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- 0:02Speaker 1: Welcome to the reading of the Washington Post for to
- 0:05day thirty February thirteen, twenty twenty five. As a reminder,
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- 0:17to read preded material. Your reader for today is Mark Webster.
- 0:24Today's line front page headlines from the Washington Post are six. First,
- 0:31Trump talking to Putin launches bid in war. Second is
- 0:37rarely strike to Iran likely, says U S intelligence. Third
- 0:42amongst drill instructors, a rising pattern of suicide. Marine drill
- 0:47instructors often face breaking points. Fourth, White House shuts by
- 0:52out window after legal win. Fifth President is installed as
- 0:58Kennedy Center chair. And six and last firings began as
- 1:03Musk team works to trim civilian ranks. The first one
- 1:09Trump has called has call with Putin kickstarting bid in
- 1:13Russia's war in Ukraine. Following the call, Trump focused heavily
- 1:18on the terms that Russia cares most about, and he
- 1:21appeared to rule out NATAL membership for Ukraine while placing
- 1:25the bulk of the burden for defending it on Europe.
- 1:28There's a photograph of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin shaking
- 1:32hands back at a twenty eighteen news conference. Here is
- 1:36the article. President Donald Trump spoke by phone on Wednesday
- 1:41to Russian President Vladimir Putin, in their first publicized call
- 1:46since Trump returned to the White House, breaking a year's
- 1:49long silence between the Oval Office and the Kremlin. As
- 1:52US leader kicked off a bid in Russia's war in Ukraine.
- 1:58Trump had one words for the Russian leader, who has
- 2:00ruled Russia for twenty five years and has repeatedly invaded
- 2:04neighboring nations and killed, imprisoned, or exiled his most formidable opposition,
- 2:11as he declared that the two men would visit each
- 2:14other's countries and quote agreed to work together very closely unquote. Trump,
- 2:21who also spoke with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky later in
- 2:25the day, said he and Putin would probably meet without
- 2:28Zelensky in Saudi Arabia quote in the not too distant future.
- 2:32Closed the quote. Quote I think President Putin wants peace,
- 2:36and President Zelensky wants peace, and I want peace unquote,
- 2:40he told reporters in the Oval Office. Quote I just
- 2:43want to see people stop getting killed. We're very far
- 2:46away from that particular war, but that's a vicious war. Unquote.
- 2:51The call, which a kriminal said lasted nearly ninety minutes,
- 2:55illustrated the deepening alliance between Trump and Putin in ways
- 2:58that are likely to unsettle Zelensky. In offering the first
- 3:03outline of his vision for a piece deal, Trump focused
- 3:07heavily on the terms that Russia cares most about, and
- 3:11he appeared to rule out NATO membership for Ukraine while
- 3:15placing the bulk of the burden for defending it on Europe. Quote.
- 3:19I don't think it's practical to have it personally unquote,
- 3:22Trump said of Ukraine's efforts to join NATO. Quote they've
- 3:26been saying that for a long time that Ukraine cannot
- 3:29go into NATO, and I'm okay with that. I just
- 3:32want the war to end, whether they are or they
- 3:35or not. Close the quote. Trump's declarations offered major concessions
- 3:41to Putin even before the negotiation has formally begun. Putin
- 3:46has long sought to block Ukraine from NATO, and even
- 3:50if Trump had no intention of allowing Kiev into the alliance,
- 3:55he could have preserved the possibility as a bargaining ship.
- 3:58Putin also has wanted to negotiate about Ukraine's future directly
- 4:02with the US leader. Over Kiev's head Akup, Trump also
- 4:07appeared to hand him on Wednesday. Trump also said that
- 4:11he agreed with comments made earlier in the day by
- 4:14Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who told NATO allies that Ukraine's
- 4:18stated goal of reclaiming its full internationally recognized territory was
- 4:23quote unrealistic unquote. Trump has suggested he doesn't expect Ukraine
- 4:28to reclaim its full territory in the peace deal, but
- 4:32he has said and end to the fighting is more
- 4:34important than Ukraine's regaining all its land. Trump and his
- 4:38administration have not made clear precisely what they want Russia
- 4:42to do in any peace deal, but they acknowledge that
- 4:46Russia will be able to remain in at least some
- 4:48of the territory it is captured from Ukraine in exchange
- 4:52for halting the war. They say Ukraine will need security
- 4:56guarantees to give its stability and the incentive to set
- 4:59down in its arms, and they expect Europe to be
- 5:02responsible for the bulk of those guarantees. Trump declined several
- 5:07times to say what concessions he expected Russia to make
- 5:12after invading a neighboring country. Quote I'm not going to
- 5:15tell you my plan. I can tell you we've made
- 5:18a lot of progress unquote, he said, saying both sides
- 5:21are eager for the fighting to halt. Quote I think
- 5:24we'll probably end up at some point getting a ceasefire
- 5:27in the not too distant future, closed the quote, he said.
- 5:31In the highly charged choreography of diplomacy with an adversarial leader,
- 5:36the Trump Putin call was likely to upset Kiev since
- 5:39President Joe Biden made a mantra of coordinating closely with
- 5:43Ukrainian leaders before any contacts with Russian officials. This time,
- 5:48Trump spoke first to Putin and afterward called Zelensky to
- 5:53loop him in on the conversation. Trump and Zelensky met
- 5:57in Paris in December. Asked whether there was a risk
- 6:00of freezing Zelensky out of the conversations involving his own country,
- 6:05Trump responded, quote, no, I don't think so, unquote, but
- 6:09in a sign of potential peril for the Ukrainian president
- 6:12that backing from a major ally of softening, Trump then added, quote,
- 6:16as long as he's there, but at some point you're
- 6:19going to have to have elections too close the quote quote,
- 6:23you know, his poll numbers aren't particularly great, to put
- 6:26it mildly, unquote, Trump said. Trump added put in his
- 6:30long sought to have a direct negotiation with Washington about
- 6:34Ukraine's future, since he has argued that Ukraine is within
- 6:38Moscow's sphere of influence and that it has been used
- 6:41as a tool by NATO and the West, something Ukrainian leaders.
- 6:45Both leaders hotly say ignores their nation's desires to modernize
- 6:51and integrate more fully with Europe. The call came a
- 6:55day after Russia free to US citizen Mark Foegel, who
- 6:59had been in prison for three and a half years,
- 7:01into the custody of Steve Whitkoff, a close Trump friend,
- 7:05real estate developer and the US leader's Middle East envoy.
- 7:10Trump said he had asked Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
- 7:14CI Director John Ratcliffe, national security advisor Michael Waltz, and
- 7:19Whitcoff to lead the discussions. Notably absent from the list
- 7:23was the hawkish retired General Keith Kellogg, whom Trump appointed
- 7:28during the transition as his Special Envoy for Ukraine and
- 7:32Russia and who has been working on a peace plan.
- 7:35Both Kellogg and Vice President j. D. Vance are headed
- 7:39to Munich this week to meet with senior European policymakers
- 7:43about the peace efforts. Quote. As for General Kellogg, he
- 7:47remains a critical part of this team in this effort,
- 7:51White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said, quote. He's playing
- 7:56a tremendous role in getting the negotiations to this point
- 7:59and is very much still part of the Trump administration.
- 8:02Closed the quote. Kremlin's spokesman Dmitri Peskov told reporters that
- 8:07Putin quote mentioned the need to eliminate the root cause
- 8:10of the conflict and agreed with Trump that a long
- 8:13term settlement can be achieved through peaceful negotiations. The Russian
- 8:18president also supported one of the main theses of the
- 8:22American has a state that the time has come for
- 8:24our countries to work together. Close the quote. Zelensky posted
- 8:29a statement on his telegram account confirming the conversation with Trump,
- 8:33which he said focused on achieving peace, technological capabilities, including
- 8:38drone news, and the two nations ability to work together. Quote.
- 8:42President Trump informed me of the details of this conversation
- 8:45with Putin. Unquote, Zelensky wrote, adding that he was quote
- 8:48grateful unquote for the call. Quote. Ukraine wants peace more
- 8:52than anyone. We are defining our joint steps with America
- 8:55to stop Russian aggression and guarantee a reliable, lasting peace.
- 9:00As President Trump said, let's get it done. Close the quote,
- 9:04but further pressurizing Vilensky. Trump noted later in the day
- 9:08that Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant was en route to Kiev
- 9:13to try to secure sources of repayment of money the
- 9:16United States has provided in the Ukraine's war effort. Quote.
- 9:20He's going there to get a document done where we're
- 9:22going to be assured that we're going in some form
- 9:26to get this money back. Unquote, he said, quote because
- 9:29we're putting up more money than Europe, and Europe is
- 9:32in far more danger than we are. Closed the quote.
- 9:35He said they will ask for natural resources such as
- 9:38rare earth metals, oil, and gas to secure against the
- 9:41hundreds of billions in funding. Trump has demanded that Putin
- 9:46put an end to the war, which started in February
- 9:49twenty twenty two when Russia invaded Ukraine without provocation, but
- 9:54Trump has offered few concrete indications about how he would
- 9:58foster a breakthrough, and some world leaders are worried he
- 10:02could push Kiev into a deal that would simply give
- 10:05Russia time to rest, rearm, and re invade. In his
- 10:10first term, Trump often had sharper words for Washington's friends
- 10:14then for his foes, and at a twenty eighteen meeting
- 10:17with Putin, he sided with the Russian leader over US
- 10:20intelligence agencies claimed that the Kremlin tried to sway the
- 10:24twenty sixteen election. During the twenty twenty four campaign, Trump
- 10:28declared he would end the Ukraine War in less than
- 10:30twenty four hours, worrying Kiev that he would do so
- 10:34on Putin's terms. Wenday's phone call marks an important breakthrough
- 10:39for Putin, ending nearly three years of near isolation from
- 10:43Western leaders imposed by the Biden administration. The last time
- 10:50Putin met a US president was at a summit in
- 10:53Geneva with Biden in June twenty twenty one, eight months
- 10:57before the Russian leader's invasion of Ukraine. Biden engaged in
- 11:01a furry of calls with Putin in late twenty twenty
- 11:03one and early twenty twenty two, attempting to dissuade him
- 11:07from invading. At a time when Russia insistently denied plans
- 11:11to do so, but there has been silence since Trump said.
- 11:16Putin also spoke in November, shortly after Trump's election victory,
- 11:23according to people familiar with the call, who at the
- 11:26time spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a
- 11:29sensitive matter. During the conversation, Trump warned Putin not to
- 11:33escalate the war in Ukraine. The Krimlin later denied that
- 11:36the call took place. Since he took office January twenty,
- 11:41Trump has repeatedly been evasive about his contact with Putin
- 11:45when pressed by reporters, refusing to make clear whether he
- 11:48has he had spoken to Putin since his inauguration. The
- 11:53reasons have been unclear. Quote. I don't want to talk
- 11:56about it. If we are talking, unquote, he told reporters
- 11:59on Air Force One on Sunday. Quote I don't want
- 12:02to tell you about our conversation. It's too early, but
- 12:05I do believe we're making progress. Close the quote. Putin
- 12:09recently told a Russian journalist that he was ready to engage,
- 12:13echoing Trump's false allegations that the twenty twenty election was
- 12:17rigged and claiming that he might not have invaded Ukraine
- 12:20had Trump still been in the White House, then the
- 12:23comments seemed calculated to flatter Trump's ego. Quote I have
- 12:28always had a business like, at the same time pragmatic
- 12:31and trusting relationship with the current US president close the
- 12:34quote putin said quote, I cannot but agree with him
- 12:38that if he had been president, if he had not
- 12:41had his victory stolen from him in twenty twenty, then
- 12:44maybe there would not have been the crisis in Ukraine
- 12:47that emerged in twenty twenty two. We are ready for
- 12:51negotiations on Ukrainian issues, close the quote. In any peace deal,
- 12:56Trump is expected to support an agreement where Russia retains
- 12:59could control of some or all of the Ukrainian territory
- 13:03it has captured since twenty twenty two. Russia wants to
- 13:07lock Kiev out of the NATO Defense Alliance. Zelensky said
- 13:12last month that he would welcome negotiations on a peace
- 13:15deal so long as Ukraine has a full role in
- 13:18the talks. He said that he had quote good meetings
- 13:21unquote with Trump in recent months and that he supports
- 13:24the effort to reach peace. Quote I'm confident he has
- 13:29great chances unquote Selensky told reporters in Kiev. Quote, and
- 13:33we believe he can succeed, but this can only happen
- 13:36with Ukraine. Otherwise it simply won't work, because Russia does
- 13:40not want to end the war and Ukraine does close
- 13:43the quote. Any deal, according to Lawrence Friedman, Emeritus Professor
- 13:48of War Studies at King's College of London, would be
- 13:51judged on the extent to which it buttresses Ukraine's independence
- 13:56and sovereignty against potential Russian aggression in the future. Quote.
- 14:02While this war is about territory and its control, at
- 14:05the heart of the conflict is Russia's determination to deny
- 14:09Ukraine long term independence and security unquote, Friedman wrote in
- 14:13a recent analysis. Quote this sets the standard against which
- 14:17any eventual deal would be judged and the issues that
- 14:21will still have to be addressed if there is no
- 14:23deal unquote. Even if negotiators reached cease fire to prevent
- 14:28further bloodshed, a full peace deal would take much longer
- 14:31and might never be reached given the complexities of the issues.
- 14:35He wrote. While the phone call between Trump and Putin
- 14:40expected to pave the way for a face to face meeting,
- 14:43Russian officials have taken a maximalist approach on Ukraine peace talks,
- 14:48insisting on Putin's Putin's conditions for peace set down in June,
- 14:54including that Ukraine renounced plans to join NATO, recognize Russian
- 14:59sovereigntyal were five Ukrainian regions, including areas not occupied by Russia,
- 15:05and began a military withdrawal. Trump said there were no
- 15:09conditions set for a meeting with Putin. Quote we expected
- 15:12it'll come here and I'll go there, and we're going
- 15:15to meet also probably in Saudi Arabia, unquote, he said.
- 15:19Asked whether Zelenski would be included in this meeting in
- 15:22Saudi Arabia, he responded, quote probably. We'll have a first
- 15:26meeting and then we'll see what we can do about
- 15:28the second. Close the quote. That's the end of the article.
- 15:32Now we'll go to the second article. Israeli strike on
- 15:36Iran likely in coming months, warns US intelligence. A preemptive
- 15:42attack would set back Iran's nuclear program by mere weeks
- 15:45or months, but significantly escalate tensions across the Middle East.
- 15:49According to a US intelligence report, Israel is likely to
- 15:54attempt a strike on Iran's nuclear program in the coming months.
- 15:58In a preemptive attack that would set back Tehran's program
- 16:01by weeks or perhaps months, but escalate tensions across the
- 16:05Middle East and renew the prospect of a wider regional conflagration.
- 16:09According to US intelligence, the warnings about a potential Israeli
- 16:16strike are included in multiple intelligence reports spanning the end
- 16:21of the Biden administration and the beginning of the Trump's administration.
- 16:26More none more comprehensive than an early January report produced
- 16:31by the Intelligence Directorate of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
- 16:34and the Defense Intelligence Agency. The report warned that Israel
- 16:38is likely to attempt to strike on Iran's four doh
- 16:42and Naytan's nuclear facilities in the first six months of
- 16:46twenty twenty five. Current and former US officials familiar with
- 16:50the intelligence told The Washington Post that the finding derives
- 16:55from an analysis of Israel's planning following its bombing of
- 16:59Iran in late October, which degraded its air defenses and
- 17:02left Tehran exposed to a follow on assault. The officials
- 17:07spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss highly classified intelligence.
- 17:13The Israeli government, CIA, Defense Intelligence Agency, and Office of
- 17:18the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment. A spokesman
- 17:23for the White House National Security Council, Rian Hughes, said
- 17:26President Donald Trump quote has made it clear he will
- 17:30not permit Iran to get a nuclear weapon close the
- 17:33quote quote. While he prefers negotiating a resolution to America's
- 17:38long standing issues with the Iranian regime peacefully, he will
- 17:43not wait indefinitely if Iran isn't willing to deal, and
- 17:46soon close the quote, Hughes told the Post. Hughes declined
- 17:53to comment on the underlying intelligence. The prospect of illuming
- 17:57Israeli strike creates an early test for Trump, who campaigned
- 18:01on restoring peace and tempering the armed conflicts raging in
- 18:05the Middle East and Europe while also touting his staunch
- 18:08support for Israel. The military intelligence report spelled out two
- 18:13potential strike options, each involving the United States providing support
- 18:18in the form of aerial refueling as well as intelligence,
- 18:22surveillance and reconnaissance, said those familiar with the document. Such
- 18:27reliance on the United States in any strike on Iran,
- 18:31even one that yields only modest results, underscores Washington's leverage
- 18:36over Israel's path forward a distance attack known as a
- 18:41standoff strike would see Israeli aircraft firing air launched ballistic
- 18:46missiles or albms outside of Iranian airspace. The intelligence report
- 18:52said a more risky stand in attack would see Israeli
- 18:57jets inner Iranian airspace, flying near the new sites and
- 19:01dropping Blu one oh nine as a type of bunker buster.
- 19:05The Trump administration approved the sale of guidance kits for
- 19:08those bunker busters last week, and made a notification to
- 19:12Congress that it had done so. The US assessment found
- 19:17that an Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear facilities would have
- 19:21best set back its activities by months and potentially only
- 19:24by weeks, and current and former officials, said current and
- 19:28former officials. Any attack also would incentivize Iran to pursue
- 19:33weapons great enrichment of uranium, The officials said, a long
- 19:37standing redline for the United States and Israel. The six
- 19:42month time frame for a likely operation and details on
- 19:45the two potential strike scenarios have not been previously reported.
- 19:50The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday that Israel is considering
- 19:54a strike on Iran this year. Some Israeli officials disagree
- 19:59with US intelligence assessments on the anticipated impact of a
- 20:03strike on Iran's facilities, arguing that it could more substantially
- 20:07set back to Tehran's capabilities. Quote that was a difference
- 20:11between our intelligence and their assessment unquote, set a former
- 20:15US official. The revelation coincides with a robust debate within
- 20:21the Trump administration about the proper application of military power
- 20:25in the Middle East. Trump has surrounded himself with an
- 20:29ideologically diverse national security team, including foreign policy hawks such
- 20:35as National Security Advisor Michael Waltson, Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
- 20:40advocates of military restraint, including Vice President j. D. Vance
- 20:44and Director of National Intelligence Tulsey Gabbertt end quote prioritizers
- 20:49unquote such as Elbridge Colby, who seek to reorient US
- 20:54military resources in East Asia to counter China. In late January,
- 21:01Waltz raised the prospect of a US support at Israeli
- 21:04strike on Iran's nuclear program, telling CBS News that quote,
- 21:09this is a moment to take those to make those
- 21:12key decisions, and we'll be doing that over the next month.
- 21:15Close the quote. Quote Iran is on its back foot,
- 21:18quote he told quote Face the Nation unquote hosts Margaret
- 21:22Brennan quote Iran's air defense is Iran's air defenses are destroyed.
- 21:30Like that's the end. Whoops, there's more. Trump earlier this
- 21:33week alluded to a growing awareness of Israel's interest in
- 21:38a strike. Quote everyone thinks Israel, with our help or
- 21:42our approval, will go in and bomb the hell out
- 21:44of him. I would prefer that not happened unquote, Trump
- 21:47told Fox News. Quote there's two ways to stopping them,
- 21:52with bombs or a written piece of paper unquote. Trump added, quote,
- 21:56I would love to make a deal with them without
- 21:58bombing them. Close the quote. Trump's comments, which followed his
- 22:03reapossession of quote maximum pressure unquote on Iran, aimed at
- 22:08reducing it's all experts down to zero to achieve a
- 22:12nuclear deal, angered leaders in Tehran. Quote These reckless and
- 22:18inflammatory statements flaquently violate international law, which prohibits threats or
- 22:24use of force against sovereign states, unquote, said Iran's ambassador
- 22:28to the United Nations, said Trevani said Iravani Middle East
- 22:34policy is one of the more contentious topics within the
- 22:38Trump coalition, which includes pro Israeli hawks and skeptics of
- 22:42military intervention. The neo conservative wing of the Republican Party
- 22:50intent on a sustained US military presence in the Middle
- 22:53East through arms exports to Israel, agreements for military bases
- 22:58in Persian Gulf countries, and extensive naval rotations in the
- 23:02Mediterranean Sea. Has waged anonymous, whispered campaigns against Trump appointees
- 23:08who have raised skepticism about US quote forever wars unquote.
- 23:13Unlike Trump's first term, were his dubvish instincts met fierce resistance,
- 23:17resistance from a phalanx of former generals and prominent George W.
- 23:22Bush era of figures such as H. R. McMaster and
- 23:25John Bolton. Trump's new team includes senior and mid level
- 23:29officials who shared the president's skepticism of foreign military entanglements.
- 23:34Trump's eldest son, Donald Trump Junior, backed by Vance and
- 23:39conservative pundit Tucker Carlson, has been a bulwark against neo
- 23:43conservatives entering the administration, including former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo,
- 23:49who was under consideration to become Secretary Defense in Trump's
- 23:52second term until he was ruled out for any administration
- 23:56jobs and revoked of his security detail. It remains unclear
- 24:01whether Trump would sign off on an Israeli strike on Iran.
- 24:06By the end of the Bidens administration, US officials did
- 24:09not believe Iran had decided to pursue a nuclear weapon
- 24:13and had not told their Israeli counterparts whether the United
- 24:16States would participate in such an offensive. In late January,
- 24:20after Trump's inauguration, a Defense Intelligence Agency report reiterated that
- 24:26Israel is considering a strike on Iran this year, but
- 24:29included much less detail. A similar assessment also came out
- 24:35in October on a report by the National Intelligence Council.
- 24:38People familiar with intelligence, familiar with the intelligence said, all right,
- 24:44that's the end of the article. We'll go to the
- 24:46third article, which we'll read for a couple of minutes
- 24:48before we take our first break and go to the
- 24:50second part. Third article among drill instructors, A rising pattern
- 24:55of suicide in one of the marine's most iconic jobs.
- 25:00A stunning pattern of suicide. Now, this is a lengthy article,
- 25:03and that I will probably cut this off at some point.
- 25:06Titania's soul held her youngest child as she stood amend
- 25:10the rows of white headstones and the stately mossy oaks.
- 25:14Her husband, Logan was buried in this national cemetery nearly
- 25:18four years ago, after taking his life and ending what
- 25:21his widow describes as a ruinous tenure in one of
- 25:25the US military's most iconic jobs, marine drill instructor. He
- 25:30was thirty three. Nearby her other children spotted a coin
- 25:35regarded within the Armed Forces as a symbol of respect,
- 25:38resting atop his grave. Perhaps she thought it was left
- 25:42there by someone who worked with him molding new marines
- 25:45at Parris Island, just south of here. Soul her gaze, wistful,
- 25:49reflected on the times she had driven lobud In to work.
- 25:53Quote it was just quiet unquote, she recalled, quote peaceful unquote.
- 25:59Logan's Souls suicide in July twenty twenty one is one
- 26:02of at least seven in the past five years involving
- 26:05the Marine Corps stable of drill instructures. According to military
- 26:09casualty reports obtained through Freedom of Information Act requests in
- 26:15twenty twenty three, free occurred at Paras Island within less
- 26:18than three months. A study completed by the Marine Corps
- 26:22in twenty nineteen found that during the previous decade, twenty
- 26:26nine drill instructors either ended their lives or openly acknowledged
- 26:30they had contemplated doing so, and aberration the studies authors
- 26:34characterized as startlingly high compared with the occurrence of suicidal
- 26:39ideations among marines who had never held that job. Rates
- 26:43of addiction and divorce among drill instructors were also higher.
- 26:47Researchers found critics and relatives of those who died accused
- 26:51the Marine Corps of fostering an environment that contributed to
- 26:55their deaths. They described routine ninety zur plus work weeks,
- 27:00sleep deprivation, and an always on culture that frequently caused
- 27:04the jobs requisite intensity to seep into their personal lives,
- 27:09igniting disputes with loved ones. Others detailed bouts of depression
- 27:13and alcohol dependency, while the adrenaline fueled assignment has always
- 27:18been high stress. The twenty sixteen death of twenty year
- 27:22old Rahid Sidiki, a Muslim recruit who was found by
- 27:26investigators who have suffered a vicious suffered vicious abuse while
- 27:31at Paras Island, led the institution to sharpen its oversight
- 27:34of the men and women who indoctrinate newcomers. There is
- 27:38uncompromising accountability now, which has made the hardships long associated
- 27:43with being a drill instructor dangerously unbearable for some observers say.
- 27:48They note too that the Marine Corps lacks adequate services
- 27:52for those who are struggling in need help and tacitly
- 27:55condones the culture that stigmatizes those who seek it. Sadikie's
- 28:00death generated acute scrutiny of the Marine's approach to entry
- 28:03level training, and the service responded with a heavy hand,
- 28:07prosecuting some drill instructors and making clear that all infractions,
- 28:12real or perceived, would be subject to a Commanding General's
- 28:15review and the possibility of severe disciplinary action. Quote We
- 28:22put a drastic expectation on them to act perfect unquote,
- 28:25instead of Marine officer who has supervised dozens of drill instructors.
- 28:31This top down pressure can render them quote terrified of
- 28:34their career's ending unquote, he explained. Quote it causes this
- 28:38stress that trickles into their home life unquote. An independent
- 28:43investigation conducted by the Marine Corps Inspector General supports that assessment,
- 28:48concluded in November twenty twenty three. The inquiry found a
- 28:52quote climate that fosters surviving instead of thriving, and a
- 28:57perception among staff that drill structor's welfare is of low
- 29:01priority to leadership. Investigators reported hearing from several people involved
- 29:06with training of recruits who observed personnel quote walking on eggshells,
- 29:11quote on pins and needles unquote, and generally quote afraid
- 29:15for their careers. One former drill instructor said the experience
- 29:20left him and his family shattered, adding quote, I experienced
- 29:23a really, really dark side of myself unquote. This account
- 29:27of the mental health crisis afflicting Marine Corps drill instructors
- 29:31is based on more than thirty interviews with service members,
- 29:35their families, and their superiors. Several spoke on the conditions
- 29:39of anonymity to be candid about their struggles are to
- 29:42avoid retribution for criticizing the service. In response to questions
- 29:47from The Washington Post and Military dot Com, the Marine
- 29:50Corps acknowledged that its drill instructors have quote one of
- 29:54the most demanding roles within the service, and portrayed the
- 29:58findings of this investigation as part of an enduring epidemic
- 30:02affecting the entire Defense Department. Quote. Suicide rates are shaped
- 30:06by various factors, and we are as a service, are
- 30:10constantly looking for strategies that could have the most impact
- 30:14at reducing suicides in the military, unquote, said Major Hector Infante,
- 30:19a spokesman for the Marines. He pointed to quote a
- 30:23myriad of mental, physical, psychological, and spiritual wellness resources unquote
- 30:28available to all drill instructors along with their families, and
- 30:32said that quote leaders at all levels encouraged them to
- 30:36utilize these resources unquote. Infante did not address the institutional
- 30:41impact of Sadiki's death or how changes implemented as a
- 30:45result have affected drill instructors, nor did he comment on
- 30:49the circumstances surrounding the suicides addressed in this report. The
- 30:54Marine Corps operates two recruiting training depots or boot camps.
- 30:59Most recruits who in lists west of the Mississippi River
- 31:02complete the thirteen week program in San Diego. Those who
- 31:05joined in the eastern United States filter through Paras Island.
- 31:09In the past year, the Marines have brought in more
- 31:12than thirty thousand endlestees, most not long out of high school.
- 31:17The task of turning them into war fighting falls to
- 31:20roughly thirteen hundred drill instructors, who, over a three month
- 31:24cycle might work one hundred and twenty hours some weeks.
- 31:28Former personnel set in teams of three or four. They
- 31:31supervised platoons of sixty to eighty recruits around the clock,
- 31:36typically waking for work at two thirty am and rotating
- 31:39overnight responsibility. In the standard two or three year tour,
- 31:44drill instructors might do as many as nine cycles. By
- 31:48the way picture in this is a gunnery sergeant Logo
- 31:53Soul standing for a photo with his wife and his
- 31:57four children. Continuing. They are our national symbol of discipline,
- 32:01intimidating and seemingly indefatigable, and many who spoke with the
- 32:05post in military dot Com characterized the assignment as the
- 32:09most rewarding of their careers. But for some, the drill
- 32:13instructor's imposing persona relies a far darker reality, one marred
- 32:18by debilitating stress, exhaustion, and, in the most dire circumstances,
- 32:23a hopelessness difficult to overcome. One evening in May twenty
- 32:28twenty one, Tatiana's Soul, then thirty six, recorded an angry
- 32:32encounter with her husband after hiding his car keys keep
- 32:35him from driving drunk. Logan had been drinking more than ever,
- 32:39she said, recalling her fear that he might hurt her
- 32:41or someone else. As their baby cries. On the recording,
- 32:46Logan is heard yelling his voice hoarse. Quote, I don't
- 32:49give an f unquote, he says, challenging his wife to
- 32:53reporting to the supirit of the depot. Quote. All I'm
- 32:56going to do after that is blow my goddamn brains
- 32:59out the quote. She never made the call. Weeks later,
- 33:03Logan was dead. In recounting her husband's downward spiral, she
- 33:08said he became overwhelmed by the pressure to be perfect
- 33:11at work and the guilty felt being apart from their family.
- 33:15Quote that's not the person he wanted to be unquote,
- 33:18she said. The Marine Corps Infante said invest quote a
- 33:22great deal of effort unquote to ensure the drill instructors
- 33:26are quote not only physically but also psychologically prepared for
- 33:30the riggers unquote of their assignment. He cited a screening
- 33:34that all prospective drill instructors do before they are clear
- 33:38to attend the services eleven week preparatory school, where a
- 33:42formal psychiatric evaluation is performed. Personnel are quote continuously supervised
- 33:48by their command, leadership teams, and peer group for possible
- 33:52warning signs and if issues arise are given the opportunity
- 33:57to seek assistance unquote, he said. While the Pentagon has
- 34:02worked to expand mental health services throughout the military, it
- 34:06is run headlong into a nationwide shortage of qualified providers.
- 34:11There are eight for boot camp personnel in San Diego
- 34:14and fifteen at Parris Island. Infanti said. Former drill instructors
- 34:19acknowledge the screening they received before starting to work with recruits,
- 34:23but said that such help is needed most after the
- 34:26job begins, and that too often is difficult to obtain
- 34:30a timely important without declaring a full blown crisis. The
- 34:34job's unspoken expectations also can have a chilling effect on
- 34:38any impulse to seek care, they said, describing a prevailing
- 34:46reluctance to be away from work for mental health reason
- 34:49or even a family event, for fear of leaving teammates shorthanded.
- 34:53And then there is a sense of having an image
- 34:55to uphold. Marine Corps traditions discouraged drill instructors from showing
- 35:01emotion other than intense acuity or anger while around recruits.
- 35:06There are meant to be models of peak physical fitness
- 35:09and always in character. Most recruits, in turn, revere their
- 35:13drill instructors, seeing them as quote perfect, justy maculate, like
- 35:17gods or goddesses unquote, said one marine who spent three
- 35:20years at Paris Island. But there are quote a lot
- 35:23of unrealistic expectation unquote from leaders and peers alike, she added.
- 35:30Another former drill instructor recalled struggling while going through a
- 35:33divorce and feeling shunned and ashamed by colleagues after he
- 35:37vocalized that he might need help. Quote, nobody wanted to
- 35:40talk to me unquote, he said. Quote it's like you're
- 35:43in you're the plague unquote. By his third boot camp cycle,
- 35:48the slightest aggravation could trigger an eruption, and that intense
- 35:52anger was hard to turn off. At home, he said,
- 35:55an unwashed dish left in the sink or a child's
- 35:58candy wrapper on the floor could send him into a rage,
- 36:01he explained. He turned to alcohol to cope, he said,
- 36:05telling himself, quote, let me just have a drink just
- 36:07to calm myself down so that I don't overact when
- 36:10I might talk to my children and close the quote.
- 36:13It was in his fifth cycle that he began to
- 36:15experience suicidal thoughts. He said, at the same time he
- 36:19sought mental health care. However, he was mistrustful of the
- 36:23personnel in charge of scheduling appointments and declined to disclose
- 36:27the extent of his distress. They told him to come
- 36:30back in two weeks, he said, because of many recruits
- 36:33were ahead of him awaiting care. Now, this article perhaps
- 36:37is not even half done, but I think we're getting
- 36:40the theme of it. I'm going to jump to the
- 36:44to the very end in which a sergeant Jana Hernandez
- 36:55committed suicide. Hernandez knew she needed help, but refused to
- 36:59seek mental health care on base, her parents said, because
- 37:02she was low to visit the facility where recruits she
- 37:05had train would see her. She worried that exhibiting such
- 37:08vulnerability would burst the veneers of toughness she had thrown
- 37:11them on the drill field. She had shown them on
- 37:15the drill field. Her phone calls to others provided providers
- 37:18advertised on base went unreturned, they said Across His death
- 37:23on September twenty, twenty twenty three may have been a
- 37:26breaking point. The two were friends, and she was shocked
- 37:29by his death. Her parents said. Hernandez was found dead
- 37:33in her apartment. Two days later she was twenty five.
- 37:36Quote she was the best of the best unquote, her
- 37:39father said, recalling his daughter's drive to succeed. But you
- 37:43still quote but you're still going to have issues no
- 37:46matter what. And they didn't provide the help she needed.
- 37:50Close the quote. And that's the end of the article.
- 37:51But I think my leaping to the end kind of
- 37:54gives you the gist of the continuing article. Now I'm
- 38:00going to go to the fourth article. White House shuts
- 38:05a buyout down. Trump closes down federal workout buyout office
- 38:09after judge lifts hold. The administration moved to close the
- 38:13buyout program Wednesday evening after a federal judge in Massachusetts
- 38:17rejected a call from several labor groups that sued to
- 38:20block the initiative. Here's the article. A judge on Wednesday
- 38:25lifted his pause on the federal government's deferred resignation program,
- 38:29prompting the Trump's administration to swiftly declare victory as it
- 38:33closed the offer to any more workers who might still
- 38:36have been mulling it. The program, which encouraged federal workers
- 38:41to resign with the promise of pay through September, had
- 38:44been halted since last Thursday, when US District Judge George A. O'Toole,
- 38:49Junior temporarily stopped the Office of Personnel Management from moving ahead.
- 38:55Unions representing more than eight hundred thousand federal workers had
- 38:58filed a lawsuit to stop the program, calling it and
- 39:02quote arbitrary, unlawful, short fused, ultimatum close the quote it
- 39:10is rerually. O'Toole wrote that the union's lawsuit could not
- 39:14succeed because they lacked standing to sue and because his
- 39:17court lacked jurisdiction. The unions, the judge said, were not
- 39:21directly impacted by the administration's director quote, but are challenging
- 39:25a policy that affects others, specifically executive branch employees. Close
- 39:30the quote quote this is not sufficient unquote, he wrote,
- 39:35for the unions to sue under the Administrative Procedure Act. O'Toole,
- 39:39who was nominated in nineteen ninety five by President Bill Clinton,
- 39:42did not open on the buyout program's legality. The ruling
- 39:48left a serious question how much time would federal employees
- 39:53who had not yet signed up have to throw their
- 39:55names in none, it turned out. McLaurin, spokesperson for the
- 40:01Office of Personnel Management said the office was closed as
- 40:04a seven pm. Quote. There is no longer any doubt unquote,
- 40:08she said in a statement, quote the deferred resignation program
- 40:12was both legal and a valuable option for federal employees unquote.
- 40:17About seventy five thousand workers have accepted the deal. Benover
- 40:21said the decision out of the Massachusetts courthouse and the
- 40:25Trump administration's move immediately afterward, mark another milestone in a
- 40:30tumultuous period of federal workers who have been left scrambling
- 40:35to make up their minds since the resignation offer with
- 40:38the subject line quote fork in the road unquote, first
- 40:41landed in their inboxes January twenty eighth. Some workers jumped
- 40:47at the chance to leave. Others urged colleagues to reject
- 40:50the deal they considered a trap that will be used
- 40:53to eliminate staff without any payout. The moves come as
- 40:57the Trump administration began initiating widespread layoffs across the federal
- 41:01government starting Wednesday with probationary employees, and with plans to
- 41:06extend deeper into the civilian federal workforce of two point
- 41:10three million. The drastic measures are led by representatives of
- 41:14Elon Musk US DOGE Service, who are deployed across agencies
- 41:19with full oversight of the hiring process, and one central
- 41:23mission to shrink the sprawling bureaucracy and align it with
- 41:27Trump's vision. The unions had sought the right to sue
- 41:31by claiming the violent program's rapid deadline, along with what
- 41:35they characterized as its confusing and chaotic rollout, impeded the
- 41:39union's ability to carry out their missions of counseling and
- 41:42advocating for federal workers. The deferred resignation was the administration's
- 41:47effort to lure workers into leaving before initiating the more
- 41:52direct reductions in force, which can pose as pose legal challenges,
- 41:57especially when it comes to union protected employees. Most of
- 42:01the two point three million federal workers were eligible for
- 42:05the deferred resignation deal. According to the White House. Agency
- 42:10heads could make exceptions in military personnel, US Postal Service employees,
- 42:15people working in immigration enforcement and national security, and thousands
- 42:19of veterans affairs employees in direct care roles or exempt.
- 42:24According TOPM, in physical year twenty twenty three, one hundred
- 42:29and fifteen thousand, nine hundred federal workers either retired or
- 42:33quit from their government jobs. According to the Partnership for
- 42:36Public Service, employees at first had nine full days to respond.
- 42:41Then came the lawsuit. Three government unions, the American Federation
- 42:46of Government Employees, the National Association of Government Employees, and
- 42:52the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees challenged
- 42:57the legality of the offer. They are represented by the
- 43:00nonprofit group Democracy Forward. In a statement Wednesday evening, AFGE
- 43:06National President Everett Kelly called the ruling quote a setback
- 43:10in the fight for dignity and fairness for public service unquote.
- 43:14The union's lawyers, he said, are evaluating next steps. Quote. Importantly,
- 43:19this decision did not address the underlying lawfulness of the program.
- 43:23We continued to maintain it as illegal to force American
- 43:26citizens who have dedicated their careers to public service to
- 43:30make a decision in a few short days without adequate
- 43:34information about whether to upreach their families and have their
- 43:37careers and leave their careers for what amounts to an
- 43:40unfunded value from Elon Musk unquote. This statement continued the
- 43:45legal back and forth in recent days, left tens of
- 43:47thousands of employees who already had accepted the deal in limbo.
- 43:52Some expressed regret that they jumped at the offer too quickly,
- 43:56now worrying they might have a target on their backs
- 44:00the administration's blitz of actions to slash the federal workforce
- 44:04and warnings of layoffs ahead, some employees saw the resignation
- 44:07plan as their best way out. Quote. My team has
- 44:11already been dismantled, so coming back to work for me,
- 44:14I don't even know what that would look like unquote,
- 44:17an OPM employee who had opted into the offer previously
- 44:20told the Post. Amid its pressure campaign, the administration also
- 44:24deployed an upbeat tone in its push to sell the program,
- 44:29pitching it as a chance to take a second job
- 44:33or travel to a quote dream destination while on the
- 44:36federal payroll, while White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt called
- 44:41it quote very generous unquote. For some federal workers weighing
- 44:46the career decision, such messages seem tone death. A lawyer
- 44:50with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, who spoke on the
- 44:53condition of anonymity out of fear of reprisal, characterized OPM's
- 44:57emails about the offer as quot reasonally condescending unquote. Others
- 45:02were left scratching their heads about whether they were ever
- 45:05whether they were even eligible, trying to decipher the vague
- 45:09conditions of the offer and its uncertain legal standing. Employees
- 45:14at the CIA who were previously exempted were told that
- 45:17they had become eligible to participate. Employees at the Department
- 45:20of Defense were also left confused when they received the
- 45:23resignation offers, despite OPM stated on its website that employees
- 45:27and positions related to national security were not included. Dozens
- 45:32of lawsuits have been filed challenging Trump's flurry of executive
- 45:36orders in the first weeks of the administration. Federal judges
- 45:40so far have halted his ban on birthright citizenship, issued
- 45:44temporary restraining orders against his freeze on federal grants and loans,
- 45:48and at least for now, blocked the administration from putting
- 45:51two thousand, two hundred and twenty workers with the US
- 45:54Agency for International Development on leave. That's the end of
- 45:58that article. We'll go back in try to squeeze in
- 46:00the remaining two. The next one is President is installed
- 46:05as Kennedy chair. New Kennedy Center board elects Trump chair,
- 46:09fires Rudder as President. President Trump's refashioned board of trustees
- 46:14voted him chairman and replaced the Kennedy Center's president, Deborah Rudder,
- 46:19with Trump ally Richard Grennell. Now, for time reasons, I'm
- 46:22going to have to cut this short. The Kennedy Center
- 46:26Board of Trustees voted Wednesday afternoon to install President Donald
- 46:30Trump as chairman of the board, cementing the planned Trump
- 46:35announced Friday to overhaul the storied arts institution with him
- 46:39at its helm. It also voted to terminate Deborah Rudder
- 46:43as president and made former acting Director of National Intelligence
- 46:47Richard Grenell interim president. According to multiple people with knowledge
- 46:52of the meeting, who spoke on the condition of anonymity
- 46:55because they were not authorized to speak publicly, Trump attended
- 46:59the virtual meeting. The refactioned board of trustees is made
- 47:03up entirely of Trump appointees, many of whom were appointed
- 47:07after he terminated all of former President Joe Biden's appointees.
- 47:11New members include White House Personnel Office Director Sergio Gore,
- 47:16Chief of Staff Susie Wilds, and Usha Vance. Quote. It's
- 47:20a great honor to be chairman of the Kennedy Center,
- 47:22especially with this amazing board of trustees closed, the quote,
- 47:26Trump wrote on truth Social after the vote, quote, we
- 47:30will make the Kennedy Center a very special and exciting
- 47:33place unquote. Meanwhile, musician Ben Foldes and opera singer Renee
- 47:38Fleming said they were stepping down as artistic advisors with
- 47:41the Center, as did the treasurer of its Board of trustees.
- 47:45TV producer Sean de Rimes, her spokesman confirmed in a statement.
- 47:49Fleming said she would leave quote out of respect unquote
- 47:53to both Rutterer and former board chair David M. Rubinstein,
- 47:56adding quote, I've treasured the bipartisan support of this institution
- 48:00as a beacon of America at our best unquote. Field
- 48:03said on Instagram that he would leave his role with
- 48:06the National Sympathy Symphony Orchestra. Rudder tearfully addressed a packed
- 48:12room of Kennedy staff members after the vote at a
- 48:15meeting in the Center's Reach complex. Quote I hope I'm
- 48:20not saying goodbye as a friend and colleague to all
- 48:22of you, but I am leaving now unquote, Rudder said, quote,
- 48:26and I just want to keep these ideals that we
- 48:28wear in our lanyard central to the work that we do,
- 48:31and they are from GF. JFK and his family. They
- 48:35were the ones that confirmed them and added one. So
- 48:37let's remember courage, justice, freedom, service, and gratitude. Close the
- 48:44quote quote, I hope you know how much I care
- 48:47about all of you, and I pray for the best
- 48:49for each of you, unquote, she concluded, as staffers rose
- 48:52and applause before the vote. At least one board member
- 48:56had grown agitated by what he considered resistance from Rudder
- 49:00to ideas he had pressed. Paola Zampoli, appointed to the
- 49:04board by Trump in twenty twenty, sent her a message
- 49:07on Monday, obtained by the Post. Quote, as our president
- 49:11would like to see at the Center new development, and
- 49:13we previously discussed these are the few topics that were
- 49:17never addressed on a proper time manner, quote, he wrote,
- 49:20quote maybe it should be the right time now unquote.
- 49:23He attached an eleven point draft proposal to upgrade offerings
- 49:28at the Kennedy Center, some of them reviving ideas Zampoli
- 49:31floated upon his appointment. Among them were quote thematic and
- 49:35cultural lounges unquote for cutter Israel, Africa and more. Quote
- 49:40global representation unquote, partnerships with NASA or SpaceX for quote,
- 49:45artistic collaborations and zero gravity quote, a blue carpet, a
- 49:50Valentino designed fashion event inspired by Jacqueline Kennedy, and new
- 49:54marina and ferry connections on the Potomac River. As news
- 49:58of Trump's appointment and Rudder's termination spread on Wednesday, the
- 50:03Kennedy Center's website crashed frequently, citing an overload of visitors.
- 50:07On Monday, Trump named Grenell as the interim executive director
- 50:11of the Kennedy Center in a post on truth Social
- 50:14The position plunged leadership at the Kennedy Center into confusion,
- 50:18as the position quote executive director unquote does not exist.
- 50:23Following Rudder's address, employees were alerted that Grenell was expected
- 50:27to visit the building that day. The staff meeting concluded
- 50:30with several colleagues cheerfully embracing one another before returning to work.
- 50:35A termination email sent Friday by Gore to several Biden
- 50:38appointed board members read quote on behalf of President Donald Trump.
- 50:43I'm writing to inform you your position on the board
- 50:45of the Kennedy Center is terminated, effective immediately. Thank you
- 50:50for your service. Close the quote. The Kennedy Center removed
- 50:53the names of those who had been terminated from its
- 50:56list of board members and designated them as emeritus members.
- 51:00They included all of Biden's appointees and its chair Rubinstein,
- 51:04the billionaire co founder of the private equity firm the
- 51:06Carlisle Group and principal owner of the Baltimore Orioles. Now
- 51:11I'm going to stop there just so I can squeeze
- 51:13in the sixth and last article, at least part of it.
- 51:16The sixth article, firings begin as Musk's team works to
- 51:21trim civilian ranks. Musk team kicks off federal layoffs as
- 51:26White House eyes big cuts. The Trump administration's plan for
- 51:30shrinking the civilian workforce is coming into increasingly clear view.
- 51:34There's a photograph of Trump, Musk, Musk's sun and another
- 51:40aid in a photograph. Now again, I'm going to have
- 51:42to cut this off, but I'm gonna read as long
- 51:44as I have time. Billionaire Elon Musk's team has initiated
- 51:48sweeping layoffs of federal employees as the Trump administration races
- 51:53to shrink the government's civilian workforce. An official with the
- 51:57Office of Personnel Management, which is now run by US Allies,
- 52:01emailed staff Wednesday morning, stating that widespread layoffs, known as
- 52:05quote reduction in force have begun and are already overwhelming
- 52:10the small agency that functions as a human resources department
- 52:14for the government. According to a copy of the message
- 52:16obtained by the Washington Post, OPM has also begun to
- 52:20assert more control over all federal hiring, according to four
- 52:24employees of the agency and additional internal communications also obtained
- 52:29by the Post. Meanwhile, White House officials are eyeing cuts
- 52:33to agency budgets between thirty and forty percent on average
- 52:37across the government, centered on significant staff reductions. According to
- 52:41two other people briefed on internal conversations who also spoke
- 52:45on the condition of anonymity to recount private deliberations, that
- 52:49target would vary greatly, and it's expected to exempt agencies
- 52:53favored by President Donald Trump, such as the Defense Department
- 52:58and the Homeland Security Department. A White House spokeswoman declined
- 53:02to comment on that figure. The people cautioned those plans
- 53:05are not yet finalized and could change. Late Wednesday, of
- 53:08federal judge also lifted a pause on a deferred resignation
- 53:12program that would pay workers through September if they quit now,
- 53:16and the administration said it would not accept new applications.
- 53:20The developments reflect the accelerating pace of the effort by
- 53:23Trump and Musk to defang the federal workforce, a campaign
- 53:27they view as necessary to enact their conservative agenda and
- 53:31slash spending. Now, I'm sorry, I'm going to have to
- 53:34stop there. This concludes the reading of the Washington Post
- 53:37for today, Thursday, February thirteenth, twenty twenty five. Your reader
- 53:42today has been Mark Webster. If you have any questions, comments,
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