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The DiCecco Daily: Nakobe Dean's Reemergence For Birds Defense Comes As Offense Copes With Lane Johnson's Loss · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on everybody? Welcome into this edition of
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  Speaker 1: the Checko Daily. It's Andrew de Checo here from Insidethbirds
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Well, there's news out of Eagles Land Monday morning,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't sound particularly good as it pertains to
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  Speaker 1: Lane Johnson, Eagles right tackle, the best in the world,
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  Speaker 1: the best in the business, and Adam Schefter from ESPN
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  Speaker 1: says that Eagles five time All Pro offensive tackle Lane
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  Speaker 1: Johnson suffered a list frank injury during Sunday Night's win
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  Speaker 1: over the Lions. For sources, it is not expected to
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  Speaker 1: be a season ending injury, but he could be headed
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  Speaker 1: to injured reserve. It's a tough break for Lane Johnson
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  Speaker 1: this year, who's battled foot, ankle, stinger, and he's been
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  Speaker 1: playing at such a high level and has throughout his career.
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  Speaker 2: It's certainly a damper.
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  Speaker 1: And when you're an Eagles offense that struggle to sustain
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  Speaker 1: any sort of consistency, it's not something.
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  Speaker 2: That you want to take lightly.
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  Speaker 1: And given Lane Johnson's age and situations like that, you
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  Speaker 1: have to always look at it and be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more concerned than you ordinarily would. That's not an
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  Speaker 1: injury to be taken lightly, certainly not someone who plays
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  Speaker 1: that position, who relies on his athleticism and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: And it's going to be a big loss for the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles because you can make an argument that, well, you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to make an argument. He's one of the
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  Speaker 1: most important players on the team. I don't do rankings,
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  Speaker 1: That's not how I operate. But it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a huge loss for an Eagles offensive line that has
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  Speaker 1: been battled by battling injuries this season, whether it's Cam Jurgen's,
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  Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson, Lane Johnson, Tyler Stein's been healthy, Jordan mylottis battled.
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  Speaker 2: Through you know some things.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I guess he mentioned back in the summer
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  Speaker 1: or whenever it was that the season that they had
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  Speaker 1: last year.
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  Speaker 2: Really, you know, it takes a toe on you.
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  Speaker 1: So Lane Johnson, We're gonna have to wait and see
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  Speaker 1: the severity of it and the specifics. But right now
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  Speaker 1: it looks like he will be well, he could be
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  Speaker 1: headed into reserve, and that means that Fred Johnson, the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles do it all tackle. He's there a swing tackle
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  Speaker 1: on game day, he stepped in and done a nice job.
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  Speaker 2: He will be the guy to step in.
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  Speaker 1: He had a nice outing against the Lions, at least
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  Speaker 1: upon first watch. We'll see how he's able to hold
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  Speaker 1: up for the long period of time. But that trade
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  Speaker 1: that Howie Roseman was able to execute to get Fred
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  Speaker 1: Johnson back in Philadelphia from the Jacksonville Jaguars looks all
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  Speaker 1: the more important.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, and really shrewd, I don't need to.
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  Speaker 1: Say how impact how impacted the Eagles could be without
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  Speaker 1: Lane Johnson. The Eagles are fifteen to twenty three in
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  Speaker 1: games in which Lane Johnson doesn't appear, and they also
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  Speaker 1: have a good track record with Fred Johnson in there
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  Speaker 1: at tackle as well. So optimistic that Frey can step
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  Speaker 1: in there with the pieces that they already have and
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  Speaker 1: steady the ship until Lane Johnson comes back. Will wait
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  Speaker 1: for further information and we'll see where it goes from there.
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  Speaker 1: And I just want to talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles defensive dominance yesterday against the Detroit Lions. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: from powar to post, you can look at every player
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  Speaker 1: starting in that defense, and they all made a play
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  Speaker 1: you can look across the defensive line, the linebacker situation,
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  Speaker 1: the secondary, and every player.
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  Speaker 2: Had and made a noticeable impact on that game.
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  Speaker 1: But I think the player who maybe shined the and
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  Speaker 1: I wrote a story about this for Inside the Birds
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  Speaker 1: dot Com, is linebacker Nakobe Dean and I explain why
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  Speaker 1: in my story because Nakobe is a tone setter. He's
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  Speaker 1: extremely physical, he's a leader, an on field coach, but
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  Speaker 1: he's a good blitzer, and I think more than anything,
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  Speaker 1: it's the mindset that he brings, the physicality, the play
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  Speaker 1: on their terms, and when you have a player who's
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  Speaker 1: able to do all those things be a positive influence
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  Speaker 1: to others and everyone there has different leadership qualities. Zach
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  Speaker 1: Bond's great, Jordan Davis is great, Red Blanket Ship's great.
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  Speaker 1: They have a number of players who can do that,
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  Speaker 1: But I think there's something about na Kobe that just
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  Speaker 1: radiates leadership. He's a natural born leader. He has a
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  Speaker 1: coach's mindset about him where he's wiser beyond his years.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's only twenty five years old.
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  Speaker 3: And.
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  Speaker 1: There's something that he brings to the defense that gets
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  Speaker 1: everybody fired up and he holds everyone accountable. He wants
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  Speaker 1: to play the standard, he's not worried about personal accolades,
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  Speaker 1: and he's extremely extremely physical against the run.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to him for five minutes and one worthy you're
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  Speaker 1: going to probably hear as it pertains to defense is
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  Speaker 1: physical at least a few times, because that's something he
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  Speaker 1: believes in, but he lives it as well, and you
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  Speaker 1: just go out there and watch the way that he plays,
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  Speaker 1: and it's super evident. You pair him now with Zach
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  Speaker 1: Bond and they're both playing at all pro level. And
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  Speaker 1: that's not to take away from Jehid Campbell, because I
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  Speaker 1: think Jahid Campbell has done some really nice things.
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  Speaker 2: As a rookie this year.
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  Speaker 1: It would serve the Eagles well to keep him in
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  Speaker 1: the mix in the rotation, get him snaps they're going
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  Speaker 1: to because he does offer a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: different skill set than na Kobe does in terms of
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  Speaker 1: just the ranginess, the length, and I think he has
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  Speaker 1: a unique He has unique dimensions that lend itself to
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  Speaker 1: being able to cover tight ends maybe a little bit better.
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  Speaker 1: But as an overall linebacker as expected as I mean
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  Speaker 1: Nikobe's been in the league since twenty twenty two, he's
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  Speaker 1: the better option. And it's very clear to me and
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure all of you who have watched the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: defense since Nakobe was inserted against the Minnesota Vikings that
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  Speaker 1: Vic Vangio has a lot of confidence and trust in
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  Speaker 1: the Kobe. Again not saying that he doesn't for Jihad,
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  Speaker 1: but there's something to be said for a player whose
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  Speaker 1: intelligence football IQ is on a completely different level. He
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  Speaker 1: reads and diagnoses things at a very quick pace, and
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  Speaker 1: he's just played a lot more football, so naturally, when
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  Speaker 1: he's out there, he's seen pretty much everything that you're
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  Speaker 1: going to throw at him, and he anticipates. He plays
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  Speaker 1: with instincts. Those are things that come with time. But
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  Speaker 1: where the defense is right now, you can see that
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  Speaker 1: And Nikobe hasn't given Vic a reason to really spell
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  Speaker 1: him at any point. I think when you look at
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  Speaker 1: the linebacker situation last year or even the year before,
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  Speaker 1: I got back to that open practice, not last summer,
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  Speaker 1: the one.
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  Speaker 2: Before it that that was where Nikobe was.
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  Speaker 1: I think Kenny Gainwell got him a couple times in
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  Speaker 1: space in the receiving game, and I know that there
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  Speaker 1: were maybe some who were questioning Nikobe's ability for a
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  Speaker 1: coverage aspect, but he's really refined that area. I go
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  Speaker 1: back to two plays that he had Sunday night against
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  Speaker 1: the Lions where he was in coverage against Jamison Williams
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  Speaker 1: and Ammra Saint Brown, and they were both in completions.
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  Speaker 1: There is a play where I believe he defended a
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  Speaker 1: wheel route. Well maybe the week before that against the Packers.
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  Speaker 1: Teams are going to look to try to do that,
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  Speaker 1: but I think that he's proven that he should be.
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  Speaker 2: An every down linebacker or close to it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think you're seeing him start to take
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  Speaker 1: over in a real way if you look at the
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  Speaker 1: snapshare from the game, and in fact, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: take a look at that in a moment, because I
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  Speaker 1: think that that really sheds a little bit of light
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  Speaker 1: as to the scenario and how players are sort of
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  Speaker 1: slotting in in their roles down the stretch. Here, let's
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  Speaker 1: see Nakobe Dean played forty snaps. That was sixty eight
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  Speaker 1: percent of the total, Johi Campbell played twenty snaps. That's
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  Speaker 1: thirty four percent of the total. Okay, so you're seeing
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a balance, and that's favoring Nakobe
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  Speaker 1: and I mean, frankly, that should be expected. But Johi
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  Speaker 1: Campbell's going to remain involved and that's something that you
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  Speaker 1: can feel pretty confident. And of course he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be He has a big future here and he has
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  Speaker 1: a defined role within the defense right now. Brandon Graham,
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  Speaker 1: for those wondering, played eight snaps. That was fourteen percent
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  Speaker 1: of the total. Trying to get some key guys here.
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  Speaker 1: Moro Jomo played thirty seven snaps. That's sixty three percent
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  Speaker 1: of a total. Jayalen Carter fifty three snaps ninety percent
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  Speaker 1: of the defensive total. The players who didn't come off
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  Speaker 1: the field from the defensive side Cooper Dejen, Red Blanket, Ships,
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  Speaker 1: Zach Bond, Quinnon, Mitchell, and Drew mccoober. They all played
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  Speaker 1: fifty nine of fifty nine snaps. From an offensive perspective, here,
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  Speaker 1: let's see Grant Kakata thirty four snaps forty seven percent
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  Speaker 1: of the snaps. Kylon Grantson fifteen percent, twenty one or
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  Speaker 1: fifteen snaps twenty one percent.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot for both of those tight ends.
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  Speaker 1: It's a shame because Cameron Latsu played just one snap
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  Speaker 1: and one snap on offense, and he made He laid
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  Speaker 1: a really nice block on Aiden Hutchinson on a play
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  Speaker 1: than which looked like it was going to be a
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  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley one yard or touchdown run. They ended up
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  Speaker 1: moving it to the one after deeming that he didn't
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  Speaker 1: get in. But cam Latsu on his one play made
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  Speaker 1: a nice block. Looked like in the Packers game there
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  Speaker 1: was a play where he ran a wheel route.
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  Speaker 2: Up the right sideline.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say so I would like to see
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  Speaker 1: cam Lato involved in the offense a little bit. Again,
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  Speaker 1: when you're looking at the personnel groupings, I think I've
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  Speaker 1: seen some a willingness from Kevin Patula to shake things up.
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  Speaker 1: Whether it was Will Shipley being involved and Tank Bigsy
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  Speaker 1: being involved more in the opening and throughout the game
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  Speaker 1: against the Packers, or whether it was Kylie Grantson receiving
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  Speaker 1: two targets against the Lions, one on that third and five.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Tank pigsby having a role, they're just finding
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  Speaker 1: different ways to get players involved. And you have to
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  Speaker 1: wonder if you're going to a lot, if you can
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  Speaker 1: do something to get someone like Cameron Lattu, who was
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  Speaker 1: a terrific blocker, extremely physical, rangey on special teams, if
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  Speaker 1: he starts to rack up double digit tackles on special teams,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you this right now, he has special
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  Speaker 1: teams Pro Bowl upside. I've seen a lot from him.
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  Speaker 1: He he prides himself in his job. But take a
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  Speaker 1: look at him on kickoff, just taking charge and running
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  Speaker 1: down the field, dominating the person in front of him,
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  Speaker 1: clearing the way and getting after it and from a
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  Speaker 1: tackling prowess perspective and just playing physical, willing to mix
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  Speaker 1: it up with the other team. And you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: something that I think is inherent and he has that,
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  Speaker 1: and I believe that he can be an asset in
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  Speaker 1: that regard and setting the you know, the tone at
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  Speaker 1: the point of attack as a blocker on offense and
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  Speaker 1: have just more of an expanded role because you have
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard, Grant Kakata, as I mentioned for years, is willing.
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  Speaker 1: That's not his forte, that's not Kylon Granson's forte. Cam
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  Speaker 1: lots who can absolutely do that. He has the frame
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  Speaker 1: for it, he has the mindset, and he's willing to
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  Speaker 1: do whatever it takes for the team. And I just
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  Speaker 1: there's been enough that I've seen on tape, and there's
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  Speaker 1: been you know, just talking to him. I think that
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  Speaker 1: that is something if you're the Eagles and you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to find way to increase physicality, pay running lanes and
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  Speaker 1: optimize your personnel, maybe that's something that they can look at.
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  Speaker 1: But as I sit here on this Monday evening, these
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  Speaker 1: are some of the.
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  Speaker 2: Thoughts that I have. That's gonna do it.
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  Speaker 1: For this edition of The check of Daily, this is
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  Speaker 1: Andrew to Checko from inside the burs dot Com. Check
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  Speaker 1: out my stories, my observations from the game, my story
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  Speaker 1: on to Kobe Dean, and Tuesday the Eagles return.
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  Speaker 2: Of the Novacare Complex. You'll hear from the coordinators and
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  Speaker 2: we'll have plenty to say about that.
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