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Concerned Clergy Podcast July 29, 2026 · Concerned Clergy Podcast

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  SPEAKER_0: The following program is paid for by the Concerned Clergy.
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  SPEAKER_0: The views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the hosts and guests
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  SPEAKER_0: The Concerned Clergy invites you to their weekly town hall meeting on Praise, AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
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  SPEAKER_1: Well, we invite you to catch the replay and that's our Substack.
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  SPEAKER_1: The Concerned Clergy Substack is on the Progressive Indiana Network
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  SPEAKER_1: and we invite you to join us on tomorrow as the replay of tonight's show will be
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  SPEAKER_1: on once again the Progressive Indiana Network on our Substack.
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  SPEAKER_1: I want to welcome everyone to our program on tonight.
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  SPEAKER_1: I'm Reverend Tony Alexander.
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  SPEAKER_1: Glad to be with you on tonight.
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  SPEAKER_1: And we invite you to be part of the conversation for tonight's program.
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  SPEAKER_1: Well, how can you do that?
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  SPEAKER_1: Feel free to call in.
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  SPEAKER_1: That number is 317-480-1310.
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  SPEAKER_1: Once again, 317-480-1310.
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  SPEAKER_1: And you can even comment on our Facebook page, the Concerned Clergy of Indianapolis.
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  SPEAKER_1: Let us pray.
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  SPEAKER_1: Father God, Lord, we thank you for this day.
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  SPEAKER_1: Lord, we pray.
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  SPEAKER_1: Lord, for our listening audience.
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  SPEAKER_1: Lord, we pray for everything that they have to endure, what they're going through.
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  SPEAKER_1: And Lord, we pray for our conversation on tonight.
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  SPEAKER_1: Lord, let you lead, guide, and direct.
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  SPEAKER_1: And Lord, we give you all honor, glory, and praise as you give us insight.
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  SPEAKER_1: You give us your divine revelation.
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  SPEAKER_1: And Lord,
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  SPEAKER_1: as we follow you in our conversation,
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  SPEAKER_1: Lord, we pray that the people of God are blessed.
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  SPEAKER_1: In Jesus' name I pray.
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  SPEAKER_1: Amen.
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  SPEAKER_1: Well, Reverend Tony Alexander, once again, I'm glad to be with you.
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  SPEAKER_1: You can call in to the radio station there -- Radio 1 -- 317-480-1310.
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  SPEAKER_1: And if you're listening here in central Indiana,
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  SPEAKER_1: you're riding in your car,
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  SPEAKER_1: you can go to Praise AM 1310,
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  SPEAKER_1: 95.1 FM, Indy's Inspiration Station, so you can catch that as well.
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  SPEAKER_1: If you happen to be traveling, we will not have our president with us on tonight.
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  SPEAKER_1: Pastor Greene, he will not be able to be with us as he's traveling.
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  SPEAKER_1: And he's on assignment down in Kentucky on tonight.
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  SPEAKER_1: So we want to pray for his travels and all that God has for him.
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  SPEAKER_1: But on tonight,
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  SPEAKER_1: a couple of things that we want to talk about,
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  SPEAKER_1: or at least that I have on my agenda,
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  SPEAKER_1: and I invite you to feel free if you got something else you want to talk about
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  SPEAKER_1: to call in or even put that in our chat.
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  SPEAKER_1: First of all,
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  SPEAKER_1: we certainly want to lift up the family of Lindsey Graham,
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  SPEAKER_1: who was a long-term senator.
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  SPEAKER_1: He actually was even, you know, with the state representatives there in South Carolina.
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  SPEAKER_1: And we want to lift up his family as we've seen the last couple of days
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  SPEAKER_1: that they've had some programs in honor of his life, his funeral.
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  SPEAKER_1: Homegoing service and being able to allow the constituents that he served to be able
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  SPEAKER_1: to honor him and show the love,
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  SPEAKER_1: respect, and support for his family in his passing during this difficult time.
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  SPEAKER_1: And to be able to share with the family that there were certainly folks
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  SPEAKER_1: that are wanting to make sure that the family knows that they are cared for
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  SPEAKER_1: and supported.
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  SPEAKER_1: And I want to be clear that this goes beyond what your political beliefs are.
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  SPEAKER_1: We want to make sure that we're lifting up any family.
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  SPEAKER_1: Any family just going through a time of bereavement,
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  SPEAKER_1: any, you know, time -- especially in this case it was a sudden loss --
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  SPEAKER_1: be able to let their family know that there are people of faith,
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  SPEAKER_1: that it goes beyond, you know, political parties.
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  SPEAKER_1: It goes beyond, you know, who you quote-unquote vote for.
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  SPEAKER_1: But you never, you know, want to see a family that has to go through the hardship
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  SPEAKER_1: and understanding the grief that comes with losing a loved one.
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  SPEAKER_1: So we certainly -- Concerned Clergy -- want to lift up that family.
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  SPEAKER_1: And even as,
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  SPEAKER_1: you know,
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  SPEAKER_1: we talk about what's going on with Mitch McConnell down there in Kentucky --
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  SPEAKER_1: while we may not, you know, have an understanding of what his condition is,
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  SPEAKER_1: however, we don't want to see any harm, you know, that comes to him.
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  SPEAKER_1: And we want to continue to hopefully, you know, pray for his healing.
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  SPEAKER_1: And not only that,
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  SPEAKER_1: but pray that,
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  SPEAKER_1: you know, what they're telling us is actually the truth with his condition.
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  SPEAKER_1: Because you have constituents that really are depending, you know, on his voice, his vote.
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  SPEAKER_1: And if he's not able to lend that voice and vote,
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  SPEAKER_1: you know,
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  SPEAKER_1: to the constituents that voted him in,
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  SPEAKER_1: then we certainly have to, you know, pray for his recovery.
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  SPEAKER_1: But at the same time,
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  SPEAKER_1: we have to make sure that those folks still have representation when we have
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  SPEAKER_1: so many things that are potentially up in the air right now when it comes
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  SPEAKER_1: to legislation.
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  SPEAKER_1: But let us first certainly lift up those individuals and their families --
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  SPEAKER_1: the loss of Lindsey Graham and the recovery of Mitch McConnell --
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  SPEAKER_1: hoping that he is actually on the road to recovery.
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  SPEAKER_1: But on tonight,
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  SPEAKER_1: there's a couple,
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  SPEAKER_1: you know,
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  SPEAKER_1: other items that, as we,
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  SPEAKER_1: you know,
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  SPEAKER_1: dive deep into kind of what's going on today --
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  SPEAKER_1: you know, on today -- we've seen.
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  SPEAKER_1: Okay, here's what we've seen.
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  SPEAKER_1: We've seen that here in Indiana,
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  SPEAKER_1: there is pretty much when the temporary status for Haitians
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  SPEAKER_1: that has pretty much gone away.
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  SPEAKER_1: And we have here in central Indiana,
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  SPEAKER_1: they're saying about 7,000 Haitians that now will not be able to work,
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  SPEAKER_1: be gainfully employed.
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  SPEAKER_1: What does that mean?
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  SPEAKER_1: What is the impact on that here in Indiana?
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  SPEAKER_1: I think that's a fair question to ask,
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  SPEAKER_1: not just in Indiana,
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  SPEAKER_1: but even in other places such as Ohio,
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  SPEAKER_1: in which they really recruited folks that were dealing with the hostilities coming
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  SPEAKER_1: from Haiti,
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  SPEAKER_1: dealing with the gang violence in Haiti, dealing with the government uproar.
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  SPEAKER_1: Once again, they had gangs that were coming in, fighting against the government.
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  SPEAKER_1: Folks from Haiti were really fleeing for their lives.
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  SPEAKER_1: And here in the United States, we found some safe haven for them.
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  SPEAKER_1: We found some ways that they would be able to not just flee and get away from all of
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  SPEAKER_1: the turmoil, get away from all of the violence.
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  SPEAKER_1: To come to a place here in America in which they can raise a family,
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  SPEAKER_1: they can build businesses,
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  SPEAKER_1: they can live in safe neighborhoods, they can be embraced by a community.
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  SPEAKER_1: And we've had that in several instances here in the United States in which refugees,
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  SPEAKER_1: those that were fleeing violence,
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  SPEAKER_1: political violence,
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  SPEAKER_1: were able to come in and reestablish themselves
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  SPEAKER_1: and have better lives
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  SPEAKER_1: for their families.
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  SPEAKER_1: But then President Trump came in and said, no, we don't want those people here.
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  SPEAKER_1: We want to get away from their, you know, Temporary Protected Status.
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  SPEAKER_1: We're going to do away with that.
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  SPEAKER_1: And now you have those individuals,
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  SPEAKER_1: those families that are now scrambling,
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  SPEAKER_1: trying to figure out how are we going to make it.
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  SPEAKER_1: In Indiana, Indiana is pretty much leading the nation in foreclosures.
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  SPEAKER_1: How does getting rid of folks that have come in and have bought homes
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  SPEAKER_1: and have mortgages and were here legally --
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  SPEAKER_1: a lot of you want to talk about illegal immigrants.
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  SPEAKER_1: They were here legally.
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  SPEAKER_1: And then within a 30-day,
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  SPEAKER_1: you know,
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  SPEAKER_1: 60-day notice, you're told, you know, you got to readjust your entire life.
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  SPEAKER_1: But these folks have mortgages.
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  SPEAKER_1: They have jobs,
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  SPEAKER_1: they have positions,
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  SPEAKER_1: they have children that are enrolled in schools and in a lot of townships.
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  SPEAKER_1: We're seeing schools that are beginning today, their first day of school.
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  SPEAKER_1: All of that has been disrupted.
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  SPEAKER_1: And we have to ask ourselves, are we really dealing with these issues with a manner of humanity?
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  SPEAKER_1: Are we dealing with these issues simply because we can,
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  SPEAKER_1: we have the power and we don't care about those individuals?
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  SPEAKER_1: Well, I really think we need to consider and we need to ask ourselves,
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  SPEAKER_1: do we really care for our brother and sister?
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  SPEAKER_1: Do we really care for our neighbor?
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  SPEAKER_1: Do we really care for those that have children just like we do,
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  SPEAKER_1: same age,
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  SPEAKER_1: going to the same schools and enduring some of the same issues and hardships?
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  SPEAKER_1: Do we really care?
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  SPEAKER_1: Because here it is,
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  SPEAKER_1: as we are on tonight,
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  SPEAKER_1: once again, we've found out that the administration here in the United States --
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  SPEAKER_1: the administration here in the state of Indiana -- there is a full assault on immigrants.
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  SPEAKER_1: Now, we've heard in so many cases that it's all about illegal immigrants.
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  SPEAKER_1: But right now we're finding out that it's not just about illegal immigrants,
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  SPEAKER_1: but they're even wanting to change the status
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  SPEAKER_1: of those that have been born here in the United States.
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  SPEAKER_1: And because they were born here the Constitution says that they are legal citizens,
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  SPEAKER_1: this administration says we're trying to change that.
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  SPEAKER_1: They're trying to change.
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  SPEAKER_1: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_1: We had Temporary Protected Status for folks that were fleeing countries in
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  SPEAKER_1: which there was hardships and there was government uprising.
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  SPEAKER_1: Well, now they want to remove those protections.
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  SPEAKER_1: And I also want to get into the area of as we look into the assault on DEI --
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  SPEAKER_1: diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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  SPEAKER_1: There is an assault not on diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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  SPEAKER_1: There's an assault on those words.
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  SPEAKER_1: But not the principle.
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  SPEAKER_1: There is an assault on those people that it was supposed to help protect.
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  SPEAKER_1: But once again, those principles, they pretty much have thrown out the window.
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  SPEAKER_1: Many grants from this administration have been
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  SPEAKER_1: pulled back
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  SPEAKER_1: for the sole reason that the word diversity, equity, or inclusion was in the grant.
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  SPEAKER_1: We've got many grants that were pulled back just because of the word climate.
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  SPEAKER_1: With no real review of what those grants really did and what population or people
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  SPEAKER_1: that it served.
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  SPEAKER_1: So here we are, as we're talking about once again, diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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  SPEAKER_1: On tonight, we,
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  SPEAKER_1: once again,
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  SPEAKER_1: were even made aware that the Trump administration had their hand slapped.
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  SPEAKER_1: Well, let's back up.
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  SPEAKER_1: They admitted in court documents.
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  SPEAKER_1: They admitted this in court documents.
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  SPEAKER_1: That states that were seeking disaster relief --
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  SPEAKER_1: so that could be from a hurricane or
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  SPEAKER_1: that can be from flooding.
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  SPEAKER_1: That can be from excessive winter storms.
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  SPEAKER_1: All of the things that we know that are natural disasters,
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  SPEAKER_1: whether it be fires, you know, that we've seen in California.
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  SPEAKER_1: The Trump administration admitted in court.
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  SPEAKER_1: They admitted in court that they were withholding funds from states
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  SPEAKER_1: that actually voted for the Democrat candidate in the last election.
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  SPEAKER_1: So for states that did not support Donald Trump,
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  SPEAKER_1: those states -- we know of Rhode Island,
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  SPEAKER_1: we know of Maine, New Jersey, New York, to name a few.
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  SPEAKER_1: Trump's lawyers actually went into court and said that funds were withheld
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  SPEAKER_1: for disaster relief because the overall population,
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  SPEAKER_1: or maybe the leaders of those states,
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  SPEAKER_1: either supported Democratic candidates,
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  SPEAKER_1: were led by Democrats in the states,
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  SPEAKER_1: but the number one issue was they did not support Donald Trump.
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  SPEAKER_1: So we've seen that.
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  SPEAKER_1: We're seeing that right now.
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  SPEAKER_1: Lawyers for the Trump DOJ, DHS,
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  SPEAKER_1: they're going into court and they are saying that the reason we're not going
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  SPEAKER_1: to release funds is because they didn't support Donald Trump.
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  SPEAKER_1: They might as well say we are discriminating against states that are Democrat states.
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  SPEAKER_1: And we've seen that before.
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  SPEAKER_1: We've heard it before.
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  SPEAKER_1: We've heard this administration saying that we're going to withhold funding
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  SPEAKER_1: for your elections if you don't abide by what we want you as
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  SPEAKER_1: an administration -- or an executive order -- to follow.
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  SPEAKER_1: Where are you going?
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  SPEAKER_1: I'm going to tie it all back to DEI.
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  SPEAKER_1: DEI was pretty much torn up saying there is no discrimination.
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  SPEAKER_1: Everything's fair and equal.
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  SPEAKER_1: But here we have right now.
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  SPEAKER_1: We have this administration admitting in court, showing the documents, that
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  SPEAKER_1: no, we do discriminate and will discriminate against Democrats.
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  SPEAKER_1: We'll discriminate against providing disaster relief for states.
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  SPEAKER_1: Listen to this.
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  SPEAKER_1: Your state could be, you know, 48% Republican.
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  SPEAKER_1: And they could be 52% Democrat,
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  SPEAKER_1: but because of the fact the 4%,
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  SPEAKER_1: they're saying we don't care anything about the 48% Republicans.
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  SPEAKER_1: Your overall state didn't vote for Trump, so we're going to kick you to the curb.
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  SPEAKER_1: That is what they've said.
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  SPEAKER_1: Let me put it to you in my language.
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  SPEAKER_1: They're saying no,
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  SPEAKER_1: if you didn't support President Trump,
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  SPEAKER_1: then you're not going to get certain benefits that you should get.
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  SPEAKER_1: We've seen that there are certain grants that have been withheld.
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  SPEAKER_1: We're seeing that there's disaster relief that's being withheld.
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  SPEAKER_1: So here's what I want people to ponder on --
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  SPEAKER_1: I want you to make sure that you're saying, okay...
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  SPEAKER_1: this makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_1: Well, what do you mean, what makes sense?
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  SPEAKER_1: If we know that an administration will discriminate against Democrats when it comes
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  SPEAKER_1: to disaster relief,
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  SPEAKER_1: if we know that an administration will discriminate against law firms
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  SPEAKER_1: because they represent certain individuals they don't like,
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  SPEAKER_1: if we know that we have an administration that would discriminate
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  SPEAKER_1: against certain colleges and universities because of what they stand for --
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  SPEAKER_1: and the administration is very open,
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  SPEAKER_1: they're not going to support certain things --
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  SPEAKER_1: but when it comes to DEI,
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  SPEAKER_1: when it comes to Black businesses,
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  SPEAKER_1: when it comes to minority businesses,
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  SPEAKER_1: a lot of you want to pretend, oh, everything's equal.
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  SPEAKER_1: Everything's, you know, it's going to be an equal playing field.
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  SPEAKER_1: There is no discrimination.
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  SPEAKER_1: Now, wait a minute.
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  SPEAKER_1: You're wide open in saying we're discriminating against Democrats when it comes
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  SPEAKER_1: to even drawing lines for territories.
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  SPEAKER_1: In some of these states that are saying that Blacks are being drawn out,
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  SPEAKER_1: the Democrats are being drawn out,
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  SPEAKER_1: that the populations, you know, are being drawn out,
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  SPEAKER_1: being unable to support the candidates of their choice --
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  SPEAKER_1: so we know that's happening.
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  SPEAKER_1: We know that's going on.
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  SPEAKER_1: Supreme Court said it's okay.
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  SPEAKER_1: Check this out.
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  SPEAKER_1: The Supreme Court has said a couple of things:
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  SPEAKER_1: that the president is immune pretty much for anything when he's in office.
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  SPEAKER_1: And this president is very opinionated.
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  SPEAKER_1: He tells you who he does like and who he doesn't like.
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  SPEAKER_1: He tells you who he supports and who he's not.
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  SPEAKER_1: Let's talk about DEI when it comes to the financial effect and when it comes to businesses.
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  SPEAKER_1: They want to tell you they're not in support of making sure that at least we do
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  SPEAKER_1: a study that shows whether or not minorities are being treated properly
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  SPEAKER_1: or given opportunities as they should.
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  SPEAKER_1: But here it is -- the Trump family can go and put Don Jr. or Eric on the board of a corporation.
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  SPEAKER_1: Two weeks later,
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  SPEAKER_1: there's an announcement that now,
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  SPEAKER_1: whoever this corporation is, they're going to get this big government contract.
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  SPEAKER_1: And guess who the board members are?
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  SPEAKER_1: The Trumps.
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  SPEAKER_1: We know now that based on disclosures on some of the trading that went on early in
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  SPEAKER_1: the year, in which our president did over 3,000 trades in six months.
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  SPEAKER_1: Six months.
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  SPEAKER_1: Many of those trades were done when he said, okay, I'm going to make an announcement.
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  SPEAKER_1: At the same time, we're going to, you know, move and we're going to shuffle things.
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  SPEAKER_1: Some of the assets that we have, you know, when it comes to the stock market.
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  SPEAKER_1: We're going to buy and sell based on what I know.
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  SPEAKER_1: And now we see that even there is a premium that's being put on Truth Social posts,
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  SPEAKER_1: simply for the sole purposes of allowing traders to have advance notice
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  SPEAKER_1: on what's upcoming from the administration and announcements.
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  SPEAKER_1: Or maybe even Donald Trump would want to, quote-unquote,
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  SPEAKER_1: give someone advance notice on what you maybe want to invest in.
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  SPEAKER_1: We have so many conflicts.
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  SPEAKER_1: So much going on.
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  SPEAKER_1: But yet we look at diversity, equity, inclusion,
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  SPEAKER_1: and we look
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  SPEAKER_1: at small minority businesses and we pretend that they have an unfair advantage.
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  SPEAKER_1: Everything I just shared with you thus far really indicates who has the unfair advantage.
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  SPEAKER_1: We have to go to our first commercial break.
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  SPEAKER_1: If you would like to be part of the conversation, you can call in.
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  SPEAKER_1: That phone number is 317-480-1310.
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  SPEAKER_1: Once again, 317-480-1310.
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  SPEAKER_1: You're listening to the Concerned Clergy Radio Show on Praise AM 1310,
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  SPEAKER_1: 95.1 FM, Indy's Inspiration Station.
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  SPEAKER_1: Welcome back to the Concerned Clergy Radio Show.
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  SPEAKER_1: I'm Reverend Tony Alexander.
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  SPEAKER_1: I'm glad to be with you on this evening,
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  SPEAKER_1: and we've just been doing some comparison, if you will,
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  SPEAKER_1: to I would say some of the issues that we see today versus --
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_1: or excuse me --
• 23:50
  when we're talking about,
• 23:51
  you know, DEI in comparison with what this administration's really doing
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_1: and what Indiana's really doing.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_1: And we invite you to be part of the conversation, and you can do that
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_1: by calling into the radio station.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_1: That number is 317-480-1310.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_1: Once again, 317-480-1310.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_1: Or you can comment also on our Facebook page, the Concerned Clergy of Indianapolis.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_1: Now, I want to kind of, you know, throw this out.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_1: You know, we've got this deal about mail-in voting.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_1: We have where the president has continued to speak out against mail-in voting.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_1: But here's what's very interesting when we really look at this whole mail-in voting issue.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_1: The president himself -- that's how he votes.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_1: He votes via mail-in voting.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_1: And while we haven't looked at the records when it comes to his family,
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_1: I'd have to guess that the majority of
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_1: the Trump family also votes via mail-in voting.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_1: I don't see Ivanka Trump or Jared -- or any of the other Trumps,
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_1: whether it be Eric or Don Jr. -- do you see them standing in line?
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_1: You see them standing in line at any voting place?
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_1: Probably not.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_1: Matter of fact, do you think they've ever stood in line at any voting place?
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_1: But here it is.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_1: Trump wants to make, you know, make it so difficult for all of us to vote,
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_1: saying that the only way you can trust it -- check this out, y'all --
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_1: the only way you can trust it is if it goes through the U.S. mail
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_1: and it's delivered by the day of the election and it's counted on election day.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_1: That's what he said.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_1: And he's also said that what he's trying to do via executive order is say that
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_1: the U.S. Post Office should be able to screen your mail.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_1: That means go through your bills,
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_1: go through your mail,
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_1: your letters,
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_1: your cards,
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_1: look through and see if you got a mail-in ballot and let the post office determine
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_1: whether or not you should receive that mail-in ballot.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_1: Now, check this out.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_1: We're talking about a post office that is pretty much underwater.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_1: We're talking about a post office that is continually raising prices
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_1: but giving you less of a service.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_1: We're talking about a post office that in a lot of times,
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_1: you know, you just got folks that are just trying to get by.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_1: And the administration is threatening -- okay, you're the one.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_1: You know,
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_1: you are the mail carrier that's got the satchel on your back and you're walking
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_1: through the neighborhood and you're dealing with dogs on the porch.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_1: This administration actually said that we're going to sign an executive order
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_1: where you're going to be the one that's responsible to make sure that whoever asked
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_1: for a mail-in ballot,
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_1: either that ballot counts or not, or whether you even get to receive that ballot.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_1: That's what they're saying.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_1: That's what they're doing.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_1: But here it is.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_1: They're telling you to do something different than what they would do.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_1: Because they're not waiting in line, rather, to go vote.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_1: But they want to do everything that they can to stop you from voting.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_1: But they're saying that the U.S.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_1: Postal Service should be the one in control.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_1: So all of a sudden, they got a lot of trust in the Postal Service.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_1: And they say, we can't trust electronic means of voting.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_1: Well, why is it they can trust electronic means of making money?
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_1: They can trust electronic means of cryptocurrency when it's lying in their bank accounts.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_1: They can trust Bitcoin.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_1: When it's all electronic.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_1: They can trust electronic transfers.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_1: They can trust their money when it comes to the stock market and going online
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_1: and making, you know, whatever trade or whatever you're going to do online.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_1: But when it comes to a simple thing --
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_1: and this is something, once again, Trump did over 3,000 times --
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_1: ladies
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_1: and gents, we only vote once or twice in any year.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_1: So he can trust over 3,000 times in all of these transactions dealing with his money.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_1: Because I guarantee you,
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_1: they're not walking into the bank making sure they got a hard-written check.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_1: They're not mailing something through the post office to the bank or to
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_1: the financial institution.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_1: But they're telling you they can trust the system when it comes to financial transactions.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_1: Electronic is fine.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_1: But no, we can't have anything in regards to electronic voting.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_1: That tells you that it's not about security, because I guarantee you
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_1: if they really cared about security,
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_1: they care about the security of their money first.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_1: It's not about security, but it's about control.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_1: Tell yourself -- or ask yourself --
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_1: how many times are we seeing anybody related to a Trump walking in, using the mail?
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_1: As a matter of fact, do you think any of the Trumps even go to the mailbox?
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_1: I guarantee you, everything that they're doing, they're doing electronically.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_1: They're doing over the internet.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_1: They're doing it in a place in which they feel secure that their dollars are.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_1: But they want you to believe that when it comes to voting,
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_1: it ain't safe, where you can't trust it.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_1: And y'all falling into that trap.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_1: Some of these things are actually just common sense.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_1: But too often you fall into the trap of, well, here's the spin.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_1: Here's what they're telling me.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_1: And you don't look at it from a wider lens.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_1: You know, it's kind of like we have so many one-offs of what maybe this is -- what has happened.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_1: This is what someone's, you know,
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_1: you know,
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_1: whether it be the Trump administration,
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_1: all these different boards that the Trump boys are on,
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_1: all the money that Trump's getting from his golf courses,
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_1: how he was charging the government, making sure that they stayed at his hotels.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_1: So many things are so right there out in the open.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_1: I need a Trump supporter to explain to me why is it you accept that.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_1: So I'm going to give you a chance.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_1: Feel free to call in.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_1: 317-480-1310.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_1: We also have Greg Bovino.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_1: He's coming in town.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_1: What?
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_1: Yeah, he's coming right here in central Indiana in Fishers.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_1: To have and be a speaker at a mass deportation rally.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_1: What's that about?
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_1: We'll talk about that on the other side of our break.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_1: Once again, feel free to call in: 317-480-1310.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_1: You're listening to the Concerned Clergy Radio Show
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_1: on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM, Indy's Inspiration Station.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_1: Welcome back to the Concerned Clergy Radio Show.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_1: I'm Reverend Tony Alexander.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_1: I'm your host on this evening, and I'm glad to be with you.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_1: I'm glad that all of you have joined us.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_1: And we invite you to be part of our conversation on tonight.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_1: Feel free to call into the radio station.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_1: That phone number is 317-480-1310.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_1: Once again, 317-480-1310.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_1: Or you can also
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_1: comment on our Facebook page, the Concerned Clergy of
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_1: Indianapolis also.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_1: Well, we've been talking about on tonight,
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_1: you know,
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_1: the fact that there's some -- I'll say -- when you look at, okay,
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_1: what this administration is,
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_1: quote-unquote,
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_1: calling for versus really what the issues are --
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_1: where we're seeing hypocrisy in all of that.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_1: But I also want to transition a little bit.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_1: This Saturday,
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_1: we have our former Border Patrol leader, Greg Bovino.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_1: He's coming in and he's coming into central Indiana in Fishers.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_1: And he's going to be leading what is called a mass deportation rally.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_1: So up here in Fishers now, let me help remind folks that we do have ICE in northern Indiana.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_1: We also have ICE that is up in Hamilton County.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_1: I can't recall if it's up,
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_1: you know,
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_1: actually in Fishers, Carmel --
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_1: you know,
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_1: at this point,
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_1: I can't recall --
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_1: but we do know that ICE has set up a quote-unquote headquarters here
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_1: for central Indiana.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_1: And here it is that we have a former Border control leader.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_1: He was the one that was in Minneapolis,
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_1: Minnesota, when we had some of the ICE shootings there of protesters.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_1: He was the one that was the messenger, actually presenting false messages that
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_1: the protesters were attacking ICE officers.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_1: And then you found Mr. Bovino --
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_1: he was, you know, all of a sudden shipped out to California on a different assignment.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_1: So now we have Greg Bovino.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_1: He's coming in town once again in Fishers for August the 1st.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_1: And he's calling this -- or the organizers have called this -- a mass deportation rally.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_1: And they're even charging for it.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_1: So if you want to, you know, if you want to go see Mr. Bovino, you got to pay $50.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_1: Okay.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_1: And there's also a private dinner at $500 that you can go and attend.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_1: But in addition to that,
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_1: there's also some protesters that are going to say we're not just accepting Mr.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_1: Bovino coming into our community and spouting some of the things
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_1: that we've already seen him spout.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_1: So he's coming in on Saturday.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_1: And the question is, well, why?
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_1: What's your intentions?
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_1: Are you coming,
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_1: you know,
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_1: just to set the platform and the stage -- that now we're getting ready to see some of
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_1: the things we've seen in Minneapolis,
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_1: we've seen in Maine,
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_1: we've seen in some of the other cities here in the United States --
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_1: where ICE is coming in and they're harassing our residents and our community.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_1: Is that what this is about?
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_1: Folks, we certainly can't let that happen.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_1: If you want to be part of the conversation, feel free to call in: 317-480-1310.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_1: We do have a caller on the line.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_1: Let's bring in Tony.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_1: Good evening.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_1: How are you?
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_1: Praise the Lord.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_1: Good evening, Tony.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_2: Praise the Lord.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_2: Listen, I've been noticing a trend with this POTUS.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_2: It seems like whenever you protest or disagree with his policy or something he said,
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_2: then you're labeled as a communist.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_2: I don't know if you've noticed that or not, but that's what's been trending from this president.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_2: Socialism as well is getting a negative connotation attached to what I've noticed as well.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_2: Those two labels, communist and socialist, shouldn't be negative.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_2: My viewpoint of that is it's just a way of thinking.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_2: It's not a political stance.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_2: And I was just wondering if you noticed that trending with this president or not.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_1: Well, let me say this, Tony, because here's the real issue.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_1: The real issue is we're being labeled and we have to get away from the labels,
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_1: especially socialists and communists.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_1: Capitalists --
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_1: because what they're doing is,
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_1: even in the Democrat Party as we look at it,
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_1: right now the Democrat Party is going to be split,
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_1: as we're looking at it now, between Democrats and Democratic Socialists.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_1: And most folks don't even know what is a socialist and what the Republicans will do.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_1: They will brand you a certain label and then let you live with that label,
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_1: and nobody even knows what that label means, because the majority
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_1: of people can't even identify what in the world is a socialist.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_1: It's hard enough for me to identify if I'm Democrat or Republican or Libertarian or Independent.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_1: Now you're giving me all of these factions within the parties.
• 38:54
  Now we do know -- Republican Party -- you're either MAGA or you're Republican,
• 38:59
  and it's either or.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_1: So you're either, you know, with Trump or you're not.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_1: Most folks have said, I'm going to fall in line.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_1: I'm going to be with Trump, whatever.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_1: But when it comes to Democrats,
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_1: Democrats are now fighting over, am I Democrat or am I Democratic Socialist?
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_1: Or am I something else?
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_1: And that is dividing and it's causing issues when it comes to the fact that we stand
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_1: for some of the same things.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_1: But because we're allowing labels to identify us,
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_1: then that's separating us, if that makes sense.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_2: Yeah, you couldn't be more correct.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_2: And I believe that some on the right,
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_2: they smell blood in the water and they have pounced on that, because within
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_2: the Democrat Party you have a fight between progressives, far liberals, centrists.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_2: I mean, you're right.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_2: We should label ourselves.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_2: We're either Democrat, Republican, or independent.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_2: And I just hope it doesn't cause a big enough rift in the water for the midterm elections.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_2: That's my prayer.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_1: All right.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_1: Well, I appreciate your comment.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_1: Thanks, Tony.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_1: And continue to listen and call in.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_1: I think this brother,
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_1: he really hit on something that is probably
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_1: more important than anything
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_1: that we've really been talking about.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_1: And that's just keeping a Democrat Party together and not falling into,
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_1: you know, am I a fraction of a Democrat Party?
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_1: Or can I just say I'm part of the Democrat Party for the overall good of the party,
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_1: the platform, and the people?
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_1: Because one thing we found -- let's be real, folks.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_1: Whether we call them Republican or MAGA, they all fall in line.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_1: They all fall in line.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_1: I mean, you look at every piece of legislation.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_1: They all fall in line.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_1: Democrats will really look at an issue.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_1: And, you know, I'm not going to say this is 100 percent.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_1: Generally speaking,
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_1: Democrats will really look at an issue and say,
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_1: is this important to me or is this important to my constituents?
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_1: Do I support it or not?
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_1: And I'm going to fight against my fellow Democrats and I'm going to fight with them,
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_1: you know, in open, in public.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_1: And I'm going to tell them, you know, I don't support that.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_1: You got Democrats right now saying, okay, well, you're a socialist.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_1: Well, I ain't going to support that.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_1: Democrats right now in public -- hey, you're a progressive.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_1: I ain't going to support that.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_1: All that is -- well, why ain't going to support that?
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_1: So you have all these different, you know, factions and fractures in the Democrat Party.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_1: You don't hear any of that when it comes to the Republican Party.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_1: The only thing you ever hear --
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_1: oh, well, behind closed doors, we hear this Republican saying this and that.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_1: Off the record, we hear this Republican saying this or that.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_1: Well, when we couldn't, you know, record it, here's what they're saying.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_1: But then when it comes to voting,
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_1: when it comes to public comments,
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_1: when it comes to their press releases, they are all singing the same song.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_1: They're toeing the same line.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_1: And there's no difference.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_1: And the thing is,
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_1: the only ones that will deviate --
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_1: and we've seen this over the last 10 years --
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_1: the only ones that deviate are the ones that have decided I'm either going to resign
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_1: from Congress
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_1: or Trump's primaryed me and now I'm out.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_1: Other than that, you're nothing.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_1: And even then,
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_1: with some of those that are facing the potential -- well,
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_1: matter of fact,
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_1: those that have already lost their primaries and know they're not going to be back --
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_1: many of them are still pretty much out in public.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_1: Okay, we're --
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_1: oh, what's the word?
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_1: I'm concerned about some of these decisions.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_1: Or I want to make sure that I'm being heard before I vote on the SAVE Act.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_1: Or I need to make sure that at least they talk to the survivors of the Epstein scandal.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_1: But there's no substance to anything and there's no hard lines when it really comes
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_1: to any substance as well.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_1: That's what we're dealing with.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_1: That is what's really going on.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_1: That's really happening.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_1: When we talk about discrimination,
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_1: and then we talk about what's going on with DEI --
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_1: we should be able to see that this administration,
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_1: whether it's federal or even if it's here in the state of Indiana,
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_1: there is discrimination.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_1: There's open discrimination.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_1: Lawyers are going into courtrooms and saying,
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_1: we are not going to give disaster relief to a state
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_1: that didn't support Donald Trump.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_1: So they're saying, we don't care about all the Republicans in that state.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_1: Because overall, we're not going to even help you rebuild.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_1: We're not going to help you with disaster relief.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_1: Your people are going to have to suffer.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_1: That tells you, this administration does not care about you.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_1: We want to call ourselves a Christian nation.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_1: Is that what Jesus would do?
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_1: Because guess what?
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_1: When we have natural disasters,
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_1: whether it be a hurricane,
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_1: whether it be a tornado,
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_1: whether it be effects of flooding and rain,
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_1: whether it be a snowstorm,
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_1: whether it be, you know, some of the wildfires that we've seen --
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_1: you know,
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_1: when those wildfires,
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_1: when those hurricanes come,
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_1: you know,
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_1: come through,
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_1: you know,
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_1: they're not ducking and dodging like some video game or some Pac-Man game
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_1: and only, you know, going to Republican -- eating up Republicans or Democrats.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_1: No, everybody in that path is being affected.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_1: But the decision from administration is like, no, y'all should have all supported me.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_1: And because you didn't, I'm not going to give you any money.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_1: That's court records, people.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_1: That's the lawyers going in and saying that.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_1: And we know it.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_1: We see it.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_1: It's public record.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_1: So if we know that they're discriminating on entire states based on what
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_1: the overall popular vote was,
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_1: and I'm bringing it back to DEI,
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_1: what makes you think they're not going to discriminate against Black people
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_1: that are just trying to survive and build a business?
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_1: Of course they are.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_1: It's really that simple.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_1: So all you folks that are out there saying that, well,
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_1: we don't need to worry about, you know, civil rights because everything's equal now --
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_1: let's look at the present-day court records.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_1: And we can see time and time, over and over again, what this administration has admitted.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_1: That we're doing things only because we're going against Democrats.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_1: We're withholding funds because this state didn't support this president.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_1: When we look at all of the laws,
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_1: when it came to the territorial boundaries and all these different states
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_1: that were looking to redistrict,
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_1: Supreme Court came out and said,
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_1: hey, it's okay to redistrict if you're doing it based on political lines.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_1: So you can discriminate, in other words, based on if they're Democrats or Republicans.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_1: That's what the Supreme Court said.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_1: They say, yeah, you can draw lines based on political party.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_1: They're saying you can discriminate based on political party.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_1: So if they're telling you we can discriminate against political party,
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_1: if they're telling you we can withhold funds because of political party,
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_1: if they're telling you that we're going to withhold grants because they had
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_1: the words either diversity, equity,
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_1: or inclusion,
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_1: they're telling you that we're withholding funds just because somebody put
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_1: in their grant the word climate --
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_1: that tells you discrimination is still alive.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_1: It's not just living and breathing.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_1: Discrimination is rising and it's thriving.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_1: Here in 2026.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_1: You thought we had a fight back in the '60s.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_1: I would tell you right now.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_1: The fight is even greater.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_1: Because too many of you have accepted the fact that there is no discrimination.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_1: While in our courts,
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_1: we have the top of the government saying, yes, we're discriminating against folks.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_1: And here's why.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_1: And we have the Supreme Court saying it's okay to discriminate.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_1: Saying it's okay to pull folks over because of the color of their skin.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_1: Without knowing if they have any warrants.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_1: Without knowing where they're from.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_1: Where they can look like me, speak perfect English.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_1: Or look like me and have no English.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_1: But because they look like me, that's a right to pull them over.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_1: Tell me, there ain't no discrimination.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_1: There's not a need
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_1: to make sure that there is diversity, equity, and inclusion.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_1: We brought it all back, y'all.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_1: That's the end of our show.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_1: We certainly want to make sure that as we look
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_1: at this rally that's coming up this weekend with Greg Bovino coming in,
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_1: there's also going to be some folks that are saying, no,
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_1: we're not just going to let you come in and you're not going to change
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_1: and transform our community.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_1: But whatever we do,
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_1: if we protest against that,
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_1: if we stand up against that, we want to do it in a safe manner, in a civil manner.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_1: So let's do that.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_1: But I do encourage,
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_1: especially you folks up in Fishers,
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_1: Noblesville, Carmel -- where you think you're exempt from all of this -- stand up.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_1: We need you.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_1: All right, everybody, that's the end of our show.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_1: We do invite you once again to catch the replay.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_1: And that is our Substack on the Progressive Indiana Network.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_1: And that'll be on tomorrow morning on Thursday.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_1: Everyone enjoy your evening and have a good night.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_1: Be blessed.