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UK Column News Podcast 14th October 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the fourteenth of October twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four, so after one o'clock Welcome to UK Column News.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host Bran Gerrish, delighted to have with me today,
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Speaker 1: Diane rasmuson mcgaddy from Scotland, and also Ben Rubin who's
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Speaker 1: joining us with a live link from London. Well, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to kick straight off today with a reminder that
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Speaker 1: UK Column has often said to our viewers and listeners,
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Speaker 1: if you don't understand what's happening in politics, try coming
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Speaker 1: in from the angle that we are being attacked by
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Speaker 1: our own government. And I stand by that statement. Our
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Speaker 1: audience can have a think about it and what it means.
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Speaker 1: But first of all, let's just get a little look
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Speaker 1: at what politics really is and how it works. And
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Speaker 1: of course it's not as simple as thinking that we've
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Speaker 1: got a government system with a cabinet office with a
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Speaker 1: political party who are debating serious matters in Parliament to
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Speaker 1: form policy which then goes via the civil service, because
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Speaker 1: the reality is to one side we've got immensely powerful corporations, foundations,
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Speaker 1: think tanks and charities, and on the other side we've
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Speaker 1: got the immensely powerful global organizations such as the UN,
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Speaker 1: the World Economic Forum, Global Mayors, UNESCO, the World Health Organization,
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Speaker 1: and many others. And none of that system, or this
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Speaker 1: complete system can work without media driving the agenda, telling
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Speaker 1: people what to think and what to believe. And to
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Speaker 1: make this work, it's got to be funded. And this
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Speaker 1: is where the real power is through the global banking system.
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Speaker 1: So Ben, I'm going to bring you straight in and say,
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Speaker 1: of course you're telling us what those corporations, foundations, think
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Speaker 1: tanks and charities are doing, plus the power base that
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Speaker 1: is the UN So welcome to today's news.
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Speaker 2: Hello everybody.
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Speaker 3: Yes, our political classes aren't actually running the country as
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Speaker 3: far as I can ascertain. They're delivering a policy agenda
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Speaker 3: that's been set at a global level by the organizations
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Speaker 3: that Brian has just described, and the political classes on
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Speaker 3: both the left and right are essentially there to deliver
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Speaker 3: and sell the message to the electorate in the respective
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Speaker 3: nation states. And we're going to talk a bit today
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Speaker 3: about the top level, the people really setting the agenda
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Speaker 3: and pulling the strings. And we're going to talk about
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Speaker 3: a new term that has just emerged called radical centrism,
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Speaker 3: which is supposedly the antidote to authoritarianism or is it
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Speaker 3: will find out, and as I say, it's coming down
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Speaker 3: from the very top levels of the system. We're going
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Speaker 3: to talk about this gentleman, Daniel Sachs, who is a
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Speaker 3: Swedish businessman, or, to use a term that I've heard
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Speaker 3: used on the column before, a mystery man of no importance.
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Speaker 2: That's all you need to know about it. So who
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Speaker 2: is Daniel Sacks.
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Speaker 3: I've talked about him before a few months ago, but
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Speaker 3: I will just remind you because there's quite a lot
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Speaker 3: around this gentleman. So he is a senior advisor at
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Speaker 3: Chatham House. He is one of seven trustees and vice
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Speaker 3: chair of the board of Open Societies Foundation, and he's
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Speaker 3: also the chairman of the Open Society's Foundation Investment Committee,
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Speaker 3: so he directs their finance decisions. He's a founding member
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Speaker 3: of the European Council on Foreign Relations and he's also
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Speaker 3: a young Global Leader of the World Economic Forum. In
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Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, he was attending a meeting held
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Speaker 3: by the European Council on Foreign Relations at the Munich
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Speaker 3: Security Conference back in February, and you can see him
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Speaker 3: here in the center of the image. Sitting in very
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Speaker 3: close proxim he to Urshay von Delayan and Alex Soros,
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Speaker 3: who is obviously now the president of Open Societies now
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Speaker 3: that George Soros's father has stepped down from that rise.
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Speaker 3: This is an exceptionally well connected individual.
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Speaker 2: He's also got a direct.
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Speaker 3: Link to the Builderberg meetings because he's a director of
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Speaker 3: Wallenberg Investments and the founder of Wallenberg Investments is Marcus Wallenberg,
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Speaker 3: who's on the Builderberg steering committee. Daniel Sacks has his
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Speaker 3: own foundation, the Daniel Sacks Foundation, which was founded in
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Speaker 3: twenty ten. Through this, he's invested in and ultimately controls
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Speaker 3: these three organizations. Multitudes Foundation, which is focused on stimulating
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Speaker 3: grassroots radical left wing political activism across Europe, with a
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Speaker 3: particular focus on new immigrant communities from Sub Saharan Africa
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Speaker 3: and elsewhere. He also runs a Political Foundation which is
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Speaker 3: focused on developing a new class of political leadership and
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Speaker 3: a political which exists to retrain and frame UK civil servants.
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Speaker 3: As I say UK, they're operating in one hundred and
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Speaker 3: seventy countries worldwide and they see this as part of
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Speaker 3: an integrated what they call a democracy flywheel. So They
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Speaker 3: use these organizations to reconnect or connect with voters, the
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Speaker 3: people to voting politicians who they train and ultimately control,
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Speaker 3: certainly id ideologically, if in no other way, whose policies
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Speaker 3: are then delivered by a civil service who is also
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Speaker 3: trained by organizations run and funded by this gentleman, not
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Speaker 3: run by funded by this gentleman.
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Speaker 2: I spoke about this back in June.
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Speaker 3: If you go back and watch that on the UK
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Speaker 3: column website to the twenty eighth of June, you can
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Speaker 3: get a much more in depth look at what those
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Speaker 3: three organizations are up to.
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Speaker 2: These organizations are also part of slap bang.
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Speaker 3: In the center of this ecosystem that I spoke about
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Speaker 3: last week when I was talking about Julianman, Grant and
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Speaker 3: Vital Voices. So this is this network of high powered
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Speaker 3: women in politics, business and civil society who were essentially
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Speaker 3: rolling out this agenda. This is all backed by the
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Speaker 3: US State Department, by the British Foreign Office, United Nations,
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Speaker 3: and they are delivering this radical centrist vision ultimately which
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Speaker 3: comes from this guy, comes from Daniel Sacks, and you're
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Speaker 3: going to start hearing this a lot more, I believe.
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Speaker 3: So he was speaking at this event in September, just
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Speaker 3: two days before the UN General Assembly, So they're obviously
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Speaker 3: making good on the opportunity of having a number of
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Speaker 3: global leaders up in the northeast of the US. So
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Speaker 3: this was hosted in Montreal in Canada, and Sachs spoke
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Speaker 3: on stage.
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Speaker 2: He delivered a keynote.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to show you some clips of it, and
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Speaker 3: he was talking about a number of activities that he's
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Speaker 3: delivering and his foundations are delivering. Specifically, he mentioned working
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Speaker 3: in Poland earlier this year to help Donald Tusk get
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Speaker 3: into power, and he describes what he two competing energy fields,
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Speaker 3: two competing energy fields, which I think is a really
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Speaker 3: interesting view into the mindset of these people, how they
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Speaker 3: view the world and how they project power ultimately. And
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Speaker 3: those energy fields represent a tug of war between two
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Speaker 3: main drivers of political engagement. This is a direct quote.
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Speaker 3: One is the rising support of authoritarianism. The other is
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Speaker 3: the mobilization of young voters, especially young women, in protection
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Speaker 3: of the fundamental values of democracy. Now for me, that
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Speaker 3: means right versus left, it authoritarianism as they would see
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Speaker 3: it on the right. And then the young voters, especially
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Speaker 3: the young women, protecting the fundamental values of democracy on
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Speaker 3: the left. And as we know, Daniel Sax's on the
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Speaker 3: board of the Open Society's Foundation, and we've spoken a
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Speaker 3: couple of months ago, maybe it was just a month ago. Actually,
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Speaker 3: time does fly about George Soros's role in backing right
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Speaker 3: wing figures such as Paul Marshall, as well as left
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Speaker 3: wing organizations and figures like David Millerband and International Rescue
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Speaker 3: but also BLM in order ultimately to create chaos within
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Speaker 3: our societies. And Daniel sach sits right at the center
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Speaker 3: of that. He's been talking about this gender split for
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Speaker 3: quite some time and he's very clearly trying to widen it.
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Speaker 2: That's what a lot of this activity is about.
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Speaker 3: That's why organizations like Vital Voices exist, and a lot
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Speaker 3: of this is about political actors, but also has been
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Speaker 3: driven very heavily by the media. And thanks to Kenny
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Speaker 3: for sending over the statistics from a blog post by
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Speaker 3: David Rizzardo, I recommend going to read this article is
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Speaker 3: a great article which talks about the increase in divisive
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Speaker 3: terminology used by the New York Times and the Washington Post.
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Speaker 3: Post twenty ten has been a huge uptick in the
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Speaker 3: use of terms like patriarchy, gender discrimination, sexes, sexes, and
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Speaker 3: white supremacy, which is feeding directly into the division that
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Speaker 3: we're seeing in society. This has been constructed, it's been
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Speaker 3: constructed by people like Daniel Sachs and these organizations.
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Speaker 2: So they're creating chaos.
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Speaker 3: And his solution to the chaos ultimately that he and
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Speaker 3: his ecosystem around him have created is radical centrism, which
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Speaker 3: they present as the solution to authoritarianism. Right now, I
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Speaker 3: believe that these people are disingenuous at best, and they
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Speaker 3: are certainly radical, and we know that they are guided
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Speaker 3: by the ideology of Saul Olinsky, and one of the
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Speaker 3: Lynsky's rules for radicals is to accuse your opponent of
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Speaker 3: what you're doing, to create confusion and inculcate voters against
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Speaker 3: evidence of your own guilt. So, actually, I believe that
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Speaker 3: radical centrism isn't the antidotal authoritarianism. I believe that it
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Speaker 3: is authoritarianism. That's what we're talking about. They've driven people
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Speaker 3: to the fringes on the left and the right, and
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Speaker 3: then they're going to drive the institutions back into the
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Speaker 3: center to deliver order, a new order out of the
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Speaker 3: chaos that they've created. So this new ideology, radical centrism
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Speaker 3: has three fundamental components. Let's hear now from Daniel Sachs
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Speaker 3: about each of those.
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Speaker 4: And radical centrism for me, stands on three legs. The
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Speaker 4: first leg is shifting focus from the issues that dominate
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Speaker 4: national populist agenders, and we've heard a lot about this
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Speaker 4: here and moving to the everyday concerns of voters, the
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Speaker 4: cost of living, healthcare, economic opportunity. And it turns out
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Speaker 4: also in some of the polling that that data practice
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Speaker 4: has done, that those are the most more important for
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Speaker 4: a lot of voters, for most voters in some countries,
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Speaker 4: and then developing new innovative policy agendas based on those
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Speaker 4: types of issues that acknowledge people's very real concerns.
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Speaker 3: So that's the first leg of radical centrism, is shifting
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Speaker 3: focus away from issues like mass immigration, for example, and
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Speaker 3: towards things like cost of living, economic opportunity, healthcare. Despite
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Speaker 3: the fact that the policies handed down from these organizations
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Speaker 3: have destroyed our economic systems and destroyed our health right,
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Speaker 3: they're here with the solution again to the problems that
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Speaker 3: they've created, as far as I can tell, Let's hear
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Speaker 3: about the second leg of radical centrism.
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Speaker 4: But secondly, and the second leg, which is even more important,
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Speaker 4: I would argue, is radical institutional renewal. It is about
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Speaker 4: a deep renewal of leadership. It is about broadening engagement
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Speaker 4: with diverse voices. It's about fresh faces, new voices, it
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Speaker 4: is about new narratives. It also is really important to
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Speaker 4: close the gap, the trust gap between institutions, the elected,
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Speaker 4: and the people they represent or are supposed to be representing.
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Speaker 4: And that means rethinking how politics interacts with citizens and
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Speaker 4: voters through deliberation, through participation, participatory processes, citizens assemblies, et cetera.
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Speaker 4: And it involves real work on inclusion, rethinking who holds
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Speaker 4: power and how political institutions related to the people that
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Speaker 4: they serve. And in totality, it really is about reimagining politics,
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Speaker 4: not only policies.
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Speaker 3: It's about breaking traditional power structures, reimagining political institutions, bringing
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Speaker 3: in new leaders, diverse voices, new narratives. That's what Multitudes
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Speaker 3: in particularly is doing, and also bringing in new forms
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Speaker 3: of democratic decision making, deliberation, participatory processes, citizens assembly seems
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Speaker 3: that we've been talking about for a very long time
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Speaker 3: and that are being promoted and delivered ultimately by the
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Speaker 3: Democratic Flywheel. The Democracy Flywheel, the organization's Daniel Sachs, is backing,
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Speaker 3: let's hear the third and final leg of radical centrism and.
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Speaker 4: Then lean doing all of this while remaining passionately anchored
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Speaker 4: in the core ideology and the core values that come
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Speaker 4: from the geological roots that you'll represent, dig where you
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Speaker 4: stand and take the test every day whether the ideas
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Speaker 4: you have and whether the actions you want to want
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Speaker 4: to put in place can be seen through that lens,
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Speaker 4: and where you can proudly uphold those values ni geologies,
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Speaker 4: And in a way, part of that is also recommitting
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Speaker 4: to and reaffirming the foundational values of liberal democracy, values
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Speaker 4: that a majority of voters, as it turns out, the
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Speaker 4: broad centers still stand by and are willing to fight for.
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Speaker 4: That's it. So it's all up to you.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, liberal democracy. It's right between the lines a
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Speaker 3: little bit here. I believe that means we can do
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Speaker 3: whatever we want if enough people go along with it.
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Speaker 3: That's what I think liberal democracy ultimately is. When you
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Speaker 3: take it to its extreme. Even actually, if you'd take
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Speaker 3: it to its extreme, it also looks a bit like
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Speaker 3: this thou wilt, I think that's what potentially we're looking
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Speaker 3: at here. He says, it's over to you. Who's he
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Speaker 3: talking to in the audience?
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Speaker 2: Trudeau? Right, So it's in Canada.
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Speaker 3: Trudeau's unfortunately for Canada is the prime minister. Who else
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Speaker 3: is there? R Dern on the right hand side there.
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Speaker 3: So we've got a top, top level audience receiving their
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Speaker 3: briefing ultimately here from Daniel Sacks. And who's helping him
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Speaker 3: to deliver it. He's got two guys here, one on
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Speaker 3: the left and one on the right. On his left,
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Speaker 3: as we're looking at the picture here, that is Aaron
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Speaker 3: Chowdre and chowdri was the new media and communications of
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Speaker 3: wiz Kid who got Obama elected twice. Now this is
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Speaker 3: a top level communications guy, big time propagandist for Obama.
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Speaker 3: And on the right hand side of as we were
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Speaker 3: looking at that picture of Daniel Sacks, is this fella,
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Speaker 3: Paul Alacon, who's the general secretary of the Daniel Sacks Foundation.
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Speaker 3: He's also an Obama the global leader, sorry, an Obama
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Speaker 3: leader for Europe in twenty twenty three, and if we
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Speaker 3: remember from the June show, he's also quite keen for
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Speaker 3: us to know. I believe that he's Jewish. He's certainly
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Speaker 3: very sympathetic to Judaism. It says here the world was
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Speaker 3: created for me, which is from the Babylonian Talmud, the theo,
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Speaker 3: which I believe could provide us some explanation as to
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Speaker 3: the theological positions at least driving this a gender.
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Speaker 1: Right, Ben, thank you very much for that excellent analysis.
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Speaker 1: The beast is emerging, it's becoming ever easier to see it,
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Speaker 1: and of course we have to see it to be
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Speaker 1: able to fight against it. But let's follow on through
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Speaker 1: because of course for all this to happen, the media
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Speaker 1: must be on the side of these individuals. And you've
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Speaker 1: just remembered, just reminded us of the increasing use of
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Speaker 1: the woke, a gender and woke language in American press
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Speaker 1: at at least, But of course it's also happening over
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Speaker 1: here in UK. So what better place to go than
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Speaker 1: the BBC. And in fact, last week a number of
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Speaker 1: people contact me talking about a particularly unpleasant video that
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Speaker 1: the BBC had put out. But this is how they
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Speaker 1: were advertising it. The fight for truth is on. BBC
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Speaker 1: pulls back the curtain on the fight against disinformation. So
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Speaker 1: let's have a look at the true little horror film
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Speaker 1: that the BBC produced.
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Speaker 5: Disinformation. You think you're winning climate change, fooling people in
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Speaker 5: the most sophisticated ways.
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Speaker 4: You fueled hate and confusion, pandemic.
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Speaker 5: Unleashed conspiracies, endangered lives and the mind democracies, and you
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Speaker 5: make our jokes and almost impossible. Almost you see, it's
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Speaker 5: because of you we get up in the morning and
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Speaker 5: work through the night all over the world twenty four
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Speaker 5: to seven. The more you try to drown our reality,
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Speaker 5: the harder we'll work to verify the facts. And with
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Speaker 5: our expertise you have nowhere to hide in. We will
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Speaker 5: find your slights of hand and expose them. No matter
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Speaker 5: how hard it gets. We'll never give up. We'll be watching,
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Speaker 5: We'll be ready, because it's the pursuit of truth that
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Speaker 5: gives us our calling. The fight for truth is on.
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Speaker 1: Well, there we go lies, lies and more lies from
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Speaker 1: the BBC as they puff up their own image. Let's
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Speaker 1: have a look at their chief executive for BBC News
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Speaker 1: had to say, Aside from the lengths that we go
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Speaker 1: to in the pursuit of truth, she said, we're proud
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Speaker 1: to be the world's most trusted news provider, and I
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Speaker 1: hope this film shows just how hard we work each
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Speaker 1: and every day to earn the trust of our audiences.
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Speaker 1: Then there was another quote by this gentleman, Charles Basil,
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Speaker 1: who's the Chief Brand Officer for the BBC, and he said,
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Speaker 1: this campaign speaks to the BBC's mission to deliver accurate,
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Speaker 1: impartial news globally and illustrates our commitment to pursuing the
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Speaker 1: truth in an age of disinformation. Now this man, I
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Speaker 1: couldn't find a photograph him on the BBC website, but
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Speaker 1: he's the former global vice president of Absolute Vodka Sweden,
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Speaker 1: so selling alcohol and apparently turning around fatigued brands. This
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Speaker 1: made me smile because presumably the BBC is telling us
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Speaker 1: that they are a fatigued brand, which is why they've
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Speaker 1: had to bring this man on board. But if you
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Speaker 1: really want to know who's doing the dirty stuff against
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Speaker 1: members of the public, well here's BBC creative and they're
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Speaker 1: proud to put out a big photograph of all their staff.
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Speaker 1: Remember that we are now the target of these individuals
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Speaker 1: because we dare to challenge what they and the government
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Speaker 1: in the establishment have to say. But apparently the BBC's
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Speaker 1: mission is to act in the public interest, serving all
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Speaker 1: audiences by informing, educating and entertaining, and BBC Creative is
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Speaker 1: here to help deliver on that promise. Now keep that
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Speaker 1: in mind, will we have a look at how the
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Speaker 1: BBC reacted to a Freedom of information request. This was
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Speaker 1: back in May twenty twenty three. We did talk about
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Speaker 1: it at the time, but somebody asked that the BBC
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Speaker 1: provide a structure chart including names for BBC Verify. They
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Speaker 1: asked for a budget for BBC Verify, and they also
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Speaker 1: ask for the information that was u to justify the
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Speaker 1: setting up of Verify. This is how the BBC responded.
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Speaker 1: It said that information that relates to the BBC's output,
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Speaker 1: or information that supports and it's closely associated with these
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Speaker 1: creative activities, is considered to be helped with the BBC
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Speaker 1: for the purposes of art, journalism and literature or literature.
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Speaker 1: Such information help with the BBC and other public service
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Speaker 1: broadcasters falls outside the scope of the FOI Act, and
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Speaker 1: it went on to say by ensuring information about matters,
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Speaker 1: including editory decisions about programming and budgets allocated such programming
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Speaker 1: are not subject to undue public scrutiny. So don't think
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Speaker 1: you're going to be asking the BBC for truth, because
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Speaker 1: they're simply going to tell you to go away and
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Speaker 1: not bother them. But they ended their response by saying,
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Speaker 1: it's important that the BBC is an independent and impartial
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Speaker 1: news organization. Of course it is, as long as you
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Speaker 1: don't ask them any direct questions. So who's responsible for
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Speaker 1: this atrocity on the license paying public. Well, here's the
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Speaker 1: Chair of the BBC Board, Dotr Samir Shah. He's the
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Speaker 1: man responsible. Let's have a little look at him. He's
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Speaker 1: responsible for upholding and protecting the independence of the BBC
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Speaker 1: and ensuring that the BBC fulfills its mission to inform,
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Speaker 1: educate and entertain and promote its public purposes, presumably to
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Speaker 1: its entire satisfaction. He ensures that the board's decision making
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Speaker 1: is in the public interest, informed with the best interests
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Speaker 1: of the audience, and appropriate regard for the impact of
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Speaker 1: decisions on the wider media market. The board under the
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Speaker 1: chair also must ensure the BBC maintains the highest standards
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Speaker 1: of corporate governance. And he's paid one hundred and sixty
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Speaker 1: thousand pounds a year for at least three days a week,
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Speaker 1: so just think about that for the average person in UK.
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Speaker 1: But this is where it's getting interesting because his half brother,
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Speaker 1: Mohit Bakaya, is the BBC's Director of Speech and controller
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Speaker 1: of Radio four. So these two men between them absolutely
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Speaker 1: control the BBC. There's the amount of pay up to
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Speaker 1: nearly two hundred and twenty thousand pounds for his brother.
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Speaker 1: But Dr Shah proposes to recuse himself with regards to
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Speaker 1: any decision making relating directly to Mohit Bakaya that may
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Speaker 1: reach the board. But then the BBC note goes on
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Speaker 1: to say that audio is central to the BBC's content
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Speaker 1: portfolio and future strategy. As such, it would not be
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Speaker 1: practical or advisable for him as chairman to recuse himself
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Speaker 1: from the board's work in this area. So there's a
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Speaker 1: conflict of interest. But the BBC gets round it by
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Speaker 1: saying it's too difficult to separate these two individuals. This
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Speaker 1: is truly extraordinary, should not be permitted and should be
23:04
Speaker 1: stopped as soon as possible. But let's listen to what
23:08
Speaker 1: the half brother had to say when he got an award.
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Speaker 6: The refugee crisis is such a huge story at the moment,
23:16
Speaker 6: and there's been so much attention on the journalism and frankly,
23:20
Speaker 6: you know, one of the things that we've borne out
23:22
Speaker 6: and the decisions we made, you know, these stories are
23:26
Speaker 6: actually having an impact on the political process. So you know,
23:29
Speaker 6: getting one of these, I think, is a recognition that
23:32
Speaker 6: you're not not just kind of the quality of journalism,
23:35
Speaker 6: but actually the value of the journalism in moving and
23:38
Speaker 6: setting the agenda for the debate around the political story.
23:45
Speaker 1: So this is setting the political gender. It's not commenting
23:48
Speaker 1: on it, it's driving it. This is exactly what Ben
23:51
Speaker 1: is talking about. And let's have a look at One
23:54
Speaker 1: World Media. That is the organization that was busy stroking
23:58
Speaker 1: his ego.
24:07
Speaker 2: The mentorship and the guidance that One World Media provided.
24:11
Speaker 4: Was pivotal for me in shaping in structuring the film.
24:17
Speaker 7: One of Media team provided me the psychological safety, industrial
24:20
Speaker 7: mentorship that I had no idea I needed.
24:29
Speaker 4: Through there show documentary filmmaking Four of You was just the.
24:32
Speaker 8: Partifical place for me to build and to grow my
24:34
Speaker 8: career with international media interitutes.
24:37
Speaker 7: One Media connects me to filmmakers on the grassroots, bridging
24:41
Speaker 7: journalists to broadcasters.
24:42
Speaker 9: Like the BBC.
24:50
Speaker 8: One World Media One motivates me to continue to work
24:53
Speaker 8: on such stories and uncover issues of environmental injustice.
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Speaker 1: So this is effectively an organization grooming other media, particularly
25:10
Speaker 1: in developing countries. But let's have a look and see
25:13
Speaker 1: how independent it is. If we bring this on screen,
25:16
Speaker 1: have a look at the trustees and oh dear, what
25:18
Speaker 1: do we find. We find that actually Murial lamin head
25:22
Speaker 1: of Business Development BBC World Service, is one of the trustees.
25:26
Speaker 1: But to give you an example of the power base,
25:28
Speaker 1: here is Marizio Sadapaz, who's global head of Sales Bank
25:33
Speaker 1: of America. And if we get further into this organization
25:37
Speaker 1: for the partners, we quickly see the BBC is one
25:40
Speaker 1: of them, so no independence here, but also the British Council.
25:44
Speaker 1: And here's the money European Bank and the European Investment Bank.
25:48
Speaker 1: So this is exactly the same setup that Ben has
25:52
Speaker 1: been talking about at the start of the news today.
25:55
Speaker 1: But of course this is the power of the media
25:57
Speaker 1: and if we have a look at it here this
26:01
Speaker 1: is how to join and give vast sums of money.
26:04
Speaker 1: But down at the bottom it's talking about the Global
26:06
Speaker 1: Forum for Media Development. And if we have a look
26:09
Speaker 1: at that. This brings us straight back into George Soros
26:13
Speaker 1: and Open Society, and we've got the National Endowment for
26:17
Speaker 1: Democracy and Open Society foundations. And if we have a
26:21
Speaker 1: look at what they call programmatic funders, we then get
26:26
Speaker 1: back into the power base. We've got the Swiss government,
26:28
Speaker 1: we've got BBC Media Action, and indeed we've also got
26:32
Speaker 1: Open Society. So we'll leave that one there. But nothing
26:36
Speaker 1: works without the power of the media, and the power
26:39
Speaker 1: of the established media is to close down free speech,
26:44
Speaker 1: to stop people calling out the attacks that are coming
26:47
Speaker 1: in from the government and these global elites. Diane, let's
26:51
Speaker 1: bring you on, because of course, closing down free speech
26:55
Speaker 1: is heavily targeted at the moment at academia.
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Speaker 10: Thanks Brian, and hello Ben. It's good to be here today.
27:03
Speaker 10: I have been seeing in the news and I don't
27:05
Speaker 10: know if it's because it's happening more often or because
27:07
Speaker 10: it's finally just starting to come out more of more
27:10
Speaker 10: and more academics who are being attacked for a free
27:12
Speaker 10: speech and for trying to share the truth on what's
27:15
Speaker 10: been happening to them as a result of practicing their
27:18
Speaker 10: free speech rights.
27:20
Speaker 2: I want to first.
27:20
Speaker 10: Call to everyone the work of Professor Frank Freddy, who
27:25
Speaker 10: has been at the forefront of a lot of this
27:28
Speaker 10: for a long time, and he had a new book
27:30
Speaker 10: out come out recently called The War Against the Past,
27:33
Speaker 10: Why the West Must Fight for its History and of
27:36
Speaker 10: course his book launch. I have the book right here.
27:38
Speaker 10: It's an amazing book. I highly recommend it. It was
27:41
Speaker 10: his book launch was canceled at a place in the
27:44
Speaker 10: West where he was going to talk about what is
27:46
Speaker 10: happening to our history. Unfortunately, we have other academics who
27:50
Speaker 10: are talking more about academics who had to leave the
27:53
Speaker 10: UK because they had pro Brexit views, for example, and
27:58
Speaker 10: the person who had went through this said, well, it's
28:00
Speaker 10: just a place of a nation now in any UK
28:03
Speaker 10: university that we can no longer speak out about what
28:06
Speaker 10: we really think as a professional. We have an Oxford
28:08
Speaker 10: professor recently who called out the state schools in the UK.
28:13
Speaker 10: We're seeing that students who go to state schools can't
28:16
Speaker 10: read books. And what he says is that those students
28:19
Speaker 10: come from disadvantaged schools where the teacher's main task is
28:22
Speaker 10: crowd control and the demands in terms of reading long
28:25
Speaker 10: books are just not there. That sounds really harsh, but
28:28
Speaker 10: it is actually the reality. We have a professor here
28:31
Speaker 10: at the University of Edinburgh who had a major hit
28:33
Speaker 10: piece come out on him recently in The Times saying
28:36
Speaker 10: that he was spreading this information about what's going on
28:39
Speaker 10: in Ukraine and Syria. UK Coluin viewers will know that
28:41
Speaker 10: probably a lot of what he said is actually more
28:43
Speaker 10: of the reality of what's going on compared to what
28:45
Speaker 10: we see in the mainstream news. I would also like
28:48
Speaker 10: to point out the recent UK column article from doctor
28:52
Speaker 10: Pierce Robinson called attacks on academic freedom the Times of
28:56
Speaker 10: London and six just to get another example of someone
28:59
Speaker 10: who's trying to explain what's actually happening and what people
29:03
Speaker 10: need to know and what happened to him as a result.
29:06
Speaker 10: So there's a really good article that came out a
29:08
Speaker 10: few days ago as well, from the twenty fifth of September,
29:11
Speaker 10: which was recommended to me by a colleague in the
29:14
Speaker 10: Higher Education group of the Scottish Union for Education, called
29:17
Speaker 10: The Intolerant Age, How creeping censorship captured Britain's institutions. And
29:22
Speaker 10: I just want to read you a little excerpt from
29:23
Speaker 10: this article because this shows what's happening to students. So
29:27
Speaker 10: we had a student recently who graduated. This is at
29:29
Speaker 10: the University of Exeter, and he thought that this would
29:33
Speaker 10: never happen to him. When he went to university, he
29:36
Speaker 10: ran for president of the Exeter Debating Society as a
29:39
Speaker 10: moderate conservative is what he calls himself. And against him,
29:43
Speaker 10: somebody started up a campaign called stop the Fascist. He
29:46
Speaker 10: was viewed that way, he said, because he was standing
29:48
Speaker 10: up for free speech. I was told by the university
29:51
Speaker 10: that in order to prove that I shouldn't be disciplined,
29:53
Speaker 10: he says, I had to prove I didn't cause harm
29:56
Speaker 10: even if I didn't intend to to the other. Student
30:00
Speaker 10: regulations state that disciplinary offenses include actions which cause actual
30:04
Speaker 10: or potential distress or harm to others, irrespective of whether
30:09
Speaker 10: or not distress or harm was intended. So they said,
30:13
Speaker 10: if concerns our complaints are raised by the members of
30:16
Speaker 10: the community, if they have a concern, we are duty
30:19
Speaker 10: bound to investigate them fully, regardless of whether any harm
30:22
Speaker 10: was caused or not. So we see once again as
30:25
Speaker 10: students are under attack as well. There's a really good
30:28
Speaker 10: book that I would like to recommend as well. If
30:30
Speaker 10: you're interested in this topic. It's called diversity, inclusion, equity
30:34
Speaker 10: and the threat to academic freedom or the I would
30:37
Speaker 10: call it DIE just for short.
30:38
Speaker 9: Die.
30:39
Speaker 10: This talks quite a bit about in the introduction section
30:43
Speaker 10: the forward to this book, it gives a lot of
30:45
Speaker 10: examples of individual cases of academic freedom and academics being
30:49
Speaker 10: canceled or no flatform, silenced, losing their job, et cetera.
30:53
Speaker 10: It's a really good book though, because it talks quite
30:55
Speaker 10: a bit about what the reality is what of die,
30:59
Speaker 10: And a lot of it has to do with identity politics.
31:02
Speaker 10: So what you belong to is incredibly relevant more and
31:06
Speaker 10: more to whether or not a student is suitable to
31:09
Speaker 10: study academic topics. And this might include the intersectionality which
31:13
Speaker 10: they talk about. I identify as a CIS trans woman,
31:18
Speaker 10: putting all these different words together black, so race comes
31:22
Speaker 10: into it, sexuality comes into it, gender identity comes into it,
31:25
Speaker 10: and saying that, well, I have this particular position and
31:28
Speaker 10: this is why it's important for me as an individual
31:31
Speaker 10: to study this topic. So let's see some examples of
31:34
Speaker 10: the institutions that are pushing this. University's UK, which is
31:38
Speaker 10: a collective voice of one hundred and forty one universities
31:41
Speaker 10: around the UK, so that all these they all have
31:44
Speaker 10: these particular statements enforcing this equality, diversity and inclusion. We
31:48
Speaker 10: believe anyone who had benefit from university education should have
31:51
Speaker 10: access to one. Well, lots of people can benefit from one,
31:54
Speaker 10: but if they can't read a full book, they they
31:56
Speaker 10: might not be able to be at university, or maybe
31:58
Speaker 10: they shouldn't be, but we're producing these kinds of graduates anyway,
32:01
Speaker 10: even if they really shouldn't be at university. The NUS,
32:05
Speaker 10: which is the National Union for Students, talks about national
32:08
Speaker 10: change for students. If you look at their website, they
32:10
Speaker 10: talk about issues affecting people across society, including champion LGBTQ
32:16
Speaker 10: plus rights, pushing to decolonize education. Together, we've been a
32:20
Speaker 10: force for radical change since nineteen twenty two and we
32:24
Speaker 10: are open to all. We champion diversity and we allow
32:26
Speaker 10: every student to thrive. So where have we heard that
32:29
Speaker 10: elsewhere with radical change and some of these agendas even
32:32
Speaker 10: outside of universities. The University University College Union for November
32:36
Speaker 10: of twenty nineteen has a position on trans inclusion and
32:41
Speaker 10: specifically they say that they have a long history of
32:45
Speaker 10: enabling members to self identify, whether that is being black, disabled,
32:49
Speaker 10: LGBT or women. I didn't know you could self identify
32:53
Speaker 10: as being disabled or black, but anyway, that's what they claim,
32:56
Speaker 10: and they have a women's conference which reaffirms that our
33:00
Speaker 10: women's structures within the Union belong to all self identifying women.
33:05
Speaker 10: I wonder if that includes the man that I saw
33:07
Speaker 10: walking out of the women's toilets recently in the library,
33:11
Speaker 10: wearing a skirt and makeup and looking at me like
33:14
Speaker 10: I was the problem that he was the self identifying
33:16
Speaker 10: woman who should be there and what did I have
33:18
Speaker 10: any business going into women's loop. We also look at
33:22
Speaker 10: some of the funders who are out there in terms
33:24
Speaker 10: of what they support. So this is the welcome trust
33:28
Speaker 10: informing things like amr Anti Macribbler resistance, which we've covered
33:31
Speaker 10: previously on the column. Genomics has endless potential if everyone
33:35
Speaker 10: is included, So now we're even talking about die for
33:38
Speaker 10: genomics and looking at genetic structuring of people, making sure
33:43
Speaker 10: that we're including people from the global South so that
33:45
Speaker 10: we're incredibly inclusive. We also have the Netfield Foundation, which
33:49
Speaker 10: is another common defunder in medicine. Justice and effective, fair
33:52
Speaker 10: and accessible justice system is fundamental to society. And to
33:56
Speaker 10: societal well being. We want to see a modern justice
33:59
Speaker 10: system that delivers equitable processes and outcomes for all. UKRI,
34:05
Speaker 10: which is UK Research and Innovation, is funded by HM Treasury,
34:09
Speaker 10: which receives its money primarily through taxes. For twenty twenty
34:12
Speaker 10: four to twenty five, they have a total budget of
34:15
Speaker 10: almost nine billion pounds. So let's see in this next
34:20
Speaker 10: shirt video clip what kinds of things UKARI wants to prioritize.
34:26
Speaker 11: Research and innovation have transformed our lives for the better.
34:30
Speaker 11: Making yesterday's science fiction today's reality. From cancer therapies to
34:34
Speaker 11: clean energy, from art conservation to astronomy, we can see
34:38
Speaker 11: and feel progress all around us. Today's complex challenges need
34:43
Speaker 11: people with different experiences, skills and knowledge to work together,
34:47
Speaker 11: challenging each other to support improvements, and working outside traditional silos.
34:53
Speaker 11: That's why UK Research and Innovation is stepping up its
34:56
Speaker 11: work in five broad areas that touch.
34:58
Speaker 12: All our lives.
35:00
Speaker 11: Building a green future, building a secure and resilient world,
35:04
Speaker 11: Creating opportunities and improving outcomes for everyone wherever you live.
35:09
Speaker 11: Securing better health, aging and well being for all of us.
35:13
Speaker 11: Tackling infections facing not just humans but animals. And plants too.
35:19
Speaker 11: We're bringing the research and innovation community closer together, building
35:23
Speaker 11: on what pioneers in the past have already taught us
35:25
Speaker 11: to make a difference in each of these areas in
35:28
Speaker 11: a way that people, families, businesses and communities across the
35:31
Speaker 11: country can see and be a part of five strategic
35:36
Speaker 11: themes to guide our work and transform tomorrow together.
35:43
Speaker 10: Did you catch the COVID vac scene in there anyway? Anyway,
35:49
Speaker 10: So we have within the UKARI, we have a couple
35:52
Speaker 10: of we have several sort of separate councils. So one
35:55
Speaker 10: is the Economic and Social Research Council. They talk about
35:58
Speaker 10: sustaining a world class day and inclusive social science research
36:02
Speaker 10: base that supports talent across the entire research career through equality,
36:06
Speaker 10: diversity and inclusion supported by a world class organization, building
36:10
Speaker 10: an inclusive and diverse workforce. And HRC, which is the
36:13
Speaker 10: Arts and Humanities Research Council, has supported by a world
36:17
Speaker 10: class organization including positive action on equality, diversity and inclusion
36:22
Speaker 10: in our funded portfolio, so we can see this throughout.
36:25
Speaker 10: And then finally, just one more example from the European Commission,
36:29
Speaker 10: which is HERRIZ in Europe, which the UK is now
36:31
Speaker 10: once again able to apply for funding through which we
36:34
Speaker 10: weren't for a few years post for exit. But now
36:37
Speaker 10: it says that their main tackling climate change, helping to
36:41
Speaker 10: achieve the UNS sustainable development goals and boost the EUS
36:45
Speaker 10: competitiiveusness and growth. They're funding from twenty twenty one to
36:49
Speaker 10: twenty twenty seven is ninety three point five billion euros.
36:53
Speaker 10: So I'd like to ask what is the role of
36:56
Speaker 10: academia when what we're trying to be doing is getting
36:59
Speaker 10: research funding from these particular institutions and funding bodies, when
37:03
Speaker 10: we see very clearly what the priorities are. Do you
37:06
Speaker 10: think that academic freedom is even possible anymore?
37:08
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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and we've got one further one Summit to the
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I did another couple of films. This one was looking
39:19
Speaker 3: at there's Sumit of the Future of the end of
39:21
Speaker 3: September from the un and just deconstructing what they've actually
39:24
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39:27
Speaker 3: because it's really fascinating when you dig into it. And
39:30
Speaker 3: then the final film as well, Brian and I are
39:37
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39:39
Speaker 3: then there's there's also Once Upon a Future, which is
39:43
Speaker 3: basically looking how they're focusing specifically on youth gen z
39:46
Speaker 3: jen Alpha as they're now calling it to to rush
39:50
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39:52
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you very much for that. And a really
39:55
Speaker 1: interesting interview going out tomorrow with Daniel new who's talking
39:58
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40:02
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40:12
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40:16
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40:19
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40:24
Speaker 1: an apology and bring you back on screen. Not an
40:27
Speaker 1: apology for you, but I think you're about to show somebody.
40:34
Speaker 3: Yes, we're going to show a quick video quick clip
40:36
Speaker 3: actually about from Goals House, which is the proper global
40:40
Speaker 3: propaganda hub for these new un sustainable development goals and
40:43
Speaker 3: they ran one of their events at the You and
40:45
Speaker 3: General Assembly in New York at the end of September.
40:48
Speaker 2: Let's take a look.
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41:37
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41:45
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41:47
Speaker 9: We've all got to make progress if any of us
41:50
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Speaker 15: And I've just come from a really excellent roundtable that
41:56
Speaker 15: we hosted here on the opportunity of AI as a
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42:03
Speaker 15: energy footprint and how do we work together to better
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Speaker 12: Probably the best thing that leaders can do to protect
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42:17
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42:20
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42:25
Speaker 3: Hall just a little window into the lives of an
42:31
Speaker 3: extraordinarily privileged and well funded international supposed elite in the
42:36
Speaker 3: corporate and political and philanthropic worlds who are driving this
42:40
Speaker 3: agenda forwards, and they're doing it in places like Goals House.
42:43
Speaker 3: Let's just have a quick look at some of the
42:44
Speaker 3: individuals we've seen on screen. So I'm sorry to do
42:47
Speaker 3: this to you, but it is Tony Blair. He's right
42:49
Speaker 3: in the mix here, absolutely in the thick of it,
42:52
Speaker 3: leading the conversation. And there is a big UK contingent, right,
42:55
Speaker 3: So we've got minor royals, or fairly minor royals that's
42:58
Speaker 3: probably doing bad as a disservice. She does look a
43:02
Speaker 3: little bit like a rabbit in the headlights in these things,
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Speaker 3: I've got to say. And then also we had Harry there,
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Speaker 3: and just worth noting the girl's house is run by
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Speaker 3: Freud's group, who also run all of the communications for
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Speaker 3: Astrakata and Terra Carter. They got very close links into
43:16
Speaker 3: the royal family and Matthew Freud actually described the British
43:19
Speaker 3: monarch as a god in a recent interview with former
43:23
Speaker 3: Son editor David Yillen. You go and have a listen
43:25
Speaker 3: to that. Anyway, I don't think any of these people
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Speaker 3: are gods. So who else was there? Amy Brascio, who's
43:31
Speaker 3: now running sustainability at e Y. So this is right
43:34
Speaker 3: in the thick of the global public private marketplace, the
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Speaker 3: fascist system that's being used to roll out this agenda.
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Speaker 2: We also had Eric Loan from Salesforce.
43:44
Speaker 3: Which is founded by Mark Bennioff, who is a member
43:48
Speaker 3: of Linda Rothschild's Council for Inclusive Capitalism. So this ecosystem,
43:54
Speaker 3: this network is basically all the same.
43:56
Speaker 2: It's the same thing. You know, we're talking about global corruption.
43:59
Speaker 3: They have different lives, go is a few different faces,
44:01
Speaker 3: but the language and the agenda is the same.
44:03
Speaker 2: It's all going in the same direction.
44:05
Speaker 3: It's being driven by these big tech firms like Salesforce,
44:08
Speaker 3: like Google absolutely at the center of this. So we
44:12
Speaker 3: heard Kate Brand there, who's the chief sustainability officer at Google,
44:15
Speaker 3: talking about using AI to fix the climate crisis. And
44:19
Speaker 3: it's kind of hilarious because these people are tying themselves
44:21
Speaker 3: in knots at the minute about how much electricity artificial
44:25
Speaker 3: intelligence uses whilst they're using it to try to fix
44:28
Speaker 3: climate crisis. Makes absolutely no sense, right, But you know,
44:31
Speaker 3: does that matter?
44:32
Speaker 2: Probably?
44:33
Speaker 3: Actually, But we'll find out what happens there. And this
44:37
Speaker 3: is kind of the lifestyle that we're talking about, you know.
44:39
Speaker 3: So you've got ethnically diverse female DJs playing music and
44:43
Speaker 3: expensive bars in New York and a lot of these
44:45
Speaker 3: people think that that is their role to play in
44:48
Speaker 3: saving the world. Right, if only it was so easy.
44:52
Speaker 3: We cut the video shorts, so we didn't actually get
44:54
Speaker 3: onto some of it because it's about three minutes long.
44:56
Speaker 3: We'll provide a link to it in the show notes.
44:58
Speaker 3: But we also had this crowd, which is one hundred
45:00
Speaker 3: Davos women crowd. It's just literally well connected, rich women
45:04
Speaker 3: flying around the world to find high paid jobs for
45:06
Speaker 3: themselves and their other rich friends. Right, it's literally what
45:09
Speaker 3: we're looking at here in the name of sustainable development. Supposedly,
45:13
Speaker 3: we've got a top person from Comic Relief in the
45:16
Speaker 3: US who was very keen to talk about the youth agenda,
45:19
Speaker 3: which is a big part of how this thing's going
45:20
Speaker 3: to be implemented or how they'd like to implement it,
45:23
Speaker 3: and who's paying for it.
45:24
Speaker 2: All of these people as per usual.
45:27
Speaker 1: Ben, thank you very much. And it is all the
45:29
Speaker 1: usual people, isn't it. There's no doubt about that. Every
45:33
Speaker 1: time we're doing analysis on this, we seem to be
45:36
Speaker 1: coming up with these individuals. While they're whining and dining
45:39
Speaker 1: at the finest restaurants, eating the best possible food and
45:43
Speaker 1: drinking the finest wines, they're not suffering. Diane tell us
45:47
Speaker 1: about the suffering that hurricanes are doing currently and have
45:53
Speaker 1: done in the past.
45:58
Speaker 2: Yes.
45:59
Speaker 10: Three. First, I lived through some very personal experienced Hurricane
46:04
Speaker 10: Katrina and Rita, which was in two thousand and five,
46:07
Speaker 10: And so what I think I would like to do
46:09
Speaker 10: is trace back to what happened in two thousand and
46:12
Speaker 10: five and for several years following, and then lead us
46:14
Speaker 10: up to where we are now and just make a
46:16
Speaker 10: little bit of commentary on the politization and the media
46:21
Speaker 10: issues related to the recent hurricanes. So if you could
46:24
Speaker 10: please watch this video, this is just a minute and
46:26
Speaker 10: a half of old CNN coverage covering the aftermath which
46:29
Speaker 10: was truly devastating on Hurricane Katrina.
46:33
Speaker 14: In the evening hours after Hurricane Katrina struck, we still
46:37
Speaker 14: were getting close ups of the crisis, mere hints at
46:40
Speaker 14: that point of the devastation, the loss, and the struggle
46:43
Speaker 14: to survive.
46:45
Speaker 2: Do you have any almost broken bones?
46:48
Speaker 14: Into the night, it started to become evident this truly
46:51
Speaker 14: is a disaster beyond what many people had imagined. So
46:55
Speaker 14: many rescues, the Coastguard carrying at least one hundred people
46:58
Speaker 14: from one community, boatload after boatload to safety. So many
47:03
Speaker 14: stories to tell.
47:05
Speaker 2: It's horrific.
47:06
Speaker 12: It was horrific.
47:06
Speaker 2: I kept only kept a cool head. Tell my wife
47:08
Speaker 2: we're going to survive, and she was panic.
47:10
Speaker 14: The morning after, eighty percent of New Orleans was underwater,
47:14
Speaker 14: up to twenty feet in some places. The flooding made
47:17
Speaker 14: worse by a break in the seventeenth Street Canal, unleashing
47:21
Speaker 14: a gusher that swallowed homes and entire communities.
47:24
Speaker 1: The city's a bowl.
47:25
Speaker 12: It's like a box hub with large.
47:28
Speaker 1: Ponts below sea level, so that the estimates art would
47:32
Speaker 1: take you know, three months, ninety days to get rid
47:35
Speaker 1: of that water.
47:36
Speaker 14: A city in ruins, from the vast cavern of the
47:39
Speaker 14: Superdome to downtown hotels and so many homes and so
47:44
Speaker 14: many people who live there trapped.
47:47
Speaker 16: We've got to rescue in progress or worse.
47:50
Speaker 5: We gotta been the roof all the way to the roof,
47:52
Speaker 5: and water came and had just open dived.
47:58
Speaker 12: Who was at your house with you?
48:00
Speaker 15: Wife?
48:01
Speaker 7: Where is she now?
48:02
Speaker 10: Okay?
48:03
Speaker 14: For everybody she goes.
48:08
Speaker 10: So Hurricane Katrina mid landfall the twenty ninth of August
48:11
Speaker 10: two thousand and five. People were stranded for days, and
48:15
Speaker 10: by the time got to September, the second two thousand
48:18
Speaker 10: and five. What did President George Bush have to say
48:21
Speaker 10: about just the devastations find out.
48:25
Speaker 16: And Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job. FEMUR
48:27
Speaker 16: directors working twenty four they're working twenty four hours a day. Again,
48:37
Speaker 16: my attitude is, if it's not going exactly right, we're
48:40
Speaker 16: gonna make it go exactly right. If there's problems, we're
48:44
Speaker 16: gonna address the problems. And that's and that's what I've
48:48
Speaker 16: come down to assure people. And again, i want to
48:51
Speaker 16: thank everybody, and I'm not looking forward to this trip.
48:55
Speaker 16: I got a feel for it when I flew over before.
48:59
Speaker 16: For those those who have not camp trying to conceive
49:02
Speaker 16: what we're talking about. It's as if the entire Gulf
49:06
Speaker 16: Coast were obliterated by the worst kind of weapon you
49:09
Speaker 16: can imagine. And now we're going to go try to
49:13
Speaker 16: comfort people in that part of the world.
49:15
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
49:22
Speaker 10: So if you weren't aware, Michael Brown, who referred to
49:26
Speaker 10: there as Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job,
49:28
Speaker 10: was the only experience that he had before directing FEMA,
49:31
Speaker 10: which is the Federal Emergency Management Association responsible for disaster recovery,
49:36
Speaker 10: was that he was the commissioner of the International Arabian
49:39
Speaker 10: Horse Association for nine years and he ended up leaving
49:42
Speaker 10: that job and then suddenly he's in charge of emergency
49:45
Speaker 10: management for the entire country. So you know, there's a
49:48
Speaker 10: lot of questions around what the FEMA trailers that were
49:51
Speaker 10: that happened at the time, because there were tens of
49:54
Speaker 10: thousands of people who lost their homes. These FEMA trailers
49:56
Speaker 10: were put into place to have people have a place
49:59
Speaker 10: to Unfortunately, they were not safe places to live. They
50:03
Speaker 10: were filled with formaldehyde. People were getting really sick living
50:06
Speaker 10: in them. They were not adequate for any sort of
50:09
Speaker 10: human consumption at all whatsoever, but that's what they had
50:12
Speaker 10: and they stayed in them in sub cases until twenty twelve,
50:15
Speaker 10: and eventually there were claims of almost fifteen million dollars
50:19
Speaker 10: to try to recover the damages that people experienced after
50:22
Speaker 10: living in these trailers. So I was in New Orleans
50:27
Speaker 10: in two thousand and six. In June. It was the
50:30
Speaker 10: first conference that came back. So we have from August
50:32
Speaker 10: two thousand and five until June two thousand and six,
50:35
Speaker 10: and the first conference they came back was the American
50:37
Speaker 10: Library Association conference which I attended. The convention Center was
50:41
Speaker 10: one of these places where they held people for days
50:43
Speaker 10: before they were able to get them out. These were
50:45
Speaker 10: generally the people who were too poor to leave or
50:47
Speaker 10: evacuate on their own. So what happened at the convention center, Well,
50:52
Speaker 10: the next photo that these are all my photos, by
50:54
Speaker 10: the way. The next photo shows that part of the
50:56
Speaker 10: convention center, and this was June two thousand and five,
50:58
Speaker 10: ten months later, still covered where you couldn't see in
51:02
Speaker 10: because the devastation was still too awful to be seen.
51:06
Speaker 10: So there was only part of the convention Center that
51:09
Speaker 10: was opened up. And that's the level that we were
51:11
Speaker 10: talking about in terms of recovery. A lot of photos,
51:15
Speaker 10: over and over again we see the water line on
51:17
Speaker 10: these houses, and this was mile after mile. I took
51:19
Speaker 10: a bus tour that showed us some of the devastation,
51:22
Speaker 10: and we really went to more of the middle class areas,
51:25
Speaker 10: and obviously the lower class areas were even worse. But
51:27
Speaker 10: we saw a house after house like this completely destroyed.
51:31
Speaker 10: Here's another one, a nicer house at one point, obviously
51:35
Speaker 10: now completely obliterated, to use George W. Bush's term, And
51:39
Speaker 10: we see again here the photos of in this case,
51:43
Speaker 10: what were called the crosses, the Katrina Crosses in the
51:47
Speaker 10: show that there's an article, a really good article about
51:49
Speaker 10: these where they were spray painting information on every house
51:52
Speaker 10: and it included information like how many dead bodies were
51:55
Speaker 10: found in the house, how many people were stranded, how
51:59
Speaker 10: many animals were found, how many dead animals were found,
52:02
Speaker 10: and so on. So the eyes of the Storm, which
52:05
Speaker 10: was from the people that the Dallas Moorni News, were
52:08
Speaker 10: some of people that I interviewed for the PhD dissertation
52:10
Speaker 10: when I finished by PhD on Vota journals and professionals
52:14
Speaker 10: talked a lot about their experiences of going there and
52:16
Speaker 10: filming and what and they were actually involved in recovery
52:19
Speaker 10: efforts because FEMA didn't send enough people to help them.
52:22
Speaker 10: And so we see, like over and over again that
52:25
Speaker 10: we saw this failure on FEMA's side. So now we
52:29
Speaker 10: come into you know, this year, we have two hurricanes
52:32
Speaker 10: which were not as intense at all as Katrina and
52:35
Speaker 10: Rita were in two thousand and five. But what's happening.
52:38
Speaker 10: They're politicizing the situation. So what did Biden say a
52:41
Speaker 10: few days ago about Hurricane Milton see the video?
52:48
Speaker 16: Are you kidding me, mister President Trump, former President Trump.
52:55
Speaker 2: Get a life, man, help these people and.
53:02
Speaker 13: Topical hold overcome you better than impress whole overcome because
53:05
Speaker 13: you know the truth.
53:09
Speaker 10: Oh so it appears though President Biden doesn't think he's
53:16
Speaker 10: president right now, he's going back to President Trump. What
53:19
Speaker 10: did Kamala Harris say a few days ago on the
53:22
Speaker 10: view about the hurricanes?
53:24
Speaker 7: Right now, there is a monster storm barreling towards my
53:27
Speaker 7: state of Florida, a place that's still reeling from Hurricane Helene.
53:32
Speaker 7: Trump is lying, claiming that the Biden administration is intentionally
53:36
Speaker 7: withholding aid from the areas where Republicans live, and that
53:40
Speaker 7: FEMA funds are being redirected to migrants. Ironically, that is
53:45
Speaker 7: something he did in twenty nineteen. What do you think
53:50
Speaker 7: the effect of these lies are and why is he
53:53
Speaker 7: doing this?
53:56
Speaker 9: It's profound and it is the height of irresponse ability
54:00
Speaker 9: and frankly callousness. So lives are literally at stake right now.
54:07
Speaker 9: I traveled to Georgia and to North Carolina after Hurricane Helene.
54:11
Speaker 9: In Georgia, I met a woman who just days earlier,
54:17
Speaker 9: her husband was killed in their home by a fallen tree.
54:24
Speaker 10: So what we're seeing here is manipulation. We're seeing the
54:28
Speaker 10: people they were rapped up the fear on heading up
54:30
Speaker 10: to the hurricanes, which you know, not to say that
54:32
Speaker 10: lives weren't lost, because they were. But we see Kamala
54:35
Speaker 10: Harris saying someone got hit by a tree. Well, if
54:38
Speaker 10: she had been watching the devastation that has happened for
54:42
Speaker 10: hundreds of years and you know, even in our lifetimes
54:44
Speaker 10: these things like Katrina and Rita, to know the horrible
54:47
Speaker 10: things that happened to people. And she's like, someone was
54:50
Speaker 10: hit by a tree, and somehow that's supposed to create
54:53
Speaker 10: all of this emotional reaction. We're also seeing a lot
54:56
Speaker 10: of back and forth from FEMA about the budget for
55:00
Speaker 10: disaster relief. We're seeing a lot of labels around you know, well,
55:04
Speaker 10: people are dying, but they're also seeing they're running out
55:06
Speaker 10: of money. We see that FEMA spent four point nine
55:10
Speaker 10: billion dollars on COVID in one month, twenty times more
55:13
Speaker 10: than on aid for Hurricane Helene. We're also seeing as well,
55:17
Speaker 10: information that they are labeling as misinformation or disinformation, where
55:23
Speaker 10: we're talking about well, it's all because of disinformation, blaming
55:26
Speaker 10: Donald Trump largely around it that it's all Donald Trump's fault,
55:31
Speaker 10: so they can say that because he's not an office currently.
55:33
Speaker 10: I guess there's been a lot around seven hundred and
55:37
Speaker 10: fifty dollars for hurricane disaster payments, and Trump is saying, well,
55:40
Speaker 10: that's all they're giving them on the Democrat side is
55:42
Speaker 10: seven hundred and fifty dollars, when actually seven hundred and
55:45
Speaker 10: fifty dollars is what they're saying is the initial payment.
55:48
Speaker 10: So we'll see what happens. There's been some discussion around this,
55:52
Speaker 10: and I don't have any way to verify this, but
55:53
Speaker 10: I just thought it would throw it out there that
55:55
Speaker 10: Tampa was the main city that was in the line
55:57
Speaker 10: of Hurricane Milton a few days ago. Some damage there,
56:00
Speaker 10: although not as much as they expected. So there's been
56:03
Speaker 10: If you go back to twenty sixteen, we can see
56:05
Speaker 10: the discussion of Bill Gates and his colleagues wanting to
56:08
Speaker 10: build a fifteen minute city ecosystem in Tampa, and there
56:12
Speaker 10: is millions of billions of dollars that we're already allocated
56:16
Speaker 10: to this work back in twenty sixteen, and they have
56:20
Speaker 10: right now a system called Tampa Moves, which is again
56:23
Speaker 10: based on equity diversity, safety, mobility, opportunity. That this is
56:28
Speaker 10: all being implemented by the current mayor of Tampa. So
56:31
Speaker 10: I'm not saying that this is actually what is going
56:34
Speaker 10: on and that the hurricane has anything to do with it,
56:36
Speaker 10: but I just thought it was an interesting thing to
56:38
Speaker 10: potentially point out. One other thing I would also like
56:41
Speaker 10: to point out is that the Trump is attacking from
56:45
Speaker 10: the other side saying, well, he's saying, well, all the
56:48
Speaker 10: money's going to migrants, so it should be going to FEMA.
56:51
Speaker 10: I'm not really sure what's going on different pots of
56:53
Speaker 10: money and so on, but basically what we're seeing is
56:55
Speaker 10: just a lot of political things going on in the
56:58
Speaker 10: days getting very close to the American election, when actually
57:02
Speaker 10: there was some damage down there were some lives at sticks,
57:04
Speaker 10: but potentially not as much as the fear was trying
57:07
Speaker 10: to get us leading up to Hurricane Milton. But again
57:10
Speaker 10: there was again damage that happened. And also just finally
57:13
Speaker 10: to point out here, there's always the un the globless
57:16
Speaker 10: are always involved, the Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Change. I
57:20
Speaker 10: just want to say that there has been a lot
57:23
Speaker 10: of interest in how much money is going back to
57:26
Speaker 10: or from the United Nations and whether or not there
57:29
Speaker 10: is any financial implication to the hurricanes that just seem
57:33
Speaker 10: to keep happening. Brian, I don't have any answer. I
57:35
Speaker 10: just want to throw it out there.
57:38
Speaker 1: Okay, don thank you very much. Well, a lot of
57:40
Speaker 1: people suffering and just disgusting that a political system in
57:43
Speaker 1: America is using that for political advantage and not getting
57:47
Speaker 1: down to assisting people on the ground. But we've got
57:52
Speaker 1: this callous manipulation going on here in the UK. I
57:57
Speaker 1: had a look at the Ministry at Defense Twitter page
58:01
Speaker 1: this morning, and what do I see. I see posts
58:04
Speaker 1: about the work that UK is doing to train military
58:09
Speaker 1: and civilian staff in Ukraine to deal with the injuries.
58:13
Speaker 1: The number of Ukrainian dead and injured has risen steeply
58:17
Speaker 1: because of course they're now retreating many places on the
58:20
Speaker 1: front But the Ministry of Defense in UK does not
58:23
Speaker 1: want to talk about this. It talks about the training
58:26
Speaker 1: to deal with the casualties, and then it tries to
58:29
Speaker 1: say that because the Russian casualties have increased, which of
58:33
Speaker 1: course it will if they're if they are advancing and
58:36
Speaker 1: attacking on the front lines. The whole of the spin
58:40
Speaker 1: of this pernicious site is that it's Russia that's suffering
58:44
Speaker 1: the huge casualties, Whereas the truth is it is the
58:48
Speaker 1: Ukrainians that are suffering the huge casualties because the battle
58:52
Speaker 1: front for the Ukrainians is now starting to collapse and
58:56
Speaker 1: as the Ukrainian troops retreat, they do not have strong
59:00
Speaker 1: defensive positions and therefore they're taking casualties. But if we
59:05
Speaker 1: have a look at this BBC report, he's the headline
59:09
Speaker 1: fighting Russia low morale. This is a truth because at
59:12
Speaker 1: the moment there's an increasing number of desertions amongst the
59:16
Speaker 1: Ukrainian troops, so low morale on Ukraine's most dangerous front line.
59:21
Speaker 1: But the BBC hides the brutal truth in plain sight
59:25
Speaker 1: because under that photo was a statement. Let's have a
59:28
Speaker 1: look at the statement, because Alexander said we have not
59:33
Speaker 1: been ablized to stabilize the front. What is he talking about.
59:37
Speaker 1: He's talking about the fact that the Ukrainian front lines
59:40
Speaker 1: are collapsing under the weight of the Russian attack and
59:44
Speaker 1: in retreat, the Ukrainian forces are being decimated. But of
59:48
Speaker 1: course the BBC and the UK Ministry of Defense do
59:52
Speaker 1: not want to tell the UK public the facts. Now
59:55
Speaker 1: I'm going to remind people that we reported a little
59:59
Speaker 1: while ago, so that the Ministry at Defense received a
1:00:04
Speaker 1: freedom of information request asking how many British service personnel
1:00:08
Speaker 1: had died while carrying out duties in Ukraine since May
1:00:12
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and how many had been injured. Well,
1:00:16
Speaker 1: the response from the Ministry of Defense at the time
1:00:19
Speaker 1: was essentially that we need to have a look at
1:00:22
Speaker 1: this because we're not sure it would be in the
1:00:24
Speaker 1: public interest. But they did subsequently in the final paragraph
1:00:30
Speaker 1: of the response say we will respond by the twenty
1:00:35
Speaker 1: fifth of September twenty twenty four. Actually there has been silence,
1:00:39
Speaker 1: so the Ministry of Defense in uk well passed the deadline.
1:00:43
Speaker 1: They do not want to tell the truth about British
1:00:46
Speaker 1: military killed and injured in Ukraine, so at the moment, silence,
1:00:51
Speaker 1: no response. But this is where it gets really bad,
1:00:55
Speaker 1: because when a local politician was asked about casualties, he
1:00:59
Speaker 1: said this, I would like to reassure you that there
1:01:02
Speaker 1: have been no British Armed Forces personnel who've been deployed
1:01:06
Speaker 1: in Ukraine, nor are their plans to send British soldiers
1:01:10
Speaker 1: to fight in the conflict. Now, this is a response
1:01:13
Speaker 1: to a member of the public in the last few days,
1:01:16
Speaker 1: and it's clear that the MP Jack Rankin has no
1:01:20
Speaker 1: idea what the situation is in Ukraine and nor how
1:01:25
Speaker 1: British and other NATO troops are on the ground and
1:01:29
Speaker 1: have been injured. So we wait to see when the
1:01:33
Speaker 1: British Ministry at Defense will actually respond to this request,
1:01:37
Speaker 1: but at the moment it's spin and propaganda to ensure
1:01:41
Speaker 1: that despite the billions of pounds of UK money which
1:01:44
Speaker 1: is sustaining the war, helping to sustain the war, we
1:01:48
Speaker 1: are not to be told the truth about what is
1:01:51
Speaker 1: happening on the ground. And I'd just like to say
1:01:53
Speaker 1: to our audience back in twenty seventeen, we were warning
1:01:57
Speaker 1: about the Conservative government at the time refusing to talk
1:02:04
Speaker 1: accurately about British military boots on the ground in Syria.
1:02:09
Speaker 1: This is Michael Fallon talking about putting ground troops into
1:02:13
Speaker 1: iraqal Syria would help the ISL narrative and it would
1:02:18
Speaker 1: help further radicalize its potential supporters. So they prefer to
1:02:22
Speaker 1: leave it to other people to deal with it. But
1:02:25
Speaker 1: of course special forces were put in. Here's Cameron saying
1:02:29
Speaker 1: that if we're going to succeed in defeating isol either
1:02:32
Speaker 1: in Iraq or Syria. There will need to be boots
1:02:35
Speaker 1: on the ground, but they should be Iraqi boots on
1:02:39
Speaker 1: the ground. So this is the lie given to the public.
1:02:43
Speaker 1: Underneath the British troops were deployed, and here's Theresa May
1:02:48
Speaker 1: and the comment was that she declined to rule out
1:02:51
Speaker 1: ground forces being used. And lastly, I'm going to say that,
1:02:55
Speaker 1: of course we don't even know who our politicians are
1:02:59
Speaker 1: acting for, because this is back in twenty fourteen where
1:03:03
Speaker 1: Cameron was telling Netanyah who that his belief in Israel
1:03:08
Speaker 1: is unshakable. So we'll end the news there. It's clear
1:03:13
Speaker 1: that we're now in Britain twenty twenty four where we
1:03:16
Speaker 1: cannot believe the news has put out by the government
1:03:20
Speaker 1: itself or of course the BBC. So we're in the
1:03:24
Speaker 1: post truth thera. And I'm going to say to our
1:03:27
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1:03:30
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1:03:42
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1:03:46
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1:03:48
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