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Polling The Next Generation (This Is Scary) · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Speaker 1: I've as much as I look forward to my monthly
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  Speaker 1: visits with this smart, intuitive, analytical, insightful young man. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I'm ready for what we're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about today. Justin Haskins joins us here in the
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  Speaker 1: third hour of the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Justin,
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  Speaker 1: how are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I would be doing better if you
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  Speaker 2: had thrown in handsome in there too. Well.
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  Speaker 1: We're radio, brother, dude, We're radio.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only way I can get away with it.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I quit television years ago. I quit television
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  Speaker 1: when high def cameras came into the studio. Justin, let's
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  Speaker 1: start here. And for those of you that do not know,
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  Speaker 1: Senior fellow, the Heartland Institute heads up the Stopping Socialism
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  Speaker 1: website and the project, and that's the goal to stop socialism. Justin,
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  Speaker 1: is there any good news before we unpack the bad
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  Speaker 1: news in this polling that was done that Rasmussen did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one piece of good news I think in
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  Speaker 2: the poll. It's hard to find, but there is some
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  Speaker 2: good news in the poll. I wrote this poll with
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  Speaker 2: Rasmussen as part of our Stopping Socialism project. Heartlin Institute,
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  Speaker 2: and the reason I did it was because I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to know what young people eighteen to thirty nine in America,
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  Speaker 2: what they're thinking about socialism, authoritarianism, not just politicians, but
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  Speaker 2: the policies themselves, And so that was the idea behind
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  Speaker 2: this poll. We asked all kinds of interesting questions and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get into those, I'm sure soon here.
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  Speaker 2: But the one piece of good news, let's start there,
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  Speaker 2: and then we can we can focus on the bad stuff.
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  Speaker 2: The one piece of good news is that among eighteen
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  Speaker 2: to thirty nine year olds, Donald Trump's approval rating was
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  Speaker 2: forty eight percent, which is very, very high for eighteen
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  Speaker 2: to thirty nine year olds. That is not common. And
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  Speaker 2: there's a reason for that, because you're the rest of
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  Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about is very bad news.
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  Speaker 2: But so a lot of people are going to be thinking, well,
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  Speaker 2: how could that possibly be? There is a reason why
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  Speaker 2: I think the approval rating is high. Yet, as you'll
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  Speaker 2: see the results for the rest of the poll show,
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  Speaker 2: young Americans are quickly turning to socialism and authoritarian policies,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of conservatives I don't think are paying
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  Speaker 2: attention to it.
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  Speaker 1: In your mind, how did it happen? I mean, before
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  Speaker 1: we start analyzing the evidence, how did we get to
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  Speaker 1: where we are? Do you think? I?
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  Speaker 2: Well, boy, I mean, there's so many ways that, so
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  Speaker 2: many contributing factors. There's obviously the school system is a
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  Speaker 2: huge part of it. The media is a gigantic part
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  Speaker 2: of it. But I think the biggest reason why younger
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  Speaker 2: people are turning to socialism and the poll reflects this
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  Speaker 2: because one of the things we're trying to do is
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  Speaker 2: not just find out if people are socialists and what
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  Speaker 2: their policies their policy views is, but also why what's
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  Speaker 2: going on in their lives, and so the poll results
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  Speaker 2: show this. I think younger people feel like the system,
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  Speaker 2: the political system, the economic system especially, is completely rigged
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  Speaker 2: against them in a way that is not in their favor.
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  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of older people don't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: understand that that's how a lot of young people so,
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  Speaker 2: or they don't sympathize with it. But I think there
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  Speaker 2: is some truth to that, and I think conservatives need
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  Speaker 2: to understand just how bad it is in some ways
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  Speaker 2: for young people. It's very very good in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of ways for young people, but there are certain if
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  Speaker 2: you want to build wealth. To the young person today
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  Speaker 2: and you want to be really successful in life, and
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  Speaker 2: you want to start your own business and buy a
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  Speaker 2: house and do those kinds of things, it is extremely hard,
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  Speaker 2: much harder than it was for people, say thirty or
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  Speaker 2: forty years ago. And I think the poll results reflect that.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think your analysis of
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  Speaker 1: it is spot on. But I also think some of
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  Speaker 1: this goes back to my long standing complaint with Conservatives
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  Speaker 1: and Republicans in general as a party in not messaging properly.
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  Speaker 1: They want to win campaigns, they want to win elections,
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  Speaker 1: they don't want to win hearts and minds. And I
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  Speaker 1: think we're seeing the fruit of it. I've been yelling
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  Speaker 1: this for the twenty three years I've been doing this
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  Speaker 1: show with me Justin Haskins. He authored set of poll
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  Speaker 1: questions and Rasmussen work together with them at the Heartland
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  Speaker 1: Institute to determine what the thinking was of voters under
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  Speaker 1: forty Justin go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's so many questions that we could go through,
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  Speaker 2: so I'll just try to highlight the most important ones.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone who's interested, you can go to Heartland dot org.
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  Speaker 2: You can see all the questions there. So one of
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  Speaker 2: the first big questions we ask is would you like
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  Speaker 2: to see a democratic socialist candidate in the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: eight presidential election? Okay, And of the voters eighteen to
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  Speaker 2: thirty nine, twelve hundred likely voters by the way, so
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  Speaker 2: these are people who are registered say that they are
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  Speaker 2: going to vote in the next election, fifty three percent
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  Speaker 2: said yes, they do want to see a democratic socialist
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  Speaker 2: president in twenty twenty eight. And that includes thirty five
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  Speaker 2: percent of the people who said that they wanted to
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  Speaker 2: vote for who so said that they had voted for
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  Speaker 2: Trump in twenty twenty four. So among Trump voters, thirty
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  Speaker 2: five percent said yes, I do want socialism. Forty three
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  Speaker 2: percent of people identified as conservatives said that they wanted
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  Speaker 2: a democratic socialist president, forty seven percent of moderates, and
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  Speaker 2: like eighty percent or so of Democrats said that. So
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  Speaker 2: lots and lots and lots of support for a socialist
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  Speaker 2: presidential candidate in twenty twenty eight. Even among the people
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  Speaker 2: who say that they're conservative.
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  Speaker 1: How is that possible? I mean no, I mean how
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  Speaker 1: how is it possible that someone can think their conservative
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  Speaker 1: and then walk away supporting socialist ideals. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: point to what Trump has done in suggesting that the
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  Speaker 1: Defense Department start buying up contractors and investing ten percent
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  Speaker 1: in Intel. I can't believe we're doing this stuff, But
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is it that.
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  Speaker 2: Well? I think that for a long time there's been
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  Speaker 2: a problem with younger people not really understanding what these
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  Speaker 2: words mean. And I think their idea of socialis is
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily I don't think they necessarily understand totally what
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  Speaker 2: socialism is, although we're going to find out later on
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  Speaker 2: they do supports a lot of socialist policies. But I
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  Speaker 2: think that there were a lot of younger people who
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  Speaker 2: identify as conservatives because maybe they're more conservative on social
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  Speaker 2: issues or on like personal liberty issues or something, but
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  Speaker 2: economically they're not. But they wouldn't call themselves a liberal
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  Speaker 2: because to be a liberal means to support all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of things today that being a liberal in nineteen ninety five,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you didn't necessarily had to sign up for
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  Speaker 2: right right, And so the tent, the big tent thing
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  Speaker 2: has it's totally changed. Conservatives are the big tent group now,
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  Speaker 2: and I think there are a lot of young people.
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  Speaker 2: That's one of the things so we asked those same
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  Speaker 2: people who said yes to the question, just the people
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  Speaker 2: who said yes, I do want the Democratic Socialist president
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. We gave a bunch of options and
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  Speaker 2: we said, among these options, what is the biggest reason
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  Speaker 2: why you want to vote for a socialist? And the
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  Speaker 2: number one response we got thirty one percent of them.
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  Speaker 2: This was by far. The number one response was how'sing
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  Speaker 2: costs are too high? That's thirty one percent. The next one,
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  Speaker 2: the next most popular answer was the economy unfairly benefits older,
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  Speaker 2: wealthier Americans unfairly. The next one was that was seventeen percent.
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  Speaker 2: The next one was the economy unfairly benefits large corporations.
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  Speaker 2: That was fifteen percent. Those were by far the three
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  Speaker 2: biggest answers. So when you add them all up, that's
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  Speaker 2: over sixty percent of the respondents said housing costs are
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  Speaker 2: too high? Where the economy unfairly benefits older, wealthier people
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  Speaker 2: or big corporations. So this is a theme that you're
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  Speaker 2: going to see throughout all of the poll questions. You're
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  Speaker 2: going to find all kinds. We asked later on, do
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  Speaker 2: you think the economy is unfair to young people and
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  Speaker 2: over sixty percent of them said yes, it is unfair
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  Speaker 2: to young people. And so what's happening is there is
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  Speaker 2: this perception among young Americans that the economy is rigged,
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  Speaker 2: it's not fair, and then it's holding them back personally.
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  Speaker 2: And because it's holding them back, they want to vote
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  Speaker 2: for someone who's going to blow the system up. They
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  Speaker 2: just want to blow the system up. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's why there were a lot of people who said
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  Speaker 2: yes to Trump, because Trump is the anti elite candidate,
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  Speaker 2: the ultimate anti elite candidate. The elites are literally trying
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  Speaker 2: to throw him in jail, and I think they looked
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  Speaker 2: at that and they said, this guy is not part
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  Speaker 2: of them. I know that because they're trying to put
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  Speaker 2: him in jail, and he just got shot in the
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  Speaker 2: head and they still want to put him in jail.
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  Speaker 2: So this is this is this is my guy. And
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of young people who hated him,
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  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of young people who saw that
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  Speaker 2: and said, yeah, this is this guy is not part
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  Speaker 2: of that other group. But I don't think that they
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  Speaker 2: were supporting him for the policies.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty won I was twenty two minutes past the hour.
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  Speaker 1: I know we're kind of bumming you out. If you
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  Speaker 1: really want to get depressed, head to heartland dot org
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  Speaker 1: and read all of it, because it is it's not
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  Speaker 1: just it's a downer. It is unnerving that we have
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  Speaker 1: so many young people thinking this way. What stood out
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  Speaker 1: next to you as you started to go through the
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  Speaker 1: results and kind of quantify what you've long believed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hit some of the really crazy stuff so
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  Speaker 2: that people can understand why we're so disturbed. It's not
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  Speaker 2: just support for socialism. Three quarters of the people we asked,
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  Speaker 2: seventy six percent said that they agreed somewhat or strongly
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  Speaker 2: with the following statement, Major industries like healthcare, energy, and
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  Speaker 2: big tech should be nationalized. That means to be taken
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  Speaker 2: over by the federal government to give more control and
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  Speaker 2: equity to the people. That was, including the vast majority
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  Speaker 2: of conservatives, also said that they supported that. Over seventy
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  Speaker 2: percent have said that they supported that. We're talking about
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  Speaker 2: young people, young voters. Okay, Then, another really crazy question
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  Speaker 2: we asked about income caps. Would you support a law
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  Speaker 2: that imposes a maximum annual income cap for individuals? And
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  Speaker 2: then we gave a bunch of income ranges and some
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  Speaker 2: of them were pretty high, like ten million dollars, but
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  Speaker 2: if you add them all up, about sixty percent of
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  Speaker 2: young people said they do support an income cap for
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  Speaker 2: individual people. We asked if you should punish people legal,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with fines or other legal penalties, who refused
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  Speaker 2: to use other people's preferred gender pronouns, and we add
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of penalties in here. Seventeen percent said yes,
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  Speaker 2: a monetary fine, sixteen percent said yes, mandatory community service
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  Speaker 2: six percent said yes, jail time. Only forty eight percent
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  Speaker 2: said that they should not be penalized, so forty percent
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  Speaker 2: said some kind of criminal penalty for saying something. And
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  Speaker 2: then the worst one of them all, I think, And
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  Speaker 2: there are plenty of other interesting results in the poll
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  Speaker 2: that we don't have time to go over, but the
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  Speaker 2: worst one of them all was would you support a
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  Speaker 2: proposal for a new constitutional amendment that would give the
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  Speaker 2: United Nations the authority to oversee the Supreme Court and
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  Speaker 2: presidency to ensure that Americans' rights are being protected? Fifty
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  Speaker 2: nine percent of young people said yes. They want to
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  Speaker 2: give the United Nations control over the president and the
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  Speaker 2: Supreme Court. I mean, these people are going to be
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  Speaker 2: the primary voting block in ten to twenty years. And
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  Speaker 2: so think about what that means for the future of
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  Speaker 2: the country. When over half want a socialist president of
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  Speaker 2: young people, over half want the United Nations in control
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  Speaker 2: of the United States. Forty percent of them are talking
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  Speaker 2: about throwing people in jail for saying things not using
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  Speaker 2: the right gender pronoun. You know, something like sixty percent
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  Speaker 2: want in personal income caps, seventy five percent want to
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  Speaker 2: nationalize whole industries. This is what's coming, people, this is
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  Speaker 2: what's coming if we don't turn this around soon.
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you my first immediate reaction to what
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  Speaker 1: you just shared and what I had read in the
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  Speaker 1: information you sent me justin and I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 1: be funny in any way, shape or form. People know,
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  Speaker 1: I see the Book of Revelation.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard not to see absolute catastrophe the coming. That's
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  Speaker 2: what it's hard not to see. And the truth is this,
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  Speaker 2: if America collapses, what was the next largest, important, powerful,
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  Speaker 2: wealthy country that's going to step up to the play
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  Speaker 2: and be a defender of freedom and personal liberty around
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  Speaker 2: the world.
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  Speaker 1: There is one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know of any large ones.
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  Speaker 1: Well, because I mean, as you were reading some of
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  Speaker 1: the stuff on you know, sending people to jail, finding
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  Speaker 1: them and so forth for using the wrong gender pronouns.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh cool, let me buy you a ticket
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  Speaker 1: to England. Head on over.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. They already do this in Germany. They already
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  Speaker 2: do this in England. They already do this in places
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  Speaker 2: where I mean, the United Kingdom historically is the next
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  Speaker 2: closest thing to the United States when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: personal rights, and they don't have those anymore. That's dying
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  Speaker 2: now and paying attention to what's going over there, knows
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  Speaker 2: that no one else.
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  Speaker 1: And the country is being taken over by Islamis. They've
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  Speaker 1: got Sharia courts popping up throughout the country. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they've they've sealed their fate over there, without.
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  Speaker 2: A without a doubt. I mean, and much of Europe
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  Speaker 2: is in the same and this is in the same boat.
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  Speaker 2: And so in Europe you're faced with either radical Islamicism
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  Speaker 2: on the one hand, or you know, this radical progressivensm
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  Speaker 2: on the other hand, where you want to control everything,
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  Speaker 2: and then you got these socialists who are also in
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  Speaker 2: the mix. It's a horrible place to be if you
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  Speaker 2: support individual freedom. So there's nobody else. To go back
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  Speaker 2: to your book of revelation point, there's nobody else. There's
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  Speaker 2: no one else. Everyone is that the world is descending
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  Speaker 2: into you know, we saw I think as a I
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  Speaker 2: think over the last fifty sixty years, Americans felt like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, things are turning. The world is getting freer,
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  Speaker 2: individual liberty is becoming, you know, more popular than ever.
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  Speaker 2: And I just think that we are now reverting back
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  Speaker 2: to an earlier time when that isn't the case, except
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  Speaker 2: now you don't even have America. Now you have America
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  Speaker 2: descending into this kind of madness as well. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that conservatives Republicans, I don't think are spending
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  Speaker 2: the time they need to to win over younger people,
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  Speaker 2: and the left has been they see, they have been
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  Speaker 2: doing it and it's paying off now and it's been
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  Speaker 2: a disaster for them in recent elections because a lot
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  Speaker 2: of regular people don't like it, but older regular people.
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  Speaker 2: But that's changing.
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  Speaker 1: They're playing the long game as they always have.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Justin thank you as always, appreciate your time, Thanks pressing,
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  Speaker 1: Take care