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RHOBH: Garcelle and the Gaslighters featuring Jessie Woo · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King.
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  Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
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  Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
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  Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. So today's
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  Speaker 2: topic is exploring conversations that I've been seeing on social
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  Speaker 2: media as relates to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,
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  Speaker 2: between Erica Jane telling Garsell's son to get the fuck
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  Speaker 2: out of here, to Lisa Renna's problematic tweets to the
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  Speaker 2: ultimate gas lighting that I've been seeing. On this episode,
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to dedicate this episode to a larger conversation
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  Speaker 2: about the state of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
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  Speaker 2: and Garcel being a part of this franchise. So I
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  Speaker 2: knew I could not do this alone, so I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to bring on someone who has an experience being a
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  Speaker 2: reality star. But she's also a Haitian American, like Garcel,
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  Speaker 2: a black woman. She has a very interesting take about
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  Speaker 2: what she's been seeing in these past couple of episodes
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  Speaker 2: as it relates to Garcel and the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast. Her name is Jesse
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  Speaker 2: Woo and she is super hilarious. She's super honest and
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  Speaker 2: super insightful. This is probably the most end up conversation
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  Speaker 2: that I've had on the podcast since Ebidy k Williams,
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  Speaker 2: where we do talk about very sensitive subjects. But my
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  Speaker 2: hope is that when you listen to this, you can
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  Speaker 2: walk away with the greater understanding of the reason why this.
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  Speaker 1: Was important to me and hopefully to you.
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  Speaker 2: We know that Garsell was cast on the show because
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  Speaker 2: obviously she represents being a black woman in Hollywood. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: being a black woman in the zip code of nine
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  Speaker 2: to two one zero. And when Garsel came on the show,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, we were fans of her. She was
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  Speaker 2: fancy on the Jimmy Fox Show. Garsel is an icon
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  Speaker 2: in the black community, so we were all very happy
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  Speaker 2: and thrilled when she was cast on the show.
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  Speaker 1: And she literally fit in like a glove. Like it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like Ebany k Williams.
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  Speaker 2: Who I felt was an odd ball because those weren't
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  Speaker 2: her real friends, but Garcel.
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  Speaker 1: Just felt in seamlessly.
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  Speaker 2: What are you thinking right now of Garzil's presidence on
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  Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Belly Hills, Like.
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  Speaker 3: You said, she's an icon in the black community, but
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  Speaker 3: as a Haitian like she is like our your dead,
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  Speaker 3: which means our star like she was. She's one of
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  Speaker 3: the first to ever do what she did as a
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  Speaker 3: Haitian coming to America with nothing and being able to
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  Speaker 3: translate it into stardom like that's not something that a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Of us Haitian see.
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  Speaker 3: Now in my generation, we're seeing more of it, and
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  Speaker 3: so seeing her in Beverly Hills especially was a big
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  Speaker 3: deal because we know that it is a predominantly white franchise.
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  Speaker 4: I think she's a class act now.
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  Speaker 3: I do think this particular season, Garsela is working the girls,
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  Speaker 3: Garsel is working my sys don't really have a storyline
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  Speaker 3: like that. Her storyline is, let me go ahead and
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  Speaker 3: let me get these things. Let me make y'all work
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  Speaker 3: for y'all coin this season, because y'all ain't been working.
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  Speaker 4: Let me make y'all work for y'all coin this season.
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  Speaker 3: Let me drop a little salt, let me drop a
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  Speaker 3: little peakles here and there, and let me spice things up,
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  Speaker 3: let me.
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  Speaker 4: Confront certain things.
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  Speaker 3: And she has such a classy way of doing it
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  Speaker 3: where you can't check her.
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  Speaker 4: You're not gonna check her you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: because she's being very honest.
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  Speaker 3: She's respectful about it. So you have to address what
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  Speaker 3: she says, which is great.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's it's great. I agree with you. I've said
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  Speaker 2: for the longest time. Kyle Richards is the uncredited executive
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  Speaker 2: producer of Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 1: Kyle puts the girls to work. He sits back, she
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  Speaker 1: watches them fight.
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  Speaker 2: She'll give you a leg split, she'll give you a
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  Speaker 2: good reaction shot, and she'll give you very much tears up.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, like, do you what do you mean
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  Speaker 1: that happened? Right?
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  Speaker 2: What's been interesting is Garcel Bubet this season I like
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  Speaker 2: to call the co executive producer.
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  Speaker 1: She is definitely.
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  Speaker 2: Moving story forward, pushing story, making sure that the girls
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  Speaker 2: are held accountable. She's defending something who A lot of
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  Speaker 2: people think Sutton is a Karen. I don't think Sutton
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  Speaker 2: is a Karen. I think someton is Catherine. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: a Catherine is a white woman.
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  Speaker 1: Who comes from privilege.
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  Speaker 2: She behaves in a way where everything's very sensitive to her.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she's a Karen though, So instead of
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  Speaker 2: a Karen, I'll call her Catherine.
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  Speaker 3: I can kind of see what you're saying with Sutton.
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  Speaker 3: I think what I don't like about Sutton is, like
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  Speaker 3: you said, she comes from a background of privilege, and
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  Speaker 3: her strategy is, but I can relate to everything. I
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  Speaker 3: can relate to everything. If you say something to her,
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  Speaker 3: she's like, oh, but I too have experienced. Oh but
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  Speaker 3: I too have seen, but I too, Like she's very
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  Speaker 3: much I too, and it's like, bitch, you have not
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  Speaker 3: experienced what the fuck.
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about? Like, get the entire hell out of here.
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  Speaker 3: But she has a way of saying it too that
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  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, you know what, Okay, fine girl, Like
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  Speaker 3: I can't fight this lady, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: So now that's why to me, she's a great supervising producer.
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  Speaker 1: So going back to.
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  Speaker 2: Garcelle, because you was about to say something along the
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  Speaker 2: lines of there's things that's happening with garcel this season
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  Speaker 2: that you're not liking, So what are those things?
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  Speaker 5: I just I really want to see garcel have a
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  Speaker 5: little more smoke because I feel that her time on
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  Speaker 5: the show, she again she keeps it very classy, and
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  Speaker 5: I think that she does that because she does not
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  Speaker 5: want the narrative of a mad angry black woman to
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  Speaker 5: fall over her. But these white women have been tugging
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  Speaker 5: at your slip for a minute now, especially Lisa Rena,
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  Speaker 5: whose lips have been imported from the Motherland.
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  Speaker 4: You got no rito over there too.
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  Speaker 3: And then now you have Kyle like gaslighting you like
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  Speaker 3: a motherfucker, like continuously.
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  Speaker 4: I just feel like I want to see her have.
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  Speaker 3: A little more smoked, just a little more smoke, because
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  Speaker 3: if the shoe was on the other foot for these ladies,
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  Speaker 3: these ladies.
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  Speaker 4: Know how to get they white women cry on. They
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  Speaker 4: know how to No, that's not what I meant and no,
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  Speaker 4: oh my god, like they know.
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  Speaker 3: So you you gotta find a way to get your
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  Speaker 3: black women's tears flowing too.
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  Speaker 1: With us.
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  Speaker 3: The thing with us is we don't really cry unless
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  Speaker 3: we want to beat somebody's ass. So we have to
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  Speaker 3: find a way to tap into that, Like, what.
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  Speaker 4: Is that thing?
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  Speaker 3: Where is that space where black women can have their
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  Speaker 3: black women's tears.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what that would look like for her.
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  Speaker 3: Because there's been times when she's really been backed up
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  Speaker 3: and they've been able to really like make her seem
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  Speaker 3: like something is wrong with her, and there's nothing wrong
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  Speaker 3: with Garcella.
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  Speaker 2: Now I have to agree with you on that because
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  Speaker 2: remember last season, Yeah, Garcella had this very beautiful, vulnerable
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  Speaker 2: moment when Garcel explained to her coworkers, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: call these women her friends. I don't think in real
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  Speaker 2: life Garcila will ever hang with these women, So I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gonna say her friends. I'll say her coworkers what
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  Speaker 2: it was like as a black woman being the only
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  Speaker 2: black woman in this white space. And she did it
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  Speaker 2: in a way Jesse that I felt like she had
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  Speaker 2: the tears, but it wasn't tears looking for sympathy. It
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  Speaker 2: was tears struggling for them to understand what it's like
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  Speaker 2: to be her. And I thought that was such a
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  Speaker 2: powerful moment for her and for me.
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  Speaker 1: I know what that feels like.
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  Speaker 2: I'm was the first black male executive producer of the
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  Speaker 2: Real Housewives, and when you are a black person in
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  Speaker 2: a field of excellence, you are oftentimes the only in
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  Speaker 2: the room. And I felt in that moment Garcel spoke
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  Speaker 2: for her, but she also spoke for the likes of me,
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  Speaker 2: and I think I can say she spoke for the
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  Speaker 2: likes of you too. So going back to what you
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  Speaker 2: were saying about her comfortability of owning herself in this space.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think are the struggles Garcel was going
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  Speaker 2: through Because, like you touched on before, she did say
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  Speaker 2: that she did not want to be the angry black
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  Speaker 2: woman like she was. She was definitely not trying to
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  Speaker 2: be that. Because for my listeners, a'ma Rossa Manigault was
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  Speaker 2: considered that for the longest time, Needy Lee Tiffany Pollard
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  Speaker 2: was considered that for the longest time.
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  Speaker 3: Like we've seen white women or white men come forward
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  Speaker 3: and say certain things about where they work, what has happened,
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  Speaker 3: and they don't get that same BackFlash even from their
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  Speaker 3: own community. But here's the thing, right, is that I'm
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  Speaker 3: at a point personally in my life where I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to be fighting for white people.
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  Speaker 4: To understand.
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  Speaker 3: What you will do is you will respect me though
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  Speaker 3: you won't respect me. And when I come in as bitch,
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  Speaker 3: there are certain things you will not say. There are
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  Speaker 3: certain tones you will not use, there are certain jokes.
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  Speaker 4: You will not express.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and if you do those things,
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  Speaker 3: cameras are not your teeth are liable to be on
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  Speaker 3: the flow. I don't care like That's where I'm at
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  Speaker 3: with it, because the thing is respectability politics is not working,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that Garcel is trying to in her
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  Speaker 3: own way play the respectability card kind of like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: as a black woman, this is what it is for
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  Speaker 3: me as a black woman when you.
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  Speaker 4: Say this, this is how it registers for me.
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  Speaker 3: Right, how many times are we gonna tell these women
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  Speaker 3: that these women do not care.
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  Speaker 4: They do not care. They don't want to hear that.
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  Speaker 3: They're so used to existing in their world and not
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  Speaker 3: having to think about how they have to exist. They're
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  Speaker 3: so they're so used to living in their world and
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  Speaker 3: just being there, and what they say goes, now here
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  Speaker 3: come your black ass.
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  Speaker 1: Who barely You're barely.
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  Speaker 3: In the area code. You're barely here, and now you
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  Speaker 3: want to come tell me how.
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  Speaker 4: To exist up in my sheep.
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  Speaker 3: So that's why, like for me personally, when I sometimes
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  Speaker 3: when I watch Garselves do this, it's like I understand,
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  Speaker 3: I understand, but Sis, that is a fight I can
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  Speaker 3: no longer fight. And especially as a Haitian American, we've
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  Speaker 3: seen Garselves open up her door and give these white
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  Speaker 3: people bunnon d d fuss what let get and zo
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  Speaker 3: mo and grab mass and then you're gonna turn around
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  Speaker 3: and you're gonna tell my son to get the fuck
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  Speaker 3: out of here, and.
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  Speaker 4: That just be the end of that. Oh no, oh no,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna it's gonna be eighteen oh four Part two
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  Speaker 4: up in this bitch, That's what's gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no.
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  Speaker 2: But this is the reason why it was important for
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  Speaker 2: me to talk about this conversation because to me, it's
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  Speaker 2: easy to tap into what the scenes are, right, but
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  Speaker 2: to me, I wanted to really talk about what's happening
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  Speaker 2: on that show as it relates to garcell So you
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  Speaker 2: brought up Erica Jane in.
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  Speaker 1: One of the most recent episodes.
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  Speaker 2: Ye telling Garcelles fourteen year old son to get the
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  Speaker 2: fuck out of here. I mean, listen, a it was
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  Speaker 2: a level of disrespect, right, I mean, I think we
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  Speaker 2: all can agree to that. We did see Garcel go
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  Speaker 2: back and tell Eric she was wrong. Look, I think
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  Speaker 2: if that was Charay, it would have been handled differently.
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  Speaker 2: But again, Garcel doesn't represent all black people, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that needs to be a big conversation of we
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  Speaker 2: don't represent the culture of the community.
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  Speaker 1: We do represent ourselves, but.
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  Speaker 2: As a viewer, because we were raised by black women.
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  Speaker 2: We know that oftentimes black mothers will go in if
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  Speaker 2: someone ever spoke to their child that way, And a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people felt that Garcel let Erica off easily.
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  Speaker 3: Garcel, even though Garcella has held her feet to the fire,
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  Speaker 3: Garcella has still shown her a lot of compassion. She
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  Speaker 3: really has shown her a level of compassion. And so,
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  Speaker 3: drunk or not, drunk or not, those words should have
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  Speaker 3: never came out of Erica's mouth for anybody's child. But
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  Speaker 3: I cannot sit here and act like I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 3: sit here and give her the benefit of the doubt.
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  Speaker 4: That shit was racist as hell. It was racist.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, there was a comment that several of
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  Speaker 3: them kept saying about Garcill's son. Oh, they're so well behaved,
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  Speaker 3: They're so respectful, they're so well behaved.
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  Speaker 4: Mitch, what are we talking about here, adug.
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  Speaker 2: Erica said to Garcil before I yelled at her son.
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  Speaker 2: I complimented them and was saying, how well spoken they are.
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  Speaker 4: Why is that what you're pointing out.
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  Speaker 3: I've never heard any of them say that about anybody
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  Speaker 3: else's white child on that show. They're so well spoken.
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  Speaker 3: I've never heard that they're so well behaved. Never heard that,
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  Speaker 3: Never heard that, So why are you saying that about
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  Speaker 3: a black child? Number two, let's go back to the
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  Speaker 3: whole you know, to get the f out of here.
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  Speaker 4: I have never seen any of them.
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  Speaker 3: Remotely speak that way to any of their children on
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  Speaker 3: that franchise. Ever, there have been times when someone has
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  Speaker 3: made a comment about, like, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Eating disorders with something like that. I think, like with
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  Speaker 4: Renna's child, a daughter or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but that was like there was a conversation about that,
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  Speaker 3: so that was brought up.
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  Speaker 4: But this little boy is literally coming to get flowers.
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  Speaker 4: It made absolutely no sense.
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  Speaker 3: And then you see Dorito, even Dorito, even her try.
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  Speaker 4: She's trying to tell Erica, girl, what's going on? Girl,
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  Speaker 4: that's HER's sun. The baby came to get his flowers
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  Speaker 4: for his mama. He needs to get the fuck out,
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  Speaker 4: like no, no, no, no, no no no no no no no.
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  Speaker 4: That was racist. Fast forward. Then you had that scene
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  Speaker 4: with Kyle and.
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  Speaker 3: And Dorito and their husbands where they're talking about it
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  Speaker 3: and Kyle said, so did you hear about Erica saying
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  Speaker 3: to Garsolthtan to get the fuck out of here?
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  Speaker 4: And she left like she thought it was funny.
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  Speaker 3: She went on to say, you know, it's nice to
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  Speaker 3: see and I'm paraphrasing too, it's nice to see Erica
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  Speaker 3: letting her hair down. This is your definition of letting
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  Speaker 3: your hair somebody letting their hair down.
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  Speaker 4: And then you see the men join in and say, yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 4: I mean she's old. She's old.
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  Speaker 3: A moment like that, you know she's been going through
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  Speaker 3: a lot. What exactly is she going through? And why
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  Speaker 3: are you guys okaying that?
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  Speaker 4: When I saw that moment, it made me.
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  Speaker 3: Go back to the whole Crystal thing where Crystal said that,
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  Speaker 3: Suton said more in that conversation, and it was so
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  Speaker 3: easy for everybody to be like, no, she's lying, and
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  Speaker 3: Kyle's like, no, she didn't say anything else.
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  Speaker 4: Well else did she say? Now I'm looking.
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  Speaker 3: At you, Kyle like nah, I think someton might have
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  Speaker 3: said something else, because you don't register. Because the compass
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  Speaker 3: that you use for things that are offensive, I can't
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  Speaker 3: trust it.
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  Speaker 2: So what you're saying is because Kyle swept Erica's disrespect
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  Speaker 2: under the rug. As related to you talking about someone's
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  Speaker 2: son and Erica letting her hair down, Listen what I
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  Speaker 2: can say to you guys, is that's not the first
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  Speaker 2: time they've seen Erica behave that way allegedly. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: friends with people in this business. What I can say
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  Speaker 2: to you, guys, here's an exclusive. I've been told allegedly
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  Speaker 2: that Erica Jane acts like that all the time, not
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  Speaker 2: maybe to someone's son, but to the producers. I've heard
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  Speaker 2: that Erica Jane is not the nicest when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to her treatment of the crew. And what's interesting is,
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  Speaker 2: going back to what you were saying, Jesse about Kyle's behavior.
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  Speaker 2: I was so disturbed by Kyle's behavior in these past
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  Speaker 2: two episodes. Why are you over compensating so much for
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  Speaker 2: something that is truly awful, Like if someone spoke that
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  Speaker 2: way to your daughter Portie or you saw how Denise
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  Speaker 2: Richards freaked out because y'all were talking about sex around
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  Speaker 2: her children. For Kyle to low key defend the behavior
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  Speaker 2: and what you said is so interesting. She also kept
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  Speaker 2: trying to defend Chrystal. Kyle deafinly was trying to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that it wasn't a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Let's move on.
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  Speaker 2: So it does question whether or not Kyle was hiding
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  Speaker 2: something Kyle.
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  Speaker 3: Does not want to understand. Kyle's another one who does
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  Speaker 3: not want to understand. She doesn't want to hear what
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  Speaker 3: Garcel or Crystal have to say. Like even when the
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  Speaker 3: back and forth with her in Crystal or Cristal was
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  Speaker 3: like telling her, you don't give me a space yet,
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  Speaker 3: it's not a safe place.
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  Speaker 4: It is not a safe place for Crystal.
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  Speaker 3: Crystal isn't totally innocent, but it's not a safe place
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  Speaker 3: for Crystal.
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  Speaker 4: Crystal has used the right verbiage.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Crystal too has a way of being condescending. She
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  Speaker 3: can be quite condescending. And you know that's a conversation
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  Speaker 3: to have. But Crystal don't be exactly wrong when she says, nah,
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  Speaker 3: that's a violation, Like it is a violation if I
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  Speaker 3: don't if I'm not rocking with you like that, you
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  Speaker 3: can't just open up my room door and come in
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: my room. And when she was saying that, and everybody
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: was kind of telling her, no, that's not that that
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: was it was crazy to me as if you were
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: watching it. And even though I'm not a producer, but
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I've been on reality television and I can understand things
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: a little different than what the viewer sees. I'm like, nah,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: there's clearly like a pact here with some of these women.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: It's like, these are the untouchables right here, these right here,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: we're the untouchables right here. And so if you try
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: to break through that, you're on your own. You're on
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: your own, like there's literally a path there. And so
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: that's why you see Garcell and Sutton. And I really
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: wish Crystal would have done a better job of allyship
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: with Garsell and Sutton.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: She really missed the ball with that.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I could not agree with you, Mark.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: When I look at the cast of the Real Housewives
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: of belly Hills, Kyle runs the show, and everybody wants
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: to be a part of Kyle's team, which is to
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: reach Lisa, Rena, and Erica. I think those women that
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I just named are the type of friends that Crystal
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: hangs with. I think she definitely considers them the cool kids. Yes,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: and Crystal, to me, who's a social butterfly. She wants
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: to add Kyle, Lisa, Rena, Derry and Erica to her roster,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: and I think when it comes to Garsela and Sutton,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: in her mind, she doesn't see them as a top
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: tier group to want to be with. I think that's
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: why she refuses to really go after them when they
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: play with her in her face. Now, I think Garcel
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: suffers from that too. I think Garcel wants so much
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to be liked by those women. And in my opinion,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: when Garcel told Lisa Renna at last season's reunion that
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: she was told through a mutual friend that Lisa Renna said,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Garcel being on the show forces us to talk about race,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: and this is not our show.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: We do not talk about race.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: And Lisa Sara, who is a self opera digest actress.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Gave the performance of her career.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: When Lisa Renna carried herself over to the other couch,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: it was to shut Garcel up before she could say
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: anything further because she knew this coureuin my career right
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: and I could be canceled. So when Lisa Rena showed
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: her slip when she tweeted, just because Garcella is on
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: this show doesn't mean everything is racist. I put two
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: and two together because I know math it equals four,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: and that four was for Garsel and the audience to know,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: we do not want to talk about race on this show,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: and we are afraid of having any disagreement with Garsel
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and I think they don't want Garcel on the show,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: and they are not happy that Scharie Garcel's friend is
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: on the show because in their minds, they're thinking, what
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: in the real Housepwalks of Atlanta is going on with
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: our show.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: They think that it's about to be the Niemi Gang,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: like they think.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: It's about to be.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Close your neck to marry me, Like they really think
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: that that's what it's about to be. And like you
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: said earlier, right, black women are not a monolith. So
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: every black person or every black woman is not going
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: to react the same way to.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Certain situations as another one would.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: And especially as you can see with the Shari and
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: you know Garcel, these are nine two one oh black women.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: There's a presence, a certain style, a certain behavioral pattern
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: that they have. Right now, I will say this is
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: that Garcel's here to get her corn. Garcela is here
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: to you know, elevate her career. Garcella is here to
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: translate this into what else, whatever it's gonna be. So
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: if it's gonna be a book, if it's gonna be
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: a podcast, if it's gonna be a TV show, if
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: it's gonna.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Be lighttime movies.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Whatever it's gonna be, Garcia tell us here to translate
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: it to that. Okay, However, she knows that she has
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: to somewhat play the game. You have to somewhat play
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: the game because like, this is an ensemble show. It
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: is that's how it is on reality television. It is
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: an ensemble show. So you have to play the game.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: So I don't think that she necessarily wants to be
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: liked by these girls. I think that she's playing the
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: bad I don't think that any of these girls, including Suddon.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I don't care how many times Garsels says me and
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: stting a cool girl, give give me a break.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I could not agree with you more. Sutton does not
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: want to be friends with Garsels at all. She's like Crystal.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: She really wants to be a monster the cool girls.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: She really does not.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: When I really saw it, when her and Diana was
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: going back and forth, that was.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: So cringe to watch because that was not Sutton at all.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: You could tell something what the YouTuber said, all right,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: let me Meei leaks reads part one.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Ni, Okay, what did he say? Let me tell you
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: what Suton want.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Some went to the episode where Nini and Claudia and
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Jordan was going back at.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: She's like, let me, okay, what is it. Okay, they
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: got him when you get the coin. They got him
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: when you got the coin? Okay?
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Are you?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Are you suggesting Jesse that when Sutton.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: And Diana had their one on.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: One moment at Garcell's birthday party, that something went on
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: YouTube and type in the search engine Niini leaks reads
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and she studied specifically the Putter read Code episode, and
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: she applied that to her conversation with Diana, because, to.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Your point, they both were perotious for no reason.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: It was like somebody was in there like pulling streams.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: All of a sudden.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: It was like Niini and Claudia like just and then
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: it was ridiculous to me to watch. But I did
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: feel like that was more in character for Diana, though.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I did feel that for Diana. I think that Diana
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: the moment she sat down to do this show, she
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: was like, who the fuck are these bitches?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: These?
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Like, every last one of y'all are beneath me.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Diana was like, first of all, none of y'all got
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: my point?
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: What are we talking about here?
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: I'm forty nine. I just had a baby.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: None of y'all hoss is having babies at forty nine,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: y'all hoss can't do this. I own three countries, not
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: own I own three countries. Like what do y'all miss
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: his own mansions? I own three countries, okay, Like my
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: baby daddy is fifteen. None of y'all y'all ain't got
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: fifteen year old baby daddy's. Diana is like she's diabolic
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: for like I can't sinna as listen, I cannot Diana please,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Like it's like and you know what's crazy. The first
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: episode that she was there, I was like, okay, guess
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: make me feel poor, queen, Yes, I do like to
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: watch certain franchises for the coin, like, yes, make me
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: feel like I'm not doing shit with my life. But
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Diana makes you feel like you worthless. Like I'm like, okay,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: it's not this, ain't it Like not this ain't it
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: right here? I wanted to feel poor, not worthless, not
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: like my mama's swallowed me. But while when all Diana
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: though that comment that Diana made when Garcell said she's uneducated,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: and Diana came back and was like, well, why don't
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: you tell them how much money I've sent a Haiti.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something again, Garcel is better than me.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: That comment right there, and I don't really have to
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I don't really have to dissect why that comment was trapped.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: If that is the first thing you reached for to say, well,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: tell them, We'll tell them why I sent money. Tell
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: them about how I sent money to the porest country
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: in the hemisphere.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: I go through this a lot.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: If I point not something that is wrong with our
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: government or with our country, I get go back to
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: your country very often. Well, bitch, I wouldn't be living here.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I would love to be in my country. But because
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: of capitalism, because of slavery, because of imperialism, because.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Of white supremacy. You know why this country is where
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: it's at.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: And even someone like Diana who talks about coming from poverty,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: when that's the first thing you reach for to point
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: out somebody's poverty.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: You haven't learned. You didn't have to because you're still white.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: You are still white.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I don't care what I don't care what country you
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: came from. I don't care what language you speak. You
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: are still a white woman with blonde hair, and when
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: you walk around.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: People are not gonna see that you came from whatever.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Let's unpack this.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: You're even educating me, which is again the beauty of
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: this conversation.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I never looked at it that way.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: So you're saying that Diana, who is from a poor country,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: who was proud to let the world know that, she
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: rolls above it and became this multi millionaire. So if
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: you are somebody who was born in a poor country,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: how dare you throw that back up in another woman's
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: face as a clap.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Back because you called you uneducated?
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: And the reason why you're comfortable with doing that is because,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: like I said, you are white.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: And let's be very motherfucking clear.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: The way Diana got her riches, it's not the same
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: way that Garcel got hers.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Gausie, Diana, you married into yours.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Garcel did not drop the mic.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: That's very interesting, and to sort of go back into
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: these sort of different treatments and the way the children
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: are treated. Erica made a big deal about Garceil's book,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: so much so she did a video of throwing in
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the trash can, right yeah, And she said in a
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: response to a fan on Twitter that Garcel said something
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: about Lisa Renna's adult child, her daughter and how that
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: was out of line, and everyone sort of rallied around her.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: And said like, yeah, that's true. Right.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: So what's interesting is if you women felt that Garcela
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: mentioning Lisa renna U's adult daughter having eating disorder, Garcel
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: suggested that maybe it's because she's watching her mother who's thin,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: and maybe that did something to her desire to not
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: want to eat. Right, Yeah, Erica felt that was out
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: of line. It's funny to you guys when Erica, that
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: same woman who was on this pedestal said get the
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: fuck out of here to someone's non adult child who's fourteen,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and it's funny and it's comical. So we are seeing
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: some different treatment in what they're doing. And that's the
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: reason why it is my belief that I just don't
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: think these women want Garcel around them.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think they like her. And I do think
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you're right in.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: The sense of as a community, we're proud to see Garcel,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: we root for her and to see her bring on Sharie.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I think this.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Franchise is going to have a makeover, and in my opinion,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I think Diana and dur are out and I think
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Sharia is stepping in to hold the diamond so that
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: they can really make sure that Garcel, who's a formidable
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: cast member, is not on an island.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Diana can go, Danga could go.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: It's just I was expecting more from her, like the fabulousness.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: I was looking for fun.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Rich shade, not like she is just unbelievably condescending, like
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: it's like, damn girl.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: But my thing with Garcel.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Again is I appreciat seeing Harna's platform.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: I love like that she's her.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: And what I love about this show too is they've
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: been able to capture that Garcel is somebody who's still working.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: She's going through to the real, even though the real
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: is canceled now, but she's not the real. She's writing books,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: she's doing lifetime movies, and even though this looks like
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: a resurgence, Garcel has constantly been working. She may not
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: be like Gabrielle Union or Biola Davis, but Garcel keeps
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: a job. So it's been good to see her do this.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: But I think it is time to move in some
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: more black women. I kind of feel like when I
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: think about Garcel, I kind of think about Ebony on
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Real Housewives of New York, and I really feel like
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: she was not given a fair shot. She wasn't given
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: the support, she wasn't given the space to be fun
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: and be funny because I see that personality in her,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: especially like on socials.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: I follow her on socials, love Ebony.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: She's so ridiculously smart, I mean, beautiful, gorgeous woman, great presence.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: But I feel like she wasn't given an ease, a
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: fair shot. So I do want to see them build
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: something around ourselves.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I do. I agree with you.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Do you think America is ready for a diverse real
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Housewives of Beverly Hills.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: No, but I don't care. No, but I don't care.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: We don't care what y'all what America want?
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: There are black people in Beverly Hills, There are Asian
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: people in Beverly Hills. There are Indian people in Beverly Hills,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Like they need to be represented too. And I'm sorry,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: but what exactly are these white women bringing? Like you
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: have Crystal over there, and even though Crystal she has
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of work to do, Crystal is married to
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: the dude who co created.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: The Lion King?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: What are what are the.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Other girls bringing? Like, come on and Kyle, I feel
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: like holl is someone who will never leave and don't.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: I don't feel she should.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I want to. I would love to see Kathy come back, though,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: but I mean it it is I don't care what
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: America wants.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: It's time, especially in.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: These socially revolutionary conscious times where we want to see
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: people represented.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: So one thing I bought my listeners to know about
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: you is you are also an actress and you are
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: starring my love in a script is show right that
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: is on the All Black Network. Correct, Yes, and it's
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: a show called a La Carte. You are playing Misha Taylor,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: who is in a lesbian relationship with a woman named Nicole,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: who is played by one of my loves and fan
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: favorite of the Real Houseporks of Atlanta, Candy Burrs.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Candy money Bag Birds.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, but the show is executive produced by Megan Good.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: It was created by a black woman.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Breanna Hogan, and the storyline follows four friends who are
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: living in Studio City, California, and they're just trying to
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: figure life out. My character is she's a teacher by day,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: very educated, but at night, you know, the freaks come
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: out at night, and that is where she kind of
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: lets her wig down and she's exploring herself sexually.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: What is it like playing opposite Candy?
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: You know, It's funny though, because I've known Candy for
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: a couple of years. Candy is the first person to
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: put me on tour. So back in twenty nineteen, I
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: had an EP called Moves of the Cancer. She put
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: me on her dungeon tour. I sang on it, which
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: was great.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: So we've been cool ever since.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: And so I didn't know she was gonna be my
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: love interest until I got there that day.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: And when it was her, like I could not stop laughing.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: I was so nervous. And this was my first acting job,
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: which is crazy.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Everybody keeps saying how great I did, but it was
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: my first acting job. And when we were supposed to
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: record we had a love scene. She had to calm
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: me down because I could not stop laughing. Like I
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: just was like, I don't know, like I can't even
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: fake it because it's like it was a nervous laughter.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I could not stop laughing. And then she was just nice.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: She just she's like, girl, come on now, we gotta
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: come on now, Like she pulled me to the side,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: She's like, come on now, we gotta get serious.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: We gotta do this.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: She's like, let me know what you're comfortable with. So
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: she's great. But most importantly, she's professional. She's professional. She
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: takes what she does so serious, like I don't know
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: how she does all these things at once and does
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: them all so well. But she's definitely someone who is
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: chasing excellence constantly, constantly, and she's so sweet. She's so
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: give me, like you can call her anytime, she'll talk,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: she'll hang out with you, like I don't know, I've
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: told her before, I'm like.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Are you Are you okay?
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Because I've met people who don't even have close to
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: what Candy has, but they don't have that the character
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: that she has, the generosity that she has. She's genuine,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: she's nice, she's kind. So I look forward to working
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: with her again. They have not renewed us just yet,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: but you know perfectly they will because there was a
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: pleasure working with her.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I love hearing that. Now.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Kennie's the best, She's the umast professional. So recently the
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: BT Awards were on and.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: You are guys. You have to follow Jesse Will on Twitter.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: You are truly one of the funniest people on Twitter.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Your tweets are funny. It's to the point where I
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: want to retweet Jesse tweets so bad, but because I
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: give my own shade and because I get dragged anyway,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Jesse, I can't also add your dragness on
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: my drag news. I just can't do it right. But
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: you Live tweeted during the BT Awards and Young Miami
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: aka Carisha Please she was holding a sign while p
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  Speaker 2: Diddy was giving his acceptance speech because he won like
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  Speaker 2: the icon of word or something, and Kresha I eat
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  Speaker 2: Young Miami was holding a sign saying go Poppy, and
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  Speaker 2: you tweeted something along the lives of did he thank
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  Speaker 2: every one in the world except the woman who's holding
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  Speaker 2: the side? And then Karsha and JT both retweeted you
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  Speaker 2: pretty much say bitch, they ain't what you want.
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  Speaker 3: It's hilarious because, I mean, the moment was so chaotic
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  Speaker 3: to me because that man really thank everybody in his life,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: including Cassie, and you think everybody but except for this
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: girl that's right in funny.
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  Speaker 4: Tom don't Poppy, don't pap and you don't think of
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  Speaker 4: that's not weird.
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  Speaker 3: So I thought that was weird, and I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't the only one who thought that everybody was
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  Speaker 3: tweeting that.
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  Speaker 4: Now, Carlos, I tweeted what I tweeted, I go home with.
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  Speaker 1: My fi'm on with my night, I go to bed.
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  Speaker 4: I wake up the next morning. My friend is like
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  Speaker 4: blowing up my phone. She's like, girl, did you see
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  Speaker 4: what's going up? Shade room? Everybody I'm posted my tweet.
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  Speaker 4: My tweet is everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: And then you have JT saying something paraphrasing when she
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: was like, you know, don't don't be acting like it's
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: not easy to identify you.
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  Speaker 4: I identify, verify you, touch you, and then have you identify.
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  Speaker 1: Something like that.
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  Speaker 4: So when I saw that, that was clearly a threat,
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  Speaker 4: and what I did.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Was I reached in my kneknee bag with all her reactions,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: and she had this episode of Housewives where remember her guy.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: He bought her something and he was like telling.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: Her John yes, and then she was like, okay, whatever
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: that means things are getting weird this season.
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  Speaker 1: Or Nini was dating a white man named John.
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  Speaker 2: John bought Nini a rolex and Niini got the rolex
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  Speaker 2: and said.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, okay, this is getting weird. So that was your
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: response to JT.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I responded the next day, and everybody was
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: pretty much like on my side with that. And I
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: think that sometimes, and I've learned this, when somebody says
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: something on social media that you don't like, your best
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: bet is to not even engage. Because the tweet was there,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: it didn't go viral until they engaged with it.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: And when they engaged with it, it got picked up everywhere.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I mean I looked at E News. It was on
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: E News, like it was everywhere, and it was because
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: they engaged with it.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: And it's like I tried.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I tried to learn this too, Like somebody will say
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: something I don't like, I will engage because you know what,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: in the moment, you might be like in your feelings.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: But then it's like, actually I ain't like what they said,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: but that shit was funny, Like, yes, it's about me,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: but it was fucking funny.
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  Speaker 4: I know how to take a joke, you know what
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I mean?
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: And so that was that Where can people follow?
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: You?
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Find you?
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  Speaker 4: Jesse?
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  Speaker 3: You can find me on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, the same,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: It's all the same on all platforms. Th E j
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: E S s I E woo V Jesse Wu on
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  Speaker 3: all social media platforms.
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  Speaker 2: Baby, that was a conversation for the books. I could
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: not stop laughing at Jesse. I could not stop learning
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: more from her. I'm so happy that I chose her
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: to have this conversation with because, guys, she even opened
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: up my eyes to a lot of things that I
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: didn't see. And that's the beauty of this podcast is
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: the fact that I'm not a know at all. I
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: don't know everything, so to have someone also educate me
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: on things, it's the beautiful part of this conversation that
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I have with Jesse Wu. And I must say, we
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: need to invite her back when we have more to
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: talk about, more to dish.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: And when she meets the city girls. Yes a let
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: us know Jesse.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Thoughts, opinions, reads about my conversation with Jesse wou email
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