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Cognitive Dominion: Media Override · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: My guest today is the host of Raised by Giants podcast.
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  Speaker 1: He's also a documentarian. His latest film, A Clockwork Shining,
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  Speaker 1: can be found on Amazon Prime. I've seen it. I
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  Speaker 1: recommend it. My guess is rider Lee. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show Man.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. Tim glad we can make
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  Speaker 2: it happen. And I'm excited to be here. I'm excited
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  Speaker 2: to talk about all the conspiracies. Do Yeah, let's go
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  Speaker 2: all over the place. Some seltra, some psychic stuff, some
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  Speaker 2: psychic spice stuff. Let's get it, bro I'm ready.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, let's get it. That's what I'm I try
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  Speaker 1: to talk about. I don't get to talk about it
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  Speaker 1: as as much as i'd like, you know, stuff pertained
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  Speaker 1: to the MKULTU and and all that. I'm really into
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  Speaker 1: the subject. And I'll just go back to your documentary
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  Speaker 1: for a second, because I really did like that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when you came on the first time, I wasn't just
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  Speaker 1: blowing smoke. I really liked the documentary it was. It
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  Speaker 1: was awesome. And occasionally, you know, I'll i'll hear or
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  Speaker 1: I'll see something that reminds me of stuff I've seen
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  Speaker 1: in your film, because you guys laid out so much
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  Speaker 1: pertinent info, but lately it's been like Diddy and these
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  Speaker 1: rappers this music thing, right, Like are these guys cia
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  Speaker 1: or what it's like.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's one of the things that we talk about
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  Speaker 2: within the documentary as well. And like you said, it's
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  Speaker 2: chucked full of it's not just Stanley Kubrick in the
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  Speaker 2: Shining and you know, a clockwork Orange becausen't even of
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  Speaker 2: the movie. It's called A Clockwork Shining Kubrick's Odyssey three.
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  Speaker 2: It's a quase sequel to Jay Whitener's first two movies,
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  Speaker 2: you know, examining Stanley Kubrick and the faking of the
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  Speaker 2: moon landing and everything that he was doing. So this
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  Speaker 2: is like a unofficial sequel, but also an official sequel
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  Speaker 2: like a trilogy that kind of you know, closed chapter
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  Speaker 2: on his h on his Cubic trilogy.
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  Speaker 1: So but you can watch it as a standalone film,
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  Speaker 1: but you can also go back, and I think that'd
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  Speaker 1: probably be the way to do it, is to start
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  Speaker 1: with the first two.
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  Speaker 3: Bro.
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  Speaker 2: Someone interviewed me after they had watched well they hadn't
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  Speaker 2: watched my movie yet, but I reached out to them
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, check out my movie on
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  Speaker 2: Amazon Prime. It's also on Tube Now, Apple TV Plus
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  Speaker 2: as well. But I reached out to them. I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: check out my movie and bring me on your show
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  Speaker 2: so we can talk about it and all that. And
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  Speaker 2: he had never even seen The Shining before. He never
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  Speaker 2: watched The Shining before, and I was like, oh my god, bro,
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  Speaker 2: you were retreat. So what he did is he went
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  Speaker 2: halfway through my movie, then he watched the half of
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  Speaker 2: The Shining, like Stanley Kubrick's The Shining, and then he
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  Speaker 2: finished my movie. Then he finished The Shining, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, Bro, that's a heck of a way to.
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  Speaker 1: Do it, dude. Yeah, is that the way?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, that's what he did. That's the way
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  Speaker 2: he did it. And he was like, Oh, all this
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  Speaker 2: stuff makes sense because he pretty much got everything all
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  Speaker 2: at once, you know, because there's so many theories and
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  Speaker 2: so many different ideas surrounding Stanley Kubricks of Shining. I
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  Speaker 2: think that we did an amazing job rapping all of
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  Speaker 2: that together and also presenting new theories as well. And
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  Speaker 2: that's really what I wanted to do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean it got me wanting
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  Speaker 1: to see the Shining again as well. I can see
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  Speaker 1: how that worked. Like he got halfway through your film,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I go, I gotta go watch
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  Speaker 1: the Shining revisit this. But you guys are feeling in.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are connecting dots in a major, major way.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I told you this last time, Like
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  Speaker 1: I not to rehash that conversation we had, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think I made mention of this. Once you get
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  Speaker 1: into your documentary some I don't know, maybe twenty minutes
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  Speaker 1: or something like that, that's when you start getting into
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  Speaker 1: this Laurel Canyon music thing. And that was like I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh man, I don't know, I just I
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  Speaker 1: really love that part because I'm super fast with that
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  Speaker 1: whole that whole scene really from from Jim Morrison to
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  Speaker 1: like Crosby Stills a Nash like Crosby was a rich kid,
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  Speaker 1: like a rich kid, you know. Jim Morrison's dad, of course,
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  Speaker 1: was to help kick off the Vietnam War. He was
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  Speaker 1: involved with the Gulf of Talking, and then all these
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  Speaker 1: other musicians, even Zappa, all the Laurel Canyon people, like
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  Speaker 1: Zappa was like a rich kid apparently, and Zappa was
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  Speaker 1: using like we can maybe get into this song of day.
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  Speaker 1: He had telltale signs of being a part of an
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  Speaker 1: MK ulture program because what he was doing was he
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  Speaker 1: had several locations where he would he he became like
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  Speaker 1: the party house. Right at some point he went and
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  Speaker 1: got a cabin and they called it like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: the party gabin or whatever. Everybody who was anybody was
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  Speaker 1: coming through there. He was dishing out LSD to them
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  Speaker 1: and he wasn't taking it. He was like a handler
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  Speaker 1: and like who else did that? Charles Man and did that? Yep,
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  Speaker 1: And it's almost like somebody taught them to do that. No, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's what you do is we'll give you a we'll
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  Speaker 1: give you this huge supply. You'll be the party man.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody will come to you, everybody will love you. You'll be
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  Speaker 1: in control of the situation. Just don't take it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like they told them the ropes.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, don't get high on your own supply. Jim Jones
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  Speaker 2: was also involved in with the CIA as well. Apparently
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  Speaker 2: the CIA was giving him drugs and and we know
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  Speaker 2: how the Jim Jones situation all shaked out. So a
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  Speaker 2: lot of these people are all involved. If they're not
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  Speaker 2: involved with a three letter organization. They're involved with some
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  Speaker 2: sort of military industrial complex, uh operation, We're sure a
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  Speaker 2: lot of these events like you can just pretty much
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  Speaker 2: put your money down and bet that it's some sort
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  Speaker 2: of op that they're running. And then when you look
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  Speaker 2: into like m. K Altar and stuff, you you see
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  Speaker 2: the operation Midnight Climax is also involved with a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the things that are happening right now. I mean
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  Speaker 2: the Diddy thing that was like apparently there was some
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  Speaker 2: footage that was involved with that. So you had the
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  Speaker 2: three main people that have went down over the past
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  Speaker 2: what eight years now. The first one was Jeffrey Epstein, right,
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  Speaker 2: and that was like the political side in the political angle.
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  Speaker 2: And then you had that producer, the Hollywood producer guy
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  Speaker 2: what was his name, Theerstein, Yes, Weinstein. You had Weinstein,
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  Speaker 2: which was like the Hollywood version of that. Then you
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  Speaker 2: had Diddy, which is the music industry. So you have
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  Speaker 2: all three of those people all sections of everything, right,
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  Speaker 2: like the three sections of the industries that are the
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  Speaker 2: most popular movies, music, plot, politics, right.
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  Speaker 1: And was the first one you mentioned that.
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  Speaker 2: Was well, Jeffrey Epstein. It might have been more first,
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  Speaker 2: but Epstein was charged in I think two thousand and
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  Speaker 2: seven or something like that, and then he got then
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  Speaker 2: he they when he went to presented. Then he was
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  Speaker 2: out every single day on doing whatever you want to do.
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  Speaker 2: He only had to be in president.
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  Speaker 1: Like night, right, right, right.
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  Speaker 2: But he was kind of the first person that we
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  Speaker 2: kind of heard about. And then Weinstein got hit with
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  Speaker 2: the Me Too movement, which was the Hollywood movie industry,
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  Speaker 2: and then Diddy which is the music industry. So it's
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  Speaker 2: just it's kind of sus to me that they're picking
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  Speaker 2: just one person out of each one of these industries
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  Speaker 2: when how many ditties do you think that there are.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of ditties out there. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure there's a lot of Epstein's out there. And when
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  Speaker 2: you look at like the MK Ultra Midnight Climax, Operation
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  Speaker 2: Midnight Climax, that was essentially what Jeffrey Epstein was doing
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  Speaker 2: before Jeffrey Epstein even was born or he was even
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  Speaker 2: doing what he was doing, right, and that climax was
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  Speaker 2: they would give drugs to political figures, high politicians, and
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  Speaker 2: then in a hotel room where the hotel room was
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  Speaker 2: completely bugged, they were filming the political figures through a
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  Speaker 2: two way mirror in the act with these prostitutes, so
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  Speaker 2: it doubled as like an information operation but also as
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  Speaker 2: like a blackmail operation.
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  Speaker 1: Because they're also.
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  Speaker 2: Filming them, so they're not only trying to extract information
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  Speaker 2: out of them to see, oh, well, what what are you?
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  Speaker 2: Are you going to tell top secret information or whatever
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  Speaker 2: kind of information to these prostitutes that you know that
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  Speaker 2: you do their prostitutes, who cares?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Whatever are you going to tell them? Are you going
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  Speaker 2: to give them any kind of information? And then also
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  Speaker 2: we're filming you, bro, We're also filming you and whatever
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  Speaker 2: you're doing with a two way through a two way mirror.
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  Speaker 2: And this was mostly due to Meyer Lanski was doing this.
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  Speaker 2: Myer Lansky was essentially the first Jeffrey Epps. And that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of just taking its own form and like modern
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  Speaker 2: day with like the Diddy stuff and like with the
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  Speaker 2: Epstein stuff, it's just a it's a rehashed version of
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  Speaker 2: what the CIA was already doing back in the sixties
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  Speaker 2: and seventies.
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  Speaker 1: My iret landscape is like a mobster, right, yes, who
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  Speaker 1: may have been a double agent or at least acted
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  Speaker 1: as one. I mean, that's the thing I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to go down this road because I like
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  Speaker 1: where we're headed. But like, if you do go back
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  Speaker 1: and look into the mob, you'll see that those guys
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  Speaker 1: were definitely working with government, A lot of them were,
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  Speaker 1: and CIA because the CIA, you know, well we know
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  Speaker 1: this now, but they have been a big part of
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  Speaker 1: what they do is get bringing drugs into the country.
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  Speaker 2: And that's another thing that's connected. I don't mean interrupt you,
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  Speaker 2: but that's another part that's connected to this whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: The exact same thing that you're talking about right now
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  Speaker 2: is the exact same thing that they did with the drugs. Right.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't beat them, you join them. There's nothing
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  Speaker 2: that they could do about the mob, so they became
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  Speaker 2: the mob. Okay. There was nothing that they could do
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  Speaker 2: about the cocaine coming in from Puerto Rico in the Florida,
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  Speaker 2: So what do they do. They become drug traffickers.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, the Tom Cruise movie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they could not stop it, so therefore they just
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  Speaker 2: started doing it.
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  Speaker 1: M what's that Tom Cruise movie where he's the drug
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  Speaker 1: runner I know you're talking about, and he was in
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  Speaker 1: Arkansas doing that he had and the guy it's based
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  Speaker 1: on a dude in real life who was really doing
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  Speaker 1: that out of Arkansas with ties to Bill Clinton who
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  Speaker 1: was governor at the time. Yeah, this is all a
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  Speaker 1: big old mangled web man. And I think that somebody
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  Speaker 1: going back to like this whole how you laid it
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  Speaker 1: out two way mirror filming prostitutes all that somebody or
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  Speaker 1: somebody's somewhere has a big old library of this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They've got files going back who knows how far on
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  Speaker 1: people in power. It might even go back fifty years.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like who whoever that person is, or whoever
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  Speaker 1: that person is involved with and working for, is who
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  Speaker 1: is almost like the ultimate puppet master here? And like, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of wonder, like with recent stuff that's happening
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  Speaker 1: right now, I wonder, who's you know, this whole Epstein
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  Speaker 1: business this? Are we going to release it? Are we
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  Speaker 1: not going to release it? It's gotten the waters have
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  Speaker 1: gotten murky. Just makes me wonder how big is that library?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, not only that dude, It's like, okay, if
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  Speaker 2: you're if you're this is the way that it would
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  Speaker 2: go in my mind. Okay, you would do all this
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  Speaker 2: stuff official officially, right, You would experiment with all this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Just like we know about all the mk Ultra programs,
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  Speaker 2: we know that those all went down, there's several other
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  Speaker 2: subprojects with all the documentation got burned. So there was
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  Speaker 2: probably over around three hundred subprojects, but around half of
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  Speaker 2: them got destroyed, so we don't even know what those
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  Speaker 2: other ones actually were. We only know about the one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and forty nine that we actually have access to it.
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  Speaker 2: But what you would do is you would do it
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  Speaker 2: in an official capacity and you would run it as
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  Speaker 2: an experiment, and whichever ones were successful, you would then
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  Speaker 2: lease those experiments to private companies, private contractors, private government organizations. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: just like what they did with a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: mk ultra stuff. They would they leased a lot of
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  Speaker 2: it to Canada, so they give it to private corporations
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  Speaker 2: to where they wouldn't have to they would not be
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  Speaker 2: subjected to any kind of FOIA request, they would not
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  Speaker 2: have to come out and say exactly what they're doing
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  Speaker 2: because it's a government contractor they are not. They don't
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  Speaker 2: abide by the same laws that the government abides by.
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  Speaker 2: So you would do these experiments, these types of operations.
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  Speaker 2: You would figure out what works, what doesn't work. And
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  Speaker 2: then you would hand that information over to a private
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  Speaker 2: government contractor. Okay, then the private government contractor can do
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  Speaker 2: whatever they want with that information. Then they can run
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  Speaker 2: their own experiments, but they wouldn't be experiments then because
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  Speaker 2: experiments had already been done. They would just be able
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  Speaker 2: to full fledge, full scale do it. Okay, So the people,
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  Speaker 2: So then that's whenever you get in contact with Jeffrey
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  Speaker 2: Epstein like figure, that's whenever you get in contact with
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  Speaker 2: a Diddy like figure. So they're not directly connected to
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  Speaker 2: those people. There's several middlemen in between those people and
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  Speaker 2: the actual government, or the actual through that organization, or
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  Speaker 2: the actual military. Okay, so it's military funded through a
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  Speaker 2: private corporation that is doing this stuff a government contractor.
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  Speaker 2: So that the government's hands are clean, right, they're clean
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  Speaker 2: because they have no paper trail. They're just giving money
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  Speaker 2: to this private government contractor that is not lawfully they
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  Speaker 2: don't have to disclose any information off to the side.
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  Speaker 2: It's exactly like, that's the way that it's done, and
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  Speaker 2: that's the way that they that they don't have to
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  Speaker 2: come out and say, oh, this is what's going on,
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  Speaker 2: even though we know exactly what's going on. That's the
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  Speaker 2: reason that they can say that there is no Jeffrey
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  Speaker 2: Epstein files, because according to them, there is not, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: because it's been they don't have because somebody else has
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  Speaker 2: all the information. Right, someone else, a private government contractor,
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  Speaker 2: has all the stuff. They don't actually have it, though
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  Speaker 2: they might be aware of it. I'm sure that they're
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  Speaker 2: aware of it and they know that it exists. But
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  Speaker 2: the reason and the way that they're able to say
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  Speaker 2: that they don't is because they it's been sub leased
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  Speaker 2: out to somebody else, a private government contractor. Right. That's
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  Speaker 2: the way that they've done it. Because they got in
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  Speaker 2: trouble with the MK ultra stuff hardcore, right in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighty five. The hammer came down hard on the CIA. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so then they were like, okay, well, we can't be
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  Speaker 2: doing this, and in an official capacity.
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  Speaker 1: We have to They got steaky about it.
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  Speaker 2: We have to fund this out to private corporations or
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  Speaker 2: government contractors for them to do it, so then we
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  Speaker 2: won't have any responsibility for any of the other things
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  Speaker 2: that's going on. Right, it's been done.
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  Speaker 1: I could see that a long time. I guess in
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  Speaker 1: like from what when I first started to show. I
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  Speaker 1: got really into the UFO topic, and that's what seems
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  Speaker 1: to be happening behind this behind the curtain with that,
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  Speaker 1: or let's just say advanced technology that maybe our government has,
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  Speaker 1: they seem to be that seems to have been handed
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  Speaker 1: off to the private companies.
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  Speaker 2: So they don't have to take the fall for anything
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  Speaker 2: they did. They right close their eyes and plausible deniability
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  Speaker 2: plans they.
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  Speaker 1: Don't have to tell they don't have to tell the
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  Speaker 1: public about it legally and all that stuff. So there's
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, like the eighties though, like what you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: I want to dig on that for a second. Like
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  Speaker 1: in the eighties they got yeah, they were you know,
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  Speaker 1: they were learning from their their past mistakes. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, this came to mind, you know, a song
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  Speaker 1: of beIN lauder ci agent in the eighties. His real
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  Speaker 1: name was Tim Osmon. And I think that once you
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  Speaker 1: start looking at some of these events that started happing,
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  Speaker 1: like Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City, Waco, Waco nine to eleven,
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  Speaker 1: they seem to be after they got sneaky with with
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  Speaker 1: with things, and I would I would say that, in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, a lot of those events mentioned there are
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  Speaker 1: sy ops perpetrated by people with connections to inner agencies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't come right out and do this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: They have to find a backdoor, a back channel someone
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  Speaker 2: two or three middlemen to It's like having a show
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  Speaker 2: corporation is what it is. It's like a money laundering system.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, but for information and as like, if you
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  Speaker 2: the entire thing behind twenty different corporate then nobody's going
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  Speaker 2: to be able to figure out where anything comes from.
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  Speaker 2: And that was the issue with a lot of these
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  Speaker 2: teen behavioral health facilities that were essentially like mk ultra
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  Speaker 2: programming for like kids, like kids that have behavioral problems,
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  Speaker 2: their parents would just send them to these teen camps
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  Speaker 2: or these teen institutions or whatever, and they were essentially programmed.
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  Speaker 2: They were mind controlled to do stuff. And like somebody
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  Speaker 2: was like trying to sit down and figure out where
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  Speaker 2: all this money, how this was all being funded. But
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  Speaker 2: they couldn't figure it out because there were so many
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  Speaker 2: different tentacles that branched off, and there so many different
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  Speaker 2: corporations and so many different people that you couldn't pin
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  Speaker 2: down exactly where any of the stuff we're coming from.
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  Speaker 1: Ravens Craig, Right, do you know even Ravens Craig, that
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  Speaker 1: dude doctor Donald you and I don't remember his last name,
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  Speaker 1: You and Cameron was getting He was doing exactly what
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  Speaker 1: writers breaking down here. He had this this big, like
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: gothic looking house up on a hill in Montreal, and
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: he was being funded by the CIA. But that's kind
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: of all they knew. Seems like it's like, well, why
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: was the cl I don't know, you know, it's I
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: think it got murky at that point, right, like it
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: was it was he was funded by the CIA, but
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: everything was kept very quiet. Is that I mean? Is
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: that what you're saying here, like sort of stuff like that.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So they'll they'll just uh, they'll be able to
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: cloud the fund being behind an individual or a person
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: or another corporation. So the government will give money to
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: one corporation, that corporation will give that money to another corporation.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: That corporation will give the money to a loan investor.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: That loan investor will give that money to another loan investor,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: and then finally it gets to the actual project that
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: it is intended for, right, Because then you get it's
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: harder to trace the money exactly where it came from
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: because it's gone through so many different corporations in private
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: investors' hands. Yeah, that it would take a freaking decade
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: to sit down and actually figure out where all this
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: stuff comes from. It's almost it's a it's a money
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: laundering system so that it can be untraceable essentially. Right,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: So you you create all all these different corporations and
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: all these different private equity groups and all that stuff,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: and then you just funnel the money through all of those. Meanwhile,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: you probably own all of those. It's like the the
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: like the donation stuff, right, Like whenever these big billionaires
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: or even millionaires or big celebrities or whatever donate to
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: have you know, a big corporation or whatever, right, they'll
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: be like they'll they'll bring out the big check. You know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: they'll be like one five million dollars and I'm giving
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: to freaking kids in Africa that are starving, right philanthropy, yeah,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: or the underprivileged children or whatever. Meanwhile, they actually own
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: or they set on the board of that corporation that
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: they're donating that money too, So then it's just being
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: recycled money and going directly back into their pocket.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that that's how some of these early
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: riots were funded to Like if you go back to
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the Black Panther days, the White Panther, there was a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: couple of watchmen with no weathermen like those. If you
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: look at some of the kids that were this was
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: all kind of being back channeled by the CIA. If
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: you look into those kids who were like in the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: pictures leading the mob through the city, their dads were
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: these wealthy, wealthy businessmen who sat on the board of
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: all these other companies, and they didn't know. I don't
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: think anybody knew this at the time. They didn't know like, oh,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: this is rich kids aiding the charge with dad's funneling
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: money into it through all these different it's compartmentalization too,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: like yeah, man.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you got the whole jigg Or Hoover
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: situation with the mob as well. I mean you Hoober
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: was famous for, you know, downplaying all of the mob
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: activity and stuff. Anytime he was ever asked a question
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: about the mob, you'd be like, Ah, there's no mob,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: what are you talking about. Don't worry about the mob. Meanwhile,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: everybody knows that there's a gigantic organized crime syndicate that's
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: happening in the United States everybody that owned a business
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: was probably unless you were in like a very rural area.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: But sometimes even if you were in a rural area,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you'd probably get a visit from the mob if you
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: had a business in the fifties, forties, fifties and sixties,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Yeah, everybody, It's like they
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: want you to not believe what you're seeing. Right, people
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: would see the crime and the gang activity in the
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: mob activity. But then the official statement from the FBI
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: was that there really is no organized crime going on,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: which is exactly the same thing that's happening right now
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: with this Jeffrey Epstein stuff. And it's the same thing
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: that happened with the JFK stuff. It's history repeating itself.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: We see things that don't make sense. We see things
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: with our eyes that we know that's happening. I mean,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: how many Jeffrey Epstein whistleblowers has there been. There's been
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: at least twenty or thirty girls that have come forward
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and said that they have been trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I mean ten of those, at least ten were at
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the Jesselene Maxwell trial. Okay, so, and then they are
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: including Virginia Jeffrey, which just apparently died by suicide. But
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: they kind of had to get her out of the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: way for this whole Jeffrey Epstein thing that happened because
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: she was the one that was leading the charge on
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: all this. She was actually funding a lot of other
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: people's court fees and lawyer fees to sue Giselene Maxwell
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: and bring these cases to light. Okay, so they.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Kind of had to Did they kill her? Do you
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: think I think.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Her husband one killed her? Her husband killed her. There's
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: but her body's already been cremated. It's not gonna be
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: anything you're gonna be able to do about it. But
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: her husband was in abusive toward her. He beat her
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: earlier in the year, and she made that Instagram post
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: that she only had a few days to live because
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: she knew that whenever she went back to her house
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: that her husband was probably going to kill her, and
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: she even made statements to.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Her brother and her.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Brother's wife that if she gets into another altercation with him,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: then she's not going to live. That was a verbal
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: statement that was made to her brother and his wife.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: So again, two weeks after she's let out of the
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: hospital from the bus accident where her husband actually beat her,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: and then she went into the hot spittal saying that
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: it was a bus accident instead of him beating her.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can look at the photo and see
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: that she looks like she's just been repeatedly beat in
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the side of the face and how down and strangled
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: and constantly hit on the left side of her face
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: with a fist, and clearly see it him in her
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: eyes completely black and the exact same wounds that she had.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: She reported to the police that she had earlier in
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the year from her husband beating her, But then her
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: husband turned around and filed a restraining order against her
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: so that he could have both deniability so whenever something,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: if something happens in the future, no one would ever
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: look at him, right, and so that he had custody
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: of the kids, so that she could never come out
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and say, oh, well, he beats me, right. That's why
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: she went to the hospital saying that she only had
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: three to four days to live and she couldn't say
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that it was her husband that beat her because no
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: one would believe her because he's the one that had
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the restraining order. It's a very deep rabbit hole. I
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: give you the cliff notes. I've done like nine on it.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I have a whole playlist on my YouTube channel talking
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: about it. It's called Virginia Jeffray Mendela Effect. But they
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: kind of had to get her out of the way
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: so that they could come out and say that there
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: is no Jeffrey Epstein files. Right, there's no files, there's
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: no client list, it's all. There's nothing to see here.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: He killed himself, you know, nothing going on, exactly like
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: what Jajegger Hoover did with the mob, and then eventually
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: it came out that the mob was real. You know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: it's just just with the JFK assassination, the exact same thing.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: There's no conspiracy here, there's a magic bullet. Shut up,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: quit talking about it. We're gonna call anybody that questions
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: the official narrative a conspiracy theorist. And then it's been
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: what almost over fifty years before we've seen anything of
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the JFK files. It's gonna be the exact same situation
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: with this. People are going to be talking about Jeffrey
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Epstein for another fifty freaking years. Then in fifty years,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: no one is going to They're no longer going to
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: care about Jeffrey Epstein. There's not going to be a
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: big uproar like there was because a lot of the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: people that were going to be involved with Jeffrey Epstein
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: are going to be dead. No one's going to care anymore. Yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: or it's going to be that time has passed in
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: between the event happening and then them coming out and saying, oh,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: how well, these the client lists just magically landed on
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: my table.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: We got it now.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: But as fifty years later, when no one gives a
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: shit anymore and everyone's dead that was involved. See, that's
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: the name of the game too. That's that's what I mean.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: The COVID files can't be released until I think they said,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: like uh, twenty eighty or something like that, or twenty
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: fifty or something like that's what forty years after the
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: freaking actual event. Yeah, so time, no one is going
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: to care anymore. The whole the event is over, no
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: one cares about it anymore. It's done. The people that
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: were involved are dead.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: They yeah, yeah, I'm with you, man. There's they did
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the same thing with Operation high Jump. You know, part
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: of that is still classified, and uh, there's I was
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: looking into like you know, Nazis and all that. And
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I found there's still files on Himmler and some of
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the stuff Himler was that was he was doing it.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Those aren't going to be released until like twenty forty.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: That's how they do with this stuff. I mean, it's like,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you know, there's something there that they don't want us
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: to know. Otherwise, why well I hold it, I sit
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: on it for one hundred years.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to tell you what's going on with
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: the Antarctica right now. Well, the whole Antarctica thing. I
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: have a Reader's Digest straight here. I've talked about this
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: a few times on my show, and there's a page
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: in here that talks about what was going on it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: There's a whole.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Chapter on Operation high Jump. Readers Digest on Antarctica. Found
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: it at a thirst store and I was just scanning
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: through it and then I seen an Operation high Jump
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: and I immediately got it because I was like, oh, well,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: this Readers Digested talking about Operation high Jump. I definitely
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: got to get this, you know. And there's a paragraph
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: in there, it's at the very end of the chapter
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: that says that there is a oasis in the center
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: of Antarctica where there's lush greenery, there's forest, there's grass,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: there's trees, there's a giant lake in the center, and
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: it's like, I forget how many square miles it was,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: but something huge. And that's what Admiral Bird discovered. That's
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: what they found out. And I'm pretty sure that's what
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: they were trying to keep secret where they Antarctica until
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: they studied it further, because how it's like.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: A pocket where the cold doesn't affect this certain little area.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I've seen that in old articles too. There was an old,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: old article that I saw from you know, back into
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds. These explorers were trekking through Alaska and they
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: walked into some pocket of warm climate where there was like,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's green and there's animals, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you know, seems like it's just an anomaly that happens here.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Yep. And that's what they were trying to keep secret.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Convinced it's not and that's not as crazy as what
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: a lot of people want it to be. Yeah, they
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: wanted to be UFOs and aliens and stuff like that,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: but that's the cover story.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Well, if you look at it, there's.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: In Nazis that's underneath the ice down there, So don't
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: go near there, okay, don't you don't want to encounter
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the Nazi UFOs. Don't even don't even fly over. And
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: that's another reason for the restrictive flying zone, right, they
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: don't want people flying over it and seeing it. That
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: there's this luscious freaking forest in the center of Antarctica.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something down there, and like I think it
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: was was doctor Ferrell, Joseph Ferrell, who looked at his
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: fly loogs or something and he went down there and
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: he did. A bird gets to one certain area and
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: he starts flying around it. It's like he circled around
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: this one area down there for three times or whatever
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: before he decided to come back. So he saw something
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: because he did he circled around three times. So there,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know some people have said that there's
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: a there's a giant hole there that goes into the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: inner Earth, and like maybe the Earth is hollow and
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: has some sort of a cylinder, a hollow cylinder inside
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the Earth.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I know, he gets kind of crazy, but I like
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the idea. I'm going to run with it, the one
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: that you're presenting here with this lush grin. I do
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: think though, I do think that the Nazis found found
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: something or did something down there, because it was Hess,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Rudolph Hess and Herman Goren who funded that Antarctic commission,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: and it just seemed like those two when you look
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: at those two, it's like with Goring, especially like he was,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: he was like a military guy, kind of a practical guy.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: He would have saw some use for going down there
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and establishing a base. I'm not with the whole Nazi
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: UFO thing really, so I don't think that's necessarily involved.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: But I do think the Nazis went down there anyway
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: something and you know, found something and maybe set up
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: something down there. But well, I know they did. Was
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the question is how long did they did they stay right?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: But what else is going on there with this, with
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: this with the Bird thing, because like you know, you've
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: got the article when Bird is coming back from high jump.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: He stops in Chili and he talks to a Chilean
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: reporter and he says, the US has to be prepared
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: for any enemy fighters that can fly from pole to poles.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Like what was he talking about? Did the Nazis beat
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: him down there?
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Or what?
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your thoughts on that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: You know what's really interesting. I tried to look for
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: that article online. I cannot find it.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: It's in one of Joseph Feroll's books.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: It's in one of Joseph Ferrell's books, and it's in
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: one of Walter Bosley's books as well, but I cannot
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: It's not find a ball online. I've tried talking to
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: child GBT about it to send me a link to
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: where I can find the article of them saying that nothing.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I've googled it. I've asked Grock to send me a
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: link to the article for where I can find it. Nothing.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: It does not exist online anyway.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe it got scrubbed, it could have.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: But see, the whole thing is is that, you know,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: governments love of conspiracies, right, because conspiracies give them the
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: ability to shroud things in confusion and make people stay
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: away from stuff that they're doing.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: It's like Area fifty one, It's like Kurkling Air Force Base.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: You know, you would much rather than believe that it's
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: aliens extraterrestrials than top secret weapons technology, Like that's just
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: a given. And they love those conspiracies because it gives
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: them the ability to continue doing whatever it is that
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: they're actually doing while everyone's chasing aliens and extraterrestrials. They
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: can continue working on their supersonic weapons. There, they're amazing
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: droom technology, they're infrared scans there.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Ability right in anti gravity by now.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anti gravity craft, they can They can do all
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: of that without the public ever knowing, because the public
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: is all on it's extraterrestrial, it's aliens. There's no other
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: better cover story. Ever, that's the best cover story that
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: you could possibly have. Yeah, because one, it makes people think, oh, well,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: there's nothing we can do about aliens. There's nothing we
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: can do about extraterrestrials. There's so much further advance than us,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: you know. But there is something that we can do
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: about humans. There is something we can do about human
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: made technology. There is something we can do about the military.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: But they're never going to tell us that. I mean,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: they have told us that, but people don't listen because
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: they're all jumped on the extraterrestrial alien bandwagon.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: So and that's nineteen.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: They've been trying to tell us this from the very beginning.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: From the very beginning, they've always said, there's no reason
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: to believe that this is extraterrestrial or alien. Okay, well,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: if it's not extraterrestrial or alien, that only leaves one
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: other option, that it's humans. That it's human made military technology.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: It's Droman technology. I mean, that's the whole thing with
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Paul Benowitz. That's what Paul Benowitz was getting in nineteen
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: seventy nine to nineteen eighty two and eighty three, and
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: they're on Forward Air Force Base, was testing pop secret
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: drone technology that would come out of the back of
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: the airplane, out of the military airplane, and then fly
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: around the military airplane and erratic movements. Sure, he was
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: filming this on his camera and he was like, those
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: are UFOs.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Anything move like this? It's aliens. And they let him
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: continue to believe that it was aliens. He even brought
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: it to the attention of the actual air Force and
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm getting all this strange, weird footage out
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: of here. I believe that it's aliens. I believe that.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: And they didn't correct him, because if they would have
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: corrected him, then he could have said, oh, the military
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: is doing some crazy shit all year. They got some
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: advanced stuff going on out here. I don't know, I'm
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: with you what the military is doing, I'm with you.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I do think that that that they do use this,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: this whole thing that I I mean, when I looked
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: into it, what I gathered was that, yeah, kind of
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: got rolled out in nineteen forty seven, right around the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: time of Kenneth Arnold and Roswell, and then it then
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: it's perpetuated through movies like Close Encounters of the Fifth kind. Okay,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: this is what they look like. And uh, I mean,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, I leave room for Roswell being a
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: foreign government flew into our airspace and got shot down,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: But it is some crazy technology that's mind blowing or
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: for the time, it was something that wasn't seen or
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: wasn't really known about. And I do think that it's
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: possible that the Nazis were involved with that. I'm not
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: talking about not Hanibou and Nazis on the Moon, I'm
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: not talking about that. I'm talking about like guys who
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: were able to go down to Juan Paran in Argentina
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: and get coverage under him, get like housing under him,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: get funding under him, and continued their black projects. And
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I do think that they figured out anti gravity officially.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I think they were working on it already, and in
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Nazi Germany, I just don't think they figured it out.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Nazis ever made UFOs under the
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Third Reich. I think when it got to Argentina they
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: may have figured some stuff out. Then maybe nineteen forty
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: seven Roswell, maybe you see something like that in our
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: airspace getting shot down. That's kind of where I'm.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: At well too. And then when you look at the
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Washington blop event with the rose over the White House
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: as well, that kind of seems like a warning shot, right, Like, okay.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: And that was fifty that was Dearon Eisenhower. I think
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: fifty two, right.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, And that to me seems like a warning shot
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: because it there was a shootdown order for them. So
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: if you thought that they were real aliens and they
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: were real extra treshrils, you're not going to try and
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: start a freaking intergalactic, interplanetary extra mentional war with these
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: alien invaders, right. So that means that Bard thought that
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: they were at least man made craft, or he would
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: never have given the shootdown order, right, he would never
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: have done that. We just got out of one of
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: the biggest bloodiest wars. Ever in history in World War Two,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: like seventeen four, right, So that seems like a warning thing, right,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: and you might be on something there with the Nazis
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: creating some kind of craft, and it seems like that
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: maybe they did figure it out a couple of years
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: later and then they were just you know, kind of
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: flying by the old White House to be like, okay,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: here here's what we got. Yeah.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, July twelveth, nineteen fifty two, you got the DCUF
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: flyer incident what later became known as the Washington Flat
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: or the Washington National Airport sidings or the invasion of Washington.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Kind of like that one, Uh makes it some more sexy.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but this when you look into this event,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: something happened, Something definitely happened. But yeah, continue what you're saying.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just wanted to make sure I had
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: that date right. And I think this was Eisenhower. Was
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: it Ford?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Pretty sure it was Ford? Okay, could be wrong.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Eisenhower was in in fifty four, I remember that from
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: my research. But anyways, I'm.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Pretty sure it was Ford. If you scrolled further on
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: that Wikipedia article, it'll tell you who was president.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: White House concern had Terry Truman.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Sorry, that's right, that's right.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: We were both wrong.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not perfect.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: No, we got the dates right.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: We're not perfect.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Broa, we weren't alive, but we got the dates right.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: But ba ba, let's see raised out. You know, all
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the radar stuff they had, the stuff was mysterious. Blips
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: were showing up on radar. The CIA would react to
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the nineteen fifty two UFO wave reports by forming a
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: special study group within the Office of Scientific Intelligence, the OSI,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: and the OCI to review the situation. Edward Toss reported
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: for the group that most UFO signings could be easily explained.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: The CIA, concerned with the issue would lead to the
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: creation in nineteen fifty three of the Robbinship Panel. So
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you see, you start to see the CIA getting involved
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: in I think Bluebook was was definitely have during this
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: time too, because Bluebook reported like a record number of
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: signings during this nineteen fifty two flat or invasion.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: And that's it was almost like an eggregor right, when
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: someone sees something and they reported, all of a sudden,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: everybody else is like also seeing it and reporting it,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: just like with Missing Time with Bud Hopkins. Just like
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: great aliens with Whitley Streeber. There's another one, Missing Time,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and Well that came from Bud Hopkins's book with the
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: same name, Missing Time, where he relates alien abductions to
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: people not remembering missing you know, missing hours of their life,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: cannot being able to remember it. Screen Memories also came
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: from Bud Hopkins. So really, what's going on here is
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: that people didn't talk about any of this stuff until
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: like it was pushed in like a book, right, Like
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Whitley Strieber basically popularized the idea of like gray alien,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: which also came from his previous fiction works. He was
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: a fiction writer before he was a nonfiction writer, and
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of the entities that he described in his
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: fiction work years prior are almost identical to the ones
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: that he says that are nonfiction. So it's this agregorical
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: type of reality. And then people resonate with communions, but
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: it'll probably go down as one of the biggest UFO
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: books to ever be written, and people resonate with that
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: really hard, and then they start seeing alien element then
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: they think that they've been abducted. If you go to
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: a regression an alien UFO abductee, regressionist and you think
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: that you've been abducted by aliens, and you pay them
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: three hundred dollars to do this regression, Guess what they're
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: going to find. They're going to find aliens. Bro every time,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: hands down, they're going to find aliens because you just
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: paid them to find aliens for you. When regression was
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: never meant to be UFO an abductee regression therapy. Regression
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: was a therapeutic way to help people through addiction, help
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: people through certain traumatic events in their life to heal themselves.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: And that is pretty much the way that everybody remembers
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: their abduction experience. Travis Walden regressed. That's how he remembers
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: being a abducted. Bettie and Barney Hill regressed. That's how
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: he remembers being abducted. Wiley Strieber regressed. That's how he
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: remembers being abducted.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Benny and Barney Hill. Partially, they did. They did the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: adduction store comes out of the regression, but before the aggression,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: they did say that they saw a lie in the sky.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I just want to throw that.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: In there, right, But they also said that it was
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: the military before their regression, so that the military people
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: in military suits military hats. I mean, even the aliens
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: that they describe of the drawings are as wearing like
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: a military uniform.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Funny enough, it sounded like a Nazi uniform too the
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: way they describe it.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly so, and then they get regressed and then
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's aliens. That's the constant streamline
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: through all of these abduction cases is that they're regressed.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: And when you regressed, you can be programmed with things
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: that aren't that never even happened. You're in a very
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: suggestible you are relaxed. You can be persuaded to believe
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: things that happened that didn't really happen, and then vice versa,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: you can be programmed to not remember things that did happen.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: It's a very suggestible state that you're in. So they
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: can literally create and the government will studying this, government
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: will studying this hypnosis stuff. There was two to three
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: mk Ultra subprojects that was dedicated to the use of
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: figuring out an experimentation on hypnosis, psychic abilities, and like
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: out of body experiences. They knew what they were doing, okay,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: so then you give that information to private contractors. The
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: private contractors take that information then they create their business
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: around it. Then you get regression therapy, then you get hypnotists,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: right mm hmm. Then they can put things into your
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: mind that would not even be there. I mean, the
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Air Force was using hypnosis on their actual they're they're
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: not their agents, but they're Air Force recruits. And the
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: people at the end of there that would work on
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: top secret information. I mean Walter Bosley's dad. That happened
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: to Walter Bosley's dad. They hypnotized him at the end
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: of his career in the military because he had access
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: to top secret information and they didn't want him to
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: remember it. Mhm.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: So they think think it was the Air Force that
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: came in and regressed Betty and Barney Hill too, And.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: What would you rather have it believe? Would you? Would
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: you rather have the public know that it was the
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: military that abducted these people or that as aliens.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty much on board with what you're saying. I
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: don't know that. So I don't know about Willy Streeber.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I've not really ever done a
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: deep dive on him. Now. I've read plenty of his
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: his excerpts from his books and stuff like that, and
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: like I do think though, and that's just what I
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: was gonna ask you next there. I do think, yes,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: some of this is a military cover up of just bigger,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: bigger ideas, you know, mainly dealing with technology and stuff
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: they don't want the public to know that they have
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: their hands on. I do think that the UFO thing
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: as it pertains to flying objects and green men and
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: aliens helps them. Creates got a smoke screen for them.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: But I also think that there is a real phenomenon
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: here as well. How much bunch of the stuff we
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: see can be attributed to that real phenomenon, I don't know.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to speak to that, but I do
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: think it's possible that there is something else other than
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: us living in existing in the universe. What do you
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: think about that.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I would agree with that to a certain extent. I
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: don't believe that there's any physical entities. I think it's
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: impossible for them to be physical entities that are coming
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: here now. If other physical beings do live somewhere else
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: in the universe, they're not coming here physically, can't do it.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: It's impossible now. What they could do if they were
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: advanced enough, is that they could by and locate their
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: consciousness to Earth. But that doesn't mean that they're physical.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: They're they're by I mean, and this is a very
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: people will be like, oh my god, you just went
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: super wu there. Well, there's a remote viewing technique that's
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: called perfect site integration where it's essentially that exact same thing.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: It's like a very advanced form of remote viewing that
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: you can literally bilocate your body to a different.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Part of wherever that you're wherever you want to go,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: and you can interact with the environment, you can move things,
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: very very advanced form of remote viewing because remote viewing
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: takes on different not ideas, but different abilities. The further
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: you get into it, you can do many things with
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: remote viewing, right, It's not just a standard thing of
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: collecting intelligence data. There's many different ways that remote viewing
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: can be used, and that's one of them is essentially
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: by located. So if other entities exist in the universe
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: and they are physical and they live on an earthlike
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: planet like ours, they are bilocating into this reality. It's
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: sort of like the skinwalker. If you think of like
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: a skinwalker, A lot of the skinwalkers are supposedly like
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: entities from a very advanced form of meditation. So the
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: rumor in the theory around skinwalkers is that Native Americans
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: will put on the height or whatever it is of
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: the entity that they want to transform into. They get
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: into a very deep state of meditation, and then they
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: take on that form outside of their body, in an
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: entity that they have essentially bilocated into, and then they
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: can roam around and do whatever it is they want
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: to do.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of like an avatar.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like for an avatar. Yeah, that's what from
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: my understanding, what a skin walker actually is.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: So there's like a spiritual component to this where spirits
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: can kind of travel or by look at I get
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: what you're saying, because I do think that there is
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: something to the whole remote viewing thing, and I think
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: it's it's not unlike people who have these near or
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: out of body experiences, like something bad happens to them,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: they get in a car accident and all of a sudden,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: they're in the air above their body watching the doctors
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: work on them. When they come back into their body,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: this happened. This is one of the accounts I read
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: about the lady survived, she comes back into her body
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: and she tells them like, oh, there's a there's a
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: sticker on top of the ceiling fan. It's red and
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: it's got I don't know, numbers or some words on it.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: And she described the sticker, and they got a ladder
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: out and they went up there and looked. Then sure
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: enough she had gone out of her body and looked
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: down over herself, and she described some of the surroundings
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: that she couldn't have known about, right, I do, so
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I think that that's I think that fits into this somehow.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: It's like we do have this ability. Some people are
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: just able to do it and they don't need a
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: car accident to facilitate it. That's how I see it.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a way to do it. It involves breath
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: work and very deep meditation. And I think that the
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: astral travel thing is different than like by location. By location,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: you almost like duplicate your physical body. Other people would
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: be able to see you. That the astral realm is
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: like an invisible realm to other people. Only you can
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: see that realm whenever you're in it. Nobody else could
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: see it. But if you were to bylocate, like if
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I were to bylocate to your location right now, you
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: would be able to see me because I would be
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: standing in your room, but I would also be sitting
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: right here, so you would see me in the corner
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: of your room standing there. That would be more of
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: like a bylocation. You're almost taking on another physical, spiritual avatar,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: almost a duplicate copy of you.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had a shaman on who was describing a
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: situation kind of like that. In my view, what he
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: was telling me.
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: Was that his his teacher, was able to do this,
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: was able to be in two places at once, and
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: he caught him doing it once at a monastery or something.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: So I think I believe that it's real, and I
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: believe that it can be done. But the astral thing
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: is like having an out of body experience, is different.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: I think that that is a different level of reality.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: So the by location you would still be in this reality.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: In the astral realm, you would be in a different
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: layer of reality. You would essentially be like a spiritual
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: being in the astral realm. Was that guy? Uh? That
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: dude was Tom? Was a Tom Sawyer what you're talking about?
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: No, the guy who I had on the shaman, Oh No.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: It was a different time.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Uh, Kevin uh Turner. I think, sorry if I'm messing
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: up your name, Bud, but he okay. I think what
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: happened was he walked into the monastery and he was
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: looking for this person. He thought he saw them, or
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: he did see them up on a balcony kind of
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: looking at him, kind of like smiling and acting goofy,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: and he didn't go up there. He turned around and
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: walked out, went down the steps, and that same person
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: was walking up the steps and there's no way they
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: could have gotten from that balcony, passed him all the
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: way down to the bottom of hill and started walking
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: up the steps. That was one story. I think he's
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: got several stories like that. That's one that I'm kind
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: of remembering right now. Either way, I remember when he
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: was telling me some of these stories. I remember thinking, oh,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: he's he's talking, he's been he's hanging around these guys
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: like you're saying, who have mastered this art of breath
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: work and are able to do what we would consider
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: supernatural stuff with it. But it was all along. We
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: have this ability to do things that we just don't
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: like six sins, right, some of this stuff has just
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: been like you know how programmed we are through schooling
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: and just living in this society that we live, we're
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: super perg A lot of this stuff, for lack of
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: a better way of saying it has been programmed out
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: of us. We think this is stuff you go see
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: in a movie that's not actually available to us. It's
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: not we can't really do that, But I think it's
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: just a forgotten art. I'll just call it that, some
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: sort of a forgotten like set of things that we
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: once were able to do, like telepathy.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then instead of you know, making it where
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: we develop these spiritual abilities on our own and we
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: get back to that stage, they want to put some
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: sort of shortcut into it and put AI and robotics
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: in there and put a brain chip in your brain
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: so it makes you you don't have some sort of telepathy.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure that Elon Musk has talked
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: about that eventually, like everyone's going to have a brain
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: schup and like everyone's going to be, you know, pelopathic.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, you can do that if we
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: are allowed to do that, if we have enough time
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: to develop spiritually and we're not shut down at every
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: single corner like we are in school. You know, like
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: there's many gifted people out there, but they are made
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: to be that that they're weird or that there's something
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: wrong with them. They end up getting put on some
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: sort of medication. They sometimes get locked up in asylums,
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: they get put in you know, the state hospitals and stuff. Whenever,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: they're just like more in touch. They're just more in
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: tune with everything that's going on. But I think the
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: knows that's something.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: They know about this because they're they're at the same time,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I agree with what you're saying. At the same time,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: they're sending people out to schools to pool kids aside
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: and give them like Warshack tests and stuff and see
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: if they can, like if they have any type of abilities.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Like they did it in my school too. I was
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: one of the three kids that I think they asked
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: my mom and they told her it was for like,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: you know, something like extracurricular. I don't know, they were
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: going to give me like access to a better college.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know, they told her something like that. Eventually,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: like they're like, oh, he'll be like in a gifted
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: program or whatever, and they had I remember I sat
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: down with this guy and he sat right in front
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: of me, and he pulled out these cards and they
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: had like warshack stuff on, like weird shapes that He's like,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: what's what's this look like to you? And then at
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: one point he was like, I know this seems kind
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: of weird, but can you tell me what's on the
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: other side of this card? And I was like, I
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: just kind of looked at him like no because I
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: can't see the other side of the card. He's like,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: that's okay, just try kind of a thing. I didn't get. No,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: that went nowhere for me. I never saw that guy again.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: None of that stuff like panned out for me. But
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I've heard other people tell very similar stories that they
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: were these guys were out looking, they were recruiting for this.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: I would call it a CIA program with some sort
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: a government program of some sort.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a grooming it's a grooming program. Yeah, that's
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: what they call it. The gifted programs went under different
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: names in different parts, and the excuse was a different
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: depending on where you lived and what town you uh,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: what state you lived in. There was different excuses for it.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Like some people were told that they were really smart
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: and that they were going to be put into a
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: you know, a better program for gifted people, and then
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: other people were told that it was a bad thing
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: that they were being put in gifted program. It depends
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: on where where you lived. And people have recalled getting
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: some sort of medication, some kind of drink pink or
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: yellow drink like thick like peptobismol that they had to drink.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Some people recall flash cars, they recall hearing tests. They're
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: all being you know, you should be hearing this and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: you're right here type of hearing test which has triggered
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of people. But that actual test is from
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: the Monro Institute gateway tapes that people are remembering. So
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: how did the Monro Institute gateway tapes get involved in
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: public school? Okay, so then that's a whole other rabbit hole.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: I'm doing a big This is what my new documentary
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: is going to be about, is this exact topic right
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: here and tracking down how all of this stuff fits
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: together and what exactly were they doing with these kids
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: in school and pulling them out of class. Some people
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: remember like having a reading test. Others remember having to
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: put three D goggles on the flash cards. Like you
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: just explained what was a really big one. So there's
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: something to it. There's something to it. There's something going on.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: They're testing for abilities, they're testing for people to see
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: what they what direction that they can push them into.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: And a lot of the people that were involved in
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: these tests for a really long time, like years and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: years and years, ended up in the military or working
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: for one of these three letter organizations. At least the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: people that I've talked to that I know, they all
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: went down a military path three letter organization past CIA,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: d O, d DJ, you know, and they were kind
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: of shepherd and pushed in that direction. Yeah.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: And then you think about or I think about the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Montalk Project, and I think, of course, I think about,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: you know, like the Stranger Things element to that, Like
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: there was It's been a while since I've looked into this,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: so I might not nail every little detail here, But
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: there was a lady who put out a blog in
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: the early aughts saying that she was involved with the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Montalk Project, and I think some of Stranger Things was
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: like based on this lady's blog. She was like the
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: real life eleven.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: There's been many people this claimed that several people, like
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: three or four different people. I don't really put a
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: lot of steak into the Montalk project because we're really
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: The guy that started that whole thing is Preston Nichols,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: and pretty much she did right rip off like the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia Experiment, an old movie that came out in like
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: the latest seventies, like early eighties. He just ripped that off.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: He just watched the movie and then created his entire
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: story surrounding it. And then he would also like to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: jerk dudes off.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: So yeah, he's just like a whole thing.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: So like, I don't really put any kind of stake
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: into the Montauk project. But there's another one that's really
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: interesting that I can't remember the name of it right
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: off him, but it basically revolves this guy that found
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: this old tin can box that his uncle left him
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: whenever he died that his uncle supposedly found out in
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: New York City out in the woods, and he put
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: it on the shelf for like twenty years, and then
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: his nephew got all of his things whenever he passed away,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: and then he found the box and opened the box
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: and apparently had all these old pictures in it that
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: involved children at this top secret military base that no
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: one could find any record of ever existing, and I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: had pictures of like generals and people. No one could
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: find any information out about it. And I apparently had
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: like video reels inside of it as well, and some
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: of the pictures were released, but the video was never released.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: There's like this huge blog spot on it online. I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: can't think of the name. I did a show on it,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: not too Yeah, it was really sketchy type of scenario.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: He was also posting like fake photos and like stock
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: images of like certain things and stuff. So it's like
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: so hard to know what's true and what's not true.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: And it's even getting harder to realize now that like
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: AI is like all involved. So it's like even like
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: back in the early two thousands, because that's when this
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: this thing all went down in this big blog spot
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: with this with what I'm talking about here was going
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: yeah for like a couple of years and then it
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: just like abruptly stopped. He just kind of stopped posting.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: But there's also those arg types of things, which is
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: a huge thing on like Rudded and then like a
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: lot of that which is like an augmented reality game
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: like that people just play all the time. And then
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: it depends on what the audience, how the audience responds,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: depends on where your story goes next.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Right, talk about Ben Eggregre Right, So yeah, and I'm
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: with you on the Press and Nicols thing, just to
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: touch on that again, Like I that dude, you know,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: he kind of just shattered his own story. Which the
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: more the more you look into him, the more you like.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if I can believe anything
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: this guy says. But that whole area was interesting to me.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: My top point, Like, there is the base there. Locals
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: did say that there were kids going in and out
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: of there. I think there was some sort of a
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: program that involving kids, and Preston Nichols came in there
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: and just maybe fictionalized the rest of it from there.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: And but you've got Plumb Island right there next to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Montalk Point where they were doing biological testing. That's where
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Frank Olsen was working before he was dosed with LSD
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: by got leave himself and killed I believe by the CIA,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: thrown out of ability. So there's Plumb Island is right
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: next to Montalk Point. And then right so you got
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Montalk Point here, Plumb Island, and then you've got Lime
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: New York where a lot of shady business was going on.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I think that that's hearing the Vietnam War where they
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: developed Lime's disease as a biological war. They were going
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: to drop it on the on the people out there.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: So you know, I was looking at Montalk in that light.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well, this this area right here
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: seems to be where they're doing all their shady stuff.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe there is something to it. But regardless of Montac,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: I do think that these these child programs were going on,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: and I think, you know, there's many uses for that
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: for somebody who's I guess evil. I guess would be
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: the best way to put it. Like you you can
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: create a an assassin, spy, somebody who you can send
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: in to do secret missions, secret missions. Honestly, I know
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: it sounds like like a movie at that point, but
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: I think this stuff really does go on.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a part of it. That was one
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: of the sections of MK Ultra mind Control is to
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: you know, how can we use this for anything affarious
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: And obviously that's the top secret assassin is going to
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: be really high up on the list, but also like
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: information carriers, prostitution, uh, disinformationalist, misinformationalists, I mean the mk
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: ultra programs can be used with an array of things.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: You know, it can be so much that you don't
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: you don't even know exactly what's going on. And that's
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: like the big part of it as well. Like I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: was mentioning earlier, the confusion aspect, right, if you get
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: everybody confused on what it is that they're supposed to be,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: you throw up so many different signals. You have everybody
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: jumping in with their own thoughts and their own ideas
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: and their own theories on everything. Then it just muddies
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: the waters and nobody knows what it is that they're
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: supposed to believe. And this has been done on a
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: media level for decades now. They give certain news stories
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: to certain parts of the population. Also, depending on what state,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: what city you live in, you get a different set
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: of news. Like they can literally put something, they can
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: put a positive spin on something in freaking Washington, Washington State,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: and then in Florida it'll be a negative spin on it,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: or it'll be something completely different. They already do that
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: with the media. They're definitely doing that with this community
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: or any other community, so that nobody is ever on
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: the same page, so no one can ever agree with anything,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: and everyone can be divided, and that is ultimately so
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: that nobody ever comes together and does anything about it. Yeah,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: no one can be unified and actually go up to
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: the White House steps and be like, we know that
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: the Epstein files exist, and we're going to demand it,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: and we're going to stand out here until you give
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: us the Epstein files.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're starting.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Going to do that because everybody is never on the
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: same page about anything, right, I mean, we could have
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: done that as soon as that happened to JFK. That
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: could have been the thing. As soon as the JFK
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: assassination happened and people seen, oh this isn't lining up,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: this is a brutal film, is not what is being
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: showed that the official report from the Warren Commission is
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: showing we should be pissed, we should be really pissed,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: and we should be demanding answers. But you can't demand
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: answers if you don't have numbers on your side.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: So the programming was very thick then like people were
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: people still believed wholeheartedly in their government. Then there weren't
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of conspiracy theorists running around when when JFK
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: was killed, you know that's people don't People didn't even
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: know about mk Ultra. A lot of people didn't even
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: know to question their government. You know, all this stuff
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: starts in the fifties, but people don't know about it
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: or the forties. Considering if you get we got some
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: of this mk ultra stuff from the Nazis, then it
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: goes from Bluebird to Artichow to mk Ulture, which had
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: which had the four sub projects that that that included children.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: So we know that that's real, but people didn't know.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: That's my point.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: It was, let's let's do a more recent one.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: Then let's do like nine to eleven O based. So
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: whenever nine to eleven happened, we could have marched right
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: up to the White House and been like, oh, hey,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: can you explain to us how two solid buildings collapse demolition,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: like when two jet liner planes hit the side of
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: the building. Yeah, and how did Building seven collapse with
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: nothing ever hitting it? What hit the Pentagon? Then what
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: crashed in Pennsylvania. There's literally no luggage, there's no there's
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: not even a remnant of a plane that hit the
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Pentagon nothing. They made the event so traumatic that nobody
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: thought the question it nine to eleven at the time.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: It didn't. The wheels didn't start falling off until around yeah,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, two thousand and seven, two thousand
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: and eight, and then that's when the wheels started coming
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: off of the whole nine to eleven thing. Because then
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: you had Loose Change, which was a documentary examining all
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: of it, than you have Zeitgeist, there's a documentary examining
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: all of it. But right then we could have been
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: like and then all these engineers and all these people
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: are saying that it's impossible for a building building to
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: fall free fall from a freaking it should be able
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: to withstand freaking fifteen jet liners hitting it and still standing.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: I ask any engineer how that is possible. How a
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: jet liner hits aside of a building like that that's
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: made out of steel beams and the free freaking thing
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: collapse demolition stock It's impossible. It doesn't happen unless it
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: was the controlled demolition, unless there was explosives put inside
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: of the building and they hit the building with the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: explosives and then it blows floor by floor.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that's only then.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the twenty twenty event, people should have been way
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: more pissed off about that than they, But instead it
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: was about something completely different. Instead, it was about George Floyd.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: That we were out there rioting and burning down our
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: cities and looting and throwing bricks through businesses and destroying businesses. Right,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: they usurped that entire freaking thing and turned it on
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: its head about something completely different. They didn't let the
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: real thing that we should be pissed off about actually
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: escalate to that level of where we should have been.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: They made it about something completely different, and then that
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: took the gunpowder out of anything that could have possibly
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: been about the real event that actually happened. Then they
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: paid people off to not do anything about it. Right,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: They sent people checks in the mail, almost double triple
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: the amount that they were making every single week, so
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: that they would stay indoors, stay inside, not go out,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: not do the things that you were normally doing. So
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: it was like a pacification, right, don't be mad, don't
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: be pissle. But the UK didn't do that. Look how
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: many riots and protests that you can add over that. Australia,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: same thing Australia didn't do that. They didn't pay their
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: citizens to stay home. They just said, go stay home.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: That's it. You can't do anything. We're not going to
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: help you at all. I think said in the United States,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: we had riots and protests and burning down of cities
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: and destroying of small businesses that were already freaking hurting.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: They were just finished off and destroyed like that over
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: something that we shouldn't even have been mad about in
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: the first So I'm not say we shouldn't been mad
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: about it, like it should have been about something completely
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: different than what it was actually about.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I have a thought on this. My thought
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: on this is that we're getting hit relentlessly with stiles
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: from every angle nowadays, and I think that kind of
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: coincides with the rise of the deep state. I won't
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: go into all that, I'd need a whole episode for
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: that how we got to this point, But I think
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: also what we're seeing here is they're using movies Hollywood
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: as propaganda to get everybody to cover the whole entire populace,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: and they do what Naomi Client calls shock doctrine, which
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: is applied techniques of MK culture on society Basically, you
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: shock people with crisis events so you can direct them
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: on not just what to think, but kind of like
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: how to think. All the while they're in this emotional
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: state and they're susceptible to all this irrational thought that
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: you can plug into them suggestive thoughts of violence, and
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: now all of a sudden boom, all these riots are
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: It's like they get us in this state, and it's
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: like some sort of a weird controlled chaos thing that
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: comes over us.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: That's right, and you can see that with the LA,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: the most recent riots in LA, it's the exact same thing.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: It's the exact same thing playing out over and over again.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: They're using the same rule book that they've always used
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: since the very beginning. They just switch up the reason,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: but it's the exact same outcome. Problem, reaction, solution. I
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: know people have heard that one hundred times, but it's
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: very true. They create the problem, they gauge the reaction,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: and then they offer the solution. And the solution is
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: always taking away more of our freedoms and our sovereignty
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: and severance. That's always the solution. That is the main
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: goal of every event ever happens. It's to slowly strip
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: away the freedoms that people have in the United States.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: That's what it is, is chipping away at it, chipping
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: away at it, with everything setting it up for the
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: next thing decades in evance. Yeah, that's what twenty with
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: all the how many viruses and illnesses did we hear
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: about in the media leading up to twenty twenty, bird flu,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: swine flu, mad cow, the list just keeps going on
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: and on and on. It was the perfect setup for
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: what they have planned in the future. And right now
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: they're planning something in the future. We just don't know
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: what it is, but they're already setting up for it.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: And I think too, just maybe circle back to some
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: of the work you've done with looking at Hogwood, looking
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: at Kubrick and all that. I do think that that's
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: a vector that they used. It's a tool for them,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Hollywood and just sendema, you know. And I think a
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: lot of that started in World War Two, like two
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: years after Pearl Harbor, America's at war and the CIA
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: puts out that memo that says, you know, cinema is
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: the most powerful propaganda weapon at the disposal of the
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: United States. And I think that that idea continue from
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: World War two into the fifties where you have Eisenhower
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: of fifty three, he said he had some sort of
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: a saying that something like the hand of government must
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: be carefully concealed through like businesses in the field of
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: music and entertainment. Like he's like, you know, concealing the
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: hidden handed movies is what he was talking about. And
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: that's kind of like what they did. And I think
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: they put all these suggestive little things in these movies,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: like like I mentioned earlier, Close Encounters, Like that's where
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of people lidified in their mind's eye what
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: a gree alien looks like is suggested to them, and
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: then your mind does the rest. Right, all of a sudden,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: that's not just something from a movie anymore. That's something. Oh,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: that's what's going on with all this UFO stuff. That's
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: little green men from other planets concealing the hand, the
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: hidden hand in movies. James Bond, right, I think five
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: that guy was that dude's name Fleming. He was like
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: a CIA dude. Ian Fleming that wrote those was like
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: he was a government guy. And those those movies were
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: produced at five of them that I know of, were
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: produced with the d D and the CIA.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: You're interesting with the Formers movies. I mean, and this
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: was all just recently disclosed. I mean, and can you
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: break as we show in our movie, you think all
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: of the through the organization Langley Air Force Base, air
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Force Intelligence, the d D at the end of his
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: movie two thousand and one, A Space Odyssey, and then
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: someone had to have seen that and was like, no,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: you need to take these credits out. You can't be
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: thinking essentially all branches and all parts of the government
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: for helping create your movie. So it was on the
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: download back then, and then we hit the two thousands
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: and then you know, all these four year requests come through,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: and that's when we find out about the James Bond stuff.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: That's how we find out about the Transformers, That's how
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: we find out about Die Another Day, all these other
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: movies that the government has been funding and helped produce.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, Hollywood is the propaganda arm of the government.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Absolutely what it's been, and that's what it's always been.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: That's what it's going to continue to be until you know,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: independent media people start rising up, and I think that
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: it is our time. Now's the time for us to
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: really push you know, full fledged into this and create
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: our own stuff and do what we're doing right now
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: and create our own movies. Because we're not beholden to anybody.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: We can put out whatever it is that we want
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: to put out and talk about whatever it is that
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: we want to talk about. That's why I'm doing these movies.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: That's why I did the first one, JFKI Solving the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Crime of the Century. It's why I did a clockwork
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: Shiny because it's stamping something that I have created out
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: there for people to see. And I'm not controlled by anybody.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: There's nobody telling me what to do. It's my own
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: creative ideas, my own creative input, and I can make
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: it however I want to make it. You know, I'm
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: not beholden to any studio, not beholden to any streaming network.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: You know, they can't tell me what to put or
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: not put into my movie. But that also relies on
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: people supporting it right. So people have to like support
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: my work and support me and so that I can
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: continue to do it right. It's a it's a grassroots
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: type of thing, and that's how everything really starts. And
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: that's the best way for anything to start, you know,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Like the people that just start out with a freaking
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: million dollar contract in music. I someone a little sketchy,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: someone a little sketchy going on there. You tell me
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: you didn't. You didn't tour around with any freaking you
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: didn't do You didn't play any bars, You didn't play
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: any dive bars. Like, how come nobody knows you like
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: on the street. How come no one has ever heard
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: of you before lay? You know, it's kind of weird, bro,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: It's kind of weird. All you're a first time director
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: and you're directing a multi million dollar movie. That's kind
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: of weird. Bro, Yeah, weird.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: There's something sus something us what's going on there?
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: And their parents are with military, you know the we
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: know the playbook. Yeah, manufactured culture so much of like
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: our favorite bands, our favorite movies. I hate to say
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: this was manufactured culture. Rich kids, military kids, kids with
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: these back channels sue to the government, to the CIA.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: I mean even like I think you guys talked about
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: this in your film too, like the uh it's in
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: look it's out there, lookout mountain, right, I think it's
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: in Laurel Canyon. That's where the government had a they
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: in nineteen it was out there in the thirties and
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: forties maybe, but in like nineteen fifty three, the government
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: took this facility on top of Lookout Mountain and like
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: transformed it, put in new buildings, put in all this
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: state of the art equipment for shooting movies. Now you
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: look into it and you find out that they filmed
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: twenty thousand films there.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: Yep, it's wild.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, them are still classified. A bunch of people had
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: top secret clearance for it. Marilyn Monroe had top secret
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: clearance for it. Ronald Reagan had top secret clearance. A
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: lot of these big Hollywood actors carry grant. Several people
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: had top secret clearance for this Air Force Movie Studios
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: air Force base right outside of Hollywood, on top of
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Laurel Canyon, at this place called Lookout Mountain, where Hollywood
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: is just a stone's throw down the mountain. Okay, you're
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: telling me the Hollywood is where all of these big,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: huge productions are going on. But then you have the
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: Air Force right outside of Hollywood on top of the
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: mountain that is doing the exact same thing. Twenty thousand
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: films being made up there. Nobody knows exactly what they
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: were doing because a lot of the films are still classified,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: but we do know that that's where they made the
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: where they did the atomic bomb testing on miniature sets,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: so like none of that was real mm hm don
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: on miniature sides.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that footage doesn't hold up well. It looks like
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: I said, you know, you've got the Bureau of Motion
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Pictures the way that one. That one, like they wanted
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Americans to believe that the government was doing what was
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: best for everybody and for the whole world at that.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: So they went to Hollywood and they created the Bureau
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: of Motion Pictures. And it was like an idea that
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: started in Washington, d C. And they're like, oh, we
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: got to get out to Hollywood. And so they set
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: up this bureau and like it falls right in line
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: with the timeline like nineteen fifty three fifty four, where
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: you've got like you said, like Mail Monroe and all
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: these people have clearance to look out Mountain also, and
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: that that's what Eisenhower puts his brother, Milton Eisenhower in
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: charge of this Bureau of Motion Pictures. It's wild that
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: that whole abbit hole goes so deep. It's like there's
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: there's that One of my favorite pages to look up
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: is like it's a Wikipedia page, but I think this
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: one's actually legit. It's called the Military Entertainment Complex. If
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: you just put that into Wikipedia and they give you
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: a whole list of movies that THEDD produced in other
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: government agencies, it's like it's so odd, it's like it's wild.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: It's like Top Gun, Well, there's a reason why Top
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: Gun makes you feel so patriotic. It's meant to. It's
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: meant to.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: Because it's created and produced by the freaking Air Force
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: and the government. Mm hm, so CRUs had to learn
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: how to fly a freaking of sixteen fighter jets so
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: that they can make the movie.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: It's funny too, because in that that first scene of
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: that latest Top Top Gun movie, like they actually showed
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: a plane that was only rumored to exist up until
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: that point. It was one of these plans that people
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: were talking about years and years ago, and everybody's like, no,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: they don't have that, that's just that's just a rumor,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: and then they show it in that film. It's like,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of telling you how they do things,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: Like they kind of roll things out in these movies
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: like like two thousand one, Space Odyssey man, like they
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: had an Ahi on board that ship in the sixties
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: late sixties? Yeah, how did they know about that?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: And the Iris supposedly wasn't even inventive at the time.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: I mean you look at all the Star Trek stuff
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: bro it's and it's insanity. But also Stanley Kubrick as well,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: with the B two stealth Bomber and his filming of
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: the movie Doctor Strange Love as well. You went to
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: the Air Force and was like, hey, can you can
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: we use the Can you at least show us what
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: the inside of a B two stalth bomber looks like
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: so we can get it right for ourselves, because we
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: want things to be accurate. Kubrick wanted everything to be
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: very realistic, everything to be very accurate. The props on
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: his side really weren't even prompts. They were like real stuff.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: So all the things that was in the Shining and
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: like in all of his movies, they weren't like fake
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: things like they were all real stuff. If you saw
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: a freaking box of Cereal, it was legitimately a freaking
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: box of Cereal seeing food in it, it was real food,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: wasn't fake food. He wanted everything to be hyper realistic.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: So we went to the Air Force and was like, hey,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: how can we can I see the inside of it
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: be too Stealth Bomber? So my you know, my production
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: designer can get what the inside of a b too
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: Stealth Bomber looks like and we can get it very
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: accurate for a movie. They said no, because if another
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: country is seeing what the inside of our aircraft looks like,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: then they might be able to duplicated or replicated or
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: see where everything is, and they might be able to
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: redesign it and their own version of what we have.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: So then Kuba goes to his production designer is like, hey,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: we need to figure out what the inside of the
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: scene looks like. So he's just clipping on like a
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: bunch of magazines. He's looking at, you know, trying to
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: figure out what the inside it would be too Stealth
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: Bomber looks like. But it's top secret classified information. Then
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: people from the Air Force show up on the set
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: of Doctor Changed Love and they're like, holy shit, how
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: did you get this so accurate? How did you know
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: exactly what this inside of this aircraft looks like? That's
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: top secret that nobody knows what it looks like, and
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: they thought that he got some kind of top secret information.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: Someone leaked him the information of what the inside of
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: the aircraft look like. So they launched this big investigation
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: and Kubrick's production designer had to tell the Air Force
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: and the FBI, how you know he designed inside of
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: this without getting any kind of leaked information from anybody,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: Because that's really what they're That's really what you can
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: get in trouble for is if you have some sort
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: of top secret classified information that you're not supposed to
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: have and then you go around telling people about that,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: or you post it online or whatever. That's really what's
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: going to get you in trouble. It's going to get
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: you sent right to prison if you do that. Like
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: that's the biggest no. No, they don't really care about
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: people that kind of just stumble across things.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: However, that's because you really don't have any proof of that.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: They don't really care about theories because theories are not factual,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: and they can just have plausible denia itability about any
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: kind of theory. If you're actually have top secret, secret
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: classified information, then you're going to be in trouble if
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: you start going around and telling people about it or
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: showing people or showing any kind of documentation or someone
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: from the military gave you that information and then you
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: put it in your movie or whatever. So they were
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: they launched this big, huge investigation and then nothing came
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: of it. But that was like the initial setup of
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: Qubriic starting to work with these agencies, right, because they
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: were really interested in what he was doing. How did
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: he figure this out? You know? And whenever they get
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: people like that, they're like, Okay, well, you know, we
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: might as well work with them if they figured this
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: out on their own and they didn't have anybody telling
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: them how to do it.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: They did that with Tom Clancy. Yeah, same story. I mean,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know the whole story, like perfectly, but something
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: to do with he was describing something one of his
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: books and they sent guys to his house and like, hey,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: how do you know this same thing as the Kubrick thing.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: And apparently that's when they started working with him too.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, this guy is figuring this stuff out
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: with his imagination. He actually doesn't know what the inside
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: of what this certain plane looks like or whatever it is.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: The story goes to Tom Clancy was told them. He's like, no,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: I you guys wouldn't. I couldn't find any of the information.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: So I had to come up with it with my mind.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, well, this is what would
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: be needed in this situation. So I just wrote that down.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: But apparently he got it right. Anyways, they worked with him.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: That's how that story goes to. It reminds me a
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: lot of the Kubrick thing. It's interesting, I think, you know,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: you see it with them, of these guys, Dean Koot's
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: and all them back in the day.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: Man, that's is a sigur D rabbital, especially like them,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: and even like with with books too. I'll see. I
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: saw something the other day where some of these authors are.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: If you look into some of these authors, they're being
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: told basically what to write about to sway public opinion.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: Stuff.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Well, I know they do with the directors.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: It's the oldest thing in the book, right. It started
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: with like newspapers and radio, then transferred into movies and
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: then it was also in books. I mean, it's it's
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: just another way to you know, mind control people and
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: persuade people and push people in a certain direction and
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: cultivate and create their beliefs and psyche drive them into
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: believing something that may or may not even be real.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: It's mk ultra one on one, right, you traumatize people,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: you drug them, which over half the population in the
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: United States is on some form of pharmaceutical drugs. So
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: they got the drugging thing down, right. They got the
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: Trump the drugging, and then the crisis, and then the
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: normalization after that crisis. So it's a it's a global
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: mk ultra program that's just being done on everybody all
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: at one time. They figured it out on an individual level,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: and they're like, Okay, well, we know how to do
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: this individually to individual people that are susceptible because we
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: figured it out through our experimentation. How do we do
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: this to everybody all at the exact same time. I
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: know what we'll do. We'll create a giant, huge event.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: We'll put restrictions on people, We'll make them believe that
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: it was something other than what their eyes actually seen,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: will program them with something completely different, and then they'll
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: believe it. And then if anybody falls out of line
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: that don't believe it, we'll label them something. We'll just
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: call them nothing. But conspiracy theorists will kind of outcast
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: them to this section of society that is for wacos
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: and weirdos, and then they won't be a problem. But
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: eventually we will have to come out and say something
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: about this sometime in the future, but by the time
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: that we do, it won't matter anymore. Mm hmm.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: And then you've got some of the people put in
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: position in government or just positions where they can sway
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: big chunks with population. You look into them and their
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: control too, Like I was looking at Obama the other
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: day and some I mean, because all these presidents are
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: like related apparently right, like Obama's related to the Bushes.
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  Speaker 1: It seems to be like one sort of family at
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, or a couple of families
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: that they're all related. And you know, I was looking
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: at Obama, so his grandparents were like Stanley and Adeline
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: done them, but she was a pain, kind of like
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Ruth Paine from the JFK thing. And then they've got
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: these pictures. It looks like Stanley and Madeline are at
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: the JFK assassination. Like if you look at some of
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: the pictures, it looks like them. But his grandma was.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she was at the JFK thing
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: or not, but she was the president of the or
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: the vice president of the Bank of Hawaii. And then
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: you start looking at her daughter, who's Obama's mom, and
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: it just like I would be super shocked if she
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: wasn't CIA. She was some sort of intelligence, as was
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: his dad, because they they globe hop, they're like always
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: in a different location. They're always working with finance or
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: governments or both. And then she dies. Obama's mom dies
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: two days before he was elected president. But and his
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: dad was involved with banking and government, and it just
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: seemed like they were intelligence, right. And it seems like
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: his dad too, seems like he was killed under some
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: shady circumstances because his dad was in a series of
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: three car accidents back to back and he finally died
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: from the third one. And he went to Harvard, you know.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: So he's in the milieu of all these powerful people.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: It's just like any of the that goes for any
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: of the presidents, any of them that you look into,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: they're they're all related. Like Obama, he's related to Sarah
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: Palin even and to the Bushes. But they're all like this,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: it's always like there's intelligence people in their family, government people,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: and like money, whether it's banking, finance, or they're just rich.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, that seems to be the what's going on. And
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: then also with the music industry as well, Like we
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: were just talking about all the big music people, all
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: the people that were involved in these big bands that
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: pretty much changed the course of society and started the
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: hippie movement that were being pushed out there to be
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: the face of like this. You know, the sixties and
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: the seventies were all ran by the intelligence community and
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: by people that were all like their family members. Their
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: fathers were all high ranking military officials. I mean Bob
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: Marley's dad a British naval intelligence officer. Even the people
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: that weren't in the music industry, I mean Sharon Teet's
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: dad was a high ranking military officer. So it's like
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: all these people, they're all involved in some way of
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: shape or form. And with Jim Morrison, it's like, okay, well,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: now that makes sense to the reason why he was
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: like so wild and crazy. And then like this with
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: like Charles Manson, right, he was essentially working for the CIA,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: So it's like, no matter what he did, he was
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: going to like he was going to get off the hook.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: That's why he wasn't really worried about anything.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: And they were given them.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: He would do whatever he wanted to do anytime. They
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: would never be arrested. Someone would show up and be
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: like let them out.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like Charlie Manson. Yeah. And they were given
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: these guys drugs too, like they were trying to It's
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: almost like they were trying to affect the culture through
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: the rock stars. So they're like John Lennon take LSD,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Mick Jagger take LSD. We want to make that the
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: new thing because if these kids find out that you
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: take LSD, they're all going to want to take LSD
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: because they're all listening to The Stones and the Beatles
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: at that point in time, right because the Stones had
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: to call up the Beatles and be like, hey, are
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: you releasing an album this week? Okay, cool, We'll wait
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: for the next thing to drop hours. Because that's how
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: they were like the biggest bands in the world, and
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: they both had people trying to get to them to
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: not only have like drug parties and like get the
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: drugs into the hands of people at the parties, but
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: they were trying to influence people to take the drugs
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: with the celebrity of it all, like oh man, if
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Mick Jagger and you know, and then you look in
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: like Corney Love, Courtney Love was having drug parties, giving
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: people drugs, hooking people up and like disseminating drugs into
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: the culture.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: That was like, mind the way when I found out
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: that now, what is it now? It's drugs, sucks and crime.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: That's what's being pushed on no, and has been since
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: like the early two thousands. And people can say, oh, well,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that people are like when I go
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: out and do crime and they have promiscuous secks and
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: do drugs. It is programming your subconscious. It is one
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: programming your subconscious. Now, you can't say that somebody that
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: has never done drugs or ever committed a crime is
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: going to immediately go out and do drugs, commit crime,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: and have sex with a bunch of prostitutes. It doesn't
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: work like that. The way that it works is whenever
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: the opportunity presents itself to do drugs or do some
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: kind of crime, your subconscious is already programmed to think
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: that it's okay and that You're going to get away
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: with it because your favorite music artist and your favorite
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: rapper does it all the time and you want to
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: be like them. Right, It's not an instantaneous thing. It's
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: a program the subconscious mind, or at some point in
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: the future, when the opportunity arises, you are more likely
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: to do it than if you weren't listening to that before.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: That's the way that it works. That's like what they
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: were saying about the music. As crazy as they were
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: back in the day, they weren't wrong. They were right
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: in a lot of cases. And how this is going
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: to impact our society. I mean, we see the impacts
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: of it, Like, go to San Francisco, walk down downtown,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: walk down skid Row San Francisco, go to Chicago, walk
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: around the bad part of Chicago for a couple three
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: or four minutes. Brow we'll see how bad this shit is.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that music is all responsible for that.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: It's a huge there's plenty of other factors, but the
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: music doesn't help, just doesn't help. But it's the exact
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: same thing was going on with dollars d times, and
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: it's just changed and manipulated into a different style of music,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: but it's the exact same thing.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, we could clean up our society
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: a lot. I know people don't want to hear this,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: but if we were to clean up our music a
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: little bit, clean up the message that's being piped out
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: into all these young people's brains. And I know that
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: sounds like a grandpa here, but like the music right
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: now is not helping things. It's really not.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's not. It's not helping us doing damage.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: Is doing.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: Really bad effects of the subconscious mind. It's programming people
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: for things that may or may not happen in the future.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: It's putting people down a bad path. It's uh. And
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: that might sound like insanity or something really stupid, but
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: it's one true. I mean, you can see it play
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: out in like every single day life. And it's affecting kids.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: It's affecting children, and it's affecting adults and it's you know,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: but that's the thing that's like pushed out there the
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: most is like sucks, sucks, sucks, drugs, drugs, drugs, crime, crime, crime,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: shoot you, shoot you, you know what I mean, Like, like,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: if that's what you're listening to when you're speaking the lyrics.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: Then at some point that is more highly likely to
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: actually happen because it's a spell. Right, they're brainwashing you.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: They're mind controlling you, they're putting something in your head,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: they're psychically driving you. That's what music is. That's what
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: repeating the same That's why they have the hook in music.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: That's why they have the chorus in music, because it's
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: something that you can sing along with. Right, it's a
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: psychic driving. It's repeating the same thing over and over
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: and over again. That's why Edam music is really popular
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: because it's the same beat, the same thing with like
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: the the heavy drop, tricking your mind into believing that
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: you actually like the shit that you think that you're doing,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: like super hard and it's complete and utter garb.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like an advertisement, man, I mean it's like
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: the by the third or fourth time a kid hears
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: about Lane in a song, they're going, Okay, I've got
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: to try this Lane. It's an advertisement. But yeah, before
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: you get out of here, man, I know we've got
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: to wrap it up here. Do you want to tell
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: anybody or tell everybody about this new project you got.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited about it. Did we touch on some
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: of the stuff that you're going to touch on in
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: your next documentary.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's going to involve the government's likech expired program,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: Stargate program which went under several different names. It is
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: going to be a whole history of that. Then it's
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: going to get into the h the gates of the
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: gifted programs that were going on in schools with the
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: Monroe Institute Gateway tapes, so you got Stargate Gateway school
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: gate programs. Is very convoluted. It was really convoluted, but
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: I got everything lingering up for that. I'm gonna start fuming.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: Hopefully you're next month, so be on the lookout for that.
• 1:47:03
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• 1:47:10
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• 1:47:31
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If you guys heard anything today that you're wondering about,
• 1:48:00
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