Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Elevating Innovation as a Core Mission at The University of Texas Medical Branch with Dr. Vineet Gupta
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- 0:02This is where health care leadership comes together.
- 0:04Becker's sixteenth annual meeting brings more than 3,500
- 0:07hospital and health system executives and nearly 800
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- 0:12April.
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- 0:26upper right. We're looking forward to hosting you
- 0:29in Chicago.
- 0:31This is Laura Dirda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:34podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:36doctor Vineet Gupta, vice president in the office
- 0:38of innovation and commercialization and chief executive officer
- 0:42of the medical branch innovations, part of the
- 0:44University of Texas medical branch. Doctor Gupta, it's
- 0:46a pleasure to have you on the podcast
- 0:48today.
- 0:49Sure. Thank you. Thank you for hosting me.
- 0:51I'm super excited to be here.
- 0:53Absolutely. And, you know, we're excited to have
- 0:54you as well. I think there's so many
- 0:56innovative things happening at, University of Texas Medical
- 1:00Branch, and and certainly it'll be fun to
- 1:02spotlight a few of those things as well
- 1:03as get your perspective on the future. But
- 1:05before we dive in, can you talk a
- 1:07little bit more about yourself and Medical Branch
- 1:09Innovations?
- 1:10Perfect. Great. Again, Laura, thank you for having
- 1:12me here.
- 1:13You know, just a little bit about UTMB
- 1:15first. You know, as as most people may
- 1:17or may not know, we are one of
- 1:19the largest and the oldest medical systems in
- 1:21Texas,
- 1:22over a 130 years old. We have four
- 1:25main campuses, over a 100 clinics across Texas,
- 1:28and we have a very large economic impact
- 1:30in our region,
- 1:31at least over three and a half billion
- 1:33dollars.
- 1:35We we have 16,000
- 1:36employees. So, you know, I give you that
- 1:38background to just, you know, showcase how large
- 1:41of an enterprise we have.
- 1:44And, you know, with that, you know, it's
- 1:45such a privilege for me for,
- 1:48in the last two and a half years
- 1:49to be leading the innovation enterprise.
- 1:52My background is a PhD in chemistry.
- 1:55I I run a drug discovery lab. We
- 1:57work on
- 1:59kidney disease. We work on,
- 2:01cancer area.
- 2:02I have done startups in my life in
- 2:04the past. You know, I have,
- 2:06more partnerships with pharma, fundraise, and, you know,
- 2:09done a little bit of innovation workflow.
- 2:12And because of that, doctor Reiser, when he
- 2:15joined UTMB about three years ago,
- 2:18he asked me to come in and and
- 2:20start lead this innovation enterprise.
- 2:23Well, that's amazing to hear. And, you know,
- 2:25truly,
- 2:26incredible to think of the impact that University
- 2:28of Texas Medical Branch has on the state
- 2:31and then thinking through, you know, the the
- 2:33work that you've done in your background in,
- 2:35innovation
- 2:36in medicine and then bringing that into your
- 2:38current role. So, you know, could you tell
- 2:40me a little bit about, some of the
- 2:42most important initiatives that you've led in the
- 2:44last year or two? What did you do,
- 2:45and what were the results?
- 2:48Great question.
- 2:50I'm gonna again
- 2:51step back a little bit. And when doctor
- 2:54Reiser started as president at UTMB,
- 2:56he really,
- 2:58elevated innovation as our fourth pillar. One of
- 3:01the first universities
- 3:02where innovation was,
- 3:05brought up as a very key mission area,
- 3:08equal in importance as clinical care,
- 3:11research, and education that happens across many other
- 3:14health systems.
- 3:15And that really,
- 3:18brought to everybody's attention on our campus, you
- 3:21know, the importance of always
- 3:24keeping innovation in mind in their day to
- 3:26day lives, day to day activities.
- 3:28And that really helps drive,
- 3:31mostly
- 3:32translation
- 3:33of whatever they are doing into clinical practice
- 3:36or clinical outcomes.
- 3:38So, you know, so, you know, with that,
- 3:41we set up, over the last, I would
- 3:43say, year and a half, three key initiatives.
- 3:47Number one, really driving a culture change on
- 3:49campus so that people now really start thinking
- 3:52about innovation
- 3:53again, you know, in their day to day
- 3:55dives.
- 3:56We have started holding, you know, open houses
- 4:00monthly. We we have started going to departments
- 4:03to talk to people directly.
- 4:05And and,
- 4:06more importantly, we've also started increasing public private
- 4:09partnerships,
- 4:10which are so important to drive change.
- 4:12So that's first, so driving a culture change.
- 4:15Second,
- 4:16initiative that we started,
- 4:18incorporating
- 4:19is identifying new opportunities for growth for our
- 4:21institution.
- 4:23So we identified four,
- 4:25sort of, you know,
- 4:26teams,
- 4:27flagship strengths, so to speak. The first one
- 4:30is brain health, and we are starting to
- 4:32build on that. Second is healthy aging. Third
- 4:36is, kidney health.
- 4:38And the
- 4:39fourth, which you probably won't be surprised to
- 4:41hear about, is really,
- 4:43incorporating,
- 4:44adopting, scaling health system
- 4:46AI solutions
- 4:48to really,
- 4:49increase,
- 4:50and improve patient care across our health system
- 4:53while responsibly driving down the cost.
- 4:57So that's number three.
- 4:59And then the last piece sorry. That was
- 5:01number two. And then the last initiative we
- 5:03have, we started a lot of entrepreneurship
- 5:06programming on campus,
- 5:08especially directed at students. So I'm gonna pause
- 5:10there for a second and help let you
- 5:12ask.
- 5:14Yeah. I I I think that's fantastic. And
- 5:16thank you for outlining those three pillars for
- 5:18us because, you know, in looking at innovation,
- 5:20it can mean a good many things and
- 5:22isn't always something,
- 5:24concrete or built into the strategy. So it's
- 5:26fascinating to hear that, you know, that's really
- 5:28been elevated,
- 5:29for the organization and something that you're trying
- 5:31to build into the exact culture to make
- 5:34sure that everyone,
- 5:36within the the enterprise is thinking about it
- 5:38in,
- 5:39continuing to live off that journey. Now I'm
- 5:42curious. When you talk about identifying new opportunities
- 5:45for growth and and thinking through that that
- 5:49kind of balance between being innovative
- 5:51as well as being mindful of,
- 5:53you know, the the
- 5:56financial,
- 5:57component of it and making sure you're you're
- 6:00focusing on the right things, the right, types
- 6:02of issues that you're solutioning for. How do
- 6:05you keep everybody in the same,
- 6:07kind of wheelhouse there and and make sure
- 6:09you've got something, you know, open enough where
- 6:12people can be,
- 6:13creative and innovative, but but not lose control
- 6:17to the point where,
- 6:18you know, you're having lots of random projects
- 6:21that aren't really going back to that mission
- 6:23or,
- 6:24you know, is not financially,
- 6:26viable for the organization?
- 6:29Like, you know, that's a very good question.
- 6:31And that's something, you know, I think almost
- 6:33every institution struggles
- 6:35with. And,
- 6:36I think, you know, one way to think
- 6:38about it is, you know,
- 6:40for us,
- 6:42we UTMB has been known for a long
- 6:45time,
- 6:46for providing excellent clinical care in one run
- 6:49and in the research and education enterprise,
- 6:52being a leader in making new types of
- 6:54vaccines and studying all kinds of infectious diseases,
- 6:58that emerge over time.
- 7:01So when we started looking at opportunities for
- 7:04growth for us, we said, okay. Those are
- 7:06great sort of strengths to have to build
- 7:08on.
- 7:09What other programs do we already have so
- 7:12that it doesn't add a new cost burden
- 7:14like you mentioned,
- 7:15yet, elevate something that is already ongoing?
- 7:19And in that realm, you know, the clinical
- 7:21care piece, that's where we looked at health
- 7:24AI solutions
- 7:25and looked at so many of these, you
- 7:27know, solutions that are coming out.
- 7:29Every day somebody comes out with a new
- 7:31AI,
- 7:33based,
- 7:34program
- 7:35app or or solution that says, hey. It
- 7:37can it can really be impactful in people's
- 7:39lives.
- 7:41But the biggest challenge is
- 7:43one has not really taken that,
- 7:46in terms of implementation across a health system
- 7:49to see if it is holds true.
- 7:51So just as an example of how one
- 7:54could balance cost benefit of these types of
- 7:57things, we started programming,
- 7:59and partnering with some of the companies very
- 8:02early
- 8:03where we we identified a core need we
- 8:06had.
- 8:07Let's give an example, you know, website or
- 8:09management, for example. You know, core need we
- 8:12have as a system and what solutions are
- 8:14out there and which one of them potentially,
- 8:17could make an impact for us. So we
- 8:19we partner with some of these companies early,
- 8:22help their
- 8:23AI sort of scale
- 8:26much faster internally with us where we would
- 8:28co develop with them. And then the solution
- 8:31that comes out not only drives helps drive,
- 8:34our efficiency forward, but could also be a
- 8:37role model for other places,
- 8:39if that makes sense.
- 8:42Absolutely. That makes a lot of sense. And,
- 8:44I I appreciate you going into that
- 8:47that a little bit more deeply because having
- 8:47that kind of mindset and then being able
- 8:49to really see how those decisions you're making
- 8:52in in the little things as well as
- 8:54the larger innovations are impacting patients' lives,
- 8:58you know, whether it's on the clinical side
- 8:59or on the,
- 9:01more operational side, revenue cycle, finance. You know,
- 9:05it it all makes a big difference.
- 9:07And so I I think that's really cool.
- 9:08And to have that ability to co develop
- 9:10as well, I can imagine is pretty unique
- 9:13and exciting for many folks. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
- 9:15Super exciting. And then that also then helps,
- 9:18you know, get people
- 9:19also,
- 9:20ramped up. Right? I mean, because they're seeing
- 9:22cool new tools, cool new opportunities,
- 9:25and and,
- 9:27ability to in get involved and and drive
- 9:29that forward.
- 9:30And and so that's in the AI realm.
- 9:32You know, I'll give you another example. You
- 9:33know, we we've started a program on brain
- 9:36health.
- 9:37We were fortunate to get,
- 9:39a a large philanthropic donation last year that
- 9:42led to establishment
- 9:43of a Moody Brain Health Institute from the
- 9:46Moody Foundation,
- 9:47and that helped catalyze,
- 9:50a lot of folks who were doing research
- 9:52in that realm into coming together
- 9:54with a unified mission.
- 9:56And that unified mission is to really make
- 9:58an impact across various areas of brain health.
- 10:01So we have a lot of research going
- 10:02on in Alzheimer's, for example, some labs developing
- 10:05new antibodies to treat Alzheimer's, some labs developing
- 10:08new diagnostic tests to identify patients faster or
- 10:12identify people who who would
- 10:14potentially be resistant to the disease and thereby
- 10:18really establishing a new way to,
- 10:20stratify
- 10:21and personalize treatments in the brain health realm.
- 10:23So know, I give you that example also
- 10:25as, you know, an area we identified that
- 10:28people were already on campus and coalesce that
- 10:31idea around a a new initiative, a new
- 10:33institute so that we can really be more
- 10:35impactful.
- 10:37I love that. I think that's such a
- 10:39strong example of the way that you can
- 10:41really bring folks together and then, tackle a
- 10:44big problem that's also so, so important for
- 10:47the community and integrate resource as well. Now
- 10:50looking ahead for 2026,
- 10:51what are some of the big priorities and
- 10:53headwinds that you're focused on?
- 10:55Yeah. Great question.
- 10:57There is so much so much cool stuff
- 11:00happening on campus.
- 11:01And for us, I think,
- 11:04one area really, one way to think about
- 11:06it is just to continue building on these
- 11:08new areas of strength,
- 11:10that we have established. So, again,
- 11:13for us for this year, we are gonna
- 11:15continue focus on building Brain Health Institute and
- 11:19programming around it.
- 11:21We're gonna continue building on kidney health and
- 11:23healthy aging as well as really, really scale
- 11:27more,
- 11:28these, implementation of new health care AI solutions,
- 11:31again, with the goal being, you know, impacting
- 11:33patients' lives positively while driving health care costs
- 11:37down.
- 11:38That makes a lot of sense. And,
- 11:41yeah, I think, you know, when you look
- 11:42at the brain health, the kidney health, and
- 11:44healthy aging, you know, the
- 11:47no secret everybody in health care is talking
- 11:49about the fact that, you know, in in
- 11:50most communities, they're seeing,
- 11:52you know, that aging population
- 11:55boom and trying to figure out how they're
- 11:57going to, provide the right type of services
- 11:59and the right level of services while at
- 12:01the same time,
- 12:02you know, struggling with whether
- 12:04it's staffing shortages or or resource,
- 12:07narrowing. And so, you know, when you look
- 12:09at the,
- 12:10kind of those demographic shifts in in what,
- 12:13the aging population needs,
- 12:15How are you seeing that type of care
- 12:17in the model, you know, of what you're
- 12:19doing at University of Texas Medical Branch,
- 12:22change as well in in you know, how
- 12:24do you do that as an organizational
- 12:26level?
- 12:27Also a very good question.
- 12:30I think,
- 12:31it all starts with bringing,
- 12:34people with diverse viewpoints together.
- 12:37And,
- 12:38I you know, another example from our end,
- 12:40you know, in doing something like this is,
- 12:45we announced yesterday partnership with Blue Zones
- 12:48to be able to create
- 12:50a,
- 12:52a a community based healthy living model
- 12:56that could be,
- 12:58utilized
- 12:59at other places where, you know, public private
- 13:02partnerships
- 13:03with community engagement
- 13:05and a health system
- 13:07sort of, you know, partnership there where the
- 13:09physicians are also also involved in designing
- 13:12new healthy programs,
- 13:14could be a way to,
- 13:16change
- 13:17how we all live and and age age
- 13:19in a more in a positive way.
- 13:23So Blue Zones is one example. And, again,
- 13:25you know, we are trying to,
- 13:27incorporate as many players as possible,
- 13:30while designing these solutions.
- 13:33Absolutely. It makes a lot of sense. And
- 13:36you think about those partnerships like Blue Zone
- 13:38and and I'm sure other community partnerships that
- 13:40you have,
- 13:42how do you make the decisions on who
- 13:44is the right people to partner with,
- 13:47you know, looking at the value of each
- 13:49different,
- 13:50interaction. I think now more than ever, it
- 13:52seems like health care is a team sport.
- 13:53And so how do you look at those
- 13:54things and make sure that those relationships are
- 13:57actually working the way you need them to?
- 14:00Yeah.
- 14:01I think that's also,
- 14:03something,
- 14:05for success of these programs,
- 14:08that partnership and choosing the right partner is
- 14:10very important.
- 14:11Usually, most of these things take a long,
- 14:14sort of, you know, incubation period.
- 14:16What we have done at UTMB is,
- 14:19we've taken that incubation period of,
- 14:22investigate. So identifying what we want to solve,
- 14:25investigating potential solutions,
- 14:27and then figuring out who among those is
- 14:30our partner.
- 14:32That that time scale we have compressed
- 14:34by creating,
- 14:36small teams of folks with various backgrounds who
- 14:40come to evaluate these opportunities.
- 14:44And these leadership teams, you know, from across
- 14:47different
- 14:47different,
- 14:48backgrounds. So, you know, it could be from
- 14:50operations, could be from finance, could be from,
- 14:53research, could be from innovation,
- 14:55could be from purchasing. You know, All those
- 14:57folks come together in one room, and we
- 15:00evaluate things very, very,
- 15:03efficiently that way,
- 15:05if that makes sense.
- 15:06Absolutely. That makes a ton of sense. And,
- 15:08you know, it seems like a a really
- 15:10smart way to tackle everything that I'm sure
- 15:12is coming, in in all directions and and
- 15:15opportunities that come your way. Now what do
- 15:17you think is the hardest thing you'll have
- 15:18to do in the coming year will be?
- 15:2241?
- 15:23Oh,
- 15:24okay. We have we have, we have a,
- 15:27you know, in in technology commercialization,
- 15:30technology,
- 15:32translation,
- 15:34as you know, is not a linear
- 15:36path for anything.
- 15:38So,
- 15:39we are really excited
- 15:42about,
- 15:43taking some of our new discoveries from the
- 15:45folks at UTMB
- 15:47and trying to part find partners for them
- 15:49or converting them into startups.
- 15:52And in that setting, while a lot of
- 15:55these technologies
- 15:56are super exciting,
- 15:58for example, I mentioned, you know, there's a
- 16:00new antibody for Alzheimer's disease. We're also developing
- 16:03a new test for stratifying kidney patients better,
- 16:07novel kidney diagnostic tests as an example. So,
- 16:10you know, these kinds of technologies,
- 16:12we are starting to engage with VCs. We
- 16:15are starting to engage with pharma partners. We're
- 16:17starting to engage with a lot of other
- 16:19types of associations.
- 16:22I I I anticipate
- 16:24that each one of them will bring its
- 16:26own challenges
- 16:28that will require us to think outside the
- 16:30box a little bit. So
- 16:32I I foresee, you know, those those commercialization
- 16:35challenges being being perhaps the harder ones, immediately.
- 16:40That makes a ton of sense. And, you
- 16:42know, I can only imagine how much,
- 16:45effort it takes in order to bring some
- 16:47of these, you know, parts and ideas in
- 16:49in,
- 16:50you know, things that you're doing into that
- 16:52commercialization process and translating it into something that
- 16:55then, you know, is usable and valuable across
- 16:58the board.
- 16:59And when you look at that commercialization process,
- 17:01I mean, how has it evolved over the
- 17:04last couple of years? Where are you seeing
- 17:06some of new, you know, potential roadblocks or
- 17:09or areas that,
- 17:10you know, have evolved, that are becoming easier
- 17:13or harder?
- 17:15Yeah. Also a good question.
- 17:17I think, I think times have certainly changed
- 17:21in the last few years,
- 17:22for the better for us, especially.
- 17:26Up up until a few years ago, if
- 17:28one wanted to commercialize a a technology or
- 17:30convert it into a start up or even
- 17:32do partnerships with with large companies, one had
- 17:35to go to the coast, you know, either
- 17:37to the West Coast or the East Coast.
- 17:38That's where most of the funders are. That's
- 17:40where most of the people who do this
- 17:41stuff reside, and that's where a lot of
- 17:44new technologies come out of. So they were
- 17:46really not as much paying attention to what's
- 17:49going on in Houston, Texas or Galveston, Texas.
- 17:53I think those times have changed because, a,
- 17:55because people are looking
- 17:57more broadly,
- 17:58and, b, because I think we,
- 18:00have, some very unique solutions that we've created,
- 18:04especially at UTMB, for example. You know, the
- 18:06solutions in, brain health and kidney health that
- 18:09we are developing, those are, state of the
- 18:11art,
- 18:12new solutions. So now what we are seeing
- 18:15is we are able to attract
- 18:17a lot of these new funders directly to
- 18:19us versus having to really only go to
- 18:22the coast to be able to talk to
- 18:23them. And I think that's a big change
- 18:26good change for us.
- 18:28That's amazing to hear and and definitely something
- 18:30that,
- 18:31you know, is exciting to have that opportunity
- 18:33in addition
- 18:35new areas and especially in Texas.
- 18:37Now before we wrap up, where do you
- 18:39see some of the best opportunities for organizational
- 18:41growth?
- 18:42I think we have many, many opportunities for
- 18:46for our our growth areas.
- 18:48Definitely, you know, we are going to see
- 18:51clinical growth, but clinical growth happening differently than
- 18:55it has happened in the past because of
- 18:56so many of these new AI tools,
- 18:59coming into play.
- 19:00So,
- 19:01that is one for sure. I think,
- 19:06this this
- 19:07interface of AI with
- 19:10research, with education, and with, clinic,
- 19:14all three,
- 19:15it's just so much cool stuff that's coming
- 19:19out that I mean, every day, you know,
- 19:20you see something new. And and, I I
- 19:24I already see that it can be how
- 19:25it can be implemented on campus. So,
- 19:28I honestly,
- 19:29AI based sort of solutions, research solutions,
- 19:33health care solutions, those were that's where I
- 19:34think a lot of growth is happening.
- 19:38I love it. Doctor Gupta, thank you so
- 19:40much for joining us on the podcast today.
- 19:41This has been such a fun conversation. I
- 19:43have learned so much, and I look forward
- 19:45to seeing you as well in April at
- 19:47our annual meeting. I know you'll be speaking
- 19:48on a panel, and it'll be great to
- 19:50catch up there and continue
- 19:51to dig deeper into some of the themes
- 19:53you talked about today. So I'm looking forward
- 19:54to seeing you. Thank you, Laura. Super exciting.
- 19:57I'm super excited about that too, and thank
- 19:59you again for inviting me today.