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The Bolt Report | 20 July · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: It's the report tonight, So much for balance, the ABC's
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  Speaker 1: obscene and vicious attack on billionaire Gina Reinhardt, plus more
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  Speaker 1: liberal in fighting as a Liberal Front bencher attacks Tony
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  Speaker 1: Abbott for saying multicultural has failed. Also tonight Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: hogs the stage of the World Cup. What does that
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  Speaker 1: tell us? And the Italy of the North. Britain gets
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  Speaker 1: its seventh Prime minister in just ten years. But first tonight,
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  Speaker 1: don't want to show you how Labor lies, how the mediaize,
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  Speaker 1: how even some liberals lie, lie about Pauline Hansen again
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  Speaker 1: this time that she wants a white Australia policy. Will
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  Speaker 1: also show that those lies now don't work. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: today's news poll shows one Nation's support is up again
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  Speaker 1: level with the Alberdezi government. Now this latest slide, I've
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  Speaker 1: heard it all. We can heard it again today, including
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  Speaker 1: sad to say even here on Sky how Pauline Hanson
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  Speaker 1: laments the end laments is the word that kept using
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  Speaker 1: of the white Australia policy, the Guardian Senate, the ABC
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  Speaker 1: said at SBS edit City Morning Herald, and Labor jumped
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  Speaker 1: all over it.
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  Speaker 2: I never thought when I entered Parliament that in my
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  Speaker 2: political lifetime, anyone who'd been elected to Parliament would be
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  Speaker 2: calling for white Australia.
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  Speaker 3: And then she's saying she's all for white Australia.
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  Speaker 4: Paul In Hanson made comments in the last seventy two
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  Speaker 4: hours indicating that a problem with Australia was the removal
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  Speaker 4: of the White Australia policy.
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  Speaker 1: Even the deputy Federal leader of the Liberals piled on
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  Speaker 1: that Hanson had, as a matter of fact, lamented the
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  Speaker 1: end of the White Australia policy to policy to stop
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  Speaker 1: or restrict people of color emigrating here.
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  Speaker 3: That's not the way we operated in Australia. We have
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  Speaker 3: had a proud history of multiculturalism. We're a great migrant nation.
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  Speaker 3: We need to make sure that we have a migration
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  Speaker 3: program that's delivering for our country, that's driving productivity, not
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  Speaker 3: taking away from it. But restoring a White Australia policy
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  Speaker 3: is not part of that.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: If Hanson really did say such a thing, criticized her.
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  Speaker 1: Of course I would criticize her like I did, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: for meeting in London the fire right thug and convicted
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  Speaker 1: criminal Tommy Robinson, to whom we're told she made those comments.
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  Speaker 1: Supposedly lamenting the end of white Australia. But I checked
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  Speaker 1: what Hanson actually said, and this was it. This is
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: How have you ended up with Pakistani's, Somalis, all of
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  Speaker 4: these African problems?
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  Speaker 1: How has that happened when you have such a strong
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  Speaker 1: immigration policy.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it started in nineteen seventy three with Gough Whitlam.
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  Speaker 5: So they opened up and got rid of the white
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  Speaker 5: Australia policy. Then they started bringing in the different migrants.
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  Speaker 5: These people who came in really assimilated and you speak
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  Speaker 5: now they're Aussies. But over the decades, as the governments
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  Speaker 5: have changed and different people they've brought in and a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people come into Australia purely for the welfare system.
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  Speaker 1: Actually the Liberals actually started the dismantling the white Australian policy.
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  Speaker 1: But you heard it. Did Hanson in that clip say
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  Speaker 1: I lament the end of white Australia. I regret it clearly?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 1: Did she say I want to return to white Australia again, No,
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  Speaker 1: no way. Did she make a case for white Australia
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  Speaker 1: as did say the founder of the Liberal Party, Sir
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  Speaker 1: Robert Menzie is our longest serving Prime minister defending a
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  Speaker 1: policy that labor back then also backed.
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  Speaker 7: Do you believe that the so called white Australia policy
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  Speaker 7: will always be a stumbling block. It's such a stumbling
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  Speaker 7: block as people pretend, but that it's important for us.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't the slightest doubt that we should maintain it
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  Speaker 7: the way it is as.
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  Speaker 1: Long as we possibly can.
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  Speaker 7: We ought to aim at having a homogeneous population. I
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  Speaker 7: don't want to see reproduced in Australia the kind of
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  Speaker 7: problem they have in South Africa, or in America, or
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  Speaker 7: increasingly in Great Britain.
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  Speaker 1: He changed his mind later, but still Hansen said nothing
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  Speaker 1: like that. All she did was cite the white Australian
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  Speaker 1: policy as a historic reference point when we open the
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  Speaker 1: doors to mass migration not just from Europe but the
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  Speaker 1: Middle East and Africa as well well. Yes, things did change,
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  Speaker 1: some good changes, some bad changes. Is there even an
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  Speaker 1: ostrich that hasn't noticed? Now? Hans in herself quickly deny
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  Speaker 1: those lives that she wants to return to a white
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  Speaker 1: Australian immigration policy.
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  Speaker 5: There are false allegations that I wanted to introduce the
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  Speaker 5: white Australia policy.
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  Speaker 8: Not the case.
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  Speaker 5: Never ever have I advocated that, and I don't believe
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  Speaker 5: in it as well, and.
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  Speaker 1: One Nation's Barnaby Joyce and Hanson's thought. Lee also tackled
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  Speaker 1: the lies.
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  Speaker 6: I had in no way, shape or form did she
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  Speaker 6: say she wished the white Australian policy hadn't been changed.
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  Speaker 9: She does not support it and she does not want
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  Speaker 9: it back.
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  Speaker 2: Pauline Hansen does not support the White Australia policy.
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  Speaker 5: She supports the assimilation and the Australian culture.
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  Speaker 1: Locket. This Labor then made out that denying this labor
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  Speaker 1: lie proved my nation really was racist. This was the
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  Speaker 1: Albinizi government's Assistant Minister for Multiculturalism, Juli in the Hill.
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  Speaker 10: Today, when a politician into twenty twenty six, a member
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  Speaker 10: of the Australian Parliament, the world's most successful diverse democracy,
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  Speaker 10: has to get up and say, oh no, actually we
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  Speaker 10: don't believe in the white Australia policy. I mean, where
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  Speaker 10: what has got you to that place where you need
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  Speaker 10: to utter those words?
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  Speaker 1: What has scott them to that place? Julian that one
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  Speaker 1: nation has to say these things. It says that you
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  Speaker 1: labor are liars making the innocent speak to defend themselves. Now,
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  Speaker 1: but no now I suspect that many my nations have
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  Speaker 1: those who feel that I've seen this movie before, again
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  Speaker 1: and again and again. Hanson smeared with lies and so
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  Speaker 1: often that the story now has actually become not that
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  Speaker 1: Hanson is a racist, but that her critics are shameless
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  Speaker 1: liars trying any low trick to shout her down. And
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  Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people now it's no
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  Speaker 1: longer handsOn who scares them. It's those haters, including now
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  Speaker 1: the Liberal Party, I have to say, especially it's left wing.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, there is plenty to criticize handsOn for, and
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  Speaker 1: you've heard me criticize it fair a bit lately. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: for instance, for meeting Tommy Robinson for not doing her
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  Speaker 1: homework about him so that she could sit down with
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  Speaker 1: that creep and then not realize that he was lying
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  Speaker 1: to her too, telling her, oh, no, I've never tried
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  Speaker 1: to go to Australia, when in fact it has been
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  Speaker 1: banned twice when he tried to, not least for bashing
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  Speaker 1: a policeman. Leam Bartler of Channel seven picked her up
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  Speaker 1: on that on last night's Spotlight.
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  Speaker 5: So how do you feel about him lying to well,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know about that If that's the case, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not impressed with that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you've done your research.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway. That's my decision.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, Pauline, you're in a position now do your research.
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  Speaker 1: Unforced thereers, But like I said, today's newspaper shows hands
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  Speaker 1: and support is actually back up again, way ahead of
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  Speaker 1: the Coalition of course, while Labour is falling to be
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  Speaker 1: level with one nation. And to me that's not a surprise,
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  Speaker 1: not a surprise. And these lies are actually the key.
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  Speaker 1: The other parties and much of the media, they're lying
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  Speaker 1: about Hanson because one issue in particular that they do
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  Speaker 1: not want to discuss themselves and do not want anyone
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  Speaker 1: else to discuss. National identity and national unity now rotting
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  Speaker 1: away because of mass immigration and multiculturalism, that policy to
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  Speaker 1: keep us in cultural ghettos, the policy that led just
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  Speaker 1: last Saturday to mannus like this. At a press conference,
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  Speaker 1: the Prime Minister called to talk about is next moves
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  Speaker 1: that tackles suppose Islamophobia, which, to be blunt, is mostly
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  Speaker 1: caused not by an irrational hatred of Islam, but a
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  Speaker 1: well founded fear of Islamist extremists that we've often lit in.
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  Speaker 4: Islamophobia has no place in Australia.
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  Speaker 5: Taur diversity is one of Australia's great strengths.
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  Speaker 11: I welcome these measures that include addressing Islamophobia in schools
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  Speaker 11: and universities. I also acknowledge the critical support for Muslim women,
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  Speaker 11: especially in mental health. The establishment of an Australian Muslim
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  Speaker 11: Affairs Institute and grants to improve understanding of Muslim.
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  Speaker 1: History Institute grants teaching in schools and units. Yes, this
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  Speaker 1: is another multicultural project to teach us everything about Islam
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  Speaker 1: is terrific. Muslim history is great. Just don't mention the
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  Speaker 1: slavery or how Islam was spread with the sword. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: they won't be mentioned. And if we have a problem
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  Speaker 1: with Islam, the problem is obviously us. It's out Islamophobia. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this kind of nonsense is exactly what Hanson is fighting.
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  Speaker 1: And I know I'm probably with a lot of you
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  Speaker 1: that I also wish that Hanson fought with more sensitivity,
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  Speaker 1: less anger, more intelligence, a lot more research. And I
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  Speaker 1: wish she didn't embrace ugly people like Tommy Robinson. But
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  Speaker 1: while she is the only political leader game to even
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  Speaker 1: have a go these lies about it, they're not going
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  Speaker 1: to work. In fact, the opposite. The more that Hans
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  Speaker 1: and haters lie, like they're doing in the last few days,
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  Speaker 1: the more that they advertise that they are lives and
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  Speaker 1: that they are lying to hide their trashing of our country.
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  Speaker 1: And look, I've got to say here, the liberals must
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  Speaker 1: now realize they created Pauline Hanson. They created Hansoon by
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  Speaker 1: being too scared to talk about the stuff that she
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  Speaker 1: does talk about. They created the vacuum. She's just filling it,
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  Speaker 1: which makes liberals like front bencher Andrew Bragg stupid to
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  Speaker 1: now still criticize the one senior liberal his own so
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  Speaker 1: having a go to criticize Tony Abbott, the former Liberal
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  Speaker 1: Prime minister and our Liberal national president and who knows,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the party's future leader again the way things are going.
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  Speaker 1: Abbad last week said this about multiculturalism, given the Bondai
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  Speaker 1: massacre of.
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  Speaker 2: Jews, Multiculturalism has failed and diversity is not our strength.
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  Speaker 1: Now that is so obvious. But Andrew Bragg yesterday bagged
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  Speaker 1: Abbot on the ABC.
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  Speaker 12: He's a former prime minister, he's entired to his views
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  Speaker 12: and I strongly.
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  Speaker 1: Disagree with them.
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  Speaker 13: Liberalism has actually created multiculturalism.
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  Speaker 1: No labor created multiculturalism. The liberals just went along with
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  Speaker 1: the flow. More for them, and look where this new
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  Speaker 1: tribalism has taken us. The Bondai massacre is, of course
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  Speaker 1: the worst example. But here is the latest. The Electoral
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  Speaker 1: Commission has renamed two federal electorates with a very political
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  Speaker 1: and divisively multicultural agenda.
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  Speaker 12: The electorate of Franklin is proposed to be named in
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  Speaker 12: honor of Tomma Longita, a prominent Aboriginal leader and warrior.
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  Speaker 6: The electric name for Gray is changing to her Donohue,
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  Speaker 6: in honor of the late doctor lowicher O Donahue.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how divisive is this? So one electorate is
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  Speaker 1: named after an Aboriginal warrior who killed white settlers in
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  Speaker 1: what's being dressed up as supposed resistance, and the other
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  Speaker 1: is named after the woman who claims she was stolen
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  Speaker 1: as an Aboriginal child, and in fact became patron of
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  Speaker 1: the Sorry Day Committee. So that's supposed to remind you
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  Speaker 1: that not only you know were we genocidal, we used
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  Speaker 1: to be racist, stealing children, the Solen generations. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: though mistake Loweratier Donohue, she later admitted to me she
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  Speaker 1: hadn't been stolen her white father had instead given her
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  Speaker 1: and she's the child in red here to white missionaries
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  Speaker 1: through gave it to the heroic matron of Colebrook Home,
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  Speaker 1: Sister Rubyhyde. Another of the children that Sister Hyde helped
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  Speaker 1: was Faith Thomas. Now Thomas also became a nurse like
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  Speaker 1: Lowi jhow' donahue and later played for the Australian women's
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  Speaker 1: Test team and remembers how those missionaries at Colebrook, Sister
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  Speaker 1: Hyde and her colleague Sister Rutter saved her. Remember remembers
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  Speaker 1: the constant love and attention the children got from these
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  Speaker 1: two remarkable ladies.
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  Speaker 14: Had I not been in Colebrook, I would never have
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  Speaker 14: got the opportunity that I did have. So I consider
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  Speaker 14: myself not stolen but chosen.
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  Speaker 1: Faith Thomas died not so long ago. But so if
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  Speaker 1: we really had to give the seat of Gray and
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  Speaker 1: South Australia a new name to honor an Aboriginal Australian
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  Speaker 1: instead of a white why not name it after Faith Thomas,
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  Speaker 1: who reminds us of the best of Australia, and not
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  Speaker 1: named after lowcho' donahue. Instead promoted a myth about our racism,
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  Speaker 1: and the reason, of course is politics. Multiculturalism, the politics
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  Speaker 1: of division, and the only senior Liberal to protest that
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  Speaker 1: this act of cultural vandalism, this multicultural madness, it's again
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  Speaker 1: Tony Abbott who has denounced the latest example of official
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  Speaker 1: them's tendency to push change by stealth that alters how
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  Speaker 1: we see ourselves as Australians. Abbott is doing where the
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  Speaker 1: parliamentary Liberal leadership will not. He is fighting battles The
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  Speaker 1: Liberals in Parliament are leaving to Hanson in the cowardice
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  Speaker 1: or lack of conviction. And you wonder why the Liberals
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  Speaker 1: vote It's now to just nineteen percent. Well, Hanson's is soaring.
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  Speaker 1: You wonder why Tony Abbott may soon be the party's
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  Speaker 1: only hope in avoiding total destruction. Jeremy is Michael Kroger,
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  Speaker 1: former president of the Victorian Liberals, and Steve Conroy, former
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  Speaker 1: Labor senator and Cabinet minister. Michael Paulin. Hansen did not
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  Speaker 1: say she lamented the end of the white Australian polity.
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  Speaker 1: She did not say she wanted it brought back. Why
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  Speaker 1: are the mediate Labor and even some Liberals lying about her?
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  Speaker 1: And is this really the way to destroy her?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 15: But look what's happening is this Hanson threatens the sixty
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  Speaker 15: year March through the institutions that the left have been
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  Speaker 15: pursuing since the nineteen sixties, the mass through the schools,
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  Speaker 15: the universities, big government, big unions, Big Australia, the corporate
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  Speaker 15: community wanting more immigrants, government institutions. Hanson's threatening to roll
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  Speaker 15: back this left wing edifice, and that's why she's such
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  Speaker 15: an enormous threat to the left. So the challenge for
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  Speaker 15: us is not only to concentrate at our major issue,
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  Speaker 15: which is the Australian economy, but also to respect the
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  Speaker 15: fact that thirty percent of the Australian community agree with Hanson,
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  Speaker 15: and there's no point dismissing her. They are concerned about
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  Speaker 15: the march through Australia and how Australia is radically changing
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  Speaker 15: as the country. The inner city elaits are doing incredibly well,
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  Speaker 15: and the further you get from the CBD, the worse
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  Speaker 15: the country is doing. That's what she represents and that's
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  Speaker 15: why she's such a threat to the established institutions in
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  Speaker 15: this country.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew stephen Way's labor so desperate to say that she
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  Speaker 1: wanted white Australia. When she says she did not, and
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  Speaker 1: she didn't say it either.
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  Speaker 13: Well, look, I think she should have taken your advice, Andrew,
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  Speaker 13: and not appeared with that.
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  Speaker 1: You know that thug.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, as she was challengeding I didn't do her research.
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  Speaker 13: He led her up the garden path. He gave her
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  Speaker 13: a leading question and she fell right into the trap.
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  Speaker 13: I mean to me, I watched it last night and
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  Speaker 13: to me it sounded like a bit of a lament.
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  Speaker 13: But look, I'll be generous. It was a wishful sigh.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, the question was she says, I hate what
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  Speaker 13: the countries become. The cause of it is the pakistanis
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  Speaker 13: in the fall of the white Australia policy. It's not
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  Speaker 13: that hard to draw the line, Andrew. Now you might,
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  Speaker 13: you know, you might think that's an over d It.
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  Speaker 1: Was reported as facts, Stephen, not an inference. I believe
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  Speaker 1: that what she really meant, which wouldn't make her headline. No,
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  Speaker 1: it was a hard it was a hard conclusion. She
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  Speaker 1: said it, she did not say it. That's when I
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  Speaker 1: say it is a lie. It is a spear. She
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  Speaker 1: denies saying it. She didn't say it, But Labour says
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  Speaker 1: she did, and I just think and Soda journalists, I
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  Speaker 1: think that is absolutely wrong. It's not the way to act.
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  Speaker 1: Then it's just leading labor down the garden path. Have
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  Speaker 1: to say. But Michael, this whole thing now of Tony
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  Speaker 1: Abbott being the one senior Liberal being the president now
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  Speaker 1: of the party who says multiculturalism is failed and tackling
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  Speaker 1: these kinds of issues and getting shouted down by the
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  Speaker 1: likes of Andrew Bragg. I mean, it does make me
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  Speaker 1: wonder the way the polls are now for the Liberals,
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  Speaker 1: is Abbot a future leader, possibly because I don't know
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  Speaker 1: who is is well.
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  Speaker 15: Angus hasn't been there long and he's had to deal
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  Speaker 15: with the hurricane of Hanson, as labor have as well,
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  Speaker 15: So we're both dealing with that, both of the major
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  Speaker 15: parties are dealing with that. Look to the substance of
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  Speaker 15: what Tony says, there's an element of truth to what
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  Speaker 15: he's saying. I mean, the multicultural experiment in this country
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  Speaker 15: hasn't failed, but it is certainly failing. Fifteen hundred and
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  Speaker 15: seventy six anti Semitic incidents were reported to the Jewish
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  Speaker 15: community's security service last year. It was revealed in the
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  Speaker 15: Royal Commission today over fifteen hundred cases of anti Semitism
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  Speaker 15: in Australia last year alone, an increase of twenty two
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  Speaker 15: percent on the year before. Tell me that our social experiment,
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  Speaker 15: that our multicultural community is working well. When the Jewish
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  Speaker 15: community have to have their own security service CSG Hatsalah,
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  Speaker 15: which is an ambulance and medical service as well, how's
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  Speaker 15: Australia going. Social cohesion in Australia has never been worse
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  Speaker 15: in my whole lifetime. I've never seen it worse under
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  Speaker 15: the Albanesi government. So you know, of course what Abbot
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  Speaker 15: is saying, there are elements of truth in what he's saying.
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  Speaker 15: I just hope it hasn't failed. I just hope it's failing.
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  Speaker 15: And the corrective course of action by clamping down on
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  Speaker 15: Islamic extremism, which is the main problem in Australia today.
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  Speaker 15: Let's hope that the Muslim community can do more to
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  Speaker 15: stamp that out, and state and federal governments can do
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  Speaker 15: more to stamp that out.
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  Speaker 1: That will go a long way.
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  Speaker 15: To restoring social cohesion in this country.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew, Yeah, but of course, supremaci of a question was
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  Speaker 1: that the senior Liberals are not doing that. They're too
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  Speaker 1: gutless to do it, and they feel some I think
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  Speaker 1: that well Hans has spoiled it for us, so we
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  Speaker 1: can't go there now. They never wanted to and never will.
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  Speaker 1: I suspect some of them, but Stephen I, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to let Labor off the hook. I mean, for all
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: these attacks on Hansen, and she has at a rough time.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I've been attacking her as well. She's said quite a
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: rough time. And yet you know she's level pegging in
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: news poll with Labor. With all the help that the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: media has been given to this crusader Naylor, she's still
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: as popular as the government. What's gone wrong?
• 20:35
  Speaker 13: She is benefiting off two different things. Firstly that the
• 20:40
  Speaker 13: Liberal Party are hopeless and they've been proven to helpless
• 20:44
  Speaker 13: and those are your words and others' words in terms
• 20:48
  Speaker 13: of their performance. So she's getting a huge swagger votes.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: From therefore pegging with one nation, but also.
• 20:58
  Speaker 13: Votes four in ten votes from Liberals and one in
• 21:02
  Speaker 13: ten from US. That is not a reason for labor
• 21:05
  Speaker 13: be complacent. That is absolutely not a reason for labor
• 21:08
  Speaker 13: to be complacent. They need to be pushing forward on
• 21:12
  Speaker 13: economic growth. They need to be delivering in health and
• 21:16
  Speaker 13: education and cleaning up the NDIS, which is what they're
• 21:20
  Speaker 13: working on. So Labour needs to start putting runs on
• 21:23
  Speaker 13: the board, not saying they're not. But the way to
• 21:25
  Speaker 13: counter Hansen from sort of labor from what nation career
• 21:31
  Speaker 13: is labor voters is to demonstrate the conviction of our
• 21:36
  Speaker 13: values and continue to engage which Australian public on our values,
• 21:40
  Speaker 13: not just letting kicking up Pauline Hanson. That is not
• 21:44
  Speaker 13: a solution that the Liberal Party who have to fight
• 21:47
  Speaker 13: her for their votes mainly, and we get on with
• 21:49
  Speaker 13: doing our job delivering for working Australians.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Michael Crowe, Stephen Conroy, thank you so much to you both.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: After the break, the around war has just got even worse.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump photo bombs the FIFA World Cup final ceremony
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: at the end. What does that tell us.
• 22:13
  Speaker 11: Now?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: The world is such turmoil as I haven't seen in
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: many years, which comes to think of it as a
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: little bit like what President is ing Ping of China
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: keeps saying too, change is not seen in generations. Ukraine,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the good users, I guess Ukraine is now hitting all
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: facilities and logistic hubs in Russia with huge fleets of drones,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: causing him huge disruption and also massive clouds of smoke
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: over Moscow and Russia in revenge on the weekend smash
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Ukraine's capital Kiv with more than forty missiles aimed at
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: civilian targets, knowing that Ukraine has run out of patriot
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: missile defenses to shoot them down. And that's, of course,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: because the US one refuses now to donate Ukraine a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: single weapon, and two needs plenty of patriots for its
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: allies in the Middle East, where war in Iran is
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: now getting more and more intense, with the US yesterday
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: punishing around even more for killing three American soldiers in Jordan.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: And then there's China watching bud in its time back
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: at last from his working holiday in Europe investigating some
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: of the mayhem up close is the country Sovereign affairs
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: writer Greg Sheridan of The Australian. Greg, great to see
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you again. Have you come back from all your deep
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: discussions with experts over there and whatever? Have you come
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: back depressed or with more hope? Well, Andrew, it's great
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to talk to you.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: And as an Irishman, I'm always cheerful, but intellectually it's
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: a pretty.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Full lawn outlook.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I must say Britain impressed me as a very scrappy, rundown,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: messed up place, and we're heading in exactly the same
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: direct And there is a lack of strategic leadership in
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the West from Trump and all through Western Europe and
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: in Canberra. So you know, if you had to give
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: a one word cable back to Head Office from your
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: diplomatic post, you'd say the situation is run.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Well, look at Britain's really a warning to us. And
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that's essentially what Kapaul announcer was saying in a clumsy
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: way with that terrible company from Britain. But let's have
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: a look first of the war in Iran. Where is
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that headed, greg, especially now that Auran has killed three
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: American soldiers in a missile attack on Jordan, and this
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: is after we were told, oh no, no, we've degraded
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: their missile capability.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I want America to triumph over Iran.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: But at no point in this matter has Trump told
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: us the truth about anything. And that makes it very
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: hard to mobilize support for the American effort. It seems
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: to me neither America nor Iran can compromise. Iran won't
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: give up control of the Strait of hor Moves, and
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: it believes it can withstand any punishment that America will
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: meet out to it. Trump or Washington, for its part,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: cannot allow Iran to continue to control the Straight of
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: hor Moos because that means strategically we're in a worse
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: position than we were before the whole war erupted. We
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: have degraded Iran's military capabilities to a large extent, but
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: they can certainly still control the Straight of hor Moves. Now,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: the question is does Iran run out of endurance before
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Trump runs out of conviction. My worry a bit is
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: that Trump is going to face deadlines which the Iranians
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: know only too well. You know, he has to seek
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: permission from Congress after the conflict goes on for a
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: certain amount of time. Very hard to get that permission,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: even from a Republican Congress, and he's going to almost
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: certainly lose the House of Representatives in the midterms, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: the Congress could do to him what they did to
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the South Vietnamese in nineteen seventy four seventy five, and
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: just withdraw support for the American military venture, and you
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: know the sad thing in the meantime, Andrew is I
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: think we see more of the same for some time
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: going forward. This peace deal fell over because Iran wouldn't
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: honor the side of the agreement which said it would
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: let the straight of hoor Moves be open, and there's
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: no sign that it's going to change its mind on that.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: In order to give up the enrich uranium a uranium
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: close through weapons grade. Well, you mentioned Donald Trump, you know,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: running out of convictions. Also, it's got a it's a
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: very impulsive, wilful man, and so much is his own
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: pride and all that. So that's a hard thing to factor.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I think. I wonder whether you think we got a
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: glimpse of that in the FIFA World Cup final in
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: New Jersey this morning when he presented the trophy to
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Spain but then refuse to get out of the picture
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: until the FIFA boss finally almost had to man handle
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: him out of the shot. When you see that, Greg,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: do you think, well, that's a visual clue into understanding
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the Trump presidency.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do, Edrew, I think that's a brilliant moment really,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, Trump is kind of beyond analysis now. And
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: beyond satire and beyond parody. I mean, I think Trump
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: does some good things and some bad things. I'm not
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: a total, you know, Trump hater, nor am I a
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: total Trump supporter, But this kind of crazy narcissism, what
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: makes it almost endearing is that it is so absolutely
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: blatant and shameless. You know, he has nothing to do
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: with the Spanish football team. He's kind of at war
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: with the Spanish government and threatening to break off all
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: NATO cooperation with him.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: And so forth.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: And there he is determined to stand in the picture,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: having just declared that the World Cup held in the
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: United States was, of course, the greatest sporting event in
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: all world history. On a serious note, though he's now
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: eighty years old, he's more erratic than he was in
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: his first term. He has fewer adults around him, maybe
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Rubio and the Treasury Secretary Scott Vessant and to some
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: extent JD. Vance, and he doesn't seem to give a dam.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: He is condemning the Republicans to a pretty disastrous result
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: in the midterms, it would seem.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: And he's reached a point now.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Where he couldn't care less about anybody's opinion, and he
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: is completely self absorbed in his own myth and his
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: own energy. And people ask me all the time to say,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: who's up and who's down in the Trump administration. That's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: not a relevant question anymore. What you've got to analyze
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: is what's up and what's down in Trump's own mind,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: and that's very that's increasingly quite quite difficult task to undertake. Greg.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I'm actually run out of time, but we do want
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: a quick hot take from you, because later in the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: show I'm going to cross the London to talk about
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Britain today getting it seventh prime minister in just ten years,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: which is an embarrassing record. Its former Manchester Mayor Andy
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Burnham of Labour's left wing. What are you expecting from him? Well, look,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I think more of the same, only worse.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Really, he's a bit smoother than Kiers Starmer, but he
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: comes from the left of Kiers Starmer. He says that
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Britain's key need is to get rid of neoliberalism.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: He wants to spend a lot more.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: He wants to devolve power into the regions, which has
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: been really pretty catastrophic for Britain because it just contributes
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: to the fiscal confusion. There's no sign at all that
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: he can come to grips with Britain's massive welfare bill.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: You know, a million young people neither in employment, education
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: or training. There's no sign at all that he can
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: take the hard decisions Britain needs to take. Having said
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: all that, you know he's very, very flexible, and who knows,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: he may even change every know the habits of a
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: lifetime and embrace good policy. You wish him well, but
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: it's hard to see any real promise there.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Greg Sheridan, great to have you back. Thank you so
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: much for returning and being on the show. Appreciate it.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: After the break, you're not going to believe this, the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: ABC's vicious and obscene attack on billionaire Gina Rona. Dependel
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: on that after this a little taste caution by the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: way of something coming up. I heard something so disgusting
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: on the ABC which we're all forced to pay for.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Something the ABC could have stopped from going to air
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: and chose not to. Now before I show it, and
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you're not going to believe your ears. Remember two things. First,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: ABC chairman Kim william said on Sky News last week, Oh,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the ABC isn't biased, And second, the ABC doesn't just
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: have a duty to be impartial, but a duty in
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: its own words on its website to create ABC content
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: in a way that is respectful towards audiences and mindful
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: of community standards in areas like harm and offense. So
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: to the ABC's show Race Around the World, in which
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: six budding filmmakers go from country to country to make
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: short films which are then shown on that show each week,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and contestant Kate McGinnis, well, she's just been in Scotland
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: where she filmed some random idiot claiming to be some
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: kind of traditional Scottish forest warrior ninja who could teach
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: us to be at one with nature. Oh, and Kate
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: loved this, you know, using sticks in particular, which Kate
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: did think could save us.
• 32:27
  Speaker 14: The world isn't going to end with a bang. It
• 32:30
  Speaker 14: will just gradually fall apart, and when our society crumbles,
• 32:35
  Speaker 14: these down to earth skills may come in handy, which
• 32:42
  Speaker 14: brings us to our next step. Playing with sticks.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Now, Kate went on with this love and hugs and
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: peace waffle and then ended it with a message of utter,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: utter hatred for one woman, a friend of mine, actually
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: a moaning billionaire Gena Ronhart.
• 33:05
  Speaker 14: Because when the revolution comes, will you hide under your
• 33:09
  Speaker 14: bed or will you know exactly how to shove a
• 33:13
  Speaker 14: stick right off Gena E. Reinhart's butthole, stirring it around,
• 33:18
  Speaker 14: mixing her guts up nice and smooth, making her into
• 33:23
  Speaker 14: one big sausage role to make something out of nothing.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: That obscene and vicious rant, that poornographic vision of violence,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: which the ABC must have seen at advance, that went
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to air. The ABC still chose to show it, And
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: of the four people on that show who then were
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: jury and host, just one of them had even a
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: word of mild criticism, and that was ABC presenter Lee Sales.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: I really did quite like it, But then I had
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: a bone to pick, which is that you shifted the
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: tone from a film that was kind of universal and
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: including all of us and saying, hey, do I feel
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: like nothing, We've all got problems, We're all in this together,
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: and then you backed it in with a very easy,
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: kind of nasty gag about Gena Reinhart. So what you
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: were saying to the viewer was, we're all in this
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: together unless you don't share my politics, unless you're Gena Reinhart.
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: Ha ha ha ha.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: That was the only criticism. Joining me Alisa Goddard, former
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: foreign correspondent and founder of ad Only Media and scoone
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: New's host to Nikko di Georgio, Lisa, I mean, talk
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: about coming spinner, but should the ABC have put that
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: film to air now?
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: Taxpayer funded? Vile crew, reprehensible, The adjectives can just keep
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: going on. Gena Reinhart is one of this country's great leaders.
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: I did the sums Andrew. She pays it two point
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: six billion dollars in taxes last year alone. That would
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: buy the ABC twice over for one year. And this
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: is how they mock her. And that is exactly what
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: it is. It is disgusting. And this was put out
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: against anybody, particularly from the left. Could you imagine the
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: outcry we would have And we seem to have these
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: conversations nearly every other week about this has said about
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: someone on the right, and no one from the left
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: will speak up about it. But if it's said about
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: someone on the left, will, goodness me, the whole world
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: would explode. So I think it's disgusting. I think the
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: ABC is not meeting its responsibilities when it comes to
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: as you say, respect community, any of the standards, and
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: I really hope that a complaint is put into ACHMA
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: over it.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: At the very least, I think the chairman should be
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: writing now a letter of deep apology to and the
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: mansion Erictor as well to Gina Rohinhad. What does it say,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Danika about the ABC This fantasy of graphic and obscene
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: violence against the woman is shown with just one of
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the jury members having any criticism at all of it.
• 36:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and I mean the people clearly that they're picking
• 36:07
  Speaker 9: for that jury panel. It's not representative of Australia. They're
• 36:12
  Speaker 9: not getting everybody's viewpoints, They're only getting the viewpoints on
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: this show that suit this bias narrative. I actually think
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: that the comments were abhorrent. They are appalling. Gina Reinhardt
• 36:24
  Speaker 9: has paid her taxes. There is a reason why she
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: is one of the most successful business women in this country.
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: Her business is the backbone of mining, therefore props up
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: our economy tenfold. And I think the ABC could learn
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: a lot from Gina Reinhart about what it is to
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: be a hard worker, because clearly the ABC do not
• 36:43
  Speaker 9: work hard enough. And to Lisa's point, can you imagine
• 36:46
  Speaker 9: if say one of us or anybody you know from
• 36:49
  Speaker 9: Conservative Politics said something to the effect of to say,
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: Lee Sales, maybe what about their new recruit, Grace Tame.
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: The media would have a field day, the left wing media,
• 36:59
  Speaker 9: the Guardian, the ABC would all get involved. But because
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: it's Gina Reinhart, nobody even Bat's an eyelid. And I
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: just think that absolutely, at the very least, the chairman
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: should be writing a public apology because it's disgusting what
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: was said.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I just remember the LIFTS outrage and media outrage,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the ABC outrage when some donkeys said something about you
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: can't come into the physical appearance of Julia Gillard. This
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: trump's that and the ABC actually screens it as I
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: can't believe it. It's just astonishing and sorry you were.
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: Saying something, and Andrew, as you say, we all know
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: how newsrooms work. This didn't just magically appear on air
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: with anybody having seen it beforehand, so it would have
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: had to go through many layers of approval before it
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: got to that point. So goodness knows what we said
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: in the various edit sweets or production meetings about the
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: laughter that went on. They thought it was funny to
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: mock this great Australian's that's who needs to be held
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: to account. Where is the investigation who said this was okay.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: To go to air? Is that what we and Gina
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Rhna pay the ABC to do? Is this the higher
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: cultural standards? This is this why we have a public broadcast?
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: What is the public service in this? By the way,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I was struck, Denika. You've got Pauline Hanson,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: so much media obsession and political obsession about Hanson going
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: overseas and to Italy, to Sicily. In fact, you know, oh,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: she shouldn't be there yet at the same time, you
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: had three coalitions six labor in peace also over around Italy.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And what was she doing at that Dulcea and Gabbana
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: fashion show in Sicily which is supposed to be a
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: warman to the people. Here's her response to the critics.
• 38:49
  Speaker 12: Yes, I went to Cicily.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Yes, I went to the Adultshi Kabana fashion show.
• 38:56
  Speaker 13: One experience.
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: I was invited to go and thought.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Well, I've never been to anything like that, and I thought, yes,
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go and see it is my scene.
• 39:04
  Speaker 13: No no in the world world.
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: But it was an experience.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: It was fabulous, fantastic to see.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Now Danika does all that time that she's been spending
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: in Italy hurt her living the hid life make her
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: look like a hypocrite or does it in fact make
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: her seem a bit more worldly.
• 39:21
  Speaker 9: You're asking somebody with an Italian background Andrew whether or
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: not to pull in handsome should be in Italy? Goodness
• 39:28
  Speaker 9: me is the popa Catholic as we say, look good
• 39:31
  Speaker 9: on her. I just don't see the problem with her
• 39:34
  Speaker 9: being overseas, being on holidays. Every other MP is allowed
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: to take a break. The Prime Minister last week said
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: he couldn't go to the Garma Festival because he hasn't
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: taken a day off in a year. But you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 9: we've got to make a big deal out of it.
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: And then they're upset that she was at a Dulce
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: and Gabanna fashion show, And it got me thinking, do
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: you remember when the former Indigenous Affairs MP Linda Bernie
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: went out into an Aboriginal community draped in Prada and
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: you know that that was okay. But as soon as
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: Pauline Hansen's an adult chained Gavanna fashion show while or
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: she can't possibly be a woman of the people. For
• 40:07
  Speaker 9: goodness sake, this woman has come from a small business background,
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: a single mother. She knows what it is like to
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: be the woman of the people. So I think that
• 40:17
  Speaker 9: the criticism is absolutely pathetic. She will come back here
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  Speaker 9: and I guarantee you she'll still be doing pretty well
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  Speaker 9: in the polling, and judging by the latest News poll,
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  Speaker 9: she certainly is.
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  Speaker 1: Lisa. I'm actually out of time, but quickly, as a
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: communications expert, would you say to would you've said to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Pauline don't go to the Dulcia Gevana thing? Or you
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: would you think, hey, why not scramble categories?
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  Speaker 8: Oh look, I think it's great and you know what
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: to pick up On Danika's point, she was sixteen years
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: old when she fell pregnant. The Liberal Party is all
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  Speaker 8: about aspiration, right, and godness knows how many times we've
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  Speaker 8: heard Anthony Elbanezi's story about the Housing Commission and growing
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: up in Housing Commission. This is a woman who's proving
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: you can be aspirational. You can go for being a
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: sixteen year old pregnant girl to be at the Dolcee
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  Speaker 8: ban a fashion show in Italy and writing number one
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  Speaker 8: of the polls in this country. So I think good honor.
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  Speaker 1: Her hands up audience, members, particularly the women who would
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: have gone in her place in Lisa got who say no,
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  Speaker 1: hse no, Lisa Di Nikko de Georgio. Thank you very
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  Speaker 1: much to you both. After the break, Britain gets its
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  Speaker 1: seventh prime minister in ten years, will you in fact
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: be one of the worst yet we'll cross the London Well,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, Britain is becoming the Italy
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  Speaker 1: of the North. Seventh prime minister today in just ten
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  Speaker 1: years seven former Manchester City Mayor Andy Burnham replacing Keyostam,
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  Speaker 1: who has been forced out for being so catastrophically unpopular
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  Speaker 1: after just two helpless years. Well, let's talk about that
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  Speaker 1: with Samara Gill, Talk TV hosts in London and our
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Monday regular commentator Samara, Thanks for your ton. Has Burnham
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  Speaker 1: yet said I think it's due to give a big
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: speech today? Has he yet said what he'll do that's different?
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  Speaker 12: Look, all we're getting from him, Andrew is this sort
• 42:14
  Speaker 12: of John Lennon esque growth in every postcode, hope in
• 42:19
  Speaker 12: every heart. That's literally the campaign message that he's putting
• 42:23
  Speaker 12: towards the people. Nothing on immigration, pretty much, nothing on
• 42:27
  Speaker 12: foreign policy, and more importantly nothing on our healthcare system.
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  Speaker 12: How our foreign debt is going to be dealt with,
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: and how our defense budget is going to be sequested.
• 42:38
  Speaker 12: So I think everyone's a little nervous and jittery, to
• 42:41
  Speaker 12: be honest, for the welcoming in of a prime minister
• 42:44
  Speaker 12: that we quite frankly know nothing about. This guy completely
• 42:48
  Speaker 12: operates on vibes and I'm not even joking here, he
• 42:52
  Speaker 12: really does that. He's only taken one interview in the
• 42:57
  Speaker 12: lead up to him taking over the prime ministership and.
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  Speaker 1: That's with a ex footballer.
• 43:02
  Speaker 12: So it is really unseerious for a country that actually
• 43:06
  Speaker 12: needs someone with a bit of grit and determination right now.
• 43:10
  Speaker 12: You know, we're in time of great austerity over in
• 43:13
  Speaker 12: Britain and this guy is just dancing in like at
• 43:16
  Speaker 12: some sort of Oasis concert and thinking that he's going
• 43:19
  Speaker 12: to control the country in a very very ridiculous way.
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  Speaker 1: It's so strange and you know, a big government, all
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff and nationalizing potentially industries as a tip.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: It's just doesn't he realize that Margaret Thatcher reformed all
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: that and made Britain work a bit better. I mean,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I talk about you know, going back to the past,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: but why has Britain become what Italy used to be.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's so unstable. Seven prime ministers in ten years.
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  Speaker 1: How on earth has that happened.
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  Speaker 12: It's a really good question, Andrew, and I think because
• 43:59
  Speaker 12: Britain is fundamentally broken. There are so many different systems
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  Speaker 12: that need to be reformed in order to get the
• 44:06
  Speaker 12: country back on its feet. I think the Boris wave
• 44:10
  Speaker 12: of mass migration three point two million people coming into
• 44:13
  Speaker 12: the country over at one point two million in just
• 44:16
  Speaker 12: one year, which put massive amount of pressure on our
• 44:19
  Speaker 12: health systems, our housing markets, etc. Has been a real problem.
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  Speaker 12: But also I think the fact that there's a litany
• 44:28
  Speaker 12: of mediocrity within Westminster. You know, Britain used to be
• 44:31
  Speaker 12: the country which produced some of the best and finest
• 44:35
  Speaker 12: in the world, and unfortunately politics is not what it
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  Speaker 12: once was. When you look at someone like Andy Burnham,
• 44:42
  Speaker 12: he's mediocre at best. Keir Starmer, although to be honest,
• 44:47
  Speaker 12: he ticked a lot of boxers in terms of how
• 44:49
  Speaker 12: he was, you know, leader of the CPS. He was
• 44:51
  Speaker 12: a great barrister. Well he wasn't a great barrister. He
• 44:53
  Speaker 12: defended a lot of very questionable characters. But for a
• 44:56
  Speaker 12: labor leader, he wasn't bad, but I think the fact
• 44:59
  Speaker 12: that we keep putting mediocre people in positions of power
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  Speaker 12: is a massive issue. And I think you're right, it's
• 45:06
  Speaker 12: completely destabilizing because, as you said, Burnham is coming in
• 45:10
  Speaker 12: and he's kind of throwing the mandate that Starmer got
• 45:13
  Speaker 12: elected on nearly two years ago out the window of
• 45:16
  Speaker 12: ten Downing Street, and he's going to replace the entire
• 45:19
  Speaker 12: Front Cabinet, which again will upend any of the policies
• 45:23
  Speaker 12: that they might have been trying to enact. So it
• 45:25
  Speaker 12: really is woeful and I think countries like China, Russia,
• 45:29
  Speaker 12: India are laughing at the fact that the UK, a
• 45:32
  Speaker 12: once great nation, seems to be in a shambles.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think also one of the problems is
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: what we're seeing here. You know, the Liberals and Conservatives
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: in Britain are turned into lay the light to you know,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: will snooker them that way? And both don't. Neither party
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: now is has the solution to Britain's the client or
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: the leadership. So we shall see you if kemmy Bednock
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: or Nigia Farage they can do any different. Did Pauline
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Hanson creating any waves at all in Britain during a visit.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I mean she gave a speech at a conference that
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: where tom was only a third full the Conservative one.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: She did meet Nigel Faraj and Robert Jenrick of the
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Reform Party and Tommy Robinson. But what media coverage, if any,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: did she get over there.
• 46:23
  Speaker 12: It's a good question, Andrew. Honestly, she got a decent amount.
• 46:27
  Speaker 12: But I think her association with Tommy Robinson really hurt
• 46:30
  Speaker 12: her because he is not safe for press over here.
• 46:34
  Speaker 12: He's a very morally dubious character. Even people like Nigel
• 46:37
  Speaker 12: Farage will not associate with him, will not mention his name.
• 46:41
  Speaker 12: So I think she really did make a bad decision
• 46:44
  Speaker 12: making sure that she met up with him as soon
• 46:47
  Speaker 12: as she stepped foot in the country. I was at
• 46:49
  Speaker 12: Sea Park. I had a good chat with Pauline. She
• 46:52
  Speaker 12: actually came up to me saying that she watches our
• 46:55
  Speaker 12: segment on this show and that she enjoys it. And
• 46:58
  Speaker 12: I was sort of taking because I was like, Pauline,
• 47:01
  Speaker 12: what are you doing? I thought I was meant to
• 47:02
  Speaker 12: come up to you and interrogate what you're doing here
• 47:06
  Speaker 12: and what your sort of your policies for Australia are.
• 47:10
  Speaker 12: But she you know, she was there with Gina ryan Hart.
• 47:12
  Speaker 12: She didn't make I think as big a ways as
• 47:15
  Speaker 12: she probably wanted to be. She is a good export
• 47:18
  Speaker 12: for us because she speaks in a very very core
• 47:22
  Speaker 12: Australian accent, and people do love what she says. She's
• 47:25
  Speaker 12: a great communicator. But I'm not sure it was exactly
• 47:28
  Speaker 12: the trip that she might have envisioned. And as I said,
• 47:32
  Speaker 12: I think it's because she associated herself a little too
• 47:35
  Speaker 12: far right for her to have any commercial value over here.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I thought that was a big shame and a big mistake,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: and I hope that she sees it as a mistake
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: instead of defending it. I got to say too, Sophie
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: ells with the Herold's son and she both Sky as well.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: She's been there having fun, going around Glasgow with a
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: mock chick of nearly two million dollars, giving it to
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: locals there. That's the money that Victoria paid to hold
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: the Comwealth Games in Glasgow starts in less than a week,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: compensation for having to pay for canceling the contract. You're
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: saying to hold the games of Victoria. It's such a
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: bustard flush. It's a really gratitude over there.
• 48:20
  Speaker 12: Honestly, Andrew, the roads in Victoria look like the surface
• 48:23
  Speaker 12: of the moon. Yet one of the biggest checks the
• 48:25
  Speaker 12: Victorian government has written lately was to cancel the games
• 48:28
  Speaker 12: that are promised to host. It's ridiculous. Only a state
• 48:31
  Speaker 12: like Victoria could manage to spend over almost two hundred
• 48:34
  Speaker 12: million dollars without actually hosting a single event. What are
• 48:38
  Speaker 12: shambles you know, Ambulance service targets missed, emergency services missed,
• 48:42
  Speaker 12: and waits and recycling seventy five percent of the targets missed.
• 48:45
  Speaker 12: Ridiculous and as.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: You say, bustard roads that we burst our third tire
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: on them just the last week. Samara Gill, thank you
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: so much for your time.
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: Up.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: There's Sherry Markson. She's back. Goodnighte