Latest / Play Therapy Parenting: Real Parenting Questions Answered by a Child Therapist / S3E17 - Why Your Child Fights for Control — and How to Respond
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- 0:02You're listening to the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast
- 0:06with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
- 0:09Hi,
- 0:10I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,
- 0:11The Kid Counselor.
- 0:12This is the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast where I give you insight,
- 0:15awareness,
- 0:15and enlightenment about your parenting
- 0:17and your relationship with your kids.
- 0:19In today's episode,
- 0:20I'm answering a question from Melanie,
- 0:23and this is about her nephew.
- 0:26Which is an interesting dynamic because obviously family
- 0:29members that are not our own children,
- 0:31we don't have as much influence.
- 0:34But we still want to help and support and love
- 0:38those in our family.
- 0:39So,
- 0:40thank you,
- 0:40Melanie,
- 0:40for the email.
- 0:41I appreciate it.
- 0:42Let me read parts of it and then we'll dive in.
- 0:44I'm seeking some guidance around my nephew.
- 0:46I know I don't have much influence since I don't see him often,
- 0:49but I would like to better show up for him when he's with me.
- 0:51He's currently 2 1/2 and overall very sweet and caring.
- 0:54There are some behaviors that become frustrating.
- 0:57He's a picky eater.
- 0:58He prefers plain noodles and pasta.
- 1:00Whenever we,
- 1:02his parents and I,
- 1:03try to introduce new foods to him,
- 1:04he freaks out.
- 1:05He starts bawling,
- 1:06saying things like,
- 1:07No meat,
- 1:08no sauce,
- 1:08until we give in because we want him to eat.
- 1:11I've tried to have him just smell the new food,
- 1:13but aren't sure what else or how to introduce new foods
- 1:16without the tears and the fighting.
- 1:18He's also very adamant on saying no to things,
- 1:20activities,
- 1:21foods,
- 1:21behaviors,
- 1:22etc.
- 1:22that he doesn't want to do,
- 1:24and then will throw a tantrum.
- 1:25I try to let him play out the tantrum and limit set,
- 1:28but I feel like I can do better.
- 1:30We don't tolerate certain behaviors,
- 1:31and we remind him
- 1:33he just gets upset or continues doing the unwanted behaviors.
- 1:36Also,
- 1:37he's been saying go away when overwhelmed,
- 1:39and when I walk away because I need a moment,
- 1:41he freaks out.
- 1:43So with all that said,
- 1:44how can I better show up?
- 1:45I know I need to be firm and consistent,
- 1:47but it can be hard when I'm overwhelmed.
- 1:49Please let me know your thoughts.
- 1:51All right,
- 1:51Melanie,
- 1:52thank you so much for the email and the questions.
- 1:56So one of the things that we want to do
- 1:58when we're looking at behaviors that are difficult,
- 2:01frustrating,
- 2:02overwhelming,
- 2:04consistent,
- 2:05whatever the adjective is,
- 2:06when we can see that this is a pervasive scenario,
- 2:10our goal is to
- 2:12funnel down to a root.
- 2:15And it's not always 1.
- 2:16Sometimes it's 1 or 2 or 3,
- 2:18but we can almost always look at what we perceive to be isolated behaviors.
- 2:24And if we put them in a funnel and we get down,
- 2:26OK,
- 2:27what is at the heart of this?
- 2:29Every single thing that you're describing in this email
- 2:32is rooted in power and control.
- 2:35So,
- 2:35let's kind of look at each one
- 2:37individually and you can see how these all tie together.
- 2:40So,
- 2:40picky eater,
- 2:42grab for control.
- 2:43I will only eat these things.
- 2:45I will not eat these things.
- 2:46Let's go back to
- 2:48how many things
- 2:49children have control in their lives.
- 2:52Very few.
- 2:53You can fit them on one hand.
- 2:55Eating is one of them.
- 2:57So we understand
- 2:58that he is going to grab power and control where he can.
- 3:03And one of those things is eating.
- 3:05Now,
- 3:06his refusal to eat is a power grab.
- 3:09When you try to get him to eat something else,
- 3:12he then feels powerless.
- 3:13That's basically a pendulum swing.
- 3:15So he goes from having all the power.
- 3:17I will only eat this stuff.
- 3:19You try to get him to eat something else,
- 3:21he feels powerless,
- 3:22so he's going to grab for another level of power
- 3:26in the way of tantrums.
- 3:28So he cries,
- 3:29he freaks out,
- 3:30he bawls,
- 3:30all the things that you described.
- 3:32Why?
- 3:32Because he's so overwhelmed,
- 3:34he can't handle his feelings,
- 3:36and he has to have some power and control back again.
- 3:40So he's grasping at it.
- 3:42Let's move on to
- 3:44saying no to things,
- 3:45activities,
- 3:46foods,
- 3:46and behaviors that he doesn't want to do.
- 3:48I will not do that.
- 3:49I will not do that.
- 3:50I will not do that.
- 3:52Power and control.
- 3:53And when you try to get him to do one of those things that he doesn't want to do,
- 3:58he feels out of control and powerless.
- 4:00So he's going to behave in a way that shows you,
- 4:02OK,
- 4:02I'm ramping it up because
- 4:04I need power and control.
- 4:06And what you're describing,
- 4:07Melanie,
- 4:08and this is something that
- 4:09we all
- 4:10face,
- 4:11we see this consistently.
- 4:12This is pervasive childhood behavior.
- 4:16A child becomes conditioned
- 4:18that
- 4:19if you start to make me feel
- 4:21like I have no power and control
- 4:23and I have to ramp it up
- 4:25and at any point my ramp up works.
- 4:28In other words,
- 4:29I can't just say no,
- 4:30I don't want to.
- 4:31I might have to cry.
- 4:32Well,
- 4:32if you don't make me do it when I cry.
- 4:35It reinforces the fact that when I grab at power,
- 4:38I get what I want.
- 4:40Well then,
- 4:40the next time
- 4:41I say no,
- 4:42that doesn't work,
- 4:42I cry,
- 4:43that doesn't work.
- 4:44Well,
- 4:44now I have to scream.
- 4:46But then you give in when I scream,
- 4:48so I got the power and control that I wanted.
- 4:51I'm reinforced.
- 4:52Well then,
- 4:52maybe the next time I say no,
- 4:54then I cry,
- 4:54then I scream.
- 4:55None of those work.
- 4:56Well,
- 4:56now I have to have a full blown tantrum.
- 4:59But then the tantrum did it.
- 5:00So you gave in when I had the tantrum.
- 5:02So now you can see where I'm going with this.
- 5:05They actually become conditioned
- 5:07to always ramp up and elevate
- 5:09the power grab
- 5:11because eventually they know they'll get the power that they want.
- 5:14They just have to keep pushing the envelope.
- 5:17So we understand
- 5:19that
- 5:19when he throws a tantrum
- 5:21and then
- 5:23gets what he wants,
- 5:24he doesn't have to do whatever that thing was
- 5:27that is actually reinforcing of that kind of behavior.
- 5:30So it's a vicious cycle that we get trapped in,
- 5:33and we don't even often realize how it all unfolds.
- 5:36So now let's look at when you tell him certain behaviors are not tolerated.
- 5:41You're taking back power and control,
- 5:44and he doesn't like it.
- 5:45So he
- 5:47gets upset or he just keeps doing it.
- 5:49Power grab.
- 5:50Finally,
- 5:51when he says go away,
- 5:53he is overwhelmed.
- 5:54I agree with you.
- 5:55You said when he gets overwhelmed,
- 5:56he says go away.
- 5:58He is absolutely maxed out emotionally.
- 6:01And he's disregulated and there's all kinds of stuff going on for him,
- 6:05so he's trying to give himself space.
- 6:09He forces you to go away.
- 6:10That's a power grab.
- 6:12But then when you do it,
- 6:14he doesn't want to be alone
- 6:16because he feels powerless and out of control if he's by himself.
- 6:19So now he freaks out and wants you to come back
- 6:22because when you walk away and disengage,
- 6:25this is a very interesting dynamic.
- 6:27This is true of all of us,
- 6:29any age,
- 6:29any scenario.
- 6:31We want power and control,
- 6:33and if we fight for it.
- 6:35The word fight implies you have to have someone else
- 6:38in the fight.
- 6:39Someone walks away from someone that has a
- 6:42power need,
- 6:43someone's trying to have control and you walk away,
- 6:45you completely disengage.
- 6:47You've taken all the power and control away from them.
- 6:50You can't fight for power if no one's fighting.
- 6:53You can't fight for control if no one's fighting.
- 6:56So when you walk away,
- 6:57Melanie.
- 6:58Your nephew is like,
- 7:00whoa,
- 7:00whoa,
- 7:00whoa,
- 7:00whoa,
- 7:00wait,
- 7:01now I have no one to,
- 7:01no,
- 7:02I have,
- 7:02I can't have power and control anymore.
- 7:04Come back,
- 7:04come back,
- 7:05come back.
- 7:06So that panic
- 7:07is actually to have more power and control,
- 7:10and ordering you to come back is a power and control grab.
- 7:14So hopefully,
- 7:15this is illustrating what we see in kids all the time.
- 7:19We often will look at things as isolated and separate entities,
- 7:23and they all really come down to one main thing.
- 7:26This is all power and control for him.
- 7:28So how do you deal with that?
- 7:29Well,
- 7:30you do set limits when needed,
- 7:32and you enforce them and you're consistent.
- 7:35You do not set limits
- 7:37in a charged way,
- 7:39in an emotional way.
- 7:40In
- 7:42An angry way
- 7:44It is calm.
- 7:45It is stable.
- 7:47It is rational.
- 7:49You really want to hit,
- 7:50but people are never for hitting.
- 7:52You can choose to hit the pillow or you can choose to hit the couch.
- 7:55Which do you choose?
- 7:58It's said with that calm,
- 7:59neutral tone,
- 8:00because this is how it often goes.
- 8:03You are hitting me,
- 8:04but that is not OK,
- 8:05but.
- 8:06Now all of a sudden we're escalating the power and control grab.
- 8:10So our neutrality highly matters in cases like this.
- 8:14Our calm centeredness highly matters
- 8:17in situations like this.
- 8:19And beyond that,
- 8:21we have to provide kids with choices.
- 8:24Because
- 8:24if they're power hungry,
- 8:26if they want control,
- 8:27they feel that
- 8:29everything is out of their control and they have no power.
- 8:31Well,
- 8:32the antidote to that is giving them more control and power.
- 8:35So you're going to give empowerment choices,
- 8:38and it's not the same if you say,
- 8:40Do you want this or do you want this?
- 8:41You can have this or you can have this.
- 8:44Those are not choices.
- 8:46So we're very clear,
- 8:48nephew,
- 8:49you can choose to play with your trucks or you can choose to play with your.
- 8:55Trains,
- 8:55which do you choose?
- 8:57Empowerment choice.
- 8:58You can choose to wear your.
- 9:00Flip flops or you can choose to wear your tennis shoes.
- 9:03Which do you choose?
- 9:04Empowerment choice.
- 9:05You can choose to wear the red shirt or you can choose to wear the blue shirt.
- 9:07Which do you choose?
- 9:08Empowerment choice.
- 9:09If all day,
- 9:10every day
- 9:11he is given opportunities to have control.
- 9:15He will not need to fight for control so much
- 9:19in other situations.
- 9:20Another component we give choices as much as possible.
- 9:24Another aspect of this
- 9:25is we reflect his feelings.
- 9:27He has to feel heard and validated and understood,
- 9:31even when he's scared,
- 9:32even when he's overwhelmed,
- 9:33even when he's mad,
- 9:34even when he's tantruming,
- 9:35even when the worst of the worst is taking place.
- 9:39He has to feel heard and understood.
- 9:41He is not wrong for behaving those ways.
- 9:43He is not wrong for feeling those things.
- 9:46He's stuck in maladaptive coping patterns.
- 9:49So before we set the limit,
- 9:50we have to acknowledge
- 9:53you're really upset.
- 9:54You really don't want to eat that.
- 9:56You really don't want to do that.
- 9:58You're really worried about that.
- 10:01He has to feel validated.
- 10:02If he feels dismissed,
- 10:04he's going to grab for more power and control.
- 10:07So these all work together.
- 10:09And if you remain consistent,
- 10:12if you remain patient,
- 10:13if you remain calm and neutral.
- 10:16And you give choices,
- 10:18set limits when needed,
- 10:19but we always reflect feelings.
- 10:21It will naturally sort itself out.
- 10:24And keep in mind,
- 10:24be a thermostat,
- 10:25not a thermometer.
- 10:27If he starts to ramp up,
- 10:28and so do all the adults in his life,
- 10:30if everyone else escalates with him,
- 10:33it's a slippery slope.
- 10:35You are there to
- 10:38stay calm,
- 10:39bring it down,
- 10:40stay regulated,
- 10:41demonstrate control.
- 10:44Because
- 10:45if he starts to get loud and you get loud or his parents get loud,
- 10:49if he starts to get emotional and everyone else gets emotional,
- 10:52it will just exacerbate everything.
- 10:54So it's very much about regulation
- 10:57as well.
- 10:58So,
- 10:58Melanie,
- 10:59thank you so much for the email.
- 11:00I hope that that is helpful to each of you.
- 11:02We,
- 11:02we all struggle with
- 11:04patterns of behaviors that sometimes we miss.
- 11:06And so it's helpful to kind of look at how they all connect together.
- 11:10Please reach out if you'd like to,
- 11:11brenna@thekidcounselor.com.
- 11:12I hope you have a great week.
- 11:13Love you.
- 11:14Talk again soon.
- 11:15Bye.
- 11:15Thank you for listening to
- 11:17the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
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