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"OVERBOARD" LYNETTE HOOKER LAND-SEARCH, HUBBY LAWYERS UP · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Overboard.
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  Speaker 2: Missing mom Lynette Hooker's search has expanded, no longer in
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  Speaker 2: the water, only now expanding to a land search, torpedoing
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  Speaker 2: the story her husband gave when she went missing, claiming
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  Speaker 2: she bounced off the dinghy. This as the husband seemingly
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  Speaker 2: leaves his bedside vigil with his mother and returns to
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  Speaker 2: Michigan and immediately Lawyer's up.
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  Speaker 1: Good evening. I mean, see, Grace, this is crime stories.
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  Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: Brian texting me saying call me at eight thirty at night,
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  Speaker 3: and Brian just said, Hey, your mom's all overboard. I
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  Speaker 3: threw her a life preserver, but I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: she got it. She's been missing since last night around
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  Speaker 3: seven thirty. Something is off, something is sketchy from that
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  Speaker 3: phone cop.
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  Speaker 4: I think an interesting development has taken place today. There's
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  Speaker 4: been some reports from the ground in that elbow k
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  Speaker 4: that the searchers, both from the Royal Bahamian Police Force
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  Speaker 4: as well as the US Coast Guard, did not believe
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  Speaker 4: that Lynette is in the Sea of Abaco, that the
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  Speaker 4: depth there is too shallow, and that they believe their
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  Speaker 4: search is being conducted extensively on land.
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  Speaker 2: From our friends at True Crime and Justice on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: But let's hear us straight from the horse's mouth. Joining
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  Speaker 2: us our friend Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USP, a nation
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  Speaker 2: wide security leading a team of investigators around the world,
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  Speaker 2: including the Bahamas, finding and extracting missing people. He's a
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  Speaker 2: former Marine Iraqi war Vet. Brian, Thank you for being
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  Speaker 2: with us. This is a torpedo to the husband's story
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  Speaker 2: that Lynette Hooker bounced off a dinghy, bounced off a
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  Speaker 2: dinghy like she's a volleyball.
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  Speaker 1: He says he didn't know if the life preserver went
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  Speaker 1: and is she got it or not? Why not?
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  Speaker 2: He's looking right at her. The life preserver was one
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  Speaker 2: of those right there.
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  Speaker 1: Can we go back to that picture?
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  Speaker 2: According to Carly, the daughter, what she tells me, it
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  Speaker 2: was not a life preserver at all. It was a
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  Speaker 2: seat cushion that can't hold anybody up. That said, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to circle back to the life preserver slash seat cushion.
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  Speaker 2: The torpedo to the husband's story is that the search
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  Speaker 2: has now moved to the land. Obviously, authorities do not
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  Speaker 2: believe Lynette is in the water. Was she ever? Why
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  Speaker 2: are they on the land? Did she wash up on
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  Speaker 2: the land. Explain what's happening.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's not the only torpedo to
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  Speaker 4: Brian Hooker's story, that's for sure. So this search being
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  Speaker 4: conducted on land, you know, Number one, this would be
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  Speaker 4: routinely done anyways, right, So first and foremost that would happen.
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  Speaker 4: But these sources are claiming that both US Coast Guard
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  Speaker 4: and Royal Bahamian Police are indicating that it's very unlikely
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  Speaker 4: that Lynette Hooker is in the Sea of Abaco in
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  Speaker 4: that location that Brian Hooker said she would have fallen
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  Speaker 4: overboard for a number of reasons. Right, this is at
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  Speaker 4: its maximum depth about fifteen feet. The water's crystal clear.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty quickly aerial searches were conducted, and you now have
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  Speaker 4: new information about the locations he's talked about, that drift
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  Speaker 4: of this seat cushion winding up all the way four
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  Speaker 4: miles across in Marsh Harbor. There are torpedoes coming to
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  Speaker 4: his story over and over.
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  Speaker 1: Again, torpedoes to his story.
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  Speaker 2: Randy Kussler, joining US veteran trial lawyer out of Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: Emory Law School, professor and former chair of the ABA
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  Speaker 2: American Bar Association Family Law Section for the whole country.
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  Speaker 2: Author of Divorce, Protect Yourself, your kids, in your future,
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  Speaker 2: Randy Casseler, Maybe I'm not stressing it enough.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see the problem?
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  Speaker 2: The search has moved from water to land, and sources
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  Speaker 2: there are stating, and I've dived there in the Bahamas
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  Speaker 2: crystal clear where they're talking about. You can see the bottom.
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  Speaker 2: They've done aerial searches, They've done dive searches. They're saying,
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  Speaker 2: according to sources, that she wasn't in the water. They've
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  Speaker 2: moved to the land. Don't you see the problem with that?
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  Speaker 5: I absolutely see the problem. And you know what, it's
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  Speaker 5: a problem for the prosecutors, for people that prosecute, for
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  Speaker 5: people like Nancy Grace who are pinning it on this
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  Speaker 5: guy who is presumed innocent. They have not found the body,
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  Speaker 5: and it's going to be harder to find the body
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  Speaker 5: because they didn't find it in the shallow water from
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  Speaker 5: aerial searches. And like your previous guests just said, they
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  Speaker 5: would do this anyway. If you don't find the body
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  Speaker 5: in the water, you know, things move in the water.
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  Speaker 5: If the body's in the water, it could it could
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  Speaker 5: be anywhere in the Atlantic Ocean. By now, but on
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  Speaker 5: land if it washed the life.
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  Speaker 6: Oh whoa whoa whoa wait, whoa whoa whoa wait wait wait, Kessler,
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  Speaker 6: the only reason for any delay was because the husband,
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  Speaker 6: Brian Hooker delayed.
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  Speaker 2: He sat on the phone talking to his friends for
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  Speaker 2: three straight days without putting a toe in the water
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  Speaker 2: to find his wife. There's the delay. And let me stress,
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  Speaker 2: Brian Hooker is innocent as we go to air tonight.
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  Speaker 2: He remains innocent until proven guilty by a jury of
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  Speaker 2: his peers. But very often Randy Kessler doesn't give you
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  Speaker 2: the rest of that sentence presumed innocent unless and until
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  Speaker 2: the state pierces that presumption with evidence proving guilt.
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  Speaker 1: That's the rest of that sentence.
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  Speaker 2: He very conveniently leaves off when he talks about the
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  Speaker 2: presumption of innocence. So, Kessler, you're saying, it's not his problem,
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  Speaker 2: it's the prosecution's problem.
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  Speaker 1: That searchers are now on land.
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  Speaker 5: And what Nancy Grace has conveniently just left off is yes,
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  Speaker 5: until they pierced that and prove him guilty beyond a
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  Speaker 5: reasonable doubt. And I think we're getting to the tipping point.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe the circumstantial evidents. Maybe you said that I don't
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  Speaker 5: think you said beyond it and leave it out. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad we're in a great I'll.
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  Speaker 1: Do apply that that said, continue forward.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it's looking like he's got more of an up
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  Speaker 5: a battle. It looks more and more like maybe he
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  Speaker 5: did some things wrong in that may point two civil liability,
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  Speaker 5: but proving someone guilty and murdered beyond a reasonable doubt
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  Speaker 5: when you don't even have a body to show the
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  Speaker 5: cause of death. You don't have a forensic you know, accounting,
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  Speaker 5: or a corner or anybody telling you this is what
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  Speaker 5: happened to the person and how they died. You need
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  Speaker 5: a lot more than that to get somebody a guilt verdict.
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  Speaker 5: Does he look bad? Does it look bad? Sure, but
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  Speaker 5: he was the only one there. Of course, he's the
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  Speaker 5: only suspect right now. Accident. It's not a question did
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  Speaker 5: somebody else do it? Which is all from the case.
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  Speaker 5: This is wasn't an accident or was it murder? And
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  Speaker 5: right now, if we can't prove murder, it's an accident.
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  Speaker 5: He's not guilty, and he's not guilty yet.
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  Speaker 2: Most importantly, well, Randy Cassel, you're right. If the state
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  Speaker 2: can't prove it then it means nothing. Guys, I want
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  Speaker 2: you to hear what we have obtained from our friends
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  Speaker 2: at TMZ. This is Brian Hooker speaking to another boater.
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  Speaker 7: Which was rightly boss the dad over the side.
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  Speaker 8: I paddled over to marsh Island and I landed an
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  Speaker 8: i'm so crazy shore there and we could get yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: Are partly crady dig too? You guys got to be
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  Speaker 7: around at all?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I won't be around. If you need anything, I.
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  Speaker 8: Might I've got to ask the guys, but I might
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  Speaker 8: need wants person to help me in Sunday, Angrier, I've
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  Speaker 8: ever done it by himself.
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  Speaker 7: I don't have any talking me.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, well, so sorry, I got.
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  Speaker 7: To get out and I can't leave here without without.
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  Speaker 9: It putting water on your beat, gotcha? Yeah? Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 2: From our friends at TMZ joining us an all star panel,
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  Speaker 2: it makes sense of what we're learning.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Castler back to you again. Did you not.
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  Speaker 2: Notice how casual he is when we lost Lynnette over
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  Speaker 2: the side. I paddled over to marsh Island, I landed
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  Speaker 2: on some crazy shore and we couldn't get it yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: What he seems so calm? He's not even upset.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he's been in dramatic situations. He's been traveling
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  Speaker 5: the world by boat. And yes, he does sound calm
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  Speaker 5: because he's not focused on that. He's trying to focus
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  Speaker 5: on fixing the boat, making sure he can get out
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  Speaker 5: of the dock. That was the moment to do that.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you tape him where, you're film him for
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  Speaker 5: twenty four hours in a row, Guaranteed you're going to
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  Speaker 5: find a couple of minutes of lucidity, some couple of
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  Speaker 5: moments where he's actually thinking rationally about the task at hand.
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  Speaker 5: Because he talks rashly for thirty seconds on a SoundBite,
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  Speaker 5: means he's not remorseful or sorrowful or mourning the loss
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  Speaker 5: of his wife. I don't buy it. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: that's enough. Again, maybe that's the way he reacts to
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  Speaker 5: this situation. God knows how I would react to this.
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  Speaker 5: But every minute of every second of every day following it,
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  Speaker 5: you have to be in a state of mind. Maybe
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  Speaker 5: it should have come out differently, Maybe it would be
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  Speaker 5: different if it was me or somebody else. But I
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  Speaker 5: can't find him guilty just based on that. I don't
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  Speaker 5: like the way it sounds.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody asks you to Did anyone ask you to find
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  Speaker 2: him guilty?
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  Speaker 1: Did anybody pose that question to you?
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  Speaker 10: No?
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  Speaker 1: They did not. I asked you. Getty c calm.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, let's all of us, the viewer, the
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  Speaker 2: listener decide, let's hear it one more time.
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  Speaker 8: Battle help for to marsh Island and I landed a
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  Speaker 8: not so crazy shore there and we could get yesterday.
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  Speaker 9: Tay too. You guys got to be outd Yeah, I
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  Speaker 9: won't be around.
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  Speaker 8: If you need anything, I might I better ask the guys,
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  Speaker 8: but I might need one person to help me in
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  Speaker 8: Sunday anger.
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  Speaker 7: I've never got it by himself. I don't have any.
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  Speaker 9: Switches talk with me. Okay, well, so sorry, I gotta
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  Speaker 9: get out.
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  Speaker 7: And I can't leave here without without it putting water
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  Speaker 7: on your beat?
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  Speaker 9: Gotcha? Yeah? Okay? All right?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my stars? Is he anchored? Why isn't he out
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  Speaker 2: looking for his wife? Why is he anchored waiting for
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  Speaker 2: someone to bring him a dingy canceler?
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  Speaker 7: Uh? There?
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  Speaker 5: And why is he talking normally? And why is he
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  Speaker 5: talking wrestling? He acted wrestling that conversation. Why is he anchored?
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  Speaker 9: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe that's what you have to do to keep your
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  Speaker 5: boat there when you're going into town to get more
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  Speaker 5: help or to get more supplies. I don't know for
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  Speaker 5: that moment why he was anchored at that moment. If
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  Speaker 5: that doesn't mean that he didn't care about the loss
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  Speaker 5: of his wife and that he's guilty.
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  Speaker 2: Canceler, did you not hear what he said? He said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I may need him getting unanchored. He's not
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  Speaker 2: there for just that moment. He's just sitting there. He's
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  Speaker 2: not briefly anchored. He said he couldn't aint unanchored by himself.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not just for the moment he's anchored doing nothing.
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  Speaker 2: He's not looking for his wife. That was two days
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  Speaker 2: after she went overboard.
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  Speaker 5: That boat was anchored, But other boats that he's been
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  Speaker 5: out on and the dinghy wasn't anchored. Right, you didn't
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  Speaker 5: travel by boat back and forth to the shore. How
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  Speaker 5: did you get around the boat was anchored. I mean
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  Speaker 5: I thought they were anchored there for a while, right
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  Speaker 5: when they're in port, when they're living there, and then
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  Speaker 5: they're going to unchor and leave.
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  Speaker 2: You're amazing, Kessler. That's why you win so many cases.
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  Speaker 2: No matter what I throw at you, you come up with
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  Speaker 2: a new story. It's incredible, Okay, Doctor Bethany Marshall joining
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  Speaker 1: Why is he anchored? Having a pb in Jay?
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  Speaker 11: You know, Nancy, there are so many wrong things about
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  Speaker 11: this story. First of all, he's refining his story to
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  Speaker 11: the fellow voter, unaware that that voter is actually taping him.
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  Speaker 11: So one question in my mind is that his fellow
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  Speaker 11: seafarers are apparently already suspicious because they're taping these conversations.
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  Speaker 11: When he says he cannot leave without a foot of
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  Speaker 11: water underneath him, he's confessing to how shallow those waters are,
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  Speaker 11: and if his wife really bounced off the boat as
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  Speaker 11: she said, she could have easily stood up in that
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  Speaker 11: kind of water. The other thing that stands out, Nancy,
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  Speaker 11: he's feigning helplessness. Oh, I can't unanchor by myself. So
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  Speaker 11: what he's already doing is he's pretending that he can't
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  Speaker 11: possibly cope, cannot possibly unanchor without another person there, I e.
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  Speaker 11: He can't make it without his wife, which if the
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  Speaker 11: allegations are true and he did have something to do
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  Speaker 11: with her disappearance, he's doing just fine without his wife.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Nancy.
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  Speaker 11: Something else really bothers me about this story, and that
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  Speaker 11: is I hear like the Gabby Potito Brian Laundry situation,
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  Speaker 11: there was a twenty fifteen domestic in which he's drinking heavily,
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  Speaker 11: calls nine one one. The responding officers are told that
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  Speaker 11: Lynnette has hit him five to six times. They take her,
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  Speaker 11: They remove her from the situation. Even though she claims
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  Speaker 11: that he choked her and hit her in the forehead.
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  Speaker 11: She is the one who's blamed for the domestic Now
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  Speaker 11: at the end of the day, they can't prove it,
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  Speaker 11: so she is released. But this is what Brian Laundry
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  Speaker 11: did with Gabby Patito. Remember in the Van Life where
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  Speaker 11: the police pulled them over. Oh, she's hitting me, and
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  Speaker 11: the police believed it. So we have Oh and by
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  Speaker 11: the way, he was heavily drinking in that twenty fifteen incident.
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  Speaker 11: So we have sort of a behavioral trail here that
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  Speaker 11: I would want to follow to better understand what happened
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  Speaker 11: on the dinghy when she bounced.
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  Speaker 1: Off back to you. Ryan has gibbons.
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  Speaker 2: Aside from his demeanor, the fact that he has left,
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  Speaker 2: Remember he left town, He left the Bahamas to go
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  Speaker 2: because his mom, according to him, was in critical condition.
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  Speaker 2: Well he's left that bedside vigil in Sacramento and now
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  Speaker 2: he's in Michigan and immediately lawyered up. That's a whole
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  Speaker 2: other can of worms. I want to talk about this
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  Speaker 2: search expanding to the land. What more you can you
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  Speaker 2: tell me about the water search that was conducted for
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  Speaker 2: Lynnette Hooker.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so there was an extensive water search conducted between
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  Speaker 4: the Royal Bahamian Defense Force, the Hopetown Fire and Rescue,
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  Speaker 4: which is a volunteer organization with a number of vessels,
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  Speaker 4: and then an aerial search assisted by the US Coast Guard,
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  Speaker 4: which you know, they're the best in the business, best
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  Speaker 4: in the world at that. And I want to add
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  Speaker 4: one thing that really hasn't been.
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  Speaker 9: And talked about too much.
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  Speaker 4: Brian Hooker has released a number of statements, made a
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  Speaker 4: number of communications. Okay, and in not one of these
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  Speaker 4: statements does he reference attempting to make a phone call
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  Speaker 4: after Lynette went overboard. Okay, why is that important?
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  Speaker 9: You know?
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  Speaker 4: You've got reporters all over this area right now, live
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  Speaker 4: streaming from a ferry that's going across the Sea of Abaco,
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  Speaker 4: and the very spot he was in. You know, a
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  Speaker 4: rudimentary search can show that, you know there, there is
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  Speaker 4: some cell reception there, so it might be spotty at points,
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  Speaker 4: but in at least an attempt ought to have been made.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just pointing that out. At no point does he
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  Speaker 4: well as a.
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  Speaker 2: Matter of fact, Brian Fitzgibbons, you're right, and by his
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  Speaker 2: own words, I can place his phone in his hand.
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  Speaker 1: When Lynette goes overboard, listen, and the.
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  Speaker 12: Ways were doing their thing, and you know you I
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  Speaker 12: saw her, I think twice. I threw her a flotation
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  Speaker 12: cushion that we used to sit on the dinghi, you know,
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  Speaker 12: right after she went in, but I didn't I couldn't
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  Speaker 12: tell if she got she got it or not.
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  Speaker 13: We've been looking for the cushion to the search and
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  Speaker 13: rescue teams. How small the person is in two or
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  Speaker 13: three floaters and twenty five dour wins. And so after
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  Speaker 13: an hour of calling her, I could have never heard
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  Speaker 13: her voice. And uh, that power boat came by and
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  Speaker 13: I waved my flash light on my phone in the
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  Speaker 13: neighbor so fast it you know, they didn't even see it.
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  Speaker 13: And then as another one came by right behind it,
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  Speaker 13: sort of five minutes behind it, and I had I
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  Speaker 13: grabbed the players. By then I came with I had
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  Speaker 13: two flares, and they didn't see the flairs, I guess,
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  Speaker 13: and I after and then I didn't know what to do.
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  Speaker 13: I was basically where basically by the time I got
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  Speaker 13: the anchor said, I was probably a quarter to a
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  Speaker 13: half a mile away from her.
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  Speaker 2: What you're hearing there is sound from Unmasked True Crime.
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  Speaker 2: The star of Unmasked True Crime is with us, Vanessa Watson.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to go to her in just one moment.
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  Speaker 2: Fitz Gibbons, did you not hear him stay? He had
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  Speaker 2: his phone in his hand, according to him, and tried
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  Speaker 2: to use the phone flashlight the lamp to get the
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  Speaker 2: attention of a boat.
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  Speaker 1: He had the phone in his hand.
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  Speaker 4: Brian, Yeah, and I'm sure Attorney Kessler would agree with
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  Speaker 4: me here that you know, these numerous statements from Brian
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  Speaker 4: Hooker are not advised bull at this time right everything
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  Speaker 4: he's saying, the text messages to friends that are being
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  Speaker 4: immediately shared.
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  Speaker 9: With the media.
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  Speaker 4: It all provides contradictions to reality. Okay, numerous experiments, I
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  Speaker 4: should say, have been done to prove a same time,
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  Speaker 4: the Hopetown Fire and Rescue, somebody went out in their
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  Speaker 4: boat under the same conditions, they threw a dry bag
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: just like Lynette's overboard to see what would happen to it. Now,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: first of all, under the same exact conditions, which there
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: is a perfect record of this. There are no two
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: to three foot swells in that area. Everything he's saying
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: is being contradicted.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Presumed innocent, presumed innocent, presumed innocent. I can't say it enough. However,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I will point out that his story somehow morphed into
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: him throwing a life deserver overboard, because those were the
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: latest reports. But that is not what Lenance's daughter Carly
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: tells me.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: It's not even a life preserver. It's something that you
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: kneel on or sit on. It's like for gardening, you
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: something you kneel on, and it doesn't keep one hundred
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: and fifty pound person afloat. And it was supposedly found
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: like four hundred feet from the dinghy when it washed
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: up to short when he washed up to shore in
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: marsh harbor. So I don't really believe that he threw
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: it to her. I'm just thinking maybe he threw it
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: off to the side to make it look like he
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: did something to save her. I don't believe that it
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: would wash up right next to you, but my mom
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: suddenly washed the other way.
• 19:51
  Speaker 14: It just doesn't make sense.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Straight out to Vanessa Watsy's star of Unmasked True Crime,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the hit podcast to obtained the sound we were playing
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: earlier that tape recorded conversation with Brian Hooker instead of
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: out searching for his wife on the phone, pushing his
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: story about what really happened. Again, presumed dennocent, presumed innocent,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: presumed innocent, Vanessa Walsh. He left the Bahamas just as
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Lynette's bio daughter Carly was landing, did not wait to
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: see her to brief her on the case, to give
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: her a download about what was happening, turned tail and
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: ran to go to his ailing mother's bedside. Now reportedly
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: she's in has kidney problems, kidney failure, but she's a
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Sacramento and he's in Michigan. That bedside vigil didn't last
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: very long.
• 20:47
  Speaker 15: You know, he said, from the very beginning, over and
• 20:49
  Speaker 15: over to everyone that will listen that his sole focus
• 20:52
  Speaker 15: in this is to find Lynette, yet his actions have
• 20:55
  Speaker 15: never lined up with his words. And if this sole
• 20:58
  Speaker 15: focus was truly finding Lynette, when he would never have
• 21:02
  Speaker 15: left the Bahamas.
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: And in that TMZ.
• 21:06
  Speaker 15: Footage, what I thought was really interesting and important is
• 21:09
  Speaker 15: yet again we're getting to see even more examples of
• 21:13
  Speaker 15: how Brian behaved in the immediate aftermath of Lynnette's disappearance.
• 21:19
  Speaker 15: And I thought it was also interesting that that footage
• 21:21
  Speaker 15: was taken on Monday, April sixth, which was the same
• 21:24
  Speaker 15: day of the other reported call that was leaked. And
• 21:28
  Speaker 15: in this footage, just like the other call, Brian's completely
• 21:31
  Speaker 15: calm and monotail, like you mentioned, and it's like he's
• 21:35
  Speaker 15: talking about the weather, not the fact that his wife
• 21:38
  Speaker 15: of twenty five years has just gone missing twenty four
• 21:43
  Speaker 15: hours earlier. So again we're hearing this controlled, almost rehearsed
• 21:49
  Speaker 15: kind of explanation of events. And my question is, you know,
• 21:55
  Speaker 15: is this the behavior of someone who's in shock or
• 21:58
  Speaker 15: someone who's practicing their story, because that's the impression I
• 22:02
  Speaker 15: know that some of his friends had the last I
• 22:05
  Speaker 15: spoke to them.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Vanessa Walsh, I couldn't agree more. But I also agree
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: believe it or not with Randy Kessler, veteran defense lawyer,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: because someone's behavior, their genuine empathy or not, can be
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: construed many many ways by a jury. But Hard evids
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: it's what I would be looking for now. He says
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: he has to leave the Bahamas and leave the search
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: to which he has dedicated his life for his wife,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to get to his mother, who lives in Sacramento. We
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: believe this is what Carly tells me. Have you spoken
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: to him since he turned tail and left.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: No, he hasn't even reached out either. I know he
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: flew to Atlanta, but where you went after that is
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know for certain, but I think it's in California.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Where's mother? Do you have any indy cation she's in
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the hospital. Yeah.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's in the hospital because she was
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: going to get to kinney transplant but she declined, so
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think she's going to the hospital.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, Randy Kesser, that was a really short bedside vigil.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I mean all they saw of him and Bahamas was
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: elbows and tailhole running to catch his plying bam out
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: of there, and he knew Carley was landing, but he
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: left to go to a critical bedside vigil with his mother,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: and then oops had to go to Michigan to hire
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: a lawyer.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: Thoughts, Oh, I guess he's guilty. He left to go
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: see a sick mom. You know he's not running away
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: from the law. There's an extradition treaty with the Bahamas
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: if he's accused, if he's charged, they'll be able to
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: get him back. But he's doing what he can in
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: this world. You know what can he do there? He's
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: not the for the authorities of the experts of Bahama Coastguard,
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: the investigators taking out on But he's got a sick
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: mother who can help. He can't help his deceased wife anymore.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: You help where you can. I'm not here to judge him.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: I'm here to figure out what put him up. Okay,
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: I'm up.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Kesser.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: If you thought your family member was floating in the ocean,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and you just said on camera you're devoting your life,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: you're not going to leave till you find them, then
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: suddenly you high tail it. I mean, then you claim
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: you're going to your mom's bedside, but you don't. You
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: leave there too, and go hire a lawyer. Speaking of lawyer,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: here's Crystal Marie Hauser.
• 24:45
  Speaker 14: I would ask those watching to treat him the way
• 24:49
  Speaker 14: you would want to be treated, to give him the
• 24:52
  Speaker 14: benefit of the doubt. I imagine that is where his
• 24:55
  Speaker 14: heart is, but I can't speak on whether or not
• 24:57
  Speaker 14: that's what he will be doing.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, so his heart is in the Bahamas, that's my
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: friends at WZZ thirteen. His heart is in the Bahamas,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: but his rear end is in Michigan.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: His mother is sick. No, he's disputing that, and we
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: don't know what advice.
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: His lawyer gave him.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: Maybe his lawyer told him there are legal reasons why
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: he should not be in the Bahamas. He obviously talks
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: a lot, he obviously gets recorded a lot. I'm sure
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: his lawyer does not like that. So maybe this was
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: just good lawyer advice saying, listen under if you're under
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: a cloud of suspicion, you don't need to be further
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: indicting yourself making statements that people are judging you. I
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: don't like his tonal voice when he's talking. He sounds
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: very matter of fact. In every conversation that you've played.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: I don't like that. If I was his lawyer, I
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: would say, please, don't be talking to people about this.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Don't talk to anybody. Maybe getting him out of there
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: makes it easier to keep him away from the media,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: away from people that were taping him. Who knows what
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: his advice is from his lord, but I would not
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: be shocked if that was parsonally his lawyer's instruction, which
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: is remove yourself, get away from anybody that might try
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: to find a way to accuse you or prove that
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: you had something to do with this. As much as
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: you want to help, you're not able to help being there.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: According to reports tonight, husband Brian Hooker has left his
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: mother's bedside vigil, gone to Michigan and hired a lawyer.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: This is start contrast to what he said earlier.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: I won't be able to stop looking.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: You want to keep looking for Lynette.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I'm going to need somebody with more authority to tell
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: me to stop.
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: Without there's no point being in any of it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: I don't.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Because I'm knowing your difficulty.
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: She wouldn't stop, and I margarets, I think that's all
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: I can really do.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: Jes understand.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Brian, Thank you for your time.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you from our friends and NBC and CBS. Straight
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: back out to Vanessa Waltz, to star of Unmasked True Crime.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: That was him saying.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: He went on to say he was dedicating his life
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: to finding Lynette. What more can you tell us about
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: him leaving the Bahamas, going to Sacramento, we think, and
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: then leaving quickly from the bedside vigil on to Michigan
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: to hire a lawyer.
• 27:25
  Speaker 15: The only thing I've been told by his friends is
• 27:28
  Speaker 15: they're not even sure, you know, if he did that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 15: They just know that his mom is sick in California,
• 27:35
  Speaker 15: where his sister is located. But we don't know that,
• 27:38
  Speaker 15: you know, really any of the details of him going
• 27:40
  Speaker 15: to sit with his mom. We do know that he
• 27:42
  Speaker 15: went to Michigan and hired a lawyer who's now asking
• 27:45
  Speaker 15: the public to give him the benefit of the doubt,
• 27:47
  Speaker 15: which is getting harder and harder to do.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Back out to doctor Bethany Marshall, joining us renowned psycho analyst.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Way in on what you're seeing and hearing, Bethany.
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: I'm seeing and hearing lack of empathy for the victim.
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: So one of the things we do in forensic interviews
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: when we interview a potential perpetrator is how do they
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: talk about the victim? Are they loving? Are they worried
• 28:13
  Speaker 11: about where the victim is? What is missing from all
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: these interviews is references to where she might be. Imagine
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: one of your loved ones, Nancy has disappeared at sea.
• 28:26
  Speaker 11: You'd be like, oh my god, what if they're still alive?
• 28:28
  Speaker 11: Is she floating out there? Are their sharks? Are their
• 28:32
  Speaker 11: predators in the water, are their sea creatures? A kid
• 28:35
  Speaker 11: just can't imagine her being out there, lost and alone.
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: I have not heard one reference like that. So in
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: cases like this, it's not what the person says, necessarily,
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: it's what they leave out. It's the story holes. It's
• 28:50
  Speaker 11: what they're not saying that begins to concern me.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Back to tonight's discovery that the search has shifted from the
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: water to the lane, and take a listen to what
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: daughter Carly missus Lynance Bayou daughter tells me.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: We looked where she fell in. The whole thing is
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: like a giant sandbar. She could have swam a couple
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: of feet and then stood up, So I don't see
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: how she could have flown away and drowned. And she
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: used to run all the time, ran half marathon in
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: a twenty five k so she was pretty fit. She
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: could swim. They've done this for ten years, so she
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: knows all about the.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Water, So.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Kessler, they were on a sand bar. You know what
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: a sandbar is, right, You can stand on it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: In most places. Yes, yeah, I mean which want to
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: say you don't know exactly that's your sar. I mean
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: the sandbar is two feet deep, then it goes to
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: six feet deep, then it goes away. You know, if
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: if it was right in the middle of a sandbar,
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: then he would have found her and she would have been,
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: you know, saved. Of course, you know he's all confused.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: I don't like his tone when he talks. But you're
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: not going to convict him because you've got a discrepancy
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: in what he said to a friend versus what he
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: said to a reporter versus what he said later. You know, Yeah,
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: if it was on a sandbar, there wouldn't be a search.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: It'd be over because she'd be right there. Also, waters
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: move people, right, you try to push two feet of
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: water over about over a bunch of sand, it moves quickly. Otherwise,
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: you know, you'd have a lake instead of an ocean.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, spoken like a true navigator, you'd have a lake
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: instead of an ocean.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Look, Kesser, I don't blame you.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I know you're scrambling back out to Brian Fitzgibbons, Director
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Operations USPA Nationwide Security. You heard what the daughter said. Now,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I want to go back to where the search is happening. Now,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: when it began leaving the water. According to what we've
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: been told, it started on the edges of the land
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: where her body could have flowed after going overboard.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: But it's passed that.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, at least Nancy, we know that extensive canine searches
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: have happened, not only over the water. These canines are
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: able to detect anything coming up from under over thirty
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: feet of water, believe it or not, So that search
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: took place. They searched the shoreline and they also extensively
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: searched Abaco Island Elbow k where they were in their
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: final recorded moments together. So you know, a lot's going
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: to unfold here. I'm keen to find out the digital
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: evidence in this case, explain. I want to know if
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Brian attempted to make a call during this multi hour
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: period that he was traversing or allegedly traversing from Abaco
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: to Marsh Harbor. So did he try to make a call.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Is there any information from Lynnette's recovered Apple watch that,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: according to some photos posted online, were with her at
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: the Abaco Inn just moments minutes before she would have
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: gotten onto this dinghy. And then the last piece of
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: information is did that soulmate vessel move and does it
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: contradict anything Brian gave in his multi hour statement to police.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: You were talking about canines searching land and water. Here's
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: canine specialist Dave Moyer. First of all, canacadaver dog pick
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: up the scent of a dead body in water?
• 32:45
  Speaker 16: Yes, ma'am, they absolutely can. As a matter of fact,
• 32:47
  Speaker 16: there's a there's a whole extension of the cadaver discipline
• 32:51
  Speaker 16: that focuses primarily on dogs on boats being able to
• 32:55
  Speaker 16: detect people in the water column. The circumstances of this
• 32:59
  Speaker 16: case may get exceedingly difficult for these canines to actually
• 33:03
  Speaker 16: be able to accomplish this due to the duration a
• 33:06
  Speaker 16: sense this action event actually occurred, and all of the
• 33:10
  Speaker 16: live dynamic action of that salt water that sallow, shallow
• 33:14
  Speaker 16: warm salt water is just full of all kinds of
• 33:17
  Speaker 16: predatory creatures, currents and environmental conditions that quite honestly would
• 33:22
  Speaker 16: bring a body in the surface very rapidly.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Tonight, in a shocking twist, that Bahama search for missing
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: mom Lynette Hooker takes to the land takes to the
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: land to Vanessa Walts, joining a star of unmasked true crime.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I can only assume they're looking near the avoco in
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: They may be tracing digital. I think that's where Bryfus
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Gibbons was going. If the digital can be triangulated on
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: his phone, on his smart watch, on her smart watch,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: where they were on land, my guess is that's what
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the land search will be focused.
• 34:04
  Speaker 15: I agree, and I also wondered when I heard that
• 34:06
  Speaker 15: it switched to land if they maybe got a new
• 34:08
  Speaker 15: tip or if some of that digital evidence is changing
• 34:11
  Speaker 15: his narrative and changing his timeline. And I also agree
• 34:15
  Speaker 15: that it will be very interesting to see if his
• 34:18
  Speaker 15: boat moved at all, because there is that critical window
• 34:22
  Speaker 15: of the eight hours when he was allegedly drifting kind
• 34:26
  Speaker 15: of paddling to Marsh Harbor, but there is some indication
• 34:31
  Speaker 15: that his boat was offline for about eleven hours starting
• 34:34
  Speaker 15: at nine point thirty pm, so maybe they found out
• 34:37
  Speaker 15: more about that as well.
• 34:43
  Speaker 10: We're finally leaving Chema.
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: We're going to a boat.
• 34:48
  Speaker 10: It's only been four months.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: The sales are off and we're getting ready to leave
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Galveston Bay.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: First blue Water.
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: It's all for exciting.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: They too of crossing the Gulf of Mexico.
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: We are crossing the Gulf of Mexico.
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: And Brian found the speaker.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Do the foghorn, I.
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: Will do the foghorn. Pretty cool.
• 35:41
  Speaker 10: Brian fell through the front window. Our head sail won't
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: roll it. That's an exhausted captain.
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: But alive.
• 35:51
  Speaker 10: One lungry time, no grocery time. Yep, that's how we
• 36:00
  Speaker 10: do laundry. Kid success, all.
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: Right, we got to grow up. Delivery. It's a way.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Of life, man, and seemingly happier times. But now this
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: were you surprised he left?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Because one day he's saying I'll never stop searching for
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: her and crying on camera and then leaves the very
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: next day, which to me that just shows his character
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: on how much his word means and just who he
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: is as a person. You're gonna go see your mom
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: who's been ill. She's been ill, for a while with
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: chronic kidney failure. So I'm not saying like, don't see
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: your mom, but with what's going on right now, why
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: leave now? I don't think he wanted A part of
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: me feels like he didn't want to face Steve and I.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I'm glad he left those because I did not want
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: to run into him. I did not I didn't want
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: to say something, and I regret or something.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: And tonight allegations of violence in the home.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: She told me two years ago that he choked her
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: and was threatening to kill her and throw her overboard,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: and she said he choked her so bad that she
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: felt something like pop in her neck. So and then
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: that's when she packed her bag and left, and that
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: she only left him for like a couple of months.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: She went back to him.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Sadly.
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: I don't know why she went back.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: I think she's always known that she needs to leave him,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: but she cares about him a lot, and he can
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: be a great person, Like he's been there a lot
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: for me and always gave me advice too. Because I
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: was in a group chat with him and my moms.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I got along with him for my mom. Really, I
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: always didn't want her to be with him. Every time
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: they broke up. I was like advocating for her to
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: stay away because it feels like he like tried to
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: like take her away and like made herself the house.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: And I know that she wanted to do that eventually,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: but I don't think that she.
• 38:18
  Speaker 17: Was like ready to do it yet.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: She says when she's not with him, she feels like
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: she needs to go back to work for a little bit,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: because she retired at forty nine, so she could have
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: stayed a little her.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Did you see the photo of the bruises all along
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: her lower back?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know her friend had that picture. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: see that until after all this happened. Like, she doesn't
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  Speaker 3: really tell me much about what goes on in the
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  Speaker 3: relationship until after she thinks she's going to leave him.
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  Speaker 3: So I just hear from my grandma and from Rachel, her.
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  Speaker 2: Friend Vanessa waltsh joining us on mass True Crime podcast.
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  Speaker 2: What do you know regarding corroboration of those times Lynette
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  Speaker 2: would leave?
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  Speaker 15: So there were a few things I noticed in their
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  Speaker 15: social media as far as they're posting, that could point
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  Speaker 15: to some potential red flags leading up to her disappearance.
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  Speaker 15: So I went through the Hooker's YouTube channel post by post,
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  Speaker 15: and their pattern.
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  Speaker 7: Of posting was pretty consistent.
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  Speaker 15: It was every one to three days up until March.
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  Speaker 15: So on March tenth, Lynette's post, she posts a normal
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  Speaker 15: video and then the channel goes completely dark for nine days,
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  Speaker 15: which is the longest gap by far. Going back months,
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  Speaker 15: Bennette's mother says that Lynette purchased a one way plane
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  Speaker 15: ticket to leave Brian. It was scheduled for March eleventh,
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  Speaker 15: the day after that post, but she never gone on
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  Speaker 15: the plane.
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  Speaker 5: And then after that nine.
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  Speaker 15: Day gap, Lynette starts posting again like normal on March nineteenth.
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  Speaker 15: So my question was, you know what happened during that
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  Speaker 15: those nine days? Did Brian find out that she was
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  Speaker 15: going to leave to be found out about the plane ticket?
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  Speaker 15: Did this cause even more attention and they're already troubled relationship.
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  Speaker 15: I just thought it was an interesting gap from their
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  Speaker 15: normal posting.
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  Speaker 11: Doctor Bethany Marshall way in, there's so many risk factors
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  Speaker 11: for violence here. One noteworthy one is that he choked
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  Speaker 11: her to the point where she felt a pop in
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  Speaker 11: her neck. Nancy selling her house if she sold it
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  Speaker 11: to make him happy, and she did not want to
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  Speaker 11: sell it. That tells me that he's liquidating her access
• 40:29
  Speaker 11: her assets, so he could potentially have access to them.
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  Speaker 11: How do they afford to be out on the water
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  Speaker 11: for ten years not working. She wants to go back
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  Speaker 11: to work, but he is discouraging it. And this is
• 40:40
  Speaker 11: what abusers do to the victims. They isolate them from
• 40:44
  Speaker 11: their friends and from the rest of society so they
• 40:46
  Speaker 11: can have control over them, and they do discourage them
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  Speaker 11: from having their own separate resources. So as this case progresses,
• 40:56
  Speaker 11: I'm going to ask a few questions and look, did
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  Speaker 11: he have a girlfriend? What were his online habits? Was
• 41:01
  Speaker 11: he chatting with somebody looking at pornography excessively? Who had
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  Speaker 11: access to her bank account? Did he have access? Was
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  Speaker 11: there money being moved around At the time of her death?
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  Speaker 17: I asked Brian where's Lynette? And he said, well, we're
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  Speaker 17: not getting along. We're separated, and I don't know when
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  Speaker 17: we're going to get back together if we get back together. Basically,
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  Speaker 17: I don't think Lynette and Brian should have been together.
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  Speaker 17: It just seemed like it got bad. Lynette should never
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  Speaker 17: be in that water, and I feel for her daughter,
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  Speaker 17: and I can't even imagine it. I can't even imagine it.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: That is Donna hook or Brian Hooker's stepmother.
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  Speaker 2: From our friends at WZZM tonight, we are learning the
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  Speaker 2: search has expanded to on the ground, most likely in
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  Speaker 2: areas that can be proven digitally where they frequented just
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  Speaker 2: before Lynette Hooker disappears. We wait as justice unfolds. If
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  Speaker 2: you know or think you know anything about the disappearance
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  Speaker 2: of Lynette Hooker. Two four two three hundred eight four
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  Speaker 2: seven seven repeat two four two three hundred eight four
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  Speaker 2: seven seven. We remember American Hero Officer Russell Croxton, dubaiq PD, Louisiana,
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  Speaker 2: killed in the line of duty after seventeen years, leaving
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  Speaker 2: behind a wife turned widow, Jennifer, and two daughters, Heather
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  Speaker 2: and Amanda. American Hero Officer Russell Croxton. Thank you to
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: our guest, but thank you for being with us. Nancy
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  Speaker 2: Gray signing off for tonight, but I'll see you tomorrow night,
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  Speaker 2: and until then, good night friend,