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184. [Louisiana] The Baton Rouge Serial Killer · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome, bless this mess on the True Crump Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care here, what's doa? I used to right,
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  Speaker 1: all right, we are back this week and we are
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  Speaker 1: going to Louisiana. You hit your microphone cord?
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  Speaker 2: Did everybody hear that?
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  Speaker 3: Probably?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Sorry, we don't have time to go back and edit.
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  Speaker 1: It's we're almost we're almost down.
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  Speaker 3: To o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not two o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like that though.
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  Speaker 1: We are down to I used to when we first
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  Speaker 1: started this, I used to try to edit, and we'd stop,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'd we'd record everything, and then I go
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  Speaker 1: back and listen to all and edit, and then I
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  Speaker 1: try to use some sort of like software that would
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  Speaker 1: take out the blanks and stuff if there were silences.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're at the point where we're almost one take podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We just I don't we don't worry about it. If
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, no, I do not. What's wrong
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  Speaker 1: with you? That has not happened anyways more. No, what
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  Speaker 1: more happens is STU says something real stupid.
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  Speaker 2: What that we got to go back.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're gonna get us canceled. We cannot say
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  Speaker 1: you cannot say that. That's the only time.
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  Speaker 3: So now there are no bloopers saved anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: No, there're not. This is basically which is we're just
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  Speaker 1: the what's that stream of conscious into the microphone. Anyways, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to Louisiana. We're gonna do a short episode
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  Speaker 1: on Derek Todd Lee, just kind of going over he
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  Speaker 1: was the serial killer out of Baton Rouge if you
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  Speaker 1: recall back in the early like late nineties, early two
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  Speaker 1: thousand time frame.
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  Speaker 3: And so I know a girl that's said she was
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  Speaker 3: a roommate of one of the victims. Oh yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: was not interested.
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  Speaker 2: What wow?
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  Speaker 3: What this is like?
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  Speaker 1: Send a man in to do a woman's stop, I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you about.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah that's interesting. Yeah yeah, oh.
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  Speaker 1: My god, your son?
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  Speaker 2: What this is like?
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  Speaker 1: This would be like I'll be talking to Stu and
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  Speaker 1: he'll say, yeah, I was hanging out with such and such.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he's getting divorced or something. Just I know this
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  Speaker 1: doesn't happen. I'm just saying this is the example. Be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my buddy, yeah he's getting divorced or whatever. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: what about It's like, what are you talking about? Like, well,
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  Speaker 1: why are they getting divorced? What happened?
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  Speaker 2: When did this happen?
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't even cross their mind to like get into the gossip.
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  Speaker 3: Of it all.
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  Speaker 2: This is what failure.
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  Speaker 1: I just hope that Stue never runs into somebody that
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  Speaker 1: I would really be interested in knowing additional information about,
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  Speaker 1: because he would fail. I would be like, did you
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  Speaker 1: ask him anything else? No?
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  Speaker 3: What fail? Miss?
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  Speaker 1: Although I did meet Kelly Clarkson one time, and I
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  Speaker 1: did fell I did. I don't know. I just I
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  Speaker 1: shut down.
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  Speaker 3: What were you supposed to do?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I should.
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  Speaker 1: Have said more things to her.
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  Speaker 3: I should have liked, oh, I'm your biggest fan.
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  Speaker 1: Ever, No, I feel like I should have at least
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  Speaker 1: remember what DVD collection she asked me to look up.
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  Speaker 1: I used to work at a Borders bookstore in Arlington,
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  Speaker 1: Texas rip Borders Bookstores. And Kelly Clarkson is from uh
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  Speaker 1: not Mandeville, that's Louisiana, man's town whatever. That there's some
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  Speaker 1: town down there and starts with an M. It's right
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  Speaker 1: by Arlington, And so she came into the Borders bookstore
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  Speaker 1: one time and she had I remember it was back
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  Speaker 1: whenever people used to wear this gray sweat girls used
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  Speaker 1: to wear the Grace sweatpants and cut them off like capris,
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  Speaker 1: like you cut them off. She was wearing that in
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  Speaker 1: like a white like wife beater type tanked help or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and her hair a ponytail. And so she walked in
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  Speaker 1: and I think I saw her, but I didn't like
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  Speaker 1: really recognize her, because you know, she didn't have any
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  Speaker 1: makeup on or anything. She just looked like a regular
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  Speaker 1: old person or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Did you say, hey, since she'd been gone, we got
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  Speaker 3: some new books?
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  Speaker 1: No, I did not. God missed opportunity, I know. So
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  Speaker 1: then I walk up to her and she was I.
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  Speaker 1: We were trained to, like you had to walk up
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  Speaker 1: and say hey, do you need help? Hey? Can I
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  Speaker 1: help you find anything? So I said, Hi, can I
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  Speaker 1: help you find anything? She turned around. I'm like, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I'd look at her for a second. I'm like, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, you're Kelly Clarkson. And she's
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  Speaker 1: like yeah, And I was like, okay, what.
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  Speaker 2: Would you like?
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  Speaker 1: We don't mind, And that was my interaction. I helped
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  Speaker 1: her find a DVD set collection. It was very expensive
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  Speaker 1: back then, the DVD collection, especially if you bought them
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  Speaker 1: from like a Borders or Barnes and Noble. I remember
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  Speaker 1: it was like some of them would be like four
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars, like for the full season of So she
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  Speaker 1: went in and she bought a I don't for what thing,
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  Speaker 1: but it was her friends with her friend was with
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  Speaker 1: her and her friend wanted it or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like two hundred and something dollars. It
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  Speaker 1: was expensive. And then I remember the guy that was
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  Speaker 1: checked that did the register. It was either no, it
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  Speaker 1: was the guy, or was my friend did the register?
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  Speaker 1: And so we were trained to ask for ID or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and so she didn't even look up and look at her.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, can I see her ID? And or no,
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  Speaker 1: it was the guy. Okay, the guy. There's a guy
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  Speaker 1: that worked there, and he was creepy as fuck, and
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  Speaker 1: so he asked her to see her I D or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So she shows it.
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  Speaker 1: And then he starts saying that he lives like near
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  Speaker 1: her or something like it. It was like, not, okay,
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  Speaker 1: what how he acted? It was very strange. I think
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  Speaker 1: he got let go, but he was yes. So maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's Mansville. I don't remember. Is that a city in Louisiana.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Mandeille is okay, maybe it's Mansville. Is the town up there?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe not a bunch of men's there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna look it up anyways, you could look
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  Speaker 1: it up for me.
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  Speaker 2: You're not doing anything around.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a city next to someone is
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  Speaker 1: yelling into screaming into their radios right now going I
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  Speaker 1: would I think it's Mansville.
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  Speaker 3: I would never know where Kelly.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So anyways, so she's so. That was my interaction
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  Speaker 1: with Kelly Clarkson. But my point is we've gotten off track.
• 6:27
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• 6:43
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• 6:47
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  Speaker 2: You didn't say drink drank.
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  Speaker 3: I was looking at Kelly Clark.
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  Speaker 2: Where's she from?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know? It says fort Worth. She grew up
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  Speaker 3: in the suburb of Burlson.
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  Speaker 1: Burlsson Burless and yes, someways we appreciate everybody who has
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  Speaker 1: joined mansil. Okay, she may not be from there, but
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  Speaker 1: she lives in Mansville, Mansfield. It's man's field.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So moving on from Kelly Clarkson.
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  Speaker 3: It all comes back to Kelley Clarkson.
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  Speaker 1: Yes it does, all right, Oh right, resubscribe where we
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  Speaker 1: I am murdering. People have a real problem with the
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  Speaker 1: all right? I think, Oh, I was gonna update everybody
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  Speaker 1: we had talked about my books. I tried to tell
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  Speaker 1: Stu about my books yesterday and it didn't go well
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  Speaker 1: because he doesn't understand I'd looked at.
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  Speaker 3: You, I had the dar in a headlight's glazed looking
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  Speaker 3: mine and I was lucky.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to explain to him, if you've read Yesteryear,
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  Speaker 1: I finished Yesteryear. I was trying to explain it to him,
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  Speaker 1: just for the record. I did not. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I still don't know how I feel about it. I
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  Speaker 1: did enjoy it, I felt I stayed up till two
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  Speaker 1: am to finish it. So to me, sometimes I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: should I just read a book by how engaged I
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  Speaker 1: was or how I felt about the book? If I
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  Speaker 1: five star, but how did I feel about the whole
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  Speaker 1: book and how it ended and what everything was? Maybe
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  Speaker 1: it was more of a three star three and a half.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I finished Yesteryear because that's our
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  Speaker 1: book club for this next or this month in July
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. And then I'm starting to read Good Joy,
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: Bad Joy, which I'm liking so far in about fifty pages in.
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  Speaker 1: It is about an eighty year old woman and her
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  Speaker 1: name is Joy and she has a friend I forget.
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  Speaker 3: Her name Joy no cause she's bad Joy.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: No. She has a eighty nine year old friend who
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: just found out that she has like cancer and so
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  Speaker 1: she only has a few months to live. But the
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  Speaker 1: friend has kind of lived like a real adventurous life.
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  Speaker 1: She's gone all over the world and just kind of
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  Speaker 1: you know, is real, you know, lives out loud and
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  Speaker 1: stuff that. And Joy has always been the same house
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  Speaker 1: for sixty years. She's just you know, so keeps everything,
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  Speaker 1: thinks the best and people, tries not to be an inconvenience.
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  Speaker 1: And then now she's starting to we haven't got the point. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So she's starting to get to the point where she's
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  Speaker 1: starting to look at her friend's life and.
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  Speaker 2: It's about to end.
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  Speaker 1: But she's okay with dying because she feels like she's
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: really lived a fulfilling life and done all the things
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  Speaker 1: she wanted to do, and Joy's like, but have I
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  Speaker 1: done that? And so we're gonna find bad so good
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  Speaker 1: Joy's about to figure out understand bad Joy, and no,
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  Speaker 1: Stu was like, oh, what like the threesomes at the nursing, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna get a Eiffel towered.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck why would you say that?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 1: That's not what Joy's gonna do. I think she might
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: break the law or something. I don't know. Anyways, that's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm currently reading reading.
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  Speaker 2: There's a couple I got audio books.
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  Speaker 1: I got other things going on, but those are That's
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  Speaker 1: my main book right now.
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  Speaker 3: So Norman and Merv.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go ahead and get started up it.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus, this is.
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  Speaker 1: The intro Sto. People are just now listening for the
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  Speaker 1: first time.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't contribute enough sometimes, you know what, and
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: the bantern.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: You know what I think it's funny is that so
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: yesterday I whenever I posted my cooking dinner, I threw
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: in Penis dough for the hot dog buns. I think
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: it's so funny because like somebody, so one person was like,
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: I listened to the podcast for a long time, so
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: I should know better that you're gonna say that, but
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: it's so funny because like the people in there and
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: they just see me like this nice mom before like
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: and then I'll then I threw in penis in there.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: I should repost my video about the pep of the
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  Speaker 1: pig cake.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got it, yeah the micro yes.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways, all right, so let's go ahead and get into
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  Speaker 1: this week's episode out of Louisiana. All right, So in
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  Speaker 1: August of nineteen ninety two, Connie Warner vanished from her
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  Speaker 1: home in Zachary, Louisiana. So all this is happening around
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  Speaker 1: Baton Rouge. Zachary is where at stew your market.
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  Speaker 3: It is up north of Baton Rouge on Airline.
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  Speaker 2: Highway okay, airline for the Way sixty one.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they almost moved us to Baton Rouge this.
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  Speaker 3: Time I did, we would we would have probably ended
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  Speaker 3: up in Zachary, Baker or something.
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  Speaker 1: So her body was found a week So how we're
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  Speaker 1: going to do this is this is Derek Todd Lee.
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  Speaker 1: So we're just gonna run. We're going through the different
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  Speaker 1: crimes that are happening, and they don't know who could
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  Speaker 1: be responsible. This is a scary time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it took them a while to put it
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  Speaker 3: together that it was probably the same person. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: then Derek Tidley obviously broke the mold on serial killers.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so we'll talk about it later.
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  Speaker 3: STU whom they thought they were.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll talk about it later. Why are you just
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  Speaker 1: jumping ahead?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 1: Her body was found a week later near a lake.
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  Speaker 1: She died from a skull fracture. Now because of Hurricane Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: the region was struck or Hurricane Andrew struck two days
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  Speaker 1: later in that area after her disappearance. So any type
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  Speaker 1: of physical evidence that was outdoor or anything that was
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  Speaker 1: completely destroyed, which we've heard this a lot people. Some
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  Speaker 1: people do c that one we remember he killed is
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  Speaker 1: what his ex wife during Hurricane Harvey.
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  Speaker 3: Oh the one in Florida.
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  Speaker 1: No, the one in Houston. Oh yeah, Hurricane Harvey's Houston.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't I can't keep tryinging. We've been through
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  Speaker 3: so many hurricanes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, lacking forensic leads, please focused on Connie's ex boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: and her daughter's boyfriend. Now both faced years of interrogation
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  Speaker 1: and suspicion before.
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  Speaker 3: Being cleared in April nineteen ninety eight. Another crime occurred
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  Speaker 3: that is one block from Connie's former house. Randy Jane
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  Speaker 3: met me Burreer. I believe my Brewer was abducted from
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  Speaker 3: her residence. Now her three year old son, which is scary.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine our little child having to go walk
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  Speaker 3: alone down the road. Now he walks down the road
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  Speaker 3: to the neighbor's house the next morning and he's like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: my mom's missing. Police go into the house. They find
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  Speaker 3: there's blood everywhere, but Randy's body was never located. Detectives
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  Speaker 3: focused on Randy's ex husband, screening him, interrogating him before
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  Speaker 3: they finally ruled him out. Lacking a body, a weapon,
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: any physical evidence that could tie them to anybody, the
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  Speaker 3: case went cold.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: So the next one we have up. So nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 1: two is the first year he strikes, and then we
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  Speaker 1: have all the way to ninety nine, and then in
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: September two thousand and one, he really starts. He's going
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  Speaker 1: to start picking up his pace. So Gina Wilson Green
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  Speaker 1: was found raped and strangled inside her home near Louisiana
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  Speaker 1: State University, which is LSU, which is like the heart
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  Speaker 1: of Baton Rouge. Yes, would you say, Stu.
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  Speaker 3: I would say it's a lot of things center on
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  Speaker 3: the the sporting events going on it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, LSU a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like the whole town's identity is.
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  Speaker 2: Go Tigers, Go tigers.
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  Speaker 1: That in taking money from the citizens of Louisiana at
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: the casinos, no, at the Texas, at the taxi it's
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: state taxes that just continue to increase.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they actually lowered those.
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  Speaker 2: Oh they did, but it's still it's like I.
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  Speaker 3: Think they were six percent there, four and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Now, oh really they actually lowered them. Wow, they usually
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  Speaker 1: did they raise something else? Then?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know?
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  Speaker 1: All right, So she is strangled near at her home
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  Speaker 1: near the LSU campus. Because Gina lived alone, Detectives vetted
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  Speaker 1: local transience and professional acquaintances without success. Now forensic technicians
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  Speaker 1: extracted and preserved a semen sample from the scene. So
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  Speaker 1: now they finally have them some physical evidence. Yes, but
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  Speaker 1: it's two thousand and two, it's two thousand and one.
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  Speaker 1: But it's two thousand and one, two thousand and one.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that they had.
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  Speaker 3: Some DNA colog Yeah, I mean, but it's going to
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  Speaker 3: take a while because they don't have the code of
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  Speaker 3: system built. They don't have all the things that they
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  Speaker 3: need to match it. But they do have the DNA sample, so.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they at least have something to start with there now.
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  Speaker 3: In January two thousand and two, Jarrelyn bar DeSoto was
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  Speaker 3: murdered inside her mobile home and addis, she was beaten, stabbed,
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  Speaker 3: and her throat was slashed. Police immediately arrested her husband,
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  Speaker 3: Darren de Soto, based on a neighbor's report of a
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: past argument.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Aaron was held under suspicion until, of course he's the husband.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: You think I would be a suspect.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, and all these they always just go straight for
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the husband or the ex husband or the boyfriend or whatever,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: which did not help these putting these crimes together whatsoever.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: It did not. But he was held till DNA proved
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: that he was not the murderer. Not the murderer.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Yes. Now. In May in two thousand and two, Charlotte
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Murray Pace was attacked inside her Baton Rouge townhouse. Now,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: she fought her attacker across multiple rooms before being stabbed
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: over eighty times. And so what they believe is that
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: he came in, he wanted to rape her, and when
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: she fought because it wasn't normal. This wasn't normal for
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: him to stab him that many times or whatever. They
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: believe that she he was tried to rape her and
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: so she fought back so hard. He just got extremely
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: angry and still abbed her that many times.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Like it was clearly like out, yes, more than you
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: would have.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: So forensic scientists were able to get DNA from the skin,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: uh some skin tissue that Charlotte trapped under her fingernails
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: during the struggle. Now the markers match the DNA profile
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: found at the Gina Wilson Green crime scene, confirming that
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: a single unidentified serial killer was operating in the area.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: So this is super scary now because we have now
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: someone out there attacking young women across Baton Rouge and
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: they don't know is this only the second one or
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: do they are there more that they just never connected
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: to this?
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Are there more that are missing that they don't even
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: know about? Now the body count did continue to rise.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Well, the thing was, I will say he seemed to
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: or at least the ones that they knew about, Well,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: there could been more that missing he didn't, you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Like some of them will target more people that like
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: women like that Jenny eight or whatever. They're women that
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: maybe not on the fringe, Yes, on the fringe. It
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: may not be. They'd just be like, oh, well they
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: just disappeared because that's just their lifestyle or whatever. He
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: really like, these were all a lot of these Most
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: of these ones were like mother students, people that had
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: were in like getting their master's degree and stuff like that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: These were not just people on the streets where he
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: could just take one, take a woman and nobody would
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: notice she was missing. These were all people that people
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: would take note that we're missing. Unless he There is
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: some rumors that he attacked more, killed more women, but
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I mean he killed quite a few that were known.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Yes. In July two thousand and two, Pamela Kennelmore was
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: abducted from her home and her body was found with
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: her throat slit near the Whiskey Bay off ramp off
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: of I ten. That is the big long bridge that
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: goes over the Chapel I Basin. Yes, and it is,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know not. I guess it's kind of around
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: the halfway mark maybe. I mean halfway the Whiskey Bay Bridge,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: the where you get off when you're going across the
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: base and you go over that one but not the
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Butte Laro's exit where the they got the rest area
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: there at that one. The Whiskey Bay one is the
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: one that goes.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Up over, so that's where they also threw that Mickey
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Shuenix bike. That's yeah, that's we're not you know what,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: We've talked about covering that case or whatever, but her
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: sister does not like you to go over that does
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: not like you to cover that case. So we're just
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: gonna not do. If you never heard the Mickey Shunick cases,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: she was abducted on her bike in Lafayette and it
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: was like a major ordeal. The we'd like the whole
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: town basically shut down trying to find her and everything.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: So they finally did figure out what happened, and the
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: guy had actually killed someone like, oh, a long time ago.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: It was like an ex.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Girlfriend or something like that.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Her name was Pate.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah he killed Texas. Yeah, he killed her a long
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: long time ago. And so they don't know how many
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe he had done this too in between there because
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it was the I mean it was like over.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Ten years was it ten years between?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I thought it was like nineteen ninety eight he did that.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I didn't think it was that far in between you.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a long time. Maybe it was
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: twenty twelve. I don't know. Those are really really far away. No,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: twenty twelve would have been twenty twelve would have been
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the Mickey Shunick thing. So yeah, it was probably in
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety eight I think or hers. Anyways, the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: point is is that so anyway, so they found her
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: bike was thrown off in the Whiskey bait. He had
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: taken her bike because what he did was he abduct
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: he hit her bike I think, and then he took
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it and threw it off.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: The somewhere the bridge. He threw it off the bridge,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: but it didn't go to the bottom. I got caught
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: in a tree and some fishermen found it. Yes, because
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: everybody knew to be looking for that bike too.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, everybody was on the lookout, was trying to find
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Mickey Shunick. Anyways, but we will not be covering the
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: game because her sister does not like you. She has
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: been on several true crime shows. I mean they put
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it out there and date lines, but she I don't
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: need her like coming at us, you know, So we're
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: just not going to cover it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people on our side. What do
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: you mean, like that would come to our page and
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: chastise us.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't want to be chastised. I can't even
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: have them correcting making fun of me because I say
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: ideal wrong. Yes, I cannot handle like an upset family member,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: And then the Killer Bees or whatever they're called. With
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: the Killer Bees, that's Beyonce's little online group that goes
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: after or.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Like the Swifties are the swift You don't want to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: anger them either.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of I don't know what
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: kind of group sister has, but we don't need them coming.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: For No, we don't need them coming forth.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: It's not that we'd be distrepobed. She doesn't like anybody that.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: She didn't say that she could cover it to cover it,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: like she even got I think crime junkie cover it
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and she got upset with them and Solf like you're
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: gonna upset with crime Drink Canada. I can't be part
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: of this because they got their own.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Group you know that comes to their crime junky Yeah.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they're called, but they've got their
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: own crime junkies.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Junkies I don't need them coming for us either.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: No, just let us be in our little corner of
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the internet.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: We're not this in crime, jnkey. We're just telling you
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: what happened.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: We're just telling you what happened. Okay, We're just like
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: where it's fine, we love everybody, everything's great.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Just leave us alone.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Shows. Yes, in a cost, we'll have to hire a
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: media person to argue with all our online trolls.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, And so anyways, that was the whole
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: point in the Whiskey Bay. That was also where her
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: bike was found. Now, in November of two thousand and two,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Traniesha Denay Colombe colomb might pronounce that right. Well, he
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: was abducted from a cemetery in Grand Katou and bludgets deet. Now,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: this was a weird one because I remember this. This
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: is I don't remember this, but I remember the story
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: people talking about the story. I mean, obviously I wasn't
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: there whenever this happened, but yeah, it's like right up
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: there where we were, like he was moving there was
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: He traveled a lot in that area because Lafayette and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Baton Rouge are about an hour apart, maybe forty five
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: minutes to an hour.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, about fifty miles.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was moving around or whatever.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Less there's a wreck on the Iten Bridge, then it's
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: about eight hours apart.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Yep. So then after that happened in March of two
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: thousand and three, Carrie Lynn Yo. So they didn't have
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: anything to connect these. Carrie Lynn Yoder was kidnapped from
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: her Lsu apartment complex and strange strangled. Her body was
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: left at the same Whiskey Bay site as Pamela's. So
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: this seemed to be a frequent place that he would
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: go in the dead of night, I'm sure and could
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: gumple body.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: A multi agency task force was formed, as one would
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: imagine that would be, but investigators relied on a profile
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: from the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit or the Bow the
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Ball Hey, Baul bau Ball.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, stay in. If you just turned the podcast,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I understand who would do.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Such a thing?
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Someone people right now, Just I'm done.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: First time listener, last time listener. First now, this was
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: a white They FBI determined that it was a white
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: male between the ages of twenty five and thirty five,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: and this is supported by a witness who under hypnosis
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: claimed to see a white man driving an old, white
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: pickup truck near a crime, saying.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Why is the FBI using hypnosis?
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Do they use that?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Still?
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they do. I'm sure they use people at
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Uh what do they call those? I don't know when
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: they have visions?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Uh, psychics, psychics.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they use psychics still.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Too, Are you sure?
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I'm almost positive there's a psychic somewhere. They're like, we
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: got this case is cold bringing the psychic?
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean I've seen that. I've seen that happen
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: on like but that's more like the family members doing that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I al would think that the FBI wouldn't. I mean,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I think hypnosis can work, but obviously not here.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe they did say a white man driving a
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: white pickup truck. There's a lot of white pickup trucks
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: and white men. Yes. Based on this profile, the task
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: force collected DNA swabs from over one twelve hundred white men.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Investigators received multiple citizen tips and name.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And we know we're saying white a lot.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: There's a reason because they're white.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, But I'm saying, like we're emphasizing white men for
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: a reason.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Because they're serial killers.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: No, because with part of the profile is that it
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: was this was where you were talking about he broke
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the mold because he's these were all white. His victims
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: were mainly white. I don't think all of them were. Though.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Investigators received multiple citizen tips naming a specific individual, but
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: because that suspect was black, they dismissed the tips and
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: did not test his DNA four months. The investigation was
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: further complicated because other serial killers were active in Baton
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Rouge at the same time.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because this is like insane. They said, this was
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: like the one of the weirdest things to have this
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: many serial killers operating at the same time in the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: same area. I mean, it was.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Like it's New York or LA. It's Baton Roum.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a small I mean it is a larger
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: population for the state Louisiana.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: But it is now after Katrina.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: No, but I'm saying even in general now, the population
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: is small compared to say a city in Texas, like
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Louisiana is a small population. I think there's four million
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: people in all of state Louisiana and there's six millionaire.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Baton Rouge and Lafayette.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like Charles Alexander's h tree Port.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Truth, that's it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying they're like small town they're smaller towns
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: compared to like if you were in Texas, Like all
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: of the population of Houston is more than the entire
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: state of Louisiana. So it's not that many people.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's thirty eight million in Houston the suburbs or
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: eight million, I.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, it's think it's like six to eight Last
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: time I heard it was six million, but it could
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: be eight million now I don't know anyway, So it
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: was it was absolutely. They were just in shock that
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: when they figured this out that there's three and so
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: we may have to cover the other two at some point.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Well now we're going to have to.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to have to now. So the first one.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: The first one, Sean Vincent Gillis, was a white male.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: He murdered eight women between nineteen ninety four and two
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: thousand and four. Because Shawn matched the FBI profile, his
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: crimes skewed the task Force data, causing police to treat
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: separate murder patterns as the work of the one person.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: A third killer, Jeffrey Lee Gillery, was also active. Further
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: forensic overlap and their investigation. Yes, so yes, you can
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: imagine be quite confused and people are why can't you
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: catch him?
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: It's like, why can't you people stop being zero killed?
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah? What the hell? The hell y'all down here?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know what Someone's in the drinking water
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: at the dumbs it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Might be and coming from that refinery up the road.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: So they finally got a breakthrough when a witt or
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: like someone actually survived an attack from Derek Todd Lee
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Surviving Victims to if you Will Now. In July two
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: thousand and two, a man entered the home of Diane
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Alexander under the ruse of using her phone. Now, he
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: attacked her, but Diane fought back, delaying him until he
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: was in there with her, and her son pulls up
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: outside and so he gets scared away and takes off.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: So Diane she survived. She worked with a sketch artist
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to create a composite drawing now because her case occurred
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: in a different parish. Now, if you're unfamiliar what a
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: parish is, it's the same as a county, but in
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Louisiana they're called parishes. It's the only state that does that.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: And they're based the parishes are based on the old
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: time Catholic churches in that region.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: The parish. Yes, yes, still under Napoleonic code, not English
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: law as well.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, thank you for that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: You're well.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: So the task force didn't immediately cross references into all
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: their other crimes because again he is working, you know,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: around the area and passing over into different parishes. So
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: there are absolutely desperate to get any type of lead.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: So the task force bypassed the FBI profile that they
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: sent and sent the crime scene DNA to a private
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: lab for DNA phenotyping. And so because they were like you,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: there's something wrong with your stupid hypnosis things and your profile.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: And part of the profile was because normally they they
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: killed their own. Serial killers usually stick to their own race.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: So a black serial killer would kill more likely black women,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and a white serial killer would kill white women. That's always,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's that's how they do. I mean, I
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: don't think there's any that have done that I know
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: of that are as famous as Derek Todd Lee that
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: have gone broke the mold, if you will. Unfortunately it's
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the terminal. He did break the bit the mold. So
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: he really threw off the whole FBI's ability to the basso,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the balance to call it to be able to determine
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: who was So anyways, with the results show that the
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: eighty five percent probability that the killer UH was not
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: white he actually had UH was black is what they determined. Now,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: with the white male theory disproven, investigators reviewed all the
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: tips that they were like, this can't be it, this
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: can't be him, and they yeah, and they found the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: name Derek Todd Lee and matched his photo to Diane's
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: a sketch that she had drawn from her memory. Now
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: May two thousand and three, police obtained a court order
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: for his DNA which matched the crime scenes. So now
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: we finally have the official name of the killer identified
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: as Derek Todd Lee.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: When the DNA match was confirmed, Derek Toddlee fled Louisiana
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: the US marshalls the FBI. In Louisiana, State police tracked
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: him using cell phone tower pings from a burner phone
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: he had and some wire transfers that he was trying
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: to make I guess to get some money. Derek traveled
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: north to Chicago.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: That's in Illinois, Karra, You know what I was until
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I did this or whatever. I mean, I kind of
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: knew about about Derek todd Lee, but I hadn't really
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I'd known a little bit about his crime stuff. I
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: did not realize that he ran away like he tried
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: to flee. I had no clue. I thought they just
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: picked him up.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: In sitting there eating hamburger at the past.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: They were doing them, yes.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Well, now using an alias. He was on the run
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: on the lamb, as they would say. Now, realizing authorities
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: were tracking him, he changed direction and he took a
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: bus south through Mississippi. Triangulation eventually placed him in Atlanta, Georgia.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I guess he didn't get rid of his burner phone.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: And this is where he checked into the Lakewood Motor
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Lodge under a fake name. To avoid suspicion. He hosted
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Bible studies for other guests.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just like, let me just lean into this.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: They would never say you enough about the Bible.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: They would never suspect the Bible study leader as the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: serial killer of Baton Rouge.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: On May twenty seventh, two thousand and three, Derek todd
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Lee saw his photograph broadcast on a national news segment
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: in the motel lobby. He fled his room, leaving behind
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: his clothes, boots, and a bible. Within minutes, US Marshalls
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: and Atlanta police flooded the area. Officers spotted Derek Toidlee
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: walkking down a sidewalk the or a tire shop. Agents
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: surrounded him, and Derek Toddley surrendered without any resistance.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: All right, So now that they have him in custody,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out how did he get because
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: this person? Yes, so they started to get details of
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Derek's upbringing and it gave them a better I guess
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: understanding of well, it helped put they wanted to put.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Also like they needed this for the FBI profiling as well.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Like they get all this information. That's how they continue
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to improve their ability to profile people is to try
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to understand their history, their background and where how they
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: can just put.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: All that into the AI generator.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Now I know, no, you don't even you don't even
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: need it. Yeah, so born on November fifth, Uh, we're
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: not supposed to be using AI.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Stew it's tearing up the environments.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: From what I was told, and all the people in
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: the humming, the humming, Yes, the I feel bad for
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the have you not seen the things where the their
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: bill in the data centers and it's a constant low
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: humming all the time.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I got tonight, I know, But for the.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: The regular folk, I feel so bad. They're out there
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: in the country and they'll like do their thing and
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you can just hear it constant. I don't understand how
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: they got to get away with this. I mean, if
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you have a neighborhood and it's too close to a road,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you have to build sound barrier walls, like I don't understand.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: How we looked at that one house that would have
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: had all the water in the driveway and the nine
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: to nine was right behind it.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Well, because that was probably their first but if you
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: were there, yes, if you were there first, they have
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: to go and build sound barrier walls to not reduce
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: your quality of life. I don't understand how these data
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: centers are getting away with this, Probably because it's billionaires
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: behind it or whatever, just like getting their own they're
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: getting their way. So Derek was born on November sixth,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight, in Saint Francis, Fhil, Louisiana, one of
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: our favorite places. Yes, if you are ever in that
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: area or from that area and you haven't been up there,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: definitely go there's the myrtles, the myrtles, which we've gone
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: several times. It's supposed to be haunted, it's not. And
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: then we have the Francis Hotel.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Is it Ian Francis?
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I thought it was the Francis Hotel.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I thought it was the St.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Francis in Okay, whatever it got excellent steak, go eat there.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: And then we haven't stayed there yet, though we always
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: end up saying we love the myrtles, like the myrtles
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: is so great. It's we stayed in one of those
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: little cabins. I want to go back.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, the cabins are.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Real nice cabbage are the carriage Yes, the carriage house.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: We haven't stayed the carriage house.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: The carriage house burned down, okay, but where are they
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: The carriage house they replaced with all those from a
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: ghost those yes, the ghost of somebody probably smoking a
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: cigarette by the grease bat or something where they built
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: those rooms that we stayed in, the miller rooms. The
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: carriage house was right there.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Then there's that other houses.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Because the restaurant also used to be called a carriage.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's the caretakers, the care keeper, take keeper, keeper
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: taker in whatever taker's in or something. Is that six
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: bedroom one? Oh, you can stay in. And then we stayed.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: My favorite one was those little cabins we stayed in
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: last time. That one was great.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: You didn't like staying in the main house up the staircase.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I did, but for our current situation it was much No.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: That one was fun because we were up there and
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: then they would do the ghost tours and we would
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: make noises up there whenever.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: The people came by, just walk around.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: We start walking around and kind of thump and stuff,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: and they because we didn't know if anybody knew that
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: anybody stayed up there for stairs, and they were out
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: there at night, like relate at night anyways, because there's
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: like supposed to be a haunted mirror that's right there
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: you can look into, and so when they were staying there,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: we'd like make thuds and stuff. Okay, So go to
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Saint Francisville, Louisiana. It's very nice, Derek there, No, he's
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: not so. Derek was raised by his mother after his father,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: who suffered from schizophrenia and psychosis, abandoned the family. Now,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Derek he had learning disabilities, attending special education classes and
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: dropping out a school in the eleventh grade. Now, a
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: forensic psychiatrist evaluated him and later estimated his IQ was
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: at around seventy five, which was almost to the level
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: of being where he would get assistance from I think
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: the government to even help him function in life. That's
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: how low his mental capacity was, or almost on that
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: verge of that cut off line. So anyway, so he
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: started his criminal history with voyeurism. So throughout the late
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties, police in Zachary and Saint
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: francis Ville received multiple complaints regarding Derek looking through windows. Yes,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: he was arrested for voyeurism, prowling, and stalking. Now his
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: behavior escalated over the years to include resididential burglary, criminal trespass,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and domestic violence. The problem with the peeping tom is
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: they just kind of played it off. Was you know,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Derek was like a generally good looking well yeah, but
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: he was also like generally he was pretty a good
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: looking guy and everything, and they were like, oh, he'll
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: grow out of that, was the whole thing.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: He'll grow out of it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: He's just doing silly boy things, you know, just silly things,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: just going and peeping in people's windows and stuff like that.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: No big deal anyway, So it all came down to that.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: He started with the or slowly escalate up to domestic
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: violence and where in two thousand he was convicted of
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: severe battery against his girlfriend. Now, because these early offenses
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: occurred across separate local jurisdictions, they were treated as isolated incidents,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: allowing him to basically the criminal profiles were the one
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: where I watch where they're interviewed talked about how he
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: basically was honing his skills. He started with just this,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: how do I sneak around the house, house and look
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: in a window? How do I break into a house?
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: And then all this was a hymn like practicing his.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Skills, putting it all together, Yes.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And it allowed him to do this to where he
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: got up to the point where he was breaking in
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: and murdering women.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Derek was extradited back to Louisiana and tried in two
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: thousand and four. In August of two thousand and four,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: he was found guilty of first degree murder for the
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: death of Jeralen bar DeSoto, and he was sentenced to
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: life without parole. In October two thousand and four, he
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: was convicted of first degree murder for the death of
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Charlotte Murray Pace, where the DNA under her fingernails proved
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: his identity and he received the death penalty for that.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Derek Tidley, that.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Was the one that was extremely brutal, the eighty one
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: stabbings and stuff like that. It was particularly horrendous.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Now he Derek Tidley did remain on death row in
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Louisiana State Penitentiary ann INNGLA for over ten years. He
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: died at the age of forty seven on January twenty
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: first to twenty sixteen from complications of heart disease before
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: his execution could be carried out. Because he was trying
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: to get off death row and he was doing all
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: kinds of stuff to try and get out of jail
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: because he had heart issues.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and now so I'm sure that his IQ
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: being that low, he probably tried to use that.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so his attorneys were trying to get him
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: out of jail, basically definitely get him off the death
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: row and then see what they could do. Right.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: People upset that he died in jail or they didn't
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: care because he was serial killer. You know, like sometimes
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: they'll get up, like the public will get upset and say,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: we you should have let him out because he needed
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Recall anybody being upset that Derek Toddley was not released.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know some people because of.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: This medical I mean, I'm sure there were some people
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: that are like, I can't believe he held that poor
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: man in jail. Yes, that's why, that's why we don't
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: need the death penalty appeals process to last this long.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: A guy could die. You got to get in there.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: You got the DNA, you got all the things you need.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, but what if you make a mistake.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: On two or three different victims.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not talking about him specifically. I'm just
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: talking about I would be.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: You better know.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I'm saying with the DNA that they got on Derek Toddley.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: We know he does, Yes, we know he did what
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: he did.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: So he wrote should have rolled Old Sparky rode the
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: light and whatever you want to say, well.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Before at being at the Gola rodeo.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, being a barrel clown at the end.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I know, I can't believe we never went now we
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: can go there. We're back down there close by.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Back to prison break. Whenever we go, we're.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Gonna Did you see that thing? Which which prison was
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: that where the whole prison had a riot and took
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: up They took over the prison here in like.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: The last week.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: I have not seen this.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: You haven't seen that where they took over the prison? No, okay,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: well I'll have to find it.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I usually see some crazy stuff.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You usually the one telling me, oh yeah, like
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: have you seen this or whatever? Anyways, do you have
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: our y'all need Jesus.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm gonna have to find it though, because I
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: had a page opened up looking for Kelly Clarkson's hometown.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Or it was a North Carolina prison, Yes, North Carolina.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Eighty inmates overpowered three guards at North Carolina.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Jel.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: The siege ended hours later. Wow, they need Jesus.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: To do.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: It was the Birdie Martin. The three guards and eighty
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: eight inmates were inside the Birdie Martin Regional Detention Center
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: in Windsor when the takeover began at fought at about
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: five am. Such an ungodly hour. Jesus, let's be a.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Let's hey man, you're gonna take over the present with us. No, No,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: at what time?
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: No, absolutely, let's be respectful around like ten am at
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: least if we're going to be doing that.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to eat. I need to digest my
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: breakfast and take a gromper and then you to the present.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, ladies, he's available.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: They know I get all kinds of DMS.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: All right, anyways, go ahead and do your y'all. They
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: took two guards captive, and the third guard escaped. Negotiations
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: led to the release of the two guards along with
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: eighty inmates, leaving only eight inmates inside. Blah blah blah
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: blah blah. Yeah crazy. What did they accomplish with that? Nothing?
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: But they think they were going to accomplish.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Why is there eighty eight prisoners in three guards? Is
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: what I want to know. What kind of ratios is that?
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I would not be signed up to work there?
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you got all your stuff in lockdown
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: that they I guess they didn't at the time.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: No, obviously not. All right, go ahead and do your
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: y'all need Jesus, are you ready?
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, I amy, aren't y'all naked at some point? Well? Yeah,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: nude guy is what the nude guy said to cops
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: after allegedly attacking a man and his dog Florida or
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: not Florida.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: A naked man Florida.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: From Yahoo News.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Wow, way to give y'ahoo.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Stephan is buried Monday, June eighth, twenty six I'm trying
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: to figure out where this is.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: You're the only person that's been to Yahoo News.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: I think this is in Massachusetts. Ludlow A Ludlow man
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: will not be arraigned Monday after his arrest on assault,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: animal cruelty and in decent exposure charges. I don't know,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: maybe yeah, who got this wrong? I mean I would
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: think he would be arraigned. Police say Alexander Morano.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Who knew Stewart?
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: This is like they probably have like one staff writer.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: They're covering everything from politics to sports.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Hey, AI write this story on this guy, Please say
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Alexander Morano. Mayor Rhannon Okay whatever, age thirty four attacked
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: a man and his dog Sunday and was completely nude
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: during the incident. According to the report, a man walking
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: his eight year old pit bull Diesel called nine one
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: one just before nine nine thirty in the morning. This
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: happened Kara to report a naked man had charged out
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: of the woods at him on Ludlow Mills River Walk,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: near the town's center. This has happened in the town center.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: He allegedly threatened him, claiming he had a shotgun, and
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: he choked Diesel the dog during the alleged assault.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, death penalty right there. He wouldn't talk about why.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: He's lucky he didn't get the death penalty. Diesel's a
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: damn pit bull. How do you choke a pit bull's neck.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: It's all muscle right there.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. Yeah, your hands would get real tired.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Guy's taking his life in his own hand.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody up north talking about no Florida
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: manning anymore after this nonsense. You guys go, don't even
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: come at us down here in the South with all
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: your You guys got some crazies too, Okay.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: When officers arrived, the alleged victim pointed to an area
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: further down the path. According to the police report, victim
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: then pointed me in the north direction towards State Street
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: and pointed to what appeared to be a white, fully
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: naked male who just popped up from the grassy area,
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: the police officer said. Moreno then ducked back down, according
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: to officers, but emerged soon after with his hands up.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: He did not have the shotgun that he allegedly told
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: the guy he was going to shoot, and no weapon
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: could be found in the immediate area. They did find
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: his clothing, watch, and wallet in the area. When police
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: asked why Moreno was naked, he responded, what do you think?
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: He responded with.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Karl, weren't we all naked at some point?
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Yes. Moreno, who owns a home improvement business according to
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: his social media presence, was charged with disorderly conduct, threat
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: to see.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I'm my whole thing with like researching the people that
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: were buying our house from is no different than what
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: these journalists are going on Facebook and seeing what naked
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: bands up to.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Disorderly conduct, threat to use a deadly weapon, open and
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: gross lewdness, animal cruelty, and indecent exposure. I don't know
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: where you get opening gross ludness and indecent exposure from.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Was he indecent or was it opening gross udness?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: It was indecent, but based on what they saw, it
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: was open and gross.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: It's like insulted in.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: It's like what they do.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: It's like, you're chelking my dog and I gotta see
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: your brain on starfish.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Come on, dude, it's just so gross.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: It's like whenever you die, if you're like fat and
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: you die and they tell they put in the cause
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: of death is like morbid.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Obeeziers. I was like, can we just not kick me
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: while I'm down.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: To say hard at that?
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Just make up something other than oh they were too fat.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Neither the man nor his dog suffered serious injuries, according
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: to police hamp In. The County Sheriff's Department spokesman Robert
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Rizuto Confirmer remain Moreno was in the agency's custody in
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Ludlow and that he is not expected to appear in
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: court on Monday. After his arrest, officer said he was
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: speaking rapidly and incoherently. They speculated he was in the
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: throes of a drug induced or mental health episode. Do
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: you think our suspect has had a series of run
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: ins with the law over the past year, and has
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: three other cases pending in various district courts, according to
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: public records. On February twenty fifth, he was arrested by
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: Ludlow Police and charge with driving under the influence of
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: drugs and alcohol, his second such offense. Police encountered his
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: car after he had rammed it into a snow bank
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: and was driving on three tires, according to a police report.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: During his that arrest, Morano kept insisting he was a
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: child of God. Reach for comment about Sunday's arrest, his
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: attorney in the OUI case stated Morano had a good
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: relationship with his family. We are going to try as
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: hard as we can to get him all the support
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: he needs, said lawyer Joseph Bernard, without commenting on the
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: new charges. In April, he was also arrested operating with
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: a suspended license in Springfield District Court and again in
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: May in Dudley District Court. So mister Moreno has some issues.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: You thinks too few.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Anyways, I'm just happy to.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: His home improvement company is going to be tanking there shortly.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just happy to know that they have their own
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: problems up there that they.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: And they keep flattening out. This guy should be in
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: the psych war somewhere or JS.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Probably he's gotten, aren't we Can you imagine, God, can't
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: you can you imagine if you would let him come
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: in your home, and like you found out that that
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: was your handyman that came in and like read did.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Your bathroom or something.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I would have to like disinfect her because who knows
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: what he did.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: If he's like okay, all right, I.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Think we're okay pleasuring him.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I think we're done this now?
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Is this?
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: This is Lewed engrosser, gross and open whatever you said
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: early indecent, gross and open. All right. On that note,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go, Okay, do you have anything.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Else to add?
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Oh? I got all the kinds of things I could add.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, anyways, it's late, we got we gotta get
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: to sleep, So anyways, I guess we will see you
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: next time. By everyone, say bye, ste.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Tell't you know it's bad to be superstihot mind? Nothing
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: else is working. It's pretty hurning sick.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: This worthy cand