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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number
- 0:04Speaker 1: eighty seven of the so called sports analyst Josh. How
- 0:07Speaker 1: you doing well.
- 0:08Speaker 2: We're in the greatest tight end of all times podcasts today, boys,
- 0:12Speaker 2: the Travis Kelsey Podcast. No, No, No, Travis Kelsey's Podcast
- 0:18Speaker 2: number eighty seven. I'm doing great. I'm doing amazing, Hollywood Brown,
- 0:24Speaker 2: That's all I gotta say. We're gonna get into it.
- 0:27Speaker 2: We're gonna get into it. You know, it's a good week.
- 0:29Speaker 2: It's Christmas Eve. We're getting these episodes in, so it's
- 0:33Speaker 2: a last week. Sorry about that, you know, busy schedule
- 0:36Speaker 2: Christmas cut, couldn't make time for a for a pick
- 0:40Speaker 2: the podcast. But you know, honestly, I'm not doing great.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Fantasy football went pretty bad. Fantasy Fantasy football went complete
- 0:48Speaker 2: opposite direction. I am not in a single championship. Guys.
- 0:52Speaker 2: This is the first time in my life in the
- 0:54Speaker 2: last four years, I have not won a fantasy football
- 0:56Speaker 2: I won't win a fantasy football championship.
- 0:58Speaker 1: I'm right there with you.
- 1:00Speaker 2: I wouldn't know. It feels. It feels weird to be
- 1:02Speaker 2: a loser, you know, Like I know a lot of
- 1:04Speaker 2: you that listen to this podcast are losers, and I'm
- 1:06Speaker 2: not a loser in my life. I'm a winner. I'm
- 1:09Speaker 2: a winner and I didn't win this year. So I
- 1:11Speaker 2: feel y'all's pain. Yeah.
- 1:13Speaker 1: No, if you had to go against Jonathan Taylor or
- 1:16Speaker 1: you started jailing.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Hurts or Jonathan Taylor, oh my.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Goodness, for who was it?
- 1:24Speaker 2: Aaron Jones, Bucky Bucky Irving. It's not a bad pinch.
- 1:29Speaker 2: It's not a bad bench. It's not a bad bench, bro.
- 1:33Speaker 2: But the thing is, I should have subbed Cooper Cup
- 1:35Speaker 2: out and put Jonathan Taylor where Cooper Cup was. But
- 1:38Speaker 2: that's not even a bad pinch either. That's not a
- 1:40Speaker 2: bad bench either. Bro. Like, it's like when you have options.
- 1:43Speaker 2: When you have options, sometimes you pick the wrong ones.
- 1:50Speaker 2: It's like relationships, you know, sometimes you get a baddie
- 1:52Speaker 2: a couple of times, but you picked the four, you
- 1:54Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So it's like, it's it happened
- 1:57Speaker 2: that way.
- 1:59Speaker 1: It's part of it. It's part of it. But all right,
- 2:01Speaker 1: let's go ahead and get this thing started. You guys
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- 2:21Speaker 1: Use our code TSCSA get ten percent off. But all right,
- 2:25Speaker 1: let's go ahead and get into it. But let me
- 2:26Speaker 1: talk about this playoff picture real quick that we have updated.
- 2:30Speaker 1: So there's only a few teams left in the NFC
- 2:32Speaker 1: that could clinch a playoff spot, because there's already four
- 2:35Speaker 1: spots clinched. So that's Alliance, the Eagles, the Vikings, and
- 2:39Speaker 1: the Packers as of yesterday, and then teams that are
- 2:43Speaker 1: in the hunt right now. The only five is the Rams, Falcons, Commanders,
- 2:46Speaker 1: and then the teams on the outside looking in the
- 2:48Speaker 1: Bucks and Seahawks. The AFC is pretty much locked up
- 2:52Speaker 1: at this point. You have the Chiefs, Bill Stillers, Texans
- 2:55Speaker 1: and Ravens, and these last two spots the Chargers and Broncos,
- 2:59Speaker 1: and the three teams on the outside end Colt, Stolphins
- 3:02Speaker 1: and Bengals right here. But now that we got that said,
- 3:05Speaker 1: let's go with this first game, right here that happened
- 3:07Speaker 1: yesterday Monday Night Football, the Green Bay Packers versus the
- 3:10Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints Packers. They win thirty four to zero,
- 3:14Speaker 1: clinch up that home or that playoff spot. Like I
- 3:16Speaker 1: was mentioning any takeaways from this one.
- 3:20Speaker 2: No, I think this is an expected win for the Packers.
- 3:23Speaker 2: Spencer Radler came in to this game. It just didn't
- 3:26Speaker 2: look too hot from the start. He made a couple
- 3:28Speaker 2: of crazy throws, but it is. It's just didn't matter.
- 3:31Speaker 2: The Packers dominated from start to finish, went down the
- 3:33Speaker 2: field quite easily. Dantavianwick's touchdown, it was just like that
- 3:37Speaker 2: the rest of the way. So there's not really much
- 3:40Speaker 2: gauge off of this. The Packers are one of the
- 3:41Speaker 2: top teams in the NFC. They're fighting for that honestly,
- 3:44Speaker 2: for a really good spot in the in the playoff
- 3:47Speaker 2: because I think the Lions are going to lock up
- 3:49Speaker 2: this division. But the Packers also are looking to finish
- 3:54Speaker 2: with around that fifth seed. So yeah, it's between them
- 3:56Speaker 2: and the Vikings. So every win counts right now.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. And I'm gonna say this one
- 4:01Speaker 1: thing I could take away from the Packers, I don't
- 4:03Speaker 1: know if you feel like this, Josh, I feel like
- 4:05Speaker 1: the Packers they're the best team as far as on script.
- 4:08Speaker 1: You always expect them out of the first time to
- 4:11Speaker 1: get the ball on offense, and in the second half
- 4:13Speaker 1: they always go down the field and at least get
- 4:16Speaker 1: field goals, let alone touchdowns. I don't know the exact
- 4:19Speaker 1: stat but I know it popped up somewhere where the Packers.
- 4:23Speaker 1: As far as on opening drives, they've gotten points every
- 4:26Speaker 1: single time this season. I believe I could be wrong
- 4:28Speaker 1: on that, but it's been something along those lines. They're
- 4:31Speaker 1: just the best on script team. But yeah, I know,
- 4:34Speaker 1: like you were saying, they need to keep up with
- 4:36Speaker 1: the Vikings here and they play the Vikings. They play
- 4:38Speaker 1: the Vikings next week actually, so it's gonna be a
- 4:40Speaker 1: big test. Saints. Nothing to take away their album, Kamara's out.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Nobody's fantasy football relevant in this one, But all right,
- 4:48Speaker 1: next one, let's get into Sunday Night football. Dallas Cowboys
- 4:52Speaker 1: versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Buccaneers controlled their own destiny.
- 4:55Speaker 1: If they won out, they'll to control the NFC South.
- 4:58Speaker 1: But they lost to the Cowboys, who we're eliminated from
- 5:00Speaker 1: the playoffs. Twenty six, twenty four. Any takeaways from this one.
- 5:06Speaker 2: The Buccaneers I think really missed an opportunity right here
- 5:08Speaker 2: to take hold of the division. This is a game
- 5:10Speaker 2: they should have won. It's not like they were out
- 5:12Speaker 2: of it. They were really moving the ball down the
- 5:14Speaker 2: field when they needed to. Just a couple of big
- 5:16Speaker 2: plays like one from Jordan Lewis with the interception. It
- 5:20Speaker 2: just it never panned out. Mike Evans drop, the Mike
- 5:23Speaker 2: Evans drop he had, he did get popped, but you
- 5:25Speaker 2: do know you need to do you bring that ball in.
- 5:28Speaker 2: So the Buccaneers missed a lot of opportunities. I mean,
- 5:30Speaker 2: the Cowboys have stepped up quite a bit, but it
- 5:32Speaker 2: seems like too little, too late. That's really what it
- 5:34Speaker 2: feels like for the Dallas Cowboys. This defense got healthy
- 5:37Speaker 2: at the wrong time and it's really hurting them. But
- 5:40Speaker 2: I think this shows a lot of signs of life
- 5:42Speaker 2: of what they could be. But they are playing. I mean,
- 5:44Speaker 2: you don't ever want your team to start losing, but
- 5:46Speaker 2: you know, when you don't make the playoffs, i'mretty sure
- 5:48Speaker 2: you want a good draft pick, and right now they're
- 5:50Speaker 2: kind of playing into the hands of the others. Into
- 5:53Speaker 2: the into like the mid teens. I think right now
- 5:55Speaker 2: where right now? So it's uh, that's that's that sucks
- 5:59Speaker 2: a little bit, but hey, you play the game to win,
- 6:01Speaker 2: but the Buccaneer side, you play the game to win,
- 6:03Speaker 2: and you did not win this one, and it hurts
- 6:05Speaker 2: you a lot because the Falcons have it's a tied
- 6:07Speaker 2: up division right now, and I think I don't know
- 6:10Speaker 2: what the both team's schedules are looking like to end
- 6:12Speaker 2: the season, but it's gonna come down to it. You
- 6:16Speaker 2: have to win out basically, and the Falcons have to
- 6:18Speaker 2: drop one to be where you were at because I
- 6:21Speaker 2: believe that the Buccaneers are a problem, but you can't
- 6:23Speaker 2: have games like this where you slip.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Up and like you were saying, I'm gonna start with
- 6:27Speaker 1: the Cowboys front here, I just think that the Dallas
- 6:30Speaker 1: Cowboys defense, like you were saying, they got healthy at
- 6:34Speaker 1: the wrong time and now it's just your secondary, is there.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, who deserves an All Pro I said this.
- 6:40Speaker 1: I don't know if I said this to you, but
- 6:41Speaker 1: I said he should get some All Pro recognition. Now.
- 6:44Speaker 1: He is Micah Parsons fourth player ever to get fifty sacks,
- 6:47Speaker 1: in his first four years. So this defense is just
- 6:50Speaker 1: a force to be reckoned with. And we could have
- 6:53Speaker 1: been on a five game win streak, including the Cincinnati Bengals,
- 6:57Speaker 1: if it wasn't for that punp return from a mon
- 7:01Speaker 1: So this team has been hot as of lately, and
- 7:03Speaker 1: they're just playing spoilers now. And like you're saying, I
- 7:06Speaker 1: know you kind of want your team to lose, but
- 7:09Speaker 1: I think this is a good sign going into next
- 7:11Speaker 1: season because it carries a little bit of momentum, if
- 7:14Speaker 1: that makes sense, and you're just fighting for the culture
- 7:17Speaker 1: and then the pride of the team, so you can
- 7:19Speaker 1: start off better next year. But the Buccaneers, I just
- 7:22Speaker 1: think that their main problem is that I think they
- 7:25Speaker 1: just got away from the run a little bit too
- 7:27Speaker 1: quick here. And I know you were down nine points here,
- 7:30Speaker 1: but Bucky Ever and Rashad White, we've been talking about that, Josh.
- 7:34Speaker 1: That's been their best thing as of late, as far
- 7:36Speaker 1: as running the football and controlling and not having to
- 7:40Speaker 1: rely too much on Baker, not because Baker's bad, but
- 7:43Speaker 1: because it's been effective. And twenty three carries compared to
- 7:47Speaker 1: forty three passing attempts. There's your problem there, ye split. Yeah, exactly.
- 7:52Speaker 1: And now look you're on the outside looking in the Falcons.
- 7:56Speaker 1: I know they have a tough game next week. I
- 7:58Speaker 1: forgot exactly who it is the Buccaneers. They have the
- 8:00Speaker 1: Panthers and the Saints coming up. Let me look at
- 8:02Speaker 1: the Falcon schedule real quick, because I yeah, they play
- 8:06Speaker 1: the Commanders next week Sunday night football, So you still
- 8:09Speaker 1: do have a shot. But still, all right, let's get
- 8:13Speaker 1: it to this next one. Miami Dolphins versus the San
- 8:16Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine Ers. Dolphins, they win twenty nine to seventeen,
- 8:20Speaker 1: keep their playoff hopes alive. Niners are officially eliminated from
- 8:24Speaker 1: the playoffs after this one. Any takeaways.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Yeah, this made me regret trading to Von Agen because
- 8:29Speaker 2: I would be sitting in the championship right now for
- 8:31Speaker 2: Dynasty if I still had them on my football team.
- 8:33Speaker 2: But it's okay, I we live, we learn, we move on.
- 8:37Speaker 2: How you do and keep it moving. But no, I
- 8:39Speaker 2: think the Dolphins right now, they're definitely looking like a
- 8:42Speaker 2: scary team that you may not want to play in
- 8:44Speaker 2: the first round of the playoffs, and I'm kind of
- 8:46Speaker 2: hoping they do, because they do make the playoffs. Because
- 8:49Speaker 2: that means they will probably play the Buffalo Bills, and
- 8:52Speaker 2: if they beat the Buffalo Bills and eliminate them, and
- 8:54Speaker 2: Miami Travels want to get into Kansas City to play
- 8:57Speaker 2: in that cold weather. I know New Arm two and
- 9:00Speaker 2: do nothing, so I respect that they're playing hard. Devon eighteen,
- 9:05Speaker 2: like I said, had a big day. Jonu Smith is
- 9:07Speaker 2: having a career resurgence in in Miami, but that just
- 9:11Speaker 2: happens in the high powered passing offense. Tyreek didn't look
- 9:14Speaker 2: too hot in this one, but it is good to
- 9:16Speaker 2: see that they are starting to pick it up at
- 9:17Speaker 2: the right time, because it is the right time to
- 9:19Speaker 2: pick it up. Two games left in the season is
- 9:21Speaker 2: now or nothing? Really, as far as the forty nine ers,
- 9:24Speaker 2: like we were talking about, just looks like a team
- 9:26Speaker 2: that's defeated, looks like a team that's just there needs
- 9:29Speaker 2: to be a reset in this in this team is
- 9:31Speaker 2: I get the stats are there, George Kittlestats look nice
- 9:34Speaker 2: in this one, Doe Bo Samuel stats look nice in
- 9:36Speaker 2: this final even but it's it doesn't matter. I think
- 9:40Speaker 2: there's a point where sure it looks good, but there
- 9:43Speaker 2: has to be something different. There has to be a
- 9:44Speaker 2: new element to this football team. And I think in
- 9:47Speaker 2: this one the no run game was shown. But it
- 9:51Speaker 2: it hurts. It hurts this team a lot when when
- 9:53Speaker 2: you lose like they have been losing the last couple
- 9:55Speaker 2: of years. This season just looks like the the unfolding
- 9:59Speaker 2: of all that.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Yeah, and one thing I don't want to hear is
- 10:02Speaker 1: as far as the injuries they've derailed the forty nine ers.
- 10:05Speaker 1: Ever team has injuries, Every team has injuries, and they've
- 10:08Speaker 1: dealt with this before. And you cannot say this game,
- 10:11Speaker 1: I know you didn't have Christian McCaffrey, but you had
- 10:13Speaker 1: Brock Purty, deebo Sama, you had George Kittle, you had
- 10:16Speaker 1: Fred Warner, you had Nick Bolson in this game right here,
- 10:19Speaker 1: and you still found a way to lose this game.
- 10:21Speaker 1: And I just think they need a complete reset. Brock
- 10:24Speaker 1: Purdy personally me, I would not pay him the sixty
- 10:27Speaker 1: million dollars that he wants. I think that it's gonna
- 10:30Speaker 1: be an overpaying that's gonna say your team back. I
- 10:32Speaker 1: think that's gonna be some Daniel Jones type of stuff
- 10:36Speaker 1: right there where it sets you back two three years.
- 10:39Speaker 1: But at this point they're trapped in a position where
- 10:42Speaker 1: they have to because they have the thirteenth overall pick,
- 10:46Speaker 1: and unless you trade up, unless you trade up, I
- 10:49Speaker 1: can't see that happening. But the Dolphins, Josh, I know
- 10:53Speaker 1: they're doing better as of late. But this Dolphins team,
- 10:56Speaker 1: even if they make the playoffs, I don't think they're
- 10:58Speaker 1: gonna be real.
- 10:59Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna be much happening. But I
- 11:02Speaker 2: hope so, but I hope.
- 11:03Speaker 1: So. It sounds like you're a little bit afraid of Buffalo.
- 11:07Speaker 2: It'll just be the easier matchup.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'm just wondering.
- 11:11Speaker 2: I don't need my I don't need my goat Mahomes
- 11:13Speaker 2: doing another thirteen second comeback and ruining Josh Hart's on
- 11:17Speaker 2: Josh Harts, like freaking we were talking about basketball. We
- 11:20Speaker 2: were talking about basketball before this part. Bro, No, I
- 11:23Speaker 2: don't need him. I just it just gets old. It
- 11:26Speaker 2: just gets old being the same team every year. Like I,
- 11:28Speaker 2: let's make it a new thing with the Dolphins. You know, so,
- 11:31Speaker 2: you know so, So I'm just tired of seeing Josh
- 11:33Speaker 2: Allen's patty face on the sideline after at the end
- 11:36Speaker 2: of every playoffs every year. So you know, I'd just
- 11:39Speaker 2: rather see us see two is Poudy face on the
- 11:42Speaker 2: sideline right now. So it's just like that's all it is.
- 11:44Speaker 2: That's all it is. No no fear, just a matter
- 11:47Speaker 2: of same old thing, you know. It just feels like
- 11:49Speaker 2: a tradition at this point, you know, like repetition, you know.
- 11:53Speaker 2: So yeah, that's all it feels like right now.
- 11:55Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, Well let's go ahead and talk
- 11:58Speaker 1: about this Bills team right here. The Bills they play
- 12:00Speaker 1: it against the New England Patriots and they won twenty
- 12:02Speaker 1: four to twenty one. A close game. Bills, they go
- 12:06Speaker 1: to twelve and three, seven or no at home right
- 12:08Speaker 1: now and still fighting for a shot for the one seed.
- 12:11Speaker 1: And I don't know if you saw the postgame presser,
- 12:14Speaker 1: Josh Allen, they said that they're saving plays for the postseason.
- 12:18Speaker 1: They don't want to use up any of their good
- 12:21Speaker 1: plays for the regular season since they're in playoff territory
- 12:24Speaker 1: fighting for that one seed. So, first, what do you
- 12:27Speaker 1: take away from the game? Second, how do you feel
- 12:29Speaker 1: about that?
- 12:31Speaker 2: I think this was kind of almost a scary game
- 12:33Speaker 2: for the Bills. I don't think that's true. I mean,
- 12:34Speaker 2: you're trying to play for the one seed, right now, Like,
- 12:37Speaker 2: come on, and you're playing a divisional rival who you
- 12:39Speaker 2: know is going to play you hard no matter what,
- 12:41Speaker 2: and they have nothing to lose. The Patriots have nothing
- 12:43Speaker 2: to lose, like they're gonna come out here and play hard.
- 12:45Speaker 2: So you have to secure this win to lock up
- 12:50Speaker 2: a one seed and you're competing with the Chiefs beause
- 12:52Speaker 2: I don't think you want to go to Arrowhead to
- 12:54Speaker 2: play in the playoff for for sure. It's so I
- 12:58Speaker 2: don't believe that. I don't buy that one bit because
- 13:00Speaker 2: this is just a rough game. This happens to the
- 13:02Speaker 2: divisional games, and I think that's we harp on this
- 13:04Speaker 2: every single podcast about divisional matchups, like no matter how
- 13:07Speaker 2: good your football team is, these teams know you the best,
- 13:09Speaker 2: and that's that's That's just what happened in this one.
- 13:13Speaker 2: Josh Allen had had one of his honestly his worst
- 13:18Speaker 2: game of the season, probably the worst end of the
- 13:20Speaker 2: season right here, and it hurts his MVP chances quite
- 13:23Speaker 2: a bit. Because we were talking last night, Lamar Jackson's
- 13:26Speaker 2: really working his way up there, and it's all right,
- 13:29Speaker 2: you can win those no championships, cool with me, But
- 13:33Speaker 2: Josh Allen, I just think that maybe they underestimate their
- 13:38Speaker 2: opponent in this one quite a bit.
- 13:39Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know for sure, I think so too.
- 13:42Speaker 1: But as far as them saving plays, honestly, I do
- 13:46Speaker 1: buy it just a little bit. I'm I'm buying it.
- 13:48Speaker 2: I mean I buy it too because the Chiefs back
- 13:51Speaker 2: to back defending the back to back definishing the world
- 13:53Speaker 2: champions do that, So you.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Know, I I do buy that right there, because I
- 13:58Speaker 1: don't know, I just think it's a little bit scary
- 14:00Speaker 1: that New England they got out fourteen to zero on
- 14:02Speaker 1: the Bills. That's something you don't want to see, especially
- 14:06Speaker 1: if you're down seven zero. It's like, all right, let's
- 14:08Speaker 1: pull out, let's pull out some of the plays right here,
- 14:10Speaker 1: you know what I mean, get back, get back to normal,
- 14:13Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But they're running the football,
- 14:16Speaker 1: and honestly, I can't take away nothing from the Bills
- 14:19Speaker 1: now because the Bills the last four years going into
- 14:22Speaker 1: the playoffs, they've been on a seven game win streak,
- 14:24Speaker 1: a four game win streak, a five game win streak,
- 14:26Speaker 1: a six game win streak, So they've been on these
- 14:28Speaker 1: hot streaks going into the playoffs, like you should be.
- 14:31Speaker 1: But it hasn't mattered. You've lost to the Chiefs, you
- 14:34Speaker 1: lost to the Bengals, you lost to all these teams.
- 14:37Speaker 1: So the Dolphins. Yeah, so it really, it really doesn't matter.
- 14:42Speaker 1: If this makes sense, And yeah, Josh Allen, Lamar's right there,
- 14:48Speaker 1: Lamar is right there.
- 14:49Speaker 2: All on.
- 14:49Speaker 1: I know we're gonna talk about in predictions. But if
- 14:53Speaker 1: Lamar he has a special Christmas Day, like a vintage
- 14:56Speaker 1: Christmas Day Lamar Jackson game against the Texans, what I'm
- 15:00Speaker 1: saying that that might be Lamar's for the taken because
- 15:03Speaker 1: Lamar has better stats than Josh Allen. That that's all
- 15:06Speaker 1: I'm saying. As far as the Patriots side, Drake May
- 15:10Speaker 1: He's gonna be a great quarterback for a long time.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Some of these throws that he was making, like that
- 15:15Speaker 1: back shoulder throw the Kayshaun booty man, that's that's my
- 15:22Speaker 1: home stuff. That's Josh Allen, That's that's that kind of
- 15:24Speaker 1: stuff right there. But and they have a second overall pick. Okay,
- 15:31Speaker 1: Travis Millan, Travis Hunter, and Christian Gonzales as your corner.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Will be nice, would be nice, would be nice, bro, bro.
- 15:39Speaker 2: But the question is, Okay, this is this is the
- 15:41Speaker 2: biggest disconnect I have with I mean, I'm thinking fantasy football.
- 15:44Speaker 2: I don't know why, but Travis Hunter, right I think
- 15:48Speaker 2: he's leaning towards the cornerback position right now. Okay, are
- 15:52Speaker 2: you drafting Travis Hunter and fantasy football? Hell?
- 15:56Speaker 1: No, as somebody, as somebody who has a first overall
- 16:00Speaker 1: pick in dynasty. No, I'm not drafting Travis Hunter.
- 16:04Speaker 2: There's too much of a risk. Yeah, there's too much
- 16:06Speaker 2: of a risk.
- 16:07Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care if he ends up
- 16:09Speaker 1: being uh. I feel like he's gonna, like you said,
- 16:12Speaker 1: more dB, if he ends up being a good wide
- 16:14Speaker 1: receiater puts up eight hundred yards four touchdowns. I feel
- 16:18Speaker 1: like that's best case scenario. That's that's not good fantasy football.
- 16:22Speaker 1: That's not good. No way, because Teriota, McMillan, I Meka Buca,
- 16:27Speaker 1: Luther Burden, those three guys, those three guys fantasy football wise,
- 16:32Speaker 1: I will take over Travis Hunter.
- 16:34Speaker 2: I would. No, I agree, I completely agree. But Travis
- 16:39Speaker 2: I think I think at that number two spot, I think,
- 16:41Speaker 2: do you bring in a weapon for your quarterback or
- 16:43Speaker 2: do you add to the defense. And that's the new
- 16:45Speaker 2: that's gonna be the I think that's gonna be the
- 16:46Speaker 2: signal what the new Patriots are. I think because Travis
- 16:50Speaker 2: Hunter line up, line him up across from Christians Aults.
- 16:53Speaker 2: I think that's one of the best ones.
- 16:55Speaker 1: On Travis Hunter. Can you if you're the Patriots?
- 16:58Speaker 2: I mean, but Milan's gonna be right there, man, because
- 17:03Speaker 2: I think this is gonna come down to the combine.
- 17:06Speaker 2: You think so, mm hmmm.
- 17:08Speaker 1: I think Travis Henry he's gonna run like a sub
- 17:10Speaker 1: for three. I think he is. If that's the case in.
- 17:16Speaker 2: I think. Okay, I was.
- 17:17Speaker 1: I was looking at this other day. Terro to McMillan.
- 17:20Speaker 1: He has some like Nico Collins type that.
- 17:23Speaker 2: He's nice bro.
- 17:24Speaker 1: He's like a Nico Collins type build. But all right,
- 17:27Speaker 1: speaking of draft capital right here, I just want to
- 17:29Speaker 1: ask you a little bit about it. So Raiders, they
- 17:31Speaker 1: beat the Jaguars, they had the number one overall pick,
- 17:34Speaker 1: and now they fall all the way to number six.
- 17:37Speaker 1: So is this I know you get victories there's you're
- 17:43Speaker 1: supposed to win in the football or in the NFL.
- 17:46Speaker 1: But did them winning this football game right here cost
- 17:49Speaker 1: them five six.
- 17:51Speaker 2: Years down the road?
- 17:52Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 17:53Speaker 2: Cost them to Deer Sanders. Yep. They did, maybe it
- 17:57Speaker 2: costs them. You know what's crazy, People don't realize how
- 18:00Speaker 2: good Shadir Sanders is. I don't like I've been hearing
- 18:05Speaker 2: so much, like they think he's overrated, like that he
- 18:08Speaker 2: played in the Big Twelve. You know who played in
- 18:09Speaker 2: the Big twelve. Patrick Mahomes played in the Big Twelve.
- 18:12Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about that. Like they're just like, yeah,
- 18:16Speaker 2: Kyle of all these yea, all these guys played in
- 18:18Speaker 2: the Big Twelve. But it's just like I'm just thinking, like, dude,
- 18:24Speaker 2: he had the best touchdown of interception ratio from a
- 18:27Speaker 2: pressured quarterback, Like the most pressured quarterback had the best
- 18:30Speaker 2: touchdown of interception ratio. He doesn't turn the ball over,
- 18:33Speaker 2: and the types of throws he makes are on the money,
- 18:36Speaker 2: Like they're like he can be better on his anticipation throws,
- 18:39Speaker 2: but at the same time, they're hitting the receivers in
- 18:42Speaker 2: the hands, in the chest every single time, like there's
- 18:44Speaker 2: there's no point, Like he's only putting it to where
- 18:46Speaker 2: his guy can get it, and like he may lack
- 18:50Speaker 2: the athletic ability of some quarterbacks, but he can throw
- 18:54Speaker 2: with yeah, but he can throw with the best of them.
- 18:56Speaker 2: Like it's that's as simple as that. Yeah, I don't know.
- 19:00Speaker 2: I feel like they hates a little bit, a little bit.
- 19:01Speaker 2: The people are saying cam Ward, I'm not taking cam
- 19:03Speaker 2: Ward over should you hear Sanders.
- 19:04Speaker 1: I don't understand people taking cam WARDO over Shador either. Yes,
- 19:08Speaker 1: cam Ward, he's a lot more mobile. I think cam
- 19:11Speaker 1: Ward the best way I could put it, he has
- 19:15Speaker 1: that like he's closer to like I'm putting this to
- 19:18Speaker 1: the rookie draft class this year, to like the Jaden
- 19:20Speaker 1: Daniels where he has a rushing up side, but as
- 19:23Speaker 1: far as like Shadur Sanders, as far as a pure
- 19:25Speaker 1: pocket passer, he's like the Drake May the Caleb Williams,
- 19:28Speaker 1: those guys. But he can still move around like those guys. Yeah,
- 19:32Speaker 1: And I don't know, it just all it just all
- 19:34Speaker 1: depends on situation. For me. I think Shadur, yes, he
- 19:38Speaker 1: would go ahead.
- 19:39Speaker 2: With the with the Raiders be moving to six, put
- 19:42Speaker 2: them in contingent for like a Jackson Dark Like, do
- 19:45Speaker 2: you think Jackson Dart's gonna rise because fit for a team,
- 19:48Speaker 2: Because they kind of missed on Tier Wilson, Tyry Wilson
- 19:50Speaker 2: didn't turn out to be good at all, And maybe
- 19:52Speaker 2: they want to pair up another because there's a lot
- 19:54Speaker 2: of good defensive ends in this draft. Maybe you want
- 19:56Speaker 2: to prepare up Max Crowby. But I don't know. I
- 19:58Speaker 2: feel like this offsetion is gonna tell a lot what
- 19:59Speaker 2: Mack Crosby wants to do in his career.
- 20:01Speaker 1: Yeah, no for sure, and him having that surgery, I'm
- 20:04Speaker 1: not sure, but I'll say this, this is how I
- 20:07Speaker 1: feel like every team should go into the draft unless
- 20:09Speaker 1: it's a if it's not a quarterback, go best player available.
- 20:12Speaker 1: You have to. You have to go best player available,
- 20:15Speaker 1: because if you go for fit, you're gonna end up
- 20:17Speaker 1: screwing yourself over in the in the past few years,
- 20:20Speaker 1: I think the only guys they should draft at number six,
- 20:23Speaker 1: if he's there, is cam Ward Shader Sanders, and maybe
- 20:28Speaker 1: Johnson Will Johnson. But as far as quarterback.
- 20:33Speaker 2: As far as quarterback, quarterback, quarterback.
- 20:34Speaker 1: OKA quarterback, you could argue Jackson Dart, maybe you could
- 20:39Speaker 1: argue Jalen Milroe, but I'm not that bought in on
- 20:42Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe. But but other than that, the rest of
- 20:45Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, No, no, you don't. You don't reach for
- 20:48Speaker 1: any of those guys because they'll be They'll be Will Johnson,
- 20:51Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, Terry Ota McMillan. There'll be those three guys.
- 20:54Speaker 1: One of those guys are gonna fall to you because
- 20:56Speaker 1: there's gonna be honestly, watch watch the Raiders or watch
- 21:01Speaker 1: somebody end up drafting like Quinn Ewers or Jackson or
- 21:05Speaker 1: Carson Beck.
- 21:05Speaker 2: Hey, Quinn might be going to North Carolina.
- 21:08Speaker 1: That's that's true. That that wouldn't be too bad.
- 21:11Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie Bill Billy with some Quinn eewrs. Bro.
- 21:14Speaker 2: He's gonna make a move. They did you see that.
- 21:16Speaker 2: He's gonna make a move for both arch and Quinn,
- 21:18Speaker 2: Like one of them is gonna end up going.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Like if Bill Belichick gets arch Man, I don't know
- 21:26Speaker 1: if you saw he already got two five stars from
- 21:28Speaker 1: Bama and.
- 21:30Speaker 2: He transferred in. He transferred in like this really good
- 21:32Speaker 2: center from but he but I think he signed a quarterback,
- 21:38Speaker 2: like the number one rate quarter No, No, that was
- 21:39Speaker 2: that was that was that was that was Colorado. No,
- 21:43Speaker 2: but he signed a top ranked quarterback like I forgot,
- 21:46Speaker 2: like I forgot who was? Like he shot a five
- 21:49Speaker 2: star quarterback.
- 21:50Speaker 1: They're gonna be up there, They're gonna be up there.
- 21:52Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
- 21:53Speaker 2: They're gonna play for Bill Belichick.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Bro oh yeah, just a pedigree there. And then he
- 21:57Speaker 1: could say seven seven, seven super Bowls or eight eight,
- 22:02Speaker 1: eight super.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Bowls, nine super Bowls, No, he has six. He has
- 22:07Speaker 2: eight super Bowls, six super Bowls with and then head
- 22:09Speaker 2: goes with the two as a defensive corner. Yeah, to
- 22:11Speaker 2: the defensive corner.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Say eight super bowls. Just come play for me. That's it.
- 22:16Speaker 2: I'm I'm Bill Belichick.
- 22:18Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all I've got to say. He's got that,
- 22:21Speaker 1: He's got the nick saban aora already.
- 22:23Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's move on. We went into a
- 22:25Speaker 2: whole another.
- 22:25Speaker 1: Like, yeah, a whole different tangent right here. All right,
- 22:28Speaker 1: next game right here, Minnesota Vikings versus the Seattle Seahawks.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Vikings they win twenty seven to twenty four in this
- 22:34Speaker 1: game right here, and Vikings are still up to par
- 22:37Speaker 1: with the Lions. It's clashing up for that last game
- 22:40Speaker 1: the week eighteen Lions versus Vikings for the one seed
- 22:43Speaker 1: as of right now. So what do you take away
- 22:46Speaker 1: from this game?
- 22:50Speaker 2: The best receiver in football play for the Minnesota Vikings.
- 22:52Speaker 2: That's what I'm taking away from this game is that
- 22:54Speaker 2: justin Jefferson ten reception, one hundred forty four yards and
- 22:56Speaker 2: two touchdowns, there's no one better. The only one to
- 22:58Speaker 2: argument I'm willing to take right now, and it's just
- 23:00Speaker 2: crazy to stay is Jamar Chase. And I don't. I
- 23:02Speaker 2: was coming out of my mouth. Okay, okay, let's let's
- 23:06Speaker 2: not get ahead of ourselves here, children, And it's it's
- 23:08Speaker 2: justin Jefferson's world we live in. That's all I'm saying.
- 23:10Speaker 2: It's justin Jefferson's world that we live in. And so
- 23:13Speaker 2: I think the Vikings, it's it's gonna be tough, it's
- 23:16Speaker 2: gonna be it's gonna be interesting if the Vikings end
- 23:19Speaker 2: up with the one seed, because.
- 23:20Speaker 1: It's gonna I think interesting.
- 23:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know, like that's gonna change
- 23:25Speaker 2: the landscape with a lot of things because I think.
- 23:28Speaker 2: I think. So the Vikings get the one seed, so
- 23:30Speaker 2: that means the Lions and Eagles are probably gonna end
- 23:32Speaker 2: up playing each other in the divisional so it's gonna
- 23:37Speaker 2: someone and then.
- 23:39Speaker 1: Then you have the Vikings versus the Packers or the Rams.
- 23:44Speaker 2: But the Vikings don't want the Packers. I know they
- 23:46Speaker 2: don't want to see the Packers.
- 23:47Speaker 1: In the and this week they play them this week.
- 23:51Speaker 2: Yeah, true, dude. The Vikings lose two divisional games in
- 23:56Speaker 2: a row, that's gonna hurt I mean, it is gonna
- 23:58Speaker 2: hurt them. They're not gonna make They're not gonna be
- 24:00Speaker 2: They're gonna end up with the fifth, with the sixth
- 24:02Speaker 2: or seventh seeds.
- 24:03Speaker 1: They with the sixth seed, yeah, because they got for
- 24:06Speaker 1: sure the the six five or the one seed, which
- 24:09Speaker 1: is crazy because if the Packers they went out and
- 24:12Speaker 1: the Vikings lose out, Vikings go to six, Vikings go
- 24:16Speaker 1: to six, Packers go to five. But if Vikings went out,
- 24:19Speaker 1: they get the one seed. No Packers. They can't jump
- 24:22Speaker 1: the Lions. Yeah, damn imagine imagine finishing fourteen and three
- 24:28Speaker 1: and end up being on the road. You know, I
- 24:32Speaker 1: don't know when's the last time that's happened before. I
- 24:34Speaker 1: don't think that's ever happened before.
- 24:37Speaker 2: It has never happened, bro.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Yeah, no way, But okay, I have one more thing
- 24:43Speaker 1: I want to talk or two more points. First, Jackson
- 24:47Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba. As far as next year fantasy football wise,
- 24:51Speaker 1: he's gonna be going in the top top two rounds
- 24:53Speaker 1: for sure.
- 24:54Speaker 2: I say, I say, I say, late round two, top
- 24:57Speaker 2: early third.
- 24:58Speaker 1: You know who. I think he's gonna be like, he's
- 25:00Speaker 1: gonna be like a Nico Collins because he didn't start
- 25:03Speaker 1: popping off towards late in the year.
- 25:04Speaker 2: I was able to draft Nico in so many leagues
- 25:08Speaker 2: this year.
- 25:08Speaker 1: I know, I know Nico did so damn good. But
- 25:11Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be like that. And I think
- 25:13Speaker 1: he's gonna live up to it because I don't remember
- 25:17Speaker 1: his exact receptions, but it's been over six seven receptions
- 25:20Speaker 1: every game since like Week eight, week nine, So this
- 25:23Speaker 1: dude's he's.
- 25:24Speaker 2: Only admitting that Jasn is better than DK Metcalf. Finally,
- 25:28Speaker 2: I told him one month ago. I was like, there's
- 25:30Speaker 2: a reason why Jaysen was drafted in the first round.
- 25:34Speaker 2: There's a reason why they drafted him. Like he's the
- 25:36Speaker 2: number one. He's gonna be the number one.
- 25:38Speaker 1: When it's all say like that was a reason when
- 25:40Speaker 1: Garre Wilson Chris o'lavey with her and Jaysen was a freshman,
- 25:44Speaker 1: They're like this, dude, this dude's the number one. There
- 25:47Speaker 1: there's a reason why. So look watch twelve targets, twelve targets,
- 25:53Speaker 1: eight targets, eight targets, seven targets, ten targets, nine targets.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Hey, hear me out, hear me out, hear me out.
- 26:00Speaker 2: Let's see it is Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase a better,
- 26:05Speaker 2: a better era wide receiver than Antonio Brown and Julio Jones.
- 26:10Speaker 1: Oh okay, if we're just going peak for peak, year
- 26:15Speaker 1: for year for peaks, I mean Ab.
- 26:18Speaker 2: I think AB's peak is probably the greatest wide receiver
- 26:21Speaker 2: of all time. I don't know, but that's crazy to say.
- 26:24Speaker 1: But I say no, I say.
- 26:25Speaker 2: No, Okay, so what would it? So what what? What's
- 26:29Speaker 2: your holdback? What's your holdback? Because statistically you bring up
- 26:32Speaker 2: all these stats where Jamar Chase is like number one
- 26:34Speaker 2: all time.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do.
- 26:36Speaker 2: Jefferson is number one all times.
- 26:37Speaker 1: So it's like, well, Justin Jefferson fastest receiver to reach
- 26:42Speaker 1: over or damn quarterback proof that well, all of these
- 26:49Speaker 1: guys are quarterback proof.
- 26:50Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson is a different type of quarterback proof, though
- 26:54Speaker 2: he he is because who will never play with Ryan?
- 26:58Speaker 2: Julio never played without Matt Ryan, and Ab never played
- 27:01Speaker 2: without Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, and when he and Jamar Chase,
- 27:06Speaker 2: when he doesn't play with Joe Burrow is a little
- 27:08Speaker 2: different guy. We've seen Justin Jefferson with.
- 27:11Speaker 1: NICKI Mullens, sorry Win in this conversation Justin Jefferson.
- 27:17Speaker 2: We've seen Judgin Jefferson with Nick Mullins, Kirk Cousins, Sam Donald.
- 27:24Speaker 2: There there was another gud that played. I just yeah,
- 27:27Speaker 2: Joshua Dobbs like we've seen Justin ever do the exact
- 27:30Speaker 2: same thing, gaming and game out with four different receipts,
- 27:32Speaker 2: with five or four or five different quarterbacks.
- 27:36Speaker 1: I just think that Ab when he was at his peak,
- 27:39Speaker 1: almost reached he went yards Julio three hundred yards in
- 27:44Speaker 1: a fucking game. That's that's a hard peak to go
- 27:47Speaker 1: up against. I don't think they've reached that peak yet.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Jamar Chase this year triple Crown, Yes, he's up there.
- 27:55Speaker 1: But Justin Jefferson, what's the most he's had seventeen hundred yards?
- 27:59Speaker 2: Seventh hundred? He almost he had eighteen the other year,
- 28:03Speaker 2: didn't he? Let me see, we are potting today. We
- 28:11Speaker 2: are talking about football today.
- 28:12Speaker 1: No, this is this, This is a pod. This is
- 28:15Speaker 1: a pot.
- 28:15Speaker 2: Okay, thirteen eighty Okay, Justin Person's career fourteen hundred, sixteen sixteen,
- 28:23Speaker 2: eighteen o nine and this year thirteen eighty seven while
- 28:28Speaker 2: missing games, while missing games this year last year missed
- 28:33Speaker 2: but eight games and game games and it's one thousand
- 28:37Speaker 2: and seventy four yards. Bro.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I I again, I'm not trying to just
- 28:44Speaker 1: bring up CD right here, but CD, if it wasn't
- 28:46Speaker 1: for Justin Jefferson, CD, he'd be the greatest. Honestly, ceed Lamb,
- 28:52Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, that might be the greatest. Want you to come
- 28:54Speaker 1: out of a wide receiver class because CD, I don't
- 28:57Speaker 1: know if you know this, he's one hundred and fifty
- 28:58Speaker 1: yards away from as far as receivers in their first
- 29:03Speaker 1: four years to reach over so many yards. He's fourth
- 29:06Speaker 1: right now. He's gonna pass up Jerry Rice, Tory Holt.
- 29:08Speaker 1: He's gonna pass up those guys right there. Justin Jefferson's
- 29:11Speaker 1: already up there. But that's all I'm saying. But I
- 29:14Speaker 1: don't know if I could say. Okay, so Justin Jefferson,
- 29:17Speaker 1: you think it's close, I.
- 29:18Speaker 2: Think it's closer than it's close. It's really close.
- 29:22Speaker 1: It's closer than people want to think, m hm. But
- 29:25Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, I'm I'm still gonna say this. I think
- 29:28Speaker 1: Jamar Chase his peak. I think it's better than AB's already.
- 29:32Speaker 1: I think so too. I think so I say that,
- 29:36Speaker 1: But Julio Jones, Justin Jefferson, I think that that three
- 29:41Speaker 1: hundred yard game is just sticking out to me. As
- 29:43Speaker 1: far as for Julio Jones, you haven't seen a receiver
- 29:46Speaker 1: like Matt Ryan in that entire game. Was just throwing
- 29:49Speaker 1: the ball up to Julio and.
- 29:50Speaker 2: He just yeah, but we've seen Nick Mullens versus Detroit
- 29:53Speaker 2: last year just throw that thing up to freaking Justice,
- 29:57Speaker 2: up to Justin Jefferson, and Justin Jefferson was coming down
- 29:59Speaker 2: with it every single time.
- 30:01Speaker 1: It's it's close.
- 30:02Speaker 2: It just Jefferson, the catches he makes, Bro, Justin Jefferson
- 30:06Speaker 2: is the best contested ball catcher I've seen it, like
- 30:10Speaker 2: since since.
- 30:16Speaker 1: Since since careful with yours your megatron, Megatron, you're.
- 30:24Speaker 2: Getting these guys weren't getting wiped out like Justin Jefferson
- 30:30Speaker 2: was like, like, because you guys, think a lot of
- 30:33Speaker 2: these like Des Bryant with a lot of fades, Bro,
- 30:37Speaker 2: like a lot of fades back of the end zones
- 30:39Speaker 2: like you knew you can't stop it, you can't stop it.
- 30:43Speaker 2: Julio Jones the exact same thing. Calvin Johnson, the exact
- 30:46Speaker 2: same thing. Like they they they either beat their guys
- 30:48Speaker 2: off the line. But Justin Jefferson, I said, worst quarterback play.
- 30:53Speaker 2: So the balls are like terrible balls. He's going up
- 30:57Speaker 2: and getting his legs wiped out from underneath him, like
- 31:00Speaker 2: finishing through contact. Like it's like like, I don't know, bro.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Who we Justin Jefferson, he's If Justin Jefferson keeps doing
- 31:11Speaker 1: what he's doing, I think he just.
- 31:13Speaker 2: That contested catcher as Justin Jefferson.
- 31:16Speaker 1: No ced is better than Jamar as far as contested
- 31:18Speaker 1: as contested catches. Yeah, man, I just say the only
- 31:24Speaker 1: thing if we're he's already I think him Jamar Chase
- 31:31Speaker 1: ceed at this rate right now. If you stop their
- 31:33Speaker 1: career like with the first five of everybody else, you
- 31:36Speaker 1: say they're Hall of famers.
- 31:38Speaker 2: For sure, Yeah, for for.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Sure, for sure you say that. But I think the
- 31:42Speaker 1: only thing that's holding it back is something they can't
- 31:45Speaker 1: control as far as the years that they played. I
- 31:48Speaker 1: think that's that's the only thing that's holding it back.
- 31:50Speaker 2: But the AB's prime was only around seven years.
- 31:54Speaker 1: Seven years is a long fucking time.
- 31:56Speaker 2: It is. But just Jefferson's already already at five years.
- 32:01Speaker 1: But do you think AB's peak would have lasted longer
- 32:04Speaker 1: if it wasn't for Vontees?
- 32:07Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's so what if you know, like
- 32:09Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, it didn't.
- 32:11Speaker 1: That's some Derrick Rose type stuff right there. Yeah yeah, man, Okay, okay,
- 32:17Speaker 1: find that out. Justin Jefferson, if you just go five
- 32:20Speaker 1: years for five years, he's right there by Jerry Rice,
- 32:23Speaker 1: He's right there by Jerry Rice. I would take him
- 32:25Speaker 1: over over Julio Megatron does AB those guys right there,
- 32:31Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase. You have to include seeding that
- 32:34Speaker 1: conversation because the stats are there. The stats are right
- 32:37Speaker 1: there with them side by side.
- 32:39Speaker 2: Okay, we did grow up in a time where there
- 32:41Speaker 2: was Calvin Johnson, Des Bryant, Ab, Julio AJ Green. You know,
- 32:46Speaker 2: but like right.
- 32:47Speaker 1: Now we have a big three.
- 32:49Speaker 2: We have a big three. Right now, we have a
- 32:50Speaker 2: big three, and then we have if Tyreek was still
- 32:53Speaker 2: like Tyreek was still in his prime, like I mean,
- 32:58Speaker 2: I mean, this year was rough. This year was like,
- 33:00Speaker 2: that's the thing. This this year is gonna hurt Tyreek
- 33:02Speaker 2: a lot, you know, like with this conversation. But aman
- 33:06Speaker 2: Amanol this year too. This year was a little rough, Amana.
- 33:09Speaker 2: This year was two. It was a little rough to
- 33:11Speaker 2: what it usually is.
- 33:12Speaker 1: We got Jerry Judy. We got Jerry Judy this year.
- 33:15Speaker 2: But I'm saying Nico Collins right there, I'm Nico Collins
- 33:18Speaker 2: right there.
- 33:19Speaker 1: Okay, okay, aj Green, Megatron, Julio des a b that's
- 33:24Speaker 1: five the five. This year it would be CD Justin Jefferson,
- 33:29Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, Nico Amanrae. You could say Tyreek man that
- 33:37Speaker 1: it's right there. I feel like I feel like we
- 33:39Speaker 1: have a little bit of bias because we're watching it
- 33:41Speaker 1: right now.
- 33:42Speaker 2: But we watched these guys too. We're dude, you know
- 33:44Speaker 2: how bias. I am a des Bryant bro. Like, It's
- 33:47Speaker 2: not like when I was still a Cowboys fan bro
- 33:50Speaker 2: like des Bryant was.
- 33:51Speaker 1: I'm clipping that was God Bro.
- 33:53Speaker 2: Des Bryant was God Broyant.
- 33:56Speaker 1: That's my I.
- 33:59Speaker 2: Remember watching Yes Bryant in the back of the end
- 34:01Speaker 2: zone on the versus the Green Bay Packers catch over
- 34:03Speaker 2: three dudes, toe tap touchdown. Bro, No one's doing that,
- 34:06Speaker 2: like does Brian. They talk about Mario Manningham's helmet catch.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Brian was doing that every game, Bro.
- 34:13Speaker 1: Every damn game, des Brian, he was doing that, does Bryant?
- 34:17Speaker 1: I just think he's he's just underrated because you had
- 34:20Speaker 1: ab Megatron in those if he was in any other era.
- 34:24Speaker 2: And the injury, the injury towards the end of the career,
- 34:27Speaker 2: his foot injuries towards the knee, the foot, like it
- 34:30Speaker 2: was just it started catching up, all right, dude, another tangent. Bro,
- 34:35Speaker 2: we are let's just not even talk about these games. Bro,
- 34:37Speaker 2: let's just talk about.
- 34:39Speaker 1: Let's talk Okay, okay, next one, the next one. We
- 34:43Speaker 1: have Arizona Cardinals Carolina Panthers. Cardinals are eliminated from the
- 34:47Speaker 1: playoffs from this game, lose thirty to thirty six. Our
- 34:50Speaker 1: seven and eight Panthers go to four and eleven right
- 34:53Speaker 1: now now, the seventh or eighth overall draft pick as
- 34:56Speaker 1: of right now. Anything you took away from this.
- 34:57Speaker 2: One, Marvin Harrison needs better targets. I tremmy Bride screwed
- 35:02Speaker 2: me over. You know, has had his worst game in
- 35:05Speaker 2: quite a while. The Cardinals just didn't look like they
- 35:07Speaker 2: had it in this one. I feel like from the
- 35:08Speaker 2: beginning the Panthers kept up every every step of the way. CHUPA.
- 35:11Speaker 2: Hubbard's having one of those seasons, very underrated season. If
- 35:14Speaker 2: they were winning games, choopa, Hubbard'll be looking at We
- 35:17Speaker 2: looked at quite differently, I think this season. But that
- 35:19Speaker 2: contract's looking very nice right now. I know I sound
- 35:22Speaker 2: like an asshole a couple of weeks ago, but right
- 35:25Speaker 2: now you got to be happy that you signed him
- 35:26Speaker 2: to a contract because you got them lothed up. So, yeah,
- 35:30Speaker 2: the Panthers win this one.
- 35:32Speaker 1: Cardinals, I just think that there.
- 35:35Speaker 2: Might be a little bit, yeah, dis disappointing.
- 35:37Speaker 1: And they have a little bit of a Kyler Murray problem.
- 35:40Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I don't think it's a Kyler Murray problem.
- 35:42Speaker 2: It's an offensive coordinator problem. You think so, yes, bro,
- 35:46Speaker 2: Because Okay, Mike, Cliff Kingsbury glaze is coming out right now.
- 35:51Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury glaze is coming out right now. Bro. Give
- 35:54Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury this offense like he had with Marky's Brown,
- 35:58Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins and Kyler there and zach Ertz and zach
- 36:02Speaker 2: Ertz don't forget about zach Ertz when he had all
- 36:05Speaker 2: these guys, Bro, they were balling, Bro like they were
- 36:08Speaker 2: they were putting up points. Bro. They just need a
- 36:10Speaker 2: good offensive coordinator. They need a good offensive coordinator. I
- 36:13Speaker 2: don't even know who their offensive coordinator is right now,
- 36:14Speaker 2: but he's not that good. That's all I'm gonna say. What,
- 36:17Speaker 2: there's no reason why Martin Harrison Barn Harrison is not
- 36:21Speaker 2: a vert post and corner receivers. Now. Martin Harrison is
- 36:24Speaker 2: a complete receiver, Like he needs to be running every
- 36:27Speaker 2: route on the route tree, Bro. Like there's no reasons
- 36:29Speaker 2: why every ball he catches his fifty fifty balls like,
- 36:31Speaker 2: there's no reason.
- 36:33Speaker 1: Just because he's six ' four six ' four in
- 36:35Speaker 1: about two fifteen doesn't mean every ball is a jump ball.
- 36:38Speaker 1: It doesn't. He's one of the purest route runners as
- 36:41Speaker 1: far as to come out of the draft in a while.
- 36:44Speaker 1: In a while, so ands ands out's post corners. I
- 36:50Speaker 1: just think that I think there's a little bit of
- 36:52Speaker 1: a Kyler Murray problem because I feel like he just
- 36:55Speaker 1: tries to improvise too much and he just doesn't trust
- 36:58Speaker 1: the pocket as much. That makes sense. I know there's
- 37:00Speaker 1: a little bit of an offensive line problem. But I
- 37:03Speaker 1: feel like just t M Trey McBride. He covers the
- 37:06Speaker 1: middle of the field right there. So it's either McBride
- 37:11Speaker 1: or it's just scramble out. That's that's all it really
- 37:13Speaker 1: is for him. But they're Yeah, they're on the right track.
- 37:18Speaker 1: But all right, next game.
- 37:20Speaker 2: We wasted so much time talking about some freaking like.
- 37:24Speaker 1: So so much time, but hey, it's part of it,
- 37:26Speaker 1: all right. Next game Eagles versus the Washington Commanders right here,
- 37:31Speaker 1: and the Eagles they needed this game to potentially have
- 37:34Speaker 1: a shot for the one seed. They end up fell
- 37:36Speaker 1: in this game with Jalen Hurds being now in the
- 37:38Speaker 1: first quarter. So Commanders they win thirty six to thirty three.
- 37:42Speaker 1: This already Jade and Daniel's third game winning drive of
- 37:44Speaker 1: his career as a rookie. So what do you take
- 37:46Speaker 1: away from this one?
- 37:48Speaker 2: Hey, this this is a good win for the Commanders,
- 37:50Speaker 2: just slidifies them a spot. It actually keeps them still
- 37:53Speaker 2: in the race for the division. It was just kind
- 37:54Speaker 2: of kind of kind of crazy to say, because I
- 37:56Speaker 2: thought the Eagles are gonna run away with it, but
- 37:58Speaker 2: that Jalen hurts injury does hurt them a lot. But
- 38:02Speaker 2: Jendon Daniels look like I told you he needed that,
- 38:05Speaker 2: he needed that by week I told you like I
- 38:08Speaker 2: I'm not ready to say that he got figured out
- 38:10Speaker 2: because he did get banged up pretty good earlier into
- 38:12Speaker 2: the season. He was supposed to set out a couple
- 38:14Speaker 2: of weeks, never set out at all. But now he's
- 38:18Speaker 2: he looks like he's cooking what we thought he was
- 38:20Speaker 2: was at the beginning all of my days. The key
- 38:22Speaker 2: that is the keyest agenda role and receiver. He's getting
- 38:25Speaker 2: people the ball that shouldn't beginning the ball, and that's
- 38:27Speaker 2: good from your quarterback that he's able to get people involved.
- 38:31Speaker 2: As far as the Eagles, it's hurts them a little bit.
- 38:33Speaker 2: I think their race for the number one spot, it's
- 38:35Speaker 2: kind of hurt. Is hurt. Now they need They need
- 38:38Speaker 2: a couple of things to go right. I think the
- 38:40Speaker 2: Vikings having the Lions and the Packers these next two
- 38:44Speaker 2: games is gonna help. And then having the and having
- 38:47Speaker 2: the Lions play the Vikings is gonna help. But the
- 38:50Speaker 2: Eagles would have to win out. They would have to
- 38:51Speaker 2: win out. They can't lose no more games. And as
- 38:54Speaker 2: far as Saquon, he kind of puts himself in a
- 38:56Speaker 2: little bit back into pace, but I still think it's
- 38:58Speaker 2: it's a little too far, too far gone for me.
- 39:01Speaker 2: DeVonta Smith's dealing with an injury also, so maybe maybe
- 39:03Speaker 2: the injuries are kind of cashing up to the Eagles
- 39:06Speaker 2: at the wrong time. And but that's just something to see.
- 39:10Speaker 1: I don't think Jalen Hurts being out in this game
- 39:12Speaker 1: would have affected this game right here for the Washington Commanders,
- 39:15Speaker 1: because first off, the Commanders, they had five turnovers and
- 39:18Speaker 1: still found themselves in the ballgame here and his defense,
- 39:23Speaker 1: this is kind of what we saw last year. I
- 39:25Speaker 1: know it was earlier on that we saw the Eagles
- 39:27Speaker 1: kind of fall off, but all I'm saying is that
- 39:29Speaker 1: this defense was getting beat right here by Terry mclaurden,
- 39:33Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, James Jameson Crowder and amalay Is the key is.
- 39:37Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. You're gonna go up against the Lions,
- 39:39Speaker 1: the Packers, the Vikings that have way more webs. So
- 39:47Speaker 1: all I'm saying is that this isn't a good sign
- 39:49Speaker 1: right here. And Jaden Daniels, he just locked up the
- 39:53Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year for sure, because bo Knicks after
- 39:56Speaker 1: him losing.
- 39:57Speaker 2: That was ruck Bauer. I said, it's gonna go to
- 40:03Speaker 2: a quarterback.
- 40:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's gonna go to a quarterback.
- 40:05Speaker 2: Now, five touchdowns is too much? Five touchdowns.
- 40:08Speaker 1: No, that's that's a crazy that's a crazy game right there.
- 40:10Speaker 1: But Saquan he's still he's still right there. And it's
- 40:14Speaker 1: not a coincidence. They played the Giants the last week
- 40:16Speaker 1: of the season and he could potentially break the record.
- 40:18Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. He could potentially break the record.
- 40:21Speaker 1: But I think that they should I think I know
- 40:26Speaker 1: you play the Cowboys next week. I think they should
- 40:28Speaker 1: just tank or just give up on that one seed
- 40:31Speaker 1: because you're gonna be playing for too much there. You're
- 40:33Speaker 1: just better off letting Jalen Hurts get healthy, Davonta Smith
- 40:35Speaker 1: get healthy, some of the other guys get healthy right here,
- 40:38Speaker 1: because if not, you don't get the one seed and
- 40:41Speaker 1: you're all banged up and you go in the first
- 40:43Speaker 1: round against the Packers or somebody like that, you're gonna
- 40:46Speaker 1: end up getting screwed over. So because you're gonna they're
- 40:49Speaker 1: most likely gonna end up playing the Packers, the Packers
- 40:53Speaker 1: or Packers Vikings or who's that seventeen right now? The Commanders,
- 41:00Speaker 1: So it would be another divisional game. But all right,
- 41:02Speaker 1: let's go ahead and move on to this next team
- 41:03Speaker 1: right here, Rams versus the New York Jets. Rams they win,
- 41:07Speaker 1: they go to nine and six control of the NFC West.
- 41:10Speaker 1: Right here, lou Or Jets say, lose, go to four
- 41:12Speaker 1: and eleven. Final score nineteen to nine. Any takeaways, Cooper Cup,
- 41:21Speaker 1: That's all I gotta say.
- 41:22Speaker 2: Bro, that's all I gotta say. I'm like Joseph in
- 41:24Speaker 2: the Bible. Nothing to say to I got nothing to say.
- 41:28Speaker 2: But you know, Kyle Williams is the Kyle Williams Show.
- 41:32Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's the engine of the offense.
- 41:33Speaker 2: I think if he has a good game, the rest
- 41:35Speaker 2: of the team's gonna have a good game. Puku Nakua,
- 41:37Speaker 2: you know he did. He did Sam May Puka Nakua
- 41:39Speaker 2: things in this game. Nothing, nothing too crazy. They just
- 41:42Speaker 2: got the job done against the New York Jets team.
- 41:43Speaker 2: Who don't I said what I say about the New
- 41:46Speaker 2: York Jets disappointing. But the Rams they win one more game.
- 41:51Speaker 2: I believe they lock it up, right, I think one
- 41:52Speaker 2: more game. It's yeah, and who they play next. Who's
- 41:56Speaker 2: on the schedule, Who's on the schedule.
- 41:58Speaker 1: Let me go to it right now. I'm I'm looking.
- 42:01Speaker 2: At the Cardinals. They have the Cardinals next next game,
- 42:08Speaker 2: and then they have Seattle Week eighteen, so they I
- 42:12Speaker 2: think these are two divisional matchups they have to win. Yeah,
- 42:16Speaker 2: I believe that if they lose to the Cardinals, it's
- 42:18Speaker 2: the must win versus the Seahawks, and I need the
- 42:20Speaker 2: Seahawks to lose. So I think it's gonna come down
- 42:22Speaker 2: to that Week eighteen for sure, unless the Rams can
- 42:24Speaker 2: put it away next week. I don't know. It's good's
- 42:28Speaker 2: it's pretty interesting. I think they're one of the scarier
- 42:30Speaker 2: teams to play when it comes when it's gonna be
- 42:32Speaker 2: when when the playoff time comes around.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Yeah, these last two weeks, the offense, it hasn't been
- 42:36Speaker 1: clicking for the Rams, But I'm not worried about them.
- 42:39Speaker 1: I think they'll get it figured out. I don't know
- 42:41Speaker 1: what they're doing because the Niners and the Jets back
- 42:44Speaker 1: to back weeks where offense looks sluggish. I don't know
- 42:47Speaker 1: if they're saving plays. I wouldn't say that all that
- 42:50Speaker 1: because they're still fighting for something, But I just feel
- 42:53Speaker 1: like they're holding something back in the tank. There's no
- 42:55Speaker 1: way you could tell me you score for two.
- 42:57Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way you can tell me Cooper Cup
- 42:59Speaker 2: has three catches, has three catches in two games. There's
- 43:02Speaker 2: no way you can tell me.
- 43:03Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way. Yeah, I'm I'm not buying that
- 43:06Speaker 1: at all. And I just think that, like you said,
- 43:08Speaker 1: they need to win one more game. Even if they lose,
- 43:10Speaker 1: they control their own destiny against Seattle. Seattle's on the
- 43:12Speaker 1: outside looking in, and especially with them losing. So I'm
- 43:16Speaker 1: not worried. I'm not worried for the Rams here and
- 43:19Speaker 1: Jet's nothing to take away Davonte Adams. He's saving a
- 43:22Speaker 1: lot of people in fantasy right now. After a slow start, we're.
- 43:24Speaker 2: Probably gonna go on attengent again. All right. Rumors, the
- 43:28Speaker 2: rumors right now of Garrett Wilson. The rumors right now
- 43:31Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson. Okay, how do you feel about the future
- 43:33Speaker 2: chief that is Garrett Wilson? Like where you where's your
- 43:37Speaker 2: mindset with this right now?
- 43:39Speaker 1: I think that Garrett Wilson. First off, a team's gonna
- 43:42Speaker 1: have to give up a lot of draft capital, and
- 43:44Speaker 1: they're gonna have to pay him because he's going into
- 43:47Speaker 1: his third year already. So I'm gonna say that right there.
- 43:51Speaker 1: But I don't know if the Chiefs do it, because
- 43:53Speaker 1: they have to pay Rashid Rice, and they have to
- 43:56Speaker 1: pay a couple of other players.
- 43:57Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have to give them some drafts coming up.
- 43:59Speaker 2: Carltis is coming up, Brian Cook is coming up. That's
- 44:02Speaker 2: why I'm Checko is coming up like that, that draft
- 44:06Speaker 2: class is coming up. Let's just say that draft class
- 44:08Speaker 2: is coming up. Draft class, Carl Laftis, Carl Aftis, and
- 44:10Speaker 2: McDuffie are priorities. I think, hmm. I think.
- 44:13Speaker 1: I think if I'm the Washington Commanders, I go all
- 44:17Speaker 1: in for Garrett Wilson. I go all in for Garrett Wilson.
- 44:20Speaker 1: That's that's my thinking right there, because.
- 44:22Speaker 2: You know what, I think that the Chiefs do it.
- 44:24Speaker 2: What you know, I think they do it. Rashid Rice
- 44:28Speaker 2: is gonna miss ten games next year.
- 44:30Speaker 1: The suspension, mm hmm, and that could affect his contract.
- 44:35Speaker 2: Yep.
- 44:36Speaker 1: Mmm, I don't know.
- 44:38Speaker 2: And they're not paying Pacheco. The Chiefs are not paying Pachecko.
- 44:41Speaker 1: Yeah, but you have to. You have to pay so
- 44:43Speaker 1: many guys.
- 44:44Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. Oh, we'll see.
- 44:50Speaker 1: Oh, I my bad, I didn't even notice somebody was
- 44:52Speaker 1: in the comments, Alfonse, Are you a Cowboys fan? Yes,
- 44:54Speaker 1: I am a Cowboys fan. Sadly we can beat the
- 44:57Speaker 1: Eagles and the Commanders and the car I don't. Well,
- 45:02Speaker 1: we beat the Commanders all the time. We beat the Eagles.
- 45:04Speaker 1: I think I think we're gonna end up going nine
- 45:07Speaker 1: to eight and we're gonna end up missing the playoffs
- 45:10Speaker 1: having like a twentieth overall draft pick. But that's something slide.
- 45:13Speaker 1: But okay, Josh Garrett Wilson, if you want him to
- 45:17Speaker 1: go anywhere else besides the Chiefs, who would you want
- 45:20Speaker 1: it to be or where would you want it to be?
- 45:23Speaker 2: Not who best fit for him? I think would probably
- 45:26Speaker 2: be how much I say, I say, probably the Green
- 45:29Speaker 2: Bay Packers.
- 45:30Speaker 1: Oh, oh that would be that would be nice. Right
- 45:34Speaker 1: there there, there's a number one right there. Oh, that
- 45:36Speaker 1: would be nice.
- 45:36Speaker 2: I think. I think I think him going to the
- 45:38Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers with Jordan Love and then I think
- 45:41Speaker 2: they'd have to give up Jayden Reid or they'd have
- 45:43Speaker 2: to give up like one of the guys. For sure.
- 45:45Speaker 2: That in a heartbeat, I do it no matter what.
- 45:47Speaker 2: Like it's like Dynasty when they just Garret Wilson fell
- 45:50Speaker 2: right into my lap for trading to trade garried story,
- 45:52Speaker 2: but I think Garrett Wilson, you trade Jayden Reid or
- 45:58Speaker 2: Christian Watson. Bro, Oh my gosh, got hurt again, dude, Like,
- 46:01Speaker 2: come on, like the potential is there, Like the potential
- 46:05Speaker 2: is there?
- 46:05Speaker 1: You know he started doing good as of late, Dude, No.
- 46:08Speaker 2: It's he started getting healthy, bro started playing good. Boom
- 46:10Speaker 2: injured the game, Like, dude, come on, bro, like someone
- 46:14Speaker 2: but one of those guys are getting traded Romeo Dobbs, January,
- 46:17Speaker 2: Christian Watson, one of them is going. But yeah, I'm
- 46:19Speaker 2: taking that for Garrett Wilson any day. Yeah. And and
- 46:22Speaker 2: the way that the way that Joy Love plays is
- 46:25Speaker 2: gonna fit here at Wilson.
- 46:26Speaker 1: Yeah no, yeah, no, for sure, I'll I'll say that.
- 46:29Speaker 1: But all right, let's go to move on to this
- 46:30Speaker 1: next game. Indianapolis Colts versus Tennessee Titans. Colts they win
- 46:34Speaker 1: thirty eight to thirty. They keep their playoff hopes alive
- 46:37Speaker 1: as well, with Jonathan Taylor going absolutely ape shit and
- 46:40Speaker 1: ruined a couple of my fantasy football leagues and Josh
- 46:43Speaker 1: because he didn't start him in one. So all right,
- 46:47Speaker 1: the only thing I'm gonna ask you, because this game
- 46:49Speaker 1: it wasn't the most entertaining to watch Colts, they keep
- 46:51Speaker 1: the playoff hopes alive. Pretty simple. How disappointed are you
- 46:54Speaker 1: invenching Jonathan Taylor here? No?
- 47:01Speaker 2: Like you know what? How like Candarius Tony and sky
- 47:06Speaker 2: Moore like you hold you hold out hope for them
- 47:10Speaker 2: and they just disappoint you. Well, I disappointed him. That's
- 47:13Speaker 2: how disappointed I am in myself.
- 47:16Speaker 1: Damn yeah, damn, You're like Brent Leach Whenever sky Moore
- 47:21Speaker 1: dropped that pass.
- 47:22Speaker 2: I'm like Brett Beach in the round two Norris jecting
- 47:25Speaker 2: round two. I take that back.
- 47:26Speaker 1: Let's keep it moving, okay, yea, let's do good moving.
- 47:30Speaker 1: So yeah, if y'all had Jonathan Taylor, congrats on y'all
- 47:32Speaker 1: going to y'alls fantasy football championship. Oh yeah, one more
- 47:35Speaker 1: quick thing. So, bro, if I started Deebo Samuel this
- 47:39Speaker 1: week in one of the leagues over over Marv, I win.
- 47:44Speaker 1: And that's what this dude having Saquon Barkley, him having
- 47:47Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, him having who else was it? Who else?
- 47:51Speaker 1: Did he have. He had somebody else that popped off too.
- 47:54Speaker 1: I don't know who it was, but and I almost
- 47:56Speaker 1: won that because I didn't freaking start Deebo Samuel.
- 47:59Speaker 2: No.
- 47:59Speaker 1: But all right, next game right here, Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns. Bengals,
- 48:04Speaker 1: they keep their playoff hopes alive as well, go to
- 48:06Speaker 1: seven and eight. Browns go to three and twelve with
- 48:08Speaker 1: dtr starting any takeaways with this one?
- 48:11Speaker 2: No, not really. I think that the Bengal I think.
- 48:13Speaker 2: I think. I don't know why you've Ben Jamis. I
- 48:17Speaker 2: understand it, but Jamis keeps you in this type of game.
- 48:19Speaker 2: I feel like I understand He's gonna make mistakes. He
- 48:22Speaker 2: made a lot of mistakes last week six. A lot
- 48:24Speaker 2: of those turnovers were a lot. It was a lot
- 48:25Speaker 2: of turnovers. But I'm honestly they're not playing to win either,
- 48:29Speaker 2: I think at this point. But the Bengals, we I
- 48:32Speaker 2: think I'm not really taking enough for their defense. Yeah,
- 48:38Speaker 2: that's the that's the tail. That's the game that I'm of, James.
- 48:41Speaker 2: How good the Bengals are. That's the game because their
- 48:44Speaker 2: defense played the Brownsdrian Thompson, Robinson, Cedric Tillman's out once again.
- 48:48Speaker 2: Nick Chubb hurt once again. Jerome Ford played great. Jerome
- 48:51Speaker 2: Ford did play great. But as far as that whole
- 48:54Speaker 2: side the Bengals, we know what their offense is. It's
- 48:56Speaker 2: just a matter I need to see against a better
- 48:57Speaker 2: team before I gauge if they if if they are
- 49:00Speaker 2: going to make it right, because they have to win
- 49:02Speaker 2: it against Denver, Like, there's no question to be like,
- 49:04Speaker 2: if they lose, they win, they lose, I think they're
- 49:06Speaker 2: out right.
- 49:06Speaker 1: If they lose, they're out. They have to win out Yeah.
- 49:08Speaker 2: Yeah, So Beingals, it's gonna come down to that game.
- 49:11Speaker 2: And that's the gauge that I'm with that, that's that's
- 49:13Speaker 2: the what I'm gonna put it up to them versus
- 49:15Speaker 2: the Bronco.
- 49:16Speaker 1: Okay, I got a question for you. If you're the
- 49:19Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs the Bengals, they beat the Brown or
- 49:22Speaker 1: the Broncos next week and the final week you're fighting
- 49:25Speaker 1: for the one seed, or you keep the Bengals out
- 49:28Speaker 1: of the playoffs by losing, which one would you ask?
- 49:32Speaker 2: Wait, so we lose, are we losing to the Steelers tomorrow?
- 49:37Speaker 1: Hypothetically y'all lose to the Steelers and Bills win. Hypothetically,
- 49:40Speaker 1: hypothetically speaking, So last game of the year to cleanse
- 49:43Speaker 1: the one seed, you have to win.
- 49:45Speaker 2: Clinch the one seed, or or you lose.
- 49:47Speaker 1: Okay, okay, because.
- 49:49Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. I'll tell
- 49:51Speaker 2: you why. I'll tell you why. We get the one seed,
- 49:53Speaker 2: we avoid Buffalo, We avoid Buffalo in round two for sure. Okay,
- 49:57Speaker 2: and you'll have to place since he's gonna end up
- 50:00Speaker 2: playing we already, since he's gonna end up playing a
- 50:03Speaker 2: team we already beat, like more than likely, because more
- 50:07Speaker 2: than likely the Ravens or somebody and the Bills are
- 50:09Speaker 2: gonna have to score off. They're gonna like they're gonna
- 50:11Speaker 2: have to score off in the divisional Well, here's.
- 50:13Speaker 1: The thing about it. If you guys win the one seed,
- 50:16Speaker 1: Bills they get two seed, it will be Cincinnati and
- 50:19Speaker 1: Buffalo the first round.
- 50:21Speaker 2: In the first round. In the first round, who would
- 50:25Speaker 2: I rather play?
- 50:27Speaker 1: You could get shngles out of the playoffs, or Bills
- 50:30Speaker 1: go against Cincy.
- 50:31Speaker 2: Dude, who would rather play? Like, like, you don't difference
- 50:36Speaker 2: against that, you don't want to I don't want to
- 50:37Speaker 2: play the I'd rather play the Bills. I'd rather play
- 50:40Speaker 2: the Bills because the Bengals. The reason why they don't
- 50:44Speaker 2: scare me as much as they usually do. The defense
- 50:46Speaker 2: is worse. The defense is I think right now, when
- 50:49Speaker 2: we talk about it in a minute, I'll get into
- 50:51Speaker 2: why the offense for the Chiefs is gonna annihilate that
- 50:56Speaker 2: Bengals defense right now, like today's offense like today. So
- 51:00Speaker 2: I'm not talking about Week four when we played. I'm
- 51:02Speaker 2: talking about Week fifteen, Week sixteen. Chiefs offense with Hollywood
- 51:06Speaker 2: brown Back is different, is a different animal with that
- 51:08Speaker 2: is able to tack go and cream hunt is a
- 51:10Speaker 2: whole different, a whole different offense. But the Bills, the Bengals,
- 51:17Speaker 2: Joe Burrow can just I don't know, Joe. Here's bro.
- 51:22Speaker 2: I don't know, Bro. I just I don't want to
- 51:24Speaker 2: play either. I'll just say that, like I don't want
- 51:26Speaker 2: to play either. But we have to walk up the
- 51:27Speaker 2: one seed because you want to play an arrowhead.
- 51:29Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
- 51:30Speaker 2: The teams the Chiefs had the hardest road to Super
- 51:32Speaker 2: Bowl last year out of any team they made it.
- 51:34Speaker 2: They won this year.
- 51:36Speaker 1: Miami. Those Miami they beat.
- 51:39Speaker 2: They beat four four top five offenses and helped them
- 51:42Speaker 2: all below I think eighteen points.
- 51:46Speaker 1: Who did y'all play? Y'all played Miami.
- 51:48Speaker 2: Miami, then we played Buffalo, Buffalo, then Baltimore than Baltimore
- 51:55Speaker 2: and Baltimore forget they for people forgetting Baltimore statistically was
- 52:00Speaker 2: the greatest team of all time.
- 52:02Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, oh wait wait wait was it the No,
- 52:06Speaker 1: it wasn't the Texans. Ravens played the Texans. Yeah yeah, yeah,
- 52:09Speaker 1: Ravens played the Texans. Yeah yeah, damn yeah no, the
- 52:12Speaker 1: Ravens they did have statistically best defense, one of the
- 52:15Speaker 1: best offenses.
- 52:16Speaker 2: Because they had the number three offense all time statistically,
- 52:18Speaker 2: I think, like.
- 52:19Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was hard like that.
- 52:21Speaker 2: And then they had the number four statistic defense. I
- 52:23Speaker 2: mean we had we were up there in defense. I'm
- 52:25Speaker 2: not we were up there, yeah yeah. And then we
- 52:30Speaker 2: beat the number one offense and the Dolphins last year, yeah,
- 52:34Speaker 2: or number two, number one offense. And then we played Buffalo,
- 52:38Speaker 2: which was a top top three offense.
- 52:41Speaker 1: And on the seven game win streak, on a seven
- 52:43Speaker 1: eight game win streak going into arrowhead Man.
- 52:48Speaker 2: All at home, all the way, all away games. Yeah yeah,
- 52:52Speaker 2: except except for Buffalo, except for Miami, except for Miami.
- 52:55Speaker 2: Miami was not ready for that. Yeah.
- 52:57Speaker 1: No, no, no, they were not ready for that cold. But
- 53:00Speaker 1: all right, we're getting on another tangent here. Let's go
- 53:02Speaker 1: into this next one. The Detroit Lions versus the Chicago
- 53:06Speaker 1: Bears here and Lions again fighting for that one seed.
- 53:09Speaker 1: Thirty four to seventeen was a final score here. First
- 53:12Speaker 1: game without David Montgomery the entire year where there's rumors
- 53:16Speaker 1: that he could be back for NFC championship or a
- 53:19Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So how do you feel about this game? Right?
- 53:22Speaker 2: Let me just talk about somebody real quick. Okay, someone,
- 53:25Speaker 2: let me just talk about somebody real quick, and I
- 53:27Speaker 2: just want to say thank you to him. Keenan Allen.
- 53:30Speaker 2: Keenan Allen, you know and Dynasty and Dynasty Football and
- 53:34Speaker 2: Dynasty Fantasy Football, Keenan Allen for Diamond Daddy's Year one,
- 53:40Speaker 2: for Marvin's Room. You were the bright spot. You were
- 53:45Speaker 2: the man. I mean, I hate you for I hated
- 53:47Speaker 2: you for the longest time. I hated you for the
- 53:49Speaker 2: longest time because you are a Chargers player. You were
- 53:53Speaker 2: a Chargers player, don't get me wrong, but these last
- 53:57Speaker 2: two weeks, I just want to say thank you. I
- 53:59Speaker 2: just want to say thank you for putting your best
- 54:00Speaker 2: effort out onto the field. I would not have made
- 54:02Speaker 2: it to the semi final round if you didn't go
- 54:05Speaker 2: eight shit in the last drive and one of those
- 54:08Speaker 2: last drives again last week for the Bears, a big touchdown,
- 54:12Speaker 2: big catch this week, Bro, thank you nine. You were
- 54:16Speaker 2: the guy that stepped up and tried bringing it in
- 54:19Speaker 2: I think almost twenty nine points. You know, I just
- 54:22Speaker 2: want to say thank you, Keenan Allen. Okay. Other than that,
- 54:25Speaker 2: the Lions needed this win. They needed this dominating win
- 54:28Speaker 2: against the against the team like the Chicago Bears, who
- 54:30Speaker 2: they struggled against on Thanksgiving Day when they were a
- 54:32Speaker 2: little bit more healthier, a lot more healthier. They were
- 54:35Speaker 2: a lot more healthier two weeks ago. They were a
- 54:37Speaker 2: lot more healthier two weeks ago than they are now.
- 54:40Speaker 2: And I think I think you're able to show people
- 54:42Speaker 2: a we can still beat you no matter what. I
- 54:45Speaker 2: think that's what you need to do, because the Bears
- 54:47Speaker 2: can keep up offensively when they sometimes sometimes they can
- 54:51Speaker 2: keep up. And Jamison Williams having a big day in
- 54:54Speaker 2: this one am and having a big day Jamior Gibs
- 54:57Speaker 2: carrying the workload says a lot for this team then
- 55:01Speaker 2: that they can do it no matter the situation. And
- 55:04Speaker 2: Jared Goff no turnovers twenty three for thirty two, three
- 55:07Speaker 2: thirty six low key if Josh Jared Goff deserves to
- 55:12Speaker 2: be in the MVP talks, but he's not gonna win that.
- 55:15Speaker 2: That's it. He deserves to be in the talk.
- 55:17Speaker 1: He'll get an MVP vote.
- 55:19Speaker 2: He'll get it v He'll get an MVP vote.
- 55:21Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's all. It's gonna be right there, MVP vote.
- 55:24Speaker 2: That's it.
- 55:25Speaker 1: But okay, quick thing. Nothing really take away from this game.
- 55:29Speaker 1: You had a feeling that the lines are gonna win first.
- 55:32Speaker 1: This is random, but they'll know who I'm talking to.
- 55:35Speaker 1: Jared Goff is not a top three Fantasy football quarterback
- 55:38Speaker 1: and he is not better than Jalen Hurts and fantasy.
- 55:39Speaker 2: Football a ball dude, a ball dude.
- 55:42Speaker 1: Just because this week or the past two weeks, he
- 55:44Speaker 1: has been doing good. Even at that, Jalen Hurts is
- 55:46Speaker 1: a damn good last week. But that's all I'm gonna
- 55:49Speaker 1: say as far as with that. But Jamier Gibbs karen
- 55:51Speaker 1: the load without David Montgomery twenty three for one on
- 55:55Speaker 1: nine and having four for forty five, and I think
- 55:58Speaker 1: he had like sixteen touches in the first half. They
- 56:01Speaker 1: set the tone real featuring. They set the tone real
- 56:04Speaker 1: down quick and Caleb Williams in this game did not
- 56:07Speaker 1: look bad. He did not look bad in this game.
- 56:10Speaker 1: And it's weird. Caleb Billiams. I feel like good game,
- 56:12Speaker 1: bad game. Good game, bad game. That's all it is.
- 56:14Speaker 1: It's just up and down with him at this point.
- 56:17Speaker 1: But again, Lions, they have to keep on winning because
- 56:20Speaker 1: they played the Vikings the last week of the season
- 56:22Speaker 1: for that one seed. But nothing else to really take away.
- 56:25Speaker 1: Let's go to this next one right here, Michael Pennix's
- 56:28Speaker 1: first start for that Atlanta Falcons against the New York Giants.
- 56:32Speaker 1: They won thirty four to seven, and now the Falcons
- 56:34Speaker 1: they control their own destiny in which they play the
- 56:37Speaker 1: Commanders next week. So what'd you take away from Michael
- 56:40Speaker 1: Pennick's first start.
- 56:43Speaker 2: I think this is a perfect first start for Michael Pennicks.
- 56:45Speaker 2: I don't think don't you don't expect a rookie quarterback
- 56:48Speaker 2: to really light the world on fire. I think he
- 56:50Speaker 2: relied on his weapons around him. The defense stepped up.
- 56:53Speaker 2: It is the Giants, so I'm not going to be like, oh,
- 56:55Speaker 2: you know, they went into they went into a divisional game,
- 56:58Speaker 2: they went into a higher the game, they went into
- 57:02Speaker 2: lambeau Field and played a great game. No, they played
- 57:04Speaker 2: a team they were supposed to be. But he didn't
- 57:07Speaker 2: make too many mistakes. You know, the one interception that
- 57:10Speaker 2: was that was Yeah, it looks bad for him, but
- 57:13Speaker 2: on the stat sheet, but it wasn't his fault. And
- 57:16Speaker 2: as far as this whole thing, Bijon stepping up for
- 57:18Speaker 2: the rookie, it helps out a lot. Tyler Ouse Yer,
- 57:20Speaker 2: that's that's what you're gonna have to lean upon. For
- 57:22Speaker 2: Michael Pennocks, we say all the time, run the dawn
- 57:24Speaker 2: ball for a lot of these teams. Yeah, and Bijeon
- 57:28Speaker 2: tyler OUs Year, you need to give them the rock
- 57:30Speaker 2: for Michael Pennocks to be successful. I think they failed
- 57:32Speaker 2: to do that for Kirk Cousins a little bit. But
- 57:34Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins also, you expect Kirk Cousins to be able
- 57:36Speaker 2: to make some throws. And as far as there's Darnel
- 57:38Speaker 2: Munie kind of get back, gets back into the fold,
- 57:40Speaker 2: Drake Lindon gets back into the fold. So a lot
- 57:43Speaker 2: of good signs, but the most important games are coming
- 57:45Speaker 2: up and that's that's the real test for Michael Pinnicks.
- 57:48Speaker 1: Three sacks, three tackle for losses, two touchdowns for that
- 57:52Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons defense. This is Atlanta Falcons defense is on
- 57:55Speaker 1: fire now with Raheem Morris as his head coach. And
- 57:59Speaker 1: this is the only reason why they're still in contention
- 58:02Speaker 1: for the playoffs right here.
- 58:03Speaker 2: And I don't mind it counts, it counts. It counts. Well,
- 58:07Speaker 2: I went back and looked. I went back and looked.
- 58:09Speaker 2: You know how, I say, run the damn ball. Obviously
- 58:11Speaker 2: run the dawn ball. Well. I was a little worried
- 58:14Speaker 2: because the stat kind of almost ended right here because Brian,
- 58:17Speaker 2: Brian Robinson only had ten carries, right, only ten carries,
- 58:21Speaker 2: but two catches, twelve touches. How you do? How you do?
- 58:26Speaker 1: How do you do it?
- 58:27Speaker 2: How you doing? Keep it moving? Are you doing crazy?
- 58:31Speaker 1: B rob What is the record has to be like
- 58:33Speaker 1: ten and one at this point?
- 58:34Speaker 2: Who's the will who's the real MVP? That's the real question, Brian,
- 58:39Speaker 2: If you if we were voters, if we were voters, Brian,
- 58:43Speaker 2: we would know who to Brian Robinson's my vote the
- 58:47Speaker 2: most valuable player of all time? Just saying just yeah,
- 58:50Speaker 2: all right, go back to go back. It clicked in
- 58:53Speaker 2: my mind. We didn't even check the stats for the wins.
- 58:55Speaker 2: But yeah, just run the damn ball, Atlanta. That's all
- 58:58Speaker 2: I'm saying. Run the down ball.
- 59:00Speaker 1: Just run the ball, and then you have, as of
- 59:02Speaker 1: right now, the hottest defense right now. And I just
- 59:05Speaker 1: think that. I just think that if Michael Pennis could
- 59:08Speaker 1: just play smart football like he did against the Giants,
- 59:10Speaker 1: then they're gonna be perfectly fine here because Bijeon he's there,
- 59:13Speaker 1: the defense is there. I don't think they're gonna make
- 59:16Speaker 1: any noise. But as far as for next year, I
- 59:18Speaker 1: think they're gonna be a force to be reckoned with
- 59:19Speaker 1: because Michael Pennis, he likes to spread the ball around
- 59:22Speaker 1: to Drake London, Darnell Mooney. That looks like his favorite targets.
- 59:25Speaker 1: But Malik neighbors quarterback proof. Quarterbackproof, That's all I gotta
- 59:29Speaker 1: say it. Tyron Tracy, he's fallen off quite a bit,
- 59:33Speaker 1: quite a bit ever since that my football game.
- 59:35Speaker 2: Dak boxes, stack boxes, you know, take away to run.
- 59:39Speaker 2: So I'm not thinking too much off of it.
- 59:41Speaker 1: That's true. But all right, let's go in and get
- 59:43Speaker 1: onto this next game right here, which this one is
- 59:45Speaker 1: a Ravens where they had to win to control the division. Again,
- 59:48Speaker 1: Pittsburgh still does versus Baltimore Ravens Ravens they win thirty
- 59:51Speaker 1: four to seventeen, and Lamar Jackson is back in the
- 59:55Speaker 1: VP conversation here. So what do you take away from
- 59:57Speaker 1: this one?
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: I breacon freaking breaking bro Oh my gosh, the whod
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: George Pickens de bait. He impacts his team. All these
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: receivers impact their team. Okay, reckon Fourth and Feast. Go
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: check out the go check out the YouTube channel. Who
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: who's in this who's in this chat with us right now?
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: Who's what's his name?
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: Let's see his name is. I don't know why it's
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: not popping up for me right now?
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: It is not popping up for me. Oh zaire thoroughly,
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: zayre thoroughly all right, brother, Go to YouTube. Go to YouTube.
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: Check out our friend Fourth and Feest. He makes food
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: while talking about football. Best of both worlds. Go check
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: it out. But I will say this, my friend is
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: an idiot also, so he he uh he thinks George
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: Pickens is a top ten receiver in the NFL. I
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: get it. I get the impact. The past game is
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: not the same. But let's hold slow, roll real quick.
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: There's I can name some receivers better. We did it
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: yesterday with him, me and Damien. Did he sit the ground?
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: He said? He said maybe twelve, He said, maybe twelve.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: He'll take. I'm like, no, no, brother, no, it's not twelve.
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: But I'll give I said, I'll give him fifteen. I'll
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: give him number fifteen. Is that enough for you? I'll
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: give you fifteen?
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: I'm doing.
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: He said, he's taking. He said he's taking George Pickens
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: over Mike Evans. What what exactly? All right? Hear me out?
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: He said, he's taking George Pickens or Davonta Smith.
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: That's a fifty to fifty No, it's not, Bro, Davonta
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: Smith runs.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's fifty to fifty. Bro.
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: I think I think that one's closer.
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: I think he thought more about scary He thought about
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: more about scary terry than he did DeVonta Smith.
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I'll take.
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: He said, he's taking George Pickts from elite neighbors.
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: What oh no, hell? No, okay, okay, now, bro, bro
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: stripping No ain't ain't no way, no, no, no, no, no.
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: He's taking him over Tiger Kill two Tyran.
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you know what, guys, don't listen to him.
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: Don't go listen to the fees.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: Listen to fourth and listen to fourth and fees. But
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: still sometimes players fuck up, And yeah, he's not doing
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: very good. But that take with that take.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: Hey, Josh, we're not perfect on our takes, he has.
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: I'm not perfect on my takes at least, what what
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: I'm not not perfect on my takes?
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: That's just some tashite. Yeah, I have what Hey, I
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: will say, who is the biggest bust of? Who is
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: going to be the biggest bus in all fantasy football?
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: Who did I call? Who do I call? This year? No?
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: This year? You called? I did? Bro?
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: You did? You did?
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: I did? I did? I brought evidence and everything and
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: no one listened. Ye I didn't. This isn't about me.
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: This isn't about me, Bro. I'm doing it for the team,
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: for the people, bro doing it. No, but all right,
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: let's talk about this game. We do this sidetrack today.
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: We are like which is which is a long episode? Yeah,
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: this is the sidetrack.
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: It's all good. It's all good though, Okay, go ahead.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: Okay, Ravens. I just think I'm gonna say Ravens dominated
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: this game the offense for the Steelers. This was the
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: hole back we were talking about, Like George Pickens, I
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: think the same thing happens, even if he's on the field.
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: In this one, I think the same thing happens. I
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: think they maybe score one more touchdown with George Pickens,
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: I think, But other than that, I think this is
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: the same outcome. The run game got shut down by
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: the front by the front seven for Baltimore. Baltimore's defense
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: stepped up quite a bit in this one, something they
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: haven't really done. Kyle to Hamilton made a couple of
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: big tackles in this one. Ro Kwan look look poised
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: out there. The Stellers, I think this is the disconnect.
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: I feel like TJ. Watt's kind of not been creating
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: the same type of pressure he has he's has in
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: the past or this season. The seasons he's kind of
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: the sacks are there, but he's he's not creating pressure
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: on the quarterback, which is a little weird. And Patrick
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: Queen's playing good football, But I don't know. The Stellers.
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: They're in that tier below. Like we said, they're in
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: that tier below the raven between the Chiefs, Bills and Ravens.
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: I think they're they're they're in that tier below because
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: any given Sunday is really the model of what they're
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: going Like, any given someday they can pull up and
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: play good football, but every Sunday the Bill's Chiefs in Ravens.
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: I don't think they could string it off for four
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: straight wins in a row, which would be winning the
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you know, I don't. I don't think they
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: could do that. And one thing that you said about
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: t J. Watt, you know, Micah Parsons, he has more
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: pressures already than t J Watt.
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: I think Chris Jones has more pressures than Chris jat TJ.
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: Watt's kind of falling off a cliff a little bit.
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: But nope, I'm saying he's still a great player, great
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: defensive player.
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: But give me TJ.
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: Watt as far as stats like, as far as stats wise,
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: he's fallen off and all these other guys who have
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: missed games are right there next to him. But I
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: just think the Ravens they needed this game right here.
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: They're able to run the football whenever they needed to
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: Derrick Henry kind of struggled as far as getting himself going.
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: This was a Vinus Derrick Henry game. I know there
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: was no touchdown, But Lamar Jackson is back in the
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: MVP conversation, and if he has a great game tomorrow
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: against the Texans, that may win him the MVP.
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: I hate what they did to these four teams on Saturday,
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: the ones that played on Saturday, you put it play
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: on Wednesday. It's the dumbest thing they could do, Like,
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: like me as a Chiefs fan, like Chris Jones, Juwan Taylor,
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: like a couple of guys got hurt in that game,
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: like and they need a whole week to recover, and
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: they're only gonna get three days.
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: Three days, bro, it's like a Thursday night football game
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: for him, that's what.
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: Not even it's like you played on Monday and playing
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: on Thursday. No, it's like close to that.
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: No, well, it's it's four days because Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Oh, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Monday, Tuesday.
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: Damn, damn, damn.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: I thought. I don't know why I thought it was
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: like a Thursday night football game because Monday Tuesday win. Yeah,
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: it's like a Thursday night football game. That's what it is.
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: If you play Sunday, that's what it is.
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: Yeah, Saturday, Monday Tuesday. Yeah.
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: And then if they play Sunday, then Monday Tuesday, it's
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: like a Thursday night football Yeah.
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: Yeah. But still that's like kind of messed up, bro,
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: Like you just like you couldn't put the Chargers and
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: Broncos to play today. They played on Thursday.
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: Yeah, that that is true. They they would have had
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: a whole week to recover. But who knows but Steelers,
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: Like I can't take much away from the Steelers. This
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: was the game that they needed. But all right, let's
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: talk about the Chiefs here. So Chiefs versus the Texans.
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: Chiefs went twenty seven and nineteen, one more win away
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: from wrapping up that one seed here, So what did
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: you take away from this one?
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: Also?
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: Tank Dell get healthy. He had thirty injres of three
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: INDs and almost a years of prayers up. But what
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: did you take away from this one?
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: Let's bookle up real quick voice about it?
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: All right, bucal up, Ken City Chiefs.
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: Ken City Chiefs are willing another goddamn Super Bowl. And
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: I've said it every day every week. Let me tell
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: you why it's the best the offense has looked this
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: entire season. I don't want to hear. There was no
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: doubt in this game who was gonna win the football game.
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: It was the Kansas City Chiefs. They controlled the line
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: of scrimmage from gaming. And here's the crazy part, Danielle Hunter,
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: will Anderson, where were they at this entire game? Where
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: were they at the entire game? And ever since Joe
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: Tony had moved out to left tackle, I don't think
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: we can do it six straight weeks. I don't think
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: Joe Toney can be our starting left tackle for six
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: straight weeks. But him going out there has really elevated
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: our team a little bit more. Having Kream Hunt Isaiah
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: Pacheco back, having two guys that can carry the load
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: take a lot of pressure off is improving a lot.
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: But what we have, what we saw this week was
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: Hollywood come back and still fold and get eight targets immediately,
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: eight targets immediately. He was running routes. Him and de
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: Hop are going to open up this field so much
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: for Xavier Worthy, and we saw it in this game.
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy seven catches, sixty five yards, a touchdown, nine,
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: three rushes ten yards. It wasn't much, but Xavier Worthy
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: also the catch he made on the sideline that went
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: out of bounds. That's the type of stuff we're seeing
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: now with Hollywood Brown on the field because you have
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: that other element. When you thought you could guard the
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: Chiefs one on one, you can no longer do that
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: because you have d Hop, you have Hollywood, you have
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: exaber Werth, you have Travis Kelcey and Noah Great and
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: no Gray Is. It's gonna be crazy to say, but
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: this season, Noah Great is playing good football and he's
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: leading our team in touchdowns just so you know. So
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: it's like there's too many guys to guard now one
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: on one, and especially guys that are man beaters d
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: Hop and Hollywood Brown who are some of the best.
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: And Hollywood Brown against the zone is like is up
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: there in the NFL. So he's gonna find his ways
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: to get up And we saw in this game and
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: there is a couple of misconnection throws between him and
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes when it just comes to repetition, when it
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: comes to RepA and it's gonna be there and then
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: and I think, I think they're still holding back de
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: Hop a little bit. I think I still think they're
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: holding back just a little bit. I mean, he was
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: trying to hit d Hop a couple times in this
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: game on some big throws and he connected on him.
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: So it's it's just and that one on the sideline
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: where he just de Hop was gonna come back with, Yeah,
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: that's gonna be there every in the in the playoffs.
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: So and then and the cream Hunt still again in
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: the red zone. There's there's not many people in the
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: red zone better than Cream Hunt and in the NFL
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: when it comes to playing running back, and that's in
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: his prime, that's in everything. That's just how it's been
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: his entire career. But as far as as far as
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: that our defense still holds up shere, McDuffie's an interception machine.
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but that's just that's what's
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: going on. Jaden Hicks interception machine. As far as his
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: textan side, As far as his textan side, I don't
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: think they're gonna do anything in the playoffs. I don't
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: think the Texans are going to do anything in the playoffs.
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: I think I think this is a game that you
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: wanted to come out and show that you can compete
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: with the top teams. But so far this season they
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: haven't done that. They have not been able to do that.
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: They they they lost the Packers, they lost to the Chiefs.
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: I know there's a couple other games that they lost
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: against some big time opponents. C J. Stroud tank Dale
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: looked like he had this offense moving. He was moving
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: this offense. Yeah, but as soon as he goes down,
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: it kind of reverted back to a couple of like
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: back to a little bit of inconsistencies. I understand people
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: are people are looking at why Joe Mixon stats. I mean,
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: the Chiefs have done this to every running back they play. Yeah,
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: that's just the thing. So but they have to be
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: able to compete. And this defense was getting had in
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: this game, and you're gonna play some top offenses game
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: in and game out, and so this Texan seems a
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: little bit scary for me to kind of have a
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: lot of confidence in them going into the playoffs.
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is that Bobby Slovak, he
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: took a dip down and c J. Stroud there's a
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: sophomore slump. I just feel like all these screen passes.
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: They're using this as a staple in their offense. A
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: screen pass, yes it's good, or like something quick to
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: the receiver, Yes it's good every once in a while,
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: but using it as your formula for first and second down,
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: I don't know how many times. I don't know about you, Josh,
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: were you just knew screen pass is coming to Nico Collins.
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: Those about three or four of them right there, and
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: they lost two to three yards every time. And there's
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: a stat where it shows as far as the Texans offense,
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: they're the most team in the NF in the NFL
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: to face the most third and longs, And that's a mixture.
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: That's a mixture.
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: We're putting a high safety over Nico Collins. L they're
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: putting two guys on Nico Collins every single time, and
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: it just kind of eliminated him from the game a
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: little bit.
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And I know you're trying to get him going,
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: but there's other ways. If you're that innovative, Bobby Slovak,
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: there should be other ways you should be able to
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: get Nico Collins involved. Just get him in space. But again,
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: this is the Chiefs defense where they're just where they're
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: just locking up the Chiefs defense. You kind of expect
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: us when you play them. But xavier' Worthy, this dude, now.
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: I don't know what it was from last three weeks.
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: Yeah, last last three weeks, he's been on fire, and
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: I feel like Hollywood Brown. Now that he's there, Xavier Worthy,
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: He's gonna get a lot of one on ones. He's
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of this opportunity, and I think
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: he's gonna be the X factor for the postseason. I
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: know there's Pacheco Kareem Hunt a nice run game, but
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be there. And Travis Kelce at
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: this point, I'm not gonna look at the stats with
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: Travis Kelce. They're they're Travis Kelce. Yeah, they're on Travis Kelce.
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: Because they talked about it mid game where Travis Kelce,
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: like him and No Gray ran the same route on
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: different sides, but they all gravitated towards Travis Kelcey No
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: Grade and Travis Kelce just goes, he just points at
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: him and No Gray's open. And like Patrick Mahomes said
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: himself that he went back and watched a lot of
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: film over the last couple of weeks and in the
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: past years that Noah Gray and Travis Kelce have played,
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: every time Travis Kelce has caught the ball, Noah Gray
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: has always been open. So it's like that's and that's
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: and and that's scary that Mahomes already is realizing that
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: now because now it's just another weapon at it. And
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: Noah Gray, we signed no Grade to a three year contract,
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: like he's not going nowhere, Like he's definitely gonna be
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: a fullal point in his offense. And we saw it,
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: saw it this year. It's gonna be a whole nother
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: element going into the playoffs. And like we said, the
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: Bills say they're holding back plays. There's no team that
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: holds back more plays. City Chiefs.
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so always do.
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: It's gonna this This playoff run is going to be
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: an immaculate, an immaculate run. I just feel it.
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: As of right now, the Chiefs, they're looking damn good.
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: They're clicking out the right time like normal. But all right,
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: last game of the week that we're going to talk about,
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: this had big playoff implications. Pretty much, whoever clinches this
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: or wins this game clinches a playoff spot. Right here
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: to not technically, but pretty much. Chargers beat the Broncos
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty seven right here and shoot out here. Yeah,
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: big game. What'd you take away from this one?
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: Big game by the Chargers, especially coming back in this one.
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: I think in this one it looked like a little
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: bit raps just Herbert didn't get going, But when that
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: fourth quarter came around, he turned into a different guy.
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: I will say that. And we've talked about it before,
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: You've talked about it, especially how where the Chargers have
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: been down in multiple games by like fourteen plus points
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: and have comeback and a majority of them and they
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: can't play like that in the playoffs. They cannot play
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: like that in the playoffs. But unless you're the Kensa
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: City Chiefs. Not to choot my own horn, but the
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, I mean the Los Angeles Chargers, they
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: were they're able to do it, and I think in
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: this one it took a little bit for Ladi McConkie
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: to get going, and but they made the right plays
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: when it met at the most and the Broncos kind
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: of shut down a little bit. They were not able
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: to answer the call, answer the bell. And that's the
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: problem that I have with the with the Broncos is bonicks,
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: I think, and it's true. There was a thing that
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: came out by ESPN one reason why your team's not
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: winning Super Bowl, like why your playoff team's not winning
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and the Broncos was straight up bone nicks.
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: And it's true because the game. Yeah, when the game
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: matters the most, the experience matters, and that's what Justin
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: Herbert brings to the table again, especially in this game,
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: and that's why the Chargers won this one. They were resilient,
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: they showed up when it mattered the most, and they
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: got the job done.
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. And I just think we always
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: talk about Justin Herbert. Does he belong in that top
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: five quarterback discussion that fourth quarter like you were saying,
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: he proved exactly why. And those off platform throws or
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: especially the one where he was rolling to the left
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: and threw cross body and it was on a laser
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: right to Joshua Palmer. I believe that's against one of
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: the best defenses in the NFL, the Denver Broncos. This
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: is the reason why they've been winning. And I just
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: think that this second half from the Chargers just overall, collectively,
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: they shut down the Broncos. The Broncos in the first half,
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: it was a tell of two halves. Bo Knicks, he
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: was on fire, wasn't missing any throw. Almost anything Sean
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: Payton was calling was just money. At that point. It
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: was pretty much a guaranteed five yards. But this is
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: where the culture switched from the Chargers has happened. And
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: I just think that, yes, the Chargers, they are gonna
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year. And I'm gonna stand by this.
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: I know Lad McConkey, he's having a damn good year,
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: but I think since he came out late in the
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: draft he is a polished receiver, I don't think he
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: could ever be a number one receiver in my opinion.
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: I think he's a good slot guy, but I think
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: he's a number one.
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: And so zire, don't even get into this, even get
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: into an argument with that guy.
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: Please, Oh no, we're We're not going to start this. No,
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: but no, Lad mcconcky, personally me, in my opinion, I
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: don't think he could ever be a number one. They're
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: just missing a true number one from being a real
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: contender next year.
- 1:16:19Speaker 2: And JK.
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: Dobbins is coming back next week, so the run game
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: is going to be there. I just think that there's
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: something holding the Chargers back. I don't know exactly what
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: it is. You know what I think they are. I
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: think they're a better version of the Steelers of offensively.
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
- 1:16:35Speaker 2: Yeah? I think. I think. I think the thing is
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: Herbert can bring more to the table than Russell Wilson
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: right now.
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: Yeah, no, by far. And the Broncos I think, well, honestly,
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: they play the Bengals and then they play the Chiefs.
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: Those aren't those aren't two? And if the Chiefs lose tomorrow,
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: you better win Saturday because the Chiefs there is pretty
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: much going to be a playoff type game for them
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: the last week of the season. So so yeah, but
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: all right, all right, Josh, any last takeaways before we
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: do our so called MVPs from this week.
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: No, I think that's what I'm gonna roll with all
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: that we said. We talked way too much on this part.
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: Yeah, there're way too much. But it's all good. But
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: all right, last thing before we get out of here,
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: so called MVPs of the week. One player that stood
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: out throughout the entire week of this NFL week. So
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: who's your so called MVP.
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go with my boy, Keenan Allen.
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: I'm just getting going with so called MVP just for
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: what the valiant effort he put up for my team
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: and can thank you Keenan Allen. That's my so called
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: MVP of the week.
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: I would have gone Jonathan Taylor, but you eliminated me
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: in one of the playoffs league or fantasy football playoffs.
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: I'm a little bit salty. I'm gonna give it to
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson here ten catch one hundred and forty four
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: yards two tutters against the Seattle Seahawks, A good damn secondary.
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: So that's my so called MVP. But all right, any
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: last words, Josh.
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: No, that's it for me. That's it. We got another
- 1:18:00Speaker 2: part of do here in a second.
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