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- Luna: So we've talked a lot about Ramses's Hittite wars and his building projects, but I feel like we haven't really focused on Nubia yet. Lucas: You're right—and that's a big omission, because Nubia—or Kush, as the Egyptians called it—was arguably more important to Egypt's economy than the Hittite frontier. The gold, the trade goods, the manpower... Ramses didn't just conquer it; he transformed it into an integral part of the Egyptian state. Lucas: By the time Ramses took the throne, his father Seti I had already pushed Egyptian control deep into Nubia, all the way to the Fourth Cataract of the Nile. But Ramses expanded that, building a chain of temples and fortresses to secure Egyptian dominance. The most famous of these is Abu Simbel—which we've covered—but there are others, like Wadi es-Sebua and Beit el-Wali, that show how Ramses marketed himself as a god to the local population. Luna: Right, the whole 'I am a living god' propaganda. Did that actually work on the Nubians? Lucas: It seems to have, at least to some extent. The temples were placed at key points along the Nile, and they depicted Ramses making offerings to Egyptian gods, but also sometimes with Nubian deities. At Beit el-Wali, for example, we see scenes of Ramses smiting enemies—probably Nubians—but also of him receiving the symbols of kingship from Amun-Re. It's a very deliberate visual language: I am your pharaoh, your protector, and your divine ruler. Lucas: But the real administrative genius was in the appointment of a Viceroy of Kush—a position that had existed since the 18th Dynasty, but Ramses entrusted to a man named Setau. Setau was incredibly capable, and he oversaw everything from tax collection to temple construction. He even built a rock-cut temple at Wadi es-Sebua, which is dedicated to Amun-Re and Ramses himself. Luna: So Setau was basically the governor of the south. Did he have any autonomy, or was he just a puppet? Lucas: He had significant authority, but he was still a royal appointee. The title 'King's Son of Kush' sounds like a prince, but it was actually a bureaucratic title—Setau wasn't royal blood. He was a trusted official, and he ran the region with a combination of Egyptian administrators and local chiefs. The key was that Nubian elites were co-opted into the system; they could keep their positions if they swore loyalty to Pharaoh. Lucas: And the economic payoff was enormous. The gold mines of the Eastern Desert, especially around Wadi el-Hudi, were worked by Egyptian and Nubian labor. The gold was sent north to Per-Ramesses and used to fund everything—the temples, the army, the diplomatic gifts to the Hittites. Without Nubian gold, Ramses's building program would have been impossible. Luna: Gold definitely greased the wheels of empire. Was there any resistance? Lucas: Oh, absolutely. There were periodic rebellions, especially in the more remote areas. Ramses led at least one campaign into Nubia himself, probably early in his reign, to put down an uprising. The scene at Beit el-Wali shows him in a chariot, shooting arrows at fleeing Nubians. It's classic pharaonic propaganda—the warrior king protecting Egypt's borders. Lucas: But there's also evidence of diplomacy. The Egyptians traded with the more distant Nubian kingdoms, like the land of Yam—which was probably around the Third Cataract. And there's even a possibility that Ramses married a Nubian princess, though the records are unclear. We know he married a Hittite princess, but Nubian marriages would have been politically useful too. Luna: A Nubian wife would have been a smart move. So how did the Nubian culture itself change under Egyptian rule? Lucas: That's a fascinating question. The Nubian elite adopted Egyptian dress, language, and religious practices—they built Egyptian-style tombs and prayed to Egyptian gods. But Nubian culture didn't disappear; it evolved. We see a blend, especially in the kingdom of Kush that emerged later, in the 25th Dynasty. In fact, some scholars argue that Ramses's policies actually laid the groundwork for that later Nubian dynasty, because they Egyptianized the local rulers so thoroughly. Lucas: One of the most interesting sites is Kerma, which was the capital of an earlier Nubian kingdom that the Egyptians had conquered. By Ramses's time, it was a provincial town, but its temples and architecture still show Nubian influences. It's a reminder that these cultures were in constant dialogue, even under occupation. Luna: It's like the Egyptian empire swallowed Nubia, but Nubia also left its mark on Egypt. Lucas: Exactly. And we see that in material culture—things like pottery styles, musical instruments, even some religious ideas. The god Dedun, for instance, was of Nubian origin but was incorporated into the Egyptian pantheon. Ramses built temples to Dedun in Nubia, which was a shrewd move—it showed respect for local beliefs while also subsuming them into the imperial system. Lucas: There's also the fortress at Buhen, which had been an Egyptian stronghold since the Middle Kingdom. By Ramses's time, it was more of a trade hub than a military base. The Egyptians controlled the flow of goods—gold, ivory, ebony, incense, slaves—and they taxed it heavily. The temples themselves were like banks, storing surplus grain and gold, and redistributing it when needed. Luna: So they were administrative centers as well as religious ones. That reminds me—isn't there a famous inscription at Wadi es-Sebua that mentions Setau? Lucas: Yes, there is. It's a dedication text that says Setau built the temple 'for his lord, the king of Upper and Lower Egypt, Usermaatre Setepenre'—that's Ramses's throne name—'so that he might be given life forever.' And it's fascinating because Setau is depicted making offerings to Ramses himself, who is shown as a god. So even the highest official in Nubia was reinforcing the pharaoh's divine status. Lucas: But we should also mention that not all of Nubia was under direct Egyptian control. Beyond the Fourth Cataract was the kingdom of Napata, near modern Gebel Barkal. That area wasn't fully conquered until later, but Ramses certainly exerted influence there. The Gebel Barkal stele of Thutmose III had already claimed it as Egyptian, and Ramses probably maintained some kind of presence. Luna: It's interesting to think about how long Egyptian influence lasted there. The 25th Dynasty pharaohs came from Napata, and they consciously imitated Ramses's style. Lucas: Absolutely. The Kushite pharaohs of the 25th Dynasty—like Piye, Shabaka, and Taharqa—looked back to the New Kingdom as a golden age. They built pyramids at El-Kurru and Nuri that were heavily inspired by Egyptian models, and they used traditional Egyptian titles. In a way, Ramses's Nubian policies created a new Egypt in the south, one that would eventually rule Egypt itself. Lucas: You know, this episode has been really illuminating for me too, because it reminds me that history isn't just about the big battles and famous monuments. It's about systems—how you administer a province, how you manage resources, how you win hearts and minds. And Ramses, for all his bombast, was actually a very practical ruler in Nubia. Luna: Yeah, the practical side is often overlooked. And I think this kind of deep dive is exactly why people listen to this show. Lucas: If today was actually useful to you, the way these stay ad-free is listener support—buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It's a small way to keep these conversations going without commercials. Luna: Yeah, it really makes a difference. Even a couple of coffees a month helps us keep researching and bringing you these stories. Lucas: So, back to Nubia—one question that often comes up is the chronology of Ramses's Nubian campaigns. We know there was at least one major campaign early in his reign, but some scholars argue there were multiple campaigns over decades. The problem is that the Egyptian records are often vague; they don't always give specific years. But the temples themselves provide clues, because they were built in phases. Luna: So archaeology can help fill in the gaps? Lucas: Exactly. For example, the temple at Beit el-Wali was probably built early in Ramses's reign, maybe around Year 3 or 4, because it shows him as a young king. The larger temple at Wadi es-Sebua came later, around Year 30 or so. That suggests the southern frontier was stable enough by then to justify a major temple project. Lucas: And then there's the temple at Gerf Hussein, which was actually built by a viceroy named Iuny, who preceded Setau. That temple is dedicated to Ramses as a god, and it shows that the divine pharaoh cult was already well established in Nubia by the middle of his reign. So the pattern is clear: first, military conquest, then consolidation, then temple-building, then economic exploitation. Luna: It's a textbook example of imperial strategy. Did the Nubians ever mount a serious challenge that threatened Egyptian control? Lucas: There were uprisings, but none that expelled the Egyptians. The most serious seems to have been around Year 20, when a local chief named—unfortunately, we don't have his name—led a revolt. Ramses sent an army, probably under Setau, that crushed it. After that, the region was relatively quiet for the rest of Ramses's reign. The real trouble came later, during the 20th Dynasty, when Egyptian control weakened. Lucas: But even then, the legacy of Ramses's Nubian policy persisted. The administrative structures, the temples, the cultural blending—they all outlasted his empire. When the New Kingdom collapsed, Nubia became independent again, but it was an Egyptized Nubia. And that, in a sense, was Ramses's greatest achievement: he didn't just conquer Nubia, he made it part of the Egyptian world. Luna: So the 'Great' in his name applies to his southern policy as much as anything else. Lucas: I think so. The Hittite treaty gets all the attention, but the Nubian frontier was where the real, lasting impact was made. It's a reminder that sometimes the quieter parts of history are the most transformative.