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Mariana van Zeller (2025) - Inside the $150 Billion Black Market

This recap episode features a discussion between Joe Rogan and investigative journalist Mariana van Zeller. The conversation covers Van Zeller’s experience reporting on global black and grey markets, particularly through her show, Trafficked, and her new podcast, The Hidden Third, which focuses on the estimated 35% of the global economy consisting of unregulated and illicit activities. Key topics explored include the mechanics of various criminal enterprises, such as drug trafficking and cartel operations (including the presence of the Sinaloa Cartel in the US), counterfeit currency…

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