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DMA#60: Disenfranchised Clowns, Election Night Comfort Food, and the Trump Ocean Shark. · Draw Me Anything with Jason Chatfield

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  SPEAKER_01: And try to see if
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  SPEAKER_01: that can become a real thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, would you consider self -pubbing considering you have such an loyal audience on Substack?
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Have you noticed very many artists doing self - published graphic memoirs?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, It's interesting because my friend Sophia just did a self-pub, not a self-pub,
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  SPEAKER_00: a graphic memoir.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a great memoir.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a graphic memoir called Film Nerds.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she did it through, I think, Andrews McMill Publishing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not 100%.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Hilary Campbell did the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: She did The Joy of Snacking, which is another illustrated graphic memoir.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're two great New Yorker cartoonists.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're really fun writing style and drawing style.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think they...
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  SPEAKER_00: After this sort of process, they were kind of going,
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  SPEAKER_00: I wonder if I would have had more fun and success with this.
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  SPEAKER_00: And by success, I mean, like,
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  SPEAKER_00: there's just like less pressure to like hit all these benchmarks
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  SPEAKER_00: with the marketing department and the distribution and sales team and all this sort
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  SPEAKER_00: of stuff and having to, you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: curate it to whatever the market wants this second.
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  SPEAKER_00: If I just sell pub, you know, and I do think about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I do think like, you know, sometimes if you do sell pub, I'm looking at Nishant.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think you know Nishant, Jen.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's self-pubbing and he's crowdfunded this book.
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  SPEAKER_00: He already hit the, I mean, within, I think, like 48 hours or something,
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  SPEAKER_00: he hit his goal of crowdfunding his new book because he went
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  SPEAKER_00: with a traditional publisher previously and he wasn't totally thrilled
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  SPEAKER_00: with how it all kind of went.
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  SPEAKER_00: He didn't write the book that he wanted to write.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I understand.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think with a graphic memoir, I probably need the help of an editor to tell you the truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think just the body of work would be so intense.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think maybe for something like a thinking in watercolor type book,
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  SPEAKER_01: maybe it could be a little bit more of a self-published book.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not against the idea.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think I've been around the block a couple of times now,
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  SPEAKER_01: so I would know more about how to leverage it to make it work for me too.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I think it depends on the book and maybe something a little bit more niche,
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  SPEAKER_01: a little bit more specific.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why not be a good idea? Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your book is great.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's kind of a timeless book and I know that it took you a while to make,
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  SPEAKER_00: but it is a very useful thing, especially for people who, you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: they're not trained artists.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, they're people who are curious.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're curious about the form.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're curious about, you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: they've probably always kind of been wanting to do it or they've always kind of,
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  SPEAKER_00: Wanted to sort of read about someone else's journey with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's a really nice, low pressure kind of read in that sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, there's no like, hey, it's not prescriptive is what I'm trying to say.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it has a point of view, you know, I think.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm unfortunately read some Amazon reviews.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't ever read the reviews for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a really good exercise, but um I think Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Know a lot of people have said like oh it's not what I thought it was
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  SPEAKER_01: or it's different or but that's kind
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  SPEAKER_01: of what makes it stand out you know it's just yes it's not about copying things
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  SPEAKER_01: that you see it's more of the philosophy of using watercolor and looking
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  SPEAKER_01: at the world around you and I think that's what's interesting about being
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  SPEAKER_01: an artist It's not
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  SPEAKER_00: about the rules of how you should or shouldn't do things.
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  SPEAKER_01: And once again, I wrote a post on Substack recently,
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  SPEAKER_01: which I thought was kind of interesting,
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  SPEAKER_01: but was about looking to the past to figure out what's in the future.