know this that I'd been looking at those pictures
- 27:45Speaker 10: and I hadn't put it together, and it just, you know,
- 27:49Speaker 10: it felt like it was like discovering a dirty secret
- 27:51Speaker 10: about someone in my family, you know. I just I
- 27:53Speaker 10: loved this park so much, and yet it was like
- 27:55Speaker 10: a It was such a it was such a sight
- 27:57Speaker 10: of cruelty for some people. Maybe it was wonderland for
- 27:59Speaker 10: some people, but for other people was exactly the opposite.
- 28:02Speaker 7: And so I really felt I need to learn a
- 28:05Speaker 7: lot more.
- 28:06Speaker 10: And as I started researching and digging up everything I
- 28:09Speaker 10: could find about this protest, specifically, the people in Bannockburn
- 28:15Speaker 10: felt very familiar because my father had been a Jewish
- 28:17Speaker 10: labor organizer, and you know, reading their newsletters and their
- 28:22Speaker 10: communication between each others just felt very familiar. And so
- 28:26Speaker 10: a couple of years later, my dad passed away and
- 28:29Speaker 10: I started working on the film in earnest, and I
- 28:31Speaker 10: kind of felt like I was continuing the conversation.
- 28:34Speaker 4: With my dad.
- 28:36Speaker 6: One thing I noticed about it, and it continues now,
- 28:39Speaker 6: is the some of the people that were in the
- 28:42Speaker 6: activists that were in the documentary, what they had to
- 28:46Speaker 6: struggle with after the integrating, integrating the of the of
- 28:52Speaker 6: the part and I know one gentleman. Years later he
- 28:56Speaker 6: joined the Freedom Writers and was arrested and got a divorce,
- 29:01Speaker 6: getting back when we got a jail, he got.
- 29:03Speaker 9: A divorce and his wife, uh tried to tried to
- 29:07Speaker 9: get back with the kids and and talk to the kids,
- 29:10Speaker 9: and they weren't interested in any of his any of
- 29:13Speaker 9: his work that he did. And that's struck that's struck
- 29:16Speaker 9: a chord uh with me, because I was like, wow.
- 29:20Speaker 5: Kids, see why kids aren't getting this me anymore? What
- 29:24Speaker 5: happened with.
- 29:25Speaker 10: Him with the gentleman that yeah, yeah, you're talking about
- 29:29Speaker 10: Dion Diamond. Yeah, it's look, you know, I think I
- 29:33Speaker 10: think you're pointing to something also that's really important that
- 29:35Speaker 10: we just never learned about, right, We like learn about
- 29:37Speaker 10: the heroic act, and it's like the act happened and
- 29:40Speaker 10: maybe there was triumph or not, and that's the end,
- 29:42Speaker 10: and we don't really pay attention to what happened as
- 29:46Speaker 10: a consequence and the way all these events played out
- 29:48Speaker 10: and the price that people paid. And yeah, so Dion
- 29:52Speaker 10: is an example of somebody who gave his his certainly
- 29:56Speaker 10: his young life.
- 29:57Speaker 7: To the movement.
- 29:58Speaker 10: And he was married and he was jailed for actually
- 30:03Speaker 10: specific I think that jail time was specifically for quote
- 30:06Speaker 10: inspiring anarchy something like that on a campus in Macomb, Mississippi.
- 30:13Speaker 10: And while he was in jail, his wife divorced him,
- 30:16Speaker 10: and he didn't have much relationship with his with his son,
- 30:20Speaker 10: and and you know, obviously there are all kinds of
- 30:24Speaker 10: things that are that are part of that that I
- 30:27Speaker 10: can't speak to, and I certainly wouldn't wouldn't want to
- 30:29Speaker 10: speak to her her experience or the son's experience.
- 30:32Speaker 7: But we think of Diane as a hero, and he is.
- 30:35Speaker 7: He is a hero, but.
- 30:37Speaker 10: You know, down deep in the personal he has a
- 30:41Speaker 10: he has a rift, and his sons and his grandsons
- 30:45Speaker 10: don't necessarily look at him the same way that we
- 30:48Speaker 10: look at him. And ten actually of the nineteen sixty
- 30:52Speaker 10: one freedom riders were people who had been incubated essentially
- 30:56Speaker 10: on that picket line and wouldn't have gone to the
- 30:59Speaker 10: freedom rides it hadn't been for the way that they
- 31:01Speaker 10: got involved at Glennecho. And you also we also see
- 31:05Speaker 10: the life of someone else, a Jewish woman named Helene Wilson, who,
- 31:09Speaker 10: as a result of her experience going on the freedom ride,
- 31:12Speaker 10: she went to parchs in prison and had treatment that
- 31:17Speaker 10: I don't even think I fully understand the ascent, the
- 31:22Speaker 10: extent of.
- 31:25Speaker 7: What was probably.
- 31:28Speaker 10: It was probably sexual and and she was never the
- 31:32Speaker 10: same afterwards. And also her marriage also resulted in the divorce.
- 31:36Speaker 10: And you know, I think it's really important that we
- 31:39Speaker 10: take in the whole story. You know that it wasn't
- 31:41Speaker 10: just this one moment, but it's the whole story of
- 31:43Speaker 10: this life and prices that we pay.
- 31:45Speaker 7: And also on the flip side, you know, you meet Hank.
- 31:48Speaker 10: Thomas who, because of his involvement, he kind of met
- 31:52Speaker 10: the right people at the right time and with his
- 31:54Speaker 10: own courage and wisdom and skill managed to become incredibly sick,
- 32:00Speaker 10: well in the world and affluent. And so you know,
- 32:03Speaker 10: his the flip side, his is a different kind of
- 32:05Speaker 10: success story.
- 32:07Speaker 5: How hard is it to try?
- 32:09Speaker 9: I know in Texas it's you know, in the schools
- 32:12Speaker 9: we have in the university have ad I banning different
- 32:17Speaker 9: types of diversity.
- 32:18Speaker 5: And and and and.
- 32:21Speaker 9: Movies, documentaries and books that's being shown.
- 32:24Speaker 5: How is it? How hard is it now to.
- 32:26Speaker 9: Try to get this word out, especially to the minority
- 32:29Speaker 9: of community, because a lot of these stories are disappearing
- 32:33Speaker 9: and and I've even talked about, so how hard is
- 32:37Speaker 9: it for you to try to get these stories out
- 32:39Speaker 9: and get actually get an audience too, because it seems
- 32:42Speaker 9: like it's harder and harder to get kids interested in
- 32:46Speaker 9: what's going on, especially when a lot of the stuff
- 32:48Speaker 9: that went on then can happen again.
- 32:52Speaker 6: With loss is going on, that loss is going on now.
- 32:55Speaker 10: Yeah, well you know, And honestly, like I just want
- 32:57Speaker 10: to point out, that's very brave of you even to
- 32:59Speaker 10: even to say it, right, I mean, which is isn't
- 33:01Speaker 10: that crazy that I have that that's true? But it's
- 33:03Speaker 10: a brave thing for you to point that out. It's
- 33:05Speaker 10: not lost on me that I've got a film that
- 33:08Speaker 10: is about restoring lost history at a time when even
- 33:11Speaker 10: history that is not lost is being erased.
- 33:13Speaker 7: Right. What I'm finding is that.
- 33:20Speaker 10: School districts that are not inhibited in these ways are
- 33:24Speaker 10: really excited about the film and eager for the film,
- 33:27Speaker 10: and they're bringing the film into their schools. And we
- 33:29Speaker 10: have we have an educational version of the film that's shorter,
- 33:32Speaker 10: and a fantastic teacher's guide that's written to that educational version,
- 33:37Speaker 10: and people can contact us and explain how to get
- 33:41Speaker 10: it and private schools obviously have no problem about getting
- 33:44Speaker 10: the film. I can't speak to the particular limitations on
- 33:49Speaker 10: different school districts, but one of the things that we're doing,
- 33:52Speaker 10: for example, is a national streaming event, so school or
- 33:56Speaker 10: no school, people in their homes can stream the film
- 34:01Speaker 10: only for this period of time January fifteenth to the
- 34:05Speaker 10: twentieth for Martin Luther King Day, and then on the
- 34:07Speaker 10: nineteenth I'm going to do a live zoom QA for
- 34:11Speaker 10: anybody with some of the protesters. So yeah, I mean,
- 34:16Speaker 10: I don't know, it remains to be seen what will
- 34:18Speaker 10: happen like on a national level, but I think on
- 34:21Speaker 10: a local level, just the same way that this story
- 34:23Speaker 10: is local, school by school, community by community, we're bringing
- 34:26Speaker 10: the film in Well let me first let me first
- 34:28Speaker 10: say that something I'm super excited about is in Houston,
- 34:33Speaker 10: the Texas Southern and the Jewish Federation of Greater Houston
- 34:39Speaker 10: are putting on an event together on February fourth, And
- 34:43Speaker 10: actually you go to the website, which is eight no
- 34:46Speaker 10: Back dot com on the screenings page, you'll see it
- 34:48Speaker 10: and it's a.
- 34:49Speaker 7: Free event and I'm really I'm going to be there.
- 34:52Speaker 10: And also doctor Max Miller, who is the pastor of
- 34:54Speaker 10: Mount Tebron Missionary Baptist Church, and Rabbi Stephen Gross from
- 34:58Speaker 10: Houston Congregation.
- 34:59Speaker 7: For Reformed U.
- 35:00Speaker 10: The three of us are speaking on a panel afterwards
- 35:03Speaker 10: about this very topic, and I'm thrilled. I mean, this
- 35:08Speaker 10: is kind of the whole point, right is to create
- 35:11Speaker 10: these dialogues.
- 35:12Speaker 1: Ain'tno back. Dot com is where you can see the
- 35:14Speaker 1: film online. Also February fourth, the film will be screened
- 35:18Speaker 1: at Texas Southern University at six thirty pm and there
- 35:22Speaker 1: will be a Q and A with the filmmaker Elana TrackMan,
- 35:25Speaker 1: Rabbi Stephen M. Gross the Houston Congregation for Reform Judaism,
- 35:30Speaker 1: and doctor Max A. Miller Jr. The pastor with Mount
- 35:33Speaker 1: Hebron Missionary Baptist Church. Hi, this is Steve Gallington, producer
- 35:39Speaker 1: and host of the People's News. If you have a
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- 35:52Speaker 1: one hour episodes of The People's News drop each Sunday
- 35:55Speaker 1: on The People's News podcast hosted by Spreaker dot com
- 36:00Speaker 1: and linked to my website Gallington dot com. This weekend,
- 36:04Speaker 1: we celebrate the life of the Reverend Doctor Martin Luther
- 36:08Speaker 1: King Junior. He gave his life to the community and
- 36:12Speaker 1: many people have chose to make this a day of
- 36:14Speaker 1: servitude and community service. Harlem River Farms is having an
- 36:19Speaker 1: MLK weekend addition garden Crawl by servicing multiple locations in
- 36:24Speaker 1: the third Ward. They ask volunteers to come and help
- 36:27Speaker 1: community gardens in the area. Ron McFarland of Harlem River
- 36:31Speaker 1: Farms talks about the weekend.
- 36:33Speaker 5: So what we've done first with my name is Ron McFarland,
- 36:36Speaker 5: Hollan River Farms, and what we're doing is we're doing
- 36:38Speaker 5: to the call a weekend garden crawl, and so what
- 36:42Speaker 5: that's going to consists of, and it's the MLK edition.
- 36:45Speaker 5: We started doing the Doctor Crawl, I want to say,
- 36:48Speaker 5: last June, and we would go to a different garden
- 36:52Speaker 5: in the third Ward every Thursday from about five to
- 36:56Speaker 5: eight o'clock and we would just volunteer and help these
- 36:58Speaker 5: different gardens out. We stopped it because it started getting
- 37:01Speaker 5: too dark, but we decided to basically bring it back
- 37:05Speaker 5: mainly because of the fact Mlkday and we could do
- 37:08Speaker 5: different things. So what we're doing is we have about
- 37:11Speaker 5: five gardens that have been agreed to open up, and
- 37:15Speaker 5: we're sending volunteers there to help out. And so it's
- 37:19Speaker 5: all of them in the third Ward. It's the third Ward.
- 37:21Speaker 5: It's the Alabama Gardens, Tissue Community Farm, Blackshear Elementary School,
- 37:28Speaker 5: Eco Tone, and one other garden as well too, And
- 37:31Speaker 5: so they're gonna open up. We send volunteers there to
- 37:34Speaker 5: help out. There will be one group coming in the morning,
- 37:37Speaker 5: one group coming in the afternoon, so it could be Saturday, Sunday,
- 37:40Speaker 5: and Monday.
- 37:41Speaker 6: People don't even when people think of having community gardens,
- 37:45Speaker 6: one thing they don't think of is that we have
- 37:47Speaker 6: in a community garden in a.
- 37:48Speaker 5: Third ward area. Yeah, they are about eight maybe nine
- 37:52Speaker 5: gardens in the third Ward, and some of them are
- 37:55Speaker 5: school gardens, some of them are community gardens. Some of
- 37:58Speaker 5: them are a church gardens as well too. It just
- 38:01Speaker 5: so happens. Alabama Gardens is the oldest community garden in Houston, Texas,
- 38:06Speaker 5: and it's right there on Alabama at the corner of
- 38:08Speaker 5: Alabama and and it's but we grow a fair amount
- 38:12Speaker 5: of food at all of these different locations, and by
- 38:14Speaker 5: bringing volunteers there, we do two things. One we get
- 38:17Speaker 5: them familiar with the different gardens, but also we get
- 38:20Speaker 5: help at the gardens as well too, And so this
- 38:22Speaker 5: is the main reason that we do this all so
- 38:24Speaker 5: to speak, so people can learn about the gardens and
- 38:26Speaker 5: then say, hey, I like this place, can I help
- 38:29Speaker 5: you more on a regular basis, And that really works
- 38:31Speaker 5: out really good.
- 38:32Speaker 6: One thing they also do is learn how to garden themselves,
- 38:35Speaker 6: so they can take that knowledge they learn from the
- 38:38Speaker 6: community garden and take it to their own household and community.
- 38:41Speaker 5: And do things in their own community. Absolutely in fact,
- 38:44Speaker 5: and we encourage that. We encourage them to either participate
- 38:48Speaker 5: in their garden or grow their own vegetables as well too.
- 38:51Speaker 5: I've done several things in terms of agriculture, especially in
- 38:53Speaker 5: the Third Ward. My wife and I worked with did
- 38:56Speaker 5: a project with Wheeler in September and it was called
- 38:58Speaker 5: the Greening of Third Ward. We gave away a thousand trees.
- 39:01Speaker 5: We gave away three thousand started plants, the ones that
- 39:04Speaker 5: you have to pay for at at where the different
- 39:08Speaker 5: the different places like Walmart has them and Lows. We
- 39:12Speaker 5: gave them away and we had two thousand people there
- 39:15Speaker 5: and had all kinds of training and the goal was
- 39:19Speaker 5: to get people to start growing their own vegetables for
- 39:22Speaker 5: the two reasons. One it's healthier, but also as you
- 39:24Speaker 5: start looking at the price of food going up, sure
- 39:26Speaker 5: it's a lot cheaper to grow your own vegetables, the
- 39:28Speaker 5: ones that you can grow in season than it is
- 39:31Speaker 5: to go to the grocery store and get them.
- 39:33Speaker 6: Yeah, there's also learning people learning how to eat eat
- 39:36Speaker 6: healthy instead of going to having to go to the
- 39:38Speaker 6: grocery store or have to buy expensive foods that hold foods,
- 39:43Speaker 6: they learn how to do it themselves.
- 39:45Speaker 5: Exactly exactly. We're big onto that. In fact, one of
- 39:48Speaker 5: the other things we're doing now is we're having this
- 39:50Speaker 5: thing grow more spend less and it's an educational series
- 39:53Speaker 5: that we're doing every other Thursday at the Third one
- 39:55Speaker 5: Multi service center from five five to seven thirty, and
- 40:00Speaker 5: we're showing people various the ways that they can grow
- 40:03Speaker 5: their own food or or vegetables, whatever it might be.
- 40:05Speaker 5: In fact, one of the things that we did the
- 40:07Speaker 5: last time we gave away lemon grass, we harvested, we
- 40:10Speaker 5: grew some lemon grass, we harvested, we made some lemon
- 40:13Speaker 5: grass tea, and then we gave them a piece of that.
- 40:15Speaker 5: So they can grow it themselves. And we did the
- 40:18Speaker 5: same thing with Loofah. Everybody thinks sponges or come out
- 40:20Speaker 5: of the ocean, but they actually come from the natural.
- 40:23Speaker 5: Ones come from a plant which is a part of
- 40:25Speaker 5: the cucumber or splash family, And we had grown it earlier,
- 40:28Speaker 5: We harvested it, we took it, and we processed it,
- 40:32Speaker 5: and literally people were walking away with their own loof
- 40:35Speaker 5: of sponge.
- 40:37Speaker 6: So we do about the community gardens. It's going to
- 40:40Speaker 6: be on MLK weekend and we year on Sunday. How
- 40:43Speaker 6: can people get involved and find out and go and volunteer?
- 40:48Speaker 5: Okay, I don't know if you can how I can
- 40:50Speaker 5: get this to you, but we basically have a QR
- 40:52Speaker 5: color or they'll feel free to give to get to
- 40:55Speaker 5: send me an email if as a Ron Mikfarr at
- 40:58Speaker 5: gmail dot com, saseramic for our gmail dot com or
- 41:02Speaker 5: more than like, they can give me a call as
- 41:03Speaker 5: well to seven one three two sixty nine seven seven
- 41:07Speaker 5: two six. And so since this is gon be earing
- 41:09Speaker 5: on Sunday, we'll we'll still have events going on that
- 41:13Speaker 5: Sunday morning and afternoon at all of the gardens, and
- 41:16Speaker 5: then on Monday we'll also be having it as well too,
- 41:19Speaker 5: a morning and afternoon session. So far, we have over
- 41:21Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty five people involved in this already anyway,
- 41:25Speaker 5: and we'll keep getting registrations already, and it's continued on.
- 41:30Speaker 6: And how long have you been doing this? Been involved
- 41:32Speaker 6: with community guarding?
- 41:34Speaker 5: Probably about five or six years ago. I got involved
- 41:36Speaker 5: in it and I used to run half marathons and
- 41:39Speaker 5: I hurt my back, so I said, let me do
- 41:40Speaker 5: something different, and I just started got into getting into larning,
- 41:43Speaker 5: and I cheeve the need for people to be able
- 41:45Speaker 5: to grow their own food. And so we're really trying
- 41:48Speaker 5: to push the envelope and showing people how easy it
- 41:51Speaker 5: is to grow their own vegetables and the benefits of
- 41:54Speaker 5: it at all. And you talked a little bit earlier
- 41:55Speaker 5: about the health benefits, and it is that as well too,
- 41:58Speaker 5: and there's no disputing that. But what I'm doing is
- 42:00Speaker 5: I'm trying to hammer to people the fact of the
- 42:03Speaker 5: financial benefits. A good example, a few years ago, you
- 42:06Speaker 5: can get to a bunch of of mustard greens. You know,
- 42:10Speaker 5: probably it costs you a dollar. Now that same just
- 42:13Speaker 5: one of them's costing you about one hundred a dollar fifty,
- 42:16Speaker 5: and so the price of food is always going up,
- 42:18Speaker 5: it's never going to go down. And so if you
- 42:20Speaker 5: find a way to be able to grow your own
- 42:22Speaker 5: either for you, your family members, or even you know, your
- 42:24Speaker 5: neighbors and all, it makes an awful lot of sense
- 42:27Speaker 5: and it'll help you in your pocket book as well too. Okay,
- 42:29Speaker 5: what yeah, First of all, what all do you need
- 42:31Speaker 5: to come out? Is this somebody to bring all? The
- 42:35Speaker 5: only thing you need to dress for the weather because
- 42:36Speaker 5: it could be a little bit chilly out there. So
- 42:39Speaker 5: I'm a native of New York and that's why these
- 42:41Speaker 5: violganizations called Holland River Farms. So we tell people a layer.
- 42:44Speaker 5: But the most important thing is that you don't have
- 42:46Speaker 5: any open tail shoes. We're closed shoes because we've got
- 42:48Speaker 5: ants out there and they will eat you alive. So
- 42:51Speaker 5: that's the main thing we tell people to do. So
- 42:53Speaker 5: you don't have to bring anything but a good spirit
- 42:54Speaker 5: and a willingness to do some work for a couple hours.
- 42:59Speaker 5: And like I said, we're at five different gardens Saturday,
- 43:03Speaker 5: Sunday and Monday, So that Monday, if you come on
- 43:05Speaker 5: out there, Pickle Garden and they're all in the Third World,
- 43:08Speaker 5: which is about a mile of one another, and Haul
- 43:11Speaker 5: River Farms. How'd you come up with that? I'm a
- 43:15Speaker 5: native of New York and I tell people I can
- 43:17Speaker 5: call my organization anything I want. But like, I'm a
- 43:19Speaker 5: native of New York and my parents they met in Harlem,
- 43:21Speaker 5: New York City. So I decided to give my organization
- 43:24Speaker 5: called Harlem River Farms all right.
- 43:27Speaker 6: Right, telling the information to get in touches you again beginning.
- 43:30Speaker 5: Contact with me. My name is Ron McFarlane. The email
- 43:33Speaker 5: is Ron Mixfarr at gmail dot com, and the phone
- 43:37Speaker 5: number is seventy one three two sixty nine seven seventy
- 43:40Speaker 5: two six for free. To give me a call it
- 43:41Speaker 5: text me.
- 43:42Speaker 1: That was Ron McFarlane of Harlem River Farms. Originating in
- 43:46Speaker 1: the need for retribution and revenge against President Barack Obama,
- 43:52Speaker 1: the convicted felon an adult seventy nine year old, has
- 43:56Speaker 1: attacked healthcare, ordering Republicans not too extend ACA subsidies into
- 44:02Speaker 1: this year. As a result, millions of people across the
- 44:06Speaker 1: country are seeing their health insurance premiums double and sometimes
- 44:10Speaker 1: even triple. Texas has the highest rate of uninsured in
- 44:14Speaker 1: the country already. Builders is a cross partisan movement that
- 44:18Speaker 1: helps people move past the US versus them mindset so
- 44:22Speaker 1: that we can solve problems together. So many people are
- 44:25Speaker 1: tired of division and dysfunction. We talked to Sean Kingsley,
- 44:29Speaker 1: chef and healthcare advocate formally insured through an employer. Sean
- 44:33Speaker 1: Kingsley struggled to navigate costly and complex healthcare when he
- 44:36Speaker 1: transitioned to running his own culinary business. We also talked
- 44:40Speaker 1: to Tory Larned, senior communications manager, Builder's Movement.
- 44:44Speaker 6: We talk about healthcare can be extremely expensive just going
- 44:49Speaker 6: to the doctor, having to pay a copay. Sometimes a
- 44:53Speaker 6: copay is two three hundred dollars a lot. That's evil
- 44:57Speaker 6: with insurance, I'm not saying people without don't have to
- 45:00Speaker 6: pay you more. And added to that, you have.
- 45:03Speaker 9: Places like the emergency yards which are cripple what a
- 45:06Speaker 9: regular emergency center hospital would be. So can people are
- 45:12Speaker 9: going broke, People are spending a lot of money on healthcare.
- 45:16Speaker 9: What is Texas Builders trying to do about these type
- 45:18Speaker 9: of things?
- 45:19Speaker 11: Well, first off, I think that the idea of having
- 45:23Speaker 11: to make a decision over healthcare and other options that
- 45:28Speaker 11: are equally essential in once everyday life is a decision
- 45:33Speaker 11: that should not have to be made, whether you want groceries,
- 45:37Speaker 11: whether you can afford to make your house payment or
- 45:39Speaker 11: your car payment, or having a procedure done because your
- 45:43Speaker 11: copay or the procedure itself costs too much, is just
- 45:47Speaker 11: ridiculous to have to choose that. Builders is about solutions,
- 45:55Speaker 11: no mind know yours specifically as bipartisan group, a partisan group,
- 46:03Speaker 11: our focus is on ours, our community, our state, our
- 46:08Speaker 11: our county and and so on. And with that, we're
- 46:12Speaker 11: not just looking at specific concerns. We're looking at all
- 46:16Speaker 11: the concerns because there are many that seem to be
- 46:20Speaker 11: piling up and as time progresses and it doesn't get
- 46:23Speaker 11: me better. These issues are snowballing, and so someone has
- 46:27Speaker 11: to take the point to say, hey, we are one
- 46:31Speaker 11: and our party is humanity and figuring out how we're
- 46:35Speaker 11: going to fix this because I am my brother's keeper.
- 46:38Speaker 5: You know, what do you do? So what can Builders
- 46:42Speaker 5: do this stuff to try?
- 46:44Speaker 9: I know you have meetings and try to organize, but
- 46:47Speaker 9: for your average your average person right now, speaking of
- 46:51Speaker 9: middle class, I'm even talking about more middle class are
- 46:54Speaker 9: struggling right now and.
- 46:58Speaker 11: On a larger scale, well, coming up with solutions has
- 47:02Speaker 11: seen legislature. Bringing attention to some of these issues is
- 47:09Speaker 11: the first thing that we do, bringing about what the
- 47:12Speaker 11: problems are, finding the solution, and then sitting down and
- 47:16Speaker 11: reaching out to our different groups political or not to
- 47:22Speaker 11: bring attention to those and pass legislation to make changes
- 47:26Speaker 11: that will affect those problems and perhaps iron some of
- 47:32Speaker 11: them out. There's a lot of them. I mean, I
- 47:34Speaker 11: can go through a list, but if we're able to
- 47:37Speaker 11: knock off one at a time, I mean, at some point,
- 47:40Speaker 11: baby steps have to be considered. You know, there are
- 47:42Speaker 11: thirty two counties in the state of Texas that don't
- 47:45Speaker 11: even have a system. So a system that's broken is
- 47:49Speaker 11: one thing, but not having a system at all is another,
- 47:53Speaker 11: and it feels abandoned. And some of those solutions that
- 47:56Speaker 11: we can put into place, see it hold on. What's
- 47:59Speaker 11: that be it virtual healthcare, be it remote system types
- 48:05Speaker 11: of health care. There's money there that can be shifted
- 48:08Speaker 11: to create those things, and those same things that will
- 48:12Speaker 11: help within our communities will help the other counties that
- 48:15Speaker 11: don't have anything. So that's where my focus is with
- 48:19Speaker 11: regard to the group right now, it is hard right now.
- 48:23Speaker 12: Yeah, I think you are going on you're making really
- 48:26Speaker 12: strong point, Seawan. And to add to that, Richard, the
- 48:30Speaker 12: Builder's Movement is about giving a voice to citizens on
- 48:33Speaker 12: all sides of the aisle and bringing them together to
- 48:36Speaker 12: find common ground solutions. And that's what we did with
- 48:39Speaker 12: this group of fourteen citizens, including Sean. Sean from Houston,
- 48:43Speaker 12: we had another Houston night at the table. We had
- 48:45Speaker 12: people from rural West Texas, urban areas of Dallas and
- 48:50Speaker 12: San Antonio. So we tried to have a representative group
- 48:53Speaker 12: because that's where we think the most creative and strongest
- 48:56Speaker 12: solutions are going to come from to solve this pressing
- 48:59Speaker 12: health care issue in the state. But to your point,
- 49:01Speaker 12: you said, how can the average person be a part
- 49:05Speaker 12: of this? Right, because fourteen people, we have divers as
- 49:08Speaker 12: we can make that group, that's just fourteen people, and
- 49:11Speaker 12: so we want everyone to have a voice in this process.
- 49:14Speaker 12: And so whether you're dragging down the road listening to
- 49:17Speaker 12: KPFT right now, it's important that they know that they
- 49:21Speaker 12: can give their input about what's happening in their lives
- 49:25Speaker 12: related to this healthcare issue by going to I'm a
- 49:27Speaker 12: dot Builders Movement dot org and we're collecting feedback from
- 49:31Speaker 12: all across the state, and that feedback in combination with
- 49:35Speaker 12: the proposals and the ideas that Sean and this group
- 49:38Speaker 12: of people from the left and the right and the center,
- 49:41Speaker 12: everything they came up with, are going to inform final
- 49:44Speaker 12: policy solutions that this group and citizens are going to
- 49:47Speaker 12: take to lawmakers in twenty twenty six to make sure
- 49:52Speaker 12: that they have a voice at the table in the
- 49:54Speaker 12: next legislative session. So we really want this to be
- 49:57Speaker 12: about all the people, Houston, I San Antonias, everyone.
- 50:00Speaker 6: So the rural community is especially hit hard because the
- 50:04Speaker 6: closing of hospitals in those rural areas are making it
- 50:08Speaker 6: so that making it harder for them to even find healthcare.
- 50:12Speaker 6: But you mentioned having satellite meetings with doctors and and
- 50:17Speaker 6: using the internet to meet with doctors. It's gonna is
- 50:20Speaker 6: that gonna help out, uh, those rural communities.
- 50:24Speaker 11: It definitely will, Richard, because one of the things is
- 50:27Speaker 11: that people don't know a lot. They know what they
- 50:32Speaker 11: are being told, but there are a lot of services
- 50:34Speaker 11: right here in Harritt County. I know, we're the largest,
- 50:37Speaker 11: probably the largest county and that that's in in Texas
- 50:40Speaker 11: are in our general facinnity area. And I do a
- 50:42Speaker 11: lot with legacy community help, but they're regional. But even
- 50:46Speaker 11: here and and rule you have that, but urban people
- 50:50Speaker 11: don't know what's available. A lot of people don't have
- 50:53Speaker 11: insurance because they haven't been sat down, talked to and
- 50:55Speaker 11: explained what they have in front of them to choose from.
- 51:00Speaker 5: And that's a big deal too.
- 51:03Speaker 9: Yeah, And also the even if you have insurance and
- 51:07Speaker 9: you go into some of the major hospitals, and Houston
- 51:09Speaker 9: has some one of the largest medical centers in the
- 51:12Speaker 9: well known medical center in the world, but if you
- 51:15Speaker 9: don't have insurance, if you don't have the right insurance,
- 51:18Speaker 9: you cannot go to most of those hospitals people, and
- 51:21Speaker 9: people really don't know that because you gotta see, you know,
- 51:24Speaker 9: they got to weave through the insurance insurance policies and.
- 51:29Speaker 5: That you have if you have insurance.
- 51:31Speaker 11: Topics that came up. One of the topics that came
- 51:33Speaker 11: up over the weekend is the idea of creating confusion
- 51:39Speaker 11: and dismantling that confusion so that people have the opportunity
- 51:42Speaker 11: to understand. So once like you brought up an amazing point,
- 51:45Speaker 11: because that's where I'm not with regard to those rural
- 51:48Speaker 11: communities that don't have anything and having something that is remote,
- 51:53Speaker 11: maybe even testing that out in our urban areas and
- 51:56Speaker 11: having people there to explain. You know, I didn't know.
- 51:59Speaker 11: I always had private insurance all my career. When I
- 52:03Speaker 11: opened my own business, I didn't realize how difficult it
- 52:06Speaker 11: really was. And I was fortunate enough to reach out
- 52:09Speaker 11: to a friend who just one voice, spread the word
- 52:12Speaker 11: to me about legacy. Legacy not only taught me about
- 52:16Speaker 11: the healthcare system, how to apply forward, how to do
- 52:18Speaker 11: my taxes now as an independent person without that corporation,
- 52:23Speaker 11: and what my rights were, what was available to me.
- 52:26Speaker 11: There's so many programs that are sitting dormant because people
- 52:29Speaker 11: haven't been set down and explained to what they have
- 52:33Speaker 11: in front of them. Now, that doesn't say that that's
- 52:36Speaker 11: going to help those rules, but if we start here
- 52:39Speaker 11: and build ideas and build systems that we can take
- 52:42Speaker 11: to rule areas, it can be really something that could
- 52:45Speaker 11: make a big dent in where we are with regard
- 52:48Speaker 11: to uninsured you know, citizens here in Texas. So what
- 52:52Speaker 11: you're doing is important for us because I'm hoping that
- 52:55Speaker 11: people will hear Tory and I talk about this, and
- 52:58Speaker 11: you'll hear the passion in our voices and also here
- 53:00Speaker 11: the comparing in yours, But it has to start somewhere.
- 53:05Speaker 11: Even with one person, and fourteen people is a lot
- 53:08Speaker 11: of people, when you think about it, that are on
- 53:10Speaker 11: the same page. Because I don't know that we have
- 53:12Speaker 11: fourteen people that represent us that are on the same page,
- 53:16Speaker 11: you know.
- 53:17Speaker 12: And I think to that point, Son, that's such a
- 53:20Speaker 12: good point. What happens in today's media environment and political
- 53:24Speaker 12: environment is there's a big healthcare conversation happening right now
- 53:28Speaker 12: nationally and its impact here in Texas and in Harris
- 53:31Speaker 12: County with these ACA sassities expiring and trying to figure
- 53:35Speaker 12: out what that solution is going to be.
- 53:37Speaker 7: But what happens when we get when we only focus.
- 53:41Speaker 12: On one major issue, which is not to say that
- 53:44Speaker 12: is such an important issue, and as Seun noted, there
- 53:47Speaker 12: is a lot of opportunity for other meaningful solutions that
- 53:52Speaker 12: we can also be working on. But in this politicized environment,
- 53:56Speaker 12: we're not. Our lawmakers are not making room for nuance
- 53:59Speaker 12: and cons because it doesn't align with their political agenda.
- 54:02Speaker 12: And what we want people and your listener to know
- 54:05Speaker 12: is that the left, the right, in the middle, we
- 54:08Speaker 12: can all work together and guess what we do have
- 54:11Speaker 12: common ground, and we don't want people to believe otherwise
- 54:14Speaker 12: because otherwise those politicians in this current divisis system wins,
- 54:18Speaker 12: and we know that the people can win.
- 54:20Speaker 1: That was Sean Kingsley and Tory Larned with the Builder's
- 54:24Speaker 1: Movement Texas. But always remember that it's the Republicans that
- 54:28Speaker 1: don't want you to have healthcare. If you really want
- 54:31Speaker 1: to have healthcare for all and have it be affordable,
- 54:34Speaker 1: you need to vote Democratic in the midterm elections. In
- 54:38Speaker 1: Major League Soccer, the Houston Dynamos started pre season practice
- 54:41Speaker 1: for their twenty twenty six season. They introduced four new
- 54:44Speaker 1: significant players signings to the city of Houston during a
- 54:47Speaker 1: press conference, Augustine Bozart, Gugerim Lucas Halter, and Hector Herrera,
- 54:53Speaker 1: the Mexican international star who is coming back to the team.
- 54:57Speaker 1: Dynamo President of Soccer Pat looks forward to the new
- 55:01Speaker 1: season with the new signings.
- 55:04Speaker 13: You know, last year, I think obviously the results didn't
- 55:06Speaker 13: happen on the field, but it was it was it
- 55:09Speaker 13: was a situation and a series of you know, ten
- 55:11Speaker 13: years of spending every last time you possibly could in
- 55:14Speaker 13: the salary cap just to try to put a winner
- 55:15Speaker 13: on the field, and at some time, at some point,
- 55:18Speaker 13: you got to pay the piper. So we had to
- 55:20Speaker 13: go and we had to make some tough decisions. We
- 55:22Speaker 13: made a tough sale with mkeel right just before the season.
- 55:24Speaker 13: We didn't do a good job, I think Ash and
- 55:26Speaker 13: I will own that that one. We didn't do a
- 55:27Speaker 13: good job of replacing him. And but what we did
- 55:29Speaker 13: do is we developed a lot of young players. They
- 55:31Speaker 13: gave Brooklyn Reins an opportunity, We give Jack McGlenn an opportunity,
- 55:34Speaker 13: we give got Lawrence and Ollie back on the field.
- 55:36Speaker 13: We give a Felipe androde an opportunity to play. And
- 55:38Speaker 13: I think we've got a really good core. But what
- 55:40Speaker 13: I'm really excited about this season.
- 55:42Speaker 5: So that part of it.
- 55:43Speaker 13: We move on to this year, and what it did
- 55:45Speaker 13: is it opens up a ton of cap space. We
- 55:47Speaker 13: enter this season with the third most cap space and
- 55:50Speaker 13: any team in the league. And I look at our
- 55:52Speaker 13: off season so far, and you'll get to meet these guys,
- 55:55Speaker 13: and I'll just make you a Garamet who's a winger
- 55:56Speaker 13: from from Santos Lucas. Halter, a center back who was
- 55:59Speaker 13: at on loan from Botafogo at Victoria has had a
- 56:03Speaker 13: successful career a younger player. We got to Augustine Bozatt
- 56:07Speaker 13: from Valez who just came off of twenty fourth winning
- 56:10Speaker 13: three titles. And then we bring back heck to Herrera
- 56:13Speaker 13: as well. All four of them captains, all four of
- 56:15Speaker 13: them leaders, all four of them champions. That's what this
- 56:19Speaker 13: team wants to be this year. We want to go
- 56:21Speaker 13: and we're going to push. The expectation for us now
- 56:23Speaker 13: is to be successful. Now what does that mean. We'll
- 56:25Speaker 13: wait and see where this group goes and how they
- 56:27Speaker 13: gel together. But we are very excited about the core
- 56:30Speaker 13: group we have, and I think when you look at
- 56:32Speaker 13: the off season, a lot of thanks goes to Ashra
- 56:35Speaker 13: Manilsson the hard work he did in the off season
- 56:36Speaker 13: to get these guys across the line. To get to
- 56:38Speaker 13: this point, we're doing really well. We still have a
- 56:41Speaker 13: couple more moves to have. We still have another DP
- 56:44Speaker 13: slot that's open, we still have a tam defender that
- 56:47Speaker 13: we can go get. I think if we can go
- 56:49Speaker 13: and try to get those ones across the line. I
- 56:51Speaker 13: really like our group and I think we've given Ben
- 56:54Speaker 13: a team that he's really excited to coach and moving forward,
- 56:57Speaker 13: we still have a nice blend of youth, but I'm
- 56:59Speaker 13: really rid about the steam this series. You can kind
- 57:01Speaker 13: of tell by hearing my voice this is going to
- 57:04Speaker 13: be an exciting.
- 57:04Speaker 5: Season for us.
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