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Sarah Kearns Begs Followers for Engagement, Lily Brown Shames a Sex Worker for Wearing Her Brand And Sammy Robinson Says She’s Not a Serial Dater · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. Coming
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  Speaker 1: up on today's show, Sarah Kearns begs followers to engage
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  Speaker 1: with her paid promotion. Lily Brown is slammed for shaming
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  Speaker 1: a sex worker for wearing her brand. And Sammy Robinson
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  Speaker 1: hits back at claims she's.
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  Speaker 2: A serial dater. But first, Chloe Zepp.
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  Speaker 1: Has announced she's launching a new venture under her activewear
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  Speaker 1: brand Zepp's Umbrella. It is called Self-Care Culture, and it's
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  Speaker 1: been touted as an educational video platform that's designed to
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  Speaker 1: inspire movement and mindfulness practices within the SEP community. At first,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, it's just another influencer bringing out workout videos.
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  Speaker 1: And I also thought it sounded very similar to her
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  Speaker 1: previous venture, WellWeb, that absolutely bombed. However, there is a
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  Speaker 1: big difference. So this platform is free. So to access it,
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  Speaker 1: you just go onto the ZEP activewear website.
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  Speaker 2: And currently there are.
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  Speaker 1: Two videos available to watch. So one is a 10
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  Speaker 1: minute guided mobility session and the other is a 20
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  Speaker 1: minute guided Pilates session. I do think where they've missed
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  Speaker 1: the mark though, is that Chloe isn't actually taking the sessions.
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  Speaker 1: I do think, though, it's a good idea to give
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  Speaker 1: something back for free because this is a way that
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  Speaker 1: her community are going to buy in. They're going to
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  Speaker 1: start enjoying these free videos. And then ultimately, I'm guessing
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  Speaker 1: that she will bring out a paid form of this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's very clear at the moment that Chloe
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  Speaker 1: is being guided by a clever marketing team and building
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  Speaker 1: a community is absolutely crucial, as you said, for influencers
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  Speaker 1: with brands these days. And there is no better way
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  Speaker 1: to do that than with free content. I do wonder
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  Speaker 1: if she's taken inspiration from Steph Clare-Smith and Laura Henshaw's
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  Speaker 1: business kick because she recently opened up in a Q &
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  Speaker 1: A how she reached out to someone who she called
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  Speaker 1: industry leaders when she was struggling with her business. She
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  Speaker 1: is friends with Steph. Yeah, there was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: speculation at the time as to who this industry professional was.
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  Speaker 1: Many people thought it might have been Matilda Murray from Starks,
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  Speaker 1: but I think you're right, Kate.
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  Speaker 2: It probably was Steph Clare-Smith.
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  Speaker 1: Now, on the topic of Chloe, her mum Cherie got
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  Speaker 1: married over the weekend and it was a chance for
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  Speaker 1: Chloe and Mitch to quash breakup rumours. So they shared
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  Speaker 1: some very cute photos of them looking loved up together
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  Speaker 1: at the wedding, as well as a video on the
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  Speaker 1: dance floor. Now, Chloe and her sister Amy were bridesmaids,
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  Speaker 1: which I thought was really cute. However, their third sister
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  Speaker 1: Kate was a notable absentee. So Kate Zep hasn't posted
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  Speaker 1: on her Instagram account since June 2023. And the latest
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  Speaker 1: information I could find about her was from a Daily
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  Speaker 1: Mail article.
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  Speaker 2: Written in January 2024.
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  Speaker 1: So in the article, it said that Kate and her boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Roman Brennan, were suing the state of Queensland after
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  Speaker 1: a police officer allegedly stole three luxury watches from their
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  Speaker 1: townhouse during a raid. Now, that raid was a part
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  Speaker 1: of an investigation. into allegations that Jordan assaulted a woman
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  Speaker 1: who trod on Kate's foot at a music festival.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember that drama?
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  Speaker 1: I do. That seems like it was so long ago. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it was actually three years ago now, and the police
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  Speaker 1: officer in question is facing criminal charges over the alleged
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  Speaker 1: theft of the watches, valued at.
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  Speaker 2: A whopping $ 410, 000.
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  Speaker 1: Now, despite three years passing, the case against the police
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  Speaker 1: officer is yet to be resolved. So Kate's boyfriend has
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  Speaker 1: sued the state of Queensland to get the watches returned
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  Speaker 1: or be compensated for their.
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  Speaker 2: Value plus legal costs.
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  Speaker 1: And the lawyer has now sought to add Kate as
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  Speaker 1: a co-claimant with Brennan in that action. We haven't heard
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  Speaker 1: anything since then. So I don't know if it has
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  Speaker 1: been thrown out. So maybe Kate's got a bit too
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  Speaker 1: much going on to rock up for her mum's wedding. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there's something going on. She's gone completely MIA. You would
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  Speaker 1: think you'd be there at your mum's wedding though.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely.
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  Speaker 1: It does signal that there must be some sort of
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  Speaker 1: relationship breakdown, which is very sad.
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  Speaker 3: You're the one throwing all the hate.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you've said a nice thing about me ever, ever.
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  Speaker 1: Lily Brown has been slammed for shaming an OnlyFans creator
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  Speaker 1: for wearing her brand. The loungewear owner ended up deleting
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  Speaker 1: her comments, but the damage was already done.
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  Speaker 2: Soph, can you tell us more?
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  Speaker 1: Well, the OnlyFans creator in question is Tasha Page, who
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  Speaker 1: has over 129,000 followers on Instagram. And late last week,
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  Speaker 1: Tasha uploaded a video of her and her friends wearing
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  Speaker 1: white t-shirts and pouring jugs of water over themselves to
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  Speaker 1: expose their breasts. And the t-shirts just so happened to
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  Speaker 1: be from Lily's brand Chill. And the name Chill was
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  Speaker 1: clearly visible across the.
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  Speaker 2: Girl's chest in the video.
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  Speaker 1: Now, rather than being happy for the free brand exposure...
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  Speaker 1: Lily hit out at Tasha writing on the reel, this
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  Speaker 1: ain't it chicks. She also reposted a screenshot of Tasha
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  Speaker 1: and her friend to her Instagram story and wrote, what
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  Speaker 1: the fuck is going on here with three skeleton emojis.
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  Speaker 1: She continued, please report this. This is not a chill campaign.
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  Speaker 1: Now the backlash was swift. Women came out in full
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  Speaker 1: force to support Tasha in the comments, causing Lily to
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  Speaker 1: delete her original comment and Instagram story. Someone wrote, Lily babes,
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  Speaker 1: it's 2024 and being insecure and projecting that onto someone
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  Speaker 1: else is not it, chick. Now that comment got 184 likes.
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  Speaker 1: Another person wrote, haha, Lily Brown being served has made
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  Speaker 1: my day. She's always giving mean girl energy.
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  Speaker 2: Love this, gals.
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  Speaker 1: That post got 197 likes. And another comment read, lol,
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  Speaker 1: Lily Brown forgetting she was on her main and not
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  Speaker 1: burner for bullying women. That comment got 219 likes. I
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  Speaker 1: am just at a loss to understand why Lily would
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  Speaker 1: have brought attention to this video if she thought it
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  Speaker 1: was so off brand. All she's done is brought attention
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  Speaker 1: to the fact that her comments came across.
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  Speaker 2: As very slut shamey.
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  Speaker 1: I really thought that she would have been pleased that
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  Speaker 1: someone with 125,000 followers or whatever it was, was promoting
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  Speaker 1: her brand in this way. It seemed like quite a
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  Speaker 1: fun video that got a lot of traction.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's super strange.
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  Speaker 1: I do wonder if there's any merit to the comments
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  Speaker 1: that she thought she was originally in her burner account.
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  Speaker 1: We do know that she has one because we have
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  Speaker 1: been allegedly messaged.
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  Speaker 2: From it before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but why would she write that in a burner
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  Speaker 1: account anyway? I think she knew that she was in
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  Speaker 1: her name. I think that she must have been receiving
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  Speaker 1: a lot of direct messages about this video and and
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  Speaker 1: felt alarmed that people were thinking this was genuinely a
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  Speaker 1: chill campaign and she felt like this video didn't reflect
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  Speaker 1: her brand properly.
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  Speaker 2: It's done the complete opposite.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of the commentary was not to support chill
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  Speaker 1: because they don't appreciate the slut shaming.
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  Speaker 2: From Lily Brown.
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  Speaker 1: It is bizarre timing considering that she has just been
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  Speaker 1: announced as a contestant on the celebrity edition of The
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  Speaker 1: Amazing Race. A lot of people would have been going
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  Speaker 1: over to her page and engaging with her off the
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  Speaker 1: back of that news. So she will be appearing alongside
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  Speaker 1: her boyfriend, Jet Kenny. And the news does put into
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  Speaker 1: perspective some of what she's been saying recently on her podcast,
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  Speaker 1: because she has been very open about struggling with money,
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  Speaker 1: but then referencing this six.
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  Speaker 2: Week trip to Europe.
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  Speaker 1: So it's quite clear that this six week trip is
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  Speaker 1: for the amazing race.
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  Speaker 2: In a recent episode, Lily.
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  Speaker 1: Did open up that she's had moments during the past
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  Speaker 1: couple of years where she just wished that she stuck
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  Speaker 1: at influencing instead of starting a business because it's just
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  Speaker 1: so difficult. And the amount of money that you got
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  Speaker 1: from influencing was far greater and far easier work. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And she almost alluded to the fact that she's kind
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  Speaker 1: of seeing how it goes with chill. She said she's
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  Speaker 1: not going to shut it down, but I think this
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  Speaker 1: amazing race thing will be very telling. So if she
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  Speaker 1: takes off like Sky Wheatley did on I'm a Celeb
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  Speaker 1: and becomes really popular, maybe she might move back into
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  Speaker 1: the influencing or again, use it as a leap pad
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  Speaker 1: for her own brand. Well, Jet Kenny is very likable.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that Lily would have some really great
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  Speaker 1: funny moments for TV. Maybe her facial expressions. She is
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  Speaker 1: a walking meme. I think that she's perfect for these
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  Speaker 1: types of TV shows. I do worry about trolling though,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe her being turned into a villain. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: in other Lily Brown news, her best friend and fellow influencer,
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  Speaker 1: M Davies, shared that they're actually on the hunt for
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  Speaker 1: a Perth videographer. So the videographer must have experience in
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  Speaker 1: podcast style filming and long form video and editing work
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  Speaker 1: for a project that they're working on together in July. However,
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  Speaker 1: Em has confirmed that it's not a podcast.
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  Speaker 2: So I wonder what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's weird to outline that you want podcast style
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  Speaker 1: filming and then say it's not a podcast. I'm wondering
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  Speaker 1: if it's for an online course. Em Davies is bringing
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  Speaker 1: out a social media course. So perhaps it's potentially for that.
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  Speaker 3: As a busy mum of three, I love making our
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  Speaker 3: mealtimes quick and easy, but ensuring that my growing boys
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  Speaker 3: are being supported with nutritious meals.
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  Speaker 1: Mummy blogger Sarah Kearns has asked the question every influencer
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  Speaker 1: isn't supposed to ask. Can you engage with my content?
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  Speaker 1: The influencer created a video as part of a paid
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  Speaker 1: promotion with Big W for Mother's Day and shared it
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  Speaker 1: across her Instagram and Facebook.
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  Speaker 2: Now, it appears The.
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  Speaker 1: Real wasn't performing the way she hoped because She shared
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  Speaker 1: a message essentially begging her.
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  Speaker 2: Followers to engage with the reel.
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  Speaker 1: She wrote, Dear Facebook friends, I posted a reel for
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  Speaker 1: a brilliant Mother's Day gift and I would be so
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  Speaker 1: grateful if you would all blow it up with likes
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  Speaker 1: and comments. I was so excited to work with this
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  Speaker 1: brand and I'd love it to do well for them.
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  Speaker 1: And I know you all friends will love the product.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to send a little Mother's Day gift out
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  Speaker 1: to a random person who comments as a thank you. Now,
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  Speaker 1: The Real ended up getting 694 likes, 56 comments, 76 send-ons,
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  Speaker 1: and 58.6 thousand views. It's clear this promise of a
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  Speaker 1: little gift has persuaded a lot of her followers to
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  Speaker 1: jump in and comment and engage with this post. And
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  Speaker 1: I do find it quite interesting that she says that
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  Speaker 1: she wants this post to succeed for the brand. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: but it's clear that she wants this post to succeed
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  Speaker 1: for herself because she wants to come back with that brand.
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  Speaker 1: She wants to tell them how good the engagement is
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  Speaker 1: so that they want to pay her and work with
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  Speaker 1: her again. I can see why The Real didn't organically
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  Speaker 1: perform well. I feel like we're in a time where
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  Speaker 1: influencers just can't rest on their laurels because It's a
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  Speaker 1: very saturated market and content creators are getting very good
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  Speaker 1: at their jobs. And the idea of Sarah's Reel was
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  Speaker 1: that she was on this mission to receive the greatest Mother's.
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  Speaker 2: Day gift ever.
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  Speaker 1: And she filmed herself in store at Big W reacting
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  Speaker 1: very over the top about quite basic gifts. So it
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  Speaker 1: was a Friends branded loungewear. She then dropped hints to
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  Speaker 1: her family that she wanted the clothing as a gift
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  Speaker 1: for Mother's Day. And in the end, she purchased the
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  Speaker 1: gift herself, wrapped it up and planted it amongst the
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  Speaker 1: array of other gifts her children had apparently bought her. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if this content popped up in my feed, I would
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  Speaker 1: have immediately scrolled past it. It wasn't shot very well.
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  Speaker 1: It was boring and it was blatantly an ad. The
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  Speaker 1: video didn't hit the mark for me. Maybe I'm not
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  Speaker 1: its intended audience. But I think that a better strategy
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  Speaker 1: perhaps could have been to initially offer a giveaway to
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  Speaker 1: her fellow mums that are, you know, her followers that
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  Speaker 1: are watching. I mean, she said that she'll give a
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  Speaker 1: gift to one person, but maybe she could have tried
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  Speaker 1: to get more engagement by offering a giveaway to begin with. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think this just demonstrates the divide between genuine content
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  Speaker 1: creators and influencers who made it big when social media
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  Speaker 1: first started. So Sarah does list herself as a content
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  Speaker 1: creator in her bio. But for them to beg for
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  Speaker 1: engagement is quite embarrassing because you should be good enough
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  Speaker 1: at your job that you create something that resonates with
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  Speaker 1: people and that they want to actually engage with it.
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  Speaker 1: I understand it is getting more difficult on Instagram to
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  Speaker 1: get organic engagement, but I think a lot of influencers
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  Speaker 1: are just using that as an excuse at the moment
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  Speaker 1: because they got spoiled back in the day. They could
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  Speaker 1: literally upload anything and get a bunch of likes on it.
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  Speaker 1: There is now a lot of competition out there and
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  Speaker 1: the industry is oversaturated. So you've got to be on
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  Speaker 1: top of your game in order for your reel to
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  Speaker 1: actually resonate with people and get engagement on it. The
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  Speaker 1: whole thing just came across as really chewy. I do
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  Speaker 1: hate to use that.
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  Speaker 2: Word as a millennial, but.
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  Speaker 1: Even the music she put over The Real, it reminded
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  Speaker 1: me of the music that you put over a YouTube video.
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  Speaker 2: 10 years ago. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I just wonder how Big W would feel seeing
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  Speaker 1: her Instagram story begging for engagement because if I'm that
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  Speaker 1: PR manager or marketing manager, I'm instantly thinking they're only
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  Speaker 1: engaging for the present. They're not buying into the message
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  Speaker 1: that we're putting out there about Mother's Day. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: the thing is she didn't actually put it on her
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  Speaker 1: Instagram story. She put it on her Facebook page. I
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  Speaker 1: think she was trying to conceal it a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit from the brand. That is so deceptive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a terrible look, not only to her audience,
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  Speaker 1: but as you said, to the brand. And I do
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  Speaker 1: think it is pretty deceptive because it's not like the
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  Speaker 1: brand would have benefited from those people putting fake comments
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  Speaker 1: just so.
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  Speaker 2: They would get a gift. And it's clearly just to.
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  Speaker 1: Bolster her own numbers to report back to the brand.
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  Speaker 1: I also noticed that on the post, she used the
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  Speaker 1: word friends twice and she even capitalized it. And it
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  Speaker 1: seemed like another desperate tactic to guilt her followers into
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  Speaker 1: engaging with her content. Do you also think it's because
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  Speaker 1: she was trying to promote Big W's range of friends clothing?
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  Speaker 2: Potentially that as well.
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  Speaker 1: I did notice that Sarah disclosed the partnership, but rather
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  Speaker 1: than tagging Big W, she actually tagged a PR company
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  Speaker 1: called Sterling Comms. Again, it seemed a bit deceptive because
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  Speaker 1: While they may have set up the deal with her,
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  Speaker 1: the company that's being promoted is Big W.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so nervous. Why are you nervous? Talking about dating.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 3: I love talking about dating with you.
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  Speaker 4: I love talking about it as well.
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  Speaker 2: But not with a microphone. But I don't usually. Not
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  Speaker 2: with a camera.
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  Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson has hit out at claims she's a serial dater.
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  Speaker 1: The fashion label founder said she's had three boyfriends in
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  Speaker 1: her life with two relationships just so happening to quickly
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  Speaker 1: follow suit. Sammy opened up about her past relationships on
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  Speaker 1: Lily Brown's podcast as rumors swell of a new romance
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  Speaker 1: with a mystery man. Soph, what did you think about
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  Speaker 1: the interview? OG listeners will know that I am a
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  Speaker 1: huge fan of Sammy Robinson. I love her content. I
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  Speaker 1: think that she is a quality person and that became
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  Speaker 1: clear in this interview.
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  Speaker 2: She's very intelligent.
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  Speaker 1: She's very business savvy, but I just couldn't stand how
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: much Lily Brown interrupted her during this interview. Sammy would
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: start to open up about some interesting health struggles that
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  Speaker 1: she was facing, stuff that we've never heard before. And
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  Speaker 1: Lily would flat out just yell as she was speaking
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  Speaker 1: and then not follow up what she was talking about.
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  Speaker 1: In another instance, Lily was asking Sammy about her relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Jordan Simi and Lily interrupted the conversation to say
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  Speaker 1: that it looked like she had a dick in her pants.
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  Speaker 1: Like I just was just like, what is going on?
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  Speaker 1: I get that this whole thing's being filmed. Maybe you
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  Speaker 1: don't want your pants to be bunching up whilst you're
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  Speaker 1: filming this. And you think that this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be great on your socials, but it was so jarring
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  Speaker 1: to listen to. Yeah. I think there was a big
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  Speaker 1: focus on how it was going to become across being
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  Speaker 1: filmed because I think the first 10 minutes could have
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  Speaker 1: easily been edited out because it was Lily pouring Sammy
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  Speaker 1: beers and shots and it really didn't translate very well
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  Speaker 1: on an audio platform. I was really surprised to hear
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  Speaker 1: that Sammy and Lily are friends. I didn't realize they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't actually remember where they met, but they seem to
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  Speaker 1: catch up every time that Lily is in Sydney because
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  Speaker 1: Lily is based in Queensland. I think the friendship was
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  Speaker 1: helpful in some regards and then unhelpful in others because
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  Speaker 1: As you touched on, Sophie, Lily did interrupt Sammy a lot.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it was because she already knew the information.
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  Speaker 1: They discussed stuff off mic. So she didn't really have
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  Speaker 1: that thirst to follow things up. However, I think when
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: it came down to Sammy talking about her past relationships,
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  Speaker 1: it did help because they've obviously spoken about it before
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  Speaker 1: and she felt comfortable to share the juicy details about
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  Speaker 1: her past relationships. I loved hearing about Jordan Simi. OG
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: listeners will remember that Jordan made his professional boxing debut
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  Speaker 1: in a bid to win Sammy back. Let's go to
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  Speaker 1: some of what Sammy said about Jordan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to hit you with questions. Are you ready?
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: I'm ready.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Jordan.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Show. No. Okay.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: I actually.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: He's going to be. I know you're watching this, Jordan.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: He'll be frothing, won't he?
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: And you're going to love.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: He'll be frothing. Yeah, I have.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I feel like you always have love for him, but that.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Is not true.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have love for him. And honestly, like everything
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: that goes on in all of my relationships, I do
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: keep private because I don't air dirty laundry. I never
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: would and I never will. But he's a funny, great,
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: lovely guy, but we just weren't. We just didn't mesh
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: in the end. We're both very hot-headed, confident guys.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: You could really tell that Lily was biting her tongue
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and wanted to say more about Jordan Simi, but Sammy
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: had prefaced early on that she wasn't there to wade
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: into the weeds and expose what went down, and she
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: never wants to talk badly about any of her relationships.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: While Sammy was a complete class act on this podcast
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: regarding her relationships, she did preface that a lot had
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: already come out publicly. So I suppose her saying that
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: almost confirms that some of the stuff that came out
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: was true. Yeah. And this was in reference to the
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: French toast incident that listeners will remember. So Jordan caused
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: controversy in late 2022 when he shared a photo of
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: him getting very cozy in the back of a car
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: with a stunning French model who he referred to in
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: that post as French toast. They were on their way
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: to a Halloween party all dressed up. And at the
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: time he was still publicly dating Sammy Robinson. And it
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: made me so sad to hear Sammy admit during this
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: interview that she never has genuinely felt safe and secure
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: in a relationship with any of the guys that she's
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: been with. Even Nick, who she was with for a
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: very long time, because Nick was a regular fixture on
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: her YouTube channel.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Here's what she said.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: But I also think that you put up with a lot.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: You have as well in the past, especially with two
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: of your relationships that I'm thinking of, I think that
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: you've definitely put up with a fucking lot of shit.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Both publicly and not.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: And a lot of it has come out publicly as well.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: So it's not even, again, not airing any dirty laundry
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: and not talking on specifics. But I think that I
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: probably haven't felt– if I'm going to put it down
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: to like a feeling.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: And this is what I, you know, when you just
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: get stuck in TikTok and you're constantly scrolling through, like
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: what does real love mean?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: And it's so true.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: It's that I don't think I've ever felt like genuinely
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: safe with someone. Again, not going into specifics. It's like
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have been able to wholeheartedly marry any of
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: them based on like the way that things were going.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I was surprised to hear her say this because originally
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: she said that she had nothing but lovely things to
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: say about Nick. However, it does appear like this was
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: about him and also Jordan. She did speak very highly
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: about her most recent boyfriend. It sounds like they just
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: broke up because he was a bit too young for her.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: It's unclear when this interview was recorded because Sammy mentioned
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: during it that she was single. And just last week,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: she did soft launch a new man on TikTok. So
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: either things have changed quickly or this was pre-recorded from
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a while ago. Yeah, well, she did admit that it
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: often only takes her one date to fall for a
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: guy and dive into a relationship.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: So who knows? This is clearly moving quite quickly.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet The Bachelor producers are absolutely kicking themselves
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: because during this interview, she did say that if the
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: show hadn't been cancelled, she would be open to being
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette if approached. And I feel like this is
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: what they needed to keep The Bachelor alive.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, that would have been so good.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: The talent scouting on The Bachelor is the reason, well,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: part of the reason for.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Its demise, I feel.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Now, on the topic of Sammy's new man, rumours are
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: circulating that it could be American influencer turned singer Sammy Wilk.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: How funny if they're both called Sammy.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: That would be very confusing. He did make it big.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: On Vine in 2013 and currently has 1.7 million followers
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: on Instagram. And Sammy is one of those followers.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I did not know who he was.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: So I did a stalk and I was like, oh
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: my gosh, it must be him because he wears a
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: lot of friendship bracelets, like the one that was spotted
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: in the mukbang, the Mexican one. And at the time, Sophie,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: you remarked that he had an S and a W
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and you thought the S stood for Sammy and the
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: W stood for William or something. William? However, it could
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: stand for Sammy Wilk. The only issue is he is
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: in the US at the moment on a tour. So
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Sammy uploaded that TikTok about a week ago.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: And I mean, it could have been pre-recorded, but I'm
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: thinking it's kind of unlikely.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Well, especially because they do have Taco Bell all over America.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: So if he's American, it's not really your first impression
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: of Taco Bell either.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that might be a bit pedantic.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Sammy was giving her first impression of it. Maybe he
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: likes it, but I think that it's a little bit far-fetched.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Away from her love life. I was quite surprised to
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: hear in this interview just how sick Sammy has been
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: for the last year.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: She said it was down to extreme stress.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: From one mile and that her hair even began falling out.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Here's what she said.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: My adrenal fatigue and my high cortisol last year got
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: so bad. I had all these blood tests and everything
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: was shutting down. I'm most likely having autoimmune disease, something
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: with glandular fever. We're still figuring it all out, but
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: my kidneys were going down. I had the kidneys of
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: a 75-year-old.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: It just shows how much goes on behind the scenes
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: of these influencers' lives that we never know anything about
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: because Her life looks so glamorous on Instagram and TikTok.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And to think that this has all been going on
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: in the background.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she did reveal that she was on eight different
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: types of antibiotics, which caused her to get a leaky gut.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: So she is now trialing a gluten-free diet. Well, that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: quickly got ruined during this interview because Lily poured her
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: a beer. And then halfway through the interview, Sammy's like, oh, shit,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: this has got gluten in it. Well, Sammy also said
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: she's been suffering with crippling insomnia and has been prescribed
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: sleeping medication. So it sounds like she has had a
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: tough 12 months. Yeah. Well, it's not ideal, but it
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: is clear that the hard work is paying off for
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: her brand One Mile because she shared that the brand
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: has gone global into the US and the UK. And
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I found it interesting because she said they're not paying
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: for any promotion. They are gifting products. But I noticed
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: last week that she shared that Kendall Jenner was spotted
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: wearing One Mile. So I thought that was pretty impressive
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: that she has gifted her that item and she's actually
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: worn it. It's quite clear that this has grown into
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: more than just an influencer side business.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: One Mile is huge.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Sammy revealed that she is opening her first flagship store
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: in Bondi and she has signed a five-year long-term lease.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: We thought we would test out a new segment on
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the show called highs and lows.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Of the week.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: It seems to suit a Friday. So I will kick
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: off with mine. My low of the week has been
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: the logistics of legally changing my name. So I thought
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I was all done with that last year. I went
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: through the process to update my passport, my bank account,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and my driver's license with my married name. However, now
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: that I'm applying for maternity leave, I realized that there
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: were so many places that I haven't changed my name
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and I need to do it ASAP. So you would
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: think it would be really easy to update your name
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: on myGov. Considering all the services are connected on there,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I thought, okay, I'll just do it on one and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: it will translate across to all the others. However, each service,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you need to go through a different method. So I
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: had to ring up to update my Medicare card separately.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I then have to go down to services SA to
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: do it in person and And then.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: For the ATO, you could simply do it online. It
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: makes no sense.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: It is ironic that it's women having to run around
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: changing their names. I think that this process perhaps would
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: have been streamlined if men had to be changing their
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: last names or chose to change their last names, whatever
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the case may be.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, the mental load of it. I was having a
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: rant to Reese and he's like, I can come.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: To services essay with you. Now my high of the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: week is baking. I've been joking that I'm baking rather
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: than nesting. I just feel this urge to always be
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: making something nice to eat, probably because I'm so hungry.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So over the week I have made a focaccia. I've
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: also made bread and I've been so proud of it
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: because you know on TikTok when you see it and
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's never going to turn out, but I
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: have found this absolutely incredible recipe and I'll put it
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: in the show notes because it makes you look really impressive,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: but it's so easy. We keep joking that Kate is
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: slowly transforming into this trad wife. My low of the
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: week has to be my skin. This has given me
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: a moment to have a whinge. And I think a
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: lot of people can relate that when you feel like
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: you've got bad skin, you just don't feel as confident.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: You don't want to look people in the eyes.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: For the past two months, I've been suffering with terrible acne.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: It is slowly starting to get a little bit better,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: but that is my grizzle for the week.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I think it's getting better.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's always annoying when you don't ever want
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: to jinx it because you're like, oh, my skin's getting better,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: but I can't say it. Yeah. I think it has
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: a lot to do with my stress levels. My stress
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: levels have been through the roof. And when you reflect
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: on the year that we've had, I've moved house, I've
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: got married, we've had hundreds of events on, we've gone
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: through some awful stuff. So I am blaming my stress
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: levels and I need to de-stress. And that is my
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: high for the week because what is helping me de-stress
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: is my combustion heater. I have moved into a house
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: in the hills and my partner and my new favorite
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: activity is putting a fire on every night. And we
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: have been watching, maybe this is contentious, but we have
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: been watching Jeremy Clarkson's farm.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: What is that show?
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Because I heard dad talking about that like two years ago.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It's just relaxing.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: It's literally Jeremy Clarkson, who is a controversial journo. He
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: has bought a farm to get away from everything. And
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to do anything on this farm.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: He has this farmer, this 20 year old farmer guy
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: who basically is showing him the ropes and gets so
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: frustrated and angry at him is one of those shows
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: you can unwind to. If you're feeling stressed, I think
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: it's good to put on one of those mindless shows.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Is it good to watch with a partner?
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Because yes, that is the trickiest thing to find a
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Netflix show that everyone is going to enjoy.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I would recommend watching with your partner. I'm also watching
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: something to bond with my dad about because my dad
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: loves Jeremy Clarkson. Well, I think that's where we'll leave
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: things today. If you do want to hear more content
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: from us, we did drop a subscriber episode yesterday where
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: we touched on a bunch of influencer topics, including Mitch
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Orville saying that he was proud to be an anti-vaxxer,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Jade Tunchi's brutally honest relationship story, and Olivia Rogers becoming
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: a repeat wedding guest dress offender. This podcast was recorded
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: on the traditional land of the Kaurna people of the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Adelaide Plains.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: We pay respect to elders past and present.