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How Super Sling Recovery Ropes Make Towing Safer · Towing News Now

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  SPEAKER_05: So we have a great podcast today, don't we, April?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, a friend of the podcast returning uh interviewee.
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  SPEAKER_03: And he has a very heavy southern accent.
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  SPEAKER_05: He has an accent, all right.
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  SPEAKER_05: From the south side, just the south side aware is the only question I guess.
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  SPEAKER_05: Johnny from Toe Tools returning.
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  SPEAKER_05: Johnny, go ahead and introduce yourself to the listeners.
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  SPEAKER_05: Some know you are some don't.
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  SPEAKER_04: This is Johnny.
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  SPEAKER_04: Hello, this is Johnny with Toe Tools.
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  SPEAKER_04: It is great to come on the podcast show again and meet all of you again.
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  SPEAKER_04: Toe Tools has been a manufacturer for synthetic rope and uh self-shakoe for over 12 years.
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  SPEAKER_04: Our signature product are super sling recovery rope and extreme soft shackles.
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  SPEAKER_05: Now, when you say recovery rope, other people, and I know that's what it's referred to in the industry, the lifting industry.
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  SPEAKER_05: In our industry, the filling industry, we know it is a rim sling, a wheel sling, a tire sling.
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  SPEAKER_05: You're talking about a sling with an eye on either end that's around like rope that people can grab wheels and tires with because of the protection.
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  SPEAKER_05: Is that correct?
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  SPEAKER_04: Correct.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's uh it's uh eye to eye rope, basically replaced the the chain, the steel chain to the synthetic uh material.
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  SPEAKER_04: So super sling is uh made by um Honeywell Spatial Fiber.
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  SPEAKER_04: So and we are the only one using Honeywell Spatial Fiber for the rope.
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  SPEAKER_05: And it is their number one brand of recovery sling that we use as well.
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  SPEAKER_05: One of the things about it, when you look at that sling, whether it's an eight-footer or ten-footer, um, in the middle of the sling, when I say the middle, when you use it in the basket, what the part that would be touching the load actually has a rubber hose that's inside of that black gado.
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  SPEAKER_05: In my opinion, that black gado is just for abrasion.
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  SPEAKER_05: It really doesn't have good protection from sharp edges.
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  SPEAKER_04: It is uh a spatial braiding over uh a coat of the material.
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  SPEAKER_04: So there's a braiding over then the coating.
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  SPEAKER_04: Not just the rubber.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: So there's a a couple layers of protection right there in the center, that's what you're saying?
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  SPEAKER_05: Correct.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay, there you go, learn something new every day.
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  SPEAKER_05: And that Honeywell fiber, which was the as I understand it from studying into stuff in the 90s, was the second high performance fiber.
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  SPEAKER_05: The first high performance fiber was Kevlar, which I used for bullet food gas and me help helmets and all that stuff.
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  SPEAKER_05: This is a form of that, but one of the things that the honeywell product is that the Kevlar didn't is the Kevlar product would fail due to heat and friction when used as a sling, and the Honeywell product doesn't have that issue.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's one of the reasons that uh y'all chose the Honeywell product.
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  SPEAKER_04: Correct.
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  SPEAKER_04: And also it's uh American material.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's why we picked that to use on all our rope, because we know how critical and uh the safe the safety of the the the user or whoever using the you know the safety is the most important thing to us.
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  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, the super slings sometimes they also refer to as higher slings and wheel slings, correct?
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  SPEAKER_04: Correct.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um we have two different sizes, four feet, six feet for the three A and the half inch.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, three quarter and seven A, we have uh eight foot and uh ten foot.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I like the uh I like all of them, but the ones that I use with the most are for heavy duty, I like the three quarter by ten foot.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: I also like to have a pair of the six foot a half inch for the front axle or with a little box truck or something.
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  SPEAKER_05: And then for the containers, I like that seven eighths well.
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  SPEAKER_06: That gets the containers and other odd jobs.
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  SPEAKER_03: So and Johnny, what is an ideal length for a container for the container sling to seven eighths?
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  SPEAKER_03: Is six foot or eight?
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  SPEAKER_03: Is there is there a perfect one or a better one?
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, we think the the perfect one for the container is a six foot.
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  SPEAKER_04: So the seven eight, six foot, that's our container sling.
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  SPEAKER_04: And uh because you know, you can adjust your winch line or whichever you're gonna hook on it.
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  SPEAKER_04: So six foot coming out the I mean going through the container, pocket, the pocket of the container, um, six foot is the best one.
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  SPEAKER_04: A lot of people say they want to be longer, which we don't think that's necessary, because going through the pocket hole really there is only you only need about four foot.
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  SPEAKER_04: But so six foot is actually a perfect length for the container sling.
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  SPEAKER_05: So and then what about for the the three-quarter?
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh seven eight, not three-quarter.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, but the length of the negative seven-eighth length?
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's a seven eight, six foot.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: So let's talk about the three-quarter and the length.
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  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: What do you I like 10 foot myself.
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  SPEAKER_05: What do you what do you think is the most popular?
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, um eight-foot and ten foot are both very popular.
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean, we almost, you know, each time we're gonna make over three thousand piece, and that we always run out within two to three months.
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  SPEAKER_04: So um, but mostly what we sew is uh eight-footer.
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  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, and then the eight-footer you can do a lot of jobs with.
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  SPEAKER_05: I just like the 10.
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  SPEAKER_05: If you're gonna pick up a trailer vertically, use four of those, one on each corner, and that ten foot clears that top rail of that trailer pretty well.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes, I mean uh it all depends on where you go.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean the three-quarter and uh seven a ten footer um for heavy duty recovery, it it is a gray, gray, gray tool for.
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean the extra, you know, two foot, it it is helping people getting away from the heavy object too.
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  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, that's one of the things I like about the product is they have the operators handling with less weight on a daily basis, and the less weight they handle the battery.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I I always want people to understand that you want to get away more from the option.
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  SPEAKER_04: Of course, um people will say, hey, the condition and uh the location may not be allowed, but uh the two C that we are talking about between A-footer and uh ten footer, I mean when you fold it, okay?
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  SPEAKER_04: When you fold it, that's basically you are looking at uh four foot and uh uh five foot.
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  SPEAKER_04: So you are really not not losing much of space or the the the footage.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, people people pe people have uh you know preference for it.
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  SPEAKER_05: So Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: And you know, nobody's wrong.
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  SPEAKER_05: I just like talking about what I like and what's popular out there.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_05: Speaking about what's popular, we need to take a second and do what's not popular is what's not commercial.
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  SPEAKER_05: Hey Johnny, will you hang around until after the break?
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  unknown: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: And uh Johnny's a little understated and a little quiet and reserved.
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  SPEAKER_06: Dynamic.
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  SPEAKER_03: So Johnny, I know that these are lightweight and quiet.
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  SPEAKER_03: I know that they're stronger than steel, but almost weighed nothing as far as like putting them in your tool bag.
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  SPEAKER_03: You get a lot of usage out of it.
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  SPEAKER_03: They come on, they they go on and off real easy.
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  SPEAKER_03: They float.
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  SPEAKER_03: Here's the one question that I get asked almost all the time when people call me to talk about ordering a super sling as opposed to maybe the competition.
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  SPEAKER_03: Is it rated for overhead lifting?
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  SPEAKER_04: Super sling and uh extreme self-shark home, they are both uh rated for overhead lifting.
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  SPEAKER_04: But it's also dependent on your equipment if you are able to hook it and lock it.
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  SPEAKER_04: So so the most important is how your hook uh it is.
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  SPEAKER_04: So make sure you use the hook that is a locking hook.
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  SPEAKER_04: Then yes, then we are certified for overhead lifting.
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  SPEAKER_03: So as long as you use a locking hook when either the super the super sling, the the super sling or the soft shackle, then you are rated for overhead lifting.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes, because you have to make sure the the rope or the shackle doesn't slip off.
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  SPEAKER_04: So definitely you need a lock-in type of the hood.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that's where you have to apply a little common sense whenever you're you're using the correct product.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I'm starting to add uh it's it's amazing to me the we'll and we'll talk about this in another podcast in the future, but uh the sh uh I've already lost the word for it.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's amazing to me that you can make a snatchwalk out of this, and we're gonna get into that in another podcast, but that's what I'm adding now to our website.
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  SPEAKER_03: By the way, um tonyprometre.com, that's where you can find any of this stuff.
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  SPEAKER_04: But uh we're we're also also our useful con LED lie and uh aerial eagle um safety uh LED.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um we have all these safety equipment that add on because of the industry knee, triple A.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, so we're definitely gonna talk about this later on and uh to add on your website.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, also you have the synthetic winter lines now as well.
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  SPEAKER_05: So we'll talk to you about that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we we have the wrench line for for years too.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I like the cones with the the light-up arrows on it too.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's that's gotta be that that that has to be the difference, especially at this time with the that's uh aero ego.
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  SPEAKER_06: We call that aero ego.
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  SPEAKER_06: There we go.
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  SPEAKER_06: So tell us about the synthetic shackles, Johnny.
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  SPEAKER_06: All right.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um synthetic shuttle basically we have let me see how many.
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  SPEAKER_04: We have a one, two, three, four, five.
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  SPEAKER_04: We have five different size.
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  SPEAKER_04: We have a 3A, 716, half inch, 5A, and 1 inch.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um they are all made with the Honeywell spectral fiber again.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um we use the best material to make our soft shackles.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um shackles, you can use them basically anyway, you use the regular shackle and use them in a couple places you can.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: And we also make our soft shackles longer than anyone else.
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean, when we design the shackles, um we know that at the real situation, you will always need a little bit more.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, people want to use a show one, but you know what?
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  SPEAKER_04: When you don't have enough links as the situation you are in, you will say, Hey, I I I need a bigger charcoal, or I need to be closer.
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  SPEAKER_04: So all our soft shackles are bigger and longer than you know everyone else on the market.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um that's our formula too.
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  SPEAKER_05: So let's talk about that for a second.
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  SPEAKER_05: You gave us five different diameter sizes.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, what was the first diameter size, the smallest one?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes, the smallest one is a three A.
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  SPEAKER_05: How long is that?
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh 3A is uh 10 inch.
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  SPEAKER_05: Then the next size is what, 716?
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  SPEAKER_06: 716, yes.
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  SPEAKER_05: How long?
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  SPEAKER_04: 716 we actually have a two size.
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  SPEAKER_04: One is a 10 inch, one is uh 20 inch.
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  SPEAKER_05: All right, what's your next size?
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  SPEAKER_05: Half inch?
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  SPEAKER_04: Uh the next size of is a half inch.
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  unknown: How long?
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  SPEAKER_04: And the half inch, we are at uh 20 inch.
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  SPEAKER_05: Only 20 inch when you get to the half inch.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, only one, uh only one size and uh two more sizes after that.
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  unknown: What were they?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we have a 5A.
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  SPEAKER_04: Uh 5A, we are currently at uh 25 inch.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh, and uh, we have a special one on the 5A.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, a customer over in Virginia Beach actually came to us and asking for a 60-inch long.
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  SPEAKER_04: So uh we do have a 5A 60 inch um that's for him to special wrap on something.
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  SPEAKER_04: We don't know how he's using that, but he wants a 60 inches and we can do it.
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  SPEAKER_04: And the next size up, it will be three-quarter, and that's 25 inch, and uh for the one inch uh soft shackle that is 20 inch.
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  SPEAKER_05: And the soft shackle uses a special what a choke in a ball situation.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know what to call that.
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  SPEAKER_05: Can you describe how it locks together?
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  SPEAKER_05: with the big ball in the noose and you pull it and they get tighter?
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh, the the diamond knock, yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: So basically when you use a soft shackle, how you open up, you don't need to use a tool, you get in loose, open up, and uh just have a little loop step over the diamond knock, and uh then just uh smoothly tie in, then that is secure.
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  SPEAKER_04: Once you start to pull, um the the knob will get tighter and tighter, and the charcoal actually locked in tighter and tighter too.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, when you first look at it, it kind of gives you a question, but when you see it work and actually see it load up, it does work very well.
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  SPEAKER_05: Locks right in there.
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  SPEAKER_06: Alright.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_04: Soft chacal actually is not a new idea.
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  SPEAKER_04: Soft chacal is over 60 years old.
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  SPEAKER_04: And um, you know, just over the years, from how you know the camping use, then industrial, then got into this heavy duty, then this new material bring this ability really go up.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, thanks to Honeywell's Sketchwell Fiber.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well that's interesting that you say that because I uh I thought with new technology.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean I know Honeywell's been around since the middle of the nineties when they were making it to Virginia in the middle of the nineties.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_05: That was also when we were messing with the Taylor round planes at the beginning of round planes and five years reloaded.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't realize the round slings or excuse me, soft shackles themselves have been around sixty years, huh?
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, soft shackle has been invented way, way longer ago.
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean, probably from the Boy Scouts.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um that's how how the the Soft Shackle came out.
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  SPEAKER_04: Then I mean not the Boy Scout, but you know, before that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, but I know a lot of Boy Scouts use that, then you know, then the material change from the from the nylon into this uh Honeywell Spectrum for industrial use.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_05: Well, it's funny you mentioned the Boy Scouts.
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  SPEAKER_05: I I remember reading somewhere, I think it's a fire.
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  SPEAKER_00: fire service information about rescue and talking about rope rescue in particular that the boys account when they started I guess in the nineteen thirties and nineteen forties were in a uh I don't I don't know how to say this exactly but were credited with creating a catalog of um correct and incorrect information on that and whatnot the fire departments and whatnot learned on the whole back of the boys out they started to develop the REs and residue on the battery clip or something like that that you know basically fire departments need to deal with a recipe situation so shows that one you know one group needs another fire department more advanced in many ways you can learn from a a less advanced group that is you know focused in on the subject anyway I I digress and I guess because I've digressed as I'll have here
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  SPEAKER_05: years down a rabbit hole, as a friend of mine would say.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our representatives are knowledgeable in the towing industry, so for the best towing equipment and supplies, count on the team at Towing equipment direct cost toin equipment direct cost at 9107479000 9107479000 we look forward to serving you welcome back listeners of course you know this is the number one podcast heard in the towing and recovery industry this has been a great one a great guest superstings man that Johnny himself and he's a wonderful human being but I want to thank all of you I I on behalf of Wes, April myself the tow doctor I want to thank all of you for helping us build this audience that we have we have over 2500 tuned in listeners and we can't thank you enough for being there and telling your friends about us remember to like and review and share with everyone and that's how this thing has built up if you want somebody as friendly and as nice and as professional and knowledgeable as Johnny by all means dial 9107479000 and let us know who you'd like to see.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: And if your association is doing something that we need to get on the air by all means let West and April know and we will do our best to get you in front of the right people.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: And without further ado let me pass you back on over because this has been a good one and I'm and and April I'm gonna tell you the time that I've met Johnny and of course now every time we see each other we hug each other we take pictures of each other and of course I'm much older than he is but he's better looking than I am so uh no no no no no you are better looking than we are but he's a good man April he's a good man and I'm I'm very proud that you uh you know you have him on the podcast because that's how we grow our audience we grow our audience by bringing the best of the best and on here and SuperSling is is the best of the best so just the right group to have on here.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_06: So I'll pass it back on over to you guys.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_04: Well we definitely think SuperSling is a great product that's why we represent it and sell it and um we have a whole section on our websiteequipment.com dedicated to their products and whatnot the uh super sling all the stuff in here we have on there what else can you tell us about the product on can you repeat that what else can you tell us about the product you offer um tools right now we have of course the rigging and the safety product um right now we concentrate on how how to help the worker on the on the highway and the the situation um we want to make sure the the product that they have uh no matter if the super sling recovery rope self shackle um led flare or the flashlight we are trying to make sure that people get the best quality of the product from toe tools um of course the super sling recovery rope they are our legendary product and um when we are just selling a lot of a lot of that so but um definitely we are every year we are looking into expanding the product online and the option for the people to to look at and to use them uh yeah you guys have done a great job of growing that product line no doubt about thank you I mean it's a material it's all about the material if you use the right material then the the rest it is the formula synthetic winch line that you're doing you what sizes do you offer that then the biggest one um well synthetic winch line um basically we go by what the dealer asking us to carry on so right now we have a 3A um 3A we have pretty much all size uh three a we have a 3A 50 foot 75 100 foot 125 and 150 then the next one will be 716 we got 75 foot or 100 foot 125 and 150 and uh half inch we got half inch we got 170 and 200 foot 916 I just have somebody else uh asking me about it um we we we have the core dung we have the spec dung that's 916 150 foot then the next one is a phi a 200 foot uh 250 foot then the next one is a big one it's uh three quarter we got uh 200 foot and 250 foot of course we also have the winch rope extension uh winch rope extension we only have 716 uh and uh three quarter and what is this oh extension winch line extension yeah winch line extension that's for people need uh extra links when they they are um current winch cable or the winch line not long enough they need just that a little bit more so we have a 50 foot and a hundred foot gotcha yeah all right well that's something that's gonna become in my opinion more and more popular I'm recommending people to use it I do recommend people that when they're gonna try it out they ought to really try it on a brand new truck that never had a steel cable on the wind um of course you can't always do that but I just seem like anybody thinking about anything out always seems to miss one little burn and then ends up starting to fail your cable broken um also on those things you don't use uh fluor hooks right just a straight hook is that correct the hook okay yeah all our uh winch cable and uh and I mean winch line and uh winch line uh extension they all come with a hook it's just because you know um we want to make sure that people have the the new hook to to to use with our product you don't use the old hook with the brand new synthetic rope right okay can it be a swivel hook or is it always a straight hook?
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_06: It's uh a locking hook self-locking hook.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah straight oh is a straight is a straight swivel hook or anything at all the the swift one you really need it is for the heavy one uh so we do have that option for the three quarter but for the three a seven sixteen five a half inch um we all have a straight hook okay any other thoughts about anything you want to share about any of your products I think we've done a pretty good job about Gary I think I think we got we got the super sling soft shackle and the wind rope uh all covered and um of course the next time we're gonna talk about uh LED light and uh the flare but I think we pretty much got everything covered okay great well we definitely appreciate you taking the time to come and talk to Select Product One today.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_04: We want to talk about Baltimore oh yeah that's right all right if you guys are coming to Baltimore Toe Show this year be sure you stop by Total Booth to check out our latest synthetic product and meet our team.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_04: During Baltimore Toe Show we will be also hosting a Kali Tri Cuba cigar smoke event on November 20th.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: It is Friday night starting at 9 p.m to 11 o'clock um you will have to pick out the ticket either from Totuls or American Tolman uh restriction you are all my guests so please do come to hang out and have a cigar with Total team they need to tell you they heard about it on the podcast right yes there you go hang on a second hang everybody hold on to yourself get April involved in this the um anybody that stops by the booth tells them they heard about it on the podcast or stops by the uh the thing probably come up with some kind of special gift or something can we do something April Yes if anybody else come to us and tell me that you hear about this event through DJ and uh West podcast I will give you a special gift I think I can post some postcard and I I've had a picture from the telling industry maybe we'll we'll send some of them up there we'll we'll send some kind of special something up there there'll be a competitive gift of some sort won't be anything too nice DJ just up or you make DJ dance oh yeah that's all I did the toad doctor dances at the smoke cigars yes that's that that that would be great I mean I still can cannot forget about how we met well it's over what over over ten years already over ten years ago Johnny yeah and when you came down the aisle you kept saying I want to have my picture taken with the doctor I want to have my picture taken with the doctor and then when we met it was Wes it was kind of he's going into this industry he has such a great background and it was perfect and all of a sudden his business has grown it's just like you guys have grown the podcast Johnny has grown his business the same way by referrals and other people telling him about the business so the cigar smoke would be great let him come by the booth to tell them you know they heard it on the podcast and you guys come up with something special that'd be great.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_03: DJ DJ Yeah so what are you what are you saying that Johnny's son was nothing until he met Mew and we were nothing until he met Mew No April listen Wes gets mad at me every time I tell people how proud I am to be his friend and Wes goes DJ I don't want you to say stuff like that and I and I but Wes is Wes is really a pioneer in the industry.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: So many people have known over 40 years he's been training and helping people build this industry.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: So he is an icon in the business and when Johnny and I met yeah Johnny has his team is just a good group of people so Johnny himself is a good guy of course but his team yeah but his but your team Johnny it just seems like it expands into good quality people that know the product and will keep our people safe and that's the most important part of this whole thing you make sure our people are safe and that's that's the reason why I like you and I like your product well we know the safety of the the personal and uh the equipment are very important formula to work together.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_04: All the the tour they are working at the lane um we want them to get the job done and go home fast and safe so the the the product growing in that direction.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah it's excellent the whole thing is April no no I'm proud that I know you guys I know I'm um we we are glad to know you too we're all better for no NDJ hearing things well that's all me up at the Baltimore and the hangout at uh Cigar Event come out come out to see us okay yes all right well I think this has been a very good episode I think we've gotten a lot of good information on the toll tools of which we do carry our joints with Meddirect.com and I'm gonna hand it back over to Buck to get us to uh to sign us out you got it okay thanks Johnny thanks Pikachu's participation to all our listeners keep on listening share please be safe out there thank you