Latest / Millennial Mustard Seed / S5 190. Basil, Gonz, Michael & Aaron - N.C. & legendary Roundtable
Transcript
- 0:01Hello folks, this is Princess. You are listening to the
- 0:04Millennial Mustard Seed podcast. Thanks for listening.
- 0:07Don't forget to share with your friends.
- 0:11That's tough. We're in a very tough spot.
- 0:13I think that what we're doing right now is a great benefit and
- 0:17virtue because it's an end around between this whole
- 0:21corrupt informational system, media system.
- 0:25We claim to believe in a God who spoke the universe into
- 0:28existence and literally raised himself from the dead, and yet
- 0:33we are not going to believe that anything else exists in the
- 0:36spirit realm, even though his word tells us that they do.
- 0:40Their bodies weren't permitted to go to sleep like humans do,
- 0:44and they weren't permitted to go to heaven, so they wander the
- 0:47earth. You know, I've seen the eyes
- 0:50turn black to unknown tongues being spoken.
- 0:55These giants would love way up in the Highland, the young
- 0:58Braves, the young men would hide them in the trees.
- 1:01They'd wait for one of these 12 footers to come walking down the
- 1:03bath and they would jump on them and kill them, drag them back in
- 1:07the village, and the village would feast on the body freedom.
- 1:15Then people start to get weapons, they start to get
- 1:17armor, they start to build cities, they start to fortify
- 1:19their cities. Now God looks down and there's
- 1:22violence everywhere. The battle, this war that we are
- 1:26at is not against each other. It's against these
- 1:29principalities and these rulers and these archons in the high
- 1:31places. It's really worthwhile to read
- 1:34the Bible yourself. Fear is one of the primary
- 1:37drivers of mind control because we have to take every thought
- 1:42captive and resist fear. You're going to have a testimony
- 1:49that is a justice case against the Kingdom of darkness.
- 2:14Welcome back to the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
- 2:18I'm your host Rod, and I have a legendary episode for you guys.
- 2:24This is a collaboration with Basil and Guns from Canary Cry
- 2:29Radio and Canary Cry News Talk and Michael Basham from Fringe
- 2:34Radio Network and Spirit Force. And of course, we have Aaron
- 2:38Christian Davis joining this discussion to talk about his
- 2:43Boots on the ground experience in North Carolina, specifically
- 2:48in the places that were heavily hit from the past hurricanes.
- 2:52This is a bombshell round table episode because we get into so
- 2:56much heavy conversation talking about what's really going on
- 3:01from a boots on the ground perspective in North Carolina,
- 3:05information that gets covered on Canary Cry News, talk from Basil
- 3:09and Gans, and also speaking faith and life.
- 3:13And having this conversation with these men is encouraging
- 3:17and eye opening and there's so many great perspectives that are
- 3:20shared. I do want to say I got an e-mail
- 3:24from a listener named Carrie, so I'm going to give her a shout
- 3:27out right now. I'm not going to say her last
- 3:28name, but she did a song called Appalachia You Are Loved, and I
- 3:34play that at the end of this episode.
- 3:36She asked me to share this with some people in Appalachia that
- 3:39have been affected. And this is a heartfelt, like
- 3:42prayer warrior song from the heart of a mother that's not too
- 3:46far outside of the affected area where her and her husband have a
- 3:49ministry. I know on one of the emails I
- 3:52read recently, she said her and her sons were listening to some
- 3:56of the content I was creating in regards to what has happened in
- 4:00specifically the Carolinas, the aftermath.
- 4:03Her and her sons were heavily encouraged by some of these
- 4:06recordings here on the MMS. So I just wanted to give her a
- 4:10quick shout out and you can look forward to that song being
- 4:12played at the end of this episode.
- 4:15Now, the cool thing about this recording is going out on
- 4:18multiple different platforms. This will show up on Spirit
- 4:21Force. It'll show up on Fringe Radio
- 4:23Network. It's also going to show up on
- 4:25Canary Cry Radio. The banner that's over top of
- 4:29this episode is Never Underestimate the Power of Love.
- 4:34And I think we're learning over here on the MMS just the how
- 4:38much power is in love and collaboration and just getting
- 4:42to know people that are out there.
- 4:44You know, so many things go through my mind as I realize how
- 4:47cool this is that God has given me a platform to be able to
- 4:50connect with people that at one point in time I was just
- 4:52listening to while working in a factory years and years ago.
- 4:57And now I'm actually talking with guys like Basil and Guns
- 5:00who I've stood on their shoulders and they have really
- 5:03paved the way in so many ways. So I just want to honor both of
- 5:06them and it just encourage you guys to share this episode far
- 5:10and wide. It's heartfelt, it's eye
- 5:12opening. We get into a little bit of
- 5:14conspiratorial topics, but it's so much more than that because
- 5:18we're kind of passing the mic back and forth asking Aaron
- 5:21questions about what he's experienced.
- 5:23I mean, he got bit by a poisonous spider.
- 5:26He's had bears coming close to the camp, he's had interactions
- 5:30with the local militias with churches down there, and it's
- 5:33just really an amazing perspective to see his faith in
- 5:36action, him saying yes, the power of yes, and going into
- 5:40this, these towns that have just been decimated from the past
- 5:46hurricanes. I really appreciate you guys for
- 5:48listening and sharing these episodes.
- 5:50I'll give a real quick maintenance update.
- 5:54I have disabled listener support, which means there's a
- 5:57lot of you out there that got an e-mail saying I'm no longer
- 6:00accepting listener support. I've done that in favor of you
- 6:04guys who are supporting the show.
- 6:06I've put a link in the details of the show notes.
- 6:09This is called subscription support, so you guys can do a
- 6:13subscription on a monthly basis at $7.99 that will give you
- 6:18access to the entire Millennial Muscle C content.
- 6:21Ad free. 0 ads being played. Also bonus content.
- 6:25You'll get access to special subscriber only content.
- 6:29Uninterrupted episodes. That means each episode no ads
- 6:33are going to be played for you. There's no breakup in the flow
- 6:35of the conversation. Early access to content.
- 6:38You guys are going to get extended episodes, Video content
- 6:41and backlog access to every episode. 100% ad free and when
- 6:47you guys subscribe, it will automatically give me your
- 6:49e-mail address. Therefore I can send out, you
- 6:53know, maybe once a quarter starting next year, like a thank
- 6:55you letter or some stickers or a bookmark or something really
- 6:59cool. We've been playing with ideas of
- 7:00how to thank the people that are literally investing into the
- 7:05Millennium Mustard Seed, the vision, the podcast, and
- 7:08everything that we have building momentum in the background.
- 7:11My ultimate goal is eventually get to a point where I can
- 7:14remove ads altogether, but that's going to take an army of
- 7:17volunteers to donate the 799 a month and also to pray and to
- 7:23help us meet needs over here. Unfortunately, this takes a lot
- 7:26of time with podcasting. It takes, my gosh, probably
- 7:2950-60 hours a month at minimum to do the research, the
- 7:33production, the scheduling, reading people's books.
- 7:36I mean, there's a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes.
- 7:38So I really am so thankful for everybody out there who believes
- 7:41in what God is calling me to do and who are partnering with me.
- 7:45And check the details of the show notes where you guys can
- 7:47find a copy of my book. The words are salt.
- 7:49And on this episode towards the end, actually read one of those
- 7:52poems and it really rattles up and and rattles the cage of
- 7:58Basil in the best way possible because he's affected by one of
- 8:02these speak pieces that I share with him.
- 8:04And he gives a synopsis on what he calls a very important topic
- 8:10for men, for the masculine heart.
- 8:12I have some great content in the library of things to edit for
- 8:16you guys coming out in the near future, some video content, but
- 8:20we're going to keep it traditional and do a majority of
- 8:23these eisodes audio only. I'm a strong believer in keeping
- 8:27your hands moving and not having to stare at a screen.
- 8:30Not that you have to watch the video eisodes, you can still
- 8:34listen to them, but I do want to keep my focus on the the old
- 8:37school way of doing this, which is broadcasting audio only.
- 8:41But you guys will get some video content and some special guest
- 8:44appearances via video content in the near future.
- 8:48And that pretty much wraps up maintenance.
- 8:50Like I said, this is a legendary episode with Canary Cry Radio,
- 8:54Fringe Radio Network, Spirit Force, yours truly Rod and Aaron
- 9:00Christian Davis. I think it's about time to jump
- 9:05into this episode. I'm ready.
- 9:07Are you guys ready? Let's go.
- 9:09Let's go. This is Rod Smith from
- 9:26southeastern PA. Aaron Christian Davis from
- 9:29Wilmington, NC. Michael Basham from Waynesville,
- 9:33NC. Basil Rosewater, Canary Cry News
- 9:37Talk Off the Grid, Interdimensional Time Traveler.
- 9:40Oh great. This is some credentials right
- 9:43there. Everybody gone Shimura from the
- 9:47land of new scum. Well, it's an honor to be with
- 9:55all of you men. I have summoned you all here
- 9:58today for one of the greatest messages, which is faith and
- 10:04hope and even tragedy and all of these things that are going on.
- 10:07And I just really want to honor each one of you guys, Michael,
- 10:11Aaron, Basil Gonz. And I've stood on the shoulders
- 10:15of Basil and Gonz way back in the day like they were the first
- 10:18people outside of Doctor Chuck Missler that I knew were like
- 10:22fringe and into airwaves. And it's just legendary to have
- 10:26you 2 here with me. And then, you know, before, I
- 10:28guess we just passed it down the line and and talk about why
- 10:31we're here. I just want to start off by
- 10:34saying this whole thing, the banner over this is never
- 10:37underestimate the power of love. That's the banner that's over
- 10:42this whole thing. Appreciate you having me back
- 10:44here and with a big group chat here.
- 10:46I love it. Yeah, I know it's a we.
- 10:49There's a scripture in Revelation that talks about the
- 10:51first love, you know, not forgetting about the first love.
- 10:54So that's, I was reminded of it over the weekend.
- 10:57So it's, it's interesting that you bring it up again today.
- 11:00So maybe it's something I need to hear over and over again this
- 11:04week because it's been a little bit of a rough weekend.
- 11:07But you know, it's good to have the community of faith, not just
- 11:14supporters of the podcast and stuff.
- 11:16I, I, I rage tweeted over the weekend or posted I guessed
- 11:20about quitting podcasting, half serious, half, you know, just
- 11:25venting. But the response I got it, I was
- 11:29reminded that there are people that listen to the things I say
- 11:34and the Lord has used me as a vessel and a huge blessing.
- 11:39So I feel very blessed and encouraged despite the hardships
- 11:47in certain situations that I'm going through at the moment.
- 11:50But you know, everybody goes through hard times, everybody
- 11:52goes through some difficult things, but the faith family is
- 11:56always there. So it's, it was a good reminder
- 11:59for me. So hopefully it reminds someone
- 12:01else out there going through some stuff.
- 12:02Absolutely. Hallelujah.
- 12:06Thank you, Lauren. Such an honor I don't.
- 12:09Know who's got something to say? Go ahead, Sir.
- 12:11I'm just. Yeah, I was just going to say
- 12:13it's a really special opportunity here to get together
- 12:16with you guys. I mean all of you, with the
- 12:19exception of Aaron, and he's soon to be part of the lore as
- 12:22well. We have sort of a history in
- 12:26this weird little space and it's become more obvious than ever
- 12:31and even recognized by like the highest levels of alternative
- 12:35media that we are in 1/5 generational war, which is a war
- 12:40for the minds of civilians in the, you know, in the
- 12:44bureaucratic secular definition of 5th generational war,
- 12:48information war, which is just a reflection of what we have known
- 12:54all along. And that's that it's a spiritual
- 12:56war. And I can't stop repeating it
- 13:01over and over just to remind people that, you know, spiritual
- 13:05wars are made-up of spiritual battles, and those spiritual
- 13:08battles are played out in the lives of individuals.
- 13:11So we all have these individual spiritual battles that are not
- 13:17metaphorically constituting the spiritual war.
- 13:21They are literally constituting the spiritual war.
- 13:25And hey, if you, if you got a battle, if there's a battle on
- 13:28going individually or a battle going on corporately, what do
- 13:32you do? You support each other, You
- 13:34bring in other soldiers, you bring in support, you bring in
- 13:39these types of things. And this is reflected in the not
- 13:44just, you know, spiritual realm, but like I said, the
- 13:50principalities, the powers, the governors of this world, these
- 13:54worldly governors know the power of that reality.
- 14:01And they fight the spiritual war as well.
- 14:04They call it 5th generational warfare.
- 14:06And it's not just between nation states, it's between ideologies,
- 14:11it's between principalities, it's between powers.
- 14:13And when you see things like what happens in North Carolina
- 14:18and Florida and Georgia and places like that, it's so easy
- 14:22to get wrapped up. It's so easy to get obsessed
- 14:27with the physical devastation, which is very important.
- 14:30It deserves all the attention it can get.
- 14:32It deserves way more attention than what the mainstream was
- 14:36giving it. And I, I think it's no
- 14:39coincidence that the, the proximity, the temporal
- 14:43proximity between the disasters and the election played a
- 14:50perfect strategy in, in whatever, whatever spiritual war
- 14:55or 5th generational operation that was going on.
- 14:59But again, keeping this in mind when it comes to disasters and
- 15:04Americans and people and Christians coming together to
- 15:09stand side by side to cover each other's right flank with our
- 15:13Shields, the closer we stand and the the, the proximity of our
- 15:19operations and our prayers is what brings victory every single
- 15:24time. So that's why I'm so stoked here
- 15:26to talk to you, Aaron, because you are, you're the, you're the
- 15:31first guy that I've been able to talk to who is Boots on the
- 15:35ground in the operations, Americans, people, Christians
- 15:40doing the Lord's work, being the hands and the feet.
- 15:43And not only, you know, your, your physical operations on the
- 15:46ground in North Carolina, but also the, you know, bringing it
- 15:51back here to participate in the spiritual and the 5th
- 15:54generational warfare because the information needs to get out
- 15:57there. And it's obviously information
- 15:59that's not getting out. And to keep that but, you know,
- 16:04censored or hidden is a huge victory for the adversary.
- 16:10And so I think it's very important that not only us here
- 16:14on this show, but everybody who's watching and listening,
- 16:18you know, take up their shield and remember that whether it is
- 16:23the bureaucratic 5th generational war or whether it
- 16:26is the spiritual war being waged, Being here, watching
- 16:31this, listening to this, and then speaking with your mouth
- 16:35both to God and to other people about what we learned here is an
- 16:41extremely powerful weapon. And unfortunately, the adversary
- 16:47is not blind to how powerful that weapon is.
- 16:51So I just want to, I would, I feel much more comfortable, you
- 16:56know, participating in such an important conversation, standing
- 17:00side by side with my Bros. Amen.
- 17:06Hallelujah. I love the the holy hype track
- 17:12there well. I'll say this real quick.
- 17:16I definitely was really, really inspired by all of you guys.
- 17:20I just met Michael recently, but you know, just as far as your
- 17:24boots on the ground, Basil, you know, going to Burning Man and
- 17:28whatnot, you know, it just everything kind of leading up to
- 17:30like this whole thing. You know, it was definitely
- 17:34experiential through my life and like, you know, being able to
- 17:38see, you know, you guys do your things and speak about these
- 17:41things. And I remember talking to Rod
- 17:42not that long ago, right after the after the storm and I, you
- 17:47know, I talked about going there and you know that it was it was
- 17:51just that it was just talk. You know, it wasn't until a
- 17:55friend of mine who had gone down there, you know, Christy, shout
- 18:00out to her. She's still there.
- 18:02She was told that they're going to be looking for for bodies and
- 18:06she wasn't equipped equipped for anything like that.
- 18:08So she called me up and I've never met her before.
- 18:10And it was just a perfect time. You know, I prayed about it and,
- 18:16you know, I just got out of church and she called me and
- 18:19left me this message. And you can tell that she was
- 18:22very, very shaken. And it's just like, you know, I
- 18:26think I'll just go, might as well just just go.
- 18:28And, you know, having that support from Rod and then like,
- 18:33you know, the group of men that you know, are on our Thursday
- 18:35night prayer call and stuff. I mean, they honestly equipped
- 18:39me. You guys have equipped me.
- 18:40I've been listening to all of you guys for a very, very long
- 18:43time and just having that foundation and that support and,
- 18:47you know, prayers and everything.
- 18:50You know, Rod, you, you were very intentional about, hey,
- 18:53this is what I want you to do. Never underestimate the power of
- 18:56love. And then like just not being
- 18:58fearful, you know, and documenting everything.
- 19:01And it's been honestly the most incredible thing that's ever
- 19:06happened in my life. You know, just excuse me if I
- 19:10get a little emotional, just being able to go down there and
- 19:15feel the love and the spirit, not just feel it like a nice,
- 19:20you know, movie that kind of gets you going or whatever, but
- 19:23actually seeing it operate in real time.
- 19:26I mean, I, Michael, I talked to you.
- 19:28How many coincidences happened every single time that we would
- 19:31pray about something, Rod, how many times like like that just
- 19:35immediately and it's just like that's God literally answering
- 19:39prayers in real time. And it was just, it was so
- 19:42humbling and overwhelming that just the frequency and like, you
- 19:47know, it all just happened so quick and it's still happening.
- 19:51I mean, here we are right now. We're all sitting here talking.
- 19:53I this doesn't feel real to me. I love all of you guys and like
- 19:57having that support and that foundation and that brotherhood,
- 20:00that fellowship. We talked about Lord of the
- 20:02Rings, right? Look at the the name of that
- 20:04movie, the fellowship. What did we talk about, Rod?
- 20:08What if I've been missing in my life?
- 20:10Fellowship, What was happening in the mountains?
- 20:14Fellowship, you know. Wow, it's powerful.
- 20:19You know, when the the storms were happening, I mean, this
- 20:23was, I mean, just let's be frank, it was the most important
- 20:26thing any of us could talk about at the time, even with the
- 20:30election coming up, even with all the crazy current events
- 20:33happening. I mean, the war was escalating
- 20:35at the time too. But I think that there was a
- 20:39chord that this disaster struck in the hearts of American men,
- 20:46women, Christians, people, you know, it, it was this diversion
- 20:52for one second away from the craziness, away from the
- 20:57politics, away from this kind of thing.
- 21:00It was at least a moment of diversion back to caring about
- 21:05the the people, the individuals, the souls that live here among
- 21:10us. And I think there's a really
- 21:11beautiful moment in the country, which unfortunately we only
- 21:15often experienced during time of disaster.
- 21:20And then we saw immediately the strategy to turn it into a
- 21:23political thing or to, you know, to take advantage of the
- 21:27situation. And, you know, we heard stories
- 21:31about people going down there and helping.
- 21:33We heard stories about the the failures of FEMA and the
- 21:37government. We heard stories.
- 21:39I mean, I can't remember the last time that people were
- 21:44really considered American heroes.
- 21:46You know, you talk about what were they the, the, the Cajun
- 21:49Navy? I'm sorry, I don't know what
- 21:51they're called, but whatever, you know, these these groups of
- 21:54people down in the area showing up to do the real work that
- 22:00wasn't getting done through the government.
- 22:03And it was, I mean, talk about shifts of power.
- 22:06We obviously went through a shift in electoral power here,
- 22:10not just with the presidency, but with the, you know, the
- 22:15population as a whole. There's, we seem to have turned
- 22:19a corner here. But the, the juxtaposition of
- 22:23the effectiveness of Americans taking things into their own
- 22:27hands versus waiting for the government to do it, I think
- 22:31woke a lot of people up in a way that they had not been woken up
- 22:35before. And I know I also, of course, it
- 22:38occurred to me like, Oh my gosh, I got nothing going on.
- 22:42I can podcast from down there, we can figure this out, Let's
- 22:45go. But for all the different
- 22:47reasons that happens in people's lives, me, like I'm sure
- 22:49millions of others decided that we couldn't do it, but you did,
- 22:53which is incredible. Can you tell us a little bit
- 22:56about when you first gone down there?
- 22:58What were you expecting? What was it like in reality?
- 23:02And what surprised you the most when you got there?
- 23:08As far as what I was expecting, like I said, I, I already had
- 23:12like that, that, that support from Rod and all the other guys
- 23:15and stuff. So I mean, honestly, I was, I
- 23:17was kind of unshaken. Rod was very, very specific on
- 23:21like, you know, documenting everything on my way there.
- 23:24And then once I'm there and, you know, in hindsight, I understand
- 23:29why he told me that because I had so many different
- 23:32interactions and stories and prayers answered in real time
- 23:35that if I didn't document these things, I would literally just
- 23:38be fumbling words out of my mouth right now, right?
- 23:43But no, it's unlike anything I've ever seen.
- 23:45The destruction from a physical standpoint, even if you saw it
- 23:51on Hollywood screen, it wouldn't even like seem real.
- 23:54You know, just when you first get into the mountains and you
- 24:00see how many landslides there were and just the path, and
- 24:06there's so many stories too, you'll see a house that
- 24:09literally is in the middle of this huge landslide.
- 24:12In this landslide. There was nothing to stop it.
- 24:16And it literally just separated. And it was because people prayed
- 24:19over their homes, you know, specifically the very first
- 24:22night I got there, Mandy, she was one of those those stories
- 24:30that just didn't really make sense.
- 24:32She's running, her and her husband are running a
- 24:34distribution center. And they told me the story and I
- 24:37filmed it. I sent it over to Rod.
- 24:40There's all these trees on top of this hill that are basically
- 24:43leaned right up against the house.
- 24:46And the night that the storm first arose, they, they prayed
- 24:51over the house and said, God, if you protect our home, you know,
- 24:53we will follow you and like, you know, glorify you in any way,
- 24:56shape or form that you see fit. And now all of a sudden they run
- 25:00a distribution center. And just from a physics
- 25:02standpoint, looking and being there, it, it didn't make any
- 25:05sense. And their house was spared.
- 25:06And now they've got hundreds of pallets of, you know, medical
- 25:11supplies, feeding stuff, everything that people need
- 25:15that, you know, survive in the physical right now has all been
- 25:18provided through them. And it was because God literally
- 25:21protected their, their house very next day.
- 25:25That's when I got to the camp. And there wasn't like a whole
- 25:28lot of communication or structure or anything like that.
- 25:30So when I first got to this this Baptist Church down there in the
- 25:34valley, there wasn't a whole lot of authority or structure.
- 25:38And then I guess just with my military background and stuff
- 25:41that kind of put me in this position of authority.
- 25:43And I'm doing things for the church.
- 25:44And then all of a sudden, you know, I hear from the people in
- 25:47the church that there's a militia right down the road,
- 25:51Camp Miller. And everybody was like, oh,
- 25:54panicked and living in fear. And it's just like, oh, yeah,
- 25:56they have guns and open carry and this and that.
- 25:58And I'm just kind of like, I'm going to go check it out in the
- 26:01morning because, like, I kind of want to, like, get boots on the
- 26:04ground, so to speak. And I go over there and like,
- 26:06you know, take me to your leader, You know?
- 26:08And I met Jordan or Jacob. I kept calling him Jacob last
- 26:12time. His name is Jordan.
- 26:15And the amount of love that I saw coming from Camp Miller,
- 26:20yeah, sure. Everybody was like open carrying
- 26:22and stuff, but it wasn't for reasons that anybody really
- 26:25understood. It was because they got burned
- 26:27by the government and FEMA and they allowed them to come into
- 26:30the camp. And when they tried shutting
- 26:32down the camp, they were just like, Nope, you're not shutting
- 26:34it down. Thank you.
- 26:36We don't need you. And instead of the government
- 26:39and FEMA being in control, the people, the body of Christ, are
- 26:44in control. They and their operation over at
- 26:46Camp Miller are doing amazing things.
- 26:49I mean, these people, they've got everything set up.
- 26:53It looks like a forward operating base from like a
- 26:56military standpoint and just everything is very organized.
- 26:59Everybody is loving and compassionate.
- 27:03They go out of their way to help anybody and everybody.
- 27:06We take down lists of anybody that comes down from the
- 27:09mountains and lost everything. We give them three meals a day.
- 27:14You know, we, we find a way to figure out whatever problem they
- 27:18have, how we can remedy that either temporarily or you know,
- 27:23in Michael's case, he donated a, what is it a 40 foot, a fifth
- 27:29wheel trailer to somebody that lost their home.
- 27:31John and just people are rising up like that and just giving
- 27:36everything. People that have abundance,
- 27:38they're giving it all away. They're giving their time, their
- 27:41talent, their treasure. Pun intended, but they're doing.
- 27:46All these things save the world, baby.
- 27:49That's right. So.
- 27:51Dude, that's incredible. I'm instantly struck like
- 27:54dramatically by what you said about the landscape.
- 27:58And that's something you know that that I think you really
- 28:02have to witness because on the news, you're going to see the
- 28:05houses, you're going to see the roads washed out, you're going
- 28:07to see those types of things. But to imagine the devastation,
- 28:12or not to imagine, to see it where it's not just the works of
- 28:18human hands that were destroyed in this, but to see the
- 28:22landscape, the geography scarred by this event.
- 28:28You know, the mountains that the Lord raised up, you know, at the
- 28:34beginning of time. To see those, you know, torn
- 28:39asunder or even dissolved in a way, it just speaks to the
- 28:44absolute devastation. The, the militias were so
- 28:47interesting, dude. Because of course, you know, any
- 28:50coverage anybody was seeing about that is, oh, the militias,
- 28:54they're attacking the government.
- 28:56They're, it's anarchy. They're, you know, FEMA is
- 29:00running away in fear. Oh my gosh, he's crazy.
- 29:03Honestly, Trump supporters are, you know, are, are, are taking
- 29:08over. It's civil war almost.
- 29:12But to hear that, it's like, you know, the these were people
- 29:17doing what needed to be done. It doesn't sound like they were
- 29:21breaking any laws for whatever version of laws you could say,
- 29:25you know, existed in such a such an intense atmosphere.
- 29:29Of course, the laws still apply. But you know, things are things
- 29:34are crazy. And it's interesting because
- 29:37there's a segment of the country when they heard about militias
- 29:40going around helping people out that go, wow, that's what
- 29:45America is all about, people coming together, keep people,
- 29:49you know, helping each other out, rebuilding, making sure
- 29:52things don't get any worse, etcetera.
- 29:56And then there's an entirely different part of the country
- 29:58going. Last Civil.
- 29:59War. Oh, no.
- 30:02And not only does that speak to like a political division, but
- 30:05again, honestly kind of a spiritual division.
- 30:08This this idea of how we regard our fellow man.
- 30:13I think it was really revealing to a lot of people.
- 30:16What was so so you were invited down there with a group.
- 30:21Did was there like a specific mission that you had or was it,
- 30:26you know, show up and be hands and feet?
- 30:29No mission whatsoever. Like I said, Christy reached out
- 30:32to me and she said that when she got down there that they wanted
- 30:35to have people go look for for bodies.
- 30:38And you know, she's not equipped for that.
- 30:40I ended up doing that the very first day.
- 30:42Like that was the call. The call was come look for
- 30:46bodies and you're. Like.
- 30:48Let's go. I remember when Aaron called me
- 30:50and told me that he's like, yeah, I, I'm equipped to do
- 30:53this. Christy's not There's like
- 30:57people are just catching this interest and coming in and
- 30:59saying, OK, where do I fit and what can I do?
- 31:02And so Aaron, you, you had a couple.
- 31:05Well, there was some bumps in the road, man.
- 31:07Let's talk about some of the resistance and what what was
- 31:10that look like? You're out doing reconnaissance.
- 31:12You you touch some water and you have some scars on your body,
- 31:17physical, probably emotional temporarily from some of these
- 31:21experiences. Let's let's kind of jot into
- 31:23that like like that was a. You had also said something.
- 31:27So like me and Rod talked quite a bit.
- 31:29We've become very, very close. But like, I listened to a lot of
- 31:32his advice and he told me like, you know, just do me a favor.
- 31:35Like, you know, when you get there, like don't overdo it and
- 31:37don't become overwhelmed. You know, if you can kick off
- 31:40your shoes and do some grounding or something like that.
- 31:42And I'm like, well, I don't think I can do that because
- 31:44there's a lot of toxins and like chemicals all in the dirt and
- 31:48everything. I mean, all the local fisheries
- 31:50and wildlife are, are honestly all destroyed.
- 31:53So it's just like, OK, I can't do that.
- 31:55So I made it kind of intentional to go ahead and just do a
- 31:58walkabout by myself. You know, I did some driving and
- 32:01I did, I don't know, I just kind of drove off the beaten path, so
- 32:05to speak. And I looked at like some areas
- 32:07that looked like they hadn't really been touched just because
- 32:11they're really, really hard to access.
- 32:13So I pulled my Jeep over and I kind of made my way down and,
- 32:17you know, was very careful not to like, you know, go into the
- 32:21water or anything like that. But I did find a, a crushed
- 32:24Oldsmobile, very classic car, but just completely smashed.
- 32:30And I just had a feeling and I I, you know, I got down and I
- 32:33looked and yeah, there there was, there was somebody in
- 32:36there. So I had to report that.
- 32:38But on my way back, you know, it being really, really hard to,
- 32:41you know, access, I had to go around this bamboo forest and
- 32:47there was a lot of loose stone and sediment.
- 32:48And, you know, I was wearing pants and, you know, boots and
- 32:51everything and had kind of slipped down trying to make my
- 32:56way back up. And my foot slipped into the
- 32:59water. And I didn't really think
- 33:00anything of it. But the water had gotten into my
- 33:02boot and sat there for the remainder of the day.
- 33:05And I didn't really think much until the very next morning I
- 33:11woke up and I had a huge lump on my back, which I didn't really
- 33:14know what that was. And then my foot was all burned.
- 33:18I showed up to breakfast in the morning over at Camp Miller and
- 33:23I'd taken my shoes off because my foot was hurting really,
- 33:26really bad. And all of a sudden I looked
- 33:28down and it's just like completely melted and bubbled up
- 33:31and everything. And it's just like, what is
- 33:33that? What is that?
- 33:35And everybody's just like, what happened?
- 33:36And I'm like, I, I don't know. And the only thing I could think
- 33:40of was, well, my foot slipped in the water and that was it.
- 33:42So I ended up going out all the way out to Asheville, which is
- 33:47like an hour away from where we're camped at, and spent the
- 33:51entire day in the ER. They did a bunch of blood work
- 33:56and all these things. And yeah, it turns out they in
- 33:59the tox screen, I was bit by a brown recluse spider and there.
- 34:03Was my. Lump about the size of 1/2 of a
- 34:06golf ball on my back and they had to cut it open and like get
- 34:09all the toxins out. They had to give me anti venom,
- 34:12patch me up and then as far as my my foot goes, I had third
- 34:15degree burns and have basically just spent the last week, week
- 34:19and a half since that, you know, kind of changing out the, the
- 34:23bandages and stuff like that. There's not a whole lot you can
- 34:25do for it, but. So the burns, was that from the
- 34:29spider? Are you saying what was the
- 34:31burns? That's from the water when I.
- 34:32So the the water and the ground itself is like desiccated.
- 34:39It's yes, spoiled. It's that's crazy.
- 34:43And you had a spider bite at the same time.
- 34:45That's that's two very unpleasant things at the same
- 34:50time. Did it feel?
- 34:52How did that affect your your like mindset?
- 34:55Your your motivation? Your spirit?
- 34:58Honestly, it kind of fired me up even more.
- 35:00There was a lot of people at camp that were just like, hey,
- 35:02you need to rest, you need to take care of yourself.
- 35:04And I'm like, no, no, no, no, like that.
- 35:05No, I, I take it as like, you know, an attack from the enemy
- 35:09basically saying that you're over the target and you need to
- 35:11stop. No, I refuse.
- 35:18So I kind of be a little bit stubborn like that.
- 35:20I'll follow the father. I kind of deny the opposer as
- 35:23much as I can so. Amen, brother.
- 35:25Amen. That's right.
- 35:27So. All right.
- 35:28I can already see the emails I'm getting about how I talk too
- 35:32much, so I'm going to let you guys take it for a little bit.
- 35:36Well, this is a great fellowship, guys.
- 35:38And just the feeling of the love that Aaron described and when he
- 35:42came and Rod connected us and I just happened to have moved here
- 35:45from Hawaii a few years back and it was like, man, this is a real
- 35:52war. This area is full of witches,
- 35:56darkness, it's a battlefield. And this hurricane was just a
- 36:01manifestation. I think of that.
- 36:02But then, like you're saying, here come the warriors, the
- 36:05fellowship. You know, it's like, here's
- 36:07Aragorn and there's Legolas when you can have my bow.
- 36:11And then there's and you know, that's how it feels this
- 36:16meeting. And I want to just read this
- 36:18really quick. A friend loveth at all times,
- 36:21and a brother is born for adversity.
- 36:25So here's a chance for men to rise and like Aaron to be brave
- 36:31and for Rod and Basil and Gans to lend their mic.
- 36:35And this is Johnny McMahon's microphone.
- 36:37The fringe radionetwork.com. We have an app now there's it's
- 36:41all home grown. I mean, this desk, the studio
- 36:43was donated built somehow the donations that we get on on my
- 36:48show. And it's just like, how are we
- 36:51still here doing this? And it's, it's not like we're
- 36:55really successful at, we think, but then we're, this is a prayer
- 37:00base where I'm broadcasting from and we're having deliverances
- 37:03regularly and we're finding out the corruption of the churches.
- 37:06Maybe Aaron wants to mention too, 'cause you saw like
- 37:09directly and we're having it here in Waynesville too.
- 37:12Just vile religious spirits manifesting.
- 37:15It's like you got the witches, you got the warlocks, you got
- 37:18the orcs, you got the terminators, you got the AI, you
- 37:20got the media, you got the FEMA. And then you got the on top of
- 37:23all that you've got like Saruman, the white YouTube.
- 37:27He's like, we must join with Sauron.
- 37:33Why? You just kind of like, you know,
- 37:37that's how it feels. It's like, no, not that church
- 37:40tell us that story. Just go ahead.
- 37:42Sorry, I'm not I'm. Not so just so just for clarity,
- 37:45just for our people. I know you mentioned it before
- 37:48the show, but you're you're actually in the area as well.
- 37:50You're there where? In South Carolina?
- 37:53This is North Carolina, right on the border of Tennessee.
- 37:57Got it. OK.
- 37:58Yeah. All right.
- 37:58Yeah, you're there too, man. Behind it and behind.
- 38:01Totally smooth. We were about an hour from Aaron
- 38:04and where where I'm doing this operation is is separate, but
- 38:08we're also having huge ministries come through here and
- 38:12just the miracles are off the charts and like meeting scout
- 38:15teams from EMIC Eagle Mountain Church in Houston, TX.
- 38:21They're about to send 25 guys huge dinner on on Thanksgiving
- 38:25at the veterans, the VFW, the veterans of foreign wars and
- 38:30just love bomb. I mean, guys get into that
- 38:34discipleship thing and serve God and forsake all you got stuff.
- 38:39Just throw it on the apostles feet and just go like this is
- 38:43your chance. So we're here.
- 38:44I'm working with soldiers and I would say what I do is more of
- 38:48like assisting the people that are front lines as sisters, as
- 38:51sisters. That sounds so feminine, the.
- 38:53Support unit bro. Yeah, and you guys are obviously
- 38:57bigger warriors of the Internet and we need you to keep this
- 39:03story pushed out cuz it's like all the other stuff is going to
- 39:07distract people. We had 15 people apparently die
- 39:09from hypothermia in one night just a few nights ago.
- 39:13So and, and FEMA says, oh, only 100 people died.
- 39:17Meanwhile, people are in tears saying, well, we had a pile of
- 39:20bodies in this rubble and FEMA to leave and then we came back
- 39:24and then the whole thing was on fire.
- 39:26So it's just like they're trying to demoralize us.
- 39:30But the love of the brotherhood and the and the fighters and the
- 39:33warriors men, if anybody wants to volunteer or send cash to
- 39:38those bases, you know, just please.
- 39:42Yeah. I.
- 39:43Apologize. I apologize for interrupting
- 39:46your question. It was a great question.
- 39:47I want to know about it. So, Aaron, the, you know, we
- 39:50heard about these sort of factions who are all, you know,
- 39:53we heard about the, the, the caravans that got turned away
- 39:57from the, by the sheriff or the helicopter pilot guy or
- 40:00whatever, all sorts of different things.
- 40:03But Mike makes a great point about sort of also the spiritual
- 40:06factions, the the spiritual powers and residents in the
- 40:10area. Can you tell us a little bit
- 40:12about what that atmosphere is like?
- 40:14Yeah, there's a lot of disruptors.
- 40:16I think what Michael is referring to is there was a food
- 40:21cart that had been right next to the church for about about a
- 40:26month after, you know, the storm and really nice lady from out my
- 40:32way actually. But they had a church basically
- 40:35donate a lot of food and like a huge food truck.
- 40:38And they were feeding people that were coming down from the
- 40:40mountains over the last month. And when I first got there, they
- 40:45were just like, oh, yeah, we're packing up, you know, because
- 40:47they don't want us here anymore. I'm like, who doesn't want you
- 40:50here anymore? They're like the church.
- 40:51And I'm like that church right there, Like the church got
- 40:55there. The church didn't want it.
- 40:57And this church specifically, and forgive me, I'm not trying
- 41:01to bash the church here, but I do want to kind of identify, you
- 41:04know, what the church is. It's not the four walls.
- 41:07It's it's the body of Christ. It's followers of Christ, right.
- 41:12So these people ended up leaving.
- 41:15I brought a grill and then I went to into town and I bought
- 41:20like a bunch of burgers and hot dogs.
- 41:22And I actually had like a whole cooler full of fresh fish that
- 41:26was actually given to me from the local seafood place here in
- 41:29town. And just like, hey, you know,
- 41:32I'll feed some people. I'm, I'm equipped for this, you
- 41:34know, So I started cooking and a bunch of people were coming down
- 41:38from the mountains and stuff. And all of a sudden some guy
- 41:40came up to me and was just like, did you get approval for that?
- 41:44I'm like, for what they're like for cooking on church property.
- 41:48And I'm like, I brought a grill and I bought all this food.
- 41:52Like, people are hungry. People lost everything.
- 41:54I don't see what the problem is. And this guy just kept pressing
- 41:57me, right? And I'm just like, are you
- 41:59hungry? You know, he's just like, well,
- 42:00I just want to make sure that you're not stepping in on
- 42:02anybody's toes. And I'm just like, like who?
- 42:05He's like, I don't know, like maybe the Deacon of the church.
- 42:08And I'm like Deacon of the church.
- 42:11He's like, I'm the Deacon of the church.
- 42:13You didn't ask for permission to cook for people.
- 42:14I'm like, well, hi, Deacon, how's it going?
- 42:17Like, are you hungry? Is it OK if I cook for people?
- 42:19And he's just like, well, you know, I'd, I'd really like for
- 42:23you to like, you know, go through the right processes and
- 42:25stuff and ask for permission before you just kind of run the
- 42:28show. And I'm like, I'm not trying to
- 42:29step on anybody's toes. I'm just trying to fill, you
- 42:31know, people. He's like, well, I guess it's
- 42:34OK. And I'm like, all right, well,
- 42:36thank you, you know, and this guy just gave like a bunch of
- 42:39lash backs. So Fast forward to me meeting
- 42:42with Camp Miller, and my whole goal was to bring these two
- 42:47camps together, the church and Camp Miller.
- 42:50So when I met everybody at Camp Miller, I saw the love being
- 42:53spread. I saw just the operation that
- 42:56was being ran, you know, to a tee.
- 42:58And it's just like, you know, just like this, like we got to
- 43:01collaborate. We got to get these two teams
- 43:04together, you know, because you've got the church that's
- 43:06afraid of Camp Miller. Camp Miller's like what?
- 43:08We'd love to help the church, but the church doesn't want us
- 43:10to help. And it's just like, no, no, no,
- 43:12I got so much pushback from this Deacon when he found out what I
- 43:16was trying to do. A couple days later, he came up
- 43:18and talked to me again. And he's like, whatever you're
- 43:20doing, you need to stop. And I'm like, can I ask you a
- 43:23question? Like why?
- 43:26Why? He's just like, well, you know,
- 43:28it's just how we operate around here.
- 43:31And like, you know, we don't want to be involved with the
- 43:32militia or anything like that. They got their their church
- 43:36built. They actually started
- 43:39construction before the storm, and I do have a construction
- 43:42background. So when I first got there, they
- 43:45had asked me to kind of volunteer my time helping the
- 43:49church. And I did that for a couple
- 43:50hours until I realized that like, okay, no, they've got it.
- 43:53There's other more important things to go out and do to help
- 43:56people and not just build this church.
- 43:59And when I found out that it was already in the remodeling phase
- 44:02beforehand. And the fact that they're
- 44:04actually trying to get everything off church property
- 44:07because we've got like a, a laundry facility, bathrooms, and
- 44:12then like a huge storage shed that was built right next to the
- 44:16church that has a bunch of clothes and food and all these
- 44:19things that people are coming down that have nothing and
- 44:22they're just trying to force all this stuff off.
- 44:24And it's just like, I can't get behind that.
- 44:26I I really, really, truly can't. And yet somebody came and talked
- 44:32to me and they were just like, you handled yourself really,
- 44:35really well. I'm like, what do you mean?
- 44:36They're like, yeah, the Deacon's trying to get rid of you.
- 44:38And I, I don't think you allowed him to have like, you know, an
- 44:41opportunity to be able to get rid of you because you handled
- 44:44yourself with grace. You know, I'm just like, I kind
- 44:47of kind of felt that. I kind of felt like he was
- 44:50trying to get a rise out of me so that way he could be like,
- 44:53no, away with you, you know, And I just didn't really take the
- 44:56bait. And yeah, I'll be heading back
- 45:00on on Friday. I will be working with Camp
- 45:04Miller primarily, but I will be going back and forth.
- 45:06And, you know, there's a lot of good people that are involved in
- 45:10that church. It's just a lot of people in
- 45:12leadership, which I'm coming to kind of realize more and more
- 45:16nowadays is a lot of these people that are, you know, in
- 45:19positions of authority with the church kind of abuse and, you
- 45:24know, their power and kind of miss the bigger picture, you
- 45:28know, right. You know, I, I, I see an
- 45:31interesting thing reflected. I heard a quote recently and
- 45:37maybe I'm I'm going to paraphrase it.
- 45:38I'm not going to have it perfect.
- 45:40And I don't know, it's not the most sort of insightful quote,
- 45:46but I think it's interesting to put in the context of what
- 45:49you're saying here is that bureaucracy is not bureaucracy
- 45:53is concerned with process, not outcome.
- 45:57So the very spirit of bureaucracy, which of course we
- 46:01commonly think of in, you know, the governments or law
- 46:06enforcement or the courts or even organizations like
- 46:11nonprofits. And again, for better or for
- 46:14worse, bureaucracy within the church, within the sort of a
- 46:18church establishments all across the world, bureaucracy is like a
- 46:24can be a dominant spirit. And it's very difficult, I think
- 46:31for guys like us, even at our most gracious and our most good
- 46:38intentions, sort of attitudes to let the spirit of bureaucracy be
- 46:45more concerned with process than with outcome.
- 46:49And, you know, of course, we see this concept playing out in all
- 46:55sorts of different ways. It explains 90% of the sort of
- 47:00government, or it's at least the excuse for 90% of government
- 47:05ineptitude or government failures.
- 47:08It's just always a matter of bureaucracy.
- 47:10This. They didn't go through the right
- 47:12channels. They didn't send the paperwork.
- 47:15Don't even get me started on, you know, paperwork as a form of
- 47:19magic. I mean an oppressive magical
- 47:23force that runs every bureaucracy that we have on
- 47:27earth. I mean the top bringing the
- 47:30written word as the form of magic to the Egyptian kings,
- 47:35then, you know, evolving into Babylonian money magic, and now
- 47:40our own bureaucracy. The mundanity, the the, the
- 47:44absolute insufferable sort of boringness that is at the heart
- 47:49not a side effect. It is the feature of bureaucracy
- 47:53is this sort of boring, mind numbing process.
- 47:58And if the process doesn't happen, it doesn't matter what
- 48:01the outcome is. It's about the process.
- 48:04And this is a great example of times.
- 48:06There are many times in life when this is true, but in
- 48:10moments of destruction and sorrow and disaster, process
- 48:19doesn't feel as important to real human beings.
- 48:23Like to an actual human. The the outcome is affecting
- 48:27real human beings, the boots on the ground.
- 48:30Real human beings outcome is primary, but when bureaucracy,
- 48:36bureaucracy as a, as an entity, you know, if you think about it
- 48:40as a spiritual entity or a principality whose primary
- 48:45operating doctrine is process and, and paperwork and you know,
- 48:50this sort of ancient magic of disruption of outcome.
- 48:57It's like the number one horrible thing you we hear about
- 49:00this entire thing. It's the thing that kept people
- 49:04away. It's the thing that kept the,
- 49:06you know, got people arrested for helping out and it's Amen.
- 49:10You know, it's unfortunately, if you have any desire at all to
- 49:14sort of navigate empire, which is, you know, in the society
- 49:20that the structure of our society today.
- 49:23You know, you think about going to the DMV, you think about
- 49:25getting licenses, permits, stuff like this.
- 49:28It's required to navigate the empire, but in order to navigate
- 49:33the empire on the empire's rules, it requires submitting
- 49:41yourself to this bureaucratic sort of occult principle.
- 49:45And that's what I think is so in a, in such a deep level that
- 49:50people might not even be cognizant of.
- 49:53That's why the boots on the ground activities from the boots
- 49:57on the ground dudes and and dudettes is such a revolutionary
- 50:03idea. It inspires the human heart
- 50:06because it is a rebellion against the sort of oppressive,
- 50:14I don't know, the oppressive tyranny of bureaucracy, which
- 50:19has everybody sort of enslaved in different ways these days.
- 50:24But but to see the human heart explode like that, it's a really
- 50:28godly thing. It's a really healing thing just
- 50:32to witness it. And so I thank you for being a
- 50:35sort of representative of that. And again, like I said, so many
- 50:38people like to think that they would kick the tyranny and kick
- 50:43the bureaucracy and head out there and do boots on the
- 50:46ground. But the fact that so few have is
- 50:49such a testament to such a testament to the power of of
- 50:55that force. So I consider you a spiritual
- 50:59revolutionary, a spiritual rebel, not just a, you know, a
- 51:04physical helper in times of need.
- 51:08So it sounds like your interaction with organizations
- 51:12like the church there were sort of Hanford perhaps even
- 51:17sabotaged by this occult principle of bureaucracy.
- 51:22Did you find yourself finding any resistance from from others,
- 51:26or was it primarily that that particular church?
- 51:30No, just that particular church. And then obviously, you know,
- 51:34before I showed up, FEMA in the government, which is why they do
- 51:38open carryover at Camp Miller, because they don't want the
- 51:41bureaucracy, They don't want the red tape.
- 51:43They don't want, oh, hey, you have to be a part of this
- 51:46government approved organization to be able to help these people.
- 51:49Like there's like, no, we're just people helping people.
- 51:52Stop. Yeah.
- 51:53You know did. You did you find that you had, I
- 51:58don't know, maybe missed out on some aid or something?
- 52:00We heard the stories about FEMA passing up Trump supporting
- 52:03houses for relief and things like that.
- 52:05And again, I want to recognize that even though bureaucracy is,
- 52:09is a tyrannical power, that there's still people in those
- 52:13offices. You know, there may be the
- 52:14office of a sheriff, but that sheriff is a human being with a
- 52:18heart and a connection to God just as much as the rest of us.
- 52:22Did you, did you have any interaction?
- 52:26Not just interaction, but do you feel like maybe you lost support
- 52:30or missed out on some support because of the way you're doing
- 52:34things? No, in fact it actually
- 52:38expanded. So we had these these 3 semi
- 52:41trucks that were parked across the street from the church where
- 52:45I was basically camped right down the road from Camp Miller.
- 52:48And these things were absolutely like just packed full with
- 52:51eaters, food, water, winter clothes, I mean, you name it,
- 52:56propane tanks, everything, right?
- 52:58And it was just sitting there and it's just like, this stuff's
- 53:03not being distributed. People are like, you know, going
- 53:06through and like just walking in just complete chaos.
- 53:10And it's just like, there's no structure, there's no
- 53:12organization or anything like that.
- 53:13So I talked to one of the leaders over at Camp Miller and
- 53:15was just like, this stuff was all donated from like, you know,
- 53:19local churches and stuff and like even churches far and wide.
- 53:22And this church isn't doing anything with it.
- 53:25All they're doing is building their church.
- 53:27They, they had a construction crew there every single day.
- 53:29And it's just like, why don't you guys come over?
- 53:31Let's take all this stuff over to Camp Miller and let's start
- 53:35getting it out to people, you know, And I they, they brought
- 53:41like, I don't know, I want to say like 10 different people,
- 53:43couple flatbed trailers and stuff.
- 53:45And we took as much as we could over to Camp Miller.
- 53:48And then I remember getting ready to make a fire late at
- 53:51night and I saw like a piece of cardboard that was in one of the
- 53:56semi trucks and it was from the Deacon.
- 54:00And it said anybody that needs anything or whatever, like come
- 54:03talk to the church. We are not affiliated with Camp
- 54:05Miller. Thank you.
- 54:06And I just remember smiling just being like, OK, they're trying
- 54:10to make it seem like we're stealing stuff.
- 54:12No, we're just taking it down the road to a group that is
- 54:17actually capable of passing this stuff out.
- 54:21I mean, like, we've got logs and logs and logs of people, their
- 54:24names, their numbers, their location, what they are in need
- 54:28of. And we are literally taking side
- 54:30by sides and like, you know, my Jeep up mountains and stuff to
- 54:33try to distribute this stuff to the people in need.
- 54:37And then you've got this church that is upset about that.
- 54:40Maybe it's because they want recognition.
- 54:42They want I I don't know. Bureaucracy, man, they got
- 54:46exactly got people paying attention to their paperwork.
- 54:49Well, let me say this, Aaron. You did mention, you know, there
- 54:51was Texas Rangers that came in on horseback that were going
- 54:56places where you couldn't get the side by side in the Jeeps,
- 54:59right? Let's even talk a little bit
- 55:01about that. And then some of these
- 55:03highlights, just neighbors helping their neighbors.
- 55:06At one point in time, there was like suicide messages that were
- 55:09found older couples that for like weeks on end just had no
- 55:12contact with the outside world that are up in these these
- 55:15pathways, right? I mean, the ranging stories, I
- 55:18know it's a lot to put on you right now because we're doing
- 55:21this interview. You have your notes, you're
- 55:23fresh, kind of out of the territory, actually getting
- 55:26ready to go back in after your leg heals.
- 55:29But I want to hit at least two of these highlights.
- 55:32Texas Rangers come in on horseback, right?
- 55:35And then one or two testimonies, dude, that are just heartfelt,
- 55:39like neighbors are rescuing neighbors.
- 55:42That's the body of Christ at this point.
- 55:44I think we're starting to see very clearly here what's
- 55:47happening. Yeah.
- 55:49So here's kind of like the list that we're using to operate,
- 55:53just like your address, your name, all these things, what you
- 55:57need done. A lot of them were a lot more
- 55:59extensive than others. But yes, no, there were some
- 56:03Cowboys and stuff that came into town with donkeys to be able to
- 56:08get up these, these trails that were literally like just
- 56:11completely destroyed. And you've got people that live
- 56:14on top of mountains that can't get down from their house.
- 56:17I mean, there was people that literally when I got there, it
- 56:20was their first time having a warm meal and I don't know,
- 56:25three weeks, 4 weeks, something like that and couldn't get out
- 56:29of their house, didn't know what was going on with their
- 56:32neighbors. There's a lot of elderly people
- 56:34in that community in this specific valley.
- 56:38But yeah, no, they, they went up these mountains and just would
- 56:42go from house to house and deliver medication and food and
- 56:46clothes and do very, very similar things like this.
- 56:51Like, hey, what do you need? And a lot of these people are
- 56:54just like, you know, I'm good, I'm good.
- 56:55And it's just like, OK, well, no, no, no, you're not.
- 56:58Take this and this not just for a day, but at least a week, if
- 57:02not more. And then do you have like a
- 57:04neighbor that you know, around this area that have you talked
- 57:08to them? And then they would just go from
- 57:10that house to that house and just farther up the mountain and
- 57:13just going out of their way to like just find people, you know,
- 57:16because there's, there was a lot of people that felt like they
- 57:20got left behind. And you just have the body of
- 57:23Christ like people helping people and just trying to find
- 57:27people and help them. I heard story after story.
- 57:33Mystique is one that definitely comes to mind.
- 57:37She moved from Miami, her and her husband, and they've got
- 57:41three beautiful children. And she had told me
- 57:44specifically, you know, like I moved to the mountains to get
- 57:47away from Florida and away from all the Hurricanes.
- 57:50And I literally just moved here last year.
- 57:54And she showed me videos. Her house was just completely
- 57:57swept away from a big mudslide. They're able to get out last
- 58:02minute. And she just, I remember her
- 58:04breaking down. Just I never thought in a
- 58:09million years that this would even be a thing.
- 58:11You know, we live in the mountains and we heard that
- 58:13there was like a hurricane coming.
- 58:14And it's just like there was no warning.
- 58:16There was no nothing. You know, we not even allowed to
- 58:19have flood insurance here. It's it's an afterthought.
- 58:22You don't even think about it. So when this happened,
- 58:25especially in the mountains in the mud slides and everything
- 58:27and just these rivers not being able to handle that much rain
- 58:32that was just sitting on top of them for that long.
- 58:34I mean, like I said, the sheer destruction.
- 58:36But they would come every single day.
- 58:38They would cook or have like two or three meals and I brought
- 58:42like a little Chipo game and like, you know, my, I don't know
- 58:45my golf clubs and like, you know, some wiffle ball bats and
- 58:48stuff just because I kind of figured, you know what, like
- 58:51these kids probably need to have a little bit of time to have a
- 58:54little bit of joy. And that was honestly one of the
- 58:56biggest things, like just people having a warm meal, being able
- 59:01to hit a couple golf balls, hit a couple wiffle balls and just
- 59:03seeing that joyous spirit again. It meant more than anything.
- 59:08These people just lost their home and it's almost like they
- 59:12forgot about it for a moment, you know, and just the amount of
- 59:15love and just fellowship and it's amazing, absolutely
- 59:21amazing. So definitely one of the most
- 59:25impactful testimonies that, you know, I had gathered.
- 59:28There's, there's honestly so many.
- 59:30I could spend hours talking about all these testimonies,
- 59:33very, very heartfelt and just when people rise up to help
- 59:37people. Yes.
- 59:39Man it, it directs people towards God.
- 59:42I remember saying this. I prayed for it every single
- 59:46opportunity I got to pray for somebody.
- 59:48Nobody ever rejected if I asked, like, can I pray for you?
- 59:52Nobody ever said no. You know how many times I heard
- 59:54left versus right, black versus white, any of these things when
- 59:59I was there, you know, the election, anything, you know,
- 1:00:02Republican versus Democrat, zero.
- 1:00:05It was all just about, wow, there's so much love here.
- 1:00:12That's it. I mean like, honestly.
- 1:00:14If I could, yeah, this love. Never underestimate the power of
- 1:00:19love. And that's exactly what I saw,
- 1:00:20felt experienced. And I can't wait to get more so.
- 1:00:25Bro, hearing that it's it explains to me why I'm not
- 1:00:30hearing anything else in the media about it.
- 1:00:34I mean, it's disasters and emergencies are always so sad
- 1:00:39and always so impactful, but it is an opportunity for the human
- 1:00:43spirit to connect around what matters the absolute most.
- 1:00:49And like you said, loving one another, loving God, God's love
- 1:00:53moving through US. And that is, that is not a
- 1:00:58message that the enemy wants to get out there.
- 1:01:01You know, in amongst the reports of nuclear missiles and, you
- 1:01:06know, the fascist dictator coming to take office and all
- 1:01:12the madness that the theater that is this world that we live
- 1:01:16in, it's no wonder. Man, so can I.
- 1:01:19Can I butt in and ask you? Because Canary Cry Radio has
- 1:01:22always been a beam of happiness and light heralding this madness
- 1:01:29and fear. And so how are you guys handling
- 1:01:31that, if you don't mind me? Like and gone.
- 1:01:33Soon I was. I was going.
- 1:01:35On the edge, bro. Yeah, we are on the edge.
- 1:01:37We're on the edge and we're laughing like hyenas, you know,
- 1:01:40really psychotically or, you know, to keep it light hearted.
- 1:01:44I was just going to say that, you know, one of the, the things
- 1:01:47that really made the Christian faith in general, it was clear
- 1:01:53for me because I didn't grow up in the church.
- 1:01:55So my perception of the church was very different.
- 1:01:58I think I talked about that with Rod last time I was on.
- 1:02:02So when I started to experience people relationships and
- 1:02:08experience God's love through those relationships, through
- 1:02:10those people, it was a whole different level.
- 1:02:13So I've always been very heady and I, I've always been very
- 1:02:16intellectual and I like facts and I, you know, I dig into the,
- 1:02:19the data and, and that's just how my brain works.
- 1:02:23But that, that, that is all there for foundation,
- 1:02:27foundational purposes, at least for me, for people like me,
- 1:02:29maybe. But the ultimate utility of the
- 1:02:33church is God's love. And so when the love is, you
- 1:02:37know, what you're doing there, Aaron, is a greater form of
- 1:02:41evangelism, just you being there and, and helping people and, you
- 1:02:45know, just being that light is probably more impactful in terms
- 1:02:49of spreading the gospel. Then yes, I can make with some
- 1:02:53crazy, you know, perfect intellectual argument about why
- 1:02:57God exists or something, you know, so there are levels to
- 1:03:00this and and I just appreciate what you're doing it.
- 1:03:02It takes a lot of courage to get out there.
- 1:03:04And I'm not fully up to speed on everything going on this other
- 1:03:08side of the coast. I'm in the Newsome bubble.
- 1:03:11We're just trying to fight off Democrats over here or
- 1:03:13something. I don't know what's going on in
- 1:03:14California, but but I, I just, you know, poking around while
- 1:03:19you guys were chatting and listening in, it seems like the
- 1:03:23media doesn't want to report on any of this stuff, which is
- 1:03:26interesting because when I was growing up, the news always had
- 1:03:29like one or two feel good stories.
- 1:03:31And it seems like that can be part of uplifting everybody in
- 1:03:36that area who's looking for some kind of help, some kind of hope,
- 1:03:41you know, if they have access to TV or news or something, just be
- 1:03:44like, hey, if there's people out here helping out, maybe, maybe,
- 1:03:47you know, if they're stuck in a situation, they can get helped
- 1:03:49out. But as I was kind of clicking
- 1:03:51around and looking for some articles, Basil, I, I, I found
- 1:03:54an article about the SBA. So I don't know if you want to
- 1:03:57go into, but it's, I, I did see that today.
- 1:04:02The SBA offered disaster relief loans for Debbie, not even for
- 1:04:06Helene. It was for Debbie, which I
- 1:04:09thought was kind of interesting. And and the article states that
- 1:04:12the SBA cannot provide disaster loans to agricultural producers,
- 1:04:18farmers and ranchers apart from aquaculture enterprises.
- 1:04:23So I don't even know what that means.
- 1:04:25I don't know all. That means hydroponic weed
- 1:04:27growing operations or something. That's what I'm saying, like
- 1:04:30only hydroponic farms are able to get the loans what everybody
- 1:04:34else can. I don't know what's happening,
- 1:04:35but it seems like there is a a clear, I mean, we can call it a
- 1:04:40there's a narrative battle happening with in terms of the
- 1:04:43the rest of the population seeing what's happening there.
- 1:04:46And then there's, you know, boots on the ground.
- 1:04:47It seems like there is a true hey, government has this we, we,
- 1:04:53we're going to do it our way as opposed to people just showing
- 1:04:56up and doing it. And that's, you know, that that
- 1:05:00and to your story, Aaron, about meeting the beacon of the
- 1:05:04church. I can understand the church
- 1:05:08beacon or church leader or pastor or something feeling very
- 1:05:12protective over their herd, you know, and like, Hey, I don't
- 1:05:15necessarily want to venture out or whatever, but it's just
- 1:05:19interesting how that being a church, you know, we can all be
- 1:05:24sort of blinded by our own circumstances, you know, when
- 1:05:27they're whenever somebody is coming with the love of Christ
- 1:05:30and trying to provide something. So I thought that was
- 1:05:33interesting. But what what's the situation
- 1:05:35currently? So are there still people like,
- 1:05:37you know, looking for a place to sleep, a place to live for food?
- 1:05:41Or are there missing people like I'm, I'm completely in the dark
- 1:05:44in terms of the current status. There's still a lot of missing
- 1:05:48people. OK.
- 1:05:50It is getting a lot colder. Michael, you said that there was
- 1:05:5415 people confirmed that died from hypothermia recently.
- 1:05:57It's. It's not come.
- 1:05:59I don't have the source on that except for Jody Halsted, who
- 1:06:03we've been working together with in the space in Waynesville, who
- 1:06:06is just on the phone all day and he couldn't remember which
- 1:06:09report it was. But it's pretty intense like
- 1:06:14this. It's kind of just starting
- 1:06:15because it's getting cold like this week, like this is going to
- 1:06:20be intense. And it's not like it's the North
- 1:06:21Pole, but it's a rainforest. So it's wet cold.
- 1:06:24You know, you get it kind of gets under your skin and under
- 1:06:27your clothes and then you're like, man, I'm really not
- 1:06:29feeling too good. And we're we're praying they're
- 1:06:32very there's these are proud mountain folk, as I don't think
- 1:06:36you said Easton, we interviewed said he was out doing relief and
- 1:06:39part of the Cajun Navy. And he said it's it's just so
- 1:06:42hard to get help to these people that are like, well, I can do
- 1:06:46it. I lived here.
- 1:06:46My family's about $200. You're not doing so much.
- 1:06:52And it's like, no, take this generator.
- 1:06:55All right, You know, I just few miles to bring this to you.
- 1:07:01And he was with the donkey team that Aaron mentioned.
- 1:07:03So that was cool to. Happen to a more resilient
- 1:07:06people those Appalachians. Too.
- 1:07:09It's very Americana, I have to say.
- 1:07:11Like, these are, these are tough, Ruddy people out here,
- 1:07:16Yeah. So.
- 1:07:17We've got enough. Oh, I'm sorry.
- 1:07:19Go. Ahead.
- 1:07:19No, no, no. Please go.
- 1:07:21We've got enough supplies being donated to temporarily help
- 1:07:27people out. We've got enough food, enough
- 1:07:29clothes and stuff like that. We are.
- 1:07:32It's ever changing. So we're kind of transitioning
- 1:07:35to the phase where, OK, now we need to go fight through that
- 1:07:38red tape and start finding land, land and stuff for people.
- 1:07:41Because there's a lot of people you talk about like, you know,
- 1:07:44the Appalachian folk that refuse to take government assistance
- 1:07:49and do loans and stuff. They they read the fine print
- 1:07:52and they see that that, you know, they have to give up
- 1:07:53collateral. They see, you know, the
- 1:07:55discrepancies and stuff and just the hoodwinked, you know,
- 1:08:00generation and stuff. You know, it's kind of rising up
- 1:08:03and fighting back, I think. But you know, it getting a lot
- 1:08:06colder and stuff now we do need to start having more people like
- 1:08:10Michael and all these other people just being able to throw
- 1:08:14whatever they can to actually, I don't know, offer people, you
- 1:08:19know, at least a somewhat like longer solution.
- 1:08:24You know, like these people don't have homes.
- 1:08:27You know, these people are camped out in tents.
- 1:08:29These people are staying with neighbors that are living in
- 1:08:32homes that are literally like, you know, growing mold and stuff
- 1:08:35because there was literally sitting water and chemicals all
- 1:08:38in their house and stuff. And a lot of people are getting
- 1:08:41sick. A lot of people are.
- 1:08:44Yeah, We actually didn't have any doctors.
- 1:08:47That was another thing that happened very randomly where
- 1:08:52there was a couple doctors that were traveling from Texas and
- 1:08:57just running into them who have Molly.
- 1:09:01Yeah. Molly and her group, they've
- 1:09:04been run out of several different camps where FEMA and
- 1:09:08the government basically said like, no, no, no, no.
- 1:09:10They're trying to offer like a little bit of holistic medicine
- 1:09:13and they didn't want to be attached to any of these
- 1:09:16government entities or FEMA or anything like that.
- 1:09:19So she was actually very, very careful in, you know, kind of
- 1:09:22interviewing me and making sure that, like, you know, I wasn't
- 1:09:25involved in the government or something.
- 1:09:27And I, I'd be able to like, you know, have them come out to Camp
- 1:09:30Miller and not have the government find out about them.
- 1:09:33So now we have 12 doctors in that little valley that are
- 1:09:37going around and like trying to help people out.
- 1:09:39And anybody that needed medical assistance, they're literally
- 1:09:42going out. They had a side by side that was
- 1:09:45donated to them to be able to go up and down mountains and stuff
- 1:09:48to go do house calls, you know, and offer medicine and
- 1:09:52everything. It's incredible.
- 1:09:55That that is crazy. My goodness, man.
- 1:09:58You know, in the same way that I just keep getting, sorry, I keep
- 1:10:02getting a little heady with the spiritual stuff.
- 1:10:06But I again, I'm thinking of like the the different powers
- 1:10:09that work here. And kind of in the same way that
- 1:10:12that money begets money, like at its best, capital begets more
- 1:10:17capital, like it's supposed to generate itself.
- 1:10:21You know, it's in the same way love begets more love in that
- 1:10:26way. And I think about, man, why?
- 1:10:29Why are we not, if not on the nightly news, because who cares?
- 1:10:33Who needs cable news? But at least like whatever,
- 1:10:36going down the timeline on Twitter, why am I not seeing
- 1:10:40story after story after story of resilience and love and, and you
- 1:10:46know, these the types of things that you're doing this, this
- 1:10:50amazing comeback story, this, this, these pieces of news that
- 1:10:56could bring just a little, just a little bit of hope.
- 1:10:59Because the more that that's around, the more people hear
- 1:11:03about it, the more it can generate more love.
- 1:11:05I mean, among other things. And it's, it's hard not to get
- 1:11:10frustrated with the, you know, the fact that broadcasting that
- 1:11:16love that goodness, that kind of stuff, whether it's on cable or
- 1:11:19whether it's even just in the timeline, the algorithms is such
- 1:11:23a distraction from it's, it's almost like an impurity, a self
- 1:11:27populating impurity in the sort of fear based population control
- 1:11:33recipe. You know, you can't even let
- 1:11:35like a little bit of it get in there because it'll spoil the
- 1:11:39whole dark evil cake or something.
- 1:11:43And so I hope that this is an opportunity for people to
- 1:11:46understand what's going on and, and take whatever opportunity
- 1:11:50that means for them to kind of spread, spread that love.
- 1:11:54You know, I think there's going to be people wondering, and I
- 1:11:57would wonder too. You mentioned people living
- 1:12:00basically homeless and intense and in horrible conditions.
- 1:12:05And I know for a fact there's going to be people out there
- 1:12:08going just like, well, why don't they go?
- 1:12:10Why don't they go to the next state over?
- 1:12:13Why don't they move? Why don't they, you know,
- 1:12:16because it seems I just on its face, I could, I could see the
- 1:12:21response of like, OK, it's horrible there.
- 1:12:24Why can't they just catch a ride out to wherever, you know, even
- 1:12:29the next town over where they're outside of the physical
- 1:12:32apocalypse? What what's kind of the what's
- 1:12:36the feeling there? What would you say to people who
- 1:12:38are wondering now? It's a lot more complex than
- 1:12:42that. I think it's really easy for
- 1:12:43people outside looking in be able to say like, oh, hey, why
- 1:12:46don't you just go to the next town over and stuff.
- 1:12:50What people don't realize is a lot of these people have lived
- 1:12:54their, their entire lives, their, you know, I don't know,
- 1:12:57generation after generation after generation.
- 1:13:00And a lot of them have property that has been destroyed and it's
- 1:13:05very, very valuable. And they want to see to it that
- 1:13:07like, you know, they don't lose it.
- 1:13:09It's very complex. You can't just pack up and
- 1:13:12leave. You're going to leave everything
- 1:13:13behind and you're going to lose everything.
- 1:13:15So it's a lot more complex than that.
- 1:13:17Or broad multi layered, right? I don't know.
- 1:13:23I mean, I guess put yourself in their situation.
- 1:13:26I mean, like, how easy would it be for you guys to go ahead and
- 1:13:29just uproot your entire life and start all over again, especially
- 1:13:32with like, you know, having a wife or children and friends and
- 1:13:35neighbors. And you know, that's the.
- 1:13:39PTSD, right? So you got to think people are
- 1:13:42literally working through PTSD. We're seeing a little bit of
- 1:13:45like people come out of it from love being actionary, people
- 1:13:50stepping in and you're seeing a little bit of humanity come back
- 1:13:53because trauma in that place of fear, the way that that is that
- 1:13:58it chains up the mind and your. Ability to to.
- 1:14:01Think clearly is is pretty deep right and so how many people
- 1:14:04lost family members in that region like Uncle Bob's dead
- 1:14:07down in that ditch. We're not going anywhere until,
- 1:14:10you know, we did this ditch out in the whole valley out and
- 1:14:14whatever I mean, and then the whole generational thing and you
- 1:14:16know guns. I really kind of wanted to ask
- 1:14:18you, even with the spiritual environment, like as deep as you
- 1:14:22guys go into this and as much of insight that you have, the
- 1:14:25spiritual legalities over something like this, with all
- 1:14:29the tug of war of principalities and powers, what would you do?
- 1:14:32Like a 30,000 foot view on captivity, fear and then the
- 1:14:38light of Christ trying to shine into that.
- 1:14:40A face like the sun if I may. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:14:45I mean, these principalities and powers have always been
- 1:14:48described as territorial spirits.
- 1:14:51So they've probably have certain jurisdiction over various
- 1:14:56regions. And if, if there was some plan
- 1:15:01or some desire for these principalities and powers to, I
- 1:15:04don't know, change the landscape of the kind of people that live
- 1:15:11in certain parts of the world, then it's entirely possible that
- 1:15:15there were, you know, messaging that would come from the
- 1:15:18spiritual realm to who knows what, what trickled down in
- 1:15:23terms of the bureaucratic process or, or governments or,
- 1:15:26or whatever. And, yeah, I mean, it's, it's I,
- 1:15:29I see this and the people staying there in the resilience,
- 1:15:33you know, on top of just, hey, this is my property.
- 1:15:36This is generations, you know, maybe hundreds of years of my
- 1:15:40family lying here, you know, taking care of this land.
- 1:15:44Yeah, I can see them pushing. And I think we should, you know,
- 1:15:47getting more fired up as I realized because I came into
- 1:15:50this conversation again, not knowing fully the situation I
- 1:15:53had. But yeah, I think we need to get
- 1:15:55the the word out because at the very least, people praying for
- 1:16:00those folks there, even if they don't even know that there's
- 1:16:02people praying, could make a big difference in just preserving
- 1:16:08the kind of people that are there that are trying to get
- 1:16:10pushed out. You know, if we're looking at it
- 1:16:12from that 30 foot or 30,000 foot spiritual perspective, it does
- 1:16:16feel like that land, not just a land grab of but hey, let's try
- 1:16:20to get these guys out of here. We'll send them a storm, send
- 1:16:24them a whatever, send them government, you know, FEMA
- 1:16:28papers that say we own this land now because it's a disaster
- 1:16:32location or whatever. But if enough people are aware
- 1:16:36of it through not just, you know, the awareness on social
- 1:16:40media or people being loud on, on the Internet or something,
- 1:16:43but beyond that with prayer, I think that that kind of thing
- 1:16:46can be prevented. And that ultimately this is, you
- 1:16:50know, every little conflict, every situation like this is a
- 1:16:53microcosm of a bigger the entire war taking place.
- 1:16:57These are little battles taking place.
- 1:16:59So, you know, just highlighting the the current status of
- 1:17:03everything and and letting people know what to pray for.
- 1:17:07I think it can be very powerful, important.
- 1:17:09No, it's huge. It's huge.
- 1:17:11I mean, you think about the spiritual significance of people
- 1:17:15standing their ground in that place.
- 1:17:17They have a spiritual connection, their familial
- 1:17:20connection, their presence. There is a claim spiritually
- 1:17:29into the land that it belongs to Americans.
- 1:17:33It doesn't belong to America. It belongs to people, children
- 1:17:37of God, their presence standing their ground from principalities
- 1:17:41and powers. And just because I know we'll
- 1:17:43have a, a, a various people of various sort of ways of thinking
- 1:17:49of this. You know when we say
- 1:17:50principalities and powers and worldly governors.
- 1:17:53If you go back to my favorite edition of that verse, you know
- 1:17:57that you could think of that literally.
- 1:17:59You could think of that metaphorically, you could think
- 1:18:01of that allegorically, because it is all of that.
- 1:18:02I mean, it's all like you talk about the the corporate
- 1:18:07principalities, the court, the spirit of American monopolistic
- 1:18:11corporate power whose number one goal, stated goal and legal
- 1:18:17responsibility is to extract as much wealth from the earth and
- 1:18:23from people as possible. And you know, I don't need to
- 1:18:26get into the whole conspiracy theory or whatever, but that's
- 1:18:29very valuable and important land.
- 1:18:32And it's very valuable and important in different ways to
- 1:18:36different people to the corporate sort of dark spirits
- 1:18:42that that rule obviously our society.
- 1:18:45I mean, that's very valuable land in in capital and in
- 1:18:48resources in, you know, it, it creates a new market for
- 1:18:53extraction, not just from the ground, but from people as well.
- 1:18:57And it's the people, the spiritual connection to the land
- 1:19:02that these people are saying, no, this is mine.
- 1:19:04I'm here, I don't care, I don't want to sell, I'm not going to
- 1:19:10run. Those are the people who are
- 1:19:12protecting God's creation in that area from, who knows,
- 1:19:18possible absolute extortion by, by the corporate powers, the
- 1:19:26principalities and powers. So you know, in a way people, of
- 1:19:31course, they're, they're, they're, they're in pure
- 1:19:34survival mode. They're not thinking in in ways
- 1:19:38that somebody like us or like a listener maybe sitting on their
- 1:19:42couch or making dinner in their warm home and their their food
- 1:19:46that they have so much of or whatever.
- 1:19:48And of course there's people who are not that lucky, but someone
- 1:19:51there thinking like, oh, why don't they just go to a warm
- 1:19:54house with food and stuff. You know, these are it's an
- 1:19:58entirely different. I mean, honestly, spiritual
- 1:20:03posture, these people are into, into recovery, protection,
- 1:20:08survival in both in the physical and in the spiritual.
- 1:20:13So I, I thank you for letting me process that out loud because
- 1:20:16that I think that answers that question for me and I hope it
- 1:20:19gains some insight for other people.
- 1:20:21I was going to preach, preach, preach.
- 1:20:24I was preaching. I was going to say that, you
- 1:20:26know, people always ask me like, are we in the end times?
- 1:20:29Are we in the end times? And obviously we are.
- 1:20:32Every moment is closer to the return of Christ.
- 1:20:35But there is an element that people don't consider enough,
- 1:20:38which is our role in the unfolding of the end times.
- 1:20:41And you know, if the church just like keeled over and was like,
- 1:20:46you know, government, take a whatever, we just keeled over
- 1:20:48and everything, I think the end times will come way faster, you
- 1:20:51know, and so I there are there's something to be said about
- 1:20:54actual action, you know, like pushing back against the
- 1:20:58principalities and powers and what that looks like.
- 1:21:00And for I think this is a great example because, you know, it
- 1:21:04seems like whether you don't have to go down the rabbit hole
- 1:21:07of, hey, the do the government's control the weather and did they
- 1:21:11spin up a hurricane and try to mess things up?
- 1:21:13I mean, you could do that, which is a fascinating conversation.
- 1:21:15And I wouldn't doubt, you know, the the capabilities are there,
- 1:21:18at least according to my research.
- 1:21:20So that's one thing, but also how how do the people respond to
- 1:21:25it? Because if it is, if, if it is
- 1:21:27just like a hey, yeah, they're just too powerful.
- 1:21:29We're just going to keel over and, yeah, let them take the
- 1:21:31land, let them take the resources, and we'll move
- 1:21:34somewhere else. Wow.
- 1:21:34And start somewhere else. You know, if we push back, the
- 1:21:38timeline of the end times can even change.
- 1:21:40So, you know, this is just part of the things that we can be
- 1:21:43expressing, thinking about and and supporting the folks there.
- 1:21:47So, yeah, that's good stuff. Good stuff.
- 1:21:49Yeah. Amen.
- 1:21:51I haven't no posturing, right? I mean, like this is like the
- 1:21:54body of Christ rising back up. You know, you have those amazing
- 1:21:57documentaries, Age of deceit and you know, you were just talking
- 1:22:01guys about, you know, why isn't, you know, this inspirational
- 1:22:05like good things that are happening in the mountains?
- 1:22:07Like why isn't that being broadcasted, right?
- 1:22:10And it's just like, well, you know, here's another pun for
- 1:22:12you. Age of deceit, right?
- 1:22:14We got that age of defeat. They want us defeated.
- 1:22:17They don't want all this good messaging and heavenly posturing
- 1:22:21being spread around. They don't want they want
- 1:22:25everybody to think that the time is nigh.
- 1:22:28We lose no matter what we do. It's the end of times.
- 1:22:31The government, they're too big, they're too strong that we
- 1:22:35can't, we can't do it. There's nothing to do.
- 1:22:37We're defeated, right? Yeah.
- 1:22:39So they don't want this kind of messaging getting out there.
- 1:22:44Yeah, I know I can. Agree with you there.
- 1:22:45It's too. Powerful.
- 1:22:47It's too powerful. Well, Michael Basham, so I kind
- 1:22:50of want to ask with you being in the vicinity of the area, I
- 1:22:54think it was last year around this time we had did that
- 1:22:56broadcast talking about, you know, small town witches and
- 1:22:59trolls literally trying to infiltrate every level of
- 1:23:02government and do some really dark and gnarly things.
- 1:23:05Well, now you know, we have guns kind of putting the the
- 1:23:08spiritual, you know, twist on it like with the the
- 1:23:11principalities, powers, rulers. We have boots on the ground.
- 1:23:13We have Basil just really thinking deeper for us and and
- 1:23:17proving this multi layered. How is all of this fitting in
- 1:23:20with your experience from this, this slice of the Carolinas?
- 1:23:24Like what what is going through your mind?
- 1:23:26What is your experiences right now?
- 1:23:29Help me understand what it's like where your base is.
- 1:23:32One word revolution. Wait, No 2 words.
- 1:23:35Revival, revolution and the word of God in our mouths.
- 1:23:41Not religion, not tradition. There's poverty in these
- 1:23:45mountains. They're not ready for all the
- 1:23:49witches. Asheville is like hell on earth.
- 1:23:53When you go there, if you have any spiritual sensitivity and
- 1:23:55you're a Christian, it's like a zombie movie.
- 1:23:58It's like Resident Evil Village. It's really like that.
- 1:24:02And we were praying. We have prophecies in this
- 1:24:05prayer team. The glory of God will come down
- 1:24:09upon Waynesville from the heavens and extend out into all
- 1:24:14the nations from this little tiny town.
- 1:24:16That's how we how we operate and that water as sad as all these
- 1:24:20stories are you're hearing guys, it's it's now you're seeing the
- 1:24:23warriors rise. I'm seeing humility I'm seeing
- 1:24:26people are open to the word whereas before you people are
- 1:24:30just like I got out of my church over there.
- 1:24:32Now they're coming to like heavy duty Bible studies.
- 1:24:35I mean, we're, we're word freaks over here and you guys
- 1:24:39listening, this is a call to action.
- 1:24:41You need to get in the Bible and get that word in your life day
- 1:24:45in and day out. Support Canary cry radio,
- 1:24:48millennial mustard seed, fringe radio network teams.
- 1:24:52We've got let's get jacked up as saying hi.
- 1:24:54By the way, the boys from there. There's all these teams that
- 1:24:56were coming together and we love each other, the love of the, the
- 1:24:59unity of the brethren. But why do we do that?
- 1:25:02Because we're all like into Trump or we hate corruption.
- 1:25:07Mormons and Buddhists hate them. Corruption loved Trump.
- 1:25:12Amazing. You know, Yeah.
- 1:25:13I mean, this is the thing God's about to do something here and
- 1:25:16he is doing it. And it's going to be pray for
- 1:25:19us. You're going to see the church
- 1:25:21people freak out. I have a church that they're
- 1:25:24guarding this guy that's he's on investigation for child
- 1:25:27grooming. And the church kicked out his
- 1:25:30his soon to be ex-wife because she wouldn't honor him.
- 1:25:34What other groomers are in that church?
- 1:25:35There's this huge mega church, middle of nowhere.
- 1:25:38It's like, where do they get the money?
- 1:25:40What's going on here? So there's a lot of filthiness.
- 1:25:42I was involved in politics last year and little Michael Basham
- 1:25:47with this little podcast thing, except fringe radio network's
- 1:25:50big, but they asked me to do their media.
- 1:25:53So I got to see first hand witches coming out of the
- 1:25:56woodwork publicly curse this campaign, all the bigoted Trump
- 1:26:01people. And I was like, man, there's
- 1:26:03like, this is a conservative, beautiful little mountain town
- 1:26:07and it's just crawling with insane communists, organized,
- 1:26:12funded, bringing in homeless people by the busload.
- 1:26:17And the local people rose up and they it was Team Waynesville.
- 1:26:20You can listen to the podcast from a year ago, exactly a year
- 1:26:22ago. So it's been amazing, you know?
- 1:26:25Spiritual Insurgency Man is so interesting and you guys are
- 1:26:28just like right there on it. Gonz is going to represent he
- 1:26:34and I in another call that he needs to take, but I'll have
- 1:26:39another 1020 minutes and yeah, this is work for you.
- 1:26:45Thank you guys appreciate you guys letting me be here and keep
- 1:26:48me in keep me in keep yeah stay in touch with me.
- 1:26:50I need. I want to know everything going
- 1:26:52on. I did want to play this because
- 1:26:53I I feel this ISO. Let's invite some dudes over in
- 1:26:57fellowship tonight. That's that's what.
- 1:26:59It is right here. Guns, man, It's it's always an
- 1:27:06honor that's. Pretty good.
- 1:27:10Somebody's been working on their, their Japanese there, you
- 1:27:13know, that's just. Japanese my entire life for
- 1:27:16this. I've been working on Tagalog.
- 1:27:19No one else I know that is Americanized that also is
- 1:27:22interested in learning Tagalog. So that leaves me and my wife.
- 1:27:25Yeah, you can go to to the Philippines.
- 1:27:28You'll you'll brew in that place, Yeah.
- 1:27:30Yeah, well, I mean, there's, there's a lot of meekness there
- 1:27:33that will roll from those islands at some point, just like
- 1:27:36many of the places, man. And you know, Gans, I just want
- 1:27:40to thank you. I know you're cutting out to go
- 1:27:42represent Canary Cry somewhere else, man.
- 1:27:44And I just want to bless you and just say, yes, man, you're,
- 1:27:48you're a giant in the spirit. And I don't say that to puff
- 1:27:51your head up. I say that to say you have
- 1:27:54rippled out. There's a a scripture in Hebrews
- 1:27:56that says cast not away your confidence, which has great
- 1:28:00recompense of reward. Amen and.
- 1:28:04I'll just leave you with that. So we talk again, which I hope,
- 1:28:06praise God is soon. Yeah, thank you.
- 1:28:09Appreciate it. And yeah, stay in touch.
- 1:28:12God bless you guys. See you again.
- 1:28:13Bless you. OK, now that dad's out of here,
- 1:28:18we can really talk about it. The age of deceit stuff is is
- 1:28:25legendary, right? And and your guys shows are just
- 1:28:28legendary. And then even with Michael
- 1:28:30Basham and just the background there and what we started out
- 1:28:35talking about this cloak of love over all of this.
- 1:28:38And then we have the willingness of a guy like Aaron.
- 1:28:42I think he landed at blurry creatures originally, right?
- 1:28:44You listened through that. Somehow you got the prophecy
- 1:28:46watchers. And then I think you talked
- 1:28:49about this on one of the recordings on the mustard seed.
- 1:28:51But then you're like, then I found the millennial mustard
- 1:28:53seed, right? And now God is slingshotting you
- 1:28:57out into a place where we're collaborating with the people
- 1:29:01that you originally started listening to.
- 1:29:03You're acting on behalf of your faith and now you're coming back
- 1:29:05and reporting to some of these groups.
- 1:29:07And I'm just like watching it like this is there's interesting
- 1:29:11anointing on this. This is not just like you can't
- 1:29:13make this up. We couldn't plan this.
- 1:29:16This is like there's an anointing on this.
- 1:29:17It's it's pretty powerful stuff. It's.
- 1:29:19Incredible. You know, and it's, I think it
- 1:29:21mirrors the situation with you going out to North Carolina as
- 1:29:25well. This is going to be, this might
- 1:29:29be a little laborious, but let me see if I can get us through
- 1:29:32it. You know, lots of people feel
- 1:29:35called to go out and help, but very few do.
- 1:29:40But anybody who does make the decision and move their feet in
- 1:29:47the direction that their mind or their heart wants them to go can
- 1:29:51do it. It's not as it it, there's no
- 1:29:54gate. I mean, I there's various
- 1:29:56versions of a gatekeeper or whatever, but if somebody wants
- 1:29:59to do it and they want to do it enough that they take the
- 1:30:02actions to do it, they can do it.
- 1:30:04They can go be that warrior of light in those positions.
- 1:30:10They can experience the love that is generated when people
- 1:30:13help each other. They of course, boots on the
- 1:30:16ground, meeting needs that are forgotten by so many others.
- 1:30:20And all it takes is someone to not just want to go, but then
- 1:30:23boom, tie your shoes and go. And in a similar way, and I've
- 1:30:26always kind of, I've never described it this way, but when
- 1:30:30it comes to the information part of the spiritual warfare, which
- 1:30:37you know, those of us who do podcasts or or videos or
- 1:30:40whatever live streams, whatever it is, I mean, that's what it
- 1:30:44is. So you're the sort of
- 1:30:45information brigade. And in this five fifth
- 1:30:48generation warfare, like that's the front lines in a lot of
- 1:30:51ways, considering that the minds and spirits of civilians are the
- 1:30:57primary target of 5th generational warfare, even
- 1:30:59between geopolitical rivals. And so I say the same thing when
- 1:31:05people, it has been an absolute joy and pleasure to watch people
- 1:31:15rise up with their voices and participate in the, the battles
- 1:31:21and the, the warfare using their minds and their hearts and the
- 1:31:24spirit that God, God gives them. And, and in the same way that
- 1:31:29somebody can just choose to stand up and walk and be the
- 1:31:33hands and feet of God, there's you can also choose and walk.
- 1:31:39And if you move in the direction, I won't say that
- 1:31:42you're necessarily the mouth of God, because that has other
- 1:31:45connotations, but you can maybe be the megaphone for what, for
- 1:31:49the message that God wants to get out there.
- 1:31:51You can be the the microphone, the tool through which God's
- 1:31:55will is done in certain areas of reality here.
- 1:31:59And it's really is how it is. And I think a lot of us have
- 1:32:03this experience where anybody out there who has something to
- 1:32:09say, anybody out there who wants to participate, wants to
- 1:32:13participate in what God is doing on the Internet, in the
- 1:32:17information space, they can do it.
- 1:32:20And in the same way, there's millions of people who want to
- 1:32:23do it, but they don't tie up their boots, plug in their
- 1:32:27microphone and actually do it. And I want this to be an example
- 1:32:31of how accessible participation is.
- 1:32:33It is not chosen for a few special people.
- 1:32:38The only the only obstacle to participation is is your own
- 1:32:44shoe tying ability. And so Aaron, it's so fun to
- 1:32:48hear your story, not only of your your physical work out of
- 1:32:53South Carolina, but also this sort of 5th generational
- 1:32:57spiritual work of getting the message out there.
- 1:33:00And it sounds like Rod, you are a primary motivation for him to
- 1:33:04do that and maybe even a little bit of a mentor in that way.
- 1:33:07And that's an incredible, it's an incredible example of anybody
- 1:33:14out there listening right now. Now look, there's a bad way.
- 1:33:19There's a it at my worst of which, praise God, I'm not at my
- 1:33:24worst every day, but it is often at my worst.
- 1:33:28I think to myself, and I say out loud to whoever will listen, you
- 1:33:34think you can do better. You think you could do a better
- 1:33:36podcast. Go start a podcast.
- 1:33:38Go do your own podcast. I want you to do it.
- 1:33:41That's, that's in the, you know, when I'm not at my best on a
- 1:33:43certain day, but when I am at my best, go participate in the 5th
- 1:33:48generation award, go start a podcast and you know, go do it.
- 1:33:52And you don't even, you know, starting is another thing.
- 1:33:54Starting is a little bit more difficult, but when you just
- 1:33:58participate, you show up, you get in contact, you make it a
- 1:34:02habit. You know, I will say a lot of
- 1:34:05people we, we do, there are a number of people out there who
- 1:34:08will send one e-mail and it gets buried and they, they get sort
- 1:34:12of upset that they didn't hear back.
- 1:34:14And then that ends their possible career and podcasting.
- 1:34:16And that's, that's too bad. But it's really for those who
- 1:34:19tie their laces and take step by step by step and moving in the
- 1:34:24direction of what God is doing. And so Aaron, you're a great
- 1:34:28example of that in both ways. You're like some sort of, you
- 1:34:33know, 5th generational paratrooper, you know, all the
- 1:34:39multi domain dominance here. So very, very impressed and
- 1:34:45thank you so much for getting the information out that you
- 1:34:47have been getting out. Yeah, No thank you.
- 1:34:52Like I said, I, I, I see where you're going with this and I, I
- 1:34:56just kind of want to piggyback off of that.
- 1:34:59So for anybody that thinks that you're not capable of like going
- 1:35:02out and doing good things or being spirit LED, just listen
- 1:35:07because God talks to you in his own way, right?
- 1:35:10It could be through a dream, it could be through your
- 1:35:12subconscious, whatever, you know, it could be something
- 1:35:15very, very intentional as well. And you know, like when I had
- 1:35:21that moment, you know, like I had that choice, you know, it's
- 1:35:24just like, what am I going to do?
- 1:35:25I want to go out there, what, what does Aaron want?
- 1:35:28What does God want? And I, I think it really just
- 1:35:31has to do with like kind of turning it off for a second and
- 1:35:33not thinking about like, you know, what's comfortable for
- 1:35:35you, You know, what God's calling you and leading you in
- 1:35:38this way. And like there's that we talked
- 1:35:42about this rod, right? That free will, right?
- 1:35:46God gave me free will. He showed me clearly that he
- 1:35:49wanted me to go out there and that there was something greater
- 1:35:52happening. And I had that free will to be,
- 1:35:55you know, answer the call yes or no.
- 1:35:58And honestly, when you follow God and you're led by the
- 1:36:01Spirit, he does amazing things. Again, this has been the most
- 1:36:05incredible experience. Everything.
- 1:36:07I mean, I think there's no words to really kind of explain the
- 1:36:12Spirit, but when you know, you know, and this conversation
- 1:36:18happening right now, this has nothing to do with me.
- 1:36:20This has nothing to do with Rod. This has nothing to do with
- 1:36:23Michael or Basil. This is the Spirit bringing
- 1:36:26everybody together and yes, glorifying God.
- 1:36:30Yeah, Amen man, Amen. Well, I hope that people do take
- 1:36:35some inspiration from this and whatever God is pulling them
- 1:36:39towards, and I mean, not to be forgotten, Michael, you're out
- 1:36:44there. You're still boots on the
- 1:36:45ground, buddy. You're there, you're making it
- 1:36:47happen. Was this?
- 1:36:50Possible. You're you're doing my.
- 1:36:52My highlight was being on the On Your Conspiracy show from
- 1:36:57Leicester. Wow, it's like the Joyce piracy
- 1:37:00theory. Joyce piracy?
- 1:37:01Yes Sir, that's the highlight of my whole journey here on
- 1:37:05Internet Battle World. You know, what I love about that
- 1:37:08is you were the last episode that I did before I stopped
- 1:37:12doing episodes for a while. So like the first, the very
- 1:37:16first episode people would come across for years was yours.
- 1:37:21And I believe if I remember correctly, the title of yours is
- 1:37:26TJT versus Michael in quotation marks.
- 1:37:29I joined a hippie sex cult or something like that.
- 1:37:33Forget what it is. So it really gave a very unique
- 1:37:39first impression to the show for a very long time, which I
- 1:37:42appreciate. No, but this is very powerful.
- 1:37:46This is extremely powerful being here with you guys and Rod man,
- 1:37:49you just keep trucking along. I'm very impressed, man.
- 1:37:52I mean, there's we've had plenty of contact with a lot of great
- 1:37:58guys and gals who are are doing the work, putting out the
- 1:38:03episodes, scheduling the things, doing it, doing it.
- 1:38:07But it is a a day by day achievement to continue doing
- 1:38:16that work as anybody who has ever tried to do a podcast and
- 1:38:20do it consistently and do it well.
- 1:38:23It starts as a fun idea, but then it very much becomes a
- 1:38:27focus of your life and it has to, or else it doesn't happen.
- 1:38:32Oh you, you have spoken the perfect word in the perfect
- 1:38:35season of my life, so it's funny.
- 1:38:38Praise me to He who speaketh through me.
- 1:38:41I mean, feel like I'm. Going to start using that.
- 1:38:46As we start to understand the body coming together and what
- 1:38:52God is doing in this day and age.
- 1:38:54Basil, I think he brought this up earlier on and actually had
- 1:38:57an interview yesterday with Dan Duvall.
- 1:38:59I think it's like the fifth time he's been on.
- 1:39:02And he was even mentioning and paralleling what you said.
- 1:39:06And it's like we can take this perspective where we just say
- 1:39:09the end is coming. Look at the beast system, look
- 1:39:12at the enemy, look, look how deep and crazy this satanic
- 1:39:16ritual abuse is. And they've infiltrated all the
- 1:39:19three letter agencies RAW. So I'm going to go hide under a
- 1:39:22rock now or get my peanuts and my shotgun shells and hide in
- 1:39:26the closet of my house. Or you can literally understand,
- 1:39:32this is the perfect opportunity for the body of Christ to rise
- 1:39:35and shine. Gross darkness will cover the
- 1:39:38earth, but his glory will be seen risen upon you, it says in
- 1:39:44Isaiah 60. And I think about this and it's
- 1:39:46like no man's worthy. We're all saved by grace through
- 1:39:50faith in the one name that's above every name.
- 1:39:53But there's the prophetic that that's like circumpunct him,
- 1:39:57like it repeats itself through the ages.
- 1:39:59And we see the spirit of Joshua and Caleb and David where in the
- 1:40:04midst of just being crushed and in the gutter, they're crying
- 1:40:06out, saying, the Lord is my strong tower, right?
- 1:40:09And I'm not going to relent. I'm not going to back off and it
- 1:40:11doesn't mean go start a militia and and especially not some
- 1:40:16hippie sex cold or do not do any of that stuff as Michael
- 1:40:19disappears off the screen because I just gave him an open
- 1:40:22rebuke. It's better than a head of love
- 1:40:23Michael good timing. But you know when we start to
- 1:40:26really understand the spirit that should be in the body of
- 1:40:29Christ through what God has given us the the arsenal A5 fold
- 1:40:32ministry. We have mouthpieces, we have
- 1:40:34willing hands, we have willing feet.
- 1:40:36We have people that have. A hidden skill set that has been
- 1:40:40buried in the legalities, in the religious spirit of the
- 1:40:43corporate church in Western Christianity.
- 1:40:46And we literally have, like Doctor Laura Sander says, a
- 1:40:49generation that's no longer enslaved.
- 1:40:51We we were hoodwinked. Cool.
- 1:40:54I get it. I was hoodwinked.
- 1:40:55Each one of us was hoodwinked. But that doesn't mean we need to
- 1:40:58remain in that place. So I've done this once before on
- 1:41:04the entire podcast over the last six years, five years, whatever
- 1:41:07it's been, but I feel led to read bodies to you guys.
- 1:41:12The last time I did this, I got emails in from all around the
- 1:41:15world. It's in my book that released
- 1:41:17early this year, but it really does touch on, I think, what
- 1:41:21each one of us can relate to, which is we start out
- 1:41:24individual, my aches, my pains, me, me, me, and it morphs over
- 1:41:28time through this, this small speak piece.
- 1:41:31I'm going to read to you guys into being the body of Christ.
- 1:41:37So it starts out like this. I'm a nobody living in a body.
- 1:41:42I've seen somebody lose their body.
- 1:41:45The trauma goes deep, I swear, and parts of my body don't work
- 1:41:49like a normal body. Much of the time I'm in despair.
- 1:41:54I'm not normal to everybody. Some mock and they stare.
- 1:41:58Some have abused my body and I wonder, does anybody care?
- 1:42:03I've heard of the One who created my body in my mother's
- 1:42:06womb, wonderfully and fearfully created, embodying His design
- 1:42:10and truth. I ponder on this, fearful that I
- 1:42:14may never really know the length, the depth, the breadth
- 1:42:18and the height. As my body shakes and trembles
- 1:42:20during the darkest times of night, I wake and tell everybody
- 1:42:24about somebody who covers with his body.
- 1:42:26His name is Christ, he says. He has a body of believers, a
- 1:42:31rare remnant, a body that cares. I wonder how to help a body
- 1:42:36that's fearful and so scared. He tells me be the body and
- 1:42:41never compare. Each member makes my body and of
- 1:42:44this I deeply care. Continue to love my body,
- 1:42:48becoming nobody for love is rare.
- 1:42:50It covers many sins. I see you son, and I care.
- 1:42:55And if they come to kill your body being you represent my
- 1:42:57body. Remember my body in despair,
- 1:43:01broken and beaten, crucified. I gave my body for love.
- 1:43:04It's all a part of the plan, my son.
- 1:43:06Stay focused on what's above. I'll be with you and everybody
- 1:43:11until the end of the age, I swear.
- 1:43:14Waiting with a heavenly body and nothing you know could compare.
- 1:43:21Wow, that's incredible. Is that in your book?
- 1:43:24Did I must? Did you write that?
- 1:43:27Yeah, that's that's my book called the Words are salt.
- 1:43:31It was his way was prophesied by Doctor Laura Sanger in 2022.
- 1:43:36I was I've been writing poetry for a long time.
- 1:43:38It was just meant to be for my kids.
- 1:43:40But this this prophetic thing developed a book called The
- 1:43:44Words are Salt where God was waking me up to three in the
- 1:43:47morning. I'm crying writing this stuff
- 1:43:48down trying to understand why, but bodies was one that it went
- 1:43:54out into the airwaves with with Carly tabs earlier on, like
- 1:43:58maybe in the 80s and the 90s or one early one hundreds same time
- 1:44:02you were on Basma and that people purchased the book and
- 1:44:08started using that to minister to women.
- 1:44:10That poem specifically. I know that have been, you know,
- 1:44:14trafficked and just horrible things have happened to them.
- 1:44:17And once I started to understand, man, it just makes
- 1:44:19me like breakdown. I'm like this is but anyway to
- 1:44:22answer it and sorry for babbling on.
- 1:44:24It's it's in the words our salt, but I felt like it's Aaron.
- 1:44:28There were so many people that were encouraged by you coming on
- 1:44:32the podcast and representing these stories from the
- 1:44:34mountains, right? And then there was like this
- 1:44:37like camaraderie that started to grow in the region.
- 1:44:40And I really felt like bodies is is going to hit somebody there.
- 1:44:44Like I'm expecting an e-mail, Aaron, you see, you help me with
- 1:44:47behind the scenes stuff on the podcast.
- 1:44:49You see some of the emails, some of the testimonies.
- 1:44:52And I really do I felt led to read that at the end of this for
- 1:44:55the, the person who listens all the way through, you know, the
- 1:44:58every word that we all say and that they would just hear bodies
- 1:45:02and it would it would just comfort them in a whole new way.
- 1:45:05So I'm hoping. You know, if I may just because
- 1:45:08I'll forget it if I don't do it. the IT was so impactful hearing
- 1:45:12you read that because it spoke to something that for me has
- 1:45:17been one of the maybe most soul shifting ideas in my faith.
- 1:45:26And that is the the body, the my physical, literal body.
- 1:45:34And this was interesting. This came up during a
- 1:45:37conversation I was having with somebody at Burning Man who is
- 1:45:41very much into Gnosticism. And I love talking to people
- 1:45:45like that because I love teaching them about Gnosticism,
- 1:45:50things that they might not have known or misconceptions that
- 1:45:55they might have about Christianity, misconceptions
- 1:45:59they have about the Bible and God and things like that.
- 1:46:02The idea that the the body, our physical body is less important
- 1:46:11than our soul or disconnected in a way that leads us to to
- 1:46:20disregard at at at the very best.
- 1:46:23Often times it's just to disregard the physical body.
- 1:46:27The physical body is often we can take, and I'm not trying to
- 1:46:31change anybody's theology here, but often we can try to take
- 1:46:35comfort in the fact that our physical body is one way, but it
- 1:46:41doesn't really matter because I'm going to go to heaven.
- 1:46:43My spirit will be there or something can happen to the
- 1:46:45physical body and you can say, well, at least, you know, at
- 1:46:50least my spirit is, is fine and I'll fly away and it'll be
- 1:46:55leftover after this body dies. But the the holiness of our
- 1:47:03physical body is an incredibly important thing for us to
- 1:47:11really, really rest into rest into that knowledge.
- 1:47:16It was one of the primary Gnostic heresies.
- 1:47:21And this is, you know, people get pretty got uncomfortable
- 1:47:23with this because, you know, everybody likes to think their
- 1:47:26theology is perfect. I'm not trying to change
- 1:47:27anybody's and I'm not trying to. I'm definitely not saying
- 1:47:31anybody should change any of their dogma for my sake.
- 1:47:34But one of the primary characteristics of the Gnostic
- 1:47:37heresy was the separation of the spirit and the body, that the
- 1:47:46spirit is good and the body is bad.
- 1:47:49Now of course there's passages in the Bible talking about
- 1:47:53fleshliness, fleshly desires, the flesh and and things like
- 1:47:57this. But the the inherent essence of
- 1:48:03our physical body is not evil. And that was the Gnostic heresy
- 1:48:10that all that is spirit is good and all that is fleshly or
- 1:48:16fleshly is a hard word because it has different connotations.
- 1:48:19All that is biological is bad. And when you really sit and
- 1:48:25consider the fact that an entire group of people who people still
- 1:48:30to this day are fighting against the Gnostic heresies sinking
- 1:48:35into common Christianity, and this is maybe the number one
- 1:48:40heresy that has some. And when I say heresy, I call it
- 1:48:43heresy because that's what the Catholic Church at the time
- 1:48:47called it. This is it's categorical thing.
- 1:48:50So keep that in mind. But the the very idea is you go
- 1:48:56back to the Old Testament, you go back to the ancient
- 1:48:58Israelites, you go back to the the roots of what God has done
- 1:49:04on this earth with his covenant with man and his history that
- 1:49:08has played out in all of our bodies.
- 1:49:14Our bodies are not a temple for the Holy Spirit because they are
- 1:49:20bad. Our bodies are a temple for the
- 1:49:23Holy Spirit because they are good and because God made them
- 1:49:28that way. And you don't.
- 1:49:33You wouldn't build a temple for God in a in a in a building that
- 1:49:39is made of rotting wood. Maybe if you needed a place to
- 1:49:44camp, perhaps in an emergency zone or something, God will fill
- 1:49:48any vessel that you give it. But the the when we really
- 1:49:55change our hearts about the nature of our bodies and the
- 1:50:00goodness of our bodies and the perfection that is the
- 1:50:04biological machine that God created, invented with a breath
- 1:50:09from his lungs, gave it to us as a gift to be our primary
- 1:50:15vehicle, our primary mode of operating.
- 1:50:20And to go around thinking that our body is, is bad to think
- 1:50:24that it, it, it doesn't deserve the same attention that our
- 1:50:27spirits deserve, you know, and there's a Joe Rogan way to think
- 1:50:32about it. Like, yeah, go, you know, take
- 1:50:34your supplements and work out. And that's all very good.
- 1:50:36And that is very important. And thank God, you know, my my
- 1:50:41thoughts about my body changed in time for me to do something
- 1:50:44about that, but to not just recognize that your body is
- 1:50:50holy, but that my body is holy and that their body is holy.
- 1:50:56And the bodies that are in the tents down in South Carolina and
- 1:51:00the bodies that are being pulled out of the crushed cars and the
- 1:51:03bodies that are there waiting in line to get some supplies out of
- 1:51:10the back of a truck that came from hundreds of miles away.
- 1:51:13It's the bodies of those people that we need to love
- 1:51:17immediately. And when I think about that
- 1:51:22church that is giving you trouble down there, it feels
- 1:51:26like to me that is an organization that is not
- 1:51:30recognizing and loving the holiness of the human bodies
- 1:51:35around them. A church like that, they want to
- 1:51:38build a building to bring in more people because they want to
- 1:51:41save more souls. And there's nothing wrong with
- 1:51:42that. But there comes a time in that
- 1:51:46operation where you see building a building to get more souls in
- 1:51:50the door to sing to them and to preach to them and to hopefully
- 1:51:55guide them into heaven, which is a noble goal, but is no more
- 1:51:58noble than loving the bodies that God created and have put in
- 1:52:04front of us and is the primary way that we can show love with
- 1:52:08our hands and our feet. There's it is not an accident
- 1:52:12that God operates in this world because people move their
- 1:52:15bodies. And so when I hear that piece
- 1:52:20that you read to me, Rod it, it communicated so many years, a
- 1:52:28decade or more of me journeying through this idea that our
- 1:52:35bodies are somehow less important than our minds, than
- 1:52:39our spirits within our souls. I believe that once someone
- 1:52:46individually, but also some people corporately, when we
- 1:52:50really get serious about viewing our bodies in the way that God
- 1:52:55views our bodies, that is when the real serious transformative
- 1:53:03power of what Christ came in a body to do on this earth.
- 1:53:10He did not come as a spirit. He is in a body.
- 1:53:15And guess what folks, that body is just like yours.
- 1:53:19It is almost identical in all the ways that matter.
- 1:53:25He may have been a little shorter than you.
- 1:53:28He may have been a little taller than you, but essentially your
- 1:53:32body, if you believe that the body of Christ is important, he
- 1:53:38had the same body as you and yours is important and it's the
- 1:53:41same body as your neighbor. And so let's let's once in a
- 1:53:45while, again, I'm not even saying everybody change your
- 1:53:49life because of this, although it did change mine once in a
- 1:53:52while. When you're looking around here
- 1:53:55and you're looking for ways, you're asking questions, you're
- 1:53:59in a situation, you're praying to God to change your mind about
- 1:54:02something. You're praying to God to give
- 1:54:03you direction and to give you his heart for something or
- 1:54:06someone. Give him a chance to change your
- 1:54:09mind about the bodies around you.
- 1:54:12And I think that. That.
- 1:54:15I think that might be one of the most important, one of the most
- 1:54:20important things for the world right now.
- 1:54:23Maybe not to be convinced of across the board, but like
- 1:54:27bureaucracy, who cares more about process than than outcome.
- 1:54:33I rebuke that. I reject it.
- 1:54:35And in this case, to our bodies, outcome is more important than
- 1:54:40process. That is, the essential sin is
- 1:54:47not even the right word. It's the it's the essential
- 1:54:49darkness that you see bureaucracy wield in this realm
- 1:54:54that we've been given. Is that to prioritize process
- 1:55:00over objective or outcome? Is Luciferian?
- 1:55:06It is Satanic, It is legalistic, It is Pharisitical.
- 1:55:11It is over and over again condemned by Scripture, by
- 1:55:17Christ, by the Holy Spirit. And This is why it lifts our
- 1:55:22spirits, it changes our mind. It it it it, it switches our our
- 1:55:29consciousness when someone hears about taking their bodies to go
- 1:55:33do the work of the Lord in a disaster area or something,
- 1:55:37despite bureaucracy. Process be damned.
- 1:55:43Outcome is what is is the is is primary.
- 1:55:49I mean, outcome is what speaks to, I mean, talk about our
- 1:55:52souls. It's the outcome that our souls
- 1:55:54crave. And it's because our souls want
- 1:55:56what's best for our bodies and other bodies.
- 1:55:59So thank you for sharing that with us, Rod, because I would
- 1:56:02love to get a copy of that book, by the way.
- 1:56:05I'm just going to read so it was endorsed by Doctor Laura Sanger
- 1:56:09and a very close friend and team member, Carly Tebbs.
- 1:56:13But Basil, what you were saying following up bodies, I'm just
- 1:56:16going to read a portion of her endorsement here In the
- 1:56:18beginning of the book. She says the first time I heard
- 1:56:21Rod read bodies on season 4, episode one or two of the
- 1:56:24Millennium Mustard C podcast, it harken back to the beautiful and
- 1:56:28precarious tension between our bodies being both the temple of
- 1:56:33the Holy Spirit and the most abused and regulated vessels of
- 1:56:38our human experience. And I'll leave it up to you guys
- 1:56:41to go read the rest of that from Carly.
- 1:56:43But you know, this is a fellowship.
- 1:56:48This is a signaling, right? We are literally using what God
- 1:56:53has given us. We have tied the boots, we've
- 1:56:55tied the shoelaces in many different ways.
- 1:56:58That's that's multi layered, obviously.
- 1:57:00And here we are echoing out hope causing more men out there to
- 1:57:06get together and and if you can make the trip into the
- 1:57:08mountains, pray about that. God, can I go in there?
- 1:57:12What do I have to offer? Do I have a camper?
- 1:57:16You know, I think a lot of goods that are covered right now or,
- 1:57:19or is what Aaron and Michael did say earlier, you know, there's
- 1:57:22basic like hygiene things that have been covered.
- 1:57:24There's, there's a lot of equipment, but there's housing
- 1:57:27problems there. I, I don't know, Billy Graham
- 1:57:31Ministry shows up, right? Aaron was sending me pictures.
- 1:57:33He's like, dude, Billy Graham's mission team just showed up.
- 1:57:36He's telling them about the podcast we're broadcasting out
- 1:57:39of there now. Billy Graham's checking out what
- 1:57:41we're doing here, right? And so is somebody listening who
- 1:57:45has land or resources, little houses, can you build little
- 1:57:51houses? Can you facilitate needs to be
- 1:57:54met. I do believe that some of these
- 1:57:55people are in a position where they might be willing to
- 1:57:58temporarily relocate, hopefully not too far in order to get
- 1:58:02through the winter. But I mean, I'm just, I'm just
- 1:58:06sending this stuff out there hoping we get something back.
- 1:58:10You know, just God, we're going to be bold.
- 1:58:12We're going to be courageous. We're going to ask.
- 1:58:14We're not going to not have it because we didn't ask.
- 1:58:16We're going to not have it because somebody couldn't meet
- 1:58:19the need. That's going to be the reason
- 1:58:20we're going to ask. OK.
- 1:58:22And here we are, teaming up, broadcasting hope, faith, using
- 1:58:25our voices, taking a posture in the midst of the craziest times
- 1:58:30ever. Like I listen to Canary Cry news
- 1:58:32talk. You know, the end of the world
- 1:58:33is tomorrow. Come listen to Basil and guns as
- 1:58:35we write if the world's nuts. And there you go.
- 1:58:39Aaron's already showing on the screen.
- 1:58:41He's like, Yep, going to pick this up later after I get off
- 1:58:43with Basil today. But here's the thing, you guys,
- 1:58:47faith is not dead. What we are hoping for, what is
- 1:58:51the substance of what we hope for?
- 1:58:53What is the evidence of the unseen?
- 1:58:55And I think in some ways it is going to be a body in motion,
- 1:59:01meeting each other's needs. So as we kind of wind down here,
- 1:59:05I mean anybody else, anything pressing on the hard?
- 1:59:08Is there some stuff that we didn't cover that really needs
- 1:59:10to be dealt with? You know, I'd love to just say
- 1:59:13one last thing that came to my mind as as you were saying that
- 1:59:16specifically calling out the men.
- 1:59:19I mean, you talk about how fallen this world is.
- 1:59:21You talk about how messed up the very idea of of men and what men
- 1:59:26are supposed to be and what men inherently are and and what men
- 1:59:30could be if only they took the right drugs or whatever.
- 1:59:34You know, men have a very specific relationship with their
- 1:59:40bodies. Of course, women also, the
- 1:59:42conversation about women in their bodies is is an ongoing
- 1:59:45and very important one. But one that I believe isn't
- 1:59:47talked about enough is the relationship between men and
- 1:59:50their bodies, because it is the the central failure of men who
- 1:59:55lay on their deathbed. And you ask them what would they
- 1:59:58change? And they all say I thought that.
- 2:00:03I was my income. I thought that I was my
- 2:00:06provision. I thought that I was, yeah, I
- 2:00:09could Skype into baseball games. I thought that so many other
- 2:00:14things are what made me important as a man.
- 2:00:16But for men, what's important is your body.
- 2:00:19If you're a, if you're a, if you're a father, the most
- 2:00:23important thing you can do is have your body in the same room
- 2:00:26as the rest of your family. Skyping in, sending an e-mail,
- 2:00:31doing whatever it doesn't, doesn't do it.
- 2:00:33Your body is what God created you for.
- 2:00:36Our bodies are bigger, our bodies are stronger.
- 2:00:38That's just inherently the truth.
- 2:00:40It's a, it's, it's something we can't get away from.
- 2:00:43And as men, you need to remember that your body is a extremely
- 2:00:54powerful tool for God. And it's not just about your
- 2:00:58muscles, although go make them bigger.
- 2:01:00It's not just about your height, but short kings can do things
- 2:01:07that tall guys can't. Whatever it is, it doesn't
- 2:01:09matter. Your body is the tool through
- 2:01:12which you act out the masculine calling that the Lord has placed
- 2:01:19upon your life. Your body can be dangerous, and
- 2:01:25people do consider men's bodies dangerous a lot of the time.
- 2:01:28But your bodies are also protectors.
- 2:01:31They're providers. They're the things moving the
- 2:01:34revel rubble. Your bodies are present when
- 2:01:38nobody else is present. Your body is what's there.
- 2:01:42It's, it's what you know, it's, it's, it's a large portion of
- 2:01:49what is important to your spouse or your loved one.
- 2:01:54It is, but it is so much more than just that because your body
- 2:01:58is what God used to separate you from the others.
- 2:02:06Yes, of course, the the women being a part of it, but also
- 2:02:10other men. You're you don't share a body
- 2:02:12with another man. You moving your body is the
- 2:02:17prophetic act that we've been talking about through this whole
- 2:02:21thing. You don't you don't accomplish
- 2:02:25God's will on earth without moving your body.
- 2:02:29And so I just want to specifically for all the dudes
- 2:02:32out there, I want to empower your mind to feel your body.
- 2:02:40Might sound silly, but a lot of guys are out there.
- 2:02:42They're just not. They don't feel like they're in
- 2:02:44a body, they're in their head. It's a battle that I battle all
- 2:02:47the time, feeling like I'm a brain in a jar or I am a spirit
- 2:02:52here to think about God all the time.
- 2:02:56But without our bodies, there's not much more that God separated
- 2:03:03men and women for then specifically our body.
- 2:03:08So put it to work. Put it to work and I guarantee
- 2:03:11you, you will feel better. You will think better, you will
- 2:03:14sleep better, you will have better relationships.
- 2:03:18Use your body for what God wants you to use it in your life.
- 2:03:24So I'm sorry, my computer totally crashed and I missed a
- 2:03:28little bit of that. I don't know if you guys see me
- 2:03:30disappear. You were back fast.
- 2:03:32That was pretty good. Well, praise God, shout out to
- 2:03:34Brett and Danika because they actually supplied this new
- 2:03:37computer which can handle like a really quick enter in, enter out
- 2:03:41upload stuff. So I've been been able to cruise
- 2:03:44through it, but this is a fresh setup and it was the weirdest
- 2:03:46thing. It literally froze my screen and
- 2:03:49it said we we're having an error transmuting whatever information
- 2:03:53and just shut me down and then reopened up.
- 2:03:56So the old computer, I never would have been back.
- 2:04:00So praise God. Praise God.
- 2:04:02For that, well, you'll get to hear it the second time around
- 2:04:06when you start editing Basil is. Appointed Basil, you have a
- 2:04:10unique and wonderful calling and.
- 2:04:14A. Way to just speak to men.
- 2:04:18I'm feeling it and my bones, brother.
- 2:04:20I'm going to start loving and affirming my body.
- 2:04:24You are a man. Your body is.
- 2:04:25Powerful. Your body was made by God to do
- 2:04:28very specific things. You might as well do it if
- 2:04:31you're not doing them. What are we doing?
- 2:04:33Yeah, you know this is true, Yes.
- 2:04:35And Basil makes me think like even once 1/4 what are we
- 2:04:39talking? Maybe even that's that might be
- 2:04:42a little hard, but at minimum once or twice a year, I want to
- 2:04:45get you back into these spaces where like literally it's a
- 2:04:48round table. We get just different people.
- 2:04:51If they can be boots on the ground or just people on another
- 2:04:54show. It doesn't even matter.
- 2:04:56But I've seen you open up because I listen to you, right?
- 2:04:59So I've seen you opened up in this space, which takes me back
- 2:05:02to the Canary Cry radio days almost where it's like, you
- 2:05:05know, there's certain things that have activated you and I'm
- 2:05:08seeing the side of you that I originally like was in my my
- 2:05:12ears. I even see Aaron's head nodding.
- 2:05:14So it's kind of cool to see that we're covering these chasms and
- 2:05:17don't stop what you're doing. I'm not insinuating that.
- 2:05:20I'm just saying like I love seeing you in this organic space
- 2:05:23where if I get moved by the spirit, I can say something
- 2:05:26super provocative and it like you just unpack it and take us
- 2:05:30there and make it even more beautiful.
- 2:05:31It's like from faith in the faith and the glory and the
- 2:05:34glory, it's like we're going higher and higher, just ripping
- 2:05:37on each other with the complexities and the beauties
- 2:05:40and of all of this man. But as as we wind down and come
- 2:05:43to a close, you know, I kind of would just go across, you know,
- 2:05:46Michael Basham, just close this out real quick, Aaron and then
- 2:05:50Basil take the final and end word.
- 2:05:53It can be encouragement, whatever you feel LED.
- 2:05:55But before I hand it over, thank you guys.
- 2:05:59I just want to honor and thank each one of you.
- 2:06:03Thank you, Lord. Well, I'm Michael Basham Fringe
- 2:06:06radionetwork.com. Get the app, sign up for the
- 2:06:10phone alerts and don't forget to do the same with Canary cry and
- 2:06:14Rod. You got to got to get with us
- 2:06:16and take take advantage of our systems.
- 2:06:19So what Lord's put in put into my lap recently is just the word
- 2:06:23of God in our mouths all the time, all day.
- 2:06:27However you do it, get it in there and you have a choice to
- 2:06:31either have faith or fear and it's a force.
- 2:06:33And if you've got the word of God coming out of your mouth and
- 2:06:36you can declare as Basil was eloquently talking about your
- 2:06:40body, you speak to your body like I met Aaron and I just
- 2:06:44spoke to his body. You're not going to be you're
- 2:06:46not getting radiation poisoning bro, you're you're healed.
- 2:06:50Jesus name speak to that thing and it's not how it looks on the
- 2:06:54outside it. It could be nuclear war,
- 2:06:57whatever, blah, blah, blah. But are you going?
- 2:07:00Are you tuning to the fear or the faith?
- 2:07:01And the way you build up your faith is through this word of
- 2:07:04God. So I'm pledging to take this
- 2:07:07microphone and I'm going into the word.
- 2:07:10I'm blocking out everything else and I love everybody.
- 2:07:15It's just this is, this is what we're what we're about.
- 2:07:17And you know, you can join Eagle Mountain Church and become an E
- 2:07:22member and get that blessing there.
- 2:07:24I think this Internet cowboy thing has been fun.
- 2:07:28Enjoyed it. Got a lot of wounds from that.
- 2:07:30But you need a pastor. Like even if he's in Houston, TX
- 2:07:34or get a pastor. Tithing is awesome.
- 2:07:37Regular fasting. I mean men, we need to lay aside
- 2:07:42the sins, the secret sins, the unconfessed stuff.
- 2:07:44Get with men and work hard and pray and get an intercession
- 2:07:48team and and podcast. And if you don't podcast,
- 2:07:53support a podcast. Get get into the chat and
- 2:07:57because otherwise we're so lonely and we don't know if what
- 2:08:00we're doing is the just kidding, I'm wearing these sunglasses to
- 2:08:04hide my tears. It's a daily strike, but it.
- 2:08:06Is time. This is it.
- 2:08:07This is Jesus is Coming. As my uncle Dick said, who runs
- 2:08:12Derek Prince Ministries. Jesus is coming.
- 2:08:15Wait, everybody look busy and of course that's a joke, but it's
- 2:08:19true. We need to be busy for the Lord
- 2:08:21and and and full of his word and his love and I thank you again
- 2:08:26and if I can be of service to any of you guys anytime that I
- 2:08:31would love to collaborate very soon.
- 2:08:34So my personal website isfaithbooks.com wrote it
- 2:08:36myself. Doesn't look like much but hack
- 2:08:39it. Try and hack me now.
- 2:08:41You can't hack me now with HTML. Doesn't look like I lost all my
- 2:08:45websites and I can see basil. You guys use WordPress?
- 2:08:49How do you still have that? I know, cool.
- 2:08:52It's a whole. Thing Anyway that's enough for
- 2:08:53me. Love you guys.
- 2:08:56Very, very happy to be here. Just Rod, you reading everything
- 2:09:00as far as the bodies go and then Basil you elaborating even more
- 2:09:06so on that. I I have to say this, when you
- 2:09:09do your little basil rants and stuff, I think that they're
- 2:09:12great. This anointing really just kind
- 2:09:13of shines out of you for sure. So I definitely would encourage
- 2:09:17a lot more of that. You guys are absolutely
- 2:09:20incredible. Rod Michael.
- 2:09:22I mean, you guys know how I feel about all you just keep it up,
- 2:09:25man. The body of Christ rising,
- 2:09:28right? You know, I'm yes, Basil was
- 2:09:30sitting there talking and it's just like, you know, you said it
- 2:09:33perfectly too. Then I was just kind of writing
- 2:09:34some stuff down. God gifted our bodies.
- 2:09:39Our bodies are a present. So be present to be a present.
- 2:09:46Be present, you know, So when God leaves you somewhere, show
- 2:09:50up, take that leap of faith, you know, not faith in yourself, but
- 2:09:55faith in the King. You know, sitting there, we do
- 2:10:00all these little references like fellowship of the ring, right?
- 2:10:03Fellowship of the King. Yeah.
- 2:10:05Hallelujah. Love it.
- 2:10:06Yeah. Amen.
- 2:10:07Yeah. Let's go.
- 2:10:08I'm just, I'm thankful for you guys.
- 2:10:10Let's go, let's go. Love you guys.
- 2:10:13Yeah. See you soon, Aaron.
- 2:10:15Absolutely Friday. I'll be there Friday.
- 2:10:17Dude going back outgoing for a second deployment.
- 2:10:21That's very impressive. I'm very impressed with all you
- 2:10:24fellas here. But dude, Aaron in the same way
- 2:10:27I mean, I wasn't joking it. It's in the same way that it
- 2:10:30occurred to so many other men, specifically in this country,
- 2:10:35feeling the calling, wondering if that's what they're supposed
- 2:10:37to do, to go out and be there, be the hands and feet and be
- 2:10:42objective outcome oriented to fight against the satanic
- 2:10:47process oriented sort of bureaucratic tyranny that lets
- 2:10:52people disappear. It lets people fade away.
- 2:10:56It lets people, it lets them die.
- 2:11:01As someone who felt that just like so many other million,
- 2:11:05millions of fellas, it's very inspirational.
- 2:11:08I'm very proud of you. I'm proud to be on this call
- 2:11:11with you. I can't wait to hear what the
- 2:11:15Lord does as you go back and continue to do that.
- 2:11:19So stay in touch. And of course, I know you guys
- 2:11:23will keep me posted on everything, but I just want you
- 2:11:25to be empowered. I want you to feel empowered.
- 2:11:27I want you to feel your body was attacked by the adversary.
- 2:11:32It was your body that was the vector that that the adversary
- 2:11:40used to take you out. And it's because your body was
- 2:11:42making such a difference. Your body was doing what the
- 2:11:45Lord needed done in that area. So in the same way, like Michael
- 2:11:49was saying, I'll be praying over your body, of course, your mind
- 2:11:53and your spirit, but your body, so that you're able to continue
- 2:11:56accomplishing that mission. And I can't wait to hear more.
- 2:12:00And yeah, Rod, Michael, thank you guys so much for giving me
- 2:12:05the opportunity to come on here and and pop off a little bit.
- 2:12:10You know, there's a reason why CCNT is so regimented is because
- 2:12:15if we did not have if we did not have a structure, we would just
- 2:12:22be in big trouble. So it's a cherish the
- 2:12:25opportunity to step outside of that structure and to just.
- 2:12:30Cage. Thank you for letting me think
- 2:12:34outside the cage, guys. I really appreciate that.
- 2:12:37I will definitely take you up on any offer to do that in the
- 2:12:41future because of course, I appreciate the compliments and
- 2:12:47the praise and the recognition from you guys.
- 2:12:49That means a lot. But it also feels good to be
- 2:12:54given the opportunity to let the Lord do something new.
- 2:12:58Let let God do whatever he's going to do with me.
- 2:13:01And like, like everything else we've been talking about in this
- 2:13:06podcast, if you're not putting yourselves, if you're not moving
- 2:13:11your bodies into a position of opportunity, then you're missing
- 2:13:15out on a lot of what God has for you.
- 2:13:17So I consider this a victory for all of us.
- 2:13:22I consider it a victory for me. And I would love to come back
- 2:13:26and, and do it as often as possible.
- 2:13:30Yeah. And to everybody out there, I
- 2:13:32only say all of that. I often get criticism about how
- 2:13:35I love talking about myself so much.
- 2:13:38But in my head, when I talk about myself, it's because I
- 2:13:41want others to identify with me. It's my, it's my desire to, to
- 2:13:49connect. It's my desire to maybe have
- 2:13:51someone out there be like, oh, he feels like I feel or wow,
- 2:13:55that's something that you know, that's, that's, that's me
- 2:13:58reaching out to everybody out there in podcast land.
- 2:14:02And I know because I have faith that somebody out there feels
- 2:14:08the way I do about certain things.
- 2:14:10And to the rest of you who are busy at crafting those tweets
- 2:14:14about how I talk too much, you can send those to at face like
- 2:14:18the Sun on Twitter. Send those straight over there.
- 2:14:23That'll be great. But yeah, I guess, I guess the
- 2:14:26just the do the normal plugs here at the end.
- 2:14:29Of course, my main show is with guns Canary Cry News Talk.
- 2:14:33It is a different but similar show called Canary Cry Radio.
- 2:14:39I know it's confusing. They're two different shows, but
- 2:14:41check them out. And then of course, there's a
- 2:14:43lot of Basil deep cuts when it comes to side projects that I've
- 2:14:48done over the years. The Joyce Piercy theory.
- 2:14:50You can go here, Michael, on the Joyce Piercy theory.
- 2:14:54I've got a show called Ravel, which is definitely some.
- 2:14:58I don't know if anybody wants more of me ranting like this,
- 2:15:02you can go listen to Ravel. There's two Ravels.
- 2:15:06The other one stole our name. We have the evidence, but just
- 2:15:09search Ravel, Basil Rosewater. It's the whole thing.
- 2:15:13But yeah, I I'm humbled and appreciative of you, all three
- 2:15:19of you, but also to the listener and the viewer.
- 2:15:21Because without them, those moments when I feel like, why am
- 2:15:26I doing anything? Is anybody listening?
- 2:15:28Does anybody care? Am I doing what God wants me to
- 2:15:31do? Is God working or doing anything
- 2:15:34through me? If it weren't for the listener
- 2:15:36and the viewer, the answer to all that would be no.
- 2:15:39So I really am so grateful to every single individual out
- 2:15:44there. And yeah, I think that's enough
- 2:15:47ranting from me, so thank you very much.
- 2:15:50What then shall we say to these things?
- 2:15:52If God is for us, who can be against us?
- 2:15:56He who did not spare his own Son, but delivered him up for us
- 2:16:00all, Shall He not also freely give us all things?
- 2:16:07Who shall bring a charge against God's elect?
- 2:16:10It is God who justifies. Who is he who condemns?
- 2:16:15It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen.
- 2:16:21Who even at the right hand of God, who makes intercession for
- 2:16:26us, who shall separate us from the love of Christ, shall
- 2:16:30tribulation or distress or persecution or famine or
- 2:16:36nakedness or peril or sword? That's it.
- 2:16:41That is the show, you guys. I'm asking you to share this one
- 2:16:45far and wide. This is how you participate and
- 2:16:48help you share these shows because that's just the right
- 2:16:51thing to do. Coming to you from Southeastern
- 2:16:53Pennsylvania. God bless and goodbye.
- 2:17:18Holding on to hope when the waters get away.
- 2:17:33Happily, Sir, you are hell in the arts are the same the wood
- 2:17:56all your teeth high like a river to his heart, 'cause I.
- 2:18:15You are light blesses the wind and the old fitting child.
- 2:18:41Holding on to all them they ever know.
- 2:18:56Happily say you are hell in the arms, that savior of the world.
- 2:19:15All your tears are like a river to his high is how the laser you
- 2:19:37are. Blessed is the one who hears in
- 2:19:55this sense, holding on to Jesus when nothing makes sense.
- 2:20:21You are hell in the eyes. How the Savior, the world, all
- 2:20:37your tears are like a river to his heart.
- 2:20:55You are.