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Iran War Comes Home, America's Biggest Enemy Exposed | The Mark Driscoll Show | Ep 22 · The Mark Driscoll Show

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Well, howdy guys, welcome to the Mark Driscoll Show.
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It is going to be a packed show. Today we get into the horrible
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terrorist attack that happened this last week.
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We talked about Jelly Roll's wife.
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So buckle up. That's going to be a good time.
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James Tallarico is back at it again and we want to address
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evil pastors and we will close it out with a home wrecking
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marathon law that needs to go into every single state in this
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country. Thank you guys, TuneIn, and
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buckle up, you're in for it. Now from Bill Malujin, the
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following reporter Senior law federal law enforcement confirms
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our reporting that the the suspect is dead.
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Additionally, told the suspects body is badly burned, he was
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killed by armed security. Bill is told that he ran the car
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into the building, had a rifle, got into a shootout with
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security who killed him. The car was on fire inside and
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that would obviously be the source of the smoke coming out
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of that building. So it would appear now that the
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immediate threat to the synagogue is over, but now we're
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dealing with the aftermath. All right, Pastor marks the last
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week, March 12th, Ayman Muhammad Ghazili, a 41 year old Lebanese
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born U.S. citizen, which that would be an immigrant from
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Lebanon, rammed his truck into a building.
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We come to find out his brother, his brothers were killed in
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Lebanon. They were part of Hezbollah.
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Just wild. But the an FBI has called this a
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targeted attack on Jewish community.
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That's official terrorism language.
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So the war has come home. Yeah, we've had multiple, you
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know, Allah Akbar and then terrorist acts on the homeland.
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That's a declaration of spiritual warfare depending upon
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which scholar you like. It's our God is greater.
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And and so this is this demonic spiritual warfare attack.
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And so, yeah, what we see here, this was a Jewish synagogue, one
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of the largest, if not the largest in the country.
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They have a school, there's kids on site.
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I mean as a, as a, as a faith leader, like horrifying,
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terrifying worst case scenario. And it didn't, it didn't go that
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bad. And so it, it maybe it got a lot
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of airtime, but he didn't get as much airtime as like a a major
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terrorist attack because it the, the bomb going off in or not
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going off in New York. This it feels like there is some
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protection. God is protecting his people.
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If you're driving a truck into a preschool with 150 kids, a
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synagogue, a church, were you planning on just no.
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You're, this is the, I mean, this is, this is mass murder
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attempt. Thankfully, it didn't do his
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Recon because there was an event coming up with over 1000 people.
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And so that would have been even more catastrophic, you know, And
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so for me as a pastor, whether it's church, synagogue, mosque,
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anywhere that people are assembling according to their
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religion, that has to be sacred space.
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And what we're seeing is we even saw that in Minneapolis, where,
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you know, activists on the left come into a church, and we've
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just lost any sense of sanctity of space.
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And, you know, of course, I'm not a Muslim.
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Of course, you know, I'm not a Reformed Jew as this synagogue
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was. But if people are gathering
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according to their religion, there should be a profound sense
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of respect that that is sacred space and it belongs to those
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people to do according to their convictions.
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And that needs to be honored. And what you see here is a
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person with one religious convictions deciding that they
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have the right to do terrorism and to take life of other people
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for worshipping their God. That tells you a lot about that
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religion. Because you're you're a
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controversial bastard and a major leader of many people.
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Many people follow you all over the world.
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So you would not tell other Christians to be violent?
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No, but the Christians aren't. We're not attacking mosques.
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If you don't see religious right, you know mega folks
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taking over progressive mainline liberal denomination.
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It'd be really easy. You wouldn't even need a gun.
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Yeah, I mean, if you've got a transvestite Bishop, you're
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automatically not probably going to have a real great security
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force that you're. So what we're seeing is it's
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coming from the left and it's coming from Islam.
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Let's just be honest. And you say, well, that's that's
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discriminatory or bigoted, That's just fact.
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That's just reality. It's not coming from the right.
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And So what we're seeing, as well as the the contributions of
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of Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson toward
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anti-Semitism, it doesn't help. Doesn't help.
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You know, it doesn't say they're directly responsible, but just
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this constant Jew hating doesn't help and and it really raises
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issue of security. And so if you're a like I'm the
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pastor, your past, like if you're a faith leader, the days
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of your House of worship being a place that is sacred and
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respected, those days are gone. So thankfully here they had
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security. They had armed security.
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So when the guy got out of the vehicle with a weapon, he was
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taken down, which is the right thing to do.
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The reason it probably got a lot of air time, it was during the
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day. And so this was done for news
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and shock. But the fact that he was able to
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drive a truck into a synagogue in a school means that there was
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a very serious security failure. And so the he.
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Sat in the parking lot for two hours getting up the courage to
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do it. Yeah.
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And that's where somebody in security's got to say that if
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this is our parking lot, this is our dominion, you need to
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exercise dominion. You know, and if you're a Jewish
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guy and you see, you know, a guy who, you know, is connected to
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Hezbollah sitting in the parking lot, somebody should walk over
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and knock on the door and be like, Hey, can I help you?
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And, and there needs to be. So today you can do things like
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like facial recognition if your church or House of worship can
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afford it. AI can actually start reading
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faces before people even show up at the building And, and some
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churches have gone to that. But you've got to start to think
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in terms of who do we hire to help us put together security
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protocols and plan. Our friend John Lovell's got a
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good free class we can drop in the comments.
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But here, there should have been bollards out front or large
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rocks or trees. There should have been something
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that prevented the driving directly into the building.
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That's a failure of a security checkpoint.
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Do you feel like should pastors be trained in security and know
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how to use a firearm and not not do violence but know how to
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protect the flock? Well, yeah, I mean in a lot of
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rural areas, the churches are small, you know, the fifty 6070
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people. And so if there is an issue,
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usually the pastor is solo staff in a lot of churches.
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So it's not like he can have his head of security do the job.
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So he needs to, he needs to know what the plan is.
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He needs to. Is it a pastor's job to
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literally guard the flock? It is, yeah.
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So a shepherd is to care for the sheep and fight the wolves.
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You know, we've talked about it a lot.
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The the term shepherd has kind of been abused within soft
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evangelicalism. It really is a cowboy.
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Anybody you're like, well, they live out on the range and
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they're with the animals and they make sure to feed the flock
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and then they fight off the predators.
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You're like, oh, well, that's a cowboy.
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And so a pastor should be more of a cowboy.
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And a lot of the time too, that when issues come to the Church
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of safety, it's usually domestic related.
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Some guys beating his girlfriend, wife, whatever, she
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comes to the church for help, you know, rightly so.
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He's a he's a dirtbag of a human being and then the church
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supports her and then he shows up at the church to get
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vengeance. And so sometimes it's terrorist
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attacks, sometimes it's domestic issues that spill over into the
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church. And so even if you're like,
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we're we're in, you know, a rural area and we're a bunch of
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rednecks, we don't have terrorist threats.
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You still, you still have risk. And some people are demon
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possessed, some people have mental illness.
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There's all kinds of issues. So regardless of your size or
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stature as a pastor you should be doing training due diligence
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if. You're in America, you should
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carry and and you should have a plan for your congregation when
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they assemble. I mean, even if it's a volunteer
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security staff, they should be doing their job.
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What if somebody walks in, they're drunk, they're high,
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they've got mental illness, you know, they're, they may not be
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safe around women and children. And, and so the key is what
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we've done as a church, we've, we've created an environment
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where we're trying to make it welcoming to the least healthy
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people like, well, how does the transgender person feel?
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I don't care. How does the heterosexual 8 year
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old boy feel when the tranny walks into his Sunday school
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class? That's what I care about.
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And so church should first and foremost be for the people who
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are the most healthy, the most godly, the most sane.
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And then if other people want to come and they want to get
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involved, they need to repent and stop being crazy and
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unhealthy and insane. And if they can't, then they
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either need to repent or at some point they need to leave.
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But creating a culture that sort of continually appeals to the
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least healthy people, eventually it repels the most healthy
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people, which is usually strong heterosexual alpha males.
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And so this is what we're getting in the church.
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We're getting people that are really unwell that are, that are
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dominating the culture of a lot of churches in the name of being
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hospitable, but it's not hospitable to those who are
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well. Yeah, yeah.
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You mentioned the war behind the wars earlier, and it does feel
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like there is a spiritual aspect to what's happening, what we're
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seeing in America. I hadn't thought about it till
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we started talking, but there does seem to even be a little
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bit of protection God's putting over where these mass killing
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events don't turn into mass killing events.
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But it, but it's giving us time to prepare a pair.
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I mean, but it's always, it's, it's not always, but it's, it's
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often from Islam. And so the only guaranteed way
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to get into heaven if you just die, Allah flips the coin is you
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die a martyr, you know, doing jihad and then you automatically
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get to go to heaven and you get your 72 versions and you live in
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a Bravo forever. And so that encourages violence,
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and it encourages men who really don't have much to live for in
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this life to cash it all in and hit the eternal jackpot.
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Yeah, I lost my brother. I'm.
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I'm a victim. I hate this nation I'm a part
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of. Let me go drive a truck into a
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preschool. And then I can go to heaven and
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get 72 virgins who after I, you know, sleep with them, they
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return to being virgins for the rest of eternity.
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And it's like, well, that encourages that kind of
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behavior. So people are very naive if they
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think that Islam is a religion of tolerance, peace, Co
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acceptance and cooperation. It's not, it's a it's a religion
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of violence and domination. And once it is in power, there
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is not freedom and it does not favor women, It does not favor
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Christians. That's for danger.
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And it absolutely is anti-Semitic. 100 percent, 100%.
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And I want to pivot the conversation a little bit to
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something you talk about often, which is in recent weeks you've
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talked about often we're we're bombing a country that.
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That has Islamic leaders. Islamic leaders and then we're
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voting for it here while it's literally attacking our women,
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children and churches and wanted to roll a clip of our favorite
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Muslim mayor. Oh my gosh, in New York as he
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said, Islam would have nothing to do with his term his his
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leadership. So this is 6 weeks into his
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leadership. We'll make some of that a moment
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where you're asking yourself how you can reconnect to growing up
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with being taught. So just separation in church and
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state for Christians? Yes, this is what you hear all
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the time. Is white Christian nationalism
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is a problem. What about brand?
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You know, brown Islamic nationalism?
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That's not a problem. It's literally trying to blow up
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the country and kill our children.
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Yeah, I. Mean it's So what?
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What you've got here is like you've got when when pastors go
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to speak at a Pentagon prayer breakfast with Pete Hagseth or
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prayer meeting, it is uprising in the news.
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It's very controversial. So and so shouldn't be there.
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This barely got any coverage. This doesn't get any coverage
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because the left covers for that, which is deconstructing
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the right and this is a deconstruction of the right.
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And so, but if you're, if you're a Christian, you look at this,
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you're like, how is this not spiritual warfare?
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We've got prayer rugs during Ramadan is what I'm guessing the
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timing is. And we've got the mayor leading
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Islamic prayer inviting in a demon God.
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And he, he swore his oath of office on the Quran, meaning his
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highest allegiance is to the Quran and the demon God Allah.
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I mean, it was a demon who visited Muhammad and gave him
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the religion. And so how is this not spiritual
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warfare? But what's wild about it, you'll
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see those who are sort of soft, soft, woke Christians, they just
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always punch to the right. So whatever Trump is doing this
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week, they never punch to the left.
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They're not. There is no outcry.
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You know, there's going to be nothing from from the
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evangelical leaders saying, hey, this, this is concerning.
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Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he but Pastor
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Mark, I mean, he, he said he wasn't going to bring Islam into
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the to the office. Is he lying?
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Yeah, well so one of the principles depending upon your
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Islamic scholar is something called Takia.
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Our friends of the Cedras talked about it and I researched it and
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that is for the furtherance of Islam.
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You can lie to a non-muslim. Might he might have lied.
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Yeah. And so you're like, well, they
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said it's like, well, yeah. But their religion allows them
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to lie depending upon what scholar they follow, if it
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advances their cause. And so why would you believe
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anything that they say? Now our our God says, you know,
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life is sacred, thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not lie.
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And so it's up there. So.
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Somebody is consistent with their Christian worldview,
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they're telling the truth and they're not terrorists bombing
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other religions. If they're consistent with their
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worldview, they will lie and do violence.
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So the people that are doing these kinds of things, they're
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not acting against their faith, they're acting in accordance
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with it. Yeah, and I think it feels like
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a lot of people are incredibly deceived.
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It is getting clearer and clearer.
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A number of people are saying the midterms are going to be
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decided on this issue. But two people in your church,
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they're they're kids or brother. It's a kid and a brother just
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started dating Muslim women. Two different situations I've
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heard about in the last two weeks.
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I think there's a lot of deceived young Muslims that
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don't understand what their faith actually represents.
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If I was a Christian and I started seeing Christians do
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these acts of violence, I would question Christianity.
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I just watched a podcast and there was a gal, she was a
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Muslim and very, very well known podcast and she started arguing
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with the host saying that Islam is the most feminist religion in
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the world. I I think we have a generation
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of Muslims that are completely deceived and confused and then
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some evil people leading them. What would you tell to the young
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Muslim woman about Islam? Is, is this a religion that they
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should be a part of? Should that should they get out
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just. Go study a nation like
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Afghanistan and just look at what women can and cannot do and
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ask yourself if that's progress or regress.
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I mean, don't just look at the ideas, look at the outcome.
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It's like communism. Communism works on paper.
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Then you go to a communist country and you're like, this
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ain't working right. So, so just go investigate the
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reality. Talk to somebody who is
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immigrated legally to the country from Iran, from Iraq,
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from Afghanistan, from North African Islamic communities.
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If a woman isn't wearing what she's supposed to wear, the
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morality of peace police will beat her.
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Yeah. Like what?
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What? What's really wild too Lenin is
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like if a if a if a if a mega Christian drove a truck into a
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mosque and blew it up #1 Christians would denounce it.
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Oh, very quickly. But I can't find any imam.
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I can't find any Muslim leader who's saying, you know, we're
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against this. It's it's a wild constant hall
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pass. I mean, we keep having terror
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attacks from Muslims and we don't have Muslim leaders
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saying, please stop. We oppose this.
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This is a moral wrong. It's silence.
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But when you're when you're stupid and you think that DEI is
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a good idea, it means, you know, diversity, equity, inclusion is
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we need everybody represented. That's the worst idea possible.
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Terrorists, jihadists, I mean, pedophiles, pedophiles, cartel
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leaders. I mean, I mean, that's what we
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did in the last administration. Like, please bring your fentanyl
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and your sex trafficking and your terrorist cell into our
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country because we want to make sure that everybody's included.
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Why? Yeah, what about people that are
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healthy and contribute? I mean, that should be the
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aspiration of any civilization that wants to exist. 100% and in
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our, in our last couple of minutes on this segment, you
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have a couple talks you're really excited about the next
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two weeks, the Four Horsemen of the coming apocalypse.
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Yeah, so I'm call it the Four Horsemen.
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I'm going to do it at real men. It'll be over 2 weeks.
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The 1st 2 are, and I believe they go sequentially, feminism,
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you know, eradicated marriage. I mean you're looking at no
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fault divorce, you're looking at sexual revolution, you're
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looking at birth control, you're looking at abortion.
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Feminism. Then it goes to transgenderism.
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When you eradicate the differences between men and
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women now you end up with sexual confusion, perversion,
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addiction, mental health, feminism, transgenderism,
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socialism, And what you're doing with feminism and
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transgenderism, you're really trying to take away any sense of
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family and purpose from strong men.
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If there's any still standing, socialism seeks to weaken those
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men by taking their wealth, maybe even through taxes.
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And you know, like cities like Seattle, just they're looking in
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the state of Washington at 9% income tax.
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I mean, that means if you make money, we're just going to start
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taking 9% more while we're taking your property taxes and
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jacking them up. Meaning if you are an able
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bodied heterosexual male working, we're going to rob you
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and so. Anything happened in California
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with the mansion tax? They all the sudden is I think 5
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or 10% if you're wealthy and you sell your house, the government
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just takes 510% of this $10 million house, $20 million.
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So all of a sudden the values just dropped and.
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Everybody moves so it goes feminism, transgenderism,
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socialism, and then what comes is is long because as men are
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weakened and family is weakened, which is the cornerstone of any
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civilization, Islam comes in with strong men.
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They're their replacement rate for population is 3.1.
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They have 4 wives. Yeah, well, and in addition, the
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average age of the average Muslim is 32 in America.
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The average age of the average evangelical in America is 52.
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Oh gosh. So you just you, you start to
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look at the future and you're like, OK, they're younger and
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they're having a lot of kids. We're old and not having kids if
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we love Jesus. Give it 2 generations and the
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call to prayer is in all major U.S. cities.
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Like what they believe is disgusting, diabolical and
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demonic. But it appeals to young men, red
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pill men because it's like anger.
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It's anger and it's animalistic. It is Islam and the red pill
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movement are not that far apart. It's men.
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You be your true self and sleep with as many women as you can
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and have as many children as you can.
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Domineering over. Women are worth half of us like
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the red pill movement and Islam are not horribly dissimilar.
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Now they treat women. No, and it's just it's angry
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guys who don't want to put in the hard work of being humble
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and serving their God, their church, their family.
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I mean the the average Muslim too.
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I said this in the sermon this weekend.
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The average Muslim in America out gives the average
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evangelical. And they're far poorer.
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Far poorer. So the poorest religious group
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are Muslims. They give, I think it's an
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average of $3240 a year. The average of angelical just
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gives over $2500 a year. The average Muslim, according to
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if memory serves me correct. And the Pew Research was like
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they volunteer 112 hours a year. The average of angelical it's
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like 52. So the Muslims are serving more,
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they are giving more, they are breeding more.
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And, and Christians don't understand that it this is the
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long play. This is how Egypt felt.
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This is how Turkey felt. This is how nations in North
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Africa felt. This is the game plan.
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Well, we've softened the gospel. We've softened Christianity.
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We've pulled the punches out of the Bible and now nobody wants
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to follow it. It's not a gospel worth
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following when liberal Christianity has taken it over
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and changed the narrative. Men aren't excited about it.
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It's not the gospel Charlie Kirk preached.
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No, no it's not. You know, fight evil, tell
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truth, dismantle lies, build something, get married, start a
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family, start a business, start. A of everything you just said
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it's. Yeah, it's literally that's
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where soft woke and I would say evangelicalism is possibly
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altogether gone because it's not fully woke.
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It's soft woke meaning it won't fight for anything that matters
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and, and, and then the leaders avoid conflict and controversy.
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And so then if there's anybody who is a nationalist and does
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love their country, they're automatically dismissed as, you
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know, being against the Bible. And so it's this sort of white
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knight virtue rioting, sort of smarmy academic Christianity
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that isn't dealing with people in reality.
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They're they're not shepherding flocks.
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They're not dealing with people. I mean I won't say too many
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details, but I've got a few women in my church, our church,
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that did meet Jesus and their husbands are Muslim.
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It's hell on earth. Well, they can.
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They can kill their wives. Right.
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It is, it is intimidation, it is threats, it is beatings, it is
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restraining orders. It is horrifying.
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And children are in the middle. So as a pastor on the front
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lines, you're like, I'm dealing with people that are dealing
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You know, and it's a capital offense for you to be helping
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out of Islam is a capital offense.
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Like, it's wild. Yeah.
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Wildly oppressive to women. Exactly.
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We love you, we thank you, and I appreciate you allowing me to
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help you learn God's Word. Wanted to talk about a woman
24:30
that is not oppressed. We, we, we did a segment a while
24:33
back on Jelly Roll and his conversion just how cool it is.
24:38
Last week we talked about Shia LaBeouf and just kind of, he
24:41
called himself a dirty Christian.
24:43
And our church is full of those guys and we love them.
24:46
And that's, that's, that's the genuine Christianity that and
24:49
it's, and it's cool. And we, we're seeing glimpses of
24:51
that in our culture and we want to highlight that on the Mark
24:54
Driscoll show and then talk about it.
24:55
So this is Jelly Roll's wife, Bunny XO is her name, or Alicia
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Deford. But you were a runaway, a
25:06
shoplifter, you would steal clothing.
25:09
You would you were a stripper, you were an addict, you were
25:12
addicted to drugs. It was you feel like you would
25:15
those those you would have been involved in those things if
25:19
you'd grow up somewhere else like Ohio or something like
25:22
that. I think trauma doesn't
25:24
discriminate. And I think writing this book
25:27
has showed me and taught me that there are so many of us that are
25:30
literally generational curse Breakers and we have all been
25:35
affected by trauma that we never even asked for.
25:38
And writing this book was just such a cathartic journey for me.
25:42
And just watching how it has resonated with so many people, I
25:46
just feel like, you know, trauma and just everything that people
25:51
go through that mess becomes a message and the tests become a
25:54
testimony. And that's what I use this book
25:56
for. Very cool.
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Let me give you a little bit of the historic timeline here.
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So she met Jelly Roll 2015. They got married in 2016.
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She was an escort and on only Fans this whole time, from 2016
26:10
till 2020 they were married and she was an escort, a high paid
26:15
escort. She stopped that in 2020, 2023
26:19
she left only fans, so she been doing only fans while they're
26:23
married. 2024 she left witchcraft.
26:26
She was a witch, she was part of a coven.
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And then 2025 she gets saved. 2026 that that season, her life,
26:35
they did announce all that stuff.
26:36
Get saved. Both of them.
26:38
You start seeing that, the glimpses of that, which is
26:41
really cool. They're trying to have a baby,
26:43
so they're doing IVF and that really reignited their faith.
26:46
She comes from a kind of an abusive Pentecostal upbringing,
26:51
and so she had a lot of hurt and trauma that led her to be
26:54
homeless when she was 14 and then fall into this lifestyle.
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So yeah. What do you think of it all?
26:59
Fashion, Mark, that's a wild timeline.
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Wild. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's a
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beautiful story of the grace of God.
27:07
And you don't want anyone to go through what she's gone through,
27:11
but the courage to tell her testimony with honesty and with
27:16
humility. And so she said, you know, we're
27:18
baby Christians. We're not trying to set an
27:21
example. We're not ready to teach people.
27:23
I appreciate that this is just their testimony.
27:25
One of the things that happens with people who have a platform
27:27
are famous, they say they meet Jesus and we rush them into a
27:31
teaching or an influence or a leadership position, like
27:33
they're not ready for that. And so whoever is pastoring this
27:37
couple and helping them seems to be doing a really good job.
27:39
And I, I, and the fact we don't know who it is means they're
27:43
humble and not trying to build their platform.
27:45
They're just trying to help a couple that's coming out of
27:47
toys. So whoever the pastor is, I'm
27:49
assuming behind the scenes, keep doing what you're doing.
27:52
So with this woman, though, her testimony is so powerful and
27:58
could be so incredibly helpful. So let me let me pivot in to put
28:01
the kind of pastor and dad had on.
28:03
So I grew up. I grew up in a neighborhood that
28:06
was next to an airport and it was unincorporated, meaning they
28:09
didn't have a police force. So now you and it's an
28:13
International Airport. So there was strip clubs
28:15
multiple within walking distance of my neighborhood.
28:18
The gals that I went to school when they hit age, they work
28:22
there. And so these are like my buddies
28:25
sisters or the strippers and the escorts.
28:27
There's gals walking up and down.
28:29
It was called Pacific Hwy. S Hwy. 99 turning trucks getting
28:33
picked up because it's, it's an airport.
28:34
So it's all hotels. So people fly in and the
28:38
prostitutes are everywhere. Well, one of my first jobs, I'm
28:40
a shuttle driver driving back and forth from the airport.
28:44
And so at night all the prostitutes come out.
28:47
And so I'm picking up dropping off people at restaurants or
28:50
airport or car rentals or whatever.
28:53
And the gals that are on the side of the road getting picked
28:55
up are in my they're in my school.
28:58
It's. Wild.
28:59
Like I never forget I was in my 56 Chevy and I was parked at a
29:03
stoplight going to take a, a left and somebody knocked on my
29:06
right window, startled me and I turned around.
29:10
It was a gal that sat next to me in my sociology class turning
29:13
tricks and she got embarrassed when she recognized it was me.
29:16
I, I was just, I was taking a left the next day.
29:20
I'm at school and she sits next to me and she was like 15 or 16.
29:26
And so this is the world that I, I grew up in hourly rape,
29:30
massage parlors, strip clubs, all of that.
29:33
And what I know is that the gals that I knew that were involved
29:38
in those things, they came from profound Trump.
29:42
Most of them had no father. If the father was around, he was
29:45
very abusive. Often times, the mother had had
29:49
a parade of boyfriends coming through the house.
29:51
And what those men did to those girls is unspeakable and
29:55
unconscionable. And so there's brokenness and
29:58
trauma in neighborhoods like that.
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She grew up in Vegas. It's similar to where I grew up.
30:02
There aren't good, godly, strong men.
30:05
There aren't husbands and fathers.
30:08
There are the worst men coming in to take advantage of the most
30:11
vulnerable women. And so her life is a cycle of
30:15
trauma and then payment and then self medication, and then more
30:22
trauma and then payment and self medication.
30:26
And so the payment for the prostitution and the escorting
30:29
and such, it just pays for the self medication to try and
30:33
endure the trauma. And so once anyone, but
30:36
especially a young woman gets into this cycle, I mean, unless
30:40
Jesus just shows up and says, OK, you're adopted now, you got
30:43
a new father. You know, you're a new creation.
30:46
Old things have passed away. All things have become new.
30:48
Unless that happens. I mean, she is.
30:50
She is headed toward an early grave, either through addiction,
30:54
murder or suicide. Yeah, and we see it in the Bible
30:58
where Jesus actually meets with women like this.
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The woman at the well. The Samaritan woman like and and
31:03
the really cool I think parallel to her is meets the woman of the
31:08
well offers her living water. She repents, meets Jesus, and
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then he says go, go tell everyone.
31:14
And she does. She goes tell your.
31:15
Story don't teach, tell. Yeah, so she's you bring that's
31:19
a really good that's a really good analogy is yeah.
31:23
She goes and tells her testimony and the and the Samaritans as a
31:26
people, they started out of sexual perversion, which is why
31:30
they were rejected by the Jews. These are all the, to quote Shia
31:32
LaBeouf, these are all The Dirty, you know, The Dirty
31:35
believers are in Samaria. And so and so, yeah, she goes
31:39
back and there's a mass revival because people are like, OK,
31:42
there is a God who will forgive us, but there's also a God that
31:46
will cleanse us. So this, this is really where I
31:47
would, I think it, this could be so helpful, especially to women.
31:52
And so talk to the young girl who's doing Only Fans selling
31:56
her body online. She's 18 to 23, the age of your
31:59
daughters. Like can Jesus save them?
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He absolutely can, but there will need to be repentance.
32:06
And so you know, the gospel is repent of sin and trust in
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Christ. And so Jesus doesn't just
32:12
forgive you. He then is the Lord over your
32:16
life and he has authority over everything you say and do.
32:19
And so you're under his dominion.
32:21
But yes, and so like I've done some interesting things, like
32:25
years ago, I had AI had a, a large college ministry that
32:30
morphed into a church next to a campus.
32:32
And I knew that all the guys in the frats were struggling with
32:35
porn. So I brought I, I, I hosted a
32:38
porn star night. I rented out a massive theater
32:42
and I invited all the frat guys and I brought in a gal who was a
32:45
well known porn star that had met Jesus and it gotten saved.
32:49
And I interviewed her for like an hour or two on the stage
32:53
because I wanted all the guys to know it's a human being.
32:55
And once you hear what she's been through, if, if you have a
32:59
functional conscience, you're not going to want to monetize
33:03
her trauma, you're going to want to live with self-control.
33:06
And so she told the story of her life and it was devastating.
33:10
I mean, I had, I had frac guys getting up and leaving in tears
33:13
because they couldn't handle the pain of her trauma story.
33:17
And it's like we're dealing with human beings and, and so the the
33:21
good news is that not only does Jesus forgive, he also cleanses.
33:27
And I didn't really fully understand this until my wife
33:32
and I had been married for some years and she started telling me
33:36
some of the details of a relationship that she had prior
33:39
to me. I met her when I was 17 and I
33:42
just started crying. She was folding the laundry and
33:45
I realized my wife was a sexual assault trauma victim repeatedly
33:49
from a, a horrible young man. And I'm, I'm weeping and my wife
33:55
is like, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have brought it up.
33:56
I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Like this is catastrophic.
33:59
This is crisis. And so she went through a lot of
34:03
trauma therapy and we started really studying and researching
34:06
together and it led me to a section of the Bible, our
34:10
doctrine in the Bible called expiation, EXPIATION.
34:15
And that is that Jesus cleanses us because what happens with,
34:21
let's say, women that are assault victims, the first thing
34:23
that happens after they're assaulted, they go take a shower
34:26
because they feel defiled. That's the language of the
34:29
Bible. It's the first sexual assault
34:32
victim, if memory serves me correct, is a woman named Dinah,
34:34
I think in Genesis 34. And it says that she was
34:38
defiled. And So what happens when a woman
34:41
is traumatized, abused, often times at a young age, is when it
34:45
horrifically starts, usually by a father, a grandfather, an
34:50
older authority figure who is supposed to be a protector, and
34:53
that as a husband and a father. Like this morning.
34:57
I mean, before I was here, I was with my granddaughter, you know,
35:01
Hey, Bob. And also, it's like thinking
35:03
that men in those positions would demonically break and
35:09
abuse daughters, granddaughters, nieces.
35:13
I mean, it is, it is the most horrifying thing as a man that
35:17
you probably can conceive of. You know that.
35:20
And so for those women that are defiled, they just have this
35:24
sense of shame and guilt and brokenness.
35:28
And even if they know they're forgiven, they have a hard time
35:30
believing that they're clean, that they're new.
35:34
And so the doctrine of expiation in the Bible, something has
35:36
started really researching to share with my wife.
35:40
And then as my wife started sharing her story, I started
35:43
getting invited to teach the doctrine of expiation to sexual
35:47
assault women's groups, to battered women's shelters.
35:51
I've been in some wild, horrific places with some women that have
35:56
been through unspeakable things. And this is a lot of the private
36:00
side of my ministry over the years.
36:03
And it's teaching them as a man in authority what a man should
36:09
be and do and what Jesus has done to to forgive and cleanse
36:13
what the wrong men have done. And so when Jesus died on the
36:16
cross, he didn't just forgive us, he made us clean.
36:21
And so like first John says, you know, if we walk in the light
36:24
and confess our sins to one another, he forgives us our sins
36:28
and he cleanses us from all unrighteousness.
36:32
There's a picture in Zechariah, I think it's 3 that all our
36:35
filth goes to Jesus and we put on his white robes of
36:39
righteousness were clean. And This is why in Revelation,
36:45
when Jesus returns, the bride wears white, not because she's
36:51
pure, but because she's forgiven and made pure.
36:54
And when, when they would go to worship God at the temple, they
36:58
would stop at the base of the mountain, the people would
37:00
cleanse themselves and then they would put on white and they
37:04
would ascend the mountain and they would sing the Psalms of
37:06
ascent. And you would see these people
37:09
going up to worship God and you're like, they're all wearing
37:11
white because God's made them clean.
37:15
And once, once an assault trauma victim knows that it literally
37:19
re it, it, it reorients their entire identity.
37:25
I'm not broken, I'm healed, I'm not dirty, I'm clean, I'm not
37:29
defiled. I'm a daughter.
37:32
And once that happens, it just it unburdens.
37:35
And when she talks about generational curses, those get
37:38
broken. And so, so like I always tell
37:44
the the women that have either done some bad things or had some
37:47
bad things done to them, they're like, can I wear white on my
37:49
wedding day? This is the pastoral question
37:51
you get, and I'm like, Jesus has made you clean and when you
37:54
stand before him, you'll be wearing white.
37:56
So wear white on your wedding day.
37:58
And so that's what she's learning.
38:02
And once she's able to continue, you know, study the Bible and
38:07
explain this in her testimony. This could be so profoundly
38:12
helpful to a whole generation of women.
38:15
It it could be remarkably help. And and she's so far, she's off
38:20
to a great start. Yeah, and telling your stories
38:22
is beautiful. And I think we see multiple
38:24
times in the Bible where Jesus honors prostitutes, the woman
38:28
who came and washed his feet and whale and the Pharisees were
38:32
like, this is disgusting. And he honors them over
38:35
everyone. Well, they, they're they're
38:37
charged against him. You know, he, he hangs out with
38:40
drunkards and gluttons and sinners.
38:42
It's like, yeah. But the good news about, see,
38:44
this is where religion is different than redemption and
38:46
religion. To be the holy person, you need
38:49
to stay away from The Dirty people.
38:51
And what Jesus does is shocking because he, he walks with dirty
38:57
people. They don't make him dirty.
38:59
He makes them clean. And then the, the religious
39:03
people are like, you can't go near them.
39:04
They'll make your, you dirty. He's like, no, no, no, I'll make
39:07
them clean. That's the beauty of what Jesus
39:10
does. It's incredible.
39:11
And we see him go out of his way time after time and he calls it
39:14
out and he honors it. And I think there is so much
39:17
help for this young generation, a young woman, that man, you
39:20
don't know what you're doing when you put your body online
39:23
and you make these mistakes. But Jesus loves you, and there
39:26
is redemption and there's healing, and there's a
39:30
relationship with Him. And once that's healed, they'll
39:33
find a good man that loves them. Yeah.
39:35
I mean, ultimately, at the end of the day, what you're doing,
39:37
you're taking your abuse and trauma and you're turning it
39:39
into your identity and your career.
39:42
Let's reset that. Let's make forgiveness and
39:44
cleansing your identity, and then let's architect a different
39:47
life because now you're a daughter and you're a different
39:50
person. So good, so good, and at one
39:55
point, Jesus, this will help us transition to our next or pivot
39:58
to our next. Use the word transition.
40:00
We don't say that, but well. You can with this.
40:02
Guy. Yeah, yeah, we sure can.
40:03
Yeah. Yeah.
40:04
Jesus makes the point very clearly to the chief priests and
40:08
elders. Truly, I tell you, the tax
40:10
collectors and the prostitutes are entering the Kingdom of God
40:13
ahead of you. Yeah.
40:14
And it's guys like this. So yeah, let's roll, roll that
40:18
tape. Christ is the immigrant deported
40:22
without due process. Christ is the senior deprived of
40:27
their Social Security benefits. Christ, is the protester
40:31
kidnapped? In an unmarked vehicle by
40:34
plainclothes officers. He is.
40:37
He is rushing his way to be blasphemer in chief.
40:42
That's blasphemy. He is a blasphemer and he he
40:46
went to seminary, we talked about it.
40:48
He was in a liberal Presbyterian PCUSA denomination.
40:53
He quotes the Bible, misquotes it just like Satan does.
40:56
People are like he knows the Bible.
40:57
So actually for Sheridan knows the Bible very well.
41:00
When he shows up to temp Jesus, Luke for Matthew for he just
41:04
starts quoting the Old Testament, Pentateuch.
41:07
You can know the Bible and not know the Lord.
41:09
Satan knows the Bible, doesn't know, doesn't love the Lord,
41:11
doesn't serve the Lord, and so he is particularly wicked and
41:16
deceptive and calculated. He comes off as nice and
41:20
compassionate and tolerant, comes off as astute academic,
41:24
well read is quoting Gnostic tax, which is horrifying.
41:29
But this is what a false teacher looks like.
41:31
When Jesus warns against false teachers and wolves, this is
41:35
exactly what he's talking about. And what's wild is, you know,
41:41
the soft, woke evangelical center every day will punch to
41:44
the right on Trump and Christian nationalism and headset doing,
41:48
you know, prayer meetings in the Pentagon.
41:50
They're not punching to the left saying, hey, this is an
41:53
apostate, this is a false teacher, this is a counterfeit.
41:57
And this is trying to replace Christ with another Jesus, to
42:04
quote Paul in his letter to the Corinthians.
42:07
This is a different Jesus than the one that we have.
42:10
So anytime we change Jesus or we change Scripture, we're not
42:14
following the Jesus of the Bible anymore.
42:17
I mean, what's really wild is every religion is trying to get
42:21
Jesus on their team because he's the most significant,
42:24
influential person in history of the world.
42:27
So the Muslims like, oh, he's on our team.
42:28
He's a prophet. Like, no, he's not.
42:30
He's not. He's God and he's the Son of
42:32
God. And you don't believe that he
42:33
died on the cross and you don't believe that, you know.
42:36
And so, yeah, the Hindus, well, he's a, he's an ascended master
42:39
of a higher level of consciousness.
42:40
No, he's not that. So everybody's trying to get
42:43
some form of Jesus on their team.
42:46
But Paul says, you know, as Eve was deceived, I'm concerned that
42:50
you have adopted a different Jesus as God.
42:53
He tells the Corinthians so you can have the name Jesus and talk
42:56
about somebody completely different.
42:58
I'll give you an example of years ago, I was doing a
43:00
deliverance with somebody that was manifesting and, and I
43:04
asked, I said so, So the spirit manifested in this woman.
43:08
Her voice changed to a man and it was just a wild time.
43:11
And I said, who are you? And they said, I'm, I'm Jesus.
43:15
And I was like, oh, you know, by the authority of Jesus Christ,
43:18
you know, I'm commanding you to he's commanding you to speak
43:22
truth that will stand before the white throne judgment.
43:25
Are you the Jesus of Nazareth, born of Mary?
43:27
And a cackle came out and the spirit said, no, not that Jesus,
43:31
like a demon can take the name Jesus for sure.
43:34
And because this woman, she kept telling me she's like, well, I
43:37
hear these things and I see these things and I do these
43:39
things, but I know it's good because it's from Jesus Jesus.
43:42
And I'm like the. Right, Jesus.
43:44
A demon. I mean, I can go to Home Depot
43:45
right now and meet a guy named Jesus, you know?
43:47
I mean, just because the name Jesus is being used doesn't mean
43:50
it's the Son of God, born of Mary, raised from the dead.
43:54
Yeah, and he's twisting Matthew 25, Speaking of the least of
43:57
these and calling Jesus an undocumented immigrant.
44:02
Like what are your thoughts on immigration and the Bible and
44:05
what it has to say about border walls and.
44:08
Well, yeah, I mean, God comes to the earth as a man, and so to
44:12
make that an immigration issue, his family is being persecuted.
44:15
So they relocate to Egypt so that the baby Jesus is not
44:19
murdered by the government. And this guy is actually
44:23
advocating that the government murder babies.
44:25
Yeah, it's wild. So it's like, well, the reason
44:28
they had to move is because the government was killing the
44:30
babies. And you ran on the platform that
44:32
the government needs to be killing the babies.
44:35
It's wild. It's.
44:37
Are we going to see more of this?
44:38
This well, this is this is deconstructionism.
44:41
This is the I was part of the early emerging church, which was
44:44
generation one point O of deconstructionism.
44:47
I didn't agree with any of it. But also too, I mean, where are
44:51
the pastors who are saying, Hey, false teaching?
44:54
Where are the Christian platforms that are doing a deep,
44:58
I mean, the the Christian platforms right now that are
44:59
doing, you know, a daily attack on Donald Trump and Christian
45:05
nationalism? You know, my question is why is
45:08
there radio silence on a clearly apostate, counterfeit false
45:13
teacher now holding a political office?
45:16
And why do you rage when those who are conservative are
45:20
involved in politics, but somebody who is literally an
45:23
apostate in the pulpit exercising spiritual authority,
45:27
quoting the Bible and lying and that doesn't bother you?
45:31
And that kind of commingling of church and state is a non issue.
45:34
I mean, the hypocrisy is breath. Taking it, it is breathtaking.
45:38
And it, it, it is so easy as a Sunday, a tender Christian, like
45:43
somebody that's not real deep in their faith to hear that.
45:46
And oh, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
45:48
Yeah. Yeah, obviously Jesus would
45:51
align with that. He said, love your neighbor,
45:53
right? Like it.
45:54
It is easy to twist the gospel off of a couple verses and
45:58
create a different Jesus. Megan Basham did an article this
46:02
week. I think they have a screenshot
46:04
of that to throw up. But they always forget the two
46:07
line on the term is Jesus first said love God, then love your
46:10
neighbor. And so the first duty is not
46:13
love neighbor, the first duty is love God.
46:14
That's exactly what Jesus said. And so if you are saying and
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doing things that your neighbor feels are loving and your God
46:21
doesn't, you're actually in violation to like, well, my
46:25
tranny neighbor feels very loved, but your God doesn't.
46:28
And your first responsibility is not to love your neighbor, it's
46:31
to love your God. It's fear to God.
46:34
It's loyalty to God. You, you did a great sermon on
46:37
this a number of weeks ago, but just the lack of fear of God and
46:41
how important is as a Christian actually understand what it
46:43
means to fear God and to fear the Lord It is.
46:47
I think that's one of one of the best things about you is your
46:51
reverent fear of the Lord, and if a pastor doesn't have that,
46:55
you're in dangerous territory. If you don't fear God, you
47:00
should not be teaching the Bible or leading anyone.
47:03
You shouldn't because you're you're you're UN, you're unwell
47:06
and you're unsafe. Yeah, This week, Megan Basham,
47:10
she said pastors, especially Texas pastors, have an
47:13
obligation to call out Talarico's false teaching.
47:16
The problem is a lot of these pastors need to be called out
47:19
first because they're not willing to even get near an
47:21
issue like this or lead their flock, disciple their flock and
47:25
teach their flock out. How do you, how do you discern
47:28
between good and evil when people use Scripture?
47:30
Because that's as you said, Satan and demons will use
47:33
Scripture and so do pastors have an obligation to call this out.
47:38
Especially if and when it comes and effects their flock.
47:43
And so as a pastor, you need to you need to teach your people to
47:49
be discerning and to to have people be discerning.
47:52
You need to give them some examples.
47:55
If you don't give them a, if you give them just principles, the
47:57
average person's like, I don't know how to apply the principle.
47:59
Give me an example. And so, you know, on this one,
48:03
it's like this should be a clear example.
48:05
This could be in the pulpit. This could be in the Church of
48:07
social media. This could be in a class.
48:10
Whatever the case is, the job of the pastor is to help the people
48:14
understand that there's three categories in the Bible, sheep,
48:17
shepherds and wolves. And the shepherd's job is to
48:21
tell the sheep who the wolves are.
48:24
Like that's the job. And if you're like, well, I
48:26
don't talk about issues or name names.
48:28
Your sheep think that's a shepherd.
48:30
You're well, he's, he's got a mic, he went to seminary, he's
48:34
teaching in a church and quoting the Bible.
48:37
The average sheep is like, that's a shepherd.
48:39
No, actually, that's a wolf. And you need to know that.
48:43
And so, and if the pastor doesn't teach the people that
48:46
they freaking hate the people in the same way that, you know, a
48:49
shepherd doesn't teach the sheep there are wolves.
48:54
If the sheep don't know that, then the sheep are destroyed.
48:58
And, and this is what is happening to churches.
49:00
This is why people are having a hard time finding a church.
49:04
This is why the churches is moving South and left and
49:07
evangelicalism. This is why people are
49:10
frustrated because when things happen, their pastor doesn't
49:13
even give them a category, you know, And so these are the,
49:16
these are the soft woke cowards. They're just freaking worthless
49:21
cowards and their hirelings. And it's like if Charlie Kirk
49:25
gets shot and you say nothing. You're not.
49:28
You're not teaching them discernment if you don't teach
49:32
them that a wolf exists and show them how to discern what a wolf
49:35
is. You actually are abusing and
49:39
neglecting your flock in the same way.
49:41
Your dad, right? Your beautiful little boy, you
49:44
teach him. Don't trust everybody.
49:45
No, don't trust most people. Don't.
49:48
Don't be naive. Don't be gullible.
49:49
Don't be vulnerable. There's some bad people out
49:52
there and you need to know that, son.
49:54
A pastor is a spiritual father and the church should be like
49:57
your kids and the goal should be that you keep them from being
50:01
destroyed and harmed. Yeah, we talk about like the
50:04
importance of nobody wins when Christians attack Christians,
50:09
but it's. Not a Christian.
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Yeah, and that's the. Point people will be like you
50:12
can't judge him. Yeah I can.
50:14
He's a non Christian. He's an evil wolf.
50:16
Yeah, just look at his belief. Just look at his belief there.
50:19
He does not believe the Gospel of Jesus.
50:20
Christ. He's using Jesus. 100%, yeah.
50:23
Yeah. Now, in the story, he would be
50:25
Judas. Yeah.
50:26
He's enjoying the platform, the power and, you know, the
50:30
compensation. But no.
50:32
So, you know, at the end of the day, it's like it is not good
50:35
for Christians to publicly attack Christians, but it is
50:38
good to draw a line and say that ain't on one of our guys
50:41
strikes. Paul does this.
50:42
He says Hymenaeus Alexander been handed over to Satan to be
50:46
taught not to blasphemy. There are times that the New
50:48
Testament actually named some people because the sheep are
50:51
like, is that a shepherd or a wolf?
50:53
It's confusing. If you're the average Christian.
50:55
We're, we're, I mean, we're in it all the time, but the average
50:58
Christian doesn't know much. With the brand new believer,
51:01
yeah, maybe somebody's, you know, just a woke Democrat.
51:04
They get saved and they're like, OK, well, I guess this is my I'm
51:08
on his lead. It's like, no, actually, Jesus
51:11
calls these blind guides. Yeah, they're, you know, they
51:14
lead you off a Cliff. Yeah.
51:17
And I was just, I was just in DC with a group of 100 pastors at
51:22
the White House worshipping, praying.
51:24
But the whole call was that pastor should go and actually
51:27
get involved in politics and raise their hand and go be state
51:30
representative, go be City Council, go, go get involved.
51:35
That's not this this. That's actual pastors saying and
51:38
doing something that aligned with biblical values.
51:41
This would be a demonic counterfeit of that. 100% that's
51:43
how it feels. This is the demonic counterfeit
51:45
of a Nehemiah, a Joseph, a Daniel.
51:47
Yep, he's a false prophet. Yeah, that's, and it's
51:50
interesting how much airtime he's getting right now because
51:53
yeah, the, the, the whole, the whole left is like, that's our
51:56
guy. That's our Christian guy.
51:58
And it's like, no, that's a wolf.
51:59
That's an evil wolf and a counterfeit.
52:01
Pete Buddha judges the same way. And at some point they're going
52:03
to try to, I mean, just time stamp this.
52:06
And when he is trending in the polls toward being the
52:08
president, come back and say, I called it because this is this
52:12
is paving the way for a guy like that to try and get a path to
52:15
the White House, a gay apostate guy who claims to be a Christian
52:21
and can use religious jargon. Yeah, that's dangerous,
52:27
sickening, pitting my stomach thinking about it.
52:30
All right. Last segment today, Pastor Mark,
52:32
we're talking about an ex US Senator sued for cheating.
52:36
From Arizona. From Arizona is a former Arizona
52:39
senator Kristen Sinema is being sued under North Carolina's
52:43
alienation of affection law, a home wrecker statute allowing
52:47
spouse to sue a third party for intentionally destroying a
52:50
marriage. Heather Amel, ex-wife of
52:53
Cinema's former security detail member Matthew Amel, alleges
52:59
Cinema knowingly pursued her husband while they were still
53:01
married, engaging in an affair involving romantic messages
53:05
discovered early 2024 physically physical intimacy starting May
53:10
2024 across multiple states, shared outings, gifts and
53:14
funding psychedelic PTSD treatments.
53:18
The couple separated in November 2024 and filed for divorce in
53:21
January 2025. Heather now seeks 20 or $75,000
53:25
in damages. So it's a home wrecker law and
53:29
only 6 states have such laws, some of those being Hawaii,
53:33
Utah, New Mexico, North Carolina, South Dakota and
53:37
Mississippi. At 1.48 states had had such
53:42
statutes on the books. Home wrecker laws?
53:44
I feel like that'd be helpful. Some consequence would be nice.
53:49
Well, yeah, it, I mean, being a pastor, you know, for more than
53:53
three decades, when when two people are married and one is
53:58
trusting the other and then one is violating the covenant, that
54:05
person is they're wrecked and it and and they're broken and it's
54:10
and it's something like this. And so we've got here, you've
54:13
got a woman who's in power, she's manipulating an employee.
54:17
Sounds like he's a veteran with PTSD, which means she is
54:21
seducing him. If this were inverted in a man
54:24
and a woman. Oh yeah, me too.
54:26
I mean, this would be a, this would be a wild news story.
54:30
And the fact that that this is so public for the wife who was
54:37
betrayed is so tragic. I mean, it's when your spouse
54:42
commits adultery on you, it's, it's shameful and horrifying and
54:46
overwhelming and devastating. And when it's in the news cycle
54:50
and somebody who's got a lot of power and they just sort of get
54:54
away with it and dismiss it, it's like you just dropped a
54:57
bomb on her family. And you violate something,
55:01
especially with a security detail, because their whole job
55:03
is to protect and serve. And you you twist that in a guy
55:06
that's been military his whole life to protect and serve me
55:11
personally. Like it no longer is the saying
55:14
to D of the office. It's you twist the intention of
55:17
the man. The man's there for a paycheck.
55:20
And then you're like, well, hey, I'm Jezebel.
55:22
Like, come here. Yeah, come.
55:24
Here and obviously the guy, she's not a victim.
55:26
No, he's not a victim. He should have done the Joseph
55:28
and run for his life for sure what he should have done.
55:31
But yeah, I mean, it makes sense to me that if you have wrecked a
55:34
home and broken a family, you know, especially in when there's
55:38
children involved, yeah, there should be some legal recompense
55:42
of like what they did is not just a sin, it's also a crime.
55:47
It's a crime to blow up a marriage and family and it is a
55:52
crime to decimate a multi generational legacy and then
55:57
just move on. I mean, having been in pastoral
56:00
ministry so long, being in a front row seat for these kinds
56:04
of horrific sins and betrayals, it the person who's the victim,
56:12
the innocent spouse, there's nothing they can do.
56:16
There's, it's just, we'll go get some lawyers and set piles of
56:20
money on fire and whatever's left, we're going to fight over
56:24
it. And then we'll have an awkward,
56:26
you know, shared custody agreement with the kid.
56:29
And if you're the victim, you're like, I didn't do anything, you
56:32
know, like I, I was, I was living up to my vows.
56:35
I was honoring our covenant. I didn't, I didn't cause all of
56:38
this. So that in those situations
56:40
there is a genuine victim. Totally.
56:44
And the pain and the suffering and the shame and the cost, it's
56:47
real. And so I wish every state had a
56:51
home wrecker law. And hopefully it would
56:52
incentivize some people to be like, I'm not going to do that.
56:56
Yeah, it, it feels like we've we've gone from marriage being a
56:59
covenant to a contract. We've talked about that.
57:02
But I mean, look at the sliding scale.
57:04
So Old Testament law, it was treated as a capital offense and
57:07
now we're too. And that was just civil law in
57:11
Israel. And then now we've moved
57:13
towards, OK, there was a law against home wrecking and
57:16
there'd be financial problems if, if, if you, if you did this.
57:21
And then now we've removed those laws, even I mean it the sliding
57:25
scale from you'd get killed for committing adultery to we might
57:30
get a slap on the wrist to no slap on the wrist at all.
57:32
And I'm, I'm watching one of these unfold right now with a
57:35
friend. And it's like, man, the, the
57:37
injustice that around a marriage covenant, it's a covenant.
57:41
It's something like man, the, the, the person is giving
57:45
everything to you and, and you just totally abuse that and step
57:49
outside the marriage and destroy the whole thing.
57:51
And I got to think it makes God angry.
57:54
Oh, it totally doesn't mean the Bible calls it adultery.
57:57
And today in the church, we call it a moral failure.
58:00
Jaywalking is a moral failure. You're sleeping with someone.
58:03
You're not married to is adultery.
58:06
And we got to keep those categories.
58:10
You know, God writes 10 things down and one of them is don't do
58:12
that. So it must be really important.
58:15
And it's a corner. Part of it too is people are
58:17
like, well, nobody's perfect. They fell in love.
58:19
That was like, OK, marriage is the cornerstone for
58:22
civilization. Marriage is the safest, best
58:26
place to put children. And then family becomes the
58:29
cornerstone for church, for government, for all
58:32
institutions. And so if you weaken marriage
58:35
and family, you are undermining civilization.
58:40
And so it's a big deal. We just tend to think because
58:43
we're we're brainwashed and, and and overly committed to
58:47
psychology instead of theology. It's like, well, you know, he
58:50
had PTSD and she was pretty and they were together a lot.
58:53
And we all make mistakes. It's like, no, no, this this is
58:55
this is the crumbling of a public leader.
58:59
I mean, Kristen Cinemas from Arizona, I mean, your job is to
59:03
help create civilization, and your private behavior is
59:06
undermining the cornerstone of civilization.
59:10
That's a big deal. It's a huge deal, but we we, we
59:13
treat it like a, like a. It's a whoops.
59:15
Yeah, interesting moment in a story narrative in a movie.
59:19
And it's just like, Oh yeah, well, that makes sense.
59:22
Bound to happen. Marriages and it and it tells
59:25
young people to not get married, to not believe in the marriage
59:28
covenant, that it's not, it's not an institute that we should
59:31
strive after. Yeah, well, look at this.
59:33
So I don't know the story of the wife, obviously, but let's say
59:37
she was married to him while he's in the military and
59:39
deployed. She is making a lot of
59:41
sacrifice. Huge sacrifice.
59:42
If they have children and she's a single mom when he's deployed,
59:45
that's a whole nother thing. He comes back with PTSD and
59:48
trauma from combat. Well, now she's having to deal
59:52
with a man who is broken her husband and if she's, you know,
59:59
along his, she's at his side and serving through all of this.
1:00:04
And then he gets a job where? He has to.
1:00:07
Travel again. He has to travel again.
1:00:09
And she's like, well, I'm home alone and I'm holding down the
1:00:11
Ford and I'm trusting my husband.
1:00:14
And then this is repeatedly happening where the politician
1:00:17
who is his boss is getting him high and sleeping with him.
1:00:21
I mean, that poor woman. I mean, if that was your sister,
1:00:27
my sister, it'd be like, and there's nothing that we can do.
1:00:31
There's no compensation, there's no verdict.
1:00:35
There's no, this was wrong. There's nothing. $75,000 is not
1:00:39
enough, but it's it's just. $75 simply $1000 doesn't pay the
1:00:42
attorney fees and the counseling sessions to just get through
1:00:46
this. It's, it's, it's to prove a
1:00:48
point. And I, I love that she's doing
1:00:50
it. I think it's great to, to draw
1:00:52
that line and prove that point. Yeah, and it's disgusting.
1:00:56
It's it's really gross. And he's not, he is not the
1:00:59
victim, no, but she definitely is the.
1:01:02
Wife, the wife for sure is. For sure is well, thank you guys
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for tuning in to the Mark Driscoll show.
1:01:09
As we talked about a little bit earlier in the show, socialism,
1:01:13
transgenderism, feminism and Islam, they're taking over our
1:01:17
culture and we have a way we want to fight it.
1:01:20
So check out this video as we close out the show.
1:01:23
Satan and demons can do 365. Days a year, 24 hour shifts.
1:01:32
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and now
1:01:35
entire cities are dominated by demonic mayors worshipping a
1:01:40
counterfeit God. The socialistic mayors are now
1:01:43
governing some of the largest cities in the United States of
1:01:46
America. It's just communism repackaged.
1:01:50
It's failed everywhere. In the days of Elijah, he kept
1:01:54
having to fight with government and politics and also with that
1:01:58
which was demonic and was perverted and was seducing the
1:02:02
nation. And suddenly God revealed to
1:02:04
him, there are 7000 others who have not bent their knee to
1:02:08
bail. It encouraged him and it
1:02:11
strengthened him. And we're asking you to be one
1:02:14
of them. Crisis number one Islam is the
1:02:20
fastest. Growing religion in the world.
1:02:23
It has invaded our nation and now entire cities are dominated
1:02:28
by demonic mares worshipping a counterfeit God named Allah.
1:02:33
This trend has to stop. Crisis #2 The rise of socialism
1:02:39
as socialistic mayors are now governing some of the largest
1:02:43
cities in the United States of America, including New York
1:02:46
City. It's just communism repackaged.
1:02:50
It's failed everywhere and it is a crisis for the nation.
1:02:55
And if you have children or grandchildren, I can't overstate
1:02:58
what a catastrophe it will be if these influences of Islam and
1:03:03
and socialism determined the future of the nation and the
1:03:07
generations. Add to all of that the insanity
1:03:11
of the most progressive, liberal, anti God, anti
1:03:15
marriage, anti life generation of young women in the history of
1:03:19
the western world. And on top of all of that, the
1:03:23
trans cult that just keeps trying to seize and also to
1:03:28
mutilate children. If this doesn't capture your
1:03:32
attention and ignite your frustration, you are not paying
1:03:37
attention. The good news is we are not
1:03:40
ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
1:03:42
It has been, it is, and it always will be the power of God
1:03:47
unleashed to do exactly what God intends for it to do.
1:03:51
We're a Bible teaching church. We are led by courageous
1:03:56
leadership. We do not pull punches.
1:03:59
We will not back down. We have always, always been
1:04:02
first to the fight and loyal to the King and I give you my
1:04:05
promise. As long as there is breath in my
1:04:08
lungs and men part of this ministry, nothing will change.