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On Holiday with Jackie Kashian · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Anyone care for a few cold cuts before the fun starts?
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  Speaker 2: Hey everybody, this is Jimmy Pardo from the award-winning podcast
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  Speaker 2: Never Not Funny. You are listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 3: It's showtime.
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  Speaker 6: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million.
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  Speaker 5: Kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 3: Provide more cooling in the containment chambers. This is a
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  Speaker 3: full-blown four alarm holiday emergency here.
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  Speaker 7: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Brian and we are coming to you live via
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  Speaker 1: digital recording from Indianapolis and sort of indie pop-con and
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  Speaker 1: we're just sort of wandering around and Now we're hanging
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  Speaker 1: out with our special guest co-star, Jackie Cash.
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  Speaker 5: Hello.
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  Speaker 1: So, I guess to get our way into it, I've
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  Speaker 1: had a few different directions here. I guess first off,
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  Speaker 1: the comedy thing, which you've been doing quite a while now.
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  Speaker 8: Yes. I count the 80s as one year.
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  Speaker 7: One big, long, coke-filled year.
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  Speaker 8: It was a big, long, crazy, crazy time. But yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Doing this over the years, I've talked to a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different comics. And I keep trying to pin down.
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  Speaker 9: Like, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I have that gene, but I have like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a smart ass and I like talking obviously, but
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  Speaker 1: it's different to get on stage.
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  Speaker 7: Like it's different to want to get up there and
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  Speaker 7: deal with the crowd.
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  Speaker 8: Is that where the disconnect is for you?
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  Speaker 1: As I said earlier, I don't like people.
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  Speaker 8: Right, right.
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  Speaker 10: Oh no.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not that psyched. I mean, I just, because
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  Speaker 8: we're a pop con and it's crowded and it's annoying.
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  Speaker 8: But it's also really cool because you look around and
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  Speaker 8: you're like, oh, these are my people.
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  Speaker 1: See, that stuff I deal with, yeah, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: the presentation part of it because we've done live events
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  Speaker 1: and I've got up there and I've put together like
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  Speaker 1: the movies we're going to watch and all the other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I like the showcase part of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And then it got time to stand up there in
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  Speaker 7: the mic and I was like, I don't care what
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  Speaker 7: you people do.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't care about the people on hand.
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  Speaker 7: Like, I was recording.
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  Speaker 1: I cared about the people listening.
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  Speaker 10: Eventually.
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  Speaker 1: But like the people that showed up and were sitting
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  Speaker 1: there and being kind of smart asses, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care about any of you people.
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  Speaker 8: Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Which I know that's, I've heard a few say that
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  Speaker 1: that's part of the challenge for them is they want
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  Speaker 1: to win people over.
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  Speaker 7: They want to be able to do that. You don't
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  Speaker 7: have that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have that.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know what that is. That sounds interesting. I
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  Speaker 8: want everyone to like me. And I know that that's
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  Speaker 8: never going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's a geek thing. We want to be loved, but
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  Speaker 1: most people don't.
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  Speaker 8: Well, and it doesn't matter if they like me in the,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, that's what I've come to decide.
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 8: But with standup, it's with me, the first time I
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  Speaker 8: did it, it was, it's just, it's like heroin. So
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  Speaker 8: there's no not doing it. So I don't know. It's
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  Speaker 8: I mean, there's there's the smartest part of it. There's
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  Speaker 8: the fact that you want to you want to make
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  Speaker 8: people laugh and you want to you want people to
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  Speaker 8: like your jokes and stuff like that. But it's it's
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  Speaker 8: I and there's also an arrogance to it. You know,
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  Speaker 8: you're like, I think I have something to say. Whether
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  Speaker 8: it's a joke or it's a point or if it's,
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  Speaker 8: you know.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes that's more so depending on the comedy. Sometimes there's
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  Speaker 1: just that.
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  Speaker 8: There's definitely.
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  Speaker 1: And no material.
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  Speaker 8: And I don't use this word lightly. A spectrum.
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 8: So it is not.
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  Speaker 9: It's very true.
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  Speaker 8: By any coincidence. So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess that. first time what was it that
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  Speaker 1: kicked in then if it wasn't that like what was
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  Speaker 1: it that caused the adrenaline rush was it just the
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  Speaker 1: performing aspect or.
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  Speaker 8: Well i've i always when i was a kid i
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  Speaker 8: wanted to act and i wanted to perform and um
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  Speaker 8: and i was in i was in band everybody come
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  Speaker 8: on who doesn't want to.
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  Speaker 1: Hear about my bass even cooler.
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  Speaker 8: Bass clarinet huh it just gets cooler you guys how.
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  Speaker 7: The phone was already taken what.
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  Speaker 8: It's uh my brother uh he played the tuba and
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  Speaker 8: then He's even cooler than you. He played the piccolo.
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  Speaker 8: He was going for size. He played the flute and
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  Speaker 8: then he played the piccolo because it was smaller and
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  Speaker 8: it was less. And then he switched to tuba because
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  Speaker 8: they gave him two tubas and all he had to
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  Speaker 8: do was carry the mouthpiece back and forth to school.
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  Speaker 8: So my family, full of people looking for a shortcut.
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  Speaker 3: Slackers.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, doing what they can. And so, but the... Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: I don't... I just love it. It's... It's interesting, and
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  Speaker 8: I've been watching, like, in Indianapolis, I'm playing at this,
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  Speaker 8: there's new owners, brand new owners of this downtown Crackers.
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  Speaker 8: Crackers moved. I'm sure I will never work for Crackers
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  Speaker 8: again by taking this gig at Joker's. By the way,
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  Speaker 8: if you're going to start a comedy club, stop it.
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  Speaker 8: With the names.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to call it.
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  Speaker 7: Bob's comedy.
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  Speaker 8: There you go.
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  Speaker 7: Just give it the most generic, boring thing.
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  Speaker 8: The fact that I have to say crackers to black
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  Speaker 8: people is disappointing to me.
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  Speaker 7: Enough cracker going on right now.
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  Speaker 8: There's a lot of crackers going on in Indiana. No offense.
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  Speaker 8: And yet, offense. Because there's trouble in Indiana.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I think they know who they are.
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  Speaker 9: It's okay.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, and some of them embrace it a little too much.
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  Speaker 7: Then you've crossed the line.
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  Speaker 8: Exactly.
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  Speaker 7: That's not fun at all.
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  Speaker 8: Because I've been watching a lot of the new young
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  Speaker 8: comics because they had an open mic on Thursday that
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  Speaker 8: I closed. I did not know that that was happening.
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  Speaker 8: You brought down the house. Well, I have no interest
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  Speaker 8: in looking genius-like after a bunch of guys who have
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  Speaker 8: been doing it for two years. That's not where my ego.
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  Speaker 1: Lies, but fair enough.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Well, then again, I was equally as interested in once
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  Speaker 1: your show got started. I'm like, this is somebody, because again,
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  Speaker 1: podcasting by nature, like it found its home in dorks. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the geeks that we are, like nobody would
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  Speaker 1: take it upon themselves to create a show and not
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  Speaker 1: get paid for it. Like that's a geek thing.
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  Speaker 8: That's a pretty niche market. So yeah, in 2006, I
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  Speaker 8: started the Dork Forest and Granted, it was free when
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  Speaker 8: I started it, and for four years I did it
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  Speaker 8: on Blog Talk, and the audio was terrible. And then
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  Speaker 8: I had listeners who were like, seriously, you might want
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  Speaker 8: to pre-record and buy a toy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, update a little.
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  Speaker 8: And so I was like, well, so I sent out
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  Speaker 8: a thing that said, I'm going to need $ 600. And
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  Speaker 8: it turns out that is an attainable goal.
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  Speaker 1: A minimal investment.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I continue to keep buying these recorders and upgrading every time.
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  Speaker 10: Right, right.
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  Speaker 8: And yeah, that's what the donation thing is for, is
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  Speaker 8: to buy new wires and, and mics and better equipment
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  Speaker 8: and this type of thing. So, um, but initially it
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  Speaker 8: was 600 bucks and then it's 20 bucks a month
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  Speaker 8: for Libsyn.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And, um, I did a panel at some, at a,
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  Speaker 8: at a radio con, uh, with, with, uh, with fancy
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  Speaker 8: like with, uh, Chris Hardwick and, uh, the, the main
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  Speaker 8: producer at Nerdist podcasting, Katie Levine, uh, Dave Anthony, uh,
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  Speaker 8: who has the dollop or whatever. And then, um, two
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  Speaker 8: other women whose names I've forgotten because they don't do
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  Speaker 8: standup and I'm a jackass. So, uh, but the thing is,
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  Speaker 8: is that they were all kind of fancy. And then
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  Speaker 8: I am startup Magoo. I mean, I just did it
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  Speaker 8: myself and the rest of them are all, and I,
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  Speaker 8: and I'm part of all things, comedy.com umbrella, the dork
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  Speaker 8: forest is, but I came to it late. And so
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  Speaker 8: the guy who moderated it, great guy, but, hard, you know, at,
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  Speaker 8: at like, we only had an hour at 50 minutes.
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  Speaker 8: Hardwick had to say, do we want to take some questions?
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  Speaker 8: And the first question is, is how do you set
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  Speaker 8: up a podcast? And because people don't know, especially radio
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  Speaker 8: dinosaurs who are, they have a studio and, and, and,
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  Speaker 8: and people. And so Dave said, well, you know, you gotta,
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  Speaker 8: you know, you just set up an account with Lipson.
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  Speaker 8: Cause somebody said, how do you get the podcast to iTunes?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Carry it over on your back.
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  Speaker 8: It sounds dumb.
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  Speaker 1: It's a legit question, really.
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  Speaker 8: If you think about how Apple is always like, well,
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  Speaker 8: our stuff is super intuitive. It's like, no, it isn't.
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  Speaker 8: It's intuitive once you've done it for a day and
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  Speaker 8: a half.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you live in the Apple world, you know
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  Speaker 1: how to do everything.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, because it is comparable.
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  Speaker 7: From the outside?
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  Speaker 8: No, going in, it's a learned skill. So you've got to.
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  Speaker 8: Go to Libsyn, L-I-B-S-Y-N.com. And so like everyone who came
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  Speaker 8: up to me afterwards was like, what word did he say?
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  Speaker 8: And because he didn't spell it and he.
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  Speaker 1: Just said it.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, that's what we've been on since we started.
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  Speaker 7: We've been doing this forever.
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  Speaker 8: And it's one guy, as far as I can tell.
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  Speaker 8: It's Rob. Because whenever I've had any problems, I've emailed
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  Speaker 8: Libsyn and Rob's the only one who responds. He's the
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  Speaker 8: only one who goes to any convention I've ever been to.
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  Speaker 8: And I'm like, I hope you're making all the money, Rob,
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  Speaker 8: because it's $ 20 a month.
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  Speaker 7: And there's a lot of people using it.
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  Speaker 8: Almost everybody's using it. And then he has a template
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  Speaker 8: that he slaps over to make an app if you
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  Speaker 8: want your own app. So podcasting is fascinating.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's become too easy. I've talked about that
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  Speaker 7: a lot lately now.
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  Speaker 1: There's such a flood now that like– When I started,
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  Speaker 1: I knew the other shows. They weren't even in my town,
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  Speaker 1: but I knew the other 12 shows in this part
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  Speaker 1: of the country, some of them personally. And then now,
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  Speaker 1: I can't even find a show because there's 10,000 other
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  Speaker 1: shows on top of it at this point.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, somebody gave me a card yesterday for a board
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  Speaker 8: game podcast because my husband's a game designer and... he
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  Speaker 8: comes to the board game convention here in Indiana and
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  Speaker 8: I lost the card immediately and I can't remember the
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  Speaker 8: name of the podcast and if I google the words
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  Speaker 8: board game podcast there's going to be 12,000 podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: I know one I can give it to you later
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  Speaker 1: we'll see I don't know if it's the right one
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  Speaker 1: but it's a decent one well somebody else.
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  Speaker 8: Gave me their card too and I was like But
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  Speaker 8: they had come to the stand-up show, too, so I
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  Speaker 8: was like, oh, well, I don't know how to get
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  Speaker 8: you guys back. Was it you guys? I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: So I just tweeted out. I just sent a tweet
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  Speaker 8: and said, hey, did anybody give me a card yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: That person with the card.
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  Speaker 7: You're now doing announcements.
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  Speaker 1: If someone lost the card.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 7: You people.
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  Speaker 1: And then getting into your topic, it was one of those, again,
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  Speaker 1: we're such geeks, and we're so steeped in that at
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  Speaker 1: this point, but I like, I mean, I somewhat focused
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  Speaker 1: in one area. Again, we sort of slide around different ways, but.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: With yours, you go to different people, and each time
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  Speaker 1: they bring something different to the table, which is really cool.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, right.
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  Speaker 8: The Dork Forest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah. Like, this week's episode is a friend of mine who, like,
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  Speaker 8: I do a lot of comics. I try to mix
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  Speaker 8: it up, though. I try not to do just stand-up comics.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Because it can weed off into comedy then.
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  Speaker 1: Which a lot of those shows do.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 8: And so she teaches meditation and went and looked into
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  Speaker 8: her navel over in Tibet or India or wherever. And
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  Speaker 8: it was fascinating because she is a dork about– it's
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  Speaker 8: the dork forest. And the last week's episode was this
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  Speaker 8: woman who has watched every episode of Sex and the City.
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  Speaker 3: On purpose? Innumerable.
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  Speaker 8: Innumerable times.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And that's the thing about the Dork Forest is that
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  Speaker 8: if I don't like the thing that you like, save space.
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  Speaker 8: You get to dork out about whatever the thing you like.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know anything about MMA or wrestling. Those wrestling
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  Speaker 8: guys are pretty intense, though. They're hardcore. They're hard to
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  Speaker 8: stop talking.
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, hey.
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  Speaker 1: That's their job.
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  Speaker 7: More than hitting people is talking about hitting people beforehand.
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  Speaker 8: The fans, it's just like, well, this has been fascinating.
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  Speaker 8: I'm turning off the recorders. Because when people dork out
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  Speaker 8: about what they love.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: It's nonstop.
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  Speaker 8: I'm one of them. Yeah, I'm on board.
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  Speaker 7: But that's, yeah. And there's so many weird little tiny
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  Speaker 7: rabbit holes you can fall down now.
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  Speaker 1: On the way here, I was like, I'm nominating Misty,
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  Speaker 1: who's sitting here. Hers is like, of the new things
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  Speaker 1: she's gotten into, there's so many levels of her geekiness.
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  Speaker 1: But like, the young adult horror themed novel.
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  Speaker 2: Fear Street Books.
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  Speaker 6: Christopher Pike.
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  Speaker 8: Christopher Pike is the author? No, that's a different genre.
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  Speaker 8: You've got R.L. Stine as the Fear Street books and
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  Speaker 8: Christopher Pike as another genre.
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  Speaker 1: It's all the young adult.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, right.
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  Speaker 8: YA stuff is huge, man.
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  Speaker 7: But this is like 80s and stuff.
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  Speaker 9: From when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, so old school.
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  Speaker 8: It's so narrow. That's beautiful. It's the very specific young
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  Speaker 8: adult stuff when it started. Prior, they called them boys
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  Speaker 8: books when... And I was going to say, when I
• 13:01
  Speaker 8: was a kid, 1910? Back in the day. That's not,
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  Speaker 8: except for the fact that that is not true.
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  Speaker 7: When we invented books.
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  Speaker 8: Joseph A. Altshuler wrote this series of books, and they
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  Speaker 8: were called boys' books. And they're better written than they have,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, they're amazing. I'm sure that they were crap
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  Speaker 8: in the day.
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  Speaker 1: Because he was born in 1860. All of that was popey, schlocky.
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  Speaker 3: Right, he was born in 1865.
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  Speaker 8: He died in like 1922. And he wrote a Civil
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  Speaker 8: War series, four and four. Guess what it was? Cousins.
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  Speaker 8: One fought for the North, one fought for the South,
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  Speaker 8: you guys. Joseph A. Altshuler.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy.
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  Speaker 8: I read them when I was in junior high.
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  Speaker 7: We should make a miniseries out of them.
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  Speaker 8: And they're out of print, but guess what? They're free
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  Speaker 8: on Kindle because they're in public domain now.
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  Speaker 7: Because they're so old, yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And then he also wrote French and Indian Revolution books.
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  Speaker 8: French and Indian Wars one, and there were four of them.
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  Speaker 7: What about a weird niche?
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  Speaker 8: It's super. And then he wrote, I think it was
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  Speaker 8: two books set in World War I. And those were
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  Speaker 8: his last two books. And so, you know, they're just,
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  Speaker 8: they're called boys books because they're about 17-year-old kids who
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  Speaker 8: essentially either go into the woods or go to war. And, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: But YA as a topic, I think, only came up
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  Speaker 8: in the 80s. Like that's when the real genre started.
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  Speaker 8: And so you're into horror?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, well.
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  Speaker 8: But not too spooky, because I read it before I
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  Speaker 8: go to bed, and I don't want to have nightmares. Oh, jeez,
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  Speaker 8: I can't read any of them. Have you ever read
• 14:30
  Speaker 8: Gail Carriger? She writes steampunk vampire, they're freaking awesome. It's
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  Speaker 8: called The Finishing School, and it's a series of, they're,
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  Speaker 8: There's an adult series and there's a YA series. And
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  Speaker 8: the finishing school is the YA series. And it's about
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  Speaker 8: girls who go to this finishing school and they learn
• 14:49
  Speaker 8: to use their fans as weapons. And they learn how
• 14:53
  Speaker 8: to dress cool and poisons. And it's a world that
• 14:57
  Speaker 8: is steampunk and it's a world that has vampires and
• 15:00
  Speaker 8: werewolves and other spookies. So Gail Carragher, I would think Carragher,
• 15:09
  Speaker 8: but she's been on the Dork Forest, and she said
• 15:12
  Speaker 8: it's Carragher. So who am I? I'll pronounce my name Cation.
• 15:15
  Speaker 8: That's how I do it.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it hit that time. That's what you
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: were saying, that didn't even exist in the 80s, and
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to ask you was just about
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: the dorkiness, our geek obsessions.
• 15:26
  Speaker 7: Is that just.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Because we live in this time? Like starting in the 80s,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: that was the Gen X thing kicked in when we
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: were little kids.
• 15:33
  Speaker 8: And computers, and now you could prodigy and meet people
• 15:36
  Speaker 8: in other towns. Which I did.
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: And talked to this girl in California forever and never
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: got to know who she was, really. Like, it was just.
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: Weird interconnections through the computer.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: It's a new thing, kids. It's going to catch on.
• 15:47
  Speaker 8: I think it was the computer. It had to be
• 15:49
  Speaker 8: because you could find the 12 other people in the
• 15:51
  Speaker 8: world who liked the very specific Garbage Pail Kid stickers
• 15:55
  Speaker 8: that you had when you were a kid. They also
• 15:58
  Speaker 8: had those same. And so, I mean, it used to
• 16:01
  Speaker 8: be pen pals, you know?
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 16:03
  Speaker 8: But now... And now you can just go on any
• 16:06
  Speaker 8: Reddit board in the world and you can meet a
• 16:08
  Speaker 8: hundred people that are your friends.
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: And is it that we just have more time?
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Like, again, we're just a lazier culture now. Like World
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: War II, people wouldn't have cared about any of this
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: nonsense because they were trying to die and keep their
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: family alive.
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, my father always says that when we
• 16:25
  Speaker 8: were kids, he used to say that we had a
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: lot more free time and that it it created revolution.
• 16:30
  Speaker 8: He said, you know, the great thing about dictatorships is
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: that they don't have any time because they're busy trying
• 16:35
  Speaker 8: not to be killed by the government and then a
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: lot of farming, trying to find food and shelter. And
• 16:41
  Speaker 8: my father, sometimes glass half full, sometimes glass half empty,
• 16:45
  Speaker 8: that guy.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I think we all had that, right?
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think. And so he is, but I think
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: there's definitely a leisure class, especially among white people. You know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 8: I mean, there's a certain amount of, even if you're
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: poor and white, you are saving up for, I don't know,
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: a bass boat.
• 17:02
  Speaker 9: A new Xbox.
• 17:03
  Speaker 8: Right, your Xbox or your PS4 and it's, it's, yeah, it's, and,
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: you know, I got, I got a nephew, I got
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: a couple of nephews who refuse to get a shitty
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: day job because they're above it. And I'm like, really?
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Again, I think that's that new generational thing that like
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: each generation we get a little worse about it.
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: The rest of that generation, because I have a dozen
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: nieces and nephews. I have 13 nieces and nephews and
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: four great nieces and nephews. And, uh, The other, I
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: would say 11 of them, have had shitty day jobs.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I think we're giving them that option now, though. It
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: didn't used to be. It was like, you're 11, go
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: get a job.
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: And you would. But now we've got it very relaxed.
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, your parents will let you move back in with them.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: My parents were not interested.
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: Working on that right now.
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: What are you doing?
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, Lord.
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: But no, I don't know. It's just a weird generational thing.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Thing that i think has allowed us to all be
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: these geeks that we want to be i think it's
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the tech yeah yeah i think that i think it's
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: all of that yeah world into one it's just timing
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: of the universe right right.
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: It's 30 years of of tech which is two generations
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: of of people just going no no and and and
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: it's awesome because of the costumes because uh like i I,
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: the kind of dork that I've been, the kind of
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: nerd or geek that I've always been is sort of marginal.
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: I mean, I always read a lot and that made
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: me sort of antisocial. but I didn't have that sort
• 18:26
  Speaker 8: of community. My husband, he is a game designer, but
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: when he was 19, he was in the first LARPing.
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: They didn't even call it LARPing. He was like, it's
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: a costume party with game mechanics. It was a theater event.
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: It was part of his science fiction club. They would
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: play board games, and they would play D & D,
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: and they would play LARPing, and then then LARPing was
• 18:53
  Speaker 8: invented and codified. And then now there's buffer LARPing and
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: theatrical LARPing. And, and I know all this because I
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: have a podcast where people tell me too much about everything.
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: And so I have a little bit of information. I
• 19:04
  Speaker 8: don't know enough about anything to be an expert on it,
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: but I'm enthusiastic, which is good. That'll do.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's just that weird thing that's
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: kicked in now. And it, it just gives us the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: freedom and the way to connect with all.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: These other dorks that like the same thing.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: That's, It's good.
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: I wonder where we're going this next couple of generations ahead.
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: It's frightening if I think about it too much. So
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: we'll just see how it goes.
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: Don't be scared. It's going to be fine. What my
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: father said about, I was reading a book about the
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: science fiction book and he goes, what are you reading?
• 19:40
  Speaker 8: What are you reading over there? And I said, well,
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: it's about a dystopian future. It's kind of cool. And
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: he goes, you know, people are always talking about a
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: dystopian future. Have you looked around? We live in a
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: dystopian present. You know what the dystopian future is going
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: to look like? Just like this. Your car is going
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: to be 10 years old and you're going to be
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: looking for work. Don't worry about it. Again, glass half full.
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: That guy's around. So don't worry about it. It's going
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: to be fine. You're going to keep plugging, and then
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: one day you will die.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: We make do.
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it is cheerful, but it's, you know, just trying
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: to have fun in the midst. That's my thing anyway.
• 20:13
  Speaker 11: I met you a week ago today I never thought
• 20:18
  Speaker 11: it would end this way I thought for sure this
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: time it would last.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: I can't believe it's gone so fast. But it was.
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: So nice while it lasted.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: So very nice while it lasted.
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: It was so nice.
• 20:42
  Speaker 11: So nice while it lasted.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Seven days I.
• 20:52
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• 20:56
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• 21:03
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• 21:56
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• 22:01
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• 22:06
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  Speaker 6: It's part of your problem, you know.
• 24:11
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• 24:13
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• 24:16
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• 24:54
  Speaker 13: If we took the holiday, took some time to celebrate,
• 25:00
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• 25:08
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• 25:22
  Speaker 1: All right, so I guess to ease our way into movies,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you picked a movie. Have you always been a movie
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: fan as like a side dorky thing?
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: No.
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: I like movies, but I don't know. Like Doug Benson
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: has a podcast about movies, and it's called Doug Loves Movies,
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: and there's always some contest where you have to know
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: things about movies, and I'm the worst. I mean, I
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: think there are worse people than me. So as per usual, I.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: i don't care enough.
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: To know i and i have i genuinely have some
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: sort of there's like 200 slots in my brain where
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: i can recognize people and everybody looks the same other
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: than that and there's five different people in the world
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: yeah so if you are a giant black guy i've
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: seen you before and i don't know what your name
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: is is jim No, that's not it. I'm sorry. Barry?
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: And if you're a white guy with a beard, you're
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: also fucked.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: Because I know a 30 of those guys. And if
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: you do stand-up, I'm screwed.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: And so if you're a white woman who is tiny
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: and very fit, yeah, I know a hundred of you.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: This makes trivia really hard for you.
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: So, yeah.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: It's that one guy, you know.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: So I... Even as a kid, I got Rock Hudson
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: and Cary Grant mixed up. And they're both tall, dark-haired dudes.
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: But they're very different looking. I mean, I can tell
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: them apart now.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Hi.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: But it took.
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: And by the way, those are two of the slots.
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: It's not cool. It's not okay. So Jake Gyllenhaal from Minnesota.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: Jake, Maggie, I don't know.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I can't keep it straight.
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, so him and Ryan Gosling and... all
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: of those sort of dark-haired, super-fit dudes, you're like, now
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: they seem very handsome.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Well, especially now. I think, like, at least back in
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the day, you could be kind of different-looking and get
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: different kind of roles. But now I feel like modern
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: movies want nothing but pretty people, and they want them
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: all to be kind of one of those six people
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: that you've seen before. Because that way, if we can't
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: get him, we'll just get this guy, because he looks
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a lot like him anyway, and they're both mediocre actors,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: so whatever, you know.
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: I don't know how their acting is, but the... Okay.
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: You guys said that, not me.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I wasn't naming specifics.
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: I'm trying to work in this industry.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying a lot of actors.
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: You guys want to shit on some actors, you go
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: for it. Just some actors.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't say which actors.
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: I think Ryan Gosling and Jake Gyllenhaal. Those guys are
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: mediocre actors, right?
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Gyllenhaal's really good.
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: Those guys are mediocre, you just said, right?
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: No. Take it back.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I was just naming actors in general. There are plenty
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: out there. They can't all be good.
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: No, no. Yeah, yeah. There's plenty of crummy everybody, right?
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that's why I think it's weird, though.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: The industry now kind of feeds off of what they need. And,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: you know, regardless of whether or not you're talented... Who's.
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: That fat guy who's always funny? Who got skinny?
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: You know, that one guy.
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: Jonah Hill? Jonah Hill?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Jonah.
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Jonah Hill, I think.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: But now he's a serious actor. Maybe that's why he
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: had to lose the weight.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: He wanted to be taken serious.
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and then there's Adam Sandler, and he's goofy looking. So,
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: I mean, there's kind of... There's the goofy looking dude thing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: And then... um, Melissa McCarthy, who was on, I loved
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: her on Gilmore girls. And so, but she has opened
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: up some normal looking women and fat women can now
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: be in movies. And that's an exciting, a brave new world.
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: And I'm amazed, like just this last season, I hadn't
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: paid attention to the show, her show. And I was
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: just like, it came on. I was like, oh my God,
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: I haven't seen her lately.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: She's dropped so much weight.
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: Mike and Molly?
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: She is so skinny compared to looking back at Gilmore Girls.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: She was a big lady.
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: She's lost a lot of weight.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I'm mostly just impressed. I'm like, you did a lot
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: of work for that. But I wonder how much is,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I'm getting real movie roles now.
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: I wonder if I will start.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: To lose those if I don't. Conform a little bit.
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: No, they shit on her hardcore all the time about
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: her weight, and she's never going to weigh 135 pounds.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: And that's the way everybody knows her. I was kind
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: of like, you don't want to change too much because
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: your fan base loves you for who you are, and
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: if you kind of turn on them and become somebody else.
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: Saying, Hey, fat fuck, why don't you lose some weight?
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: She's not going to Holly.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Well, it's the fact that she broke through is amazing.
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: Really?
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: And she was, and it's, I mean, there's, there was
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: this great article about that just complained about all of
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: her that said that she was the same character in
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: all of her roles. And you're like, No, I don't
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: know that you're watching. Are you watching this?
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: In general, that happens a lot. Let's not single her
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: out for being who she is or a woman or whatever,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: but Adam Sandler? Is he different in any movie?
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but the role that she played in the Gilmore
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: Girls was a lot different than the sort of trashy
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: no Miranda rights in the heat versus the sort of
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: uptight spy lady in spy, you know, those are all.
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: And then she was a criminal in the, in the
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: thing that I couldn't watch cause that looked horrible. Um,
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: and then, but cause I, I genuinely love Melissa McCarthy.
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: I would, but I would not, I can't watch her.
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: I mean, I, I love her with Paul Feig. I
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: think it's, I love her. He's directed the, the heat.
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: And I think he directed Spy as well. Yeah, he did.
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: So I think I like Paul Feig a lot, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: I like the woman who wrote The Heat. She used
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: to write on Parks and Rec. And it was filthy,
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: but it was hilarious and not a Miranda right to
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: be seen.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: It's essentially The Heat reminds me of sort of an
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: updated version of Midnight Run. Did you ever see that?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite buddy movies ever. Above and
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: beyond buddy movies.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: Like, it's just a great movie, period.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Like, it's just well written.
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Those two, again, finding a dynamic that shouldn't work. and
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: clicked in a way you never would have seen. It
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: was amazing.
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: That's such a great movie. I thought about picking that
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: one for this, but you wouldn't have had to actually watch.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: It because I'm sure you own it. I would have
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: re-watched it. You would have re-watched it.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: I'm in for these.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I let people pick the weirdest stuff sometimes, and I'm like,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I'm in if you want to watch When Harry Met Sally.
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: What kind of movies don't you like?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I'm again, I don't single out any, like.
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: I can't watch horror. I can't see. I love horror.
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: I'm sure that's your favorite, but like I tried to
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: trade with somebody in college. They said, if you watch
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: the omen, I'll watch pillow talk. And so I was like, well,
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: we have to end with pillow talk cause I'm going
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: to bed. And so we watched the omen and then
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: they wouldn't fricking watch pillow talk.
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: And, uh, Pillow Talk's adorable.
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: It's an indictment against society, you guys. It's pretty sweet.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I think the newer stuff that falls, again, the more romantic,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: or actually comedies in general, like the handful that we've mentioned,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the Paul Feig stuff, maybe I feel like a lot
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: of comedies now are so dumbed down that I don't
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: seek them out.
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: Well, there's Trouble. it's steve carell is an amazing actor
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: yeah uh i have yet to see a script that
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: he has chosen that i have been psyched about.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: And i'm assuming that's just what they hand him like
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: they're just we want you to be kind of that
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: steve carell guy here's a script that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: Remember devil wears prada with meryl streep and uh and
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: the and the ute uh okay and hathaway yes and
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: uh and uh and the and who played her boyfriend
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: okay Okay. Well, it's two different movies, Devil Wears Prada.
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: Meryl Streep is in a drama about a middle-aged lady
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: going through a divorce. And Anne Hathaway is in a
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: romantic comedy that's poorly written. And they're two different. I
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: would like to see both of those movies. I certainly
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: don't want to see that movie.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: Jammed together.
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: That movie is jarring as all hell to me. And
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: it got Academy Award. It got so acclaimed. And I
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: was like, And I was taking an acting class and
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: they insisted we watch it. And I was like, no,
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: this is not good. But I've also, in acting class,
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: they asked who our favorite actor was. And I said
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: Dennis Quaid. Just because I think he's handsome.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I love Jaws 3D. I love Breaking Away. He is
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: good in Breaking Away. That's one of those, like, I.
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: May not be your movie geek that you're looking for,
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: by the way.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Well, no, again, because I like to throw it out
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: there to everybody. I don't like to fall too much into,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: because again, we'll do horror all day long, but I'm like.
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: I think you just start to repeat yourself after a while.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Like, you just fall into the same, again, my Dork
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Forest angle is like, I feel like you can go
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: to movies and find anything, really, because each story differs
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: so much because you are getting totally different topics and
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: totally different parts of the world, maybe, and like, you
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: just bring in a totally different approach to it depending
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: on the movie.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: So I just kind of like film.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: But then I'm certainly drawn to the geekier genres. I
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: like your sci-fis and your horrors.
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: Have you ever heard Matt Weinhold's podcast called, him and
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: four other guys, it's not his podcast, but it's called
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: Monster Party. And all they talk about are monsters.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: Yes. I, I, I know of it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: I did one about supposedly fiendish females and they know
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: that I don't know anything about movies. So they're like,
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: you could pick comic books and TV and books if
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: you need to. And they said, who's your fiendish female?
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: And my, and luckily out the gate, I had picked
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: Shelob from Lord of the Rings, who is the spider in, in, um,
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: in the, in, in Kirith Ungle in the, yeah. So, uh,
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: So that, that was a save, but I, I, they
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: know so many monster movies from the thirties and forties
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: and fifties and you know, all these.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: And one of the episodes coming up on the dork
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: forest is just about zombies.
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: And there's a multitude now.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: And well, this guy, he bought five or six years ago,
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: started working with his people to make a role playing
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: game where you could, uh, it's called outbreak undead maybe.
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: And whatever, it doesn't matter, but.
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: It's all interchangeable.
• 35:18
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: And well, he, The cool thing about his RPG is
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: that you can make yourself as a zombie fighter and
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: play your character, except for that you probably die because
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: you don't have any skill sets. So what you do
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: is you fill out this personality. He actually commissioned a
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: personality test. So you answer like 40 questions. It gives
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: you your stats. And then he said that somebody emailed
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: him and they said, because of the game, they went
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: and they started working out.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I want to change my stats.
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: And they started going to the gun range, which, by
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: the way, I've only been to the gun range once.
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: Super fun. That's where guns belong, at the gun range.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I'm working out my charisma. I'm going to roll my
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: 20 die and see where I end up.
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: On that range. And stand-up comics, all we have are charisma.
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: It's not going to help with zombies. You will be killed.
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: You will die. You will be piled upon.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Get a zombie with a really good sense of humor.
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: He's like, wait, wait, wait, guys.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Let's not eat him yet.
• 36:17
  Speaker 10: Hold on.
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: Shaun of the Dead.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: He's got some good material here.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute.
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: But yeah. So again, that's kind of my take.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I think there's so much to film that you can
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: find whatever you want from it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: And then everybody.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Normally, again, I run into some people that just don't
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: get it as a whole. But for the most part,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: most people at least have like their thing that they're
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: into if it's one movie or one genre or something.
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: That they just kind of are taken with.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: So to get into this.
• 36:44
  Speaker 9: Week's... It's time for Sofa Theater.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: How's your garden grow, Case?
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: Is life wonderful where you are?
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: Can be.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: But it hasn't been? Well, I don't call what I've
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: been doing living.
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: And what do you recommend for yourself, Doctor?
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: A holiday. Follow him. As long as I need.
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: You mean just to play?
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: No.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: No, I've been working since I was 10. I want
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: to find out why I'm working. The answer can't be
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: just to pay bills or to pile up more money.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Even if you do, the government's going to take most
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: Yes, but what is the answer?
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. That's what I intend to find out.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: You know, the world's changing out there. There's a lot
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: of new, exciting ideas running around. Some of them might
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: be writing, some might be car guy, but they're affecting
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: all our lives. They want to know how I stand,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: where I fit into the picture, what it's all going.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: To mean to me.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: I can't find that out sitting behind some desk in
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: an office, so as soon as I get enough money together,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I'm going to knock off for a while.
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: Quit?
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: Quit.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I want to save part of my life for myself.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: There's a catch to it, though. It's got to be
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: part of the young part. You know, retire young, work old.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Come back and work when I know what I'm working for.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Does that make sense to you?
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: This week's Silver Theater feature is Holiday. The year is 1938.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: The director is George Cukor. Cukor.
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: I was trying to make.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Sure I wrote it down the right way.
• 37:53
  Speaker 8: Cukor.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And the plot, according to IMDb, which is always sketchy,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: a young man falls in love with a girl from
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a rich family. His unorthodox plans to go on a
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: holiday for the early years of his life are met
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: with skepticism by everyone except for his fiance's eccentric sister
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and long-suffering brother. Spoiler alert.
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: Except for that it's Cary Grant and Katharine Hepburn plays
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: the sister.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: So who goes in thinking that they're not going to
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: probably end up together?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Actually, again, we're rolling right into it here. So yeah,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: go watch the movie because we'll spoil all this. But
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: it's been since 1938. So really, you're falling behind here.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: Rosebud.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't expect to... get that far in,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: you know, at least eventually you start seeing there's something there.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: But like, yeah, the fact that we start off with
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the sister and he spent so much time, I was like,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: is it just not going to be a couple? Like,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: are they just characters that happen to be in the story?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Cause they always put them together and like, usually they're
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: a couple. And I was like, this one's a little
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: different the way they're approaching it.
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: This one is incredibly well written. It's one of the
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: best written romantic comedies I think I've ever seen. I've
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: ever seen. And there's some great romantic comedies of that era, obviously.
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: There's His Girl Friday and.
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: It Happened One Night.
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: It Happened One Night and Bring a Baby. Bring a
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: Baby with Cary Grant and Katharine Hepburn. Katharine Hepburn plays
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: an idiot. And it is almost impossible. I have friends
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: who cannot watch it because they're like, she is not an...
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: what is, I can't.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Which is weird for her.
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: That is so not her type.
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: That's her acting.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: And so that's some acting going on. She's probably the
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: smartest person in the room.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: That was what I was sort of mentioning earlier. Like,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like now you have to be the same
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: cookie cutter thing. I was like, back in the day.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: specifically for women in the day like you could be
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: very unconventional you didn't like you could look like betty
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: davis and get leading film roles and i'm just like
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: that doesn't really happen now like you have to be
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: very specific and have a very leading woman look and
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: i feel like especially that run in like the 40s
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: where like they just gave great actresses great roles and
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: i'm just like that's awesome and like what a great
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: time it would have been to be an actress because
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: They were making a lot of it. He's a director
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: that kind of did that. He would always kind of
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: find amazing actresses and bring them in and be like.
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: George Cukor is amazing. He's such a great director. And
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: this movie, I saw it in 1989, I think, or 1990.
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: And I watched it, VHS, and then rewound it and
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: watched it again. That's why I ended up picking it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: It blew my mind because it has such a political B-plot. Like,
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: the message of it is just about, you know, we
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: were talking earlier about people doing what they want and
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: having this free time and this niche kind of thing.
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: And it's essentially about, you know, there's no reason. Cary
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: Grant grew up poor. And so he grows up poor.
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: And then he's... become relatively successful. And he's like, you know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: if I, if, if this deal goes through, I'm going
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: to take off.
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 41:11
  Speaker 8: And you get the impression that he's going to take
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: off for like three or four years.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: At least.
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: At least.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: He kind of makes it seem like, and I'm done working.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just, I might have to come back to
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: it later if things don't work out. But he seems
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: like at that point he's done. And if everything, again,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: he's so like open-minded about it. He's just like, and
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: if everything falls through, I might have to come back
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: and get a job when I'm old. But like, Right.
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: Or the money's going to last as long as the
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: money lasts, you know?
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: And he's not worried about it. It's not like I'm
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: stockpiling as much as I can. He's just like, I'm
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: going to take off as long as I can take off.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: We'll see how this goes.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: And it has this sort of a Capra-esque kind of
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: feel to it, except for that Frank Capra, he's a
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: little bit with a hammer, you know?
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: He's very structured in the way he does his very
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: happy little world.
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: Well, his message, there's never ever, like, it's not a mystery, right?
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: Do you remember that– I'm trying to find the movie
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: in my head, which is– it's a movie with Jimmy Stewart,
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: You Can't Take It With You. That's it. And You
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: Can't Take It With You was a huge hit early,
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: and I can't remember what year it was, but it
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: was during the Depression, and it was essentially about money,
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: and it was about people who had a lot of
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: money and who didn't have a lot of money. And
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: in Holiday, it's about people who have a lot of
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: money and about people– who sort of the American dream
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: where you worked and you used your smarts and you
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: used hard work and you got far. And then you
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: looked around and saw all that money and was like, oh, well,
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure this is not going to fill the
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: hole in my heart. So I'm going to go look
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: for that. And then he has the greatest friends in
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: the world. The two professors, the couple.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that whole little relationship is amazing to watch.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: And those character actors, I forget, do you have the.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I have the actors, yeah.
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: Let's see. Nick Potter is... Edward Everest Horton.
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: Yes, Edward Everest Horton, who was a great character actor
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: from the 30s.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Actually, the whole time I'm like, she looks really familiar.
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: She's Jean Dixon.
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: And she's Dick Dixon, yeah.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she turns up in a lot of stuff over
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the years.
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: And their timing together and their riffing is adorable and hilarious. And,
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: you know, when they're up in the playroom and Seton says,
• 43:31
  Speaker 8: Comes up.
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: The jackass cousin couple.
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: The jackass cousin couple. And he's like, you would make
• 43:37
  Speaker 8: more money if we had the right kind of government.
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: And so George Cukor is incredibly... He's just a lot
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: more subtle about dreams and about money and about government
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: and about politics. But I found it, in 1989 when
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: I watched it, enormously radical. I was like, this is 1938.
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: And.
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: They're talking about the brother who is a musician who
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: is not allowed. He's not allowed. He has to be
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: a banker because that's what his family's always done. But
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: he doesn't want to be a banker.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: And he plays everything. Like within the course of this,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: you see him like.
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: He's playing the drums. He plays piano.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: He's playing like a piccolo or something when he comes
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: in the room. He's obviously very talented.
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: Right, he screwed around with a stringed instrument at one point.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like he's just been forced to be nothing but,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: you know, okay, well, you have to be part of
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: this rich family. We don't want any musicians hanging around.
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: Right, right, you're a cypher.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: So instead, you're a drunk. Like, we've just forced you
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: to become the family drunk because you can't pursue your dreams.
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: Man, one of the greatest lines in that movie is.
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: So how long does it last? You know, how long
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: does it work? And he goes, well, as long as
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: it lasts. And she's just like, oh Christ, that actually
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: hurts my heart. I can't. Well, that's, I don't think
• 44:55
  Speaker 8: I can do that.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: That speech with him, the brother in particular, like he,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: he does above and beyond a normal, just drunk character role.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: He's a little better than that, but he doesn't have
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: a time to do through most of it. And then
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: there's that one, like three fourths of the way in
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: where it's just that scene with him and his sister.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: And he gives that speech and you're like, okay, like
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: this is like, he's an actor. He's a real actor
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: because that, that whole thing of like, you understand why
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: he's as sad as he is. Why is he, he
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: uses like him describing what it's like to be drunk.
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: Right. Cause you can judge him in the beginning of
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: the movie. You can judge him the second time you
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: see him. Uh, you get a little bit, a glimpse
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: into him that first time up in the playroom. And then,
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: and then he has that great scene. And then he
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: has the second great scene where he tries to talk
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: to her about how she has so much more charisma
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: than her sister. And then at the end of it,
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: I worry about that guy. I worry about that character
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: where you're like.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: He feels very real though because it's like you see
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of people going through life that are just
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: really sad and they don't look like they're looking for
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: a way out. They've just accepted it.
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: Right, but they've got those horse blinders on and he's
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: in that corridor.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: And they found a crutch. That's what his is. He's like,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fix my problems. Probably even if I
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: had a way to, it's too much work at this point.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I've gotten into my cycle here. I found what makes
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: it work for me, and it's booze.
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and if he could get out of that corridor,
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: his life, I think, would be so much bigger.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Because he's smart, and he's talented. And you could see
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: if he could get away from, again, I guess the
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: whole family. It's like if he could get out of
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: that little corner he's been shoved into, he'd probably do
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: just fine.
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: But that's what I thought was interesting. And also, it's
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: probably the bigger picture of the culture and the government,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: as they refer to it minorly. but I think just
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: the family structure thing, I think you also get that,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: like the structure of, because they make it seem like
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: grandfather worked his way up. He was a bootstrap kind
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: of guy.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: So you see like, he's kind of the, the Cary
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Grant of the bunch. Like he's the one that came
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: in and like, I'm going to work my way to success.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: And then we see what happens when you get to
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: children of success.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Who have an entirely, like they do not understand anything
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: that is not the world around them. So when somebody
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: like Cary Grant comes, they're like, Whoa, what is this?
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Like it's, For some, it's a breath of fresh air.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: For some, it's like, oh, why are you even here?
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: They're so above normal people that they don't even comprehend
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: how to live in that world.
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: Right, and there's also, and this is, talk about the minutiae,
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: because I've seen them. I own it. I watch it
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: on a regular basis.
• 47:24
  Speaker 9: Still on VHS.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: Yes, I do. And a remote that has a wire. Now,
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: the kid- When we look at grandfather and we look
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: at Cary Grant, that's the parallel. At one point, the sister,
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: who he initially falls in love with, is like, you're
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: going to be like grandfather. And he's like, oh, no.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: No.
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: No, I'm not. Because.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I look around at this and I'm like, my plan
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: is to get away from everything that.
• 47:49
  Speaker 10: You now have.
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: Well, and also, I think it was the choices that
• 47:53
  Speaker 8: her grandfather made.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: You know, when Catherine Hepburn says, you know, he stole
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: the company from the shareholders.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: That's a decision Cary Grant doesn't want to make. And
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: that's the choice that he makes. He's like, I'm going
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: to make a shitload of money and then I'm going
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: to go navel gaze in Tibet and possibly take up meditation.
• 48:11
  Speaker 8: We don't know what he's going to do, but he's just.
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: I don't think he even knows what he's going to do.
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: I'm going to find myself.
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: He's going to take a cruise to Europe with the.
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: Potters or the Porters. Who doesn't want to go with them?
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I want to hang out with them forever. They're
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: pretty cool. And the fact that he could do a
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: back flip-flop Cary Grant can do a backward flip-flop. It's amazing.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: That's, yeah, something I didn't see coming. He's always so
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: buttoned down in his roles. And to watch him being
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: very silly in a lot of scenes, I'm not used
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to him doing that.
• 48:41
  Speaker 8: Right, and she's standing on his shoulders at one point,
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: and that's clearly both of those actors.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: And they do flip off onto the floor, and she
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't die. And they do a topple.
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: I was unfamiliar with your vaudeville training.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't see her being able to land that move
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and not injure herself.
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: Catherine Hepburn in the Philadelphia story as opposed to Grace
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: Kelly in High Society because it's a musical remake with
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: Frank Sinatra. The Philadelphia story has Jimmy Stewart and Catherine
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: Hepburn and uh, high society has been Crosby, Frank Sinatra
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: and Grace Kelly in the Philadelphia story. Um, Catherine Hepburn
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: jumps into the water in the pool and Grace Kelly
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: does not. Grace Kelly is like, Oh, I think not.
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: I will not be ruining my hair.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: And, uh, you will eventually refer to me as princess.
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: Yes, exactly.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I don't have to jump in the pool.
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: I don't have to jump in the pool. So, but
• 49:37
  Speaker 8: it was, it's such a, in some ways I find
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: it just a very palatable, important movie, the holiday, just
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: because it's so, it's one of those movies where you can,
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: you can get a kid to watch it and it's
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: in black and white because it's a comedy, but like
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: you couldn't do with of mice and men or with
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: a lot of other, my favorite thing about romantic comedies
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: or movies in general is the B plot is the
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: B message. Like, It could be right wing. It could
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: be left wing. It doesn't matter. Remember Blue Crush? The
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: B-plot of Blue Crush was true happiness is found through
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: corporate sponsorship.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Wait, that's not true? Because that's what I keep gunning
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: for on this show.
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: Exactly.
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: But you look at like Flashdance? No, I'm thinking of.
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: It's about welding.
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: It's about welding. But I think I was talking about.
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: I'm spacing the name of it, and it's huge, and
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: it has Patrick Swayze, and it's dancing. Dirty Dancing. There
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: we go. Dirty Dancing. So what's the B-plot of Dirty Dancing?
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Don't get knocked up. Don't get knocked up.
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: Keep abortion legal. Because otherwise, some guy with a hanger
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: in a dealy bob at Footloose. Censorship is bad. So
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: it could be.
• 50:59
  Speaker 8: It could be middle-of-the-road kind of message. It could be
• 51:02
  Speaker 8: super left-wing, which is what I guess... Who knew that
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: I was a huge radical wanting to control my own body?
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: I know. It's radical.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: What were you thinking?
• 51:10
  Speaker 8: It's a, I know let's start legislating what hand guys
• 51:13
  Speaker 8: jerk off with. And, uh, let's see how long that lasts.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Change things a little.
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: It's a, I think guys in March and, uh, anyway, so,
• 51:22
  Speaker 8: but yeah, it could be about anything.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I like, and again, that going back to just why
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I'm so drawn to film in general, because I can
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: have these, I think it's such a great window into
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: the time that it's made. And some people don't want
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: to pin it down. Like you, you, it's sort of
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: like now they don't want to put a year on things.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: They like it to have a good window to resell it. And,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: be able to buy it on DVD or Blu-ray or whatever.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: But I love going back and looking at stuff from,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: you know, as far back as, you know, 30s and
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: silent film all the way up to like.
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: Even 70s and 80s.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Like you see exactly what was going on in the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: country or world, depending on where they made the film.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: And you see it through the story. Like even if
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: it's not your A story, like you just kind of
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: see the world that it was made in at that time.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: So then for the show, I'm always like, OK, let's
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: have this discussion. And sometimes it's about the plot and
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's like, but did you see what was going on?
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Like you can get that like you can you can
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: go back to revisit history through this story. And I
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: just kind of love that that you do kind of
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: get this window into what was going on in the
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: world in 1938. And somebody who, like, if this is
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: a movie in the 60s and this guy wanted to
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: drop out and go find himself, nobody would blink an eye.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: There was tons of people doing that. In 1938, he
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: is a freak.
• 52:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a revolutionary.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: It's a huge deal. They need to lock him up.
• 52:39
  Speaker 8: That's why the dad's so freaked out about it.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: I'm afraid I'm not quite as anxious as I might
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: be for the things that most people work towards. I
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: don't want too much money. Too much money? Well, more
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: than I need to live by. You see, it's always
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: been my idea to make a few thousands early in
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: the game and then quit for as long as they
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: last and try to find out who I am and
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: what goes on and what about it. Now, well, I'm
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: young and feel good all the time. Well, I'm sure
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Julia understands what I'm getting at, don't you, Julia?
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure I do, Johnny.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: You wish to occupy yourself otherwise, is that it? Please
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: don't make me feel guilty about it, sir. Even if
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: it turns out to be one of those fool ideas
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: that people dream about and then go flat on. Even
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: if I find I've had enough of it in three months,
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: still I want it. I've got a feeling if I
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: let this chance go by, there'll never be another one
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: for me. So I don't think anyone would mind if
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: I just have a go at it. Will they, Julia?
• 53:31
  Speaker 9: Will they, dear?
• 53:33
  Speaker 8: I mean, and that's true. That's a great point because
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: that's true of like all art. Like you look at Aristophanes.
• 53:40
  Speaker 8: You look at Tom Brown's School Days, which is this
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: book written in the 1850s that That all British kids
• 53:48
  Speaker 8: had to read. And it was about the flower of
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: British manhood. And it was in the height of the
• 53:54
  Speaker 8: British Empire. You know, the British Empire was just coming
• 53:56
  Speaker 8: into its... Not the height, because that would be more
• 54:00
  Speaker 8: 20 years later. But the thing is, it was about
• 54:02
  Speaker 8: how they have this destiny. They have this God-given right
• 54:06
  Speaker 8: to show.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: To roll across the world.
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: Brown people definitely need to be told about... tea and, uh,
• 54:12
  Speaker 8: or which came from India and it wasn't theirs, but, uh, whatever.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: They took whatever they needed.
• 54:17
  Speaker 8: And then they redistributed it. So, I mean, it's, it's
• 54:21
  Speaker 8: just a glimpse into whatever, but what's weird about Tom
• 54:24
  Speaker 8: Brown school days is that in the 1950s, there was
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: a series written in the fifties and sixties and maybe
• 54:31
  Speaker 8: early seventies by George McDonald Frazier called, uh, Flashman. And
• 54:35
  Speaker 8: Flashman is about a minor character in this, you know, uh,
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: Everybody has to read To Kill a Mockingbird, right? So
• 54:43
  Speaker 8: everybody in England had to read Tom Brown's School Days
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: in junior high, in whatever, grade eight. And George MacDonald
• 54:53
  Speaker 8: Fraser is a British writer who wrote Flashman. And Harry
• 54:57
  Speaker 8: Flashman was a tiny character in Tom Brown's School Days
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: who was kicked out in the first third of the
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: book for being a bully and unsportsmanlike and so not funny.
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: The Epitome of an English Gentleman. So George MacDonald Fraser
• 55:10
  Speaker 8: in the 50s, rebelling against the empire, essentially the British empire,
• 55:16
  Speaker 8: writes this book, this series of books about Harry Flashman
• 55:19
  Speaker 8: and what a fucking dirtbag he is and how he
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: just keeps being rewarded for being a dirtbag.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: It happens quite often.
• 55:27
  Speaker 8: And I remember reading, it is so dark. And Andy,
• 55:31
  Speaker 8: my husband, gave it to me when we were dating.
• 55:33
  Speaker 8: He was like, you should read this.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: It's so dark.
• 55:35
  Speaker 8: And it was, Harry Flashman is a coward and a
• 55:39
  Speaker 8: rapist and a horrible, horrible person. And I was like,
• 55:43
  Speaker 8: why is he having me? But he always gets his comeuppance.
• 55:47
  Speaker 8: And he always, there's, by the end of the book,
• 55:51
  Speaker 8: because in the middle of the book, I was like,
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: why the fuck am I reading this? Why would he
• 55:54
  Speaker 8: give me this? Who am I dating?
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Why am I invested in this character?
• 55:57
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 55:57
  Speaker 8: And who's this guy that gave me this book? But
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: by the end of the book, I'm like, where the
• 56:01
  Speaker 8: hell's the next one? Because this is amazing. And it's
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: so incredibly well-researched historical fiction-wise that the Flashman series is...
• 56:10
  Speaker 8: The first book takes place when the British are in
• 56:12
  Speaker 8: Afghanistan in 1848. And it's a massacre. Almost every British
• 56:18
  Speaker 8: soldier is killed. And it would have been great if
• 56:21
  Speaker 8: we would have read that before we went into Afghanistan.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: But nope.
• 56:25
  Speaker 8: We don't have to read in our country. Harry Flashman lives... And, uh,
• 56:30
  Speaker 8: it goes on and he's in every single major British empire, um,
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: historical event from 1848 to 19.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: He's Forrest Gump at this point.
• 56:39
  Speaker 8: Exactly.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: He just keeps ending up in the middle of these
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: crazy adventures.
• 56:43
  Speaker 8: He's, and of course, pre Forrest Gump and, uh, one
• 56:45
  Speaker 8: gajillion times better than fucking Forrest Gump. Anyway. Is there
• 56:52
  Speaker 8: any reason for anyone not to burn every copy of
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: Forrest Gump? And, uh, i've never seen it i never
• 56:59
  Speaker 8: will see it and it's like it's like the colorization
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: of the first 10 minutes of wizard of oz as
• 57:04
  Speaker 8: far as i'm concerned that's what forrest gump would be
• 57:07
  Speaker 8: for me i have an opinion uh award winner it's
• 57:12
  Speaker 8: not who cares the academies are you kidding me rich.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: People like to give other rich people awards i mean
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: that's what they do it's.
• 57:19
  Speaker 8: Uh yeah but uh I tried to watch all the
• 57:23
  Speaker 8: Academy Awards once. I was like, because when you move
• 57:25
  Speaker 8: to Los Angeles, everyone's like, you've never seen Chinatown? And
• 57:28
  Speaker 8: I'm like, no, I don't like incest. I'm good. I
• 57:31
  Speaker 8: don't watch Game of Thrones either. Never mind. So I
• 57:37
  Speaker 8: decided to try to watch all of the AFI Top 100. See,
• 57:40
  Speaker 8: the AFI Top 100 is different than the top nominated.
• 57:45
  Speaker 8: And I did. I decided to watch them on Fast Forward.
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: I was like, and then if they were worth it,
• 57:52
  Speaker 8: I would slow it down. And the only one I
• 57:54
  Speaker 8: made it, and I'd seen a bunch of them, most
• 57:56
  Speaker 8: of the lighter ones, the ones that are scary. I
• 57:59
  Speaker 8: don't watch scary movies because success. Congratulations. You've already scared me.
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: Oh my God. I saw that. I was, and it
• 58:05
  Speaker 8: was a packed movie theater and I couldn't get out.
• 58:08
  Speaker 8: I was just literally like crawling on my seat through
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: this whole thing. And it was scary. I know that
• 58:15
  Speaker 8: they're well done. I know that it's incredibly well done.
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: And I'm sure Forrest Gump was incredibly well done, but
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: I could give a shit.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: It's Zemeckis, but it's Zemeckis, who I think is actually
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: a really good storyteller.
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: What else has he done?
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Because I know his name. Again, I love his old
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: version of himself. He's the reason we have Back to
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: the Future, and geeks have lined up for years.
• 58:33
  Speaker 8: Did he do Back to the Future?
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he directed Back to the Future, all three of them.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: He directed Who Framed Roger Rabbit. He did Romancing the Stone.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I love Who.
• 58:42
  Speaker 8: Framed Roger Rabbit. That's what I was going to say.
• 58:44
  Speaker 8: and romancing the stone yeah.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: He's a great filmmaker back then he's the like to
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: me the that's almost the turning point is for his
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: gum because he's putting in that little cg feather and
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: he went.
• 58:54
  Speaker 8: Ah cg ah.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: And everything for years after that was nothing but i
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: want people in front of a green screen i don't
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: want any humans i want to completely replace you yeah
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: like he just went on a weird tech thing where
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: he's just like i want to control everything i don't
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: want stupid actors to get in my way. He finally
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: came out of that.
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: He came back, I think.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: The Denzel Washington pilot movie.
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: Oh, Where He's Drunk?
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: Okay, I didn't see that one, but yeah.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: That's like the first one he made that was like
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: a real live action normal movie that he's made.
• 59:28
  Speaker 8: Have you ever seen He Got Game? Denzel Washington, Spike Lee? Yes,
• 59:31
  Speaker 8: a long time ago. It was an amazing movie, only
• 59:34
  Speaker 8: because I remember thinking, wow, Spike Lee made Denzel Washington unattractive.
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: That's hard to do.
• 59:39
  Speaker 8: That is a, that is, that's almost CGI. How do
• 59:42
  Speaker 8: you do that?
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 59:44
  Speaker 8: Denzel is like one of the most handsome guys.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: That's yeah.
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: That's his thing.
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: It's like, you can't, you can't make him look bad.
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: It's kind of hard.
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: And, and then, uh, though I did not see the
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: preacher's wife because I love the bishop's wife and Cary
• 59:57
  Speaker 8: Grant and sons of bitches. I can't remember her name. Uh,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: who was in the preacher, the bishop's wife. Uh, she
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 8: was an amazing actress and, uh, Guess who she isn't?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 8: Whitney Houston cannot replace her at all, ever.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: She's not that good of an actress?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 8: Well, it was.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: She fooled all of us that she was not on
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: the crack.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 9: Crack is whack.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 8: Crack is whack.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: Can't argue with that.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 8: Now it's hard to... Yeah, yeah. It's... Cary Grant to
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 8: save the day. Come on, Cary Grant. Because I love
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 8: most Cary Grant.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: Movies. Stop it.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: I'll start jittering.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: He's one of the... Again, I feel like this is
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: a different little window into him for me because I
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: feel like he is one of those that I don't
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: feel like stretches a whole lot, at least in that era. Again,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched a ton of his later stuff.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Loretta Young. But yeah, you're right because it was.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 8: In his early stuff, he did get to mix it up,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 8: and then they set him up, which is supposedly why
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 8: he quit acting. He quit acting when that last movie
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 8: he did where I think Audrey Hepburn was in it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Or somebody super young, and he was probably 48.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And she was 22.
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  Speaker 1: Standard Hollywood scenario.
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  Speaker 8: And he said, oh, I don't want to be any
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: part of this. He said, in real life, I'll screw
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: everybody over the age of 18, men or women, but
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 8: I don't want any part of.
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  Speaker 1: That's weird that, yeah. He was like, I don't want
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: to perpetuate it. On screen, he wants it different.
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  Speaker 8: Well, it's very... And this is not... I almost compared
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 8: him to Bill Cosby. That is not.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not go down that road.
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  Speaker 8: It's because Bill Cosby's public persona was so squeaky clean
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 8: it's not like I don't I Cary Grant to my
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 8: knowledge um was was not a horrible person to my
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: knowledge he was a perfectly nice man.
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  Speaker 7: From the far as yeah far as I've heard from.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 8: All accounts And it would have come out at this point. Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Everybody's stuff finally surfaced.
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  Speaker 8: If somebody found a Martin Luther King having an affair,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: they would have found Cary Grant having an affair.
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  Speaker 7: We'll dig up whatever dirt we have to.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 8: When you look at people's political errors in the background or... Well,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 8: not political, but like... a political person i guess is
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 8: um when when you look at people's i could never
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 8: go into politics i used to think about how great
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 8: a sitcom where a comic was president and every single
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 8: episode there would be like a scandal like a scandal
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: liaison who would come in and go hey uh bad
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: news and uh they found out about that thing and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 8: every episode the president would go ecstasy in alaska And
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 8: they go, no, not that one yet.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Have you pitched this idea?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: I have not.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: It is better than half of what's on there.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 8: It would be a very funny, I think, sitcom idea.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: In the world of Veep, I think you can make
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: this fly.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. Because it could be, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 8: The only television I watch is very disappointing to everyone
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 8: who wants me to watch everything. So all I watch
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 8: is Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and The Expanse. But are you
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 8: excited about the new Gilmore Girls? I am excited. Because
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 8: I love the old Gilmore Girls, but I didn't watch
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: the last season because they jumped over the broomstick. They
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 8: jumped over the shark.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Well, they pissed off the writer-producer combo there.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: Amy, what's her face?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 7: Palladino? Yeah, her and her husband walked off. They were like, no.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 8: But she's back for this reboot, so I'm kind of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 8: excited about that.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: That's promising, I think.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: One episode.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: But even then, like... But that's fine.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, to me, that means she's a good sport
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: and she knows where she came from. Like, she's not like,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: screw you guys, I'm making multi-millions of dollars now.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: She knows, she's like, this is where I got my start. Like,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: I owe you guys something.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 8: I think she shows up at that theater group, the Groundlings,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 8: that she started at. I think she shows up occasionally
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 8: just to go.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 10: What are you guys doing?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: Nothing but cool.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, she seems like nothing but like a decent person.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is unusual to have broken through the way
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: she did.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 8: It's awesome. Gives us all hope.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 8: So... Yeah, but... So did you like it? Did you
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 8: like Holiday?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Again, I think I sort of go in as a
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: lot of the older ones that I know of, but
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: I haven't sat down and watched. I usually have some
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: sort of preconceived notion, and I didn't at all expect
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: it to be what it was, and I didn't expect
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: the performance. Actually, out of both of them, because Cary
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Grant's always in his specific mode, and this is very
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: different for Katherine.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 10: Hepburn, too.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Because she's uncertain.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 8: She never plays a character who's as uncertain as this.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: And kind of, not on top of what's going on.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: She's almost clueless for two thirds of this. Like she's
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: going right along with her family. Like she, she assumes
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: she's happy. She assumed, and it's only this new character
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: comes in that like kind of makes her look at
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: the world from a different perspective. And she's like, Oh,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Oh no, what I'm doing is really wrong for me.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 8: You know, it's like, this is actually not working.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: And it took like that to do it. But again,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: she's not normally that character. She would have almost been
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: more of the younger sister. She would have been the
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: one setting her ways. into the society lifestyle, find herself,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever she needs to get ahead. Like, again,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: they even say, what was I wrote it down? It
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: was like, um, there's no such thrill in the world
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: as making money. And I'm like, that's a very specific
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: statement to work into this movie and to have be
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the center of this family. Like, so watching, yeah, I
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: feel like I, I, I think it would have been
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: cast differently. Maybe in a few years later, I think
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: even though that's the younger sister, I feel like she
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: would have been cast as the younger sister, uh, And
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: the one set in the ways and would have been
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: trying to bring him along with the family way.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: So it was really kind of interesting to see.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Her become more of the free spirit by the end
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: of it and be like, everything you're doing is wrong.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: I want to kind of go out into the world
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: and see things and just not be a slave to
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: this life that the riches have bought us.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. I could take my giant bag of money
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 8: that grandfather left me and go do and genuinely find
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 8: what makes me.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Happy, which is.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 8: There's a weird note to that only because I, like,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: I don't come from a wealthy background. Most people do not.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 8: I am the youngest of six. And so there's, my
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 8: father would have had to have been Mel Gibson for
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: us to have been any sort of wealth. But the.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 7: Let's hope that.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, not at all.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Let's not go down that road either.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 8: Exactly. And so, but the, the. The people that I've
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 8: met who came from money, because there's this whole thing
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 8: in America where your grandfather or he makes good money.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 8: The second generation, like the father in this case, solidifies
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: that money. And then the third generation, they usually do
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 8: weed off. They usually do have some sort of problems.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 7: The second ones are just frustrated because they probably didn't
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: want to go into that, but they were forced to.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 7: And then they conformed and they build a really strong family.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: So they have problems too.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: Some of them are into it and some of them
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 8: are not. And, and I know there's a, there's a movie,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: I think it's pillow talk and, uh, Tony Randall, uh,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 8: and Carrie and Rock Hudson. There you go. Our friends. And, uh,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 8: and Rock Hudson is a very successful, um, Broadway, uh,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 8: music writer, composer. And, um, Tony Randall is a producer
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 8: of Broadway musicals. And at one point, Tony Randall says
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 8: to Rock Hudson, you know, I started out with a
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 8: million dollars in college and I, I still, I still
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 8: have a million dollars. I just can't seem to get ahead.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 8: And you came from nothing and look how far you've come.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 8: And it's just, there's a certain amount of apathy or
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 8: lethargy that can hit a generation like second or third
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 8: generation of money. And in Los Angeles, uh, you meet
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 8: comics and people who they don't know what they do,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 8: but they come for money. Like, there's a guy I know,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 8: and he's a good guy, but his grandfather was a pharmaceutical,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: probably doctor. nightmare of a disaster of a human being
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 8: who made a shitload of money there's so.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Much money still being made in that field let alone
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: if you were like the early one.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 8: Early adopter of let's get americans addicted to every pill
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 8: in america and so the i saw i saw serenity
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 8: i know what's gonna happen reavers you guys so uh
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 8: the the um the But this guy, he just, he
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 8: drifts because he doesn't have any money. And there's a,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 8: I've seen, there's a couple of them who are like, well,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 8: I guess I'll do standup. You know, Michael Douglas's brother,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 8: Eric Douglas, he did standup and ended up, ended up ODing.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 8: And cause you just, you get up, suck, you get
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 8: sucked into this world where there's too much money and
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 8: not enough purpose and you can't find, I mean, I
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: feel very lucky that at 19, I knew that I
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 8: wanted to do standup. And so I would have any
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: shitty job that I needed to have to continue to
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 8: do standup until, I decided to take the leap and
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: quit my day job, which I didn't. I quit my
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: day job in 2003 when I got my half hour
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 8: special from Comedy Central, which means that I had been.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: Doing a lot of years of working a real job.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 8: It means that I had a day job for, you know,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 8: good almost 20 years. And so I don't recommend I mean,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: if you cause I have a thing where I need
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 8: a regular income. If it's 300 bucks a week, that's,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 8: it's something, it's a real job. It's a system. Genuine
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 8: amount of money. And I'm willing to live with two
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 8: or three people stack like cordwood just so I can
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 8: do standup comedy and work for a living. And so,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 8: Get a job, you guys.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 8: Gramication, just talked. But that's one of the things I
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 8: love about the movie is it's tiny, sort of subtle
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 8: exploration of money in the background of something that is
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 8: clearly just super sweet. Cary Grant, Catherine Hepburn, kiss, kiss, kiss.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 8: Which is from 30 Rock.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 7: But again, even then it doesn't do that. Like, we
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 7: never really get to that point.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Even by the end of the movie when you see
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: they sort of like each other. And even then I'm like,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: If I'm looking forward, I'm like, is this a real
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: relationship or is it just we represent something specifically from
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: her point of view?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: Oh, that's interesting.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: So like for the Hollywood ending, it's, hey, I want
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: to come with you on this trip. Six months, 12
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: months down the line, is she like, we're really different people.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I like that I've broken out of my little world
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: and you were nice to go on that trip with, but.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 7: We're really different.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 8: Wow, you're still thinking.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Rock Hudson looks pretty good. I'm going to go to
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: this movie over here. I think I've got a future
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: with Rock Hudson. Nothing could go wrong there. I'm going
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: with Rock Hudson.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 8: Okay, so the other Cary Grant, Katherine Hepburn reason when
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 8: I was a kid that I got mixed up is
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 8: because Cary Grant did a movie called My Favorite Wife. Oh, shit,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 8: I'm getting them mixed up with a third person, James Garner.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: See, they're all interchangeable.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 8: When I was a kid, and James Garner, of course,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 8: enormously different than those two gentlemen.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys wouldn't live on a beach.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 8: 10 or 12 years, right, and be a PI. 10
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: or 12 years younger than both of those guys. But
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: James Garner did a remake of My Favorite Wife with
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 8: Doris Day.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: And he always had that kind of vibe to him.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Even in the 70s, he felt like a little established.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: behind like he felt.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: Like he was old school Hollywood Hollywood star he had
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: that star thing he still kind of had that maverick
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 8: I mean he was the guy was amazing quite honestly
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 8: he was one of my favorite I mean he was
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 8: he's just charming he was the Dennis Quaid of his
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 8: but could.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Kind of make that work on a way that like
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: even like Again, Dennis Quaid, I feel like, would hit
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: a specific wall.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: He's charming in a specific role. I feel like Garner
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: could kind of make anything. He never hit that wall.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 8: He never hit that wall.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he could make anything kind of work.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 8: One of the last very weird movies that he did
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: was a movie with Eddie Murphy? Eddie Murphy, where he played,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 8: I believe James Garner was only in the first third
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 8: of the movie, because he was about 70 at this time.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 8: And it was about a guy, a senator in Florida.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 8: Who dies. And James Garner played the senator. And then
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 8: Eddie Murphy is a guy who's like a city councilman
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 8: with the same name. And it's a movie about name recognition.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: And so he gets elected.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: That was pretty impressive.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the way that they used that.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 8: And so he gets elected as a U.S. senator because
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 8: he has the same name as the James Garner character.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 8: And James Garner was a very conservative white guy. And
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 8: Eddie Murphy was Eddie Murphy.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: They just slapped the name really big and there was
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: no photo and all these old white people are like, yeah,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: I remember that name.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 8: That's the dude I'm voting for. And then, but the
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: weirdest thing, I mean, that movie was terrible.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: The Distinguished Gentleman?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 8: That's it.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, I know it's in there somewhere. I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: know I have to dig for it, but it's all
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: still in there.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: But that was the first time I learned, because the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: shittier the movie sometimes, the more the more weird kind
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: of B-plot, the more information you get. And The Distinguished Gentleman,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 8: what I learned in that movie, was that they put
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 8: slums next to power towers, and the kids are all
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 8: born slightly retarded. And it's not cool. It's not okay, folks. Hey,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: let's stop doing that.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Again, that sounds like our society. It's all about money.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 8: But it was a political awareness that I, and I
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 8: was like, look at this shitty movie teaching me something.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 8: Because it was not a good movie. It's the Erin
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 8: Brockovich of its day. The Erin Brockovich of shitty movies.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 8: But yeah, but it was fascinating. Movies are fascinating. Good
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 8: work having a podcast about movies.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: There's a lot to find. That's what I always say.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: I use movies as a way to figure out life.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: It hadn't happened yet, but I'm working on it. I
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: feel you examine different things, and it's stuff that you
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: probably wouldn't do, but because the movie, because the plot
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: is sort of presented to you, you go, oh, that's
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: the way to go. But yeah, so that's what I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: always take from it, is there's just good stuff to
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: take from all movies, even the shitty ones.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 6: Right, right.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: That's the moral of the story. Well, thank you for
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 7: joining us. I guess tell people where to find you.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 8: Well, my name is Jackie Cation and I do stand-up comedy.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 8: And so you can go to JackieCation.com. You can also
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 8: go to FamilyPetAncestry.com, which points to JackieCation.com because I found
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 8: Family Pet Ancestry to be hilarious. So I bought that
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 8: URL and I pointed it at mine because if someone's
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 8: looking to find out if their cat came over on
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 8: the Mayflower... They're going to find my stand-up comedy. When
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 8: will they ever know about that? When will they know?
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  Speaker 8: When will they know if their dog is eligible to
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  Speaker 8: join the DAR, the Dogs of the American Revolution? Anyway,
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  Speaker 8: so you can go to JackieCation.com. I also have a
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  Speaker 8: podcast called The Dork Forest. There are 600, 700 episodes.
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  Speaker 8: It's at DorkForest.com, TheDorkForest.com. And it's on iTunes, of course.
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  Speaker 8: And then I have a new podcast at Nerdist where
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  Speaker 8: I just talk about stand-up with another woman comic, uh
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  Speaker 8: who we talk about every every people ask this very
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  Speaker 8: dumb question only dumb because it's been asked a gajillion
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  Speaker 8: times what's it like being a woman comic.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to decide which one you were going
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  Speaker 1: with the bad general comedy question or the one that
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  Speaker 1: you're forced with which is the woman.
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  Speaker 8: Comedy question and so about six months ago i've never.
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  Speaker 1: Asked that thankfully all the female comics I've talked to.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I don't want to, don't want
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  Speaker 1: to go down that road.
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  Speaker 8: Laurie Kilmartin was like, do you want to answer that
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  Speaker 8: fucking question every single week, uh, on this podcast? And
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  Speaker 8: I said, well, that sounds hilarious. And so, because I've
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  Speaker 8: been doing standup comedy for so long and I've spent
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  Speaker 8: my entire comedy career pretending I wasn't a woman comic,
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  Speaker 8: that I was just a comic. And, um, it's kind of,
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  Speaker 8: we're in a brave new world of standup comedy where
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  Speaker 8: women comics get to be women as well as comics.
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  Speaker 8: And so I learned so much from like the 25,
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  Speaker 8: 35 year old women comics that are doing standup who
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  Speaker 8: get to talk about, and if a guy gives them
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  Speaker 8: shit about it, they're just like, What? You're still talking
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  Speaker 8: about your balls, right? So I still get to talk
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  Speaker 8: about my ovaries or any, I could talk about my
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  Speaker 8: left tit. It's going to be amazing.
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  Speaker 1: There's an audience there to support them because it used
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  Speaker 1: to be, like now I feel like there's just as many,
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  Speaker 1: you know, female fans out there hitting standup shows, like supporting.
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  Speaker 1: And there always have.
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  Speaker 8: But the thing is, is there were only, there was,
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  Speaker 8: I was the only woman comic in the room and
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  Speaker 8: now there's two or three. So if a guy says
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  Speaker 8: something weird and horrible, like, hey, we're going out to breakfast.
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  Speaker 8: You can come and sit on my face. You don't
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  Speaker 8: have to just go, Can we just go to breakfast?
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  Speaker 8: Now you can look at another woman comic in the
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  Speaker 8: room and go, fuck wit, just said something out loud.
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  Speaker 8: And you have someone to bond with. Before it was
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 8: just me in the room having to have to just go.
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  Speaker 8: That was hilarious. In other news, where are we going? Denny's?
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  Speaker 8: Can we just go to Denny's?
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  Speaker 1: That was the only difference. You're still doing your job
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  Speaker 1: the way that you do your job.
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  Speaker 6: I've always, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You're always in a room with a bunch of guys
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  Speaker 1: back in the day.
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  Speaker 8: Back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's not the case.
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  Speaker 8: Now there's another woman there that you could actually look
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  Speaker 8: at and go, oh, hey, dumb thing, right?
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  Speaker 10: That was dumb.
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  Speaker 8: That was not.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's an idiot, right?
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  Speaker 8: I'm not crazy, right? That was weird.
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  Speaker 4: Yes!
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  Speaker 8: Hooray! So that's how great comedy is now. It's always
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 8: been great. It's even greater today.
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  Speaker 1: It gives you more options now.
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  Speaker 8: Super fun. But thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 10: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being on. Otherwise, that about does it.
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  Speaker 1: We will return next time. Same Geek Feed.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 6: We'll be right back. I've been to dream and differ
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  Speaker 6: from all of us. This is the dawning of the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 6: rest of our lives.
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  Speaker 1: On holidays.
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  Speaker 13: To find the money's on the other side.
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  Speaker 6: Can I get another AMA?
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  Speaker 12: There's a flag wrapped around a score of men Can.
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  Speaker 6: I get a plastic bag on a monument? I beg
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  Speaker 6: to dream and differ from the hollow eyes It says
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  Speaker 6: the dawn On.
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  Speaker 10: Holiday Hey.
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  Speaker 6: We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 12: I beg to dream and differ from the hollowed eyes
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  Speaker 12: This is the darling of the rest of our lives
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 12: I beg to dream and differ from the hollowed.
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  Speaker 6: Eyes This is.
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  Speaker 12: The coming of the last of our lives This is.
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  Speaker 8: Our lives on holiday Okay I'm going to stop trying
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 8: to cheer you up now. Because it's clearly not working.
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  Speaker 8: I apologize.
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  Speaker 7: I'm a realist. I do what I can.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know if that's realism, but you do whatever
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  Speaker 8: you want to do. We do die.
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  Speaker 1: You can't fight it. There you go.
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  Speaker 7: See, work on that. That's what we need. A steampunk
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 7: machine that keeps you from dying. Or some sort of cyborg.
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  Speaker 6: Or a Dracula.
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  Speaker 9: You got that going, too.
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  Speaker 5: In appreciation of.
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  Speaker 3: Your very great success in the field of love and finance,
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  Speaker 3: I wish to congratulate you, sir, on behalf of the
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  Speaker 3: members of the Fifth Avenue Anti-Stuff Shirt and Flying Trapeze Club.
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  Speaker 6: Talk hard!