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LNC With a Twist · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always is the
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  Speaker 1: ever delightful, wonderful friend of mine with Jonathon Stream.
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  Speaker 2: What a twist?
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  Speaker 1: What a what a twist that you're wonderful and my friend.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, let's just be giving some foreshadowing for one
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  Speaker 2: of the many stories we're going to talk about today. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: or trailer, because that's that's the quote they always gave
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  Speaker 2: in Robot Chicken for m Night Shamalan. And we have
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  Speaker 2: a new M Night Shamalan movie trailer to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: But that's that's for later. That's jumping way ahead. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, you got a foreshadow if you want to
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  Speaker 2: reveal a twist and spoiler alert, the twist is there
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  Speaker 2: is no twist.
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  Speaker 1: Okay anyhow, Yeah, we're here.
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  Speaker 2: He was dead the whole time, is what I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to say. He was dead the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: You am I shayam alone?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, Bruce Willis oh sixth sense?
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  Speaker 1: Oh you know, I don't think I've ever watched that
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  Speaker 1: movie all.
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  Speaker 2: The way through. Oh I think I just spoil it
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I knew.
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  Speaker 2: I just I think it's impossible to get through, like
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  Speaker 2: to be like alert and alive in our pop culture
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  Speaker 2: and not know that unless you're just young enough where
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  Speaker 2: you missed that movie, right, Like maybe you were a
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  Speaker 2: little kid when the movie came out and you just
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  Speaker 2: never saw it. Maybe then you would have it would
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  Speaker 2: have passed over your head, you wouldn't know. But otherwise, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm lucky I got to see it before it got
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  Speaker 2: spoiled for me. Honestly, I was. I was actually surprised
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  Speaker 2: in the theater. I'm not ashamed to say it that
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  Speaker 2: that that twist legit took me by surprise because I
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  Speaker 2: did not see it coming, and I know all the
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  Speaker 2: clues were there and I should have known. Like friends
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  Speaker 2: of mine were like, oh I knew, I'm like, good
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  Speaker 2: for you, I didn't you know.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if that's the problem with like m Night
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  Speaker 1: Shamalon's general mo O and why his movies have gotten
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  Speaker 1: less popular is because if you're always expecting a twist,
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  Speaker 1: like the first couple of movies, you didn't necessarily know
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  Speaker 1: there was a twist, and so you went in and
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  Speaker 1: you were surprised, And then after that every movie of his,
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  Speaker 1: you go to Last Airbender aside, you go in anticipating
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  Speaker 1: the twist and trying to figure out what it is
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  Speaker 1: ahead of time. So maybe you just aren't enjoying the ride.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that's part of it. Yeah, And like he
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  Speaker 2: did kind of move away from some of the more
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  Speaker 2: twisty stuff, although like even more more recent films have
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  Speaker 2: had some of those, Like Old definitely has a kind
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  Speaker 2: of a twist. It's a reveal anyway, maybe not so
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  Speaker 2: much a twist as a reveal. And then like even Split,
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  Speaker 2: which you could argue there was nuts again not so
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  Speaker 2: much as a twist as a reveal at the very
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  Speaker 2: end of the movie, which is when you discover, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is in the Unbreakable Universe, right, Like you didn't
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  Speaker 2: know that until the very end.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like that was determined before
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  Speaker 1: the movie even came out. What's like I heard people
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  Speaker 1: that it was a part of the Unbreakable Glass Universe.
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  Speaker 2: See when I heard when I remember that coming out,
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  Speaker 2: I remember that being a big surprise to folks, like literally,
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  Speaker 2: because it's only in the last like thirty seconds of
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  Speaker 2: the movie where you even get that, And so, like,
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  Speaker 2: I guess some people might argue that maybe it could
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  Speaker 2: exist in the same universe, but then arguably so could
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  Speaker 2: a lot of his other movies which don't deal with
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  Speaker 2: like any sort of super heroic stuff or whatever. But
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  Speaker 2: but what do I know? Like, I just know that,
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  Speaker 2: Like again, I didn't realize it was going to be
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  Speaker 2: part of the Unbreakable, which makes me want to go
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  Speaker 2: into Kimmy Schmidt. It just made me. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: just I was, like, I was surprised when I got
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  Speaker 2: to the end. I actually actually really liked that movie too.
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  Speaker 2: But then again, it also you know, it has one
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  Speaker 2: of my girlfriends in it. Oh, which one, Onya Taylor Joy?
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  Speaker 1: Gotcha? Yeah, I saw Unbreakable and I enjoyed it at
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  Speaker 1: the time. You know, it was kind of I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it was pre MCU.
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  Speaker 2: Yes it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, time is Time is.
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  Speaker 2: A flat circle?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh and uh. I enjoyed it, But I never
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  Speaker 1: ended up seeing Glass or Split. I kind of wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: They got mixed reviews, but I know the first one
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  Speaker 1: did too, so and I like some movies that very
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  Speaker 1: like most of the population doesn't enjoy so well.
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  Speaker 2: I would say that Split is really entertaining, and it
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  Speaker 2: gets very tense because you know, you've got some great
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  Speaker 2: actors in that movie, and that really helps the film
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  Speaker 2: a lot. Like the premise itself is a pretty it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty wacky, and some some of the character choices go
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  Speaker 2: real extreme, but they sell it like even as you're
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  Speaker 2: watching it, like you might even laugh when you first
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  Speaker 2: encounter certain of the I mean, you know, it's about
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  Speaker 2: split personality character, Like when you encounter some of those personalities,
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  Speaker 2: you might laugh initially because they're so over the top,
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  Speaker 2: But the performance is so sincere and so committed that
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  Speaker 2: pretty soon you're just like riveted, or at least I was,
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  Speaker 2: so I really enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: James macvoy is very good at that.
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  Speaker 2: He is phenomenal. He's very good, yes, almost as good
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  Speaker 2: as he is at the game Tequila Slaps. You'll have
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  Speaker 2: to look it up on YouTube to learn more about
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  Speaker 2: what that is. So we'll talk more about m Night
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  Speaker 2: a little bit later. Before we do that, though, we
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  Speaker 2: wanted to start off, as we have typically in recent episodes,
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  Speaker 2: talking about stuff that we have seen or experienced that
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  Speaker 2: kind of falls into the geek sphere and Ariel. Now
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  Speaker 2: the listeners at home can't see this, but I can.
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  Speaker 2: Ariel is wearing some merch from a show that she
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  Speaker 2: saw this week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the musical Six about the six wives of Henry
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  Speaker 1: the Eighth came to the is at the Fox currently
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  Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and I saw it a couple of nights ago.
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  Speaker 1: My my dear friends and I all bounded as different wives.
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  Speaker 1: And there were some other people doing that too, which
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  Speaker 1: was really cool. Not as many people dressed up as
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  Speaker 1: they did for Beetle Juice, but there were still some
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  Speaker 1: people and a couple of people in like pretty accurate
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  Speaker 1: costume recreations too, which was amazing to see, but also
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  Speaker 1: like probably not comfortable to sit in in a Fox.
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  Speaker 2: I was just about to ask if you went, if
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  Speaker 2: you went full renfair for your for your stuff, or
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  Speaker 2: if you did something a little more comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: We all did. We all just bounded, So if you're
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  Speaker 1: not familiar with bounding, it's wearing like a kind of
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  Speaker 1: normal outfit, normal ish outfit that evokes the character. So
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  Speaker 1: I wore like I went as Catherine of Aragon, and
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  Speaker 1: she wears like a little like bikini bottom with a
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  Speaker 1: split peplam skirt and fish nets, and that's not really
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  Speaker 1: like I don't necessarily want to have dinner downtown and
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  Speaker 1: then sit in a theater like that all night. So
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  Speaker 1: I wore like black shiny pleather leggings with a gold
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  Speaker 1: tank top, and then I had a black blazer over
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  Speaker 1: top of it that buttoned in the middle, so it
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  Speaker 1: still gave that kind of like v gold peplam look.
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  Speaker 1: And then I had on like a gold chain necklace
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  Speaker 1: and spiky hoop earrings and a spiky headband and like
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  Speaker 1: some gold makeup and accessories and chunky, funky boots. So
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  Speaker 1: it was evocative of the character, but it wasn't a
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  Speaker 1: full on costume.
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  Speaker 2: Right like see for me, I just think back. So
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  Speaker 2: this is this narrow casting again. But at student Days
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  Speaker 2: at the Georgia Renaissance Festival, one of the many little
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  Speaker 2: stage productions that we do as an educational outreach for students,
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  Speaker 2: like this would be during the week as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: on the weekend, and we would have classes from all
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  Speaker 2: over the Southeast come into the Renaissance Festival and we
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  Speaker 2: would do little historical presentations, one of them being the
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  Speaker 2: Wives of Henry the Eighth and so in my mind
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  Speaker 2: when you said bounding instead of bounding, I immediately just
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  Speaker 2: thought of all the actresses I've known who have been
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  Speaker 2: in that production, dressed in their wives of Henry the
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  Speaker 2: Eighth costumes, and thinking that, I mean, it wouldn't be torture,
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  Speaker 2: but it would not be comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I don't think I was ever in that.
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  Speaker 2: I was never a wife really. For some reason, I
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  Speaker 2: thought you were the I thought you were Catherine Howard
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  Speaker 2: and at least one of them.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think I was.
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  Speaker 2: Golly, yeah, I was never in that either. Because it
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  Speaker 2: was a production, it was a little show that only
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  Speaker 2: had a few characters in it. I did help out
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  Speaker 2: a couple times, kind of almost like crew, so I
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  Speaker 2: gotten to see it, but I, uh, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: was really just Henry and then the actors who were
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  Speaker 2: playing the various wives.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe maybe I did, and I'm forgetting it
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  Speaker 1: might have been one of those ones where you just
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  Speaker 1: kind of step up and you don't really do anything.
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  Speaker 1: You're just there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because you would usually on student day, you
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  Speaker 2: would usually do a Shakespeare the presentation, which was much
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  Speaker 2: more involved.
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  Speaker 1: But I did where I did so one of the
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  Speaker 1: actresses who usually played Lady to Winter also did play.
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  Speaker 1: Had had a black and gold dress and did play
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  Speaker 1: I think one of the other wives, and so I
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  Speaker 1: do like I borrowed that dress. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I was filling in for the Winter or if
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  Speaker 1: I was filling in for one of the wives, or
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  Speaker 1: it was for something else, so I could have done it.
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  Speaker 1: I did eleven years of re infest. It's hard, and
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  Speaker 1: it was a long time ago. It's it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: remember everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it all, Well, what did you think of the show?
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  Speaker 1: I also have my own black and gold dress, which
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  Speaker 1: I also never wore as Catherine Farragon, and I did
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  Speaker 1: not I don't fit in it right now, so but
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty and I did the Jesus out of it.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was a really good show. It definitely
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  Speaker 1: benefits from seeing it in person versus watching a slime
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  Speaker 1: tutorial or you know, little clips on on social media
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  Speaker 1: or whatnot, or seeing pictures. Like the costumes just they
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  Speaker 1: they're made out largely made out of like vinyl in
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  Speaker 1: sequence and studs and things like that, and so the
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  Speaker 1: way that they play with the light, that first of
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  Speaker 1: the technical design in that show is amazing, and you
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  Speaker 1: don't you don't appreciate it unless you see it live.
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  Speaker 1: But the lights also play off of each actress's costume,
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  Speaker 1: as it's like their time to shine. So it was
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  Speaker 1: just really cool and just beautiful. The singing was good.
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  Speaker 1: I feel really bad for the actress who played Catherine Howard,
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  Speaker 1: because she was incredibly talented, but her monitors went out
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  Speaker 1: in the middle middle of her solo song, or maybe
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning of her solo song, and so she
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  Speaker 1: couldn't hear the music to get the right note. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's awful and towards yeah. And so there were times
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  Speaker 1: that like she was consummate professional, but as she's singing,
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  Speaker 1: she's like playing with the air pods in her ears,
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  Speaker 1: trying to get the monitors to work. And there are
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  Speaker 1: times where she just had to stop because she couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get the note. She would always stop at the same point,
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  Speaker 1: so it made it feel like it was purposeful, even
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  Speaker 1: though if you're really familiar with the song, you know
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  Speaker 1: that it's missing a word or two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then sadly she was a little off key. But
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  Speaker 1: once she got the note, she was brilliant. She sang beautifully,
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  Speaker 1: and at the end of the song, once her monitors
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  Speaker 1: were the show and the song. When her monitors were
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  Speaker 1: working properly, it was great. And I will say the
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  Speaker 1: audience that was there was so wonderful and encouraging and
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  Speaker 1: screamed and cheered and clapped for her. Regardless, Catherine Howard's
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  Speaker 1: song is not an easy song to emote to either,
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  Speaker 1: so because it kind of goes through how being a
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  Speaker 1: woman in the renaissance, you don't get a lot of
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  Speaker 1: over a lot of say over how men treat you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have a lot of autonomy or ages.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so some of her reputation might have been
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  Speaker 1: out of her control.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad to hear that. I mean, so is
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  Speaker 2: it is it done sort of in a concert style?
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen six or any of the stuff in there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's, uh, it is. At the start of
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  Speaker 1: the show, they're like, we're the six wifes of Henry
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  Speaker 1: the Eighth and you guys, we're gonna have a competition.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are gonna vote on who's the best one,
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  Speaker 1: And of course that kind of it's a story and
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  Speaker 1: it's an arc how it goes, but it plays like
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  Speaker 1: a concert. So yeah, there's there's songs and each there's
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  Speaker 1: like a an ensemble song at the beginning and end,
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  Speaker 1: and then each queen gets like their own solo song
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  Speaker 1: with backup vocals. Each queen is kind of based on
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  Speaker 1: a couple of different pop pop diva is the wrong word,
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  Speaker 1: but kind of pop divas.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, it's like Christina Aguileras, your Britney Spears, your you know,
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  Speaker 2: Ariana Beyonce, you can tell from. You can hell from
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  Speaker 2: my references what era I come from? Yeah, because I'm
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  Speaker 2: not talking about Ariana Grande or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Catherine Harold is very obviously based on her because
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  Speaker 1: she's got like the long ponytail. But it's really good.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. There's a lot of really
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  Speaker 1: great banter because you know, it's very sad and dark
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  Speaker 1: material if you think about it. Oh yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil anything about the show, because
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  Speaker 1: there was definitely more plot than I anticipated, because it
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  Speaker 1: is basically done in everybody's on stage ninety percent of
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  Speaker 1: the time, exception of a couple of times where they
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  Speaker 1: go off to get props or whatever or to fix
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  Speaker 1: like a costume thing. But because everybody's on stage, it's
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  Speaker 1: really easy for one person to sneak off if they're
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  Speaker 1: not featured at the moment. You know, my party noticed
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  Speaker 1: that someone sneaked off at one point and I hadn't
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  Speaker 1: so but yeah, it's very much like Spice Girls esque.
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  Speaker 1: The music is bopping that everybody had great comedic timing,
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  Speaker 1: the costumes amazing. I I enjoyed it more than I
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  Speaker 1: thought I would, so that, you know, you can go
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  Speaker 1: into a show being like, I'm gonna I'm gonna like this,
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see this, I'm excited to see with
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  Speaker 1: my friends, and then come out going Wow, that was
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  Speaker 1: even better than I anticipated, right, So, yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was very good. It was very fun. If you
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  Speaker 1: are not at all familiar with Sick. It is also
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  Speaker 1: running on Broadway, so there's a touring show and a
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  Speaker 1: Broadway show and they're running concurrently. Check it out somewhere
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  Speaker 1: if you can, if it comes to your town, or
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  Speaker 1: you know, check it out on TikTok or insta whatever
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  Speaker 1: social media so that you're on It's It's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun. A lot of it is actually pretty accurate,
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  Speaker 1: and it even focuses on some of the things about
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  Speaker 1: the different wives that get glossed over because it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: Amblin she got beheaded by King Henry, you know. So
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  Speaker 1: it goes over some of the other facts about their life,
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  Speaker 1: which is really cool. So schools have even used it
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  Speaker 1: as an educational tool. But I will say, like Ambulan's song,
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  Speaker 1: there there are some There are a couple of like
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  Speaker 1: bad words in it, cuss words. Basically amblan song is
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  Speaker 1: There was a warning in the program that said children
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  Speaker 1: under five should leave during this song.
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  Speaker 2: Would children under five even understand what was happening?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. There's one moment where they make a
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  Speaker 1: play on her losing her head, got it, And there's
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  Speaker 1: some suggestive suggestive movements with it.
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  Speaker 2: Got it well. One of the things I thought was
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  Speaker 2: interesting when I heard about six was about how the
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  Speaker 2: show's goal was to tell more of the story of
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  Speaker 2: these women, because ninety nine times out of one hundred,
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  Speaker 2: when you are reading up on these people, it's always
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  Speaker 2: in context of them being married to Henry the eighth, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like there's nothing about them unless it's in connection to him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a part of the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's great to have this effort to
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  Speaker 2: learn more about them as people and not just as
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  Speaker 2: a sequence, right, but to the point where, like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they even play off the whole divorce beheaded dye, divorce
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  Speaker 2: beheaded survived thing, which is the way that your little
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  Speaker 2: mnemonic device remembering what happened to each wife in the
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  Speaker 2: course of Henry The's life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my shirt has each wive's name with how how
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  Speaker 1: they ended their relationship with King Henry underneath it Ingray.
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  Speaker 2: I will say that when I first looked at you
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  Speaker 2: wearing that shirt shirt when we first started this call Aerial,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think it said Aragon. I thought it said
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  Speaker 2: araic Gorn, And I'm like, Wow, she's got a weird
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  Speaker 2: that's a weird Lord of the Rings t shirt she's wearing.
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  Speaker 2: Then I saw Bolin underneath I'm like, oh, I'm stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Catherine of ara Gorn. Why didn't we do
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  Speaker 1: that for a mashup this week.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because, as it turns out, we've got way too
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  Speaker 2: much to talk about to also throwing a mash up.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that reminds me we do not have a
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  Speaker 2: mash up this week. But that doesn't mean they're gone.
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  Speaker 2: They will be back. We just we just didn't have
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  Speaker 2: real time to dedicate to it. We were debating for
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  Speaker 2: a while about what two things we would mash up
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: because we didn't have anything that's currently coming out that
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: really sang to us. So that's that's really why. Beyond that,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I also understand you decided to watch a little Amazon
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Prime series.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. After I was like, how Jonathan, could you watch
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: all of Fallout in a day? I went and watched
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Fallout in a weekend.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I mean it. I will say it was like an
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: eight hour thing for me. I did watch it all
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: in a day, but it did last all of the
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: second half of day.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you. Because I was watching it, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, my folks like video games, and they've they
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: they've played like Diablo and stuff like that, so they're
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: not unaccustomed to this genre of game. Right, there's probably
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: played Fallout at some point. I don't know, but there
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: are some really amazing animal talent in Fallout, like really
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: great animal talent, good good puppy actors. And I told
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: my mom, I'm like, I don't know if the show
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: would be for you, but the there are some really
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: great animal actors in it. She's like, oh, yeah, I
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: know the owner of or I've met the owner of
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: one of them.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: The owner of dog Meat.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the owner of dog Meat or
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: if it was the owner of the collie later on.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Mmm. The the other was a I don't remember a collie.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I only remember the German shepherd dog meat. Who's in it?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Through the whole thing? Uh?
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: There was so.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: The h.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: How do I do this without spoiling? Okay, cover your
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: ears for fifteen seconds if you haven't watched.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Oh Coops, Coops Dog. Yes, yes, Coops Dog. Okay, yeah, no, no, no, yeah,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Now I know who you're talking about now, Joy Club.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: It's people know that there are flashbacks in the series
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: because that's been shown in trailers and stuff, even if
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: you haven't seen it. So that's a dog that's in
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: a flashback, not something that's going on concurrently with the
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: actual events of the show. Why'd you think of Fallout?
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I liked it and the funny thing about that story. Sorry,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I never got to the punchline because I'm sorry. My
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Mom's like, oh, yeah, we already watched all of it,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: and I'm like.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I've heard that a lot of folks who have never
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: even played the games or even had heard of the
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: games before, have started to watch it because it's just
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: one of those things that got a lot of buzz,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: which is cool. I wonder like I got a lot
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: out of it as a big fan of the Games.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: What was your experience?
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: So I I really enjoyed it. I'm actually going to
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: end up watching it again as a part of my
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: group watch with my friends. It wasn't sure if we
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: were going to continue group watch because of the whole
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Amazon party going away, but we're going to try to
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: just do like everybody start on three to two to one.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: It worked pretty well last night. That's TMI, that's personal
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: information whatever. I really enjoyed it. I honestly felt like
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: it picked up after the first two episodes. By the end,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I was all in the first two episodes, I'm like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: this is cute, but it's a little bit like too disjointed,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: because that's.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: How I felt. That's how I felt too. And I
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: also felt like the first two episodes, I mean, there
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: was humor in that first couple of episodes, but it
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: didn't like I said, it was so dark and twisted
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: that it didn't It didn't hit me the same way
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: humor in the Games typically does. And then as the
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: show goes on a little bit more of the humor
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: as I am familiar with it in the game series
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: starts to come out. That doesn't make it like overall
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: a comedy. It's I would still say a science fiction
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: action series with comedic undertones sometimes overtones, but I wouldn't
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: call it a comedy first and foremost.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: So I will say like after I was in the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: middle of the first episode and I texted you, I'm like,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: you weren't about the violence being quite a thing, and
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, it gets even more extreme. I honestly
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: felt the first two episodes were the worst.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Oh I don't maybe it's my thing with like extremities
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: like hands and feet, but there's some hand and foot
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: damage that really got to me later.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but at least one of those was in episode two.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: That's true, Yeah, because that was yes that I don't
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: want to spoil it either, but yes, that was very upsetting.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, like, I'm walking gingerly around the house
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the evening after seeing Yeah.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, they did set it up for
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: a sequel, which is really nice.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: And they're already they're already greenlit. They're gonna be shooting.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: They'll be shooting in Los Angeles because they shot the
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: first season, like all the desert stuff, they shot that
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: in Namibia. But they're shooting in La next for the
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: next season because they got a big tax break deal
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: with the state of California. So it's already been confirmed
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: that season two is gonna happen and it's going to
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: shoot in California.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Nice. I was shaking my fist a little bit because
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, our tax deals better. But yeah, you
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: have multiple locations for a reason, right.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I thought, I thought I saw Parnell Ella Pernelle, the
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: actress who played Lucy. I thought I saw her in
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: person this week. You might have like it was wild.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: This young woman who looks an awful lot like Parnell
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: was walking down I was walking timble and I was
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: walking him from a dog parks that I was the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: first time we ever went there. I had never been
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: to this dog park and it's like a fifteen to
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: twenty minute walk from my house, so I take him there.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: We're the only ones there, so it was kind of
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: the most pathetic dog park experience because timblet had no
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: other dogs to play with. But then we were walking back,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: and as we're walking back, this young woman's passing me
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, that looks just like the actress from Fallout.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she does have a very distinctive look. But I
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: mean it could be so like if you watch James
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Gunn's social media, he's all the time like I'm here, now,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I'm here. Now, we're filming in Atlanta, but I'm I
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: was in Hawaii two hours ago. You know, obviously he
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: may not be posting all of those things as they
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: are exactly happening.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I know a lot of times when I
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: go on vacation, I'll post pictures that once I'm home.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: But you know, she's at a caliber of acting that
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: she could have been in Atlanta this week.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have been weird. She was walking by
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: the Pullman train Yard, which has been used as a
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: shooting location for a lot of films, but these days
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: it's more like a events place, like they've got the
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Balloon Museum there right now, which, let.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Me tell you, I was really sad because I was like, ah,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: great they're doing so you think you can dance at
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the Pullman yards, I'll I'll go and watch when they're
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: doing their live audience voting stuff, right, so you can
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: usually either be like extra or get tickets to it.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But they've already done that. They did that earlier in
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the year because it's not an audience vote system. This
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: year they're doing a much more like America's Next Top Model, Oh,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: sort of a sort of a setup where each week
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: is like a different challenge. So one week they do
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: music videos, they dance in music videos. In one week
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: they do like Broadway stuff because they're looking for somebody.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: When they were picking their top ten, they were looking
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: for people who they could put into jobs tomorrow. So
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: on the one hand, it's weird and it's interesting because
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not like, I don't watch it for the drama.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I just watch it for the dancing. But on the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: other hand, like the caliber of dancers probably higher overall,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I would say, but it just means I won't get
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to be in the audience. But that's fine future years.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Well, so you did six in Fallout and then the.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Only things they're equally good?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: No, Yeah, so I'm playing Starting Valley and like other
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: like that's what I'm mostly doing in my off time,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: is because I find it very relaxing. But and my
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: wife is out of town. So I thought, well, I'll
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: just I'll watch something, and I pulled up MAX, not
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: knowing what was on there. I just pulled it up
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to see, like, what films have recently been added to MAX.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe i'll check something out. And I saw that Wonka
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: was added to MAX. And I had not seen Wanka,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: and I was pretty sure I wasn't gonna like it already,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: but I was like, I'm gonna give it a fair
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: shot because Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, the early
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventies Gene Wilder film is one of my favorite
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: movies of all time, like Jaws is my favorite movie,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: but Willy Wonka is probably number two. Like It's it's
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: way up there, so it has a soft spot in
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: my heart. I despised the Johnny Depp version, and then
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I thought, well, I'll give this a shot, and I
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: watched it and Timiditay Chala May is no Gene Wilder.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: He I guess he's fine. I think my biggest problem
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: with Wonka has nothing to do with the performances or
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: even the lackluster music or the script that I didn't
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: think was particularly good. None of that really is the
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: biggest problem I have with it. The biggest problem I
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: have with it is it is so not just unnecessary,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: but antithetical to the original material. Because to me, one
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: of the big, big, big appeals of the original Willie
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Wonka film is that you don't know very much about
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Wonka at all. He's a mystery, so you don't know
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: what to expect, and that, to me, is a huge
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: part of what makes that movie work. It's kind of
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: like how Jaws. Because the shark prop wasn't working most days,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: they had to find clever ways to shoot around it,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: and it ended up making the movie way better than
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: it would have been if you could have seen the
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: shark the whole time. And the problem with doing a
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: prequel is that it means you have to strip away
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: those layers of mystery, otherwise you have no story to tell.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: But then you've you've diffused the defining characteristic of this
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: enigmatic character, and it's like it's like you're committing character assassination.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I would argue it's very similar to what happened with
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Anakin Skywalker slash Darth Vader in the prequels.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I you know, I kind of agree, I agree with
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: you I haven't watched it. I've seen bits and pieces
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: of it, but I haven't watched it all the way
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: through yet, And I agree with you on the anestheticalness
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: of it. I also like the songs that I have seen.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: It's Timothy Shallamy's a fine singer, but they were just
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a little mellow. The songs are mellow, the performance is mellow.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: His performance of Wonka, he seemed delightfully charming and oddball,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: but he didn't have the right spice to his quirkiness
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no edge to his character at all, like
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: he and part of that, I guess you're supposed to think, oh,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: this is Wonk as a young man. It's before he's
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: become cynical. It's before the real world has kind of
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: ground down his soft edges into a sharp edge instead.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: And so of course he's not the kind of sardonic
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: character he would turn out to be later on in life.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, there was no hint of
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: it whatsoever, Like he's just sort of this wide eyed,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: naive guy who consistently gets his butt handed to him
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: because he just assumes the best of everybody, and the
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: people he runs into are very much not good people.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: It was fun to see tons of different actors who
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: have appeared in other stuff I've seen where I'm like,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: oh that I've seen that guy in Hyperdrive, or I've
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: seen that actress in the completely made up Adventures of
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Dick Turpin, or you know, I've seen there's Rowan Atkinson,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: there's mister Bean or black Adder. He definitely sounded more
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: black ad Her, But anyway, that was fun seeing all
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: these actors that I'm familiar with from English shows and films.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I like that. But I tried going in as unbiased
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: as I could. I still really did not like the movie.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: And it took me three sittings, I think to watch it.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I watched all a Fallout in a day. It took
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I took breaks what because i would watch like twenty
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: minutes and I'd just be like, oh, this is a
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: slog I'm going to take a break and have a
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: snack or I'm going to take tippled out for a
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: walk or whatever, and like, it took me probably about
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: four or five hours to get through a two hour movie.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's about That's that's almost as long as
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: it took me to get through the Snyder cut which
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: was that long.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I mean, like in no shade
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: on anyone out there who saw the movie and loved it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, if that's your thing, that's cool. I'm glad
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: you enjoyed it. And there's I'm not even saying it's
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: a bad movie. I'm just saying that I personally did
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: not enjoy it and really struggled to get through it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: But I was determined to see the whole thing. I
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: wanted to kind of give it a really fair shot.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: And again, like I think, I think most of the
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: performances in the film are good, but the movie itself,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: just its existence vexes me. But then on top of that,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I didn't really think the songs or script were that good.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Oh Olivia Coleman, She's great, isn't it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am a So the Ministry of Ungentleally Warfare
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: came out this week. Yeah, it's got good reviews so far.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping to see that this weekend. We'll see if
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: it happens.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: That would be fun, Yeah, I would. I'm curious about
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: that one. Like it's I know, as long as you
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: go into it thinking this is based on a true
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: story in the loosest sense of the terms. You're okay.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I also tried to watch Quantum Leap, but unfortunately I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: don't have that streaming service right now.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always a struggle for me. Speaking of struggles,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: we have gone half an hour into this podcast just
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: chatting about the stuff we've done this week, and we
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: haven't even touched on thirty seconds or less. And y'all,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: we have more than a dozen stories in that segment
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: this week.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Then we better stick to the thirty seconds as best
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: as humanly possible. And I'm going to start. So Mattel
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: and Hines have teamed up to make a barbecue sauce. Yeah,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: this is like if you want pink sauce, but actually
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: approved by the FDA's I guess, like a Mayo barbecue
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: mashup that gets it's pink because of bet It is
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: like legitimately like Neon pink. And they've also released it
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: with Tomato kenchup. So it's only available in the UK
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: right now really, but if it gets popular they will
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: possibly release it elsewhere UK and Spain, but there is
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: a potential that we will get it in the US
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: as well. If you are not in the UK and Spain,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: we know We have some listeners there, so if you've
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: tried it, let us know.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, considering the way food is in the UK, sometimes
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I'm thankful that they just keep it to their borders. Okay, hey,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: do you remember Sherlock. That's the series that introduced a
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: ton of folks to Benedict Cumberbatch, then precipitating an endless
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: series of jokes about his very English name. Anyway, it
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: appears that the series is only mostly dead because Mark Gabis,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: who co created the series, has expressed interest in creating
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a film that continues it. But how to do that
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: with all those tricky schedules. Well that's a mystery even
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Sherlock Holmes might not be able to solve.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: But maybe Turing well, I don't know, same actor. So
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: do you remember Reginald the Vampire. It's a show we
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: talked about in twenty twenty two, which is when it
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: came out. Apparently it is getting a season two. A
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: trailer just came out for it. It's coming back on
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: May eighth. It looks pretty cute. Honestly, It's kind of
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: if like Supernatural and Buffy met Hannah Montana. According to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the trailer. Yeah, so if you've liked the show. It
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: is on my list of things to watch if you
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: liked it. Excitement you are finally getting that season two cool?
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: All right, well, get ready to hear Shadow the Hedgehog
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: say whoa. That's because Keanu Reeves, who thinks you're beautiful
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: by the way, will be voicing the dark counterpart to
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: the plucky Sonic the Hedgehog in Sonic three. Shadow is
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: frequently a rival to Sonic in the games, but sometimes
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: is also an ally. So if I had to guess,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I'd say Shadow will start off by being an antagonist,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: but by the end of Sonic three, we'll be running
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: right alongside our blue hero taken bets.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I would not take that bet with you, because I
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: think you're right if you're a fan of Dimension twenty
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: by the Dropout crew, and we're hoping to get tickets
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to their Madison Square Garden show in January for Unsleeping City. Unfortunately,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: they are currently sold out. However, not until after they
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: opted out of platinum pricing through ticket Master, which made
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: tickets go up to two thousand dollars a pop. However,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: in the future, drop Out in Dimension twenty has said
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: that they're going to opt out of all future platinum
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: premium pricing with Ticketmaster, because apparently that is a thing
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you could do that they didn't know. And as well,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: they are doing a lottery for people to get tickets
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: for thirty five dollars a pop, which is much more
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: kinder to your pocketbook, so keep an eye out for that.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Well. Rough news this week for the staff at Marvel
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Entertainment and Marvel Studios because both departments had layoffs, affecting
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: around fifteen people in total, and this seems to be
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: in part due to the fact that Disney Slash Marvel
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: has shifted strategies after pushing out an absolute glut of
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: film and streaming content over the past few years, now
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: that they're scaling back, that is affecting the staff as well,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: and we just want to wish all those who have
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: been affected by the layoffs the absolute best.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: True true. That's sad for me too, okay, but a
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: much more sad for them. Live action one punch Man
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: is coming out. That's an awkward way to say it,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: but I was looking at the story and that's what
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: came out my mouth. But it is getting new writers.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: So now the team that is rewriting the script for
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: live action. One punch man is Dan Harmon, who created Community,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and I guess also Rick and Morty and then SNL
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: writer heather An Campbell. They're giving it a rework, although
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: it sounds like the director of it all of a sudden,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Justin Lynn, will still be directing it. He's the one
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: who has done a lot of the Fast and Furious movies.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Dan Harmon, get back to the Community film.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: We've been waiting on that for so long. I want
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: that movie, Okay. The filmmakers known as Radio Silence are
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: prepping a sequel to their slasher comedy film Ready or
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Not So if you haven't seen that movie, a character
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: named Grace is marrying into an eccentric, wealthy family, only
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: to find out they have this irritating habit of sacrificing
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: innocence to the devil. Womp wop. But the ending of
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: that film was such that a sequel actually doesn't sound
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: like it would be that logical. But according to the filmmakers,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: quote it's getting figured out.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: End quote interesting. I think they should let it be
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: just like the long lost nineteen seventies documentary about the
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Beatles that Peter Jackson used clips from for his own
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: documentary about the Beatles to Get Back. However, Peter Jackson
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: has also been working with the director of Let It
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Be to restore it and now Disney Plus, which has
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: already released Get Back, we'll be releasing this original Beatles
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: documentary on May eighth.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Nice Quit Tarantino planned to direct ten films total and
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: then retire. The Hateful Eight was the eighth film. Once
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Upon a Time in Hollywood was number nine, and ten
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be a film called The Movie Critic
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: about a nineteen seventy cynical film critic. But now Tarantino
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: has back out of that project for unknown reasons. So
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: will he make something else or will he actually decide
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Kill Bill really counts as two films and he's already
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: done time.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I'll tell okay. Sweet Tooth is getting a season three.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: It's it's final season. They've released a teaser for it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: It looks pretty apparently. Season three is going to be
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit darker than the previous two seasons. Don't
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: feel too sad. Jim Michel, the showrunner, is really happy
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: with how it's going and thinks we're going to get
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: a really good ending to the show. Netflix's article on
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: it There to Doom. Article says that it's kind of
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: what he intended from the start. I don't know if
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: that's Netflix just saying that because they canceled the show
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: after three seasons, or if that is in fact the
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: arc that they wanted to make. Either way, season three
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: looks good.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: If you watch the Fallout streaming series and you pay attention,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: you will notice at one point a phone number pops
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: up on screen. That phone number is two one three
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: two five vault, and you might wonder if that's a
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: real phone number. It is, and you might wonder what
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: happens if you call it, Well, you'll you get a
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: recording of someone screaming into the phone a lot. It's disturbing.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Try it, if you like I did, maybe you'll get
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: a nice sweet message. I did not.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm going to pass.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Uh So.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Superman Day just recently happened, and along with it, James
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Gunn posted a picture of his Superman actor and his
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Superman actress. Sorry I guess is Lesley an actress in himself,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: all reading comics on set like old, old classic Superman comics.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: It's a delightful picture. I'm really enjoying the social media
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Superman stuff that's coming out, we'll post it'll be in
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: our show notes.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Superman, once upon a time, Henry Cavill said
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: he was committed to seven seasons of the Witcher series,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: but then after season three he pieced out, reportedly so
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: that he could go and not be in the next
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Superman movie. Now we hear tell that the series itself
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: is preparing to piece out after the conclusion of season five.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: So why did we go from seven to five? Is
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: that a sign that maybe Cavill's departure left a big
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: hole in the show. We honestly don't know the answer
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: to that yet.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Speaking of I don't know how to segue this, Okay,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: balder Skate three is releasing a patch that's going to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: deal with some bugs and also give you seven new
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: possible endings, namely dealing with like evil endings if you
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: go that route. Also, sadly, they've said that they are
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: not going to release DLC and aren't planning on working
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: on a balder Skate for any like Big DLC or
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: working on a Baldergate four, But they are working on
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: two of their own IP two games based off their
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: own IP that they've learned a lot of lessons from
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Balder'sgate to build.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm a little bummed about no extensive DLC.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: But then at the same time they're like saying, no,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: we built the game we wanted to make, and we're
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: not here just to milk you for more money, and
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I really respect that. So yeah. Finally for me, Madison,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: the party girl character in She Hulk, whose name has
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: two ends and a lie but it's that way, I think,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: has appeared in Marvel Comics for the very first time. Namely,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: she pops up in What If Venom number three? Sort
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: of In that What If, the question is what if
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: the symbiote bonded with someone else, like doctor Strange. And
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: there's a sequence in which Wong is heading off through
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: a portal and you see a word bubble from Madison
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: clearly talking to Wong and party on is all I
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: can say.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Cute, and that is the end of our thirty seconds
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: or less. Hey, we largely stuck to it.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't wasn't too bad. Yeah, did you watch
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: the she Hulk series, Ariel?
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I did. I thought it was cute, but I also
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: thought that every episode ended too soon. They felt to me.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: I loved. I loved the character of Madison, which is
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: funny because that's typically the kind of character that just
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: irritates the living heck out of me. But for some
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: reason it really worked and she hulped for me. And
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: so when I saw that she actually makes her canonical well,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I guess not canonical because it's what If. What If
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: is not a canonical series, but she makes her actual
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: official comic book debut. I thought about darn time.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: She and she and Wong had a really good chemistry.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I think if she were by herself the whole time,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: it would get annoying. But I like she was funny
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: is a bit, but I think I think having having
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: him as a straight man is was a really good choice.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Well, when I heard that she appeared in What If
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Venom number three and that the whole plot was that
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: what if the Symbiote had bonded with someone other than
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Eddie Brock, I was like, Oh my gosh, are they
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: gonna tell me that the symbiote bonded with madisone? Because
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I can only imagine, Oh no, it's not no, She's
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: just she just has almost like an off screen cameo,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: at least in What I saw, so that's that was
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a letdown. But still, if you
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: want to talk about letdowns, though, we could really go
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: right into our first actual discussion point.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: So, Hey, you remember that series that I hate watched
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: the animated one.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Tried not to, but you keep bringing it up.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I mean the pain that I went through voluntarily. I mean,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I'll admit it, I voluntarily watched the whole thing. We
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: got a trailer for season two, which we knew was
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: already going to be a thing and everything, but now
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: we've got the actual trailer, and the trailer is getting
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of divisive reactions, just as the series did. Honestly,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think I ever saw any reviews that were
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: really that positive for the first season of Velma, Like,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think I saw any, but I saw some
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: that were kind of ho hum like they weren't super negative,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: but they weren't really positive either, And I saw a
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: ton of really negative ones. So I'm not surprised that
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: there's been a pretty like volatile reaction to season two
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: because so many people just were already determined to hate it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I have to say, though, when I watched this trailer,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I thought it looked like it might be at least
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: a slight improvement over season one.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I don't want to agree with you, but I agree
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, I'm honestly like. I also saw no
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: good reviews about it, and I was really surprised it
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: got a second season. I guess enough people hate watched it. Also,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: just comedy goes through eras you know, for a while
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it was kind of like like Brooklyn nine to nine
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: style zany but sometimes slightly mean comedy, and then it
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: was a situational comedy for the longest time. So maybe
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: this very like face value Shrek esque comedy is coming back,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: which is not my favorite kind of comedy.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it has a little bit of like meta
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: commentary to it, Like it's got a lot of meta
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: commentary to it, not just of the original Scooby Doo cartoon,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: but just an entertainment industry in general, and like pop
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: culture and even things like gender norms and that kind
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: of stuff all gets thrown in there. So the issue
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I had with the first season is that none of
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: that seemed to be handled with any artistry or subtlety
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: or even something like clever to say. It was all
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: very easy blunt jokes that appeared to be shocking just
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: for the purposes of shocking.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: That's the issue I had with it too.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I understand exactly what you're saying about
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: eras of comedy. Like I'll never forget the fact that,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: you know, we had the Fairly Brothers era where you
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: were getting things like dumb and Dumber and you know,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: there's something about Mary and all that kind of stuff.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: None of that appealed to me. So I there's like
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a whole like era of comedy where I either saw
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: very little of it or I just didn't see it
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: at all because it just wasn't my kind of comedy.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Same with like the stoner comedy stuff, which I get
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: as a subgenre, know, but Pineapple Express and that kind
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: of stuff never got into any of those things either.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: So you know, comedy is a very very personal thing,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: and you know, for people who enjoy it, that's great. Again, Like,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I never want to judge anyone for the stuff that
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: they like, assuming that it's not causing anyone harm anyway.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: If it's causing people harm, then I will judge you
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: and I will not hold back.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: But I also don't get into stoner comedy. There were
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: a couple of stoner comedies or stoner era comedies that
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I did enjoy for the most part until they grossed
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: me out, but for the most part enjoyed. You know, honestly,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the kind of like meta commentary, easy low hanging fruit
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: humor is also why I don't like Hasban Hotel, which
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: is a show on paper I should love just solely
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: because of all of the Broadway stars that are in it,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: but all the jokes there also felt very like easy,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: low hanging trying to shock you by just stating a
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: thing like you said this, so that's funny.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I watched the not the not the pilot episode, not
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: the YouTube episode, but I watched the first of the
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: the official episodes after that, which which threw me off anyway,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: because I didn't realize there had been a pilot, and
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: you know, the first episode picks up after the events
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: of the pilot, and so it was treating these characters
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: as people that you have already met, and I hadn't
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: met any of them, so I was very confused. I
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: i too, was not terribly impressed with it. I felt
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: like you do that a lot of the jokes being
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: made were very lazy and shocking just for the purposes
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: of being shocking, and like there were characterizations that didn't
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: make any like I couldn't tell what was trying to
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: be said, right, Like I'm watching this, I'm like, well,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: you're you're using extreme recognizable biblical characters, like fundamentally biblical characters,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: and you are completely twisting around what these characters are
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: like based upon compared to their traditional portrayals. And and
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: there's nothing illegitimate about that if you have something to say.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: But I couldn't find anything that wasn't that there didn't
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: seem to be any like perspective or point or philosophy
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: or anything behind it that I could really latch onto.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: So and full disclosure, like this show is hosted one
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: person who grew up and embraced kind of a faith
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: culture and one who grew up and embraced atheism, and
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: we both have the same reaction to the show.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And I will say like as as a
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: person as a person of faith, like I went into
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: it a little bit wary, but I also like some
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: dark humor at times, right, like if you you have
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: to be able to like laugh at yourself. So, but
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: that wasn't the part that bothered me. It was little legitimately,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: like the the very lazy humor. And I'm glad that
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: people like I'm so glad people like it because I
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: love musical television. I love it. I'm like, I'm still
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: salty about Gallivant going away, you know, so if musical
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: television is popular, I'm I'm happy for it because that
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: means we'll get more musical television.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: It's just it's it's not that as Wellma, but kind
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: of like how I'm still sad about Schmigado not coming
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: back again, Yeah, because man, we could have really used
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: a big, spectacled musical season of Shmigadoon and it would
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: have been incredible. Lately schmig Yeah, yeah, yeah, things playing
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: off of Le Miz and Phantom of the Opera and
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Miss Saigon and all those, all those like huge musicals
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: where it's so bombastic that as a teen I thought
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: it was the most brilliant stuff in the world. As
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: an adult, I find them exhausting.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: You know that you're not the only person so like Tony,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: my husband when I first met him, loved Phantom of
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: the Opera and Le Miz And we've gone to see
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: le Mis together because I had never seen it outside
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: of like the movie and listening to the soundtrack. I'd
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: never seen it live and I've still never seen fanom alive.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: But as he's gotten older, he's like, yeah, I liked
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: these as a kid, but looking back on them.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because it's you know, you know, the old
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: saying of in a musical, when you're feeling something too
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: strong to say it, you sing it, and if you
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: feel too strong to sing it, you dance. Uh Like
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: lay Miz takes that to such an extreme that you're
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: just like, this does feel like it was tailor made
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: for super hormonal teenagers who just all like they're like, like,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: it's it's they feel the highest of highs and the
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: lowest of lows and that's it. There's nothing in between.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, as an adult, you're like, yeah, all my
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: edges have been sanded down and now I just kind
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: of I feel a lot of on Wii and this
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: music is just not doing it for me.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm sorry you're feeling on we I do too,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: But I think it's more I've become more present about
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: the time that I spend and more picky about the
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: ways that I spend it.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, I mean as we get older, we have
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: less time. I mean that's just the way it works.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Like we've got a limited amount of time and every
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: moment we have less and we've chosen to spend it
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: by talking about this.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: So let's go from uh, you know where we went
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: from Velma to musicals with Velma type humor. Let's just
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: go to musicals. There's a new movie coming out called
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Thelma the Unicorn about a little poney that wants to sing,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: but everybody thinks that a pony singing is too plain
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: to gain notoriety.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that we go from Velma to Thelma.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: We're just staying in a rhyming scheme. Yeah, And so
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: of course the trailer shows this, so this isn't a spoiler,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: but Thelma the Unicorn, the little pony ends up looking
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: like a unicorn and then adopts this sort of glam
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: unicorn persona in order to pursue their dream of being
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: a pop star. And it's clearly this is meant for
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: like families and young'in's and stuff. And I put that
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: in here because I don't normally talk about this and
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I don't have kids so I don't tend to get
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: exposed to too much of this kind of material. But
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: I saw the trailer and I thought, well, this just
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: plane looks adorable.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: It does. It looks really cute. I don't remember the
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: team that's working by behind it.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't recognize the animation style or anything. And
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there are recognizable voices in it too, but
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't notice that either. I just thought, what a
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: cute little premise, and I thought the trailer did a
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: good job of kind of conveying it. It also felt
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: like it has, you know, a very fun and quirky
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: sense of humor to it. It kind of reminds me
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: a little bit of early Pixar.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Oh, it's the team that did Napoleon Dynamite.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Interesting, Like, I never would have put this together with
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: that because Napoleon Dynamite. I just think of it as
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: being such a hipster kind of comedy movie where it's
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: so disaffected and detached that it doesn't have the same
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: kind of, you know, wide eyed sincerity of something like
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Thelma the Unicorn.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, which has a bunch of comedians voicing the
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: characters who tend to be kind of attached characters in
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: their comedy like Zach Alphanexit, galfan Akis, Fred Armisen, Will Forte.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. All these guys are like known for.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: That Jamane Clement, which is awesome. It looks really cute.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I will say the song that they showed in the
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: trailer didn't grab me, yeah right away, But that doesn't
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: mean there won't be other bangers. It comes to Netflix
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: on May seventeenth, so make sure to make a note
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: of it sounds interesting to.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: You, yeah, definitely. And then next up, we've got a
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: trailer from space, which, Man, when you talk about like
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: publicity stunts in order to promote your film, this is
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: an odd one. It is.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: It's so like I have a hard time wrapping my
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: brain around it.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, like in space, in space, no one can
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: hear you explode.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Did it explode?
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: No? But I mean it's Transformers. There's lots of explosions
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: in Transformers and movies.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: So but like, so they shot this into space and
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: it aired from space, but we watched it here on Earth,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: So what was the point.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a publicity stunt. But yeah, so
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: it's like they used it. We're talking about Transformers. One
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: as the movie we haven't actually named it yet, but
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Transformers One, which is an animated Transformers film. It's not
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: one of the live action Michael Bay films, and it's
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: kind of like Transformers Babies or Transformers The Young Years
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: or whatever. It's it's set when Optimus Prime and Megatron
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: aren't even who they are in later iterations, and they're
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: like It made me think of those comic books that
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: would set Superman and Lex Luthor as high school classmates.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: And it's because Clark Kent accident only causes or sets
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: into motion events that lead to Lex being in like
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: a chemistry class accident, which is why he no longer
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: has hair, and that ends up being the root of
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: their of their animosity. That's what it was given. It
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: was giving those vibes pretty strong in this trailer.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Chris Hemsworth and Brian Tyree
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Henry are Optimus Prime and Megatron. I will say it
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: looked more entertaining and funnier, though I know people don't
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: necessarily watch Transformers for humor. To me than most of
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the Transformers movies that have come out live quote unquote
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: live action.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: I'll say the humor definitely was I think better, far
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: better than the Michael Bay movies, which mostly are like
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: the Michael Bay humor in those movies, it's mostly like,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: uh like essentially potty humor. Like it's really juvenile. If
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: you watch those Transformers movies, it's all it's the whole
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: film is juvenile. I mean not just the humor but
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: the fact, like with the ones with Megan Fox in it,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: you just feel like the camera is glued to Megan
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Fox's body in a way that's very male gaze ish,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: and it frankly like when I saw the trailer for
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: one of those movies where it comes up behind her
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: while she's bent over working on a car, I felt
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: like uncomfortable because of how creepy that camera angle was.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: But that's how the whole thing is, like, you know,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: having little little Transformers that are leaking oil or whatever
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: and making potty jokes. It's just like that's like the
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: level of humor you get in most of those movies,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: and I always hated that, whereas this one it felt
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: more akin to something like teenage mutant Ninja Turtles, like
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: that kind of vibe and energy and humor to it.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I for that alone, I hope it does well.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, I would love to see I mean,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: it's weird to say I want to see more stuff
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: like that for Transformers, because that's not how I associate
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Transformers either. I don't think of Transformers as a teenage
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: mutant Ninja Turtles esque action comedy. I think of it
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: as more sci fi action and occasionally you get some humor.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I will say that Transformers the movie, the
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: animated film from the nineteen eighties, was where I first
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: heard weird Al Yankovic's Dare to Be Stupid. Nice that
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: was featured in the film. But yeah, I thought the
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: trailer looked interesting. I don't know that i'll actually watch it,
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: simply because I'm kind of over Transformers, to be fair,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: like that whole franchise started just as a way to
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: sell toys, Like it wasn't I know, I feel the
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: same way about he Now, Like don't I don't feel
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: a particular affinity for these franchises when ultimately I know
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: that the only reason they exist was so that they
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: could toys. Like That's why I don't feel precious about
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: any of it, right, Like, if you want to do
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: a version of He Man, that's dramatically different from all
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: the other ones. When Kevin Smith was doing his, I
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: was like, fine, that's that's cool, because ultimately, you've got
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: to remember that this is a series that started literally
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: as a way to sell toys to children, So this
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: isn't like sacred text or anything. Have fun with it.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh well, he Man fans will disagree with you,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: but I enjoyed the Kevin Smith's vision.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: It's very Trueman. Fans often do disagree with me, and
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: I just say hey, yay, yay.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Y, which you weren't at the latest improvised D and D.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: But that was my little insert into pirates who don't
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: do anything.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: You did a what's going on from four non blondes?
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Awesome, we did that and defying gravity and toss a
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: coin to your witcher.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: If you don't know why I'm referencing what's going on
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: by four non blods, search what's going on? He Man
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: on YouTube and you can thank me later.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, but we'll add not you know. I was
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: going to say something and then we went off topic.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: It was a really good segue. I was like, we're
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: going to add not doing this to the list of
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: things Jonathan's not going to do like not playing Hades
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: too early. Access.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we talked about this, you and I earlier
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: this week when you were chatting and you sent me
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: this this news item about how so Hades is a
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: great roguelike game that came out a few years back.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: And you are playing the Sun of Hades and you're
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: trying to escape the underworld and you want to see
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: you want to find your mother, you know. And the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: whole game is you playing through these levels over and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: over and over again, dying over and over again, getting
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: better as you continue so that you can get further
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: and further until you finally are able to find your mom.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: And it's a great game. If you haven't played it,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: I highly recommend it. The art style is incredible, voice
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: acting is insane, the music phenomenal.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Do you have to be good at Rogue Lights?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: It helps? I mean, like, so you unlock weapons and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: stuff as you play, and you can, like you can
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: actually start to do things like find the weapons that
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: work best for you and kind of develop a strategy
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: based on those. It's a bit tricky, it's challenging. I
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: am not the best at those games, but I did
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: finish it. So while I'm not the best at those
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: kinds of games, it wasn't so hard that I couldn't
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: complete it. But anyway, Haities two now is in development
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: and they've opened it up for some technical testing. This
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: is like even before beta testing, so it's a very
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: limited player base that they've opened this up to. And
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: I was telling Ariel that there's a temptation to jump
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: on because I'm so eager to see what happens with
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Hades two, but that temptation is counterbalanced with the desire
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: to play the game in its best possible form, And
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: I don't really want to jump in when they're still
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: working on technical glitches, which is the whole purpose of
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: the test, And I understand that it's important part, but
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: I don't want my first impression of the game to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: be based upon an incomplete version.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. However, if you want to if you enjoy QA
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: and you want to QA a game, it's a small
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: group of players that they're going to let do it,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: but you should sign up to do it.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like the first Hades was that way too.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Like by the time I played it, it was already
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: out in full release, but it had a beta program
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: that people were active in for quite some time before
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: the game went to full release, and somehow I had
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: never even heard of it until it was released. And
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I think that's part of why I'm okay with waiting,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: because that first experience with the game was so positive
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: that I would rather repeat that than to risk like
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: being frustrated with it because it's it's literally still being developed. Yeah,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: and I recognize the necessity for that testing. There's no
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: shade shade on Haiti, so to speak, But I just
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: think that that for me to really have the best experience,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be as patient as possible.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Well, someone else who is moving from a beta test
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: to a full release is John M. Hue. He was
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: the director of Crazy, Crazy Rich Asians, as well as
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: the In the Heights movie and the Wicked movie. But
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: now he's bringing Crazy Rich Asians to as a play.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: It'll be his first Broadway play.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm guessing that the experience on things like Wicked
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: kind of helped inspire that. But that's that's cool. Like one,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's cool to see a musical that's
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: going to feature a cast and a subject matter that
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: doesn't often get covered on Broadway if you do see
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: shows like Broadway has a very unfortunate past with shows
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: that have to do with Asian culture. Like I mentioned earlier,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Miss Saigon. Well, Miss Saigon has a half Vietnamese half
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: French character called the Engineer, kind of an antagonist sort
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: of in the show, and originally in the production it
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: was Jonathan Price, an English actor. You might know him
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: as Kira Knightley's dad in the Pirates of the Caribbean movie.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: He played the part of the Engineer, which is pretty
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: darn troubling, right to have an English Caucasian actor playing
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: the part of an Asian character. So to have this
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: and but now we're in a post Hamilton world. I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: feel like Hamilton really shone a spotlight on issues in
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: Broadway and through its popularity, showed proved that the issues
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: that existed on Broadway were like just constructs that could
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: easily be knocked down. It makes me excited to see
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: how this turns out. I never saw the film, but
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: it does make me curious about the musical.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: That's a shame. The film is one of my maybe
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: my favorite modern day rom com. Oh cool, yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I mean like it's never going to replace like the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: court Chester, which is only vaguely.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: A rom com, only vaguely modern day.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: That's not at all modern day, but that's why I
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: said modern day. But it's a wonderful movie. I highly
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: recommend it highly. And the really nice thing about it is,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: like the the main romantic couple, neither is it fault
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: for the issues that they encounter in the movie. Uh,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: And it's it's just really well done. And I hope
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: it's got a great soundtrack too, and I hope that
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: the stage play version includes Catherine Include. Well, it probably
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: won't include Catherine Hoe unless she joins the cast, but
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: she is a wonderful singer who did a cover of
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Coldplay's Yellow in Mandarin Chinese for the movie. As it's
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: kind of like a tongue in cheek commentary on you know, racism. Yes,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: but it's brilliant. It's brilliant and I love it and
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: it was such a such a great addition to the movie,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: and I hope they put that into the stage play.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: But yes, I highly recommend the movie. You should watch it.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun, it's just and it makes
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: you feel good at the end of it.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: So well, that's a great recommendation and goodness knows, like
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: I am eager to seek out entertainment that leaves me
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: feeling better than when I started watching it. Like, that's
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: a rarity these days because we have so many not
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: I mean brilliant pieces of entertainment, don't get me wrong,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: but harrowing entertainment where at the end of it you
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: feel worse than you did when you started. Yeah. I
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: appreciate that. I think that it takes talent to tell
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: a story. Well, but I could my mental health could
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: really use some pick me ups.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure watch it. This is gonna be
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: one of the ones I remind you about. Okay, something
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: that probably won't make you feel nearly as good. It
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: is the new m Night Chamalayan movie.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we told you we'd get there. It's an hour
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: and seven minutes later and we're finally there.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Look, we're not even going to get to our conversation
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: topic today. We're going to move that to another week.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We made the call mid episode too, because we
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: were going to talk about fake trailers. But we'll save
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: that discussion for later because we don't need an hour
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: and forty five minute episode.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: No, I actually have to get back to work at
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: some point. But so yeah, so m night, Shechmalian's am
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: I saying his name right, Shyamalan, Shyamalan. I keep like
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: just like speeding through it, hoping no one will notice.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: I understand. I understand because I used.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: To say Shamalan and that's not right either. M Night, Shyamalan.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: There you go. Haha.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: It's coming out with a new movie called Trap and
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: there's a trailer for it and I was like, Okay,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: what's the what is the twist in this going to be?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: And they show you in the trailer.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So the trailer starts off with like a father
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: and he's your typical dad who tells dad jokes, trying
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: to connect to his like teenage tween age daughter like
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: she's somewhere in that area as and surprises her with
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: tickets to go see a concert of this particular pop
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: star that his daughter is a big fan of. And
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: so it's a daddy daughter trip to this concert and
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: she's all jazzed about it and they go and in
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: the trailer there's a moment where he says he needs
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: to go to the restroom, so he's excusing himself. He's
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: checking on his daughter make sure she's going to be
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: okay while he goes off. She's like, sure, just go ahead,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: go I'll be right here. And then as he's heading
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: out toward the lobby, he notices that there's an increased
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: police presence and the police are putting up cameras, and
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: so he flags down a guy who's working perch at
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: the event and asks him what's going on. And then
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: this is where the twist is already revealed in the trailer.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I don't know makes me less interested in
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: seeing the movie.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you want to explain what the twist is
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: or what's going on.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's the dad goes into the bathroom and
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: looks at a dude in his basement who's tied up,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: and you learn that the dad is the serial killer.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't even say about what they were looking
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: for yet.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're trying. So it's called trap because they're
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: trying to trap. My brain just automatically filled it in Johnson,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: because they're trying to trap a serial killer who they
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: think will be at the concert and there's no way
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: out of the concert, so they're going to find that person.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: And it turns out the dad is that person. So
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: my assumption is the rest of the movie is him
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: trying to avoid them and escape.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems like he's not like he seems concern maybe,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: but not like he doesn't seem overly afraid of being caught.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: So it's interesting because you know, finding out that the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: dad is in fact a serial killer, I guess, is
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: what the whole twist would be. But that is the
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: whole focus of the film is about him apparently trying
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: to outsmart the authorities who are there to capture him.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: And of course, like you get the juxtaposition of the
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: guy who on the outside seems like jovial dad, joke
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: kind of dad, like a little bit lame, a little behind,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: but he genuinely appears to love his daughter, and then
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: you find out, oh, he's also a sicko psychopath who's
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: kidnapping and killing people. But that also made me think
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: of there was a film that was done not too
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: long ago. It was a much more low budget movie
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: where it was the story unfolds where it's a young
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: boy who suspects that his dad is potentially a serial killer.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: And I wish I could tell you the name of
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: it because it was again one of those movies that
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: makes you feel worse when it's over. It was not
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: a happy story. But this film kind of reminded me
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: of like if you did the big blockbuster, Hollywood glossy
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: version of that kind of film, this is what you get.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Was it the clove hitch Killer?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was the Cloth hitch Killer? Okay, yeah, not
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: that I just googled it did a great job though,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: area good good googling skills. Yeah, Clove hitch by the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: way Man. Yeah, No, that's a that's a compelling film
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: to watch. And there are some intense performances in that movie.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I do like a good thriller and
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: a good suspense movie, and Trap might be one of those.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: But like I mentioned earlier, I bet that if I
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: went to see it in the theater, I would one
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: hundred percent the entire time be going Okay, so what
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: is the real twist? There's gonna be a twist. What
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: is It?
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Turns out the pop singers actually the serial killer, and
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: the whole thing leading up to that was just a
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: red herring.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he is an undercover cop.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with a difference. The difference, Yeah, I I thought
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: I thought the dad character in this trailer was like,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: it really appealed to me because it felt like it
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: felt like that sort of lame dad who's trying a
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: little too hard but genuinely cares about his kid. So
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: that's why I was like, Wow, this is this could
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: be really interesting to try and do a juxtaposition between
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: someone who appears to be that sincere and caring while
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: simultaneously is also you know, like a cold blooded killer,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: because you know, you don't have that many actors who
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: could pull that kind of thing off. So it made
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: me a little curious.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: But Josh Hartnett for anybody who's curious.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, apart from that, it just didn't really grab me.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: But maybe I'll feel different. I'll probably have to wait
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: till it comes straight. I don't think I'm going to
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: go to the theater to see this one.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably probably mean neither. That's that's a good sentence.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: It's a good sentence I constructed there. So next, about
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: four years ago, Borderlands had their players do like this
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: mini mini game, this like puzzle minigame for science.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is true. Like I did not know about this.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: It's weird because I've played the Borderlands games and I
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: had not heard about this at all.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it's really cool. So they had these
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: players play these games where they were like I guess,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: comparing mapping and comparing microbes, and they were basically like
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: little puzzles that even their supercomputers were having a hard
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: time figuring out. And like four point five million players
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: took part, and they solved a whole bunch of these problems.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: And because of that, we have a really good understanding
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: of some stuff that we didn't before, like IBS.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So this is similar in many ways to grid computing,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: things like SETI at Home or folding at Home, where
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: you have these different projects that would make use of
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: normal people's computers idle time. So you could sign up
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: for like SETI at Home or folding at Home or whatever,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: and when you weren't using your computer, your computer's processing
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: power would be used to help solve various problems in science,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: like how certain proteins fold and such, and that would
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: be really helpful in the long run for learning things
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: about chemistry and biology and that kind of stuff. In
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: this case, instead of using computers to actually run these processes,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: is making use of players to do it like manually,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: but gamified in such a way that there was a
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: reward system, like a fun experience for the players to
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: urge that to happen. It's so such a brilliant approach
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: to problem solving. Obviously, it's not something that you could
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: easily poort over to just anything, but the fact that
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: they came up with this concept is incredibly clever, and
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: it's it's cool to think that while you're sitting there
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: dreading the next tiny Tina voice line, you could be
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: helping science.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and you know, hopefully it'll give us better
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: answers to people who are suffering from things like IBS
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: or Alzheimer's just stuff. But the really really cool part
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: is everybody who participated is now listed as an author
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: among like their new their new paper on the scientific findings.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: That is really cool, Like, what a great way to
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: become a published scientist.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I was. I was just thrilled to like
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: I on a small scale, we we did the Doctor
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Horrible like try to be is among the Village League
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: of Evil, Yeah, the Evil League of Evil, and I
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: just I was thrilled for the tiny bit of like
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: participation we had in that. This is twenty thousand times.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Cooler the fact that the fact that our characters are
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: listed in credits in one of the Doctor Horrible Things. Yeah,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: just like my name showed up in the credits of
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: that one season of MST three K that was crowdfunded,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: So my name is on that list. But that list
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: is like thousands of names long, where it's like four
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: columns of names in tiny texts where you're just like
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: waiting and waiting, like they're not at the s as yet.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna it's gonna be a while. So uh yeah,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: now that was cool. And our last story today is
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: about a stage show called the Twenty Sided Tavern, which
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: is an officially licensed Wizard of the Coast stage show
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: relating to Dungeons and Dragons. And essentially it's like you're
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: going to see a group of players play through a scenario,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: but the audience, like there's no fourth wall. The audience
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: is essentially an additional element in the game and can
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: affect the outcome of the game. They even have an
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: app that the audience can use to help influence what
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: happens as the game unfolds, and so no two performances
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: are the same.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like a mix between Critical Role
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: and Shoot Face Shakespeare. It sounds like a little bit.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it is kind of like a real
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: play session in that, like they're not dressed up. The
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: actors on stage are not dressed up as fantasy characters.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: They're playing a game of D and D. But they
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: have like this big video screen in the back that
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: is versatile and can include stuff like showing you the
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: results of the app, like when people are using the
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: app to to do things like essentially kind of voting
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: on things that happen. The screen can show you how
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: the outcome happens before the game master incorporates that into
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: the story. It's cool and like the little clips I've
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: seen look interesting and neat. Apparently they did a short
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: run of this in Chicago before they ported the show
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: over to New York, which is not unusual. Chicago is
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: often a theater spot where they'll run a show before
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: it makes a transition to say Broadway. But it opened
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: this week. Actually, the day we're recording this is when
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: they're having their first preview performance.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sad that it's not in Chicago anymore because I'll
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: be there soon.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Are you going to see two E two?
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: No? No, am I going to see T E two?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: Jonathan, I don't know.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: You probably know I don't have the right connections to go.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: No go, I'm traveling for a family event.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Okay. I was like, you might be going there to
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: hang out with the mcilroys for all I know.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Look, if that's the dream.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: You know, I met them because they came through the
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: House Stuff Works office years and years ago, because they
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: became friends with Josh and Chuck of stuff. You should
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: know Josh and Chuck. They're the ones who have the
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: celebrity hookups. Like John Hodgman came through. The mcilroys came through.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: Although my boss Connall, of course, he went to college
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: with Bradley Cooper. They were roommates, so Bradley Cooper came through.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: But that was not because of Josh and Chuck. That
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: was because of Connall.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: So look, technically I've met John Hodgman.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Well technically I have too. We talked about runs.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was on the Joco Cruise. My story is
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: not nearly that cool. But no, they seem like nice.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: They seem like cool.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Folk, nice boys.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Nice boys.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah that I mean, I think I can be forgiven
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: for guessing that you were going to like a cool
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: convention or something.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would that would be really cool. Now I'm
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: not cool enough.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: For C two E too. Well, I'm I'm so out
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: of touch that I didn't even know that it was
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: a thing until the McIlroy's mentioned it in like no
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: upcoming shows that kind of thing, because I do still
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: listen to their show. But uh yeah, anyway, well, it's
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: now going to be open in New York. Uh it's
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: I think their official opening day is in early May.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: So these are just sort of like preview performances for
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: them to work out any kinks or anything. But yeah,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: if you're in if you're in New York, you can
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: go to the twenty Sided tavern dot com and look
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: at getting tickets to go see the show. I am
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: certainly curious about it. Like we, Ariel and I have
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: both seen Improvised Dungeons and Dragons, which is an unofficial show,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: not officially licensed my Wizard of the Cause, and that
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: is a lot of fun. But in that one, the
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: actors actually do dress up as fantasy characters, and the
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: D and D connection is light like like there there's
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: they'll lean on D and D a little bit, but really,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: it's just a comedy show with a fantasy theme. A
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: great one, but it's you know, if you're there to
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: see like a serious D and D session play out,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: you are going to leave the disappointed.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I am interested in it. Hopefully it'll be
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: around for a while. Because that way then went over.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: The next time I go to New York is to
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: watch it. That is it? Like we said, no mashup
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: this week and no conversation topic, but that's because we
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: had a whole bunch of conversation topics we didn't plan on. Jonathan,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: With that being the case, do you want to tell
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: people how to contact us?
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: Or should I just oh no, I can talk about that.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: It's pretty simple. It's really straightforward. So you're going to
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: roll up a character and you're going to have to
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: determine things like race and class and background. You're going
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: to need to choose advantages and disadvantages. You're going to
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: spend probably at least fifty minutes working on this, and
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: that's before you even get to the part where you
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: decide what this character looks like. Or maybe you start
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: with what the character looks like and then you build
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: from there. Either way. After about three hours of some
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: serious work. You're going to have this character ready to go,
• 1:23:34
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• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: is going to start immediately with combat. Unfortunately, your character
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: is going to get killed in that very first encounter,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: and it's going to be really devastating, I mean frustrating
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: that you put three hours of work into someone and
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: you even develop somewhat of an emotional connection with this
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: fictional character, and then immediately they are dispatched. And as
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: you see your game master tear the character sheet in
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: half in front of your very eyes, you will turn
• 1:24:04
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• 1:24:06
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