Latest / Hurdle with Emily Abbate / 340. How To Fuel For Improved Performance: Chef Dan Churchill Talks Protein Needs, Perks Of A Plant-Forward Diet & Smoothie Hacks
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Look after our performance.
- 0:02Speaker 2: You have to look after your second brain, which is
- 0:04Speaker 2: the gut connected to your first brain, the brain, and
- 0:07Speaker 2: a lot of that is to do by eating enough
- 0:09Speaker 2: plants and a variety of that.
- 0:25Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Emily, a body here. You're listening to episode
- 0:28Speaker 3: three hundred and forty of Hurdle a While. This focused
- 0:31Speaker 3: podcast where we talk to inspirational people about everything from
- 0:34Speaker 3: their highest ties and toughest moments to essential tips on
- 0:38Speaker 3: how to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life. We
- 0:42Speaker 3: all go through our fair share of hurdles. My goal
- 0:45Speaker 3: through these discussions is to empower you to better navigate
- 0:48Speaker 3: yours and move with intention so that you can stride
- 0:51Speaker 3: towards your own big potential and of course have some
- 0:55Speaker 3: fun along the way. Super excited to bring some life
- 1:00Speaker 3: to this special episode I recorded at the top of
- 1:04Speaker 3: twenty twenty four with my dear friend Dan Churchill.
- 1:08Speaker 4: He's a performance based chef.
- 1:09Speaker 3: He's also got his master's and exercise science and I
- 1:12Speaker 3: find it really important at the top of this episode
- 1:16Speaker 3: to make sure that I laid down Dan's qualifications. Dan
- 1:20Speaker 3: has been cooking gosh for over a decade now and
- 1:24Speaker 3: fun fact, he was one of my first ever guests
- 1:28Speaker 3: on Hurdle back in twenty eighteen. Now, the reason that
- 1:32Speaker 3: I am giving this episode a replay spot in the feed,
- 1:36Speaker 3: something I do quite rarely, is because so many of
- 1:39Speaker 3: you are reaching out looking for nutrition advice, looking for
- 1:43Speaker 3: insight onto how you can fuel your body better, and that.
- 1:47Speaker 4: Is exactly what this one covers.
- 1:50Speaker 3: We're talking about it all from Dan's journey to food
- 1:53Speaker 3: and performance nutrition education and how his cookbook Eat Like
- 1:56Speaker 3: a Legend came to be the top three things to
- 1:59Speaker 3: focus on when you're looking to optimize performance. Tactical steps
- 2:03Speaker 3: on cutting out refined sugars, too, what it really means
- 2:06Speaker 3: to have diversity of plants within your diet.
- 2:10Speaker 4: Also, we touch on electrolytes.
- 2:12Speaker 3: Something that I am all in on considering that I
- 2:15Speaker 3: am a massive fan of elements.
- 2:17Speaker 4: More on them in just a bit, and.
- 2:20Speaker 5: We also give some thoughts, suggestions, tools on how to
- 2:24Speaker 5: navigate the biggest challenges that go hand in hand with
- 2:27Speaker 5: cooking on your own at home, and why practice is key.
- 2:32Speaker 3: Again, I really love this combo. It was a no
- 2:35Speaker 3: brainer to reinvigorate it here and I recommend you have
- 2:39Speaker 3: your notes app at the ready because there are a
- 2:41Speaker 3: lot of tips in here you are.
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- 3:10Speaker 3: With that, let's get to it. Let's get to hurdling.
- 3:19Speaker 4: Today.
- 3:19Speaker 3: I'm welcoming my dear friend Dan Churchill back into the studio.
- 3:24Speaker 4: He's got a new book coming out.
- 3:25Speaker 3: It's called Eat Like a Legend, Delicious, super easy recipes
- 3:29Speaker 3: to perform at your peak.
- 3:32Speaker 4: Welcome Dan, how are.
- 3:33Speaker 1: We doing ooday mate? Thanks t having me back.
- 3:35Speaker 4: Good day mate.
- 3:36Speaker 1: You even said the legend as ozzy as you possibly could.
- 3:39Speaker 4: It's you know what I go for.
- 3:41Speaker 3: You know you're no stranger to the show here, Dan,
- 3:44Speaker 3: although there are people that are going to be new
- 3:46Speaker 3: to you that are listening, So why don't we give
- 3:50Speaker 3: them a little bit of a rundown of how you
- 3:52Speaker 3: got really interested in food. How you began cooking before?
- 3:56Speaker 3: We talked today about how to eat like a legend,
- 3:59Speaker 3: how to all for your best performance, and of course
- 4:02Speaker 3: also better mental side of things.
- 4:04Speaker 1: There you got it well.
- 4:04Speaker 2: First, shout out to all the hurdle listens, because AM's
- 4:07Speaker 2: a legend like she defines legend. So for those who've
- 4:12Speaker 2: never heard my journey before, I'm a chef formerly a
- 4:16Speaker 2: strength and conditioning coach. So in Australia, I was a
- 4:18Speaker 2: strength and conditioning coach I did in my master's degree,
- 4:21Speaker 2: and then working with those talented athletes on a team level,
- 4:26Speaker 2: I found out that they weren't understanding of what the
- 4:29Speaker 2: nutritionist was saying out a practical sense for their cooking.
- 4:32Speaker 1: And I was cooking at home since the age of eleven.
- 4:34Speaker 2: So I just essentially put them two together and allowed
- 4:37Speaker 2: the athletes to understand how to actually cook the meals
- 4:40Speaker 2: that the nutritionists wanted them to actually have. So over
- 4:43Speaker 2: time and then jump back into kitchens did it more
- 4:46Speaker 2: of an actual profession, if you will, started releasing some
- 4:49Speaker 2: cookbooks and that led me to being able to move
- 4:52Speaker 2: to America and work with some of the best athletes
- 4:54Speaker 2: in the world. So my skill set is the ability
- 4:57Speaker 2: to take a complex topic of nutrition, particularly in the
- 5:01Speaker 2: performance world, and put it into an easy to understand
- 5:05Speaker 2: and practical setting or the applied nutrition space in the
- 5:08Speaker 2: actual cooking.
- 5:08Speaker 1: So that's what I do.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Someone here is I moved to the United States and
- 5:13Speaker 3: then I started working with all these dope humans and
- 5:15Speaker 3: they're like cool, but how so what's the how how
- 5:19Speaker 3: did that happen for you?
- 5:19Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I'm reading your topic Habits like
- 5:22Speaker 2: the fourth time.
- 5:23Speaker 4: Right on my desk, read here.
- 5:24Speaker 2: I know I noticed it, Mate, Like, I can't be
- 5:27Speaker 2: more it can't be more apparent. The word obviously grit,
- 5:31Speaker 2: but also how to play the long game is in anything.
- 5:33Speaker 2: So you know you've been doing this podcast for many years, right,
- 5:36Speaker 2: and so like you're constantly getting the reps in, and
- 5:39Speaker 2: I talk about this a lot, so get the reps in.
- 5:41Speaker 1: So what I did was I found.
- 5:44Speaker 2: A way to be consistent on something I'm passionate about,
- 5:48Speaker 2: and that was through content. I was able to share
- 5:51Speaker 2: my message and break through the mold of how people
- 5:54Speaker 2: should be looking at themselves through performance and using food
- 5:57Speaker 2: to do so. So, you know, it could be simply
- 5:59Speaker 2: just through Instagram, It could be blogs, it could be
- 6:01Speaker 2: speaking to people at dinners that I was then cooking at,
- 6:04Speaker 2: and that evolved into eventually people had heard of what
- 6:07Speaker 2: I was doing to then you know, my number one
- 6:11Speaker 2: seoed topic was the healthy Chef on Google, and so
- 6:15Speaker 2: that led to articles that I've been creating, and so
- 6:17Speaker 2: under Ama reached out to me, and that was the
- 6:19Speaker 2: very first like moment for me to reconcile that the
- 6:23Speaker 2: work that I've been doing for years of creating content,
- 6:25Speaker 2: creating articles, putting out my philosophies around performance based food
- 6:30Speaker 2: had actually worked. And you know, we talk about just
- 6:33Speaker 2: being consistent and eventually it pays off.
- 6:36Speaker 1: It does.
- 6:37Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I agree, and I love that idea of
- 6:40Speaker 3: the raps, I mean, completely unrelated to cooking. I was
- 6:43Speaker 3: saying to someone yesterday that I've been out of the
- 6:45Speaker 3: dating game forever and at this point, I feel like
- 6:48Speaker 3: I just need some reps, Like I'm not the kind
- 6:50Speaker 3: of person that likes to just go on a DAT
- 6:52Speaker 3: for a free dinner. Unlike friends of mine when we
- 6:56Speaker 3: were in our early twenties, that was ever me.
- 7:00Speaker 4: It was never me. It was never me.
- 7:02Speaker 3: But I feel as though now I need to get
- 7:05Speaker 3: back into dating in a way that I'm just putting
- 7:08Speaker 3: in the reps.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out of practice. Yeah, well, we've talked about this.
- 7:13Speaker 2: There's a guy, there's so many guys out there that'll
- 7:16Speaker 2: be lucky to have you.
- 7:16Speaker 4: We've said this, you're very sweet, Dan, but we'll.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Make it happen.
- 7:19Speaker 2: But one hund percent and applies to everything, whether it
- 7:21Speaker 2: be dating, cooking, or you know this simple one like
- 7:24Speaker 2: you hear reps. You think getting stronger in the gym,
- 7:26Speaker 2: but think about learning language, doing better at wordle in
- 7:30Speaker 2: the morning, reading, or even just you know, making sure
- 7:33Speaker 2: you've been consistent about spending time with someone you know.
- 7:36Speaker 2: I always talk about looking after you first, and I
- 7:39Speaker 2: think one of the biggest things that I talk about
- 7:41Speaker 2: getting the reps in is when was the last time
- 7:42Speaker 2: you'll consistently get the.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Reps in to look after you first?
- 7:45Speaker 4: Totally?
- 7:46Speaker 3: I totally agree, and even I mean I can apply
- 7:49Speaker 3: this to the physical therapy exercises I'm doing right now.
- 7:52Speaker 4: My hip is feeling a little wonky.
- 7:53Speaker 3: Of course, why would I ever be able to be
- 7:55Speaker 3: completely injury free? And I know that every day if
- 7:58Speaker 3: I put in the reps, it's going to pay off.
- 8:01Speaker 3: It might not happen as fast as I want it to,
- 8:04Speaker 3: but that's where patients comes in, and that's where you
- 8:06Speaker 3: learn the lessons, right, Like, it's nice when things go
- 8:08Speaker 3: your way and everything feels easy, but it is those
- 8:11Speaker 3: moments of adversity, the difficult moments, the excessive amount of
- 8:15Speaker 3: reps that we put in that really teach us how
- 8:17Speaker 3: to be better and help pay off.
- 8:18Speaker 4: In the long haul.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:19Speaker 2: The best example I've got that I don't know if
- 8:22Speaker 2: it's relevant to everybody here, but a guy called mister
- 8:24Speaker 2: Beast on YouTube. He says, you know, the first two
- 8:27Speaker 2: years of doing YouTube, you make a lot of mistakes
- 8:29Speaker 2: and no one knows you. For the next two years,
- 8:31Speaker 2: no one knows you, but you start to make what headwind.
- 8:33Speaker 2: The fifty is when you start to actually make some
- 8:37Speaker 2: I guess momentum. But if you think about that five years,
- 8:39Speaker 2: who's willing to be in wilderness for two and a
- 8:42Speaker 2: half three years before anything happens.
- 8:44Speaker 1: And that's the same with anything that.
- 8:46Speaker 4: We do, totally.
- 8:47Speaker 3: So I'm staring at this book here eat like a legend,
- 8:50Speaker 3: great photo either way, I appreciate it. Tell me how
- 8:53Speaker 3: this came to be? This is a really beautiful looking cookwork.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Thanks mate.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've been out of the cookbook game for
- 8:59Speaker 2: about sixty years, you know.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Transparently.
- 9:01Speaker 2: My last book didn't do well in the States, but
- 9:03Speaker 2: that was before I actually hadn't even moved here. So
- 9:06Speaker 2: what happened was I launched a book from Australia here
- 9:08Speaker 2: and it was kind of like the early stage of
- 9:11Speaker 2: social media where people weren't looking at the followings as
- 9:16Speaker 2: where they're from or demographics, and they're just looking at
- 9:18Speaker 2: as numbers.
- 9:19Speaker 1: So I had a bit of a following back then.
- 9:20Speaker 2: It was like, you know, the equivalent to whatever it
- 9:23Speaker 2: is now that's like big, but it was small compared
- 9:25Speaker 2: to what we have now. And so they thought like, oh,
- 9:28Speaker 2: this guy's got so many followers, is going to do
- 9:30Speaker 2: well over the seas. So they signed into a book
- 9:32Speaker 2: deal and it didn't do well. And so for me,
- 9:34Speaker 2: the adversity in the hurdle and that was like it
- 9:36Speaker 2: kind of put me on the back foot and lack
- 9:38Speaker 2: of confidence, for example, and so six years of me
- 9:43Speaker 2: knowing I wanted to do another book was constantly in
- 9:46Speaker 2: my head by it's like when's the right time. And
- 9:49Speaker 2: it took me to like understand how honestly, everything from
- 9:52Speaker 2: branding to messaging to building relationships that could help me.
- 9:57Speaker 2: That really helped me kind of firstly get over that
- 10:00Speaker 2: confidence barrier, but then meet the right people that eventually
- 10:06Speaker 2: after get the reps in put me in the right direction.
- 10:08Speaker 2: So what happened was a guy called doctor b doctor
- 10:11Speaker 2: Will Bulsowitz, who's the.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Gut Health MD.
- 10:13Speaker 2: He lost a book called Fiberfield and I was talking
- 10:16Speaker 2: to him and he said, dude, when are you doing
- 10:19Speaker 2: your book? You've been talking about all these philosophies for
- 10:21Speaker 2: a long time now on your podcast everything you talk
- 10:23Speaker 2: to people about. When are you doing your book? And
- 10:26Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, man, You're right, it's time.
- 10:29Speaker 2: And I knew, I knew within me that it was like, Okay,
- 10:32Speaker 2: I wanted to put a book together that was going
- 10:35Speaker 2: to help people get the reps in, put themselves first
- 10:39Speaker 2: by reading something they could sink their teeth into learn
- 10:43Speaker 2: fundamental recipes, have tips along the way, but also have
- 10:46Speaker 2: a really big point of difference in the performance aspect,
- 10:48Speaker 2: which is what I do. And I didn't want to
- 10:51Speaker 2: be where it's like you have to be an athlete,
- 10:52Speaker 2: you know. I call everyday legends inside this book for anybody,
- 10:56Speaker 2: because everybody needs to perform every day, whether it be
- 10:58Speaker 2: you know, a mother looking after the kids, or someone
- 11:00Speaker 2: trying to get a promotion or whatever it is in
- 11:02Speaker 2: their own daily life. So I really like spoke to
- 11:06Speaker 2: him about this is like, dude, let me introduce my
- 11:07Speaker 2: LID agent.
- 11:08Speaker 1: He introduced me to his LID agent.
- 11:10Speaker 2: And Steph's amazing, and then she just just like wrote
- 11:13Speaker 2: me proposal because I loved it this book, and I
- 11:16Speaker 2: put the proposer together with the writer and she went
- 11:19Speaker 2: straight to a publisher, Harper, and they were like, we
- 11:21Speaker 2: want this right now. So it was it was it
- 11:25Speaker 2: was a really I think the biggest thing for me
- 11:27Speaker 2: to explain is I had to get over this concept
- 11:31Speaker 2: of failure that I had done and the learnings I
- 11:34Speaker 2: had from that very first book in the States that
- 11:36Speaker 2: I had done, to then realize I've learnt so much
- 11:40Speaker 2: for me to then grow and now apply to this
- 11:44Speaker 2: new book, this new project.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Have you written a book before?
- 11:47Speaker 3: Now you know all the writing, right, So.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Like writing a books a project. But it's also like.
- 11:55Speaker 2: When you fail at something you do, you do and
- 11:58Speaker 2: once they fail, it's like I think you set God
- 12:00Speaker 2: and when I'm so glory. We are so gal orientated,
- 12:03Speaker 2: particularly these day and age. It's like, if I'm going
- 12:06Speaker 2: to a book, I'm going to do it so well
- 12:08Speaker 2: and be all in on it. And that's when you know,
- 12:11Speaker 2: you just.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, when you know you now well, I mean,
- 12:14Speaker 3: this book is entirely different than your last book called
- 12:19Speaker 3: Dude Food.
- 12:21Speaker 4: And I say that not.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Just for a quick laugh, but also because this book
- 12:28Speaker 3: embodies who it is that you are. And I think
- 12:31Speaker 3: that life happens in that way, and projects show up
- 12:35Speaker 3: for us when it feels right with us. And you've
- 12:38Speaker 3: done so much work, not only professionally, but on yourself
- 12:43Speaker 3: and getting to know who it is that you are
- 12:45Speaker 3: and what it is that you're after, and what's your
- 12:48Speaker 3: values and what's important to you. And so by putting
- 12:51Speaker 3: in that work and putting in those reps on yourself,
- 12:54Speaker 3: you got yourself to a place where you were prepared
- 12:56Speaker 3: to create the book that.
- 12:58Speaker 4: Was meant for you.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Man, That's exactly it. Yeah, Like this is the book.
- 13:03Speaker 2: This book embodies me now and it's who I am.
- 13:08Speaker 2: It's also what I'm passionate about and what I want
- 13:11Speaker 2: to have an impact on. But it took me personal
- 13:14Speaker 2: development to get there. You know, like, over the years
- 13:17Speaker 2: of living in New York City, we've grown, you learned
- 13:21Speaker 2: so much about yourself and you learn about what it
- 13:23Speaker 2: is you want to share, and people like, what's your goal,
- 13:25Speaker 2: I'm like, well, my goal is not to make like
- 13:29Speaker 2: straight up, it's like, I know, this book's going to
- 13:31Speaker 2: change people's lives, right, So become a New York Times
- 13:34Speaker 2: bestseller is a personal goal. But getting on a list
- 13:38Speaker 2: is something that helps you expand the horizons of people's
- 13:41Speaker 2: understanding of how they look after themselves. So the point
- 13:44Speaker 2: run the journey that what you're talking about was I
- 13:46Speaker 2: learned to put myself first, and I don't think this
- 13:49Speaker 2: day and age people are doing that, which means they
- 13:52Speaker 2: can't put anyone else around them. In the same breath
- 13:54Speaker 2: of Fashia, you.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Know what doesn't mean to you when you say perform
- 13:59Speaker 3: at your peace?
- 14:01Speaker 2: So I feel there's a couple of things to kind
- 14:04Speaker 2: of touch on there with respect to like potential, you know,
- 14:08Speaker 2: and all these things that we hear are the buzzwords
- 14:11Speaker 2: or not for me. To perform at your peak is
- 14:15Speaker 2: someone who's living up to the expectation within themselves of
- 14:18Speaker 2: what they can actually achieve and I you know, it's
- 14:22Speaker 2: like getting the reps in again. Applies to this in
- 14:24Speaker 2: the sense that as you do the practice, do more
- 14:28Speaker 2: of the work, you achieve something that you are setting
- 14:31Speaker 2: out to do goals. But at the same time, when
- 14:35Speaker 2: it comes to performance at your peak, you are doing
- 14:37Speaker 2: the best you can do at a given skill action
- 14:41Speaker 2: or step, so cooking, walking with your friends, giving them
- 14:46Speaker 2: uttermost attention, thinking about a problem, thinking about a project
- 14:49Speaker 2: you're performing, and so to be able to do that
- 14:52Speaker 2: is performing at your peak. To get there, you need
- 14:56Speaker 2: to be pretty much like one hundred percent all in
- 14:58Speaker 2: in that time. But also there's things around cognitive health
- 15:02Speaker 2: and physical health, emotional, spiritual health. We can even go
- 15:06Speaker 2: there that really helped you optimize your overall performance. So today,
- 15:12Speaker 2: where we've got so many distractions and things going on
- 15:14Speaker 2: outside the world that we often get stimulated by and
- 15:17Speaker 2: carry on our way, the idea is to bring it
- 15:21Speaker 2: back to you and provide opportunities for you to grow
- 15:24Speaker 2: within yourself to then eventually perform at your peak based
- 15:28Speaker 2: on applying basic fundamental skills.
- 15:30Speaker 3: And what I'm also understanding here is that your peak
- 15:33Speaker 3: can ebb and flow depending on the day. I think
- 15:36Speaker 3: that there's so much value in this concept of all
- 15:38Speaker 3: it takes is all you've got in some days what
- 15:40Speaker 3: you have.
- 15:41Speaker 4: What you've got is different than another.
- 15:45Speaker 3: Some days you show up and you're like, all I
- 15:47Speaker 3: have to offer today is this, and that's great. And
- 15:50Speaker 3: so it's meeting yourself with where you're at and understanding
- 15:52Speaker 3: that you can garner all the tools and have them
- 15:56Speaker 3: within your power to use at any given moment, Understanding
- 16:00Speaker 3: that the execution and how you use them may have
- 16:03Speaker 3: been flow and that's okay.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Yeah, Dent.
- 16:05Speaker 2: And like you think about the most common thing again
- 16:08Speaker 2: physical activity. We leading up to a boss and math
- 16:11Speaker 2: on or a mathon in general, you're probably dialing yourself
- 16:14Speaker 2: in for electrolytes and all the foods that can help
- 16:16Speaker 2: you get you across that line efficiently. But I would
- 16:19Speaker 2: dare say it like it's a Tuesday morning or Monday
- 16:22Speaker 2: morning and you've got to deliver a presentation or you're
- 16:25Speaker 2: pitching or you want it, you've got a meeting with
- 16:27Speaker 2: someone who could give you, like how you fueling yourself
- 16:31Speaker 2: to support that step. I just don't think people looking
- 16:34Speaker 2: at that with the same frame of mind they are
- 16:36Speaker 2: with their you know, actionable steps. So back to your point,
- 16:40Speaker 2: it does EBB and flow, and there's different things where
- 16:41Speaker 2: you need to perform out your peak with different types
- 16:44Speaker 2: of actions. I just think really honing in on looking
- 16:48Speaker 2: after you, whether it be through food or actionable sleep,
- 16:51Speaker 2: and understanding all that can be absolutely beneficial more than
- 16:55Speaker 2: we think.
- 16:56Speaker 3: All Right, so where does someone begin when it comes
- 16:59Speaker 3: to fuel to perform at our peak? I feel like
- 17:01Speaker 3: we need to break this down into maybe different categories. Right,
- 17:05Speaker 3: So what's the first thing that someone should be cognizant
- 17:08Speaker 3: of when they're really trying to get their act together
- 17:10Speaker 3: for optimal performance?
- 17:12Speaker 2: The number one thing is that you treat your body
- 17:15Speaker 2: as your body. And the term bo individual is so
- 17:18Speaker 2: apparent here because you can look at identical twins who
- 17:24Speaker 2: over the course of their lifetime will look physically different
- 17:27Speaker 2: based on the choices they make in their lifestyle. Right,
- 17:30Speaker 2: So we know that we've seen that even though you
- 17:33Speaker 2: can have the same genes, you have different lifestyle choices.
- 17:37Speaker 2: The foods you eat can affect the way that you
- 17:39Speaker 2: physically your fineotype change.
- 17:41Speaker 1: So what does that mean?
- 17:42Speaker 2: Well, the way I digesting is the way you digesting
- 17:45Speaker 2: is going to be different so your enzymes are going
- 17:48Speaker 2: to work more or less efficiently based on certain foods
- 17:51Speaker 2: that I'm also having. So when people try to compare
- 17:54Speaker 2: between each other how to eat, it's never the right
- 17:57Speaker 2: way to go about it. If your girlfriend can have
- 17:59Speaker 2: the past, but you like you want to have the
- 18:01Speaker 2: pastor because you see them eating it and you think
- 18:03Speaker 2: that's the best way to go about it, you're probably
- 18:05Speaker 2: not taking into account your body. So the way we
- 18:08Speaker 2: measure this, the most easy way is how you feel,
- 18:12Speaker 2: very subjective, hard to quantify. Then you've got things like
- 18:16Speaker 2: physical things like you can actually look at your stool
- 18:18Speaker 2: and it's something called the Bristol stool chart to see
- 18:20Speaker 2: that there's a range between one and seven different shapes.
- 18:24Speaker 2: You can have the really really like wet, which is
- 18:26Speaker 2: not good. Then you have the super super hard, which
- 18:28Speaker 2: is also not good. You want something that's like in
- 18:30Speaker 2: the middle. And so also you can talk about your regularity.
- 18:34Speaker 2: And these are great ways for us to understand if
- 18:36Speaker 2: we're taking into account out by individuality.
- 18:38Speaker 1: I think I've used this before.
- 18:40Speaker 2: With you, mate, But you know, chickpeas are so often
- 18:43Speaker 2: deemed a great, you know ingredient, and they are for
- 18:47Speaker 2: the majority of time. But I'm sure there's people out
- 18:49Speaker 2: there who smash hummus because it's amazing, and they wake
- 18:53Speaker 2: up next day or they even thirty minutes after having
- 18:55Speaker 2: the hummers with bread, they just don't feel good. And
- 18:57Speaker 2: it's like, unfortunately, some people don't have of the enzymes
- 19:01Speaker 2: to break down those legg hmes. So again you've got
- 19:03Speaker 2: to take that into account. So you've got all those
- 19:06Speaker 2: subjective means you do have the objective with the viewership
- 19:09Speaker 2: of like how you stool is, then you can go
- 19:11Speaker 2: into eventually, like you know, deficiencies and understand where you're
- 19:14Speaker 2: deficient by getting tests done such as we hone and
- 19:17Speaker 2: things like that.
- 19:19Speaker 1: But that's the.
- 19:20Speaker 2: Number one thing. Number one thing, more than anything, is
- 19:22Speaker 2: to treat yourself individually. Listen to your body and don't
- 19:26Speaker 2: just do things because other people are doing that. Number
- 19:28Speaker 2: two cut out refined sugars. I know that sounds so simple.
- 19:34Speaker 3: He's looking at a can of diet coke I have
- 19:35Speaker 3: on the desk right now, but i'd diet there's no sugar.
- 19:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Look, I'm not going to go into I'm not going
- 19:44Speaker 2: to go into this. Look the number one, the number one.
- 19:49Speaker 2: This is your advice Hey, I've already been through your fridge.
- 19:52Speaker 2: I just I totally nerd it out of it.
- 19:54Speaker 4: It's true.
- 19:55Speaker 2: So number two is cutut refined sugars. But I'm telling
- 19:57Speaker 2: you right now is not something everyone's oh yeah, well,
- 19:59Speaker 2: I just it's like, oh my god, newsflash. New York
- 20:02Speaker 2: Times front page Dan Jurchill says to do no sugar,
- 20:06Speaker 2: like everyone knows that, right. But definitely I've seen how
- 20:09Speaker 2: important cutting out refined sugars is so least removers much
- 20:14Speaker 2: that you can. The third one is providing the biggest
- 20:17Speaker 2: one in my opinion. We have this argument that we
- 20:20Speaker 2: used to anyway around plant based versus meat eaters, and
- 20:24Speaker 2: it was like to and fro. You'd have like all
- 20:26Speaker 2: these heads of their respective call it arguments going back
- 20:31Speaker 2: and forth to and Chris TikTok and podcasts, etc. But
- 20:34Speaker 2: if you look at all the research in the papers,
- 20:35Speaker 2: number one actually biggest adjustment was if you are someone
- 20:41Speaker 2: whether or not you're eating meat or not eating meat,
- 20:45Speaker 2: the biggest differentiator in our health is and performance is
- 20:49Speaker 2: how much plants you are getting. So if you're a
- 20:51Speaker 2: media to having no plants, it's really bad. But if
- 20:55Speaker 2: you're a media to having plants. You know, it's especially
- 20:58Speaker 2: a diversity of plant that's got such a big impact
- 21:01Speaker 2: on your support. And the reason for this is we
- 21:04Speaker 2: look at the macronutrient profile. I'll talk about this in
- 21:06Speaker 2: the book, and I bring up this thing called the
- 21:08Speaker 2: fifth macronutrient. Do you know what the three macronutrients are?
- 21:11Speaker 1: I know that's you got it?
- 21:13Speaker 4: Craves, fat and protein.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Nice. Do you know what the fourth is? Now? Water?
- 21:17Speaker 4: Oh?
- 21:18Speaker 2: And they sometimes say alcohol too, but I've said the
- 21:21Speaker 2: fifth one is actually the cohort of the micronutrients. The
- 21:25Speaker 2: reason why I said that is because macro is sexy,
- 21:29Speaker 2: really easy to read a packet and see protein, fats
- 21:31Speaker 2: and carbs. We've got this dogmatic approach like numbers, how
- 21:34Speaker 2: many calories am I having? Am I a death deficit?
- 21:37Speaker 1: You know?
- 21:37Speaker 2: All these kind of things. Am I getting enough protein today?
- 21:39Speaker 2: And we know protein is such a more amazingly sexy topic.
- 21:42Speaker 2: How much proteins they got on a maket on that package.
- 21:45Speaker 2: But we don't talk about is like you know the
- 21:47Speaker 2: understanding of magnesium and potassium and iron like iron and
- 21:51Speaker 2: women is so a man obviously, but particularly in women
- 21:55Speaker 2: with their metro cycle, like you have to be so
- 21:58Speaker 2: swisched on of how how much iron you're having. And
- 22:01Speaker 2: it's not just the amount of iron you're having, but
- 22:03Speaker 2: how much you're absorbing. And that's where green leafy vegetables
- 22:07Speaker 2: are so important for your performance because you can take
- 22:10Speaker 2: on all the salmon you want and all the meats
- 22:12Speaker 2: and things like that that have the iron, but if
- 22:14Speaker 2: you're not having the calcium fight them and c all
- 22:17Speaker 2: those kind of things to support, you're not going to
- 22:19Speaker 2: have the ability to actually withdraw and use it. So
- 22:22Speaker 2: that's why I say, although it's good to have your proteins, fats,
- 22:25Speaker 2: and carbs, if you don't have the fifth magnutrient, which
- 22:28Speaker 2: is your veggies, you are not getting the support and
- 22:30Speaker 2: they're just kind of like, for lack of a better
- 22:32Speaker 2: way of putting this together, floating around. It's just not
- 22:34Speaker 2: being utilized. Right Three cap number one by the individuality.
- 22:39Speaker 2: Number two, cut it refined sugar. Number three, eat more plants.
- 22:42Speaker 3: Okay, pretty simple, Pretty simple. First thing to touch on.
- 22:46Speaker 3: Lots of things to double click on here. The first
- 22:48Speaker 3: thing refined sugars. For someone who struggles cutting out refined
- 22:51Speaker 3: sugars from their diet, how do you recommend that they begin.
- 22:54Speaker 3: What's a small step that they can take toward accomplishing that.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is a good point.
- 23:00Speaker 2: The first one is adjusting to like maybe more natural sugars,
- 23:03Speaker 2: so honeys and maple syrups, you know if you can.
- 23:06Speaker 1: The reason why I say this is if you look
- 23:08Speaker 1: at like if you look at our.
- 23:11Speaker 2: Intakers, Like in the American society, a lot of people
- 23:13Speaker 2: just adding sugars to their day even though it's already
- 23:16Speaker 2: sugars in the existing meals are about to have so
- 23:19Speaker 2: like you know, not a lot of people are like
- 23:20Speaker 2: me and are snobbishing about their coffee as a naussy
- 23:23Speaker 2: and can have like the understanding of why we want
- 23:26Speaker 2: black coffee, they need to have a sweetener in it,
- 23:28Speaker 2: so like go for a honey or a maple syrup,
- 23:32Speaker 2: a little dash of that instead of having you know.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Table sugar.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Right, it still has a spike, but it's still got
- 23:37Speaker 2: some trade minerals in it that can support other things,
- 23:40Speaker 2: if that makes sense.
- 23:41Speaker 1: Yeah, So number one cut that part out and adjust.
- 23:44Speaker 2: Number two is I would work on the ability to
- 23:46Speaker 2: kind of understand what your vices are, and I get
- 23:50Speaker 2: the reps in progressively work and wean your way off
- 23:54Speaker 2: to understand how much you're actually taking on the what
- 23:56Speaker 2: you actually need. If you're having cereal for breakfast or nola,
- 24:00Speaker 2: there's only that much sugar in there. Plus if you
- 24:02Speaker 2: add more sugar to your coffee and then you have
- 24:05Speaker 2: you know, say a snack barbs you got sugar, you
- 24:07Speaker 2: can start to see it's done.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Add up really simple.
- 24:10Speaker 2: So I just say, progressively, start to wean off package
- 24:13Speaker 2: foods as best possible to and enjoy plenty of fruit.
- 24:15Speaker 1: I love my berries.
- 24:17Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've been doing frozen grebes at the end
- 24:19Speaker 3: of the day because I definitely have like a dessert virce.
- 24:23Speaker 3: So I'm trying to wean off of my YAsO, Greek
- 24:27Speaker 3: yogurt bars, yeshivor of frozen grapes. These are my These
- 24:31Speaker 3: are the things I'm leaning into the diet coke, which
- 24:33Speaker 3: you don't like, and then yeah, so Greek yogurt bars.
- 24:35Speaker 1: What else do you see?
- 24:37Speaker 2: Is like even just in general, because we talk about
- 24:39Speaker 2: this and you must talk about your friends.
- 24:41Speaker 1: It's like I'm not saying don't ever. I still go
- 24:44Speaker 1: and have chocolate totally totally, but I'm not saying don't
- 24:46Speaker 1: have it.
- 24:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just being alert and understanding of like there's
- 24:50Speaker 2: there's simple tips.
- 24:51Speaker 1: Or our headspace.
- 24:53Speaker 2: It's like, well, it's all about you actually putting in
- 24:57Speaker 2: the work, which means do you care enough about yourself
- 24:59Speaker 2: to actually make the change. And that's not me saying well, dance,
- 25:02Speaker 2: give me an ultimatum. It's like no, just honest, Like
- 25:04Speaker 2: if you if you're someone who wants to cut out
- 25:07Speaker 2: refined sugar, I can tell you all the tips and
- 25:10Speaker 2: tricks here in the day. You're the one is gonna
- 25:12Speaker 2: have to do it and until it's Unfortunately, is the
- 25:16Speaker 2: thing about a gain repsin in food. It's like gain
- 25:19Speaker 2: the repsin is so apparent because you don't see it immediately.
- 25:23Speaker 2: It's something that does take you know, even years to
- 25:27Speaker 2: either come to fruition of how important cutting out something
- 25:30Speaker 2: like refined t can be. You know, can delay or
- 25:33Speaker 2: imprevent the onset of so many problematic diseases. So it's
- 25:38Speaker 2: not the unfortunate situation where you get a like or
- 25:42Speaker 2: a comment that gives you affirmation of how you're doing
- 25:44Speaker 2: straight away.
- 25:45Speaker 1: You have to be put the dedication in.
- 25:47Speaker 3: And this comes full circle with the importance of a
- 25:50Speaker 3: why right. I always say that where there's a why,
- 25:52Speaker 3: there's a way, and when you have a firm idea
- 25:55Speaker 3: of what it is that your goals are and why
- 25:57Speaker 3: it is that you want to be cognizant of what
- 25:59Speaker 3: you're putting into your body, then it'll be a little
- 26:03Speaker 3: bit easier to make these choices, albeit small, to get
- 26:07Speaker 3: you to that point. So for me, I'll give you
- 26:09Speaker 3: an example from when I was back in college. I
- 26:12Speaker 3: was on a major weight loss journey, and I had
- 26:15Speaker 3: been until I started on this journey, probably eating ice
- 26:19Speaker 3: cream at least once a day at some point in
- 26:22Speaker 3: my dining in college. And so I made the decision
- 26:25Speaker 3: that instead of eating ice cream once a day, I
- 26:29Speaker 3: when I was losing weight, was using weight Watchers, and
- 26:31Speaker 3: after I wait in at wheat Watchers every week, I
- 26:33Speaker 3: would go to the drive through get myself a black
- 26:36Speaker 3: ice coffee and a glaze stick donut. And that was
- 26:39Speaker 3: like when I had my sugar exciting moment. And that's
- 26:42Speaker 3: not to say that there wasn't sugar dispersed in other
- 26:44Speaker 3: moments throughout my week, but I just made the conscious
- 26:47Speaker 3: decision that I was not going to have ice cream
- 26:49Speaker 3: every day anymore because my goals were bigger than that.
- 26:52Speaker 1: That's it. You made a point to take care. You
- 26:55Speaker 1: put yourself first.
- 26:56Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're also realistic because you need to look
- 26:59Speaker 2: after yourself the whole. This is the rest of your life.
- 27:01Speaker 2: We're talking about your life. So you want to enjoy
- 27:04Speaker 2: things and yeah, like that's that's all we're saying. Is
- 27:08Speaker 2: like finding ways to motivate you for the longevity of
- 27:12Speaker 2: your entire life so you can perform and do the
- 27:14Speaker 2: things you want to be doing. And you know, there's
- 27:16Speaker 2: nothing worse than having no energy to look after your
- 27:19Speaker 2: kids or like not being able to you're pushing for
- 27:22Speaker 2: things at work, but you don't have the bird to
- 27:24Speaker 2: do get off the couch because you're just so tired
- 27:26Speaker 2: because you're not sleeping, you're you know, not looking after yourself.
- 27:30Speaker 2: And I'd also say it's like I think, for me,
- 27:33Speaker 2: what and this is not a guy thing, but a
- 27:36Speaker 2: lot of guys like to understand, say building lean, muscle
- 27:40Speaker 2: and get big, so they follow a numbers spectrum. And
- 27:43Speaker 2: I think numbers are really good, but they can also
- 27:45Speaker 2: be detrimental in our headspace. So you know, either be
- 27:48Speaker 2: jumping on the scale or and looking at a number
- 27:51Speaker 2: to determine how healthy we are. That's not what it
- 27:53Speaker 2: should be. It's to be like how you feel is
- 27:56Speaker 2: so much more important. I will say, I understand your
- 28:00Speaker 2: macronutrient including the fifth macronutrient profile is important. So understanding
- 28:04Speaker 2: your deficiencies is just as important to understand how you're tracking.
- 28:07Speaker 2: So you know, like I'm right now, I'm doing a
- 28:10Speaker 2: new program for high rocks, but coming from a marathon,
- 28:13Speaker 2: I need to put on muscle, so I am tracking
- 28:16Speaker 2: more recently how much I'm eating to make sure I'm
- 28:19Speaker 2: working towards my goals.
- 28:21Speaker 1: Because I you know, I.
- 28:22Speaker 2: Don't have a I didn't have a huge eating disorder,
- 28:25Speaker 2: but I had that what they do refer to as
- 28:27Speaker 2: an eating disorder when I was a young, young male,
- 28:30Speaker 2: when all I do is hit the gym, and I
- 28:31Speaker 2: was conscious of what I was eating to the point
- 28:33Speaker 2: that I didn't go out to eat at nighttime because
- 28:35Speaker 2: I was concerned about what would be putting in my body.
- 28:38Speaker 2: And I wouldn't enjoy a time with my friends because
- 28:40Speaker 2: of that. So that that is an eating disorder, and
- 28:42Speaker 2: so that's very common these days, and particularly in young men.
- 28:46Speaker 2: Like they say, women are the ones that I have
- 28:48Speaker 2: in disorders and that's probably more obvious because people are
- 28:50Speaker 2: more in tune whereas guys aren't so vocal about it.
- 28:54Speaker 2: But trying to take away that concept that numbers can
- 28:57Speaker 2: guide you, but they're not the be all.
- 28:59Speaker 4: End all, definitely.
- 29:00Speaker 3: And for those that don't know, can you just give
- 29:03Speaker 3: a quick explainer on what hierroarx is?
- 29:05Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
- 29:06Speaker 2: So high rox is a essentially a circuit style competition
- 29:11Speaker 2: where it's eight kilometers broken up into one kilometer interval
- 29:14Speaker 2: efforts followed by corresponding with eight discipline So there's eight disciplines,
- 29:19Speaker 2: eight kilometer efforts, eight one klmeter efforts. And it's really
- 29:22Speaker 2: exciting because Censor, the company I work with, we just
- 29:25Speaker 2: Chris Hamsworth Fitness company. We just became the equipment partner,
- 29:28Speaker 2: so I do a lot of work with them. But
- 29:29Speaker 2: it's a sick competition. It's like anyone can get off
- 29:32Speaker 2: the couch and do this, and you can also be.
- 29:36Speaker 1: An elite right and do it. It's really really exciting.
- 29:39Speaker 4: I like how it's broken up.
- 29:40Speaker 3: It reminds me a little bit of like old school
- 29:43Speaker 3: what I would do on like my cardiocentric CrossFit is.
- 29:47Speaker 1: That's honestly it back in the day you don't do
- 29:50Speaker 1: it anymore.
- 29:51Speaker 4: I haven't. I haven't done CrossFit and sometime.
- 29:54Speaker 3: But I am really getting back into Olympic weight lifting,
- 29:56Speaker 3: which is fun.
- 29:57Speaker 1: Let's see, what are you actually curious?
- 29:58Speaker 2: Like, after your Olympic lifting, where's your what's the first
- 30:01Speaker 2: thing you need to do afterwards?
- 30:03Speaker 1: Like? First thing you'll you'll you want to do?
- 30:05Speaker 3: The first thing I want to do? Well, the first
- 30:07Speaker 3: thing I do is when I'm done at the gym,
- 30:09Speaker 3: I run home and then I make a smoothie.
- 30:12Speaker 2: Do you want to make the smoothie or do you
- 30:13Speaker 2: think you need to make this mooviie.
- 30:15Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of both.
- 30:16Speaker 3: I think it's important for me to make the smoothie,
- 30:18Speaker 3: and I also look forward to the smoothie.
- 30:20Speaker 4: There's a like a smoothie.
- 30:22Speaker 3: Bar in the gym that I specifically have trained myself
- 30:26Speaker 3: not to go to because it would be so much
- 30:28Speaker 3: easier to get there smoothie. But then I walk home
- 30:31Speaker 3: with this smoothe when I'd rather just like get that
- 30:33Speaker 3: quick mile, be back and get my day started. So
- 30:37Speaker 3: for me, now I have gotten back into a smoothie routine,
- 30:40Speaker 3: which I haven't been in years.
- 30:42Speaker 4: But I enjoy it.
- 30:43Speaker 1: I really appreciate your intentionality with everything, dude.
- 30:46Speaker 3: The intentionality behind that is a it costs so much
- 30:49Speaker 3: more money to buy the smoothie at the gym, although like,
- 30:51Speaker 3: there will be a time and a place where I'm
- 30:53Speaker 3: like today, I'm treating myself to a smoothie, especially when
- 30:55Speaker 3: I don't have somewhere to go. So if I'm going
- 30:57Speaker 3: to the gym on maybe a Sunday, that's a smoothie
- 30:59Speaker 3: opera coortunity versus the one that I like make myself
- 31:02Speaker 3: when I come home. But also I like seeing what's
- 31:05Speaker 3: actually going in. And although I totally respect and appreciate
- 31:10Speaker 3: and I'm sure that they're dialed into they're putting into
- 31:14Speaker 3: this movie what they say they're putting into this movie,
- 31:16Speaker 3: I just I like to do it myself.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah.
- 31:19Speaker 2: I also, yeah, just being able to put your own
- 31:22Speaker 2: ingredients in Yeah, it's empowering. But I will say a
- 31:25Speaker 2: lot of people tell me like, yeah, but there's so
- 31:27Speaker 2: many ingredients, and like, okay, cool, So.
- 31:28Speaker 1: I can with the hack you raise this.
- 31:30Speaker 4: I'm ready for the hack.
- 31:30Speaker 2: So I go buy a bunch of what we call
- 31:34Speaker 2: essentially plant containers, which are two cups we use them
- 31:37Speaker 2: at the restaurant to store, you know, ingredients, So you
- 31:41Speaker 2: get a bunch of those, and what you do is
- 31:43Speaker 2: you put all your ingredients bar the milk into them.
- 31:47Speaker 2: So say you make at the start of the week
- 31:49Speaker 2: and you want to have your five days of smoothies
- 31:51Speaker 2: be five smoothies, so you make five of these cork
- 31:54Speaker 2: these plant containers and it could be like banana, blueberries,
- 31:57Speaker 2: you spinach, you know whatever other the greens put in there,
- 32:00Speaker 2: and then you just go straight to get home and
- 32:03Speaker 2: you simply come out of the freezer, put those in,
- 32:05Speaker 2: maybe add your mix of seeds and nuts, and then
- 32:08Speaker 2: your milk and if protein's there as well. So instead
- 32:10Speaker 2: of having to undo every single thing, you save so
- 32:13Speaker 2: much more time by one day of the week putting
- 32:16Speaker 2: them all into your plant containers.
- 32:18Speaker 3: And it's better when the fruits are frozen. The smoothie
- 32:21Speaker 3: consistency is better. Can we also just like, okay, you
- 32:25Speaker 3: kind of just broke it down, but like on a
- 32:27Speaker 3: really granular level, let's break down if you're having a smoothie,
- 32:33Speaker 3: and I know it will differ based on maybe what
- 32:36Speaker 3: you're doing before you have the smoothie, but say someone's
- 32:39Speaker 3: doing a workout of some sort, they come home, They're like,
- 32:41Speaker 3: I want to have a smoothie because I know I
- 32:43Speaker 3: should be getting in my carbs, my healthy fats, my proteins.
- 32:46Speaker 4: Talk to me about what goes in an ideal smoothie.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Yeah, So again depending on everyone's goals and orientation. But
- 32:53Speaker 2: we'll just say, for like a foundational just energy.
- 32:55Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 32:56Speaker 2: You know, all macro nutrients, all macronutrians are essential. So
- 33:00Speaker 2: you do want certain things coming out of a workout.
- 33:04Speaker 2: You probably want to have less fat because fat can
- 33:07Speaker 2: slow down your digestion process. So you know, for me,
- 33:11Speaker 2: for example, when I finish your workout, I'm trying to
- 33:13Speaker 2: get carbs and protein into my body. If I am
- 33:17Speaker 2: having fats let down that digestion process, it's going to
- 33:19Speaker 2: affect the speed in which my body can utilize those
- 33:22Speaker 2: macronutrients of carbs and protein. So what I mean by
- 33:25Speaker 2: that is I probably restrict the amount of nut butters
- 33:28Speaker 2: that I have because obviously it's you know, consistency.
- 33:31Speaker 1: Of fat and their same with avocado.
- 33:33Speaker 2: I'd prefer to have that before a workout, although not
- 33:35Speaker 2: too heavy as well, given the fact that people can't
- 33:39Speaker 2: consume fat. And then if they're doing a big metcon
- 33:42Speaker 2: affect their ability to sit in their stomach, so post
- 33:45Speaker 2: workout ideally, so I'd sit around like fifty grams of carbohydrates.
- 33:51Speaker 1: Reason for this is pretty simple. A body can store sixty.
- 33:55Speaker 2: Grams of certain forms of glucose and then an additional
- 34:00Speaker 2: you know, thirty of fuctos. So you're like looking at
- 34:02Speaker 2: ninety is what you can maximize per hour right at
- 34:05Speaker 2: the time. So they used to just be thinking sixty
- 34:08Speaker 2: was enough, and then we realized there was another thirty
- 34:11Speaker 2: of a different type of you know, I guess in
- 34:14Speaker 2: this case sugar can kind of un unlock. But I'd
- 34:17Speaker 2: say for the majority of people coming out of a
- 34:19Speaker 2: workout male female, fifty to sixty grams is sufficient. If
- 34:23Speaker 2: someone who's doing a serious workout, you want to go
- 34:26Speaker 2: to the upper echelon of like ninety you know, protein wise,
- 34:29Speaker 2: I'd say around thirty to forty grams realistic, and then
- 34:33Speaker 2: you know, you want to minimize your fat to like
- 34:35Speaker 2: no more in my opinion of like five grams.
- 34:38Speaker 4: Gotcha, And from like a visual POV.
- 34:41Speaker 3: If we're talking about using fruit as that carbohydrates finishes
- 34:45Speaker 3: that carbohydrate, we're talking about like a cup, right.
- 34:48Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred yeah, Like if you were to feel
- 34:51Speaker 2: one of those pint containers, it's you know, you should
- 34:54Speaker 2: see if you looked at it from the side on
- 34:56Speaker 2: one third of it free.
- 34:57Speaker 1: So let's say a bit over a cup, I mean green.
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- 36:27Speaker 3: other thing I wanted to double click on from before
- 36:30Speaker 3: was you said a really beautiful term which I think
- 36:33Speaker 3: we should elaborate on, and that is a diversity of plants.
- 36:37Speaker 3: What does it mean to have a diversity of plants
- 36:39Speaker 3: in your diet and what should that look like.
- 36:42Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's two things to kind of note here.
- 36:44Speaker 2: One's like more exciting to me because of a chef.
- 36:46Speaker 2: The other side of it is more inciting just for
- 36:48Speaker 2: people who are in the science space.
- 36:50Speaker 1: But colors have a relationship.
- 36:54Speaker 2: Colors in food have a relationship with obviously pigments, and
- 36:58Speaker 2: pigmentation themselves has a relationship with nutritional value. So certain
- 37:03Speaker 2: colors have certain types of micronutrients that respond to certain
- 37:07Speaker 2: receptors in our body. Similarly, though, certain types of colors
- 37:11Speaker 2: and the more dense they are, have more flavor. So
- 37:14Speaker 2: for me, that's why the flavor is exciting. What's important
- 37:17Speaker 2: to understand is if you're only getting one type of color,
- 37:20Speaker 2: you're only getting one type of micronutrient. So if you're
- 37:23Speaker 2: only getting if you smashed beet roots all week, it's
- 37:27Speaker 2: not a good thing. People like say, you know, having
- 37:30Speaker 2: chocolates too much bad for you. It is having too
- 37:32Speaker 2: much beech. It would be bad for you too. Not
- 37:34Speaker 2: only will your bathroom look like it's been painted purple everywhere,
- 37:38Speaker 2: but you're just not getting enough of the diversity. Now,
- 37:41Speaker 2: the reason for this is important. If you have a
- 37:44Speaker 2: diversity of plants, you are helping support a diversity of
- 37:49Speaker 2: microbes within you. Now, Doctor b talks about the importance
- 37:52Speaker 2: of diversity in the microbiome. So you know, for every
- 37:56Speaker 2: form of microbiome there's a specific dietary fiber that helps
- 38:00Speaker 2: look after it for it's consume to then create what's
- 38:03Speaker 2: called a post biotic. So, simply put, if you have
- 38:06Speaker 2: a variety of plants, you are eating a variety of
- 38:11Speaker 2: micro nutrients, which means you are feeding a variety of
- 38:15Speaker 2: your microbiome. And I love avengers. I also love sporting analogies.
- 38:23Speaker 2: But Tom Brady is the goat, right, But if I
- 38:26Speaker 2: only fed my body enough to create Tom Brady's his
- 38:30Speaker 2: offensive line would not allow him to be awesome because
- 38:33Speaker 2: he can't block, you know. So my point is you
- 38:36Speaker 2: want to make sure you get a full team to
- 38:38Speaker 2: look after your insights. And that is where having a
- 38:40Speaker 2: variety of greens, yellows, reds, even blues is so important.
- 38:46Speaker 2: So then you can talk about the function. So the
- 38:47Speaker 2: post body function has a lot to do with the
- 38:50Speaker 2: connection between your gut and the brain directly through something
- 38:55Speaker 2: called the vagus nerve. And I won't go into too
- 38:59Speaker 2: detail on this simply put. Just know that if you're
- 39:02Speaker 2: involving your brain in anything, it is the central area
- 39:08Speaker 2: for cognition and so many other aspects. So to look
- 39:11Speaker 2: after our performance, you have to look after your second brain,
- 39:15Speaker 2: which is the gut connected to your first brain, the brain,
- 39:18Speaker 2: And a lot of that is to do by eating
- 39:20Speaker 2: enough plants and a variety of that.
- 39:23Speaker 4: We love it. We love plants.
- 39:24Speaker 1: We do love plants. Are you getting enough plants?
- 39:26Speaker 4: I hope I'm getting enough plants. I like plants.
- 39:28Speaker 3: Okay, I mean between in the morning I'm doing well,
- 39:32Speaker 3: not plants, but in the morning, well, yes, plants. I'm
- 39:34Speaker 3: doing some fruits and usually some sort of an omelet
- 39:38Speaker 3: with like different veggies in it. Lunch is always some
- 39:40Speaker 3: sort of a salad with like some sort of a
- 39:42Speaker 3: protein in it. I'm like a big and then of
- 39:45Speaker 3: course that's smoothie after I go to the gym. So
- 39:47Speaker 3: I'm always finding a way to mix plants into the mix.
- 39:49Speaker 3: Yes see, yeah, that should be thanks dude. Noah, we're
- 39:53Speaker 3: working on it beyond the things that you've mentioned here,
- 39:57Speaker 3: knowing specifically what's good for you in your body, next
- 40:00Speaker 3: thing refined sugars, and also making sure that you're getting
- 40:03Speaker 3: in enough plants. I want to also touch on the
- 40:07Speaker 3: importance of hydration when it comes to eating like a
- 40:10Speaker 3: legend aka also drinking like a legend. Why is it
- 40:14Speaker 3: important that we also center around hydration when we're thinking
- 40:18Speaker 3: about performing optimally.
- 40:20Speaker 2: Yeah. So particularly, I'd say electrolytes are having that moment
- 40:24Speaker 2: a lot of it to the fact that running so cool.
- 40:27Speaker 2: And I will have a caveat in saying, like when
- 40:30Speaker 2: I say we don't consume enough sodium in our day,
- 40:33Speaker 2: I will say that is with those people who are
- 40:37Speaker 2: not consuming prepared packaged foods. Recently, as a New York
- 40:42Speaker 2: Times article talked about sodium and it gave you like
- 40:45Speaker 2: a quiz like ten part quiz and a look at
- 40:47Speaker 2: two different types of meals and I asked you which
- 40:51Speaker 2: one had more sodiuminim and you'd be surprised about, like
- 40:54Speaker 2: particular those with packaged foods how much sodiumus in them.
- 40:57Speaker 2: But if you are not consuming packaged foods, you'll be
- 41:02Speaker 2: some and you're doing a lot of particularly long endurance efforts,
- 41:05Speaker 2: you'll need to consume electrolytes on top of the hydration now,
- 41:09Speaker 2: because a two percent dehydration or two percent just two
- 41:13Speaker 2: percent dehydration will lead to a detriment in your performance
- 41:16Speaker 2: cognitively and physically. So you know, probably talking specifically around
- 41:22Speaker 2: running right now, or just any endurance effort. We sweat
- 41:26Speaker 2: and we lose anywhere between three point fifty to seven
- 41:29Speaker 2: hundred milligrams or cera and in per hour of work.
- 41:32Speaker 1: I'm a heavy sweater, me too, Yeah, dude.
- 41:35Speaker 4: And I'm a heavy salt sweater.
- 41:36Speaker 1: There you go.
- 41:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had like my sweat analyzed before and I'm
- 41:40Speaker 3: like a very salty sweater.
- 41:41Speaker 2: So you can get as you've just noted, you can
- 41:44Speaker 2: get sweat tested to get you a quantitative understanding of use.
- 41:47Speaker 2: That's one way you can do this if you don't
- 41:49Speaker 2: want to go that, but you know you've noted.
- 41:51Speaker 3: I think Geid has at home sweat test kits as well,
- 41:55Speaker 3: Like I don't think that you need to go to
- 41:57Speaker 3: a lab, Like I don't want people listening to this
- 41:59Speaker 3: to be like, how the hell is someone like me
- 42:01Speaker 3: gonna get sweat test? Said, Yeah, I'm pretty sure you
- 42:03Speaker 3: can literally google one on Amazon.
- 42:05Speaker 1: Cool.
- 42:05Speaker 4: Yeah, well there you got fun fact.
- 42:07Speaker 2: Fun fact. So you know, you can obviously get quantitatively tested,
- 42:10Speaker 2: but then you can know what spectrum you want. And
- 42:13Speaker 2: for me, it's like, I know I sweat so much,
- 42:16Speaker 2: so I need to consume seven hundred milligrams of sodium
- 42:20Speaker 2: per hour of work that put in. So I did
- 42:22Speaker 2: an hour and a half workout this morning. So just
- 42:25Speaker 2: for me to maintain that, I probably have to have
- 42:26Speaker 2: around one point two, you know, twelve hundred milligrams of
- 42:30Speaker 2: sodium and or electrolytes in general, because I don't want
- 42:34Speaker 2: to detriment I don't want to detriment my performance. So
- 42:37Speaker 2: important to do so, like we hear about the importance
- 42:40Speaker 2: of fluid for you know, our skin, our hair, you know,
- 42:44Speaker 2: going back to it, like we've got to remember that
- 42:46Speaker 2: it's for everything we talk about performance, cognitive and physical,
- 42:50Speaker 2: and so you know, if you're not taking one of
- 42:52Speaker 2: those amazing Stanley cups, have you got a Stanley cup?
- 42:55Speaker 4: A Stanley cup?
- 42:56Speaker 1: Have you not got a Stanley Cup? Oh?
- 42:58Speaker 4: Oh, I'm not like, I'm sorry.
- 42:59Speaker 3: I I literally heard you say that, Dan, and I
- 43:02Speaker 3: thought you were asking me if I had like a
- 43:05Speaker 3: hockey Stanley cup, And I was like, I am unsure
- 43:08Speaker 3: why I would have the Stanley actually my apartment, but
- 43:11Speaker 3: you're asking me if I have the Stanley like TikTok cup,
- 43:15Speaker 3: like the drinking cup.
- 43:16Speaker 4: No, I don't you know why?
- 43:17Speaker 3: Because I drink out of this fellow like refillable bottle.
- 43:22Speaker 3: It looks so much more sleek to me, and like
- 43:25Speaker 3: I just couldn't.
- 43:26Speaker 4: It's so big.
- 43:27Speaker 3: I work out hard enough, Like why do I need
- 43:29Speaker 3: to work out carrying my bottle around my apartment?
- 43:31Speaker 1: Is? It is obnoxiously lost?
- 43:33Speaker 4: It's so big.
- 43:34Speaker 3: I mean appreciation and no hate to the Stanley girlies.
- 43:37Speaker 3: I respect your hydration hustle. Sorry, I was very confused
- 43:42Speaker 3: there for a moment.
- 43:43Speaker 1: I you know, it's funny. I said the same thing
- 43:45Speaker 1: to my mate.
- 43:45Speaker 2: He lives in Brooklyn and he's like, no, I would
- 43:48Speaker 2: have had the actual Stanley cup at my place.
- 43:50Speaker 4: Oh wow, and he's super humble.
- 43:52Speaker 2: Mine.
- 43:53Speaker 1: It's like a pretty cool flex flex. Yeah, yeah, it's
- 43:55Speaker 1: really really cool. But yeah, it's just.
- 43:57Speaker 2: Like in general, make sure that you're drinking sufficient fluid
- 44:01Speaker 2: on top of the electrolotes you are having. And people say,
- 44:04Speaker 2: what's that, it's like, well, people say eight cups. It's
- 44:07Speaker 2: more like in my pin ten. But it also depends
- 44:10Speaker 2: on you as an individual, your wig, your mass, and
- 44:13Speaker 2: you can just look that up.
- 44:14Speaker 1: It's pretty simple.
- 44:15Speaker 3: I always also tell people to meet themselves with where
- 44:18Speaker 3: they're at when it comes to setting hydration goals, because
- 44:21Speaker 3: I think at least I can speak from personal experience
- 44:24Speaker 3: that I've had very aspirational hydration goals in the past
- 44:28Speaker 3: that aren't very realistic for where I'm beginning. So, just
- 44:31Speaker 3: like with any other goal, that you can set a
- 44:33Speaker 3: smart goal when it comes to your hydration. If you're
- 44:36Speaker 3: right now sitting at home, I'm staring at this diet cokecine.
- 44:39Speaker 3: You're having like three diet cokes a day and you're
- 44:41Speaker 3: not drinking any water for us to tell you that
- 44:44Speaker 3: you should start drinking ten cups of water a day.
- 44:47Speaker 3: That's not going to be a realistic goal for you
- 44:49Speaker 3: where you are in this moment.
- 44:51Speaker 4: So maybe a more.
- 44:52Speaker 3: Specific, measurable, attainable, relevant, time bound goal for you is,
- 44:55Speaker 3: I'm going to start drinking three to four cups of
- 44:58Speaker 3: water per day and begin there, and then once you
- 45:02Speaker 3: get that into some sort of a routine, whether that
- 45:05Speaker 3: takes two weeks or a month, then you can up
- 45:07Speaker 3: that threshold. You don't want to set a goal that's
- 45:10Speaker 3: going to set you up for a failure.
- 45:12Speaker 1: Not one once again, get the reps in like you.
- 45:17Speaker 2: Had. I'll tell you firsthand, I've gone all in on
- 45:20Speaker 2: hitting a number from scratch and I just couldn't stop
- 45:24Speaker 2: paying and like that affected my sleep. It affected my
- 45:27Speaker 2: performance because I couldn't like I couldn't focus on a task.
- 45:31Speaker 2: You know, I had a very felt like a small bladder.
- 45:33Speaker 2: So progressively, get into a place where you meet where
- 45:36Speaker 2: you are exactly meet.
- 45:37Speaker 4: Yourself with where you're at.
- 45:39Speaker 3: Also, to come back and circle back on what we
- 45:41Speaker 3: were talking about, Gatorade cells a GX sweat patch. It's
- 45:45Speaker 3: seven point fifty on their website and literally it connects
- 45:49Speaker 3: to an app and you can learn all of this
- 45:51Speaker 3: data about your body fluid loss, sweat rate, the consistency
- 45:55Speaker 3: of your sweat.
- 45:56Speaker 4: I mean, that's pretty rad.
- 45:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a massive fan of i'd write in general,
- 46:00Speaker 2: but that's pretty cool and that I can have that.
- 46:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 46:03Speaker 3: No, And I will also say for me, hydration over
- 46:06Speaker 3: the last few years, as I've learned more about my
- 46:08Speaker 3: body and learn that I'm a really salty sweater, has
- 46:10Speaker 3: really been rooted in consumption of electrolytes.
- 46:14Speaker 4: Element is a partner of the show.
- 46:16Speaker 3: Also, I recently switched to using regular milk back in
- 46:20Speaker 3: my smoothies and like ditch the almond milk just because
- 46:23Speaker 3: the almond milk wasn't really giving me a lot of
- 46:26Speaker 3: being for my book. And candidly, I'm fortunate because regular
- 46:31Speaker 3: milk doesn't mess with my stomach. I know that a
- 46:33Speaker 3: lot of people we talked about knowing your body and
- 46:35Speaker 3: knowing what feels right for you, regular milk feels right
- 46:38Speaker 3: for me. But again, everyone to each their own and
- 46:40Speaker 3: think these electrolyte focus and being really dialed in on
- 46:43Speaker 3: how I can integrate that into my regular day to
- 46:46Speaker 3: day has served me really well one hundred percent.
- 46:48Speaker 1: Mate, You listen to yourself and that's this is how
- 46:51Speaker 1: you progress.
- 46:51Speaker 4: This is how you progress.
- 46:52Speaker 1: Bring back the.
- 46:53Speaker 4: Mood, bring back the moo movement for the moo.
- 46:57Speaker 3: Well, Dan, this book looks amazing and you're gonna ask
- 47:00Speaker 3: some really amazing tips when it comes to leveling up
- 47:04Speaker 3: and quote unquote eating like a legend.
- 47:06Speaker 4: Is there anything and I'm talking?
- 47:08Speaker 3: I know we could talk for hours, but any other
- 47:11Speaker 3: big tip that you want to hand me when it
- 47:13Speaker 3: comes to dialing in our mental and physical performance within
- 47:16Speaker 3: your diet.
- 47:17Speaker 2: Look, I think the biggest thing we face in the
- 47:21Speaker 2: space of cooking at home is people find either intimidating
- 47:27Speaker 2: or you know, the time, maybe the cost. But bringing
- 47:31Speaker 2: it back full circle once again, to get in the
- 47:33Speaker 2: reps in I can first town tell you, as a
- 47:36Speaker 2: professional chef with my name on a restaurant, I screw
- 47:41Speaker 2: up the first recipe more often than not because I'm
- 47:44Speaker 2: trialing an error like that's what happens. But unfortunately people
- 47:49Speaker 2: don't have the patience typically to do the same thing.
- 47:53Speaker 2: So if I gave everyone the task of cooking a
- 47:55Speaker 2: recipe from my book every Tuesday night for the next
- 47:59Speaker 2: three weeks, the first one would be the most expensive,
- 48:02Speaker 2: it would take the most time, and it will be
- 48:05Speaker 2: the most challenging physically, but by the third time you're
- 48:09Speaker 2: doing it, you'll be the cheapest. You'll know exactly where
- 48:12Speaker 2: everything is in your kitchen, You've already bought most of
- 48:14Speaker 2: the ingredients, and you'll known the first two times how
- 48:18Speaker 2: you actually need to get between the kitchen to save time.
- 48:22Speaker 2: So if you apply the same principles, you could make
- 48:25Speaker 2: washing up so efficient not time consuming. And I do
- 48:29Speaker 2: say that, like everyone thing's about cooking is time consuming.
- 48:32Speaker 2: Some dishes take two hours to cook, but only take
- 48:36Speaker 2: ten minutes of your time on the tools. So yeah,
- 48:41Speaker 2: I just say, like, get the reps in and give
- 48:43Speaker 2: yourself a challenge of cooking the same meal for the
- 48:45Speaker 2: next three weeks every Tuesday night, start at like six
- 48:48Speaker 2: point thirty. Give yourself the time, and you be surprised
- 48:51Speaker 2: over the next three weeks.
- 48:53Speaker 3: I love that I love cooking and I really do
- 48:56Speaker 3: use it as a stress reliever. I just need to
- 48:58Speaker 3: like highlight some of the recipes in this I'm gonna
- 49:00Speaker 3: speak real quick chickpea curry with roasted sweet potato and
- 49:03Speaker 3: DL yogurt, almond crusted spiced chicken with secret weapon tofu
- 49:07Speaker 3: IOLI wait I'm still going, Oh, there's a no time
- 49:10Speaker 3: to cook section twelve minutes to shakshuka Heaven. I love
- 49:14Speaker 3: shakshu ga. I try to do shak shuka Sundays one
- 49:17Speaker 3: minute miso samon with easy, perfect back choy. Yes please,
- 49:22Speaker 3: I mean oh, there's a whole chapter on how to
- 49:24Speaker 3: impress a girl or guy dot dot dot or friends.
- 49:27Speaker 3: I'm telling you this book has a lot of good
- 49:29Speaker 3: stuff in here. I'm so excited for you, truly, I
- 49:32Speaker 3: can't be more amped. I'll put the link to the
- 49:34Speaker 3: book in the show notes. For those of you that
- 49:36Speaker 3: don't follow along with Dan just yet, Dan, give us
- 49:39Speaker 3: your info and tell us how they could do so.
- 49:41Speaker 2: Yeah. So best way to look as you know, just
- 49:43Speaker 2: my name Dan Churchill, whether it be website, Instagram, TikTok YouTube,
- 49:48Speaker 2: And it's Father's Day and Mother's Day coming up. So
- 49:51Speaker 2: there's a great way to either pick a book for
- 49:53Speaker 2: a friend, a mother, a father, or if you just
- 49:57Speaker 2: want to go to cook for you. You just picked
- 50:00Speaker 2: the book up and hand it to him and see
- 50:02Speaker 2: what happens.
- 50:03Speaker 4: Invest in yourself. Awesome.
- 50:04Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily a body at Hurdle podcast Another
- 50:08Speaker 3: Hurdle conquered.
- 50:09Speaker 4: Catch you guys next time.