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CyHawk Players Props, The Voice of the Hawkeyes Gary Dolphin & The Voice of the Cyclones John Walters · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  I welcome Miller and Condon as the Iowa Sports Radio Network
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  kicks back up for the next 6 hours of Iowa based program.
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  We certainly appreciate you starting the afternoon here with
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  Trent Condon and myself, Ken Miller as we will talk sports
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  with you and do so until 2:00. At that time off the bench on
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  Roberts, Lucas Strain until 5, overtime Iowa 5 until 6.
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  Here's what's coming up on our program in the next couple of
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  hours. We're going to have both of the
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  voices, radio voices, join us in our number one.
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  We'll start things off with Gary Dolphin.
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  He'll be here 25 minutes after the hour.
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  We'll talk to Dolph about the Hawkeyes, what he saw in week #1
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  some of his memories of this series.
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  Gary Dolphin, the voice of the Hawks coming up here at 12:25.
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  And then John Walters, he'll join us about 12:45.
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  Get the Cyclone perspective on things from John Walters. 12:45
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  At that time, we'll switch to our number 2 and switched out of
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  Cyhawk programming and head into the cap man.
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  Off we go to Chicago. He's presented each and every
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  week by Centurion Stone of Iowa, David Kaplan talking Chicago
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  sports. Obviously, the Bears, the Cubs
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  had a nice win last night as they take their second straight
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  over the Braves. Game three of that series goes
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  tonight. So the cap ban on Chicago sports
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  coming up at 1:00, centuring stone of Iowa sponsors.
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  And then Frank Schwab, who covers the NFL for
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  yahoosports.com. He'll join us at 1:30 as we inch
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  our way to week number one of the National Football League
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  week. Game one tomorrow night, Eagles
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  and the Cowboys, that numbers opened at 7, went to 7 1/2.
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  You said it got to 9 at one point.
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  Yesterday, yeah, drop back down to 8, a flat 8 but yeah, 9 was
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  the high watermark, according to a gal bill over at V sin Sign up
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  for the newsletter if you're a gambler, I.
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  Don't know why I don't. I I don't either.
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  Well, I do know why I don't know.
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  I seldom open my e-mail. That's the problem.
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  You are an odd duck. You do not have your e-mail on
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  your phone. No, and you will check it not at
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  work. Nope.
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  Well, not this work, right? You'll do it at the Home Office
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  once a day. No two or three days unless I
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  know something's coming. Anyways, that's that's our
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  program We look forward to. We're glad you're with us here
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  until 2O clock. You've got some interesting
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  little Nuggets we'll get to because we can't bet player
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  props and I'm glad we can. I say it every year I don't I
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  think we, we can bet on enough. There's enough on the menu.
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  If you really have to make a bet, you're going to find a way
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  to do so. But one of the things you can't
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  find a way to do so legally is bet on player props when it
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  comes to college sports athletes.
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  And I hope that stays the way in place here because it's bad
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  enough for these poor kids and some of the A holes out there
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  that, you know, lose their $10 bet.
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  And it's because of you didn't handicap it wrong.
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  The whatever something went wrong in the game that you
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  didn't think would happen. It's sports after all.
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  Things are going to go wrong. But I'm glad we can't bet.
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  So we'll get into that. Did you watch Hard Knocks at all
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  last night? The finale of the series?
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  Nope, I watched the episode 2 episodes ago with the.
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  Bears did you and. That was it.
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  I watched the finale last night just 'cause I wanted to just I
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  I'm not gonna go back and watch 2-3 and four.
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  I watched the cut down day last night and just the Bills and
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  because that series used to mean so much to to me.
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  But how the mighty have fallen, right?
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  Because it was it was a behemoth when it first came out.
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  It was appointment TV. Not so much anymore.
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  There's just so darn many of them real quick from baseball
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  last night, a nice win for the Cubs.
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  Had to have it as they, you know, try, I guess, to stay
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  within shouting distance of the Brewers.
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  I don't think it's going to happen.
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  But you know, they won last night and we'll we'll see where
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  it goes. They will send tonight Kate
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  Horton, who is one of the stories of the year when it
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  comes to the Cubs to the bump and we'll talk to Kathy about
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  that. All right, let's get into Cy
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  Hawk and some of these now for those of you listening on one of
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  our affiliates over in eastern Iowa that bleeds into Illinois
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  across the river. Which one would that be?
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  The Quad Cities? That would be Quad Cities.
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  Yep, and that's an AM It is correct.
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  Yep. So if you're listening to us
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  there, you may have an apps sports betting app over in the
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  state of Illinois. Again, we here in Iowa can't.
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  But for yucks and giggles, I always like to try and guess as
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  to where some of these numbers may fall when it comes to, you
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  know, passing yards, I'm guessing rushing.
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  How many do you have of these? As many as you want.
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  Yes, we have any time. Touchdown score, first touchdown
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  score, passing yards, rushing yards, receiving yards,
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  alternate totals. How about a little defense team
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  totals? We got it all here so we can
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  break it down. And more than anything, this
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  isn't because I mean, a majority of our audit, more than a
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  majority of our audience is in the state of Iowa.
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  But I think it's a good jumping off point of just seeing at
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  least we're the odds makers see these numbers and if it marries
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  with what we think we're going to see on Saturday.
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  So it's a fun way to look at it instead of me just guessing what
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  it is. Sure, these are actionable props
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  that are out there, just not in the state of Iowa.
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  Yeah, it's going to be I, I keep going back and forth on this
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  game, Trent, you know, years that Iowa State doesn't have a
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  chance, they win, you know, and likewise, Iowa, you think that
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  this is the Iowa State's year and the Hawks pull it off.
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  Last year, last year, last year, Iowa State finds a way to win
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  the football game. 21 three against North Dakota in week
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  one, they didn't look very good. They didn't I would dominated
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  the second-half against Illinois State.
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  Oh, they're throwing the football.
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  Look at Reese Van der Zee. They got it all.
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  They're in Kinnock. They're not going to lose 2 in a
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  row. No, no.
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  No, no, no. And the narratives died.
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  And they did and out the window. So we'll see where this one
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  goes. It's a total coin flip.
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  I understand why the number is what it is.
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  All right, So I want to start with the quarterbacks because
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  that one, this one really intrigues me, both of them,
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  because I think Rocco Beck's number is going to be, you know,
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  obviously north of 200 at some point.
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  But Mark Gronowski's the one to me that that I'm fascinated
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  'cause he threw for, as we recall, 44 yards against Albany
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  in week #1. That is going to live in infamy
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  one way or the other. It's going to.
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  It's either going to be this was the start of another terrible
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  quarterback play for Iowa or an anomaly.
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  So did you, because we were on the air when the stories broke,
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  so we weren't able to like, you know, absorb them, if you will.
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  His press conference. Yeah.
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  Anything from his press conference that leads you to
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  believe that it was the jitters. Again, you're 50 years senior,
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  you've played in championship games.
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  How can you have the jitters? It's not like Michigan or Ohio
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  State or Penn State was on the other sideline.
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  It was freaking Albany. But it was.
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  A dream of his to play in the Big 10.
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  It was a dream of his to to be an Iowa Hawkeye and they brought
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  him in. Wasn't a dream to play throw for
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  44 yards. It wasn't, but there are certain
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  people wired this way. I'm sure you played hockey with
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  guys like this, guys that they just got too charged up and then
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  you have to find a way to be able to.
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  Drew Tate was the same way. In fact, that story came out his
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  first career start. A lot of the same things.
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  I believe he had cramping in that game.
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  Like we said, it wasn't overly hot day in Iowa City either.
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  Normally it's 90° and it's a preseason.
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  That's when you see cramping. Did we see anybody else cramp
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  up? It was a he just might be a guy
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  that gets too charged up. I think it's concerning, but at
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  least there's reasoning behind it.
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  OK, you know what? And, and part of it, too, part
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  of the reasoning is because of the bad taste that the Hawkeye
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  fans have in their mouth because a lot of them ponied up for Kate
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  McNamara. Absolutely right.
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  And here we go again. And he said I wasn't going to do
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  it. And damn it, I wrote that check
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  and I'm all in. Am I leaving my Hawks?
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  I bleed black and gold and this is what I get 44 yards?
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  OK, enough about him. Let's move on.
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  Let's get to the the to his his passing prop.
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  I would. I'm going to a complete flyer
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  135. Yards, you are almost right on.
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  136 1/2 is the number currently at FanDuel. 136 1/2 is the
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  number. Little juice on the over -114
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  but basically that is the #136 1/2.
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  Gun to your head right now. You got to bet it.
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  Well, he's going to have time to throw the football because
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  everybody has time to throw the football against Iowa State.
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  And that's not his criticism. That's how they play defense.
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  I love their linebackers. I like their secondary based on
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  what I saw last week under. Under.
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  What would you do? Under have to see it, have to
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  prove it. 136 1/2 in the year 2025.
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  If he does go under that number, do they win the football game?
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  They still can. Because of what the we, we're
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  going to get to the rushing. Folks, they've done it too many
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  times to say that they. Can't.
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  All right, let's get to Rocco Beck's number because this was
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  clearly north of 200. And I think that Iowa State is
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  going to do some damage through the air.
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  I don't think they're going to be able to run the football.
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  I think it's it's, it's the tight ends, it's the receivers.
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  If I was setting the number on Rocco Beck, I would go 242.
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  You're very close again, 236 1/2 is the number currently at
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  FanDuel Caesar's has at the same place prize picks as one of
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  those that you can do over under numbers.
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  Those are the three that I see currently in the market.
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  DraftKings also has these and yes, 236 1/2 is the number
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  passing yards. He had 276 last year, of course,
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  aided by a 75 yard touchdown by Jay Leno.
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  But I would go over. You would.
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  I would questions in the middle of the defense with the middle
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  linebacker spot. You have safety plays.
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  Xavier Wampa do. You look great.
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  Hasn't look great his whole career.
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  Lumber was running around. Lutber was.
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  Okay. I thought TJ Hall got targeted
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  like three straight times. Sean Lee was the best cornerback
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  that they had on the field. And then you don't know after
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  that. Yeah, I'm over 230. 6 an hour.
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  I think if Iowa State is going to win the game, they need to be
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  over. Conversely, you didn't think it
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  was the same way with Gronowski. All right, so here's what
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  fascinates me because I have no idea who they're going to do.
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  They name the position total rushing yards or do they break
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  it down by player? These are by player and I just
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  have three people listed here. In total, or just three Hawks?
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  In total. Yes, so they only put up 1 hawk.
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  Yes. And obviously, it's got to be
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  Washington. Washing I found a new one here
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  so the one that I have here just had Gronowski because of the
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  questions I'm. Sure, a quarterback.
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  DraftKings does have one for Terrell Washington Junior, so he
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  is the only running back that I see listed.
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  And it's impossible to bet because you know how the car the
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  carries are going to break down. Right.
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  Is it going to be his Xavier Williams game?
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  Is it going to be jazzy on Patterson who had a great
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  performance few years ago including that?
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  And when he finally got his opportunity, Lady against
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  Albany. Yes, a worn down.
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  Albany, a worn down Albany. He looked good.
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  He did. I couldn't bet this money with
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  your. I couldn't make this bet with
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  your money. 60 is denouncible for Terrell Washington.
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  What's? Gronowski.
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  Gronowski is 29. Might go over.
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  I think he's going to. I think he's going to have some
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  broken plays. But remember, in college, sacks
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  are a part of it. That's.
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  True. All right, let's do Iowa State.
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  This is equally as intriguing to me because I don't know how
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  those carries are going to break out.
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  And the only guy listed is Carson Hansen.
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  See, I think they're missing. I think Sam is going to lead the
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  team in rushing. Carson Hansen 52 1/2.
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  They don't even list Rocco back. I'll Rocco's also in there, yes,
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  but for running backs, it's just Carson Hansen 52 1/2 the number,
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  Rocco 16 1/2. Remembering that sacks are in
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  there, how many times I would get to?
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  This week they've done they've done a pretty good job of
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  keeping them clean so far. Oh, boy.
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  All right, let's go to let's go to receiving yards.
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  All right. And I do they list Gabe Berkel.
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  Yes, Gabe Berkel is listed in here.
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  Brahmer Eskelsen. And is that it?
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  Those are the three and then two guys for Iowa that I see listed
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  here. And Phillips, is he one of them?
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  Ah, da, da, da. Go back to that page.
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  No. What?
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  Seth Anderson and Jacob Gill are the two Hawkeyes, All right,
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  Bramer, Berkel and Eskelton, the 3-4 Iowa State.
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  So who's got the highest total of those three?
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  It's you, Eskelson. Eskelson is the top 37, 1/2 the
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  number for him. OK.
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  And everybody's Berkel and Bramer both below that.
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  Berkel's 33 1/2, Bramer's just 22 1/2.
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  So where are these 236 yards going to come from?
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  Yeah. Everybody else.
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  Maybe it's a little Townsend sprinkled in there.
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  How about so a? Lot of guys, yeah.
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  When, when are we going to hear from him?
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  I think it's coming. You think it's coming.
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  Think it's coming. Banged up during camp.
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  I think he's going to be there. Maybe they unleash him a little
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  bit more. Yeah, on Saturday.
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  Is there a field goal? Kicking prop?
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  Longest field goal. Let's see here I'm scrolling
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  through, nothing listed. Come on, that's a good one.
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  They just can't be choosers. Well, we can't be here, but I'd
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  love to know because both got both kickers in this game
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  obviously have proven they've got it.
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  They've got some distance behind them.
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  Any time touchdown score, that's a fun market.
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  All right. Your betting favorite is Carson
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  Hanson. Yeah, that's him.
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  That's him. I could see that he's going to
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  get the ball inside the 4-5 yard line.
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  Who's is there a big, big price out there for AI?
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  Don't know a Wegen. Is there a Flora is there?
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  I mean, some of these, some of these special teams guys to take
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  one of the house, both of them are going to score, are going to
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  take one of the house this year. Not saying it's going to happen
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  on Saturday. You can get anytime touchdown
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  score. Well, how about Caden Wechen
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  plus 650? That's it.
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  That's all you want. You can also remember he caught
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  a touchdown. He also plays wide receiver.
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  He does jet sweeps. Yeah, No, no, I need more than
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  that. What about?
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  What about flora? Flora not listed for the anytime
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  touchdown market. All right, who are who's listed?
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  Terrell Washington's the first choice for Iowa.
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  He's plus 140 Rocco on a sneak plus 220 Berkel plus 230
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  Granowski plus 240I like that one.
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  He runs the ball and I think they're going to use him in goal
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  line situations +2. 40 Who's putting these prices out there?
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  I think that I think they're changing you first touchdown
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  score. Yes, that's a fun market.
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  So if it's Iowa State, it's a tight end.
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  Well, if you want a tight end, you can get a good price.
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  How about 15 to one for both Burkle?
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  And Bramer, that's where I'd be shopping.
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  Conversely, when it comes to Iowa, I think they're going to
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  run it in. Washington and Gronowski with
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  the same number, plus 850. Sam Phillips get any love in
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  this exercise? Sam Phillips, first touchdown of
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  the game. He is not listed in that one.
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  Jacob Gill, 18 to 1. Seth Anderson, 20 to 1.
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  They're sold at 22 to one for the first touchdown of the game.
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  Let's see, how about a little Zach Wortworth for you?
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  35 to 1, 2nd and goal from the 2.
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  Little play action or or. See.
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  Not that. This one that you're referring
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  to right now, this was not a prop that would bother me if it
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  was available in the state of Iowa.
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  The first touchdown, first touchdown or just touchdown
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  markets in general? That doesn't bother me because
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  if if you lose your bet there, you can't, you know, attack a
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  player because the quarterback didn't look your way or or you
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  were on the sidelines when you know that you were taken out and
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  here comes Carson Hansen to run the ball in if you bet some on
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  this thing. So that one doesn't bother me,
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  but it's the individual ones that.
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  The yardage, yeah. That type of thing.
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  Because that just leads to a holes.
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  Yeah, it does. And it's, it's unfortunate, but
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  that's the world. And it can lead to chicanery,
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  too. You know, it can real, real
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  quick. Do we?
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  We're going to talk some NFL and we haven't really got into this.
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  Maybe we should do more tomorrow.
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  Have you locked in your survivors ever pick for week #1
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  yet? I haven't locked it in, I
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  haven't sent it in, but I am a very, very strong lean that I'm
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  going to go with the public and I'm going to take Denver, take
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  the Denver Broncos. They will be the top choice.
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  I think they will too. Or will they be because the
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  Eagles now, I mean the the point we talked about to start the
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  show, the point spreads gone the other way the the all favoring
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  Eagles. I think the Eagles are going to
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  get a lot of play on Thursday night.
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  But the Eagles have prime time affairs later in the season,
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  right? Well, I would try and save them,
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  but I think there's a lot of people that would use the
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  Eagles. So I got to tell you who we're
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  playing. And when I first heard who we're
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  playing, I thought, Oh my God, what a waste of money.
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  But the more I think about it, look, we've never seen October.
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  No, that's true. It's not like the my formula has
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  been working. We're playing Jacksonville.
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  Jacksonville at home against Carolina, right?
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  They're a 3 1/2 point favorite. Do you like the pick?
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  No, I just, I've lost too much money on Trevor Lawrence.
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  Yeah. Well, OK.
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  Where are you on Carolina? Are they going to be improved
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  this year? Well, they can't be worse
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  defensively because they're the worst defense in NFL history in
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  terms of points allowed a year ago.
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  So they can't be worse. Huge question marks of wide
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  receivers. Xavier Leggett, I don't know if
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  he has it. They had a young guy that came
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  in that there was getting a lot of buzz.
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  What we saw from from Young at the back half of last year
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  looked good. What was the product of a team
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  that was out of it and just kind of throwing it around?
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  Carolina's going to be better. Yep, I'm with you, but it's not
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  awful. We are taking Jacksonville and I
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  do like this pic and this wasn't one of my radar to begin with.
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  We're going to take the Steelers.
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  Going with the Steelers, we're. Going to take the Steelers to
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  beat the New York Jets. On the road you're going with
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  the road team we're. Going with Aaron Rodgers, we're
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  going on the Road 2. Years ago that didn't go very
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  well in the first game. No, I didn't see much.
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  Of it, no. Yeah, we're going to take the
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  Steelers. Right.
• 18:12
  Do we? Do we both?
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  We only have two plays, the only two entries this year.
• 18:16
  Well, it'll probably be 10-7 at the half, Jets, and you're going
• 18:20
  to. Be you think it will be Oh.
• 18:21
  Yeah, because the Steelers never win, but.
• 18:23
  There's so much steam on Pittsburgh, Trent.
• 18:25
  There's a lot of folks that thinks Pittsburgh's a dark horse
• 18:28
  Super Bowl. I just need him to win Week 1.
• 18:30
  Gary Dolphin is coming up next. John Walters will follow Gary in
• 18:33
  here. Miller and Condon taking you
• 18:35
  until 2. Glad you're with us on a midweek
• 18:38
  Wednesday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
• 18:40
  Network. I'm Hillary Congon, welcome
• 18:46
  back. Appreciate you being with us on
• 18:48
  a Wednesday. Still to come this hour, the
• 18:50
  voice of Iowa State, John Walters, Gary Dolphin
• 18:53
  momentarily hour number two, David Kaplan off to Chicago.
• 18:57
  We will go with the cap man in his weekly Wednesday spot.
• 19:00
  Let's get to Gary Dolphin. You'll be down the hall from us
• 19:04
  here on 1040 WHO with a Hawkeye call and he joins us.
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  Gary Trenton, Ken, thanks for coming on on this Wednesday.
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  How are things with you, Dolph? Hey, Hi, Kenny.
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  Yeah, Trent, good to be on with you guys.
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  Haven't talked in a while. Yeah, it's, it's a wild week as
• 19:19
  always, but I love it, you know, especially if you're from this
• 19:21
  state and you've experienced a game, whether in person or
• 19:25
  listening and hugging your radio or watching.
• 19:28
  Well done. Yeah.
• 19:30
  Got me indifferent this week. It should be a great game.
• 19:32
  No, absolutely isn't. I know it's cliche, but you
• 19:35
  truly can throw the records out, especially since 97.
• 19:38
  Was it 98 when everything changed with the with the
• 19:41
  McCartney finally getting that done and it's been phenomenal
• 19:45
  ever since then. So let's go back to Week 1.
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  Obviously, no one expected to see Mark Gronowski.
• 19:50
  There's, you know, a lot of speculation as to what was
• 19:53
  behind it, nerves, etcetera. Has to be better this week.
• 19:56
  When you watched him, when you from your perch high above at
• 19:59
  Kinnock Stadium, what did you see out of the new signal caller
• 20:02
  for the Hawks, Gary? Well, it's his first game, you
• 20:06
  know, at this level and he's, he's played Division One teams
• 20:09
  before. So it's not like he hasn't seen
• 20:12
  defenses, especially the, the, the likes of Albany.
• 20:16
  You know, I think he might, I think my view is he pressed too
• 20:19
  much. I, you know, we know what he can
• 20:21
  do. He's, he's got 10,000 yards
• 20:24
  passing. He knows where the end zone
• 20:26
  IS13334 career touchdowns. And he did throw a touchdown
• 20:30
  pass and he scored a touchdown pass.
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  Certainly the numbers aren't where Tim Lester wants them to
• 20:36
  be. And I I just think he pressed
• 20:39
  too much couple he threw right into the dirt and and that's
• 20:42
  very unlike him. But first game jitters.
• 20:44
  I'm not sure. Probably some of that.
• 20:47
  I can assure you his shoulder is is fine.
• 20:50
  It has been since June. He's been throwing.
• 20:52
  I've been watching him in practice.
• 20:54
  He's throwing very well. Now, granted, he's going up
• 20:57
  against the Iowa defense in practice every day, but that
• 21:00
  wasn't the Iowa defense out there last week.
• 21:02
  So Mark knows he's got to get better and and he will.
• 21:05
  He's a terrific young guy and he's a he's a very heady
• 21:08
  quarterback. And I think that's where this
• 21:10
  game lies Saturday is the improvement of Gronowski at
• 21:13
  least throwing the football. You know what Rocco Beck has
• 21:16
  been doing the first two weeks of the season.
• 21:18
  So as usual, the quarterback position will ultimately decide
• 21:22
  this, along with a couple of other factors.
• 21:24
  Year ago Iowa was able to run the football very well coming
• 21:27
  out party for Caleb Johnson after the first half he against
• 21:29
  had against Illinois State and then what he get it did against
• 21:32
  the Cyclones. There will be no Kamari Bolton.
• 21:34
  So how do you anticipate the running backs are going to be
• 21:37
  divvied up here? Two years ago Jazzy on Patterson
• 21:40
  had a tremendous game over in Ames.
• 21:42
  What do you expect to see a running back coming up this
• 21:44
  weekend? Well, hopefully more of the same
• 21:47
  if you're a Hawkeye fan. I mean, and then thank goodness
• 21:49
  Xavier Williams, now he's been he's been showing that kind of
• 21:54
  savvy. I mean, for a freshman, he's
• 21:57
  been showing that kind of savvy all all fall camp.
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  And I think we haven't even mentioned the offensive line
• 22:03
  yet. And I think that's key.
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  This is this is one of the top rated offensive lines returning.
• 22:08
  You've got Logan Jones and Jennings Dunker, who were rated
• 22:12
  by Pro Football Focus the highest at their positions for
• 22:15
  seniors coming back anyway, and they're both going to be playing
• 22:18
  on Sunday next year. And then you've got 2 salty
• 22:21
  guards and Peeper and Bo Stevens and and then obviously left
• 22:26
  tackle. That's a little bit of a mystery
• 22:28
  yet, but this kid Lauk from Indianapolis is is the real
• 22:32
  deal. And Jack Dotzler has gotten good
• 22:34
  experience, too. You know, it's a little
• 22:37
  disappointing to me last week that the tight ends weren't more
• 22:39
  involved, particularly Astringa. They've got good tight ends with
• 22:43
  Ortworth and Astringa. Maybe not the TJ Hawkinson or
• 22:46
  Sam Laporta level, but, but they're very, very good.
• 22:49
  So I look for those guys to be more active.
• 22:51
  You know, I heard something chuckled this week.
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  Well, Iowa wasn't showing much last week for Iowa State.
• 22:57
  Yeah. OK.
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  Well, hopefully they show it all this week then.
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  But I I think you'll see a much more active offense.
• 23:04
  The defense just keeps doing what they're doing.
• 23:06
  But to the running game, whether it's Xavier, you know, he's 225
• 23:11
  lbs. He reminds me a lot of Caleb
• 23:13
  Johnson. And who knew who Caleb Johnson
• 23:15
  was a year at this time? And so that this might be the
• 23:19
  the the second X man that has a a breakout year for the
• 23:23
  Hawkeyes. And you know, behind him, Jazz
• 23:25
  Patterson is longer and lankier and can hit the hole.
• 23:29
  He's got great speed. Ty Washington is a terrific
• 23:34
  speedster. They used him a lot, as you guys
• 23:36
  know, on the slot last year and ran jet sweeps with him and and
• 23:40
  look for maybe some of that. But I think they've got a not a
• 23:43
  three headed monster, but certainly a three headed group
• 23:46
  of guys that now that Xavier's had a game under his belt, I
• 23:50
  look for the running game to be solid.
• 23:52
  It has to be if they're going to win the game on the road.
• 23:54
  You know, when it comes, when it comes to Iowa, you know, tight
• 23:56
  end you, etcetera, they've had, they've had such an
• 23:59
  embarrassment of richness. Some of those positions, you
• 24:01
  know, there's one that I think kind of gets overlooked a little
• 24:03
  bit, and that's the return game. And they've been blessed with
• 24:06
  some great ones and I think they've got another one.
• 24:08
  This Ouijan, every time I watch him play Gary, it seems like
• 24:12
  they've got him bottled up and he finds a way to get out of,
• 24:15
  get out of it and find a hold and just keep running.
• 24:18
  I think Ouijan's going to go down as, you know, a part of
• 24:20
  that group that was that. I was been so fortunate to flip
• 24:23
  the field. When it comes to kick and punt
• 24:26
  returns, Ouijan's a good one. That's a great point, Kenny.
• 24:29
  I go back to what Albany coach, Coach Ambrose said last week.
• 24:34
  And you know, he's had, he was offensive coordinator at
• 24:36
  Delaware when they had great offenses with the Blue Hens.
• 24:39
  So he knows something about kids that can score and can take it
• 24:43
  to the other end. And that punt that Ouijian
• 24:46
  fielded last week, running about 20 yards with a full out Sprint
• 24:51
  to catch the ball, the wind was playing tricks with it and and
• 24:55
  caught it at his kneecaps and then still shook two or three
• 24:59
  tacklers and got 18 yards on the punt return.
• 25:01
  That's what he does now. If he gets in the open, he's
• 25:03
  gone because he's got great speed and, and I'm sure Coach
• 25:07
  Campbell and his staff have, especially the special teams
• 25:10
  folks have looked at Weijia long and hard.
• 25:13
  I mean, they've seen him for a couple of years now.
• 25:15
  But he is so excited, excited to be playing as a receiver, a slot
• 25:20
  receiver as well as return. He can't get on the field
• 25:23
  enough. That's what he'll tell you.
• 25:25
  And so he's an excited he's he's he's a kind of a, a mini version
• 25:28
  of Tim Dwight. I'm not saying he's Tim Dwight
• 25:31
  the man. He can make it happy and he
• 25:32
  won't happen. And he wants to touch the
• 25:34
  football, kind of like Cooper De Jean did when he was here.
• 25:37
  He hated to call for a fair catch, but the region's the same
• 25:40
  way. And look for him to make a play.
• 25:43
  You know, you guys have watched this series almost as long as I
• 25:46
  am. This typically comes down to a
• 25:47
  turnover or a special teams play or a great field goal kick like
• 25:52
  last year for the kid from Iowa State.
• 25:55
  So don't be surprised if that happens again.
• 25:57
  I think what 10 of the last 13 games have been 10 points or
• 26:01
  less and I think the last 7 or 8 have ended in A1 score game or
• 26:06
  seven of the last 8. So it, it is what it is.
• 26:09
  It's Iowa State. It's in state.
• 26:11
  If you like the clones, if you like the Hawks, if you don't
• 26:14
  even follow football, the state grinds to a stop to either
• 26:17
  listen or watch this game. That's what it is.
• 26:20
  Great game and really going to be a fun one.
• 26:22
  Iowa State favored by three, 3 1/2 in the market right now.
• 26:25
  Hey, Dolph, let's jump over to the defense.
• 26:27
  A lot of new faces out there. A lot of guys that getting their
• 26:30
  first extensive reps, including Jaden Harrell in the middle,
• 26:34
  Zach Luttmer. What do you see as some of those
• 26:35
  new faces defensively on Saturday?
• 26:38
  Well, Luttmer, I really love he. He kind of emerged in the
• 26:41
  second-half of the season last year on special teams, I might
• 26:44
  add, and then and then got a shot on some third downs and
• 26:48
  some run contained. He's a big burly kid from
• 26:51
  northwest Iowa and he'll hit you.
• 26:53
  He'll drive you into next week and he'll he'll be a great
• 26:56
  compliment to when they go to the cash and they they they can
• 27:01
  drop him down there. But he and Wampa should be a a
• 27:03
  pair of outstanding safeties as the season wears on corner.
• 27:07
  I thought TJ Lee and and excuse me, TJ Hall and Deshawn Lee
• 27:13
  played much better in the second-half than the first half.
• 27:15
  You know, they need to step their game up a level or two
• 27:17
  this year up front. No worries, except for depth at
• 27:21
  the one tackle. They're a little thin there
• 27:23
  simply because they've lost so many good players.
• 27:25
  Why a black? Most most notably of late, but
• 27:28
  Aaron Graves is an All American and in waiting you got two of
• 27:32
  the better defensive ends in Llewellyn and and Herkut.
• 27:35
  So what what kind of pressure do they want to put on Rocco Beck
• 27:40
  him in the box almost every year we say that about the Iowa State
• 27:44
  quarterback Purdy to to Beck got to keep him inside the the hash
• 27:49
  marks. If they get outside they're
• 27:51
  very, very lethal. The linebackers you got both
• 27:54
  Jaden Harrell and Jaden Montgomery, who played a lot
• 27:57
  last week. I I don't know if that that
• 27:59
  position has been settled yet, but Carson Shire and Jackson Rex
• 28:04
  Roth are definitely slotted in at those two other outside
• 28:07
  linebacker spots. And then those 3 red shirt
• 28:11
  freshmen are biting through iron just waiting to get in there.
• 28:14
  You saw a little bit of Preston Reece last week.
• 28:16
  What he's going to be what he is, but I can tell you and
• 28:20
  watching Cam Buffington from Winfield and Derek Montrose from
• 28:25
  from Williamsburg, you know, Seth Wallace said.
• 28:28
  You know, they're going to get down the field eventually as to
• 28:30
  when we just got to keep him patient.
• 28:33
  And that's hard to do when you know those three kids because
• 28:36
  they're they're the future of the position for sure.
• 28:38
  No doubt about it. Last thing for me, I let Trent
• 28:40
  finish up with the Gary. Appreciate you coming on.
• 28:42
  Obviously a milestone potentially if I was to win.
• 28:45
  I got to think you've called all of them unless you had a family
• 28:48
  engagement. All of Kirk's wins as he's about
• 28:51
  to become college football's all time winning as coach.
• 28:54
  Guessing when he got here, nobody saw this one coming, but
• 28:57
  kind of a feather in your cap that you've been on the
• 29:00
  microphone for all of them. Yeah, 205 of them, Ken and and
• 29:04
  and of course, 120 losses or whatever it is, but it's he is
• 29:09
  such a low key far the furthest you could be from patting
• 29:16
  himself on the back. He he doesn't want to hear about
• 29:19
  two O 6 this week or next week or the week after.
• 29:24
  Whenever it happens. He lives for the moment.
• 29:27
  He loves to coach. He said, I don't play golf.
• 29:29
  I don't play tennis. I'm going to coach and enjoy my
• 29:32
  14 grandkids. And he's he stayed that way
• 29:35
  consistently. And you know, he'll he'll be
• 29:38
  he'll if it happens Saturday, he'll be he'll be very emotional
• 29:41
  in the locker room. We all we've all watched coach
• 29:44
  shed a lot of tears down through the years.
• 29:46
  But you know, last Friday night and seeing the Hall of Fame get
• 29:51
  together in Iowa City, Bob Bullsby went into the end of the
• 29:54
  hall, the letter winners Hall of Fame.
• 29:56
  And, and I asked him about the, the coaching hire 26 years ago.
• 30:01
  And he said, well, Kirk wasn't the popular hire, obviously, but
• 30:06
  he he said he turned out pretty good.
• 30:08
  And, and what Bob Bullsby said he saw in him was a guy that is
• 30:12
  so organized and is such a hard line coach and loves being
• 30:17
  around kids, loves being around practice, almost enjoy spring
• 30:20
  ball more than any other time of the year because he doesn't have
• 30:23
  to worry about an opponent. I mean, that's who he is, you
• 30:26
  know, from blue collar Pittsburgh and to think he's
• 30:30
  lasted 2526 years at in this day and age of college football is
• 30:35
  truly remarkable and I don't see him giving it up anytime soon.
• 30:39
  So Dolph will let you go on this.
• 30:40
  What's it going to take for the Hawkeyes to pull the upset?
• 30:42
  A spot they haven't been very often in this series, an
• 30:46
  underdog? What's it going to take on
• 30:47
  Saturday to get the W? Mark Gronowski's got to be Mark
• 30:51
  Gronowski. You know, the running game.
• 30:54
  I, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Cyclone stack 789 guys
• 30:57
  in the box until Gronowski proves himself and, and I think
• 31:01
  he'll step up and play much better.
• 31:02
  But to me, it still comes back to special teams.
• 31:06
  You know, the Hawkeyes got an All American kicker and they've
• 31:08
  got a freshman All American punter now a sophomore and field
• 31:11
  position is so important for the Iowa defense and if you can make
• 31:15
  him drive the field 12/13/14 plays, odds are good to even
• 31:19
  Rocco Beck can make a mistake and and that's what I was hoping
• 31:22
  on. Great stuff Dolph, appreciate
• 31:24
  you doing this for us, Gary. Really do enjoy the game
• 31:27
  Saturday. Thank you.
• 31:28
  OK, guys. Good to be with you.
• 31:30
  Good to talk to you, Gary Dolphin, Voice of Iowa.
• 31:32
  John Walters, The Voice of Iowa State.
• 31:34
  Next. Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports
• 31:35
  Radio Network. I'm Hillary Condon.
• 31:38
  Welcome back, 1245 David Kaplan, Hour number two, Frank Schwab,
• 31:42
  yahoosports.com. Thanks to Gary Dolphin.
• 31:45
  Let's get the voice of Iowa State.
• 31:46
  He's John Walters. He'll have the call down the
• 31:49
  other hall from where we sit on 100.3.
• 31:52
  The bust, the flagship here in Iowa, John Trenton, Ken, thanks
• 31:56
  for finding time for us. You know what I want to put out
• 31:58
  there before we get into the game itself.
• 32:00
  I can't tell you how I'm impressed by kind of the the
• 32:03
  game day officer who's ever in charge.
• 32:06
  I watched AK State team almost get beat after their trip to
• 32:09
  Dublin and I thought coming into the South Dakota game that this
• 32:12
  team's going to it's going to linger the jet lag, blah, blah,
• 32:16
  blah. That was not the case at all at
• 32:19
  Jack Tri Stadium. Meanwhile, K State's night and
• 32:22
  day. I think those people deserve a
• 32:23
  ton of credit for having this team prepared not only to go
• 32:27
  over there, but then to come back and be ready to go.
• 32:30
  No, I totally agree. All that homework they did on
• 32:32
  the way NFL teams handled it and other college teams have handled
• 32:36
  it through the years, I think really paid off.
• 32:38
  And Matt had the full attention of his players, you know, and he
• 32:41
  said something this week when he was asked about kind of the
• 32:43
  extra juice that comes with the side Hawk game.
• 32:47
  And he said, yeah, there there is some extra juice.
• 32:49
  But he said you can't let that affect the way you prepare for a
• 32:53
  game. You know, it has to be the same
• 32:54
  every single week. And so I think that was really
• 32:58
  evident last week. I mean, I think that really
• 33:00
  showed that they do treat every game and every preparation the
• 33:03
  same way, because that was a classic example of a place where
• 33:07
  it could really hurt you if you didn't.
• 33:08
  And boy, they looked really sharp.
• 33:11
  They did and ready to go from the get go.
• 33:14
  Offense was clicking and 19 of 20 for Rocco backed.
• 33:18
  It feels like he has elevated his game to yet another level of
• 33:22
  what we saw in Ireland, what we see here.
• 33:24
  What have you seen from him? A guy that certainly put in the
• 33:26
  work to hone his craft and how he seemingly has taken that next
• 33:30
  step here in another season as a starter.
• 33:33
  Well, I don't know if I've ever heard somebody affectionately
• 33:36
  refer to someone as a psychopath, but that's what
• 33:39
  Taylor Mauser referred to Rocco as yesterday.
• 33:41
  And he was complimenting his preparation and how much he
• 33:45
  handles adversity well and and all those little things that are
• 33:48
  intangibles that make for a great quarterback.
• 33:50
  And I think Rocco has just matured so much.
• 33:53
  And, you know, he has such a command.
• 33:56
  I think that's the word I keep coming back to is he's in
• 33:59
  command, you know, command of the huddle, command of standing
• 34:03
  there at the line of scrimmage, watching how the defense is
• 34:05
  reacting and what he can do to change the play, perhaps command
• 34:08
  of practice, just command of the team.
• 34:10
  You know, he's a captain and he just, it always feels like he's
• 34:14
  in charge and he's comfortable with that.
• 34:15
  He feels great in that role and it gives you a great feeling as
• 34:19
  a football team because you always feel like he's going to
• 34:21
  make a play when it matters most.
• 34:23
  We saw that last year when they had five go ahead drives in the
• 34:28
  final moments of games. That's incredible to do in one
• 34:31
  season and he was at the heart of all of that, including the
• 34:34
  win in Iowa City. And so it does give you a lot of
• 34:36
  confidence as a football team to have a guy like that, especially
• 34:39
  at that position. Xavier Townsend looks as though
• 34:42
  he's got a whole lot of shake and a whole lot of game and we
• 34:45
  didn't see that over in Dublin. Got a glimpse of it last week,
• 34:48
  John and when he got the football in his hands, Certainly
• 34:51
  fun to watch and dangerous seemingly.
• 34:54
  Do you anticipate, should Cyclone fans anticipate, that
• 34:57
  his role will just continue to grow as he gets over what was
• 35:00
  ailing him during the fall camp and more comfortable in his with
• 35:04
  his new role at Cyclone football?
• 35:07
  100% I think that's true. I think absolutely.
• 35:10
  And I was talking to Eric Cap today and Eric said his number
• 35:13
  one take away from the game against South Dakota was not so
• 35:16
  much Rocco, because he knew he would be good and he was and all
• 35:20
  the other things that happened. But he said Xavier Townsend was
• 35:23
  his number one take away from that game to get him showing a
• 35:26
  little bit of what he can do because they need somebody
• 35:29
  that's a playmaker, you know, in that role.
• 35:32
  And Jalen Dole gave him so much of that a year ago.
• 35:35
  And so, yeah, I think Townsend's role will continue to increase.
• 35:38
  Obviously, he's the guy that can return punts and kicks to if you
• 35:41
  need him to. He's a guy that we saw the end
• 35:44
  of round last week where he scored the touchdown.
• 35:47
  You find different creative ways to make sure to get the ball in
• 35:49
  his hands. And just like they did with
• 35:52
  Jaylen Nolan, I think that's a great fit with Taylor Mauser
• 35:54
  because I think he loves the creativity part of trying to
• 35:58
  find a way to put the ball in a playmaker's hands and give him a
• 36:00
  little space. And you know, football,
• 36:02
  basketball, any sport, to me, it's the offensive team is all
• 36:05
  about trying to create space and the defensive team is about
• 36:08
  trying to take it away. And Mouse is pretty good at
• 36:11
  creating some space. And if he can get Townsend out
• 36:13
  there with some room to do that wiggling, there could be some
• 36:17
  juicy wiggles happening at Jack Tracy Stadium on Saturday.
• 36:20
  You know, the tight end position has been built into a strength
• 36:22
  here recently for Iowa State and maybe they got the best group
• 36:25
  they've ever had and they had a couple of good ones a couple of
• 36:28
  years back. Bramer, an absolute nightmare
• 36:30
  matchup, 6 foot 7, the athleticism that he has and Gabe
• 36:34
  Burkle, well, he continues to turn heads.
• 36:36
  The other, the crazy thing is John, they've had plenty of
• 36:39
  times where they've had a tight end or two, but you go Tyler
• 36:41
  Moore, what he's been giving him, Cooper Alexander looks like
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  he's got a bright future. They have depth at this position
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  unlike anything I can remember. Yeah, that's exactly accurate.
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  You know, when they had Charlie Koehler and Dylan Saner and
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  Chase Allen all at the same time and they played three tight end
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  personnel frequently, they were playing to their strengths and
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  it created match up nightmares for opponents.
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  And I think this group is doing the exact same thing.
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  And you know, Keaton Roscopf is another guy that can get in
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  there at that kind of that full back type spot along with Tyler
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  Moore and create some havoc that way.
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  And Trip Walsh is a good football player.
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  I mean, the list keeps going. And you you mentioned Cooper
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  Alexander. We haven't even seen him catch a
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  pass yet. And he's going to he's going to
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  be a terrific pass catcher for Iowa State.
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  But they had 13 receptions from their tight ends last week.
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  I said to Taylor Mauser today, would you like to see that
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  number closer to 20? He said, yeah, actually 25 or 30
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  would be right at my wheelhouse. So yeah, it's fun to see those
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  guys so involved and I do. You mentioned the nightmare part
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  of it. That's exactly what it is for
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  defensive coordinator, because we saw at times last week Hanson
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  and Sama both on the field at the same time.
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  We saw plays where Iowa State had one tight end, 2 tight ends,
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  three tight ends, 4 tight ends in the game at the same time.
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  And there's so many different things you have to prepare for
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  that it's got that would be kind of a headache for defensive
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  coordinators to know that there's all these formations and
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  all these looks that I was thinking give you.
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  And then you've got a quarterback that can see what
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  the defense is reacting to and adjust it on the fly.
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  I love the fact that Rocco's been sent up there, some of
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  those 14 personnel moments with multiple plays in mind and
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  they'll split them out wide if their defense reacts a certain
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  way or keep them in tight. And it's just up to him.
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  And so love that versatility. And I think it really creates
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  some problems for teams trying to get ready.
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  Yeah, I think Roscop was the one that threw the block on Beck's
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  touchdown in Dublin with that edge rusher that looked like he
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  had Rocco dead to rights. And here comes Roscop across the
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  grain and just picked him off and Beck just sashayed into the
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  end zone. Well, what's the key to this
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  game in your mind, John? How is Iowa State going to knock
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  off the Hawks? They're favored to do so by
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  about a field goal. How does Iowa State win this
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  game in your mind? We've got about a minute left,
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  John. Sure.
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  I think #1 slow the run of Iowa, which is so much easier said
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  than done. Terrific running backs, great
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  offensive line, great tight ends.
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  They're going to want to establish that run game.
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  And last year they were 18 punts, I mean, starting each
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  other down in the game of chicken and, you know, both
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  trying to establish the run. But what you saw happened last
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  year was I was stayed. And this is the second part for
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  me. They got away from saying, OK,
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  we're going to run it on 1st down every time.
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  And that's when they opened up the offense a little bit more.
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  And we heard Coach Mauser say this week that he's not afraid
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  to fail. I think Iowa State has to be
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  more multiple on 1st down and not predictable and throw the
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  ball some and you know they threw for about 3 times as many
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  yards as they rushed for a year ago.
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  They might have to do that again.
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  It worked, they won. It would do whatever it takes to
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  move the ball and move those chains.
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  John, thanks for popping on. Appreciate it on game week.
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  Know you're busy. Thank you, John.
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  Enjoy the game. We'll talk to down the road.
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  Appreciate it, John. Sounds good.
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  Thanks guys. Yeah.
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  Good to talk to John Walters, the voice of Iowa State.
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  Thank you to him. Thank you to Gary Dolphin, both
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  voices with their thoughts on Cyhawk 2025.
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  I think I found a a key combo of numbers for you.
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  OK, Speaking of Rocco, with a clean pocket, Rocco is 31 of
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  4273.8 percent, 436 yards, 5 touchdowns, no interceptions
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  under pressure, 2 of 625 yards. Hasn't had a lot of pressure but
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  hasn't been good when it's there.
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  But you can't get pressure with the blitz because it gets the
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  blitz. Rocco backed 11 of 16150 yards,
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  3 touchdowns. Iowa's front 4 has to generate
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  pressure. Well, they got the guys.
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  They got the guys it this, this is one of the kind of behind the
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  game, within the game, you know, watching is, is Iowa State's
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  offensive line better? Is.
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  It going to hold up, is it? Going to hold up.
• 40:45
  Brendan Black's numbers from PFF have not been good.
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  No, I should've seen this is his first game as a freshman when we
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  both were like wow they got something here.
• 40:54
  Hour 2, Cappy kicks it off Frank Schwab on the kickoff of the
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  NFL. Miller and Condon one hour to
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  go. Thanks for being with us, Iowa
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