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Breaking The Internet With Strings: A Music Lesson From BERNTH & CHARLES BERTHOUD · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Is Charles Bear two. I'm a bassist. I've mostly very
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  Speaker 1: active on social media. I've got decent YouTube channel, Instagram, Facebook,
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  Speaker 1: TikTok and play a lot of solo stuff. But also
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  Speaker 1: now more recently the Escape the Internet tours with Burnt
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  Speaker 1: and the last one had over England and the upcoming
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  Speaker 1: Australian stuff has the omnific which I'm very excited about
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, really looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: Great. My name is Berent. I'm a guitar player. I
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  Speaker 2: also have a YouTube channel. That's what we all have
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  Speaker 2: in common. That's where we kind of met virtually, and
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  Speaker 2: we started playing together roughly two years ago, just some
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  Speaker 2: one off shows and decided to do our very first
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  Speaker 2: tour this year, and we started out in Europe and
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  Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks will be in China, South
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  Speaker 2: Korea and then finally in Australia to end the next
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  Speaker 2: leg after tour.
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  Speaker 3: Nice guys, thanks for joining us today. I's supposed to
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  Speaker 3: speak with you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having us.
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  Speaker 4: No way, so you will join Forces for the first
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  Speaker 4: time in Australia for three select shows, kicking up in
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  Speaker 4: Brisbane on October thirty first before hitting Melbourne and Sydney
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  Speaker 4: over consecutive nights. Like sounds like you got a bit
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  Speaker 4: to do before you come here, guys, is are pretty busy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it'll be our first ever shows in
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  Speaker 1: China and Korea as well. Actually, so really looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to it. And yes, so'll the beast. I think is
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  Speaker 1: it seven shows in China and then one in Korea.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll.
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  Speaker 1: Be definitely nicely warmed up by the time we get
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  Speaker 1: to Australia. Yeah. So yeah, which the show should be
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  Speaker 1: like really at its peak once we get to Australia.
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  Speaker 4: What about like a vision places Like you mentioned China
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  Speaker 4: and Korea for the first time, you're do in Australia
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  Speaker 4: for the first time. So do you talk to people
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  Speaker 4: that you know that have been here before and sort
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  Speaker 4: of find out what to expect or do you rather
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  Speaker 4: go in cold and just take things as they came.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember, Charles, but it was
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  Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago. We met with guitar
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  Speaker 2: player that's from Australia. He plays for Earth Wind and
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  Speaker 2: Fire and he had a couple of recommendations and I
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  Speaker 2: think he will actually send us some stuffs. He was
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  Speaker 2: mostly in Sydney active in Sydney, I think, so maybe
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  Speaker 2: we can check some of that out. But do you
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  Speaker 2: have anything did you hear anything from China and South Korea?
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  Speaker 2: Any recommendations?
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  Speaker 3: Have never been anywhere. I don't even know where they are.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, our friend Mike Dawes did a
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  Speaker 1: tour in China and so he had some tips for us.
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  Speaker 1: I also met Basis who did a tour in China,
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  Speaker 1: and he had some interesting stories. Apparently it's not a
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  Speaker 1: good idea to ask the audience to clap along, is
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  Speaker 1: what I've heard. Apparently it's like kind of not allowed
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  Speaker 1: or something.
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  Speaker 3: But you're up there planning, they're not clapping at least
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to take offense.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, exactly, we will crowded corection instead. Were already
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  Speaker 2: hoped that crowds are really great.
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  Speaker 4: Here, very very loud, so be prepared for some boisterousness.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we want.
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  Speaker 1: We like that.
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  Speaker 4: So for those who might not be too familiar with
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  Speaker 4: the tour, it's called the Beans and Charles Escape the
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  Speaker 4: Internet Tours. So I don't know why, but every time
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  Speaker 4: I say that or I read that, my mind goes
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  Speaker 4: to Bill and Ted's excellent adventure.
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  Speaker 3: Vital roles.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it won't be quite like that, but it
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  Speaker 1: will be a little different from the average show. I think,
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  Speaker 1: since we're both YouTubers, will be taking a lot of
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  Speaker 1: what we do online to the stage, so it won't
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  Speaker 1: just be playing songs back to back. They'll be there's
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  Speaker 1: quite a lot of banter in between and some challenges.
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  Speaker 1: The big debate every time we play a show is
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  Speaker 1: always which instrument is better, bass or guitar. I mean
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  Speaker 1: bass always wins. Yeah, so there's gonna be It's what
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  Speaker 1: we do on YouTube, but brought to the stage and enhanced,
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  Speaker 1: taken up a level. So it's not just music, but
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  Speaker 1: there is also a lot of music involved.
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  Speaker 4: And now it's both excellent prop like your bvise player,
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  Speaker 4: your guitar play. A bit aside from that, if people
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  Speaker 4: haven't heard too much about it, you don't know much
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  Speaker 4: about it. Gives a bit of background on bicy use
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  Speaker 4: and where you come from and how you got to
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  Speaker 4: this stage.
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  Speaker 2: So on my end, I actually started out as a
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  Speaker 2: session and live musician in Austria. That's where I'm from
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  Speaker 2: originally before I moved to Los Angeles, and I actually
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  Speaker 2: come from the life and from the touring world, and
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  Speaker 2: started my YouTube channel much later, And it depends on
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  Speaker 2: where people know me from. Either they know me from
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  Speaker 2: the YouTube channel, or from some of the metal bands
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  Speaker 2: that I played with, or from the popek that I
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  Speaker 2: played in Austria. We made a couple of platinum records
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  Speaker 2: together and recently, just a couple of weeks ago, played
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  Speaker 2: a stadium of fifty thousand people, which was great. But
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  Speaker 2: this band is only famous in Austria, so it really depends.
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  Speaker 2: Some people know me from that, others from YouTube, others
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  Speaker 2: from from the stuff. But I think the YouTube channel
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  Speaker 2: is the biggest thing by now and over there, I
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  Speaker 2: play guitar most of the time. I do some kind
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  Speaker 2: of crazy experiment here and there. I filled a couple
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  Speaker 2: of guitars with water to see what that sounds like,
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  Speaker 2: drill holes into others, and those videos often went viral
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  Speaker 2: because the thumbnail looks quite interesting if you see like
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  Speaker 2: a drill going inside an acoustic guitar, and that led
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  Speaker 2: to people actually checking out the music I played with
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  Speaker 2: those instruments, and that finally led to people wanting that
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  Speaker 2: to see, wanting to see those videos or songs performed
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  Speaker 2: live and that's also how we met. I guess with
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  Speaker 2: how I met with Charles online on YouTube?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, but did One of his crazy ideas
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  Speaker 1: was to pitch shift his guitar down into like a
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  Speaker 1: bass register, which then led a lot of people to
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  Speaker 1: leave comments saying you should do something with child's bad too,
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  Speaker 1: And then he uploaded a video that said my problem
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  Speaker 1: with Charles Bair two and I was wondering, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that was an interesting way to start the day. It
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  Speaker 1: was kind of the first thing I saw in the
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  Speaker 1: morning was just someone has a problem with me, and
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  Speaker 1: I was wondering what I had done, and I clicked
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  Speaker 1: on the video and saw that Bert was actually very
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  Speaker 1: politely challenging me to a battle. He kind of complimented
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  Speaker 1: quite complimented me quite a lot, but then also challenged
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  Speaker 1: me to a battle, which was kind of funny. So
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  Speaker 1: we did the battle and that's kind of where everything started.
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  Speaker 1: We did collabs after that, and then finally actually met
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  Speaker 1: in person maybe two years later and started playing shows together,
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  Speaker 1: and that's how all of this kind of came to be.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell me burn when when you put that challenge up?
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  Speaker 4: And he said, what I do when you did that?
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  Speaker 4: How much thought went into that, Like you did you
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  Speaker 4: think it through and think what possibly happened when he
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  Speaker 4: got to that and I've already buy it absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I thought a lot about that because it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of a bit of a palsy thing to do,
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  Speaker 2: because if there's no response to a videos like this,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of weird, Like if you put out something
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  Speaker 2: like that and challenge someone, because I didn't, some people
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  Speaker 2: think stuff like this is very staged and you already
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  Speaker 2: reached out and you already planned the video, it's maybe
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  Speaker 2: already recorded, and then you do the big drama video
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  Speaker 2: where you actually challenge the other YouTuber or musician. But
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  Speaker 2: that was really just the only thing that I did
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  Speaker 2: because I thought, maybe that's an interesting way of trying it.
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  Speaker 2: Because if you send someone like Charles at DM, he
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  Speaker 2: has a lot of followers on Instagram, he probably won't
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  Speaker 2: see it. If it doesn't follow me. If I send
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  Speaker 2: him an email, he might not see it. So I thought,
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  Speaker 2: that's my one shot to kind of make an almost
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  Speaker 2: controversial looking drama thumbnail and hopefully get him to click
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  Speaker 2: on it. And it actually worked. It took a while,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't on the same day it took I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: almost a week or at least four or five days,
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  Speaker 2: or I kind of gave up hope already. But it
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  Speaker 2: was cool to see because I did put some thought
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  Speaker 2: into it, because I wanted it to look kind of dramatic.
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  Speaker 2: But on the same side, I'm not really a fan
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  Speaker 2: of YouTube drama stuff, so I also wanted it to
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  Speaker 2: be very friendly because I was a big fan of
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  Speaker 2: what Charles was doing. So it looks like I did
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  Speaker 2: it correctly. I think it could have also gone wrong,
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  Speaker 2: like if the video also had a psychastic undertone, and
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  Speaker 2: if it would have been unfriendly, I don't think Els
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  Speaker 2: would have been happy to work with me. For example,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to mess it up.
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  Speaker 4: Chells, your honest when you first saw that childs when
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  Speaker 4: you wake come first, So I like, was your first
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  Speaker 4: sort like why the hell does this guy think is?
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  Speaker 3: Or did you? Did you well?
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  Speaker 1: When I saw the title and thumbnail, I thought I
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  Speaker 1: thought I'd done something wrong. I didn't. I couldn't remember
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  Speaker 1: doing anything wrong, but I thought like maybe I'd accidentally
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  Speaker 1: copied one of his songs or something, you know. But
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  Speaker 1: then pretty quickly when I opened the video, I realized
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  Speaker 1: it was just yeah, some good old fashioned pretend drama,
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  Speaker 1: which was nice.
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  Speaker 4: That's like you say, that's a very ballsy thing to do, bro,
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  Speaker 4: but good only that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I never did that again. Was the first and only time.
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  Speaker 3: It probably would work as well the next time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, people, people already figured out that I'm kind of
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  Speaker 2: the nice person.
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  Speaker 3: That now.
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  Speaker 4: It's just pretty obviously you are both excellent what you
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  Speaker 4: do individually, But coming together and getting your music to
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  Speaker 4: blend in well together?
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  Speaker 3: Was that difficult at first?
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  Speaker 1: Uh No, it's actually very easy, which is actually surprising. Normally,
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  Speaker 1: when I try to collab with someone like Burns who's
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  Speaker 1: really good at their instrument, it's quite common that like
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  Speaker 1: they kind of want to be the focus all the
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  Speaker 1: time and so there that makes it really hard for
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  Speaker 1: me to really put across anything, especially since guitar is
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  Speaker 1: just in the register that's it draws your ear more.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like the lead instrument more of the time,
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  Speaker 1: especially if it's playing really busy stuff all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So playing Yeah, when Burns and I first played together,
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  Speaker 1: it clicked almost immediately, partly because we we'd arranged the
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  Speaker 1: songs in a way that each of us get a
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  Speaker 1: lot of space, so Burn doesn't just play the lead
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  Speaker 1: all the time. Even if I'm playing a lead part,
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  Speaker 1: he plays an accompanying part, which not not all really
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  Speaker 1: good guitarists have that ability as well. Yeah, exactly, But
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  Speaker 1: also just because Burnt practices so much, he already knew
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  Speaker 1: all the parts perfectly, so the first time we played
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  Speaker 1: together in person, it sounded good almost immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like one of my favorite things that
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  Speaker 2: we do is we have some songs that we worked
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  Speaker 2: on together, where Charles usually sends me the main idea
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  Speaker 2: a really cool tapping bassline most of the time that
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  Speaker 2: I can arrange something around. So we have that where
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  Speaker 2: it's a clear liberational effort. But we also play each
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  Speaker 2: other's songs live where Charles is adding some bass to
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  Speaker 2: my songs and I'm adding some guitar parts to his songs.
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  Speaker 2: And the cool thing is if you don't know, I think,
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  Speaker 2: if you're in the audience and you don't know which
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  Speaker 2: songs are written by which of us, and what songs
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  Speaker 2: are collaboration songs, you don't really hear a big difference,
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  Speaker 2: which is kind of cool, I think, because that was
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  Speaker 2: my fear at the start with my songs because they
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  Speaker 2: are quite busy here and there, and I didn't really
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  Speaker 2: write them to be like full band pieces. But Charles
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  Speaker 2: just finds really great ways of either harmonizing or adding
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  Speaker 2: something completely new that I would have never thought of
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  Speaker 2: because my bass parts are not that great. I think
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  Speaker 2: like a guitar player, so I always put a lot
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  Speaker 2: of thought and effort into the guitar stuff and try
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  Speaker 2: to make it perfect, and then I don't have enough
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  Speaker 2: brains bass left anymore at the end of the session,
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  Speaker 2: and that just program a little bit of bass. So
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even see the potential with a lot of
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  Speaker 2: these songs. And for these tours. We also have amazing
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  Speaker 2: drummers all the time, which is also something that mostly
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  Speaker 2: when when we make music together, we program the drums,
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  Speaker 2: so I be more and more how great it is
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  Speaker 2: to have experts at at their instrument contribute to the
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  Speaker 2: arrangements so that everyone can really focus on what we
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  Speaker 2: do best. And I'm not the best bass player for sure,
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  Speaker 2: so it sounds sounds really, really, really cool and much
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  Speaker 2: much better now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'll have to ask you this question individually, guys,
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  Speaker 4: but most musicians they're happy just to learn the guitar
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  Speaker 4: or just to learn the bass, you know, and get
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  Speaker 4: by doing it. But you guys have gone one hundred
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  Speaker 4: steps further, like you've excelled at what you do. Like
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  Speaker 4: what what drove you to want to just be better
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  Speaker 4: than just to play?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I should want to be something more.
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  Speaker 1: For me, it's mostly it mostly started out just that
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  Speaker 1: the bassis who interested me the most were the ones
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  Speaker 1: doing all the crazy stuff. So it started out with
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  Speaker 1: like people like Cliff Burton and Flee. So they both,
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  Speaker 1: especially Cliff, they play in a way that's not conventional,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and it's pretty virtuosick. They're doing crazy acrobatic
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  Speaker 1: stuff on the base and that's just always interested me
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  Speaker 1: from an early age. One of the first like amazing
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  Speaker 1: musical experiences I had was watching the solo in one
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  Speaker 1: by Metallica, the tapping solo, which at the time I
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  Speaker 1: thought was like impossible, you know, it just looked so
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  Speaker 1: fast and sounded so cool, and so I've always wanted
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  Speaker 1: to play that kind of stuff like more, yeah, more,
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  Speaker 1: just virtuosic, acrobatic, And I really enjoy the process of
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  Speaker 1: just pushing the limits more and more and more, and
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  Speaker 1: I probably will never stop unless I like get an
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  Speaker 1: injury or something, which I really hope I don't, but
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  Speaker 1: I think it's always more fun for me if it
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  Speaker 1: feels like there's always more to learn. I think if
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  Speaker 1: I ever start getting bored, if there's ever like a
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  Speaker 1: period where I feel burned out or bored, it's usually
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  Speaker 1: just because I can't I don't see the path forward
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know what it is I want to
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  Speaker 1: get better at. And so I'm always happiest when I'm
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  Speaker 1: like trying to figure out how to improve and I'm
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  Speaker 1: feeling myself improving.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, very cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, from me, it's very similar because it's what a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people I might remember. My father, for example,
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  Speaker 2: I'll asking me why I'm going to the conservatory to
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  Speaker 2: study guitar for four and a half years because I've
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  Speaker 2: already been playing for ten years, and it was like why,
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  Speaker 2: It's like you already know how to play guitar. So
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  Speaker 2: this is something that a lot of people don't really see.
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  Speaker 2: The better you get and the harder you work, the
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  Speaker 2: more you actually see I guess it's the same old thing.
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  Speaker 2: The more you know, the kind of less you'll actually
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  Speaker 2: know because you'll just hear so many different things in
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  Speaker 2: your own playing, and you listen to music in a
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  Speaker 2: completely different way. The better you get at your instrument,
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  Speaker 2: and you always hear things that are interesting and that
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  Speaker 2: you maybe can do. For example, when I listen to
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  Speaker 2: a fusion record, I'm not a fusion guitar player. I
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  Speaker 2: always pick up some stuff and I hear something that's
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  Speaker 2: very interesting to me that I then want to learn
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  Speaker 2: from my own stuff. So there's not really a finish
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  Speaker 2: line at all, and there's always something left to learn.
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  Speaker 2: And especially if you go and play live on stage,
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  Speaker 2: if you do a one and a half hour or
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  Speaker 2: three hour set, even you will never walk off stage
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  Speaker 2: thinking I played every single note perfectly. This was the
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  Speaker 2: perfect show. It could not have been any better. There
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  Speaker 2: will always be something that you want to improve. It's
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  Speaker 2: just that the definition changes over time. So after like
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  Speaker 2: your first shows, you might have played a part in
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  Speaker 2: the completely wrong key, or you forgot a riff and
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  Speaker 2: it was really embarrassing, and that might be a major mistake.
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  Speaker 2: And at this point where we are at right now,
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  Speaker 2: a mistake is something a bit different, where you might
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  Speaker 2: play a part and it's rushing or dragging a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: or you're not happy with the dynamics, or you played
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  Speaker 2: something that's a bit improvised and you'll after that feel
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  Speaker 2: like I could have come up with something a little
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  Speaker 2: bit better. So not necessarily stuff where the audience can
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  Speaker 2: notice a huge mistake or something, but there's always something
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  Speaker 2: you feel like you could have done better. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that's not really bad. Some people see that there's
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  Speaker 2: a bad thing. I actually think that's cool because it
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  Speaker 2: would be said to kind of reach finish points or
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  Speaker 2: the goal with your instrument and then you're done. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of cool that there's a lifelong journey and that
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  Speaker 2: you're never fully satisfied. I think it's actually pretty cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, said Mane. Now lovely, one last thing, guys, like,
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  Speaker 4: what's each of yours signature moves on your guitar? And
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  Speaker 4: by should whatably be saying in Australia.
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  Speaker 1: I would say the thing people usually associate me with
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  Speaker 1: on bas is tapping, and there's definitely going to be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of that in the show in Australia. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but there's also gonna I'm gonna be outside of my
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  Speaker 1: comfort zone sometimes too, because Burnt sometimes forces me to
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  Speaker 1: play with a pick just so that he can then
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  Speaker 1: show how much better he is at playing with a pick. That, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there might be a point where I have to play
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: with a pick as well.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, it's mostly different picking techniques. Those are
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of those kind of videos
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: went viral on my channels because I really like to
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: dissect picking techniques and play around with a lot of
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: different techniques and even make up some of my own
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: kind of There's a thing called modular picking that I
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: like to do that I'm not saying I completely invented
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: or I'm the first guy to think about it. It's
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: just that I came up with this kind of approach
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: as a kid, and I didn't really see it anywhere
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: else where. It's essentially a combination of three picking and
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: economy picking and just different picking approaches, and that sometimes
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I talk about it a little bit on stage as well,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: because I always assume that this is as interesting for
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: other people as it is for me. So it's mostly
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: about different interesting picking pig with me, like alternate picking,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: sweet picking, economy picking, but modular picking stuff, hybrid picking
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: and all of that. But there will be some of
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that for sure.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Nice I just sld a little white lie before I've
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: got one more question for you guys. I just want
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: to reiterate something that you said before, because I know
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of people out there that think of
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: bass and guitar and just think it's gonna drag on
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: a little bit and it could be too much in
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: a concert just having those instruments. But yours isn't all
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: encompassing show, Isn't it so not just play play for
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: two and a half hours and nothing else goes on?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: It's actually more of the NY Time, it's spectacle.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. So we've got of course, we have a
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: full lighting show, including a led wall with which has
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: cool visuals, but also we play videos on there sometimes
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: which like kind of sync up with the song we're
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: about to play. But then between songs, yeah, there's a
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: lot of banter and kind of almost stand up comedy
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: and also just a lot of the kind of on
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: both our channels, we do all these like crazy challenges
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you know, where we'll like play that. I have one
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: where I took three of the strings off my bass
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: so I only have one string and I play a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: bass solo with one string and it's the same. You know,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Burnt does these challenges too, and so since people know
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: us from YouTube mostly we have these sorts of challenges
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: but live, which really puts the pressure up quite a
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: lot because you've actually got to try and pull this
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: stuff off live. So there's challenges. There's like the comedy elements,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: there's the we use the led wall to kind of
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: like show the stories of our channels and how we
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: ended up meeting and stuff like that. So it's a
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: pretty immersive experience that is not just about the music.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: And also keep in mind that we've got the Omnific
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: opening for us too, which is going to be very cool,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and there will be a point where I think all
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of us will be playing together, me, Burns and the Omnific.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: So there'll be three basses, one guitar and one drums,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: which is I think the appropriate setup for the ultimate band.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: You're what's going on.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I've never heard three bass players at the same time,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: so I'm a bit scared of for the audience, not
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: for me, because I'm playing India monitoring and I only
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: have myself in my in ears, so I will be fine.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Well, thanks very much for your time. It's been a pleasure.
• 23:46
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• 23:49
  Speaker 4: dates starting in Brisbane, type of thirty first I believe
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: they're still tickets avaiable, but if you want to be better,
• 23:54
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• 23:57
  Speaker 4: want me.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Thanks for coming, Thank you,