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“OpenAI’s Model Hacked Us” - Hugging Face’s Thomas Wolf
An OpenAI-powered agent penetrated Hugging Face during cyber testing - even though it was never tasked with attacking Hugging Face. It did it as a side quest.
Thomas Wolf, co-founder and Chief Science Officer of Hugging Face, joins Matt Turck to unpack what actually happened, why closed AI models refused to help during the live incident, how an open-source model helped the team fight back, and why the old equation of “closed equals safe, open equals dangerous” no longer holds.
They also discuss model deception and social engineering, the limits of sandboxes and guardrails, the state of…
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