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But about Bound Bangor management Fantasy hockey
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podcast. Woo, wow, wow, wow.
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Well, Oh my God, you got me half.
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Who is that you welcome into Venger Management, the fantasy
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hockey podcast with Kevin and Josh once again and the ghost of
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Jakey. Josh, can you give us a ghostly
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woo woo Jackie? Oh my God, it is still the duo
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here today. Jackie will be here back on the
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next episode. But welcome.
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And everybody, we are going to go on talk about hot topics and
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boy, do we have some hot topics and also some mailback
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questions, some spicy questions that were asked in the Discord.
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They're not so spicy. Don't get too excited, but
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they're gonna be fun. We're going to cover them, but.
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I'm down over there, OK? This episode is going to go live
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Friday morning. So as you listen to this, it
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will be trade deadline day. Now will we be covering trade
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deadline questions? Not on this episode, but on the
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next episode will be covering everything trade deadline
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related. I'm so excited.
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I don't know how I'm supposed to do like anything this week other
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than just refresh my computer like every like 2 minutes.
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It's so distracting. But like, it's kind of nice
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because like, like my job lately has been really busy and so like
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I can go a couple hours without, you know, refreshing because I'm
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like so busy and then. You have to look forward to.
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Exactly, exactly. It's much more satisfying
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getting like, you know, refreshing after a couple of
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hours and you actually see some stuff as opposed to every like 2
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minutes. Yeah.
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And even when I trade happens, you get those like crumbs,
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right? It's like I'm hearing rumors
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about this. I'm hearing like rumblings about
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that. And then like, you'll hear the
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trade happened and they're like, leave, make every piece of the
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trade like they'll announce over the next couple hours.
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Anyways, I'm excited. OK.
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But before we get into it, because we got some some hot
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topics that are not trade deadline related, but if you
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have to make your predictions, you know, where do you think
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that like the main pieces are going?
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If you look, you know, last episode really touched on Robert
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Collins Buffalo. Thomas to Buffalo I'm putting.
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Trocheck to Carolina, I'm putting.
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Kadri to Colorado, I'm putting. These are just like rapid fire
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random one lineated kings. I saw who else is on the on the
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block that I could rapid fire where they're going to Kairu.
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That one. I yeah, that's a that's a tough
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one. That's that's a really tough
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one. I saw tippet to Boston.
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Yeah, but where do I think is is.
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But I saw something that someone said that like either Thomas or
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Cairo getting traded, but they doubt both.
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Hmm. So I feel like Thomas to Buffalo
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maybe stops a Kyrie trade, but potentially, yeah, maybe.
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You know what, maybe Kyrie to Seattle.
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Seattle was looking for a. Forward Did you see the the
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rumors of Arbor Jackie to Calgary?
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I did not see that. I saw Jack at the Calgary and
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people were saying like we might get know we as in, you know, the
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Canadians might get like white cloud back or something, which
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would be a good like hockey move.
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But I guess people love wasn't exciting.
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Show like it's not as you move but like in terms.
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Of yeah, I guess it's like, it's like a when we got like
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carrying, yeah, like it's like. And he was sick not.
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Exciting, but yeah, 100%. Yeah.
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I guess like, I just like getting rid of a fan favorite
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like Jack Guy. I feel like you need to get
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someone a bit more exciting back.
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But like, in terms of pure hockey value, it seems like a
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fair deal. You know, guys getting scratched
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half the games anyways. But it's my wife's not gonna be
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happy about that. No, no, she's like one of her
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favorites. So really troll track to
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Carolina instead of Detroit. I think so.
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I mean, it's gonna be one of those two, but I don't know,
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Just I feel like it makes so much sense to Carolina, and
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Carolina has so much like calf space and I feel like they've
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got a lot of assets. So I feel like they have a
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better shot than Detroit. And I feel like they also kind
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of like the GM just like, has the balls to do it, you know,
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like, like, I'm just so like careful and whatever.
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And like, he ends up like missing out on some, like the
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big names. If you have to, you have to pick
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one. Like oddball, Like we're not, we
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don't really hear anything here, but if you could foreshadow what
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trait to happen that would be great for fantasy, what would
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you pick? I already know what your answer
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is. Dougie Hamilton to San Jose.
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Yeah, there's a my fantasy team. That's probably the best thing.
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Um, like I mentioned, the ticket to Boston would be great for my
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team in terms of like just random ones that I just like my
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team is just one most plugged into in terms of really random
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stuff that makes one of the Buffalo goalies.
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I would love for UPL to get traded because I've Alex Lyon.
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So I think I don't think think so either like like full like
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fully yeah, based on like what I actually think I don't think
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it's gonna happen, but I would love it if it did if they truly
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Colton Ellis or something yeah, I think so.
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He wants to play one for like a hot SEC and now he's lying to
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power play 2. Apparently they can't agree to a
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contract extension. I I really have no idea where he
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would end up like I feel like a playoff.
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He would love to have him. I feel great, He.
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Could be like a Detroit type of player.
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Yeah. Or Seattle.
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Or Anaheim. I can feel like I can see those,
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yeah. I just feel like Seattle, like
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they really need like a scorer, you know, like.
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Surely score is. Really great.
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But yeah, but it's more like if I'm Seattle, I'd rather like a
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Kairu like go after like that kind of player.
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But yeah, I'm super, super psyched and I'm excited for the
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next news episode we do where we could finally talk about
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everything in the future that's about to happen.
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What about the spitting chicklets?
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Did you see the rumor they started?
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I mean, I don't say they started only a rumor.
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Maybe there's some ability to do it, I don't know.
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But they said they heard some rumblings or they were putting
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it out there. I don't put words in their
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mouth. Basically, they talked about all
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their podcasts. Brady could Chuck for Jason
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Robertson. Hi, that would be insane.
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I think that there's zero chance.
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That has 0. Chance like I think like
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negative chance that happens, but but that would be actually
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crazy. That's the kind of blockbuster I
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would love that. That's what you know, the tree.
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That line gets so hyped every year.
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I hype it up in my head and I feel like it's always
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underwhelming, but I'm excited. I still get excited every year
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because you never know. And also like you throw in the
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fantasy implications and even like the most like minor trade
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could you know, could have relevance to you.
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So I still find it super exciting, but but I don't think
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that's going to happen. I can't wait to do a trade
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recap. So it's going to be.
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It's gonna be. Alright, yeah, but anyways,
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let's get into our speaker. You type 1 to.
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Here it is already Discord please join.
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We're about to cross 300 members, but not seriously guys,
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You could be number. Three imagine that claim to
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Let's do it. That was great.
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I I've tried doing that that should be in the past and I can
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never pull it off So so thank. You it takes a special talent.
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It does, and I don't have it, but I've got other, I've got
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other gifts, like coming up with hot topics for us.
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You're pretty good, too. Yeah, I am.
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I have been called the songbird of our generation.
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So people have. Yeah.
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Let's get into the hot topics. We spoke about this a bit on the
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news episode. I didn't have him in the news
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episode specifically so that's why I put him here.
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Have to talk about it. Darcy Kemper.
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Can the coaching change turn him into not a complete pile of
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trash? No.
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No. OK, next topic No.
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Listen, Darcy Kemper has been a hot topic not only in our mind,
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but in the Discord server as well.
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I feel like everybody's basically asking for permission
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to drop Darcy Kemper and a lot of.
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Those people are kind of like in the disk are kind of like
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waiting for me to drop him because.
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People are asking on your roster, Josh.
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Yeah, so as I get in there, I'm like, look, I still have him.
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I feel like at this point, you have to wait and see if this new
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coat, like he hasn't played yet under the new coach.
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He hasn't played yet post trade deadline.
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We'll see if they add or whatever.
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Right now I'm super happy he's sick because I was able to toss
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him on my IR Plus and it's just an extra week of leeway to, you
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know, not have to drop him without having to him to, you
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know, actively sabotage my team. But but yeah, no, I don't have
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high hopes for him. But like also Ellie has such an
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easy like strength of schedule this season that I just feel
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like I can't drop him at this point.
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But I will come playoff time if that.
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Like we've got the nice thing is we have a bit of a sample size
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post trade deadline before the playoffs start.
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If he has like another bad week, then I will easily cut him
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because when his playoffs you can't mess around with like
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hoping for things to turn around.
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So I'm going to have to see something from him in the near
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future when he comes back from this, from this illness, or else
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I'm going to have to to cut him. I mean, you're talking also like
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we have to put it into context that Josh is in fourth place in
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our league. Like he's not confirmed the
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playoff spot, but like the odds are like 90 plus percent that is
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at least going to be the last in the playoffs.
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So we had the luxury of being like holding him through these
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bad performances. If you're trying to make the
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playoff push, you know you're the first, you know you're the
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first seed outside of the playoffs trying to get in, and
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you need some reliable starts. If you have to cut like a Darcy
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Kemper and pick up like an Alex Line or UPL to get like 2 solid
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quality starts, just have a chance to make the playoffs.
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I don't hate that guys. If you're in a points league,
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absolutely. I think it's even easier to cook
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temper because the results have been so bad for the categories
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that's supposed to thrive, because his percentages are
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usually really good. That's what I'm trying to hold.
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If you have the luxury of touching on your IR plus, please
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do um, maybe by the time this episode goes live, he'll be back
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and healthy and you'll have at least one game under your belt.
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But I really do think better they should be ahead.
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We've seen Kemper play at last year.
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He was the second best goalie in terms of like metrics, only
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behind Hellboy and Hellboy had an MVP season.
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So we know he has it in him. It's just this LA team is not in
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the coach is bad and now he's gone.
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So it's tough. But I I put him in the boat of
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like willing to cut if I need production right now.
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Yeah, I think that's a great way to put it.
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Like we've listed kind of all the reasons why he should have
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potential to turn it around rest of the season.
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But like, like heaven said, there's just sometimes you don't
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have that. You know, the closer we get to
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the end of the season, closer we get to the playoffs, you don't
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have as much as much wiggle room.
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So you gotta do what you gotta do.
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And at the end of the day, you can't you can't be thinking
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about name value this close to the playoffs.
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You got to think about what's best for your team.
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I think on that kind of this is a very similar situation.
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We've got Aiden Hill as the next hot topic.
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How long do we keep holding him with these terrible
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performances? I mean this is pretty much I
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feel like exact same situation is Kemper except Vegas is
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supposed to be a much better team than LA is but he'll I feel
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like has been even worse than Kemper is somehow.
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Yeah, this. And it's not what you're hoping
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for, right? Like I think I put him in the
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same kind of category as like all Mark.
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Feels like you went into the season with a lot of
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expectations. You knew maybe they weren't the
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best school, but they were on a team that was going to win more
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than they lose and that the percentages might hover around
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slightly above 900 or 900. But maybe you win 5055% of the
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games. But really the quality has not
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been there to consistency is not been there.
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And the winds have been harder to come by as well lately.
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So I put him also in the category of like willing to cut
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to move forward. But just like Kemper, I think
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there's a lot of reasons to be optimistic for the future why
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this situation should work. Like don't forget Vegas.
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You know, they haven't necessarily been the healthiest
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team coming coming back from the Olympics either.
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Like Marner was sick. I call missed a few games.
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You know, Stone is now hurt. So things to take into account.
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But nonetheless, the performances have not been there
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were trade deadline. Might be shocked if if Vegas
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makes a big bold move for us, Bennington to Vegas or Bobrovsky
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to Vegas. Like would I be shocked?
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No. Do I think it's plausible?
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No, but Vegas have surprised us in the past.
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Like I feel like I feel like Aiden Hills, the guy they want a
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cup with and they will give him the leeway to get things done.
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But if they trade for a golden Hills going the other way,
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probably. And if that's the case, then
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maybe he has success wherever she goes.
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Like would I be interested in Eden Hill on Saint Louis?
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Not at all Would I be Shouldn't Eden Hill on the Florida?
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Don't think so either. But honestly, more situations.
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Not Louis. Yeah, but his situation is not
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gonna get better than Vegas. No, he can't pull it together on
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Vegas. Then him getting traded is not
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gonna make me more interested in him.
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But yeah, I think it's in terms of, like, what to do if you have
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him. I think it's kind of similar to
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the Kemper one, where like, if you have the luxury to hold and
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see if you can turn it around for playoffs, then then you
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hold. But if you're fighting for, you
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know, for a spot and also like the tough thing is there's an
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emergency. A lot of really solid low
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percentage goalies. I feel like the issue with these
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low percentage goalies is they're mostly in tandems, but
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they're putting up great numbers.
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Like you mentioned the Buffalo split.
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You could talk about the Columbus split.
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You know, like I'm trying to think there's definitely some a
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few other teams that have like some of these tandem where
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they're putting up really solid, solid numbers.
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Off the top of my head, those were the two that Pittsburgh to
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mind. Yeah, Pittsburgh exactly.
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She loves like so like these guys are all like they're not
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giving you the quantity that like a Hiller super our giving
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you, but like the quality is so strong and so much better than
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like what you're getting that I feel like I'm more willing to
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drop one of these guys and especially if you grab one of
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them. Like let's say we talk about
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like the Pittsburgh 1. You just said they have a 435 in
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week 21 to 23. So like week 4 you're getting
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two games from a camper or a hill.
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You're probably getting two games also.
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So the quantity is just the same.
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So like that's something to keep in mind when you're like making
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these moves. So I feel a lot more comfortable
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dropping these guys because of the emergence of some of these
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low owned goalies with high quality.
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Yep, well said. So, so I mean, this kind of ties
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into the next hot topic. We've got Alex Lyon slash 6K
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UPL. We'll go back to looking in.
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Who's the starter looking exactly who's the starter?
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Is it worth holding if it's a 5050 or either of them getting
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traded? Like what's the deal here?
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What do you think? We're going to find out today if
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they're getting traded or not, But I've been two days, I've
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been pretty adamant that I don't think either of these guys are
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getting traded. I think Buffalo, the only thing
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they're doing is going to acquire players.
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Maybe Robert Thomas gets official and, um, you know,
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hopefully, hopefully that, you know, moves the needle for them.
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But I think Buffalo is a strong team this year.
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I think they're finally, they know they're gonna be in the
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playoff picture. I said earlier this season that
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I I'll believe it when I see it and I'm starting to see it.
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I see the light at the end of the tunnel.
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I believe, I believe early on. The both were going up and I
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think once it gets to a playoff season, the rocket ship becomes
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rocket ship. Rocket ship.
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There we goes. Been awhile since both the
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rocket ship. Yeah, you already here first,
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but I'm happy holding either of these guys to be honest.
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Like we playing a bangers categories leagues where, you
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know, wins goals against average, save percentage, saves,
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shutouts. So like the quality of your
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performance actually does matter, right, Because it
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influences your save percentage or goals against average.
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You're holding an Eden Hill or Darcy Kemper.
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It feels like you're going into your mattress basically
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conceding 3 categories, 4 categories off the bat.
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Yeah, You know that with a, with a UPL or a Alex line, you're
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going to get a solid start. I'm very happy with that.
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I mean, it just depends on the structure of your team.
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But just, it's just like such a relief going into a match
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knowing your, you don't have to be stressed about every little
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shot on that or anything, you know?
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Yeah, it is crazy how brutal it is when you have one of these
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bullies who just lets in every single shot that goes that goes
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towards them. But yeah, so I think it's 100%
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of 5050. I think you could predict every
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single game who's going to start.
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It's just an alternating back and forth until they prove
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otherwise. There's no reason to think that
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it's not that. Ever since PPL came back from
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injury after Olympics, it's been a straight back and forth.
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So I would just assume that going forward, I think it's
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highly unlikely either one of them gets treated.
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If one of them does, the guy who stays on Buffalo I think becomes
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one of the best pickups in the league.
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Probably already rostered. But but if they're not, then
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that would be a immediate ad. And yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm I
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believe it. We're we're late enough in the
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season that I think Buffalo is the real deal.
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They're like 5th place in the league right now and they in
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their last like 30 games. There's something like 25.
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Four in one. It's insane, right?
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Who would have thought? The Buffalo Sabres.
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Yeah, I mean, look, you stockpile enough high-end picks
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and, and, you know, like you look at their like defence and
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you look at their like forwards and it's just all top 10 picks,
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you know, like a couple first overalls like that helps, you
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know, So, yeah, it's crazy. I'm old enough to remember
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earlier this season when it was really bad for Buffalo and
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Darlene was taking a leave of absence and Tate Thompson was
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getting asked questions if he sees his future in Buffalo.
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And yeah, you know, Josh Norris was I the whole season and Zach
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Benson was out. And yeah, like, it feels like
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those days were three seasons ago, it feels like.
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Yeah, it's it's crazy how much can change over the course of
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the season. But but yeah, so if you have
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either one of these guys, I'm happy with them.
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This is one of the few situations where I feel like I'm
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OK holding both because just did such high quality that I feel
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like you could just take all those Buffalo games and be
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pretty happy with. Them do you see one much better
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than the other? People have been asking me in
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the discord all the time like who do you like better, Lion or
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UPL? And I keep saying like I like
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QPL more, but no Josh and Jake like Alex lying more.
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He has the bigger sample size of like the stronger quality of
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play. But in my mind, I can't shake
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the fact that I think you PPL was supposed to be the starter
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going into the season. He's playing to that level.
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So I feel like he has a quote UN quote edge there.
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But like line has been excellent, excellent as well.
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So both guys have just been performing.
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They're each getting one game after another, so.
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The way I would say it, because like, the only situation where
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this question is really relevant is let's say both are available
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on waivers and you want to pick up one of them but not both.
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Yeah, The way I see it is map out, go look on the game log,
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look at their schedule. Like I said, you could tell
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exactly which games each of them is gonna play.
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Just look at the one who's going to have the easier games the
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rest of the season and take that one.
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Because otherwise, to me, they're the exact same.
18:48
They're both playing fantastic hockey on a fantastic team and
18:51
they're gonna get the same amount of starts.
18:53
So that's how I would choose which one I prefer.
18:54
I haven't done the mapping yet. I probably should because I've
18:57
got Lion, so I'm going to, over the next day or two, kind of
19:00
look at which games he's got rest of the season.
19:02
But that's how I would choose if you have to make that decision.
19:05
Yeah. And with how do we shake out
19:07
when there's an odd number of games, one of them will get more
19:09
games than the other. So that can definitely,
19:10
definitely influence your decision as well.
19:13
Absolutely. So yeah, I was actually, I'm
19:15
actually gonna go look into that like later tonight because it's
19:17
going to be very relevant for me.
19:19
So So yeah, that's a good point. Alright, next we've got Matthew
19:23
Schaefer. Can he keep this up rest of
19:25
season? How highly does he rank among
19:27
defensemen next year? So obviously we usually talk
19:30
about like this year, but I'm just curious, like where?
19:32
Because like you just went up against him.
19:34
He put up another unreal week. I mean, he's been unreal all
19:36
year. Like he's winning the Calder,
19:38
right? There's no one even remotely in
19:39
the conversation. I mean, I think it's a no
19:41
brainer. It's.
19:43
Like Seneca is also pretty sick, but like it just what he's doing
19:47
as a defenseman is just I know, I know.
19:49
So I think there's a zero chance he doesn't win the Calder.
19:51
And I'm curious like what you think of his rest of season
19:55
outlook, but also what you think of his like next year, like
19:57
where you would rank among defensemen?
19:58
I mean, whenever we talk about Schaefer, I get like a pit in my
20:02
stomach and I feel guilty because in the off season,
20:05
before the season started, we had like a conversation about
20:07
Calder and it was like early in the offseason and I didn't put
20:10
Shafer on my list because we didn't even know it was gonna
20:12
play in the NHL at that point. Yeah, that was like, I, I feel
20:15
like if you, if I knew he was playing, I put him on this list,
20:17
but because there was uncertainty, I'm gonna put all
20:20
these other guys before him and then this guys gonna win the
20:22
caller and he wasn't even on our list.
20:23
Like I, I feel bad. So holding myself and check
20:26
there. But also give me a little bit of
20:28
context that it was early enough in the season that we didn't
20:31
even know he was on the roster yet.
20:33
But man, this kid is insane. Like I just played against him
20:35
during the Olympic break. So he had six games against me
20:37
and he had like, I think he had five goals, 7 points or
20:40
something. And I'm just like this guys
20:42
defenseman, housing, scoring all these goals, all my fantasy
20:45
team. It's reminiscent of Matthew
20:46
Olivia against me, except this guy's actually good.
20:50
Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, although I'm not playing
20:53
against him at all anymore this year.
20:54
Yeah, yeah. It's I think next year he's a
20:59
top 10 fantasy defenseman minimum, right?
21:01
Like we sure he's gonna go ahead of the guys aging out like the
21:04
yo sis, could you see the fox? I'll just say I was about to
21:08
say, could you see him going out on fox?
21:10
Like I could see that. I mean, yeah, with how bad the
21:13
ranges are and like next year, they're not gonna have the same
21:15
playoff schedule to to be a boost to them.
21:17
So I could see him going higher than Fox next year.
21:20
I probably take him above Fox next year.
21:23
Who else? Who are some other top names
21:26
case you've got like the the usual suspects you've got Macar
21:28
coin, Hughes. Yeah.
21:29
Risky Shard. Yeah, that's gonna be like,
21:34
yeah, obviously you got like Dolly and usually like holding
21:37
down #5 there, but then what do you got, like Sanders chicken,
21:41
You've got like Chikurin Shafer. I feel like he's in the
21:45
conversation with those guys. Yeah, like.
21:47
I think it's gonna be more about how optimistic do we feel about
21:50
the Islanders because I don't think any of us pictured them to
21:53
be this good this late into the season.
21:55
Like, they've been a competitive team all year.
21:57
And it just feels like they're breaking the mold a little bit
21:59
of how we view the Islanders as just like this defensive team
22:02
that wins 10 games. I mean, like I was going to say
22:06
like, I don't get how they're suddenly good, but then, you
22:08
know, you suddenly you get like, you know, Calder winning
22:11
defenseman at look for free in the draft and yeah, no, no,
22:15
obviously your team is gonna have look a lot different,
22:17
right. Last year the number one defence
22:19
was Tony DeAngelo. So like.
22:22
Is it actual goals? Yeah, exactly.
22:24
Like bullhorn fat, you know, like having a resurgence.
22:27
Mat Barzal is having a resurgence and these these guys
22:29
are not, you know, like they're gonna be here next year.
22:31
Like so I think the the Islanders could be like
22:34
surprise, have like a surprising outlook.
22:35
I like classic coach. Obviously Sorokin's a top tier,
22:38
like one of the best goalies in the league.
22:40
So yeah, I think I think Schaefer next years are going to
22:43
be really interesting. I'm always a bit wary of that
22:46
sophomore slump, you know, but I don't put too much stock into
22:49
it. But like if there's a safer bet
22:51
than maybe I go with the safer that.
22:53
Schaefer, Lane Hudson for next year.
22:56
That's a that's a fantastic. One.
22:57
Yeah, right. I feel like if it comes down to
23:00
it, I'm gonna go with Hudson just because I'm a Habs fan and
23:04
and I just think his points potential is higher and.
23:06
I have to back caller winning defenseman.
23:08
Yeah. Yeah, when was the last time
23:10
that ever happened? Because like defence would never
23:13
win callers anyways, right? So.
23:15
Yeah, Now this is actually, it's crazy.
23:17
I think that's a great one. But so, yeah, so they're kind of
23:19
all in that. Like I view them as somewhere
23:21
between 6:00 and 10:00 of defensemen.
23:24
But yeah, it's crazy to think about.
23:26
I'm sure he was snagged super late and all non keeper leagues,
23:29
obviously keeper league. I'm sure he was super high.
23:31
But yeah. All right.
23:32
Lastly, talking about Calder favorites, we've got Beckett,
23:35
Seneca. Is it Seneca or Seneca?
23:37
I don't, I don't know. Please, I know we have a few
23:39
Anaheim Ducks fans in the discord.
23:41
Like please correct us and let us know what the proper.
23:43
Let's see how pronunciation is. And how do you pronounce
23:47
pronunciation? Yeah, no.
23:50
Once when someone corrects us, we will do the correct one.
23:53
But until then, I will keep butchering it.
23:55
But yeah. So anyways, is he the real deal?
23:57
Can he keep this up rest of season?
23:59
I mean, how do you not think that this kid is the real deal
24:02
at this point, right? I feel like we thought we
24:03
touched on him a little bit last episode and the news and
24:06
updates, but he's, I feel like he's been producing kind of
24:10
under the radar for the last few months.
24:12
Feel like we're giving him flowers a little bit, but we're
24:14
not actually, you know, giving him the reputation of a guy that
24:16
delivers. He's delivering.
24:19
No, he's, he's been unreal. He's been he's on power play 1
24:21
now and I feel like if it was, if it wasn't performing so well,
24:26
I would be like, oh, that's not a lock.
24:27
Once entered, guys come back like grand whatever.
24:29
But like when he's performing this well, they have a smart
24:31
enough coach that like the coach isn't gonna just bump him off
24:33
because he's young like he's gonna play who was being
24:36
successful. This team is second place in the
24:38
Pacific could easily become first place.
24:41
And I think that he's going to have a fantastic rest season.
24:44
I was really interested in buying any of these like top
24:47
ducks guys because I think they have such an unreal schedule the
24:50
rest of the season. So I'm, I really like he's,
24:54
what, 46% owned? Yeah, 46 or 48 like.
24:58
Look, obviously like, like some leaves are shallower and you're
25:01
not gonna grab him, you know? But like, I would seriously
25:03
consider picking him up in leagues where he's available.
25:06
I think just think he has a lot of upside and you don't have to
25:09
bank on the upset right now because the production is
25:11
already there, right. So just take what he's giving
25:13
you and run with it. And we've talked about, you
25:16
know, the Anaheim schedule end of year 2, how we both like
25:19
those. So I I feel like I wish she was
25:23
more on my radar earlier this year, but the guy who picked him
25:26
up an hourly picked him up before he kind of blew up.
25:28
It was like a random. Stream and then you know who
25:30
actually picked him up first. Who picked up?
25:32
Was it Jakey? It was Jakey because he's never
25:35
wrong. He's just early and it's crazy.
25:39
He picked him up. He like, you know, had that hot
25:41
streak, then it fizzled out. Then he put up some zeros for
25:44
awhile. Jakey dropped him and then
25:45
someone else picked him up and now he's been killing it.
25:47
So it's just it's crazy how that always happens.
25:50
But I should just, you know, I should honestly start like a
25:53
list of every time Jake picks someone up.
25:54
I'll be like, pick this guy up in a month when you have jiggy
25:57
jobs. If you know like, I wonder how
25:58
successful would be with that. Probably very successful.
26:01
I mean, look at all the guys that you like.
26:03
Every pickup he makes is such a classic J pick up.
26:05
You know, like, he just picked up like, Maverick Bork.
26:07
He picked up Matt Savoy. Yeah.
26:09
Like, it's, it's crazy. Like they're just so classic.
26:13
He loves like the young guys so. Anyway, it's too early.
26:16
He likes it. He'll take being too early and
26:18
all these guys just to be on time for one of them.
26:20
Yeah, exactly. He'll always be like, see I told
26:23
you they were good and like, yeah, but you like you picked
26:25
them up too early and then you dropped them so you didn't get
26:26
to benefit from it. But you know, he's a great scout
26:30
for sure. Alright, let's get into our
26:32
questions for this week. Not too many, so we could we can
26:34
go into them a bit. Redican on Discord asked With
26:38
the trade trade deadline looming, who do you guys predict
26:40
wins the Stanley Cup? I mean, I wish we had a clearer
26:44
picture on all the moves finally finalized.
26:47
So hard to say right before the deadline.
26:48
I'd rather guess. I'd rather predict after the
26:50
deadline, you know. I mean, listen, maybe revisit
26:53
this question right after as well.
26:54
But right now, if I had to make a pick, I feel like it's hard to
26:58
go against Colorado, but I really feel like that power play
27:00
is gonna is gonna hurt them come playoff time.
27:03
Like we know, we know, we always say.
27:04
Anything Colorado wins it. Like if they don't figure out
27:07
the power play it'll be hard to see them do it.
27:10
Now the other. Thing they make it to the out of
27:12
their division honestly. Wow, really?
27:15
I think that they're, when they play in the second round against
27:18
Dallas or Minnesota, I think the I think the other team is gonna
27:21
beat. Them I think dollars could
27:22
definitely take them like I did the last year.
27:24
So I think Minnesota has a real shot as well.
27:28
Who Who was high on Minnesota this year and who was low?
27:32
On Minnesota this year, they treat for Quinn Hughes OK.
27:34
That's that's insane. OK, I mean, they were pretty
27:37
good before quite used too. So I'm just.
27:39
Also, it's my wife's fault. It's always somebody else's
27:44
fault that's. Yeah, exactly.
27:45
No, but that's like, yeah. So who's your prediction?
27:48
Then I mean, I feel like I feel the team in the West are way
27:51
it's more top heavy in the West and then in the east is like
27:54
super well balanced. Feels like 1 to 8, whatever, but
27:56
I think, is it critical Tampa? No, that's, I feel like that's a
28:01
that makes a lot of. Sense yeah, I mean there gonna
28:02
be 1 of the favorites I'm sure. I haven't looked at the odds
28:04
yet, but to me it be like Tampa, Minnesota I think.
28:07
OK, I'm going with. I mean, first of all, I'm gonna
28:11
preface this by saying that I'm truly awful at predicting the
28:14
Stanley Cup, so I do the bracket challenge every.
28:16
Year you always want to have going to the Stanley Cup Final,
28:18
that's why. No, I've had them winning this
28:20
down like a final every year and you know what there was the year
28:24
when they made it to the finals. Yeah, I, my bracket was sick,
28:26
you know, like nobody else had a good bracket.
28:29
Cause who would have guessed that?
28:30
That's true. But but yeah, I know I'm really
28:31
bad at predicting. I don't know why like my my
28:34
regular season prowess does not translate towards towards the
28:37
playoffs, but I will give it a shot anyways.
28:40
So my first answer is obviously the haves are winning it all.
28:42
But if, if not the haves, then I'm going to go with a final.
28:46
I think Buffalo, I think let's you.
28:48
Know I. Think they could do it.
28:50
I really like what they've got going on and, and I think
28:53
they've got a really fun run ahead of them.
28:55
And then from the West, I also like, I think I also like
28:59
Minnesota. Josh Norris, playoff MVP, who
29:02
says no? I'm going.
29:03
You know what I'm gonna say? Buffalo, Anaheim in the Finals
29:06
now, But Can you imagine how fun that?
29:08
Would be so fun though. I feel like this really get a
29:10
crazy playoffs. I feel like the best teams all
29:12
have like chinks in the armor and then the other teams are all
29:15
like ready take that jump so I feel.
29:17
Like we're finally getting their soldier shoulder like they're,
29:20
you know, yeah, I think it's gonna be really, really fun.
29:23
I'm really looking forward to it.
29:24
Also, I feel we're counting out Vegas but.
29:27
Counting out Vegas. I don't believe in them
29:29
honestly. If they get good goaltending, I
29:31
feel like they could go for it again.
29:33
That's a huge if. It is pretty big.
29:35
If, but you never know. Yeah.
29:36
I just think all these other top teams, like actual elite
29:39
goaltenders, like, you know, yeah, Dallas, you know, you've
29:42
got like odd injury, you know, Tampa has Vasilevsky, Colorado
29:45
has Blackwood, like Minnesota has Gustafson, and then you're
29:49
like, Vegas has Eden Hill. Yeah, like.
29:52
They want a cup with Aiden Hill. Yeah.
29:55
And then they. Colorado won the Cup with Darcy
29:57
Kemper when he was before he was cemented as a good goalie
30:00
technically. Yeah, yeah, no, it's definitely
30:02
possible. But like when you have teams
30:03
that are equally as good on the rest of their roster, I'd go
30:06
with the one with a better goalie right Next Got show me
30:10
pageot on discord asked what would you guys do with gudis?
30:13
Anaheim is a good schedule rest of season, but his minutes and
30:15
bangs are way down. I've been having this internal
30:18
debate for a while because I have him on my team and he's got
30:21
that name value of being like an elite bangers guy.
30:23
So you're like, I can't drop an elite bangers guy like that.
30:26
Like, but you know, he just hasn't been doing it.
30:28
It's the minutes like you like you mentioned that obviously
30:32
have a huge effect on the banks. I'm honestly probably going to
30:34
drop him in the next day or two. I'm giving him like one or two
30:37
more chances to see if he could turn it around like he's gonna
30:40
have his game tonight. But if he has, if he has another
30:42
game of like no hits and like no blocks, um, then I'm probably
30:46
probably might drop him tonight, honestly.
30:47
So I don't think I don't think you have to hold on to him just
30:50
because of his name value. I mean, I just picked up Connor
30:52
Clifton. I know in the last episode I
30:53
said I wasn't going. To brought him up because of the
30:55
you pooed on him. Honestly like.
30:59
I convinced you that he's actually a good player to
31:01
roster. I will say I was probably a bit
31:04
biased because I did pick him up earlier this year and then he
31:06
did get scratched. So I I got burnt once already,
31:09
but I still think that the possibility is there.
31:11
I don't know how confident I feel holding Clifton going into
31:14
the playoffs, but I'm like you mentioned earlier, like I'm in a
31:18
pretty comfortable spot right now, so I can take the shot at
31:20
the upside. If if he gets scratched, then I
31:22
have to drop him. Like I don't think it's gonna
31:24
cost me my matchup or my playoff spot or anything like that.
31:27
So I think it definitely, it definitely matters kind of where
31:29
you're at. Like if you're fighting for the
31:30
playoffs, I'm not taking that kind of risk that a guy could
31:32
just get scratched if you're more comfortable the upsides
31:35
there. So anyways, all that to say, I
31:36
did pick him up and now I'm planning on keeping him over
31:39
Goodis. So I just think there's a lot of
31:42
it's not that hard to find a good hitting defenseman.
31:45
Like if all he does is hit, like what good is what made him such
31:48
a good banger was yes, he was elated hits, but he would also
31:50
block you would also get Pimms. He hasn't been really doing
31:53
that. So so yeah, all that to say, I
31:56
feel like I'm comfortable dropping him.
31:58
Once once they lose that blocked threshold, they become a lot
32:01
more 1 dimensional and then they become a lot more placeable.
32:04
Like it's still he has the bangers name.
32:06
Everybody knows radical gudas from, you know, leading the
32:09
league in hits for every year on year on year.
32:12
But then you can replace them with a Leanne Bischel or you
32:16
know, Jeremy Lawson came and he he cemented himself like there's
32:19
just always these guys that will get you the hits and you can
32:23
replace that like everybody in the points that rewards hits.
32:26
You can easily stream. And if you're playing the
32:28
categories where you want that category coverage of like the
32:30
Pimms hits and blocks, like if he's not delivering, you replace
32:34
these guys. That's it.
32:36
Absolutely. Like it's, it's exactly like you
32:38
said, it's when even if he was doing elite hits but not
32:40
touching any other categories, I'm not that interested in that.
32:43
Like unless my team is like he's like the perfect puzzle piece,
32:45
like my team is perfect at everything else and all I need
32:47
is hits. But for the most part, if a guys
32:48
only hitting one category and it's like the type of
32:50
replaceable category like hits, then I'm not that interested.
32:53
I'd rather a guy who hit slightly less but also those
32:55
blocks and other stuff. So this is not to say that you
32:58
won't have a good stretch of games stories doing that again
33:00
rest of season. Like still radical good is like
33:02
you didn't just stop having that profile, right?
33:05
But it's just if you need wins right now, then you have to do
33:08
what you have to do. And I would not feel bad about
33:10
cutting him. But are there better days ahead
33:12
for radical goods becoming again what he usually is?
33:15
Yes, absolutely. So it's just if you can afford
33:18
to hold him, but I wouldn't say he's a must hold.
33:20
That's kind of how I feel. Yeah, I like I said, I'm giving
33:24
him a few more, like one or two more games to see what he does,
33:26
but but then I might drop. Alright.
33:29
Jodari on Discord asked should goalie goals and assists count
33:32
towards fantasy points? What fantasy rule would you
33:35
change if you could? First of all, I think no
33:38
brainer. Everyone thinks that goalie
33:39
business, if anything they should count as more right like.
33:42
So I think it's ridiculous. I don't know why Yahoo hasn't
33:45
implemented it other than like maybe it would look clunky
33:47
having to have extra those extra categories nice to the goalies,
33:50
or maybe it's just difficult to program or whatever.
33:52
Programming thing I have no idea.
33:53
That's it. Yeah, but it just seems like a
33:55
no brainer like it's always like that's the most frustrating.
33:58
You know, your goalie gets like an assist, the power play assist
34:00
like that, you know, like you lose the the week 5 power play
34:03
assist you like I got it, my team did it.
34:05
But yes, no fully everyone. I think we agree that those
34:08
should count. What fantasy role would you
34:10
change, Kevin? What fantasy rule would I
34:13
change? This is an interesting question
34:15
if this is deep and worth unpacking, but do you mean you
34:19
have something top of mind? I mean, mine's a little less
34:23
general and more like leek specific to our league.
34:24
Yeah, but I was talking with the with my wife, like you like even
34:28
about it. And I was just complaining about
34:31
how Kemper has been ruining my season in my life and, and how
34:34
much I hate goalies and like, I'm.
34:36
And she was like, well, yeah, it's dumb because, you know, 5
34:39
We have 5 out of our 15 categories, our goalie
34:41
categories, but only two out of 22 of our roster spots are
34:44
goalies. Yeah, but you can't.
34:46
How does that make sense, though?
34:47
Because goalies encompass way more than just two theatre
34:50
casts. I know, and I'm probably just
34:52
being salty. Yeah, that little temper sucks.
34:54
Cause I remember we had only two required stars and nobody was
34:58
rostering goalies. Yeah.
35:00
I mean I think I changed the minor league I joined.
35:02
I was just like why are we people rostering like 3 goalies?
35:04
Like this, that year me and you made the finals and both of us I
35:06
think end of the season 0 goalies.
35:10
Hit our stars and that was it. That dropped all our goalies.
35:12
Yeah, exactly. So yeah, I think maybe it's
35:16
probably just cause I'm having, I mean, I just feel like every
35:18
season goalies just sucks. So my my answer is my salty
35:24
answers. Just get rid of goalie.
35:25
Your mistake was dropping a goal.
35:26
You're not going complete 0G. I am never again.
35:30
You can listen to me now. Everyone on the podcast
35:33
declaration I will never draft a goalie again.
35:37
Ever. So, so for context, for those
35:40
that weren't with us in the in the offseason last year, I
35:43
remember drafting Ilya Sorokin. I think it was like in the
35:46
eighth or ninth round. And that was my first goal that
35:48
I drafted. And I felt like I got really
35:49
good value on him for like who I thought he was going to be.
35:51
The Islanders were like $8 sign dollar sign.
35:54
And it looked like really, really bad draft pick the whole
35:57
season until at the very end where he was like actually
35:59
solid. And then Josh had like no
36:01
goalies and I think he he spent all his fab on Blackwood and
36:04
like it was it was insane. But this year I drafted no
36:09
goalies. The two goals that left the
36:10
draft with were UPL and Joseph Wald who both were on my IR and
36:15
both I got 0 games out of before I had to cut them.
36:19
But I I mixed and matched it and now I feel like I'm in the at
36:22
least average situation. Whereas Josh drafted Kemper with
36:26
his eighth pick or 9th pick. I took Dylan Cousins, Josh took
36:30
Darcy Kemper and one of us is really happy and one of us is
36:32
really sad, so. Yeah, no, I honestly and just
36:36
like the flexibility of being able to pick up whichever
36:40
goalie, like just gets hot, you know, without having to worry
36:44
like, oh, I'm dropping my eighth round pick.
36:45
Like there's so many times where I would have loved to pick up
36:48
the hot goalie, but I'm like, I'm not gonna drop Kemper, you
36:50
know. So when you don't have any of
36:53
that draft capital that you spent on goalies, you're just so
36:55
much more flexible. Anyways, I don't have to go into
36:57
that. That wasn't really the question.
36:58
But anyways, I just hate goalies.
37:01
Change I feel like. Would you change?
37:05
I feel like I would force people to make at least one trade a
37:08
season. I love that.
37:10
There you go, Love that you. Gotta be at least one trade.
37:13
But it's it's a terrible rule. But I would, I would, I would
37:16
think it's fun. Yeah, yeah.
37:17
One has to trade with me once you.
37:19
Give me their best player and then.
37:23
Yeah, no, I love that. And it's, uh, you know, Yeah.
37:26
You know what I think more traits.
37:27
You know what I think I would like I would.
37:31
People always complain about maximum move caps.
37:33
I wanna minimum move like a yeah.
37:36
So you have to, you have to make minimum amount of moves
37:38
throughout the whole season because we have people that are
37:40
like that, you know, become inactive or whatever, like I
37:43
feel. Like they're not gonna care
37:44
either way. No, I don't.
37:45
Know, I think just implementing the punishment for the last
37:49
place team is a is a good one to stop people from being inactive.
37:54
So that could be a good one. But that's more just like anyone
37:57
could do that. It's not really a fantasy role.
37:58
Official answer My fantasy change would be forcibly
38:02
removing plus minus from every fantasy league out there, no
38:06
matter the leagues. Categories are points.
38:08
Please remove plus minus. That should not be a category.
38:11
Just do it and move on. I think everybody will be happy.
38:14
Agreed, and mine is get rid of all goalies.
38:18
Two equally reasonable, well thought out answers.
38:22
All right, Joshua, if you're on Discord asked how would you guys
38:26
feel about adding a fantasy category for being one of the
38:29
three stars of the game? Honestly it sounds fun and
38:33
concept but I would hate this. Yeah, I was gonna say I would
38:36
not be affected. This is like in fantasy F1, if
38:39
any, and if any of you play fantasy F1 out there, um, you
38:42
get extra points like you get extra points for like overtaking
38:45
somebody on the race track. You also get points for like
38:47
where you qualify, where you finish, but then they also give
38:49
like 10 points for driver of the day who was voted on by the
38:53
fans. And most of the time it's like,
38:54
oh, if you're like the only Australian and then you're going
38:57
to the Australian Grand Prix, like that guy usually wins
38:59
driver of the day, even though he didn't win the race.
39:01
So it's like it's just these random things that no, don't
39:04
influence. It's like at all.
39:05
It's dependable, right? And like, imagine losing because
39:08
somebody voted out your, your opponents goalie as like player
39:11
of the day. You let it like four goals, but
39:13
like he had like 50 shots and you lose your match up because
39:17
of that. Like that?
39:17
Be crazy. Yeah, no, I definitely would not
39:22
be a fan of that. Um, it's just a fan vote, right?
39:25
Like you've seen like sometimes it's the most ridiculous, like
39:27
not ridiculous reasons, but like sometimes like a guy plays in
39:30
this like a thousandth game and put some straight zeros and he
39:32
gets like first start of the game just for the vibes, you
39:34
know. Like it's like stuff like
39:35
there's definitely a lot of times where like it is a random
39:38
player in terms of like production gets a star.
39:41
And then there's times where it's like the most deserving I
39:43
guess a star but then you just rewarding someone who already
39:45
had a good game like doubly, which I don't like over
39:48
rewarding for the same thing. Yeah, we're not pulling into the
39:50
comics. I don't think it was like this
39:52
should be a category, please include it.
39:54
But. Yeah, it's a fun idea though.
39:57
I like. It it is a fun idea, right?
39:59
Waffle Stomper on Discord asked, being new to the podcast, what
40:03
kind of content can we expect during this actual Stanley Cup
40:06
Playoffs and during the off season?
40:09
So I mean, listen, I, I spoke to Waffle Stomper in the Discord
40:12
and I told him, listen, if you guys have suggestions of what
40:14
you want to see from us in the offseason during the playoffs,
40:18
let us know because we are open to taking all suggestions.
40:21
But I think our plan is we're going to cover the Stanley Cup
40:23
Playoffs. I know a lot of leagues out
40:24
there do playoff pools, so that could be some cool content to
40:27
cover for everybody. Then in the off season, I think
40:30
the main thing we're going to do is we're going to do a lot.
40:32
Of beer bets episode. I mean, we have the beer beer
40:35
bets episode. You guys probably haven't heard
40:37
us make one beer bed in the last few weeks, because it's been.
40:40
You've been slacking. Yeah, I made one not too long
40:42
ago, but still they haven't been super often.
40:45
But we we may be we make bets throughout the season where you
40:48
know, we're betting this guy we'll finish better than this
40:50
guy or this guy will get this more point of this guy.
40:52
We keep referencing the very famous one of I bet Jakey that
40:56
Pavel Durov will get more points than Aliaxis produce.
41:00
He brings it up every so often I it's closer than it should be if
41:05
I'm being real but yeah. And then at the end of the
41:08
season every time you lose it you have to drink a beer.
41:10
So then we do 1 episode. We tally up all the bets and we
41:13
drink our beers or if you're drinking, you don't drink your
41:15
beers. Yeah, you lose all credibility
41:18
but that's a story for another day.
41:21
But we do a lot of like rewind content or we're gonna be like
41:25
OK, where were we wrong? Where will we write what the
41:28
process good was the process wrong?
41:29
Like what were our best takes, a lot of self scouting and what we
41:32
can do moving forward. And then obviously leading up to
41:34
the season we're gonna do all the preparation content.
41:37
But this stuff you guys wanna see, like if you guys just want
41:39
to see our personalities and talk about hockey stuff, non
41:41
hockey stuff, like let us know because we're really open to
41:43
that. Yeah, I think, I think we're
41:46
open to to anything and we're always trying to like, you know,
41:49
expand the pod and stuff and get it to grow.
41:51
So, you know, if the offseason, like heaven said, there's
41:54
there's some non specifically fantasy hockey stuff you want us
41:57
to talk about, we're all ears. You know, we're just give us
42:02
feedback and we'll do. It we have an episode, I think
42:04
it was in December of last year, where we did like the Wags
42:07
episode where like our girlfriends prepared a
42:09
girlfriends, the wives prepared a questions for us that we
42:12
talked about on the pod and we ended up all being in person.
42:14
And the audio that was really bad because we the mics were
42:18
picking up on each other since we were all in the same room.
42:20
Yeah. But it was still a really fun
42:21
episode, I think. So that that could be fun.
42:23
Yeah, exactly. And we love doing top 10s.
42:26
We'll have a lot of tokens for you.
42:27
I am a SLU T for lists so anything could rank against each
42:32
other I will do. Yeah, yeah, alright, last one,
42:35
Waffle Stomper, again on discord asked what style of draft do you
42:38
guys prefer? Snake draft, order draft or
42:41
auction draft? I don't have experience with
42:44
auction draft. I honestly don't exactly know
42:46
how it works. For fun.
42:49
They're very long and tedious. So basically like you go into
42:51
the draft with like a big budget, like imagine like a lot
42:53
of fab and then, you know, people are in order of, you
42:56
know, they nominate player. So like there's no specific
42:58
draft order. I'm first like I can nominate
43:01
Brady could Chuck or I can nominate Creel Marchenko and
43:03
then we all bid on Marchenko. There's a lot of strategy that
43:06
goes into it because you know, you can nominate players early
43:08
that you don't want to other bid on them.
43:10
Then you're bidding against others that have less less
43:13
budget. So you're kind of building your
43:14
team how you want, but it's also like everybody's fair game to
43:17
get anybody on their team. Like if you really want me,
43:18
David, you could really get me David.
43:20
You know, like you can just, yeah, go all in on McDavid and
43:23
then you put the pieces together after that.
43:26
That's crazy So well like and then the draft ends once
43:29
everyone has a full roster. Exactly.
43:31
So like once your roster is full, even if you have money
43:33
left over, then you. Mean you ideally don't have
43:35
money left over because that's just not wise, but it happens
43:37
all the time. That sounds like really fun,
43:40
like I don't know, like I don't know a lot of be my favorite,
43:44
but but it would be like fun to like experience that.
43:47
I think that sounds like a like really cool.
43:48
It's very popular for basketball.
43:50
OK, yeah, I think for me, we always do snake draft.
43:53
I think I would never do ordered draft because I just feel like
43:57
that's unfair. Like just that's just straight
43:59
advantage for whoever wins the die roll and gets first, first,
44:02
second, third, whatever. Snake draft at least you know,
44:04
makes it as even as it can even with even in a snake draft, the
44:07
first couple guys are still advantages because you're
44:09
getting like heartbreak of like a McDavid drives little couch.
44:12
But like in an ordered draft. I, I just feel like there's a, I
44:15
mean, no reason to do it that. Way that's why third round
44:17
reversal is super popular. It's basically like first and
44:21
second round do normal snake but then the third round it restarts
44:25
from the 12th pick guy gets. The first thing you're saying,
44:28
1st and 2nd is like a normal order and then they flip it for
44:32
the rest of the draft. It's.
44:32
Flipped exactly. So like the guy who drove from
44:34
the 12th spot will have like the first pick in the second round
44:39
and the third round, no? In the third round and on for
44:43
the rest of the. Draft, correct.
44:44
Exactly. OK.
44:46
So it minimizes the downside of like not getting a McDavid,
44:49
McKinnon or whatever? Yeah, I mean, I like that.
44:52
I still prefer to just do snake like right off the bat, but
44:55
yeah, it's just like, I don't do people actually just do a
44:58
straight up order draft like? No, I don't think it happens
45:01
anymore, ever. That can't be a thing because
45:03
it's just like people inherently just have a massive advantage
45:05
over others. Yeah.
45:07
But yeah, so I think I would go snake over ordered and then
45:09
auction to me is just kind of like a wild card that I've never
45:12
done. Sounds really fun.
45:13
But when you guys, we need to convince Josh to make a dynasty
45:16
league or a keeper league like we have to, we have to try to
45:18
convince him that he can, you know, be invested more than just
45:20
one league. I, I can't honestly like my, my
45:24
highs are so high, but my lows are so low.
45:26
I will get way too emotionally invested and I just put my
45:29
everything into it. So I I don't think I have the.
45:32
The beauty is if one of your emotional is really bad, you can
45:34
put your energy into the other team still doing really good and
45:37
you. Care about more than equally.
45:39
I don't want to. We'll talk, We'll talk.
45:43
I'm I get too emotionally invested and I'm just too
45:46
miserable when my team is not doing well to to get even more
45:49
into it, I. Think you would like it?
45:51
Just more teams to focus on. But yeah, I think you could
45:55
handle 2. I think you handled too like our
45:58
league of record and like being your management community league
46:01
type of thing. Just to be clear, like, like,
46:03
you know, in terms of like everything, I could handle it
46:06
like just fine. It's really the emotional aspect
46:08
of it that just gets to me so hard.
46:10
So I don't think you guys know Josh.
46:12
Like his month will be ruined if he loses a match that he wasn't
46:15
supposed to lose. Like he has everything mapped
46:16
out. It doesn't go according to plan
46:17
and in a negative way. Like we're all gonna be hearing
46:20
it. I'm the same way.
46:21
But like maybe 50% of what Josh feels like.
46:25
It really bothers me. But then also when I see how
46:28
Josh reacts, like I feel like he's I feel like his life is on
46:31
the line. Like we talk about gun to my
46:32
head, we talk about my house on Zillow.
46:34
Like really, Josh has got his suitcase constantly packed and
46:37
like he's ready to go. Something goes wrong.
46:41
I've I've started sharing a bit in the in the live discussion,
46:45
you know, yeah, that's in the in the discord and stuff so people
46:47
could get an idea of how how insane I am.
46:49
But yeah, it's 00 emotional regulation in regards to
46:53
fantasy. Like it's so funny because like
46:55
everywhere else in my life, I'm just, I'm so not like that,
46:58
like, you know, like in this. I just overreact so hard.
47:02
And yeah, it's fun. We have a good time.
47:04
We do have a good time. Except it's apparently the
47:07
receipts are pulled sometimes on on the pod by Jake you, so you
47:10
have to watch out. But you know what I say.
47:12
You gotta go too hard. Yeah, alright.
47:17
I think that's a good a good way to wrap it up.
47:19
Yeah, that wraps up our week 19 hot topics and mail back
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There. Hey, crash out, Yeah.
48:21
Dude, come fantasy playoffs, like first of all, if one of the
48:24
banker management team mates doesn't make the playoffs, it's
48:27
gonna be a whole Shakal. And with how it's looking right
48:32
now, what I was looking right now, one of us is going to play
48:35
each other. That was also English.
48:37
It's late, I'm tired, but we're gonna end up playing each other
48:41
probably in the playoffs in the first round.
48:43
It's either me versus you or me versus Jakey or you versus
48:46
Jakey. Like one of those matches is
48:47
going to happen. So it's going to be pretty
48:50
devastating. Forever loses, but yeah.
48:52
Yeah, alright, yeah, it gets it gets held over you for years, I.
48:55
Know you have to wait a whole. You know, for you guys, do it
48:58
again. I cannot handle that, so I hope
49:02
it's not me, but alas. On that note, you can take it
49:05
away our names. Now Bangor Management Fantasy
49:10
Hockey podcast. Woo woo.
49:15
Jake's going through.