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Cowboys vs Lions DFS Showdown | Week 14 TNF | NFL Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, ball system's gone clear the lifting. What's up everyone?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the Thursday Night Football Showdown Show here on
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  Speaker 1: We've been complaining about it for a little while. I'll
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  Speaker 1: save my little Tambo tangent here in a minute, but
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  Speaker 1: we got the Cowboys at the Lions. Gonna break it
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  Speaker 1: all down from a DFS perspective, DraftKings fan duel captains,
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  Speaker 1: to target, value plays, injury news, all that and more.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we're going to talk about how to play,
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  Speaker 1: not just who to play? And who got you here?
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  Speaker 1: With my guy title as always, I got to bring
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  Speaker 1: you in first. No Jersey man went raw dog on us.
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  Speaker 1: No golf, no dak, no nothing. What's going on? My friend?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just decided to set this one out. Lions have
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  Speaker 2: obviously pissed me off lately for a variety of reasons,
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  Speaker 2: which I'm sure we're going to touch on all throughout
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  Speaker 2: the show, so I couldn't go with the lions here
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  Speaker 2: today and then like the Dak stuff makes sense, but
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  Speaker 2: it's like, man, I'm not ready to like fully shit
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  Speaker 2: on my lions yet, so I had to show a
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  Speaker 2: little respect just sitting it out. It was close though
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  Speaker 2: I did did bring it down here. It is sitting
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  Speaker 2: close to me, so if something pops up during the show,
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  Speaker 2: I will not hesitate to put it on, but couldn't
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  Speaker 2: open the show wearing it.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see that we got a good game, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Big, total, relatively close, spread, a lot of different ways
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  Speaker 2: to go, some injury news that we're waiting on. I
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  Speaker 2: guess everyone's kind of just assuming a Monra's audism practice
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  Speaker 2: all week is out. I think there is a chance
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  Speaker 2: he tries to play, because I mean, they could be
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  Speaker 2: really screwed if he sits like their offense is definitely
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  Speaker 2: not the same.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll talk through it all.
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  Speaker 2: But you got to kind of assume at this point
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  Speaker 2: that Monrod does sit out tonight.
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  Speaker 1: If anything like his dad man, you know, world strongest Man,
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  Speaker 1: he might try it up. Tough guy, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see if if we get that news and what
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  Speaker 1: type of effect that might have. Title I got to
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  Speaker 1: bring you in next my friend, it's another Thursday, kicking
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  Speaker 1: off week fourteen. We of course will have the ship
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  Speaker 1: of games winners announced here shortly for the head tohead
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  Speaker 1: this week, as well as the share ship for the
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  Speaker 1: Wildcat with two hundred k up top a title. My friend,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on? A really good game, a meaningful game
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  Speaker 1: if nothing else for Thursday this week with the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: at the Lions here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, we finally got a really good game. I
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  Speaker 3: think on Thursday what should be three and a half
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  Speaker 3: point favorites the Lions fifty four and a half total.
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  Speaker 3: One of the biggest we've seen on Thursday, week fourteen
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  Speaker 3: is awesome. Shout out to my best ball people out there.
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  Speaker 3: We were talking little pre show last week until the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: so I know, Philly, he's got a good advance, right.
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  Speaker 3: If you like where you're at, hopefully you get in.
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  Speaker 3: And if you don't like where you're at, hopefully you
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  Speaker 3: can backdoor a second and first place to get there.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, very meaningful game. Survivor's streets are getting fun always,
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  Speaker 3: NFL getting fun, big prizes, playoffs coming up pretty soon. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it goes by too fast, we always say it. But great, great,
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  Speaker 3: game tonight. A lot of money to be made.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. I might be stuck with the mustache for
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  Speaker 1: a whole season anyway, because my closest call was last week.
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  Speaker 1: Had some runs in the five point fifty five. It's
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  Speaker 1: not much in a twenty dollars, but a top one hundred.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like sixty eighth or something. So
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  Speaker 1: had a shot last week to get rid of the stash.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, good, good run at it. Our guy
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  Speaker 1: Tyler is up in the air. He says, thirty thousand feet.
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  Speaker 1: This should make for a quick flight. So thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining us from high in the sky. I love
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  Speaker 1: to see that. That's awesome. And yeah, you talked a
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  Speaker 1: little best ball before the show. I know it's not
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  Speaker 1: for everybody, but I think it is interesting. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's always a lot of fun with these things. Your boy,
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  Speaker 1: I was saying today, I wasn't worried about Hoop talking about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, shitting on golf. I said, I'm more excited
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  Speaker 1: for title to say Isaac Teslah in the building, that's
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  Speaker 1: the best best ball. And most people there right now.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Teslaw. We'll be saying a lot of his name.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I don't think I'm in rough plays.
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  Speaker 3: They'll have ten days after this. I know it's a
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  Speaker 3: big game for him, but at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: the Lions hasn't looked great, but they want to do
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  Speaker 3: something in the playoffs too. They still have that mindset
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  Speaker 3: rushing him back could be bad. But yeah, we'll see
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  Speaker 3: what they said and then actives and.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see about Teslaw or we'll see about Tom kenna
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  Speaker 1: d and see what he does tonight, because that guy
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  Speaker 1: really did slot into the same brown role last week,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on Thanksgiving. It looked like a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: spot for him. And maybe we'll see how it goes
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  Speaker 1: this game. Both of them kind of seem popular. But
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  Speaker 1: Tom Kennedy two thousand in the flex. Teslaw is forty
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  Speaker 1: four hundred in the flex. But who Let's go to
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  Speaker 1: the Grand Scheme Overview first, Like I said, we'll have
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  Speaker 1: content on the way. And then just hoop, I'll kick
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  Speaker 1: it to you Grand Scheme Overview here. I know you've
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  Speaker 1: shipped on your Lion some I've shipped on the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: D and by the way, it's looked a little bit
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  Speaker 1: better the last few games, so it is interesting. But
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  Speaker 1: big boy total on this game. How do you actually
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  Speaker 1: see this thing playing out? And can make assumptions if
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  Speaker 1: then for RSB, but just to note.
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  Speaker 2: It, yeah, I mean, I think it's just best to
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  Speaker 2: assume that he's out. I mean, obviously, if he's in,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's one hundred percent, and it kind
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  Speaker 2: of really I mean, if he's in, it really muddies
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  Speaker 2: up this game in terms of the showdown slate because
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  Speaker 2: we have a lot of value plays that are contingent
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  Speaker 2: on him sitting, Like if he doesn't play, or if
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  Speaker 2: he does play, we lose a lot of value plays.
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  Speaker 2: Then we're looking at guys like Turpin and Floorny, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the kickers defenses will become more popular. We have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of cheap plays that are contingent on him sitting,
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  Speaker 2: So it would kind of flip everything. I have to
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  Speaker 2: assume that he sits, and all our stuff obviously will
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  Speaker 2: be updated if he does indeed play. The first thing
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  Speaker 2: that definitely stands out to me, and we talked about
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  Speaker 2: it a little bit pre show is the fact that
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  Speaker 2: you know, the two most popular captain players are looking
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  Speaker 2: to be Jamison Williams and Jamier Gibbs, and for the
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  Speaker 2: obvious reasons, Noah manra both those guys have huge upsides.
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  Speaker 3: Jamison Williams has been phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: Recently and then when a Monro went out, it was
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  Speaker 2: clear they're just feeding him. Uh but man, the matchup
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  Speaker 2: for Ceedee Lamb, George Pickens, Dak Prescott looks really good.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like a flip Flipperroose situation situation here where
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  Speaker 2: early on in the season we're picking on Dallas's defense
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  Speaker 2: because they're giving up the big plays and their secondary
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  Speaker 2: is terrible. Now that's what the Lions have. Like the
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  Speaker 2: Lions secondary is terrible. It's beat up. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: starters really haven't. Like Terry and Arnold. He's got to
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  Speaker 2: be like the most overrated guy to come out of
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  Speaker 2: that draft. Like everyone it's a name and everyone's excited
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  Speaker 2: about him. He's terrible, like he gets beat everything, like
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  Speaker 2: I watched the lot Like he never makes a play,
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  Speaker 2: like never makes a play or defensive pass interference one
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  Speaker 2: of the two. So him being on I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's a big deal. They're already bad and now the
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  Speaker 2: backup is probably just as bad as him. So to me,
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  Speaker 2: like man the Ceedee Lamb stuff, the George Pickens, the
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  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott situation I think is really really good. They're
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  Speaker 2: still in a Dome similar situation here facing a bad defense.
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  Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson can't get home, like he has not gotten
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  Speaker 2: to the quarterback at all. Teams have done a really
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  Speaker 2: good job of kind of double teaming him, and if
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  Speaker 2: he's not getting there, no one else's so it makes
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  Speaker 2: the defense really ineffective. So I really if it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be Jamison Williams and Jamier Gibbs, I get all the
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  Speaker 2: ownership at Captain like you can get Cede Lamb probably
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  Speaker 2: around ten percent, picking the round ten Dak a little
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  Speaker 2: less than that, and then if you want to make
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  Speaker 2: like an even bigger flip like Javonte Williams, low ownership.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be more focused on the Dallas guys
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  Speaker 2: up top opposed to Jamison Williams Gibbs. If you're building
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of teams, yes you can include Williams and Gibbs,
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  Speaker 2: But for me personally, I love the Dallas side up
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  Speaker 2: top a lot more. And that's not like the opposite
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  Speaker 2: bias approach. I mean, I just honestly believe it's a
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  Speaker 2: better situation.
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  Speaker 3: For the Dallas offense tonight.
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  Speaker 2: So that's kind of how I'll be looking at it.
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  Speaker 2: Like definitely no golf. I mean, and I know, Tambo,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you'll talk us into quarterbacks. You are not talking
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  Speaker 2: me into playing Jared Goff today. I don't care what
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  Speaker 2: you say, speak positively about him. I'll just take my
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  Speaker 2: earbuds out and then just give me the thumbs up
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  Speaker 2: when you're ready to move on, because you're not talking
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  Speaker 2: me into golf.
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  Speaker 4: Up top.
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  Speaker 2: The one guy I really like and he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be popular, but he shouldn't be popular up top is
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  Speaker 2: Tom Kennedy. You kind of touched on it a couple
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  Speaker 2: of times. He slid right into that a Monra role
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  Speaker 2: when a Monra went out last week. And is he
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  Speaker 2: going to produce like a Manra?
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  Speaker 3: Probably not. Is he going to.
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  Speaker 2: You know, fill the shoes and get all the volume
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  Speaker 2: that a Monra gets?
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  Speaker 3: Probably not? But he is what two thousand right, super.
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  Speaker 2: Cheap three thousand up top, and I think he has
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  Speaker 2: twenty point upside, like if he can get I think
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  Speaker 2: he can get six for eighty and a touchdown, and
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  Speaker 2: I think that is basically exactly twenty points. I think
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  Speaker 2: he can do that, and I don't think many people
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  Speaker 2: are gonna play him up top. And it gets you
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  Speaker 2: the ability to get all the studs. You might want
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  Speaker 2: to look to leave a little money on the table. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: he's showing up at We got him at like two
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  Speaker 2: percent owned up top. So that's the one little bonus guy.
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  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people, if they're going
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  Speaker 2: to make that sort of move, it's probably gonna be
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  Speaker 2: with Tesla and not Kennedy. I prefer Kennedy up there
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  Speaker 2: over Tesla. But really for me, it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: more Dallas up top Tom Kennedy I like. And then
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  Speaker 2: you know, you got to decide what you want to
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  Speaker 2: do with Jamison, Williams and Gibbs, because if if a
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  Speaker 2: monra Is is really out those guys, the ownership could
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  Speaker 2: touch forty percent combined with those two.
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  Speaker 1: Man. The chat said it Tyler, our boy who is
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  Speaker 1: locked that's the that's the show. I think we locked in.
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  Speaker 3: I got nothing to say.
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  Speaker 1: Fuel differences like this guy take Detroit and golf hate
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  Speaker 1: plus Allis and dak love to combine to make this.
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  Speaker 1: I've never heard who have a runout like that, just
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  Speaker 1: so clean. The guy is absolutely dialed locked in. It
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  Speaker 1: should be ready to go for tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 4: We just needed to pay off tonight. If not, it's
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  Speaker 4: all for nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Well we know what that dark jersey's for now. It's
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  Speaker 1: a little ear muffs for right now. When I tell
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  Speaker 1: you why Golf is one of.
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  Speaker 3: The best captains on the Slate, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, you literally get the best spot you could ever
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  Speaker 1: ask for from Slate dynamics perspective. People always were about, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you said Goff is good and then he sucked in
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  Speaker 1: the game. It's like, I don't care about that. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just playing the game. But the thing is it might
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  Speaker 1: be for later tonight, a little little noose over they
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to get too dark on the people,
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  Speaker 1: but if it doesn't go your way after how dialed
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  Speaker 1: in you are, that'd be a bad scene. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: loving it. I'm happy you got the goods.
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  Speaker 2: Jared DK balance go off in the wrong direction. That
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  Speaker 2: that's that's what's going to happen there.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see. But just so you know, if
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  Speaker 1: your boy Tom Kennedy has a good game, it's most
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  Speaker 1: likely because Jared Goff is having a pretty good one himself.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see. It's kind of correlated to kind of
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  Speaker 1: tied together, but we'll see how it shakes out. Title.
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  Speaker 1: Any thoughts on just how you see the game playing out.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be full on, like you can get
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  Speaker 1: into your captains right after, but just first off thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on how you see the game play out here with
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  Speaker 1: the two teams.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys move the ball, and I think
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  Speaker 3: the Lions moved the ball in the sense I think
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  Speaker 3: they moved the ball, but also did they just go
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  Speaker 3: forward on fourth down so much that there's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: point score like regardless of the outcomes, So that fifty
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  Speaker 3: four and a half total, I mean it, I'm in
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  Speaker 3: lockstep with it. Cowboys defense has definitely improved throughout the year,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean they still Gibbs, They're still Jamo,
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  Speaker 3: And I'm very interested to hear the Hoops take on
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  Speaker 3: Dan Campbell calling the plays. I know it's been bad,
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  Speaker 3: too solid to really bad, and I think recency bias.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people are on the really really bad
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  Speaker 3: train to do both head coaching. I mean and calling
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  Speaker 3: the plays like he's got to figure at least one
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  Speaker 3: of them out, because some of his decisions to go
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  Speaker 3: forward a little tough, some of the play calls. He's
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  Speaker 3: just so stubborn on running the ball at certain times too,
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  Speaker 3: like he has something in his mind, we're gonna establish it,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna do this, and he just doesn't think of
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  Speaker 3: anything else. So I'm definitely curious to hear your take
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  Speaker 3: on Yeah, we just hop into real quick to talk through.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that's where they missed Ben Joins in
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  Speaker 2: the moment because he was just way more creative with
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  Speaker 2: this stuff. Dan Dan Campbell has just been very robotic
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  Speaker 2: in the way he's calling these plays, Like if he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't hit Jamison Williams on a slant route, like nothing
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  Speaker 2: else has really worked recently, so he continues to go
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  Speaker 2: to like the Jamison william cut across, slant route, whatever
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  Speaker 2: you want to call it, and if it's not there,
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  Speaker 2: it's just it's done. So like the the I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't think like he's doing a very good job.
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  Speaker 2: He has been very stubborn. They keep talking, He's like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'll play to our strengths. Like all that
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  Speaker 2: means is I'm just going to continue to go for it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: That's like the that's our DNA on the field, Like
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  Speaker 2: we're going to continue to be aggressive and go for it.
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  Speaker 2: But like if you don't have a monro, like you
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  Speaker 2: got to switch it up like a little bit, Like
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  Speaker 2: you can't. You can't be that aggressive if you're missing
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  Speaker 2: your best, second, best offensive weapons. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a disaster. I'm obviously pretty down down on
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  Speaker 2: the whole line situation right now, so maybe a little
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  Speaker 2: bit biased, but it hasn't been good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we need to each Dan Campbell the
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  Speaker 1: classic DFS line, it's not who you play, it's how
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  Speaker 1: you play them, because he is very much just get
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  Speaker 1: these guys the ball guy, and it's like, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: you have to be able to get them in space
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  Speaker 1: and get them open and have it make sense, not
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  Speaker 1: just put him into a trap. And that's what Ben
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  Speaker 1: Johnson was so good at and now has been so
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  Speaker 1: good at kind of making his offense work over in Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: even when Caleb Williams doing like absolutely nothing. Romo dunes A,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the last few games at least has not
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  Speaker 1: been good like these type of setups where he's still
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  Speaker 1: making it work. So yeah, I think you called that
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  Speaker 1: perfectly titled. I'll let you go right into your captain thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: who kind of gave some thoughts on his stuff earlier.
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  Speaker 1: I'll save the Jared goffrant and a little bit, but
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  Speaker 1: anything else you got to add, and then you can
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  Speaker 1: take captains up top.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Nothing really, I mean, Hoo did a great job.
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  Speaker 3: Not even that we differ or like I'm in the
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  Speaker 3: same page for most of the stuff. But my favorite
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  Speaker 3: captain is Gibbs, and for the sense of I just
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  Speaker 3: think if they win this game, which just three and
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  Speaker 3: a half point favorites in a big total, assuming there's
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  Speaker 3: no aman Ra like he has to touch the ball
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  Speaker 3: twenty five times today. I don't think there's any other
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  Speaker 3: way about it. And if he does, we're getting a
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  Speaker 3: top three running back in football in a dome, touching
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  Speaker 3: the ball a lot against a defense. I still don't
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  Speaker 3: think it's very good. And just the reception upside, he's
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  Speaker 3: minus two fifty to score, which is by far the
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  Speaker 3: best on the slate. Minus one thirty five. Javonte next,
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  Speaker 3: minus one fifteen Dimont next and then it's all plus
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  Speaker 3: money after. Yes, he is expensive, but I actually I
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  Speaker 3: mean he's eleven K. He's the most expensive on the slate.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: But I do like that, Like I like CD, I
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: like Pickens. Jamo because of his price is gonna get
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: a lot at nine K. But I definitely like Gibbs
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: more than both quarterbacks. I do think Dak is fine.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: I'll let you talk John Goff. I don't think I'll
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: be playing him up top. The thing I can see
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: about Dak getting there is if one goes to CD,
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: one goes to Pickens, and one goes to Ferg. I
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: think that's enough where if he spreads it out that way,
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: three touchdown, three hundred yards. Even if pickens CD, they
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: have a solid game, but don't get the bonus. I
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: think it's in play and we're showing what like seven
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: percent nine percent? Maybe that's a little hot, pretty close
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: around there, but it's for sure gives a my favorite.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: Then it's CD and Pickens. Give me the receivers. Who's
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: showing to be lower owned than Jamison up top, mainly
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: due to the pricing. Props are similar as well. Eighty
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: four and a half for CD, eighty two and a
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: half for Pickens, eighty and a half for Jamison Williams. Yeah,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: I think I prefer Pickens CD a little more, but
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Jameson's fine. The ownership is scaring me if it is
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: at nineteen percent Captain though that's a big number. I
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: know twenty one percent Gibbs. I do feel very good
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: about Gibbs though after that, like it's a Slavs the
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Kennedy's of the world, Javonte Williams. I know I made
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: a case for Javonte last show. I don't love it
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: as much in this spot. You can always make a case.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: If he falls in the box twice, it's clearly though
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: for me, Gibbs CD Pickens is my favorites. From there,
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: I'll probably go Dak Jamison Williams after that.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: All right, now, I got interject because this is my
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: top pross one. Jared Goff spreads the ball around, so
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: we know that's possible too. I actually think Jerry Jones,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Dallas these guys plan is gonna just be to sellout
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: on Gibbs, and whether it works or not, nobody knows.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: It probably doesn't. Gibbs is very good at football and
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: he gets open he can do everything with the ball whatever.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: But I think if there's any cheating in the process
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: tonight to try and do that, that's gonna leave different
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: guys open in space, and that it's gonna get spread out.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: It's gonna get spread around. The other thing about Jared
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Goff is he's super squeezed. He's gonna be like four
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: times lighter on ownership then Gibbs or Jamison Williams, and
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: he squeezed right between their price point. He hurts them
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: the most if they put up the points, because if
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: it's not Gibbs putting up points, it's probably GoF throwing
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: to someone. Could it be Jamison Williams, Yes, but what
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: if it's one of those like four for seventy in
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: a touchdown type games, and then it does get spread
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: out to those other guys. So I liked your Kennedy call,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: you know with usually with cheaper captain's up top, it's trickier,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: but just the note. But if it's like Dwelly or
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Ferkser gets one, Kennedy or Tislaw gets one, Jamison only
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: gets one, Montgomery gets one on the ground, and then
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be Gough or a Cowboy. I like
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I just wanted to make the Gough case first.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I'm in on Lamb Pickens, ferguson Dak. I think the
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Cowboys are the better side. I also think from a
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: roster construction perspective tonight the way I feel a little
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: bit more locked in is I kind of like these
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: two fours either side. I think we just saw it
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the other. Now this wasn't a two four, I should
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: note this, but we just saw a very popular captain
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: shot at to Nelson Adcock from cutzwets dot com, our
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: boy over there. He's team ship at Nation. We've heard
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: in the past, love to hear that he's on a
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: heater in these unique shippers. He won a two way
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: chop with Ossimo for one hundred and sixty five K,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: he won a three way for one hundred and twenty
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: one K, and then he just won the three hundred.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: The other night he had May with I think it
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: was the defense and the kicker, no receiver, no passage,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: which is completely unique. You are going to play it
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: literally is titles saying of you know, not how often
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: you're right, it's how much you win when you are right.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: That's how to do it differently, but it just shows
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: you can play a popular captain tonight that's gonna be
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Gibbs or Williams. But if you play Williams with Goff
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and four cowboys, Williams up top. Sorry, you play Gibbs
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: up top with somebody in the flex and four cowboys.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's interesting. And then of course the other
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: side you pulled the situation. We always talk about title
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: with your Your super Bowl spot is kind of like
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: gamescript independent. You could have Pickin's up top he's just
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: that guy tonight, or Lamb up top, he's just that guy.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Attach him to Dak and fill it out with the
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: four lions. In the case that you have the Kennedy's
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to make it work, the teslaws to make it work,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the tight ends to make it work. So two fours,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: three threes, however you want to look at it. I
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: just I wanted to extend on the two fours a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: little bit. But title anything you want to add with
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: roster construction, any different thoughts there, and then you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: any takes on the golf stuff. I just think it's
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: from a slate dynamics. I think it's pretty interesting.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, game theory, it can make sense, Like what everything
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: you said, the price in between, a fourth of the ownership,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: all that, I just man like. I get Tom Kennedy
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: was fine last game, but he's throwing to some bums,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: like I think it's gonna be. I mean it was
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: when when am Andron went out, it was all Jmo,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Like if Golf's throwing for three hundred, I mean, I
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: think Jamo has one eighty of it or one ninety
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: or Gibbs us something, So totally get it. He's expensive though,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: He's the one I'll not necessarily x out, but I
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: won't get much the roster construction, I definitely do not
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: like I said that one day I didn't like Josh
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Allen or whatever, like the one fives and I headed
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: up top. So just thinking about it, I don't like
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: the five ones on either side very much. I do
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: like your two fourths, I like your threes. I think
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: we do get a competitive game. I think there's value
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: on both sides to an extent, So I do know
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I don't like five ones nearly as much. And then
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: back to that shipper, I mean we called in the
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: sense of when Drake May you could have zero pass catchers.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: You could have three pass catchers. He had zero. It
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: was a weird game how it went. But yeah, shout
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: out to him on that lineup, Like every Showdown is unique.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I would not be playing Jared Goff or back up
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: top with no pass catchers today.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, great great calling on that, that's for certain.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Whom anything you want to add just on on you know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: captain in general or anything else you're thinking of from
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a roster construction perspective before we dive into the positions.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like the five ones at all, Like
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I think I would be obviously anything can happen, Like
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: it's a one game slate, like anything can happen. I'd
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: be pretty surprised five to one hits night. So I'm
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: gonna be axing them out myself. And uh, just to
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: be clear also, I mean like once we get the
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: official word, a monra is out, like I will be
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: betting the Cowboys to win this game, just so you
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: guys know, like they are not winning. The Lions are
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: not winning this game with the manra out like I will.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: You don't even need the points, don't even do the
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the you don't need the three and a half. You
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: don't need the three.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Just take the.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Plus whatever it's gonna be, what plus like one thirty
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: or something one thirty five range, Just take that and
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: go to the cashiers age because because you've got a
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: winner there.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: We're we're all the way up to Cowboys minus sixteen
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and a half at plus nine to ten in the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: discord right now. So that's the the latest messages in
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the NFL channel for members over at ship a Nation.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: We talk all day all night in these Janne So.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Good number, man plus one fifty, like honestly says, that's
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Like that is not sorry. That is a
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: solid number, plus one fifty right now. Well, if a
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: mom Rod's out, this is a fifty to fifty ball game,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: we're getting plus one fifty on your money.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: If you're on other books like no Viig or poly Market,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: you can get as high good as plus one sixty one.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that isn't that's a strong number. I mean we're not,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: you know, pretending to be sports betting experts here, but
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to me, that is a that is a very strong number.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I'll be making a play on Dallas as soon as
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: we get confirmation that a Monro's out.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that do pretend to be
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: sports betting experts by the way, so that can give
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: me a good chuckle. But yeah, it definitely exists out
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: there for sure. It's a you know, shout out to
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: those calling them out and seeing it along the way.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: We love that because it's you know, kind of not
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: our lane that we go into. So that's perfect. But yeah,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I think this is interesting. It's gonna make for a
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: fun game. Hoop. I'm gonna stay with you. Is there
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: anything else you want to I mean, shit on golf.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: You love your boy Dak, You got the jersey ready
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to go over there. You can talk more more quarterback
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: story if you want. If not, you could take us
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: to any other running back thoughts, because we do have
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Javonte Williams, we do have David Montgomery. It's clear why
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Gibbs is the guy that we're talking about. But those
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: other guys can make things work or can fall into
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: places here where they do score touchdowns things like that
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: that can help them a ton.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean, I have shit on the Lions
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: and we've no.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Need to talk more about quarterback. We already kind of
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: covered all the quarterback stuff like for me, you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: golf in the in the flax, I'm fine with, especially
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: if you're playing like you know, obviously with Gibbs captain,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: it fits totally fine. Jameson Williams captain, totally fine. And
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I'm playing some Tom Kennedy up there and would definitely
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: want golf in that scenario. But the running backs, I'll
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: definitely flip it a little bit back to the Lions
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: side because I obviously, you know, Gibbs is in a
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: tier of his own, Like the projection is massive for
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Gibbs and the upside is obviously massive. I mean you
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: look around the industry, He's projected anywhere from twenty three
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: to twenty eight fantasy points, like that's that's big boy numbers,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: So good with him. And I do think a Mona
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: being out benefits David Montgomery a little bit too, in
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the fact that Montgummr Gibbs will be out there together
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: a decent bit, so it's going to be more reps
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: and playing time for David Montgomery. So for me, like
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: if I rank these running backs, it's Gibbs, it's Montgomery,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and then Javonte Williams.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Uh. In terms of how I'm.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Gonna play it, I love Ceedee Lamb. I love George
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Pickens like way more than Javonte Williams. So when I'm
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: looking at these running backs specifically, it's going to be
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: in that order and then you can play you know,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: some Elik Davis if you want, I know, the love
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: key guy got a little bit at four hundred. I
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: don't think you really need a luck key on the slate,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: assuming you know monras Out, so Gibbs, Montgomery, Javonte Williams,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Malik Davis for me. But I think the one that
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: could be key on the slate is definitely David Montgomery.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Just from a volume standpoint. He has to get more
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: work with Saint brown Out. I mean, Gibbs is going
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: to be running more routes. So I think Montgomery is
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: a sneaky good play here on the slate.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I like that call to title. What do you got
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: to add at the running back position? And he touched
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: on a little when you went through the captain stuff,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But anything to add on these other options here?
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: No, not really. I wanted to ask cool, like what
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: would you say Montgomery's rushing at tempt prop that prop
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: at because he's seven k I mean, like, what works
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: he getting I think he could.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you would want the Lions playing with
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: the lead, So like if a Lion's winning, a Lion's
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: playing with the lead game script, I think, you know,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the work obviously goes up, but I think you could
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: get twelve thirteen carries and then maybe a couple dump offfs.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I mean I think he could get maybe fourteen touches,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: like especially if they're going to use Gibbs more in
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: the passing passing game tonight. So I think he has
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: a path for a big workload. Now obviously this is
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: it's much better if the Lions are up and playing
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: with the lead.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense maybe, like especially handbuilding if you
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: play Montgomery build that way because just like he's seven k,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: that's a pretty big price tag and the props just
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: don't excite me. Nine and a half rushing attempt with
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: a good amount of juice on the under thirteen and
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: a half receiving prop Like even if he falls in
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: the box at minus one p fifteen, that might not
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: be enough at seven K. So what Hoops saying, I mean,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: he knows his team more than anyone, and if it
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: is when they get up, like he gets more work
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I think you should. Again, it's really hard if you're
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: building one hundred and fifty teams analyzing all of them,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: But if you're only building a handful, I think your
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: David Montgomery team should tell a story because his projection
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: would be a lot higher if he had fourteen rushing
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: attempts today. There's just no doubt about that. So that's interesting.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'll have a little more.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're showing eighteen percent, Like he has
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: multiple touchdown upside. It's an uncomfortable price at seven K,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: and you know, more times than not, the play is
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: probably not going to work. But I think he has
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: a path to more work tonight, and I think he
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: has a He definitely has a path to multiple touchdowns.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: So I think that's the argument in his favor, low ownership,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: path to more work and path to multiple touchdowns.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, he got a wildcat Harry that he converted on,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Like Dan Campbell's willing to do it, and I take you here,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: totally fine playing Gibbs and him together, Yeah, which is
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: pretty murk. Yeah, so yeah, that's interesting to be honest,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: outside of that, Like, I really like Gibbs, Like I said,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I'm fine with Javante, but I definitely prefer Jamison for
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: cheaper pickings, for more CD for more. I'm not sure
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: how much I'll get there, but the field will as well,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: So I do still prefer Javonte over Montgomery off choosing
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: it's close. I love Gibbs, nothing more to say about him.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: And then yeah, the backups. It does make it tough,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: especially with Tom Kennedy projecting for a real number that
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: will be on the field, like the let Keys, the Davis,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: they actually have to do something maybe Lutkey. I mean
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: he is on the field, he's a good blocker, he
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: can go out to the flat like maybe, but it's
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: really hard for me to make. Like last show, I
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: think we nailed it. Stevenson Singletary, we like the backups
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: quite a bit. I truly don't like the backups much
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: in this one.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: What about Malik the freak on Thanksgiving? He got the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: job done that but.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I only had you only had nine snaps, like, I
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: just want him on the field more. But he got in.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: He hit the whole hard, and yeah, I agree, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: just he's not on the field enough.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, So two props that are
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the exact same what's more like, what's what do you
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: like better? Title you like David Montgomery fifteen rush attempts
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: or Cowboys by fourteen?
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Ault line David Montgomery fifteen rushing attempts for.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Crazy, that's the same odds and who party fourteen?
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: That's wild.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I still would take the I'd take the Cowboys winning
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: by fourteen.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, one, then I gotta bum Montgomery all
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: the way down.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Come on, I would be rather that's crazy.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: That's the same line. Wow, that is interesting. That is
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: that just makes me money on it. I know you're
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: trying to talk to me in a little bit because
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I was gonna come with I hate Montgomery on this
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: LD at the price because of the problem mainly but
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: the game script dependent thing like hoops saying, I think
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: you really should be building that. Most people aren't playing
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty teams. Really look at those Montgomery lineups.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I should have added sort of team.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: It's definitely a specific sort of team that you're playing
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Montgomery with, Like you don't want them in the the.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Golf Jamis and Williams.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Heavy stuff, Like you don't want him in that sort
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: of lineup. I think you do want them with Gibbs, like,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: what is the one way the Lion if with a
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: manra out, what's the one way they would love to
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: win this game? It would be with Gibbs and David
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Montgomery doing everything and just pounding Dallas. Like, if that's
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: available for them tonight, they're doing it.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was just gonna say. So I
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: forgot to mention this in the Captains. I'll mention it now.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Circling through the running back thing. He's the other guy
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: outside of golf, and especially you don't you guys don't
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: love golf, so that's fine, but he's the other guy
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: that really hurts Gibbs and Jameson Williams. If he's taking
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: those touchdowns and if it's to hoops point of what
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: type of lineup would that be, it's to me it's
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: a Lions win and it's under It's like they ran
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the ball down their throat. They went back to that style.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: They're saying, we're not gonna get into a shootout when
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the other side has Ceedee Lamb George Pickens. That's two
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: wide receiver ones going going together. Jake Ferguson, Javonte Williams,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: all these guys that can move the ball around with
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: we're trying to keep this clock moving, and just run
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: it through our guys Montgomery and Gibbs and see how
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: that goes. So I like that call from that perspective
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: as well. I definitely think that's a possibility. I also
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: think that's the other thing that would really hurt, even
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the golf side and the Williams side. But to me,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of those rush attempts mix
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: with those Tom Kennedy tesla if it ends up being
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: dwellier firs, like just chuck the ball short, don't let
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: this Dallas team get after us. Run that clock down
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and move it quickly and see if we can do that.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: So I don't know why they wouldn't try for that.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, at least, you know, people could say they
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: want about Dan Campbell calling the plays, but like thinking
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: about it from a head coach perspective and the game perspective,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I guess you can only do it until you can't.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: But are we that confident in the Cowboys able to
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: get it going on the other side to force that pace.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know that's what would come down to. But
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the nice thing about DFS is the game script tells
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the built So it's like those lineups all go in
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the garbage anyway, specifically in Showdown like a main slight
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: when there's ten games and so many different factors in
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: this game, it's like if you were playing for the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Lions to win at home in a sort of ground
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and pound style game. Easy to build that and easy
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: to laugh it off and throw it in the garbage
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: when it doesn't work out, because it's like I built it,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: if that happened, that didn't happen, moved to the second
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: part of the portfolio, So kick it back to you. Hooper.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Wide Receivers. You've already talked quite a bit about some
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: of these guys, but is there anything you want to
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: add or anything that we sort of missed out on
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: in either squad.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably the most when you look at
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: it from pricing perspective, value perspective, probably one of the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: most loaded wide receiver group that we've had on a
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Showdown slate in a while. I mean, you have two
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: absolute studs in Pickens and CD Lamb. I mean, both
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: of these guys can absolutely nuke a slate. They're both
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: under ten K too. Cheap for both of them. They're
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: both projected very highly CD, you know, right around twenty.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Same with Pickens, but we have i'd save even a
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: little bit, like like CD at nine and a half,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Pickings at eight and a half, like i'd have.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: These guys probably both projected over.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Twenty and just to me, both phenomenal plays, all fourmats
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Flex Captain. Then you throw in Jamison Williams, who has
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: been an absolute beast with Saint Brown out eighty four hundred.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: He's obviously going to be very popular, but we have
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: three stud spends at the.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Wide receiver position.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Then you throw in the Detroit value Teslaw, and then
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Tom Kennedy already talked about Tom Kennedy. I know he's
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: gonna be popular, but at two k like he's we
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: saw it on Thanksgiving, he's sliding into a monro role.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: That's probably one of the best roles a wide receiver
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: can have in football, especially when you got a guy
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: like Jery Golf thrown neither the ball that can't handle
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: pressure at all, looking to get rid of it quick,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: those little five six yard slants.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna be looking.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: There all day, so I'm not worried about Tom Kennedy
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: being highly owned. The way I plan to use him
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: a little bit differently, like we already talked about, is
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I'm fine using him in the captain spot. I think
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: he can legitimately get twenty and yeah it's funny, yeah hoop,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: lions can't win. But also, you know Tom Kennedy a captain,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: that's even better if the Lions don't win for Tom Kennedy,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: that's ideal. If the Lions don't win, if you're playing
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Tom Kennedy, if you're going heavy on Tom Kennedy, you
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: want the Lions to be playing from behind, trust me.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: So it correlates perfectly. And then like just because with
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: with Tesla and Kennedy getting so much ownership, like Turpin Florna,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: a perfect ways to make those lineups different, Like they
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: have to be super low owned and then you really
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: don't have to worry about anyone else at the wide
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: receiver position on the slate. So you know, I'm gonna
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: have some Turpin, I'm gonna have some Flornoy and they're
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: right in that same pricelet range as Tesla and Kennedy.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: So just great ways to get different if you have
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: a really popular team. If you're handbuilding, you have a
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: really popular team and you're gonna end on Tesla or.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Kennedy and you don't need them really for correlation purposes.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Going to one of those Dallas guys, you know a
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: good good pivot for sure, So positions loaded from from
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: top to bottom.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: It is. There's also a possibility here title double dipping
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Cavante Turpin over here. If you want to get in
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: on the action with the Cowboys defense and you got
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys winning it, maybe it's he's helping that. But
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts outside of it? You know, everything
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: we've already talked about is anthing you want to add
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: when it comes to it. The chat's talking about preseason
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Dominic Lovett. I don't like enough about all of these
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: guys to put them in. But when you're building a portfolio,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: obviously some of them, like Hoop said, will come in
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: lower owned. That could be your separators in there. What's
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: your thoughts.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Back in the day, I was on the preseason grind,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: not anymore so. I'm not sure who that guy is.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: If he beats me, I don't think I'll have him. Really,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: not much more to add about the main guys. We
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: know who CD and Jamison Williams and Pickens and all
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: that is. I will say I think, like I said
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: up top, Lamb Pickens, I definitely prefer to Jamison Williams.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I just think at the end of the day, the
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: ownership because the price discount. And I'm also a little
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: worried for the sense maybe the Cowboys do just absolutely
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: key on key in on him. I'm approaching this with
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: the Lions favor that this has to be a Gibbs game. Again,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with Jamison Williams. The Cowboys stuff. Then
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: I have a question for you guys. But the Cowboys
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: stuff like the Turpins, the Florinois. The Tolberts now got
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: more difficult because Tolbert played more last week and rotated
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: in more than he has previously, so in result, Florine's
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: snaps went down. Turpin's just a little bit. Turpin's definitely
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: my favorite of the three for the sense of he's
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: just the gadget guy that they get them the ball
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: and design plays. He can make plays, whereas tolber and
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Florine are just normal receivers that are like the fourth option,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: fifth option on some of these plays. So I'm good
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: with Turpin. I really don't like FLORINOI or Tolbert much
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: at all. And my question to you guys is and
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: then it's yeah, it's Tesla, it's Kennedy. But like I
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: think the whole industry is probably light on this Tom
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Kennedy ownership. Well, what do you guys really think it
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: comes in? And I think that's an important question.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's possible it gets much higher.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: After thirty like thirty seven in the in the flagship, like,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: what how high are we taking? What I was thinking, Yes, okay, yeah,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Like if that's the case, just slide him into that
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: spot that has that CPT next to it.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be low. That'll definitely be low. But in
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: the flex it just made like I think I prefer
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: spending a little more for for Tesla. He has better
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: prop a little bit, I know, not two thousand dollars more.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Tesla will be out there in two receiver sets with Jamison.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: It's not gonna be Kennedy. He'll take over the amen
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Ra roll. But like Hoop said, when you play Kennedy,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: if he fully gets there, like I think the Cowboys
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: jump out early and that's when you unique, Kennedy. I
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: think Dan's gonna try and run the football, maybe more
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: heavy personnel, like if this game's closer, that is his
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: game plan. Again, he's a solid play, but he could
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: be forty percent owned. There's a little more hesitation if
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: the number gets all the way up there. So yeah,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: the interesting point though, I do don't mind Flora I Tolbert,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: though it's harder for me to get there.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do have something you want to add there, Hoop,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: But look like you got excited for a second.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: No no, no, no found.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: A bet over there is when he just found that
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Cowboys altline boys.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the Cowboy I got the Cowboys minus fourteen tonight.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the ALLT line was just found. We saw it
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: happen real time.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Got excited.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: I had to act quick before before it moved.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So all right, I don't think I got
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: too much to add there. I guess like the I mean,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Hoop kind of said it, title kind of said it,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: but it's like more of the the adding the other guys,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Like if Flora NOI is not gonna have any ownership,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: and I think Turpin will have at least some, It's
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: like you could just swap that. I think another thing
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: people forget. We talked so much about, you know, building
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: lineups and roster construction using sabersim and partnering the stone
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: up with that. You know, if you do have a
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: gut feel, I don't want you to go change everything.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I think the you know, our data and projections team
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: is gonna do a lot better job than the average
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: person just trying to put stuff together. But if you said,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: you know what, man, I just don't believe what they're saying.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I truly think it's to be Floorinnoy instead of Turpin tonight.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: You can change their projector like, just swap it one
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: b one and then see what your lineups look like differently.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: You're not changing the whole set, you're not changing everything.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: It's still gonna run for you accordingly once you make
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: your changes. But if you have those feel plays that,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: it's your money, right, it's your feel, it's your gut,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: it's your money. If you want to go down on that,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's fine, or go up with it, then
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that's the way to do it. Where you don't have
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: to get too aggressive trying to figure out the entire slate.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: You just make some minor tweaks and then say, now
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I'll let it go to work for me. Don't ever
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: feel bad about that. I think that's the other one.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: If you've got Kennedy over Teslaw. If you like something
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: down when at the tight end you think, why would
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: people be talking about Ross Dwelly when it's to me
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be Ferkser, Well, then just change it. Because
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the projections like Dwelly more than Ferksert, the betting odds,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the boards that anytime touchdown, all that stuff, that's what
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: bleeds and leaks into the projection. So if you have
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: a feeling it's the other way, or you want to
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: go that way. If you're handbuilding, just plug it in.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Leave the money in the firks Versusdwelly case, or if
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: in the projection was for your portfolio, you can just
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: change it directly. So I'm fine with all that stuff.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I don't got too much else to add on wide
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: receiver title, go back to you at the tight ends,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: we got Jake ferguson the aforementioned with Dwelly versus Firkser,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: et cetera. And then I don't know, like it seems
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: like any given game you could see like Scoonmaker span
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Ford catch a touchdown, But then does it even matter
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: when that happens. It's hard to say. It depends on
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: how the slate goes.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we can really get a more
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: gross tight ends like Ferguson, he's always fine, but he's
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: seven point four k and it's clearly CD and Pickens
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: as this guy is like, it's a tough price take.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: He's right in that. Montgomery. I don't, I guess love
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: either price, but especially if you're dropping from Jamison Williams
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: or Pickens to one of those guys and they outscore
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: them in a vacuum, you'll be looking at the big
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: shipper for sure. So in a vacuum, I don't love
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: it much. My favorite tight end is definitely Ross Dwelly
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: at twenty eight hundred. Is he good? No, but he's
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: on the field like seventy five percent of the time
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: one and a half reception prop with juice on the
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: over all, right's favorite to catch two balls that could
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: be four maybe or five, especially when they run the
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: football or they get heavy formation. I know one of
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: these Lions fans talking about Penny Seol touchdown like they
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: don't have any of that up. We can't play it,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: but just him saying that alone just shows random stuff
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: happens at the goal line with Dan Campbell in heavy formation.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: So yeah, that price is fine. Schoonmaker Ford, if you're
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: playing seventy plus teams and you get a sprinkle, sure
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Schoonmaker would be my preferred play. But yeah, it's it's
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: not my favorite. At tight end, Dwelly's definitely my favorite.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I think books, I don't know, maybe some still have it,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: but they used to have like anyone else or any
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: other person scores a touchdown, and it was always did
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: on draftings.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I look, because they have no touchdown score. Guess what
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: that number is? Plus plus nineteen thousand.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, there you go. So yeah, no touchdown
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: scoring in this game specifically, at least there are some
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: books just go with a standard number. But yeah, yeah,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that is interesting for sure. So I think that's something too.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Is like, you know, the Ferguson call you mentioned obviously
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, I think it was like one foot away
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: from a touchdown there, or maybe it was the callback
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: because of a hold or something. Anyway, it was I
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: know for some reason I needed that on Thanksgiving and
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: it did not work out in my favor. I was
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: excited till I wasn't. But anyway, you know, like you said,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: that price really does matter, and you know the three
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: grand in savings might not be that much of a difference.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's more interesting on the Lion's side because
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: you can play a guy like Dwelly over Tesla or
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: where it's leave the money on the table. You can
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: find the money to pay up from the Kennedy to
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: the Dwelly spot, or if you have it, just leave
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: it or do whatever and play it that way if
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: you've got the money available. So I think that's kind
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: of the little things that I'd be looking at on
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the Lions side, and then also even blending some of
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: them together. Remember it's only one game that we're up
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: against here, so sometimes people are saying, well, instead of Kennedy,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play Dwelly, and then somebody else says, well,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play them both, and it's forty eight hundred
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: dollars of my salary, and let's see how that lineup
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: looks and how it shakes out. So I think that's
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: some other little things that you can consider. But who
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: do you want to add anything at the tight end position,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the Ferguson talk, which is his pricing compared to Lamb
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Pickens and how they play, and then anything on the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: lion side that you maybe some Detroit talk radio any
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: love for Dwelly versus Fergser.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't really have too much more
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: to add.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I pretty much agree with what title said. It is
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: tough with Ferguson the seventy four hundred. I mean, yeah,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: he's just like there's not enough difference between him and
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: that top tier guys like Pickens and Ceedee Lamber right there.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: It's like the only way I feel good about Ferguson
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: tonight is like Dak Prescott Captain Teams. I just don't
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: love the price on Ferguson. Dwelly is I guess gonna
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: be my favorite by default. I'll have some Ferkser and
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: these other guys. I don't know. I just don't think
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: of much, so I have nothing exciting. I've had a
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: lot of exciting stuff to say so far. Like hit
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: tight end is where it kind of comes to screeching halt,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: because there's there's not much I love here.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: If Kennedy hits in the Captain Hoops still needs CPR
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: to come back to us. This is crazy. He's hyped today. Yeah,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: what's the dwelly receiving prop? I think he says one
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: and a half juice to the over, So fourteen and
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: a half is his number?
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Man, I mean it's not good. You're gonna need these guys.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: But would you want to play left key span forard
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Elite Davis? Like that's why Tom Kennedy, I just I
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: refuse to believe he's gonna be less than thirty percent.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Like it's just the easiest click, but easy's not always good.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got almost a thirty receiving prop in some books,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: so it's like twenty eight and a half whatever, Like,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's big for a two thousand dollars price
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: tag and people.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, assuming they're going to adjust that, that's that is.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: We we have it at twenty two.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: They'll they'll get the afternoon adjustment in there, because that
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: is that's definitely.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Not Yeah, we haven't got our final that. It just
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: just went initials just before we went on the show off.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Everybody knows and I didn't mention it off the top,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: but I'll go to it now. If you do want
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: to join us. We're gonna have the Ship of Games
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: winners coming up at the end of this show for
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: this week, but there's still weeks to go, so if
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you want to get in, even just for the final
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: month of ship a Game, and then of course all
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: the content that you can use towards it. You get
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: the projections ownership the Stone, We've talked about it a ton.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: You can go to our x account at ship a
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Nation and see the breakdown from last week how I
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: built my three max lineup right off the Stone NIDS
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: and I reviewed it on Monday on this channel on
• 43:16
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• 43:18
  Speaker 1: the showdown stuff, the core reports, slate plans, education courses,
• 43:22
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• 43:24
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• 43:29
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• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I think it's like five bucks a slate or something
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  Speaker 1: for the rest of the season for that one sixty seven,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: So check that out and we'll have everything updated on
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: there well before lineup's lock and then obviously another update
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: when the inactives come out, so we stay on top
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: of our stuff for you, that's for sure, all right.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Anything you want to add hoop with the kickers and defenses,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I'll stay with you.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Definitely really like the kickers tonight. I mean two big
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: upside kickers, Brandon Aubrey and Jake Bates.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: They can hit sixty yarders with e and that is ideal.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: And you know with the Kennedy play, the Tesla play,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: like maybe the ownership gets held in check a little
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: bit on these guys, and I think.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: They're both phenomenal plays.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Aubrey fifty four hundred baits five K love both of
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: them equally. I'll definitely make sure I have some Cowboys defense.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, Jared Goff is an absolute statue back there.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I mean the blueprint to beating the Lions. It's very clear.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Just bring pressure. I mean golf can't handle it. Any
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: teams that bring pressure against the Lions have success. I mean,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: he's a statue, he's a immobile. It's just very easy.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I mean that's the reason they lose to shitty teams
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: like the Vikings. Just bring pressure, pressure, pressure, and golf
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: can't handle it. So I will have some Cowboys defense.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Prefer Cowboys over over Lions for sure, but definitely prefer
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: both kickers over the defenses.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll get to you in a sec here. Title,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I will say, like I mentioned the Golden Ship at
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: number forty two, the head to head winner will become
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: up shortly. We will let you guys know in the meantime,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: do us a favor, make sure to tap that thumbs up,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: but also let us know in the chat right now,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: what's the score of this game? What's the final score?
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: And who wins. I'm very curious that our guy are
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Investments threw it up there. He's making an investment on
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: the under pretty heavily tonight. I would assume based on
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: seventeen to fourteen being the final score. I would much
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: rather roll with that than trying to pick a side.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: And you know, if we're on a side like hoops,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: set up to the alt lines there. But very curious
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: to know what you guys got, throw it into what
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: you've got for the final score and who wins this game? Title,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on the kickers and defenses, who kind of
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: went through it all? But anything else you've got to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: add there?
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Not really, I mean both defenses under ten percent, Showdown
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: one play, random stuff can happen, helps you get more
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: unique kickers. I'm worried Dan Campbell's going to go for
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: it in marginal spots like he continues to do. But
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: with that being said, both have monster legs. I mean,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: sixty yards is in play, and DraftKings has to start
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: adding that extra point for the sixty yarder. But yeah,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I really know Hot takes that kicker.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: That is it's like a double edged sword. I agree
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: with you one hundred percent. Actually, I'm like, if you
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: if you get a six, like honestly, I think if
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: it's a seventy, it should be a seven. But of course,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: at the same toke at the same time, I guess
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: on the other side of the token of the coin
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: is that people are like, how the hell does the
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: guy get five points for just booting a fifty yard
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: field goal when in the NFL it feels like seventies
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: a layup now even though it's not quite but you
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: get what I mean. What you have to do as
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver or like as a running back, has
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: to run for fifty yards to get five points. It
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: could take them ten attempts. Our man David Montgomery in
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: a home game with a twenty eight point team total
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: is scheduled to get like nine and a half carries.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: If he averages five a carry, he still doesn't get
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: there at nine and a half. It's like, that's that's
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: what's crazy, and our other guy walks up, boots a
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: kick and gets five.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that's a very fair point. I was wondering
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: where you're going with that. I do understand. I mean
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: there's some noodle legs Kyler Santos though that these guys
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: can't be trotting out for sixties, so there is some
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: edge on determining whitch kickers do have that upside that
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: you could get it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: But now your point is it'd be better for our
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: community because we're typically overweight on the kickers, so it
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: would certainly benefit us.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the one guy you talk about, these guys can't
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: make seventies. The one guy can't even kick the ball.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Coo, oh my god. That was so embarrassing.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: That should be auto cut, like honestly auto cut from
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: from the NFL.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: I think that.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Was there.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: That's insanity.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I teased it. I said, I don't always miss my
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: kicks on purpose, but when I do, I make it
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: very obvious, like come on.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: That's that's good that it looked painful though too, I
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: mean it looked very painful.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: It's like less painful than the mob breaking his leg
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: for whatever he owes them then just to snap his
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: ankle on missing the kick on purpose to make sure
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: because that was a bad scene, like that's I don't
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I don't remember ever seeing that, to be honest, what
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: do we get for some of these scores? Twenty seven
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: to seventeen for the Cowboys, thirty four to peach my man, Mike,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: nice to see you. That's that's thirty four to twenty eight,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: thirty eight to thirty one, everyone's on the Cowboys by
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the way, thirty one to sixteen for the Cowboys, seventy
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: to nothing, man, Johnny's always in.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Here minus fourteen cashes, let's go.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: So a lot of over, a lot of Cowboys overs
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: makes me like those Montgomery lineups, the Lions unders, the
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Lions unders with the Montgomery captains and Alan dunks on
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: us at the end two with another one thirty five
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: twenty one smash the over like yeah.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: All I've I will say, all I've heard all morning
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: was was or was cowboys, cowboys, cowboys and the Lions
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: not not doing anything and actually it looks like it's
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: going yeah to the line way. Yeah, so that's that's
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: all I gotta say.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the all lines are fun to bet though they
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: definitely feel you know that I'm gonna go bet that.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I'm betting that Montgomery one ever gonna happen.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: That's crazy that they were the same as fourteen. They're
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: three and nlf point dogs in Montgomery. To get fifteen
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: carries the same as the underdog winning by fourteen points.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: That's wild.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild, especially when his like standard line at
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: night and half is just like that is what it is. Like, Yes,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: it's like the just a switch of five and a
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: half attempts, but yeah, it's it's football. It's tough, crazy,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: anything can happen this season, I will say, as we're
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: getting close to the end here anyway, just there's another one.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Our guy Gary comes through forty one, twenty seven. Boys,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: My man, even Steven had a big w earlier this
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: season and he says, you know, I'm yoloing some golf captains.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: I'm with you.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Let's roll.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: The season is wide open. Title Like, man, it is
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: nuts how crazy the ups and downs have been. We
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: say that all the time, but this this season particularly
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: feels like literally anything can happen on any given week.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I know, it's a you know, we've been following the
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Survivor streets heavy people in the Best Ball Streets DFS wise, like,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: there's been a ton of upsets. I don't know who's
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: winning who's winning the Super Bowl? If you have to
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: pick right now, that's actually a crazy thing. Tell us
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: in the chat, rams or who's winning the Super Bowl?
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Rams Ms. I think the NFC is worse than the AFC.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: I still think they're the best. The Panthers, man, it
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: depends on whatever day they wake up. But some days
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: they wake up and they'll they'll put on the fight.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm going, Rams.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Here's my squad kind of I don't know if it's
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: random or not, but I like the forty nine ers.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: Four Nunners are tough for sure. Two in the NFC.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: What twenty five to one right now?
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Wow? That division is so good, Ram, Seattle Niners.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, then you got the Cardinals like always who I mean,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: they've been in a lot of games. They just can't
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: figure out how to win a game. I mean, it's
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: how is that coach still have a job. I have
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: no clue.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Who do you want to flex on this guy?
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Right quick?
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I'll take off take off the hoodie and then do
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: a little flex show for you.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Put it.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Get on the spaghetti's get on the spaghetti.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: Yea spaghetti the next show on.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: The spaghetti strap man, put the crop top on this guy.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Be All said, yeah, the one you did pick a
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: long shot. I don't know, man, Like, it's crazy. Ravens
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: are sixteen to one. The Chiefs are sixteen to you.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Still those Ravens.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, really, I'm so scared on that team. That team
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: looks terrible.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: And the uh there these are like uh a touchdown
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: just to score touchdown odds, Like they're just so the
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: odds are just so bad.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: It's terrible.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: It's so terrible.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: It's so terrible. It's the same touchdown.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: How are the Ravens sixteen to one?
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: That's wild?
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: And if they get there, great, I'm not just saying
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: it that they're.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Like fifty to fifty to make the playoffs, like that's
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: the crazy, But that just shows you how bad I mean,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I guess they're probably a little more than fifty fifty
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: to make the playoffs. But it just goes to show you
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: how bad those odds are, Like they don't have a
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: guaranteed spot and they're sixteen to one.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Just like that for the Chiefs. I mean, they legit
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: couldn't easily miss the playoffs and they're they're favorite to
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: miss the playoffs right now.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I can get them at sixteen, but still.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Sixteen, And I agree, if I knew they're making the playoffs, yeah,
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: I'm hammering it for sure, but that's they very well
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: might miss. It's crazy.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: What is like the other team? Like, so, I liked
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Ross's comment, this is interesting about it. I know we're
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: almost Sam, we're gonna go do the FanDuel stuff, get
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: to the ship of games winners we got. We're ahead
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: of sched today. We usually try and keep it under
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: under sixty minutes. But this is like crazy shit, Like
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: this just describes the season in a nutshell. It's like
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers can go from the seventh seed
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: to the to the two seed on a bye week
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: if the game's going. I'm sure there's a lot of math. Mind,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: it's not crazy odds, but it's like that is how
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: crazy some of this stuff is the Ravens. I know
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: playing the Steelers matters huge, right, Like they're both atop
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: the FC North, but the tiebreaker will end up mattering
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: a bunch. Johnny brings up the Bears. The Bears on
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: my book are twenty five to one. He's seeing a
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: thirty four to one. They got a winning record. Somebody
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: else said this too. I thought it was interesting, was
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the this one? Imagine we get this. I was at
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: that super Bowl, by the way, the Marshawn Lynch super Bowl.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: That was a crazy game, and uh, we could get
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: something like that again with Sons Marshaw Lynch.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: He won't be there. Well, Junia is saying, gives show
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: some resp Yeah, I mean they keep winning. Yea.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: You can make the case for a lot of teams,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: like a lot of teams and a lot of teams
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: that aren't even currently in the playoffs. You can make
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: the case for like, you know, if you think the
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Chiefs get in right now the Lions are named like,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: you can make the case for a lot of and if.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: The Cowboys get in. Yeah, yeah, you didn't make the
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: case for anyone. It's wide open. More fun any other season.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: This is the fun of it too, right, they don't
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: even end up getting in. But he's the best money
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I ever lost. You just like the number so much,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: you're like, just give me the number on a team.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: He said he got a Bengals at one hundred to one.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: They almost snuck in the playoffs. There's I think even this.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Someone brought up the point about tonight, like this game
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: feels like either team, but the Cowboys are fifty to one,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: the Lions are twenty to one or something, So it's like,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: and again, I think that's a.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Big game for both teams, like really big game for
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: both teams. So yeah, it should be a good one.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked earlier on this too, the playoff best ball, insane,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: most wide open. Who do even go after? I hope
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: you like the playoff basketball streets quite a bit. I
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: know titles in the streets as well, but this is
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: your favorite, right, Yeah.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: A lot of fun.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll fire up some shows here going in.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Probably one of the biggest edges right now, just predicting
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: when you're drafting. Now, it's a big edge, but predicting
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: who has the bye week is important, and then obviously
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: you need to get the playoff teams, right, but you
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: can backdoor into the nut not team probably to be honest,
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: the winner is gonna come in the next probably two weeks.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Draft has a massive advantage, Like you can go in
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: there because I've done someone drafting you going there right now.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: And if you think the Lions are getting in the playoffs,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: like I did a draft the other day, it might
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: have been yesterday, Lions went fully undrafted, like in the
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: last round, I could have picked up Gibbs a Monross.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: So if you think the Lion's.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Gone to run and make the playoffs, and you can
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: have you can have the fucking nuts like you talked
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: about just by you know, being speculative about the playoff
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: teams and who gets the buy and whatnot.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna go to the FanDuel segment and
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: then we'll have the ship of games winners announced before
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: we get out of here. Whop Any discrepancies you're seeing
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: as far as the pricing goes, at least on the
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: the FanDuel side of things, Yeah, bye bye, Jack, Ben.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Yeh Jack, I hate that of just talking shit.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I thought he was making like a funny joke and
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: then just comes in here like a little loser that
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: he is.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: And I like joking around. It's fun, but then it's
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: like and talking not giving any information. We pride ourselves
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: on giving as much information as possible to try and
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: help people.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: From here and talk all the shit you want, for sure,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: but like you know, there's no be friendly about it
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: because what we can take it, we've got thick skin.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Not too many different differences. Big gap between Pickens and Lamb.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Lamb is eleven eight, Pickens is ten to six. Definitely
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: stands out a little bit. You know, David Montgomery's probably
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: better suited or definitely better suited for fan duel, scoring
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: seventy eight hundred. Kind of like him a little bit
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: more over here than on DK. I mean, I think
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: we liked him on DK as well. But ferguson eighty
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: four hundred, that's a that's a pretty big point price tag.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: That's a that's a really big price tag.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Tom Kennedy's three k dwell, he's thirty eight hundred, I'd
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: say pretty similar.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: I'm not seeing many differences between the two.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Goff and Montgomery again, Montgomery especially, like
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: you said, that's a really good spotches Again, it's all
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: how the game goes. It's like to me that it's
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: the setup though, and I think they'd want to keep
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: it that way, so I have interest in that for sure.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: I think Montgomery got a little bit more interesting as
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: the show went on. The props don't show it, but
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: that's again it's we'll see if you end up getting
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: that one right. That could pay off handsomely tonight title.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Any differences you see that stand out or anything extra
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: to add on there.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: I agree with hoops point on the CD, like his price,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: with Pickens being twelve hundred least, Jameson Williams being two
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: k less and him and like Dak only four hundred
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: more with the half point PPR, I do think CD,
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: and he's going to be own. It's CD, but like
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: squeeze to it a little bit. He's going to be
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: lower on on fandle than DraftKings. Montgomery looks like a
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: better play on Fandal doing a fit in the scoring better.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Ferguson looks really overpriced. So I mean, if Ferguson has
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: twenty two DraftKings points or he goes eight for eighty
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: in a touchdown today, you could see very low dupes
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: up top on both sides Tom Kennedy is still the
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: clear value at three k rust Welly's more expensive like
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: he is there, but there's just everyone's gonna play Tom Kennedy.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: They're gonna mix and match the studs up top and yeah,
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: you got to try and find something your builds, whether
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: it's leaving money finding a ten percent or less owned guy,
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: like just don't go and plug in Jamison Gibbs seed
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: or pickings up top and then play Tom Kennedy and
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: then leave all your money. Like that's that's a really
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: easy build.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly it. And I think that's gonna be
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the breakdown over there is like how people just try
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: and go the exact same way. Gibbs will be super
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: high owned, Like there's a Gibbs is getting even like
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: he's getting the combined ownership almost of what him and
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Jamison Williams are getting on Draftings over on FanDuel in
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: the MVP.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: So there's a mama buddy, we're talking about a football show.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Like this term has been around forever, like the boxes,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: the end zone and fall in it.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: This is the same imagine going on YouTube.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: It's the same guy that you think I would bet
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: you go make an account that says at Joe Mama
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: sixty nine, like, imagine being that guy that's so you
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: have the worst life.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's just it's everything fall.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: In the box. If you ever watch NFL, like have
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: you've never heard of the name fall in the box?
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Like Dard saying, man, I forgot about this. The community
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: definitely on a bit of a heater. You can't spell
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: heater without hater.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: It happens.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: We're getting that to.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Tell you, and I'll tell you one box that Joe
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Mama sixty nine has never fallen in.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: And it's pretty obvious.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Geez.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: That's the problem with these losers that come on here.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: They get none of that sort of box, and then
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: they want to come in here and talk shit. And
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I mean I've met a lot of people in the
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: space that can fall into that category, and this Joe
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Mama loser is definitely one.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all good. This makes it fun for us.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I got nothing else to add when it
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: comes to the fan duel stuff. I would some more
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: comments came up with the Super Bowl that I thought
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: were interesting. Is again it's it's so wide open, but
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: like the Bills ten to one, I know, it's been
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: bad at times, but it's like, imagine that that's the
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: AFC factor. By the way, if like the Eagle, if sorry,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: if the Chiefs, the Ravens, those types of teams aren't
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: showing up, then the Bills their possibility right, definitely can
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: do that. But go ahead, what did you see there?
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Whop?
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: You're laughing?
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Just probably not a a family friendly comment, but it was.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: It was good.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: They're good. I was gonna ask you. The Packers is
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: another one.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: They stink. They stink. When Ned says that you.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Really know Packers are going to make a run, man, yeah,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I'm flipping man after.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: I guess maybe a little bias because they just beat
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: the ship out of the Lions, but yeah, what does
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: that mean? You hate your Lions?
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: And they just got to be more draft. I think
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: that they're they're a team that they need to stop
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: relying on Jacob so much. Like they got it. They
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: have to open up the playbook a little bit. They
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: got like Christian Watson can make some plays and like
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: if they get Jayden reaidback, it's another guy.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Like Highs and Lows are really wide, and I don't
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: think Lafleur is very good either. But no, it's wide open.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Nobody likes their team like Lions, like title doesn't matter, Packers,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: any team. Like it's like I'm against all the chat
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: new Ones nade that everyone's just so mad with their
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: own team right now and right until they until they're
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: good again. And even like I've heard, like I know
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: enough people that live in Chicago that are Bears fans
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: that are like, it's actually painful now. It's like it's
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: better when they're losing because now it's like all this hype.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: But also it's it's always tough no matter what win
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: or lose. It's always a struggle. But that's why we
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: love the NFL. And let's get to the shipp of
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  Speaker 1: games winners like whop what is it now? Eleven and two?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: What are we weak? Fourteen? Eleven and two?
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  Speaker 4: So we need we need someone to step up and
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  Speaker 1: So we were We've run thirteen weeks of these head
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• 1:00:43
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  Speaker 3: So let's see it back to week one you know
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  Speaker 3: you got your banner.
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  Speaker 1: Can it's just this one.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even got to say it. Just read the banner.
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  Speaker 4: That's what it is. It's been a run, so it's
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: where it all went wrong for the crew.
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  Speaker 1: Thirteen weeks in eleven and two. The winner of Golden
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  Speaker 1: But the winner is Keith egg Yed. Keith egg Yed,
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  Speaker 1: and announce it if you're in the discord, but I
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  Speaker 1: do recognize the name, so congrats to Keith. Keith is
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  Speaker 1: the winner. Number forty two is still eight Golden Ship,
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  Speaker 1: i'll take this down down in spare nades, but the
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  Speaker 1: Golden Ship it number forty three. Winner the share ship
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  Speaker 1: this week is the three thirty three Wildcat where we'll
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  Speaker 1: as well too, Ryan Fedor Ryan Fedder, Ryan Fedor I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, but congrats to Ryan f who got the
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  Speaker 1: are into round one of the finals. Those are the
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  Speaker 1: we'll hit you up and let you know, go ahead, hoop,
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  Speaker 1: what do you see?
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  Speaker 4: Ah?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, Keith is gonna get goose agged
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: oh in the win column this week I.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Was waiting for the one line, and you came through
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: with it. I like that, all right.
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  Speaker 3: He was thinking of that one long and already could tell.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: I, don't forget it, hey, you can still win down
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  Speaker 1: the stretch. New ones you can still get in. Plus
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  Speaker 1: we bought. The winners were announced on Tuesday as usual,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: and emailed for the golden shipper for the third golden
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  Speaker 1: ticket for this week. So we're getting to the end.
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  Speaker 3: But there'll be.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Forty four what is it, forty five, forty six, forty
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  Speaker 1: seven day for nine fifty, So the six more after
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  Speaker 1: this three, next week three, the week after and then
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  Speaker 1: week seventeen will be the round one of the first
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  Speaker 1: ever ship It Games Finals, and it will be fifty
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  Speaker 1: of the winners that will play down to the top ten.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: We will skip over the very annoying at times Week eighteen,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: they'll be following along with that one. We'll still be
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: playing it because there's money to be one, but we
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: will hold the final. Round Round two of the ship
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  Speaker 1: It Games Finals will be Week one of the NFL playoffs,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: where we get all really good, meaningful games, a big
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: enough slate still to make it happen. And then that's
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: gonna be solid there, So all right, anything else? Title
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: from you? Final thoughts before we get.
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  Speaker 3: Out of here. No, We're We're in for a good
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: game tonight, so I'm excited. Yeah, good luck to everybody
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: out there. Enjoy a great game and good luck in
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: your best ball contest. I just saw another reminder there,
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  Speaker 3: so twenty ninety two. That's pretty good. I'll have to
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  Speaker 1: What do you got?
• 1:04:19
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  Speaker 3: Men? Final thoughts eighteen eighty five and the one I'm
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: in first at five point fifty five, So yeah, I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: mean it's you're dusting over there. But I drafted a
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: lot earlier. I don't know if that matters or not.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: But way better team than they score.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, finished finished strong. Yeah, good game, I mean, should
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: be a good game tonight. High total close, Brad, Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, the heater is good. We love to see it.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: The community is crushing this, I'm assuming is for tonight.
• 1:05:11
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• 1:05:14
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• 1:05:26
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• 1:05:28
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