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Vawlin Out 2026 Football Preview · Vawlin Out

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the Falling Out Podcast. It's been a hot
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: minute since we've seen you guys. Uh, man, we we
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: took a little bit of a hiatus, didn't we.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Oh yeah, I think we might we.
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  Speaker 2: I think we quit after Oklahoma beat our ass.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we just we tapped out. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I think we threw all our orange ship in the garbage.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I am I allowed to say ship.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: We threw all our all of our orange in the
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  Speaker 2: garbage and uh and uh and quit after the Oklahoma game.
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  Speaker 2: But here it is, uh August second, and we're ready to.
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  Speaker 1: We're we're ready to hurt again. We're ready to hurt again.
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  Speaker 1: It's uh, that's like the the I mean, our relationship
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  Speaker 1: with the balls man, it's like the most toxic relationship
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  Speaker 1: you've ever had, you know what I'm saying. We know,
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  Speaker 1: it's almost like getting on the damn time tanic knowing
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  Speaker 1: the boat's gonna ship gonna sink anyway. Yep, But here
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  Speaker 1: we are.
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  Speaker 2: You know, watch that movie for the first time in
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  Speaker 2: my life the other night.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's a good movie. D it is, it is,
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  Speaker 1: it is. I'll tell you this, though I still crunch
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  Speaker 1: when old Buddy falls off the boat and his leg
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  Speaker 1: hits the hits the propeller.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, oh yeah. I mean there's some moments
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  Speaker 2: in there. I didn't even need the Jack and Rose
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  Speaker 2: love story to be interested in it. I was more
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  Speaker 2: interested in the boat sinking. Right. So I've been I've
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  Speaker 2: been on a Titanic uh. Like my my YouTube recommended
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  Speaker 2: videos are all Titanic h videos for the past three
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  Speaker 2: or four days now.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway back to the like, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: see this thing go down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know everything about it.
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  Speaker 1: Buddy, man, you know uh uh that we took that
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  Speaker 1: much time off. Life happens when we do come back here,
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  Speaker 1: you know shortly, Uh Bill, our buddy, Billy is out
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  Speaker 1: of town at the moment, but he will be back.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna come back this year, and we're gonna make
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  Speaker 1: sure we're here every week. Whether it's football, basketball, win
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  Speaker 1: or loss, We're gonna be here the rainer shine. We're
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  Speaker 1: like FedEx rain sleet, hell or snow. We deliver. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna deliver this year. It's gonna be fun, man,
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. So let's let's just dive right
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  Speaker 1: into it man, our staff goes this year, Man, we've
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  Speaker 1: got some new hires, uh first and foremost, because I
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  Speaker 1: think it's gonna take a little bit longer to some
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  Speaker 1: of the others. Let's talk about the new hires, and
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about the strength of conditioning staff in particular.
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  Speaker 1: We got Derek Owings from Indiana. He pretty much brought
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  Speaker 1: his whole staff with him. Man, Like it's it's it's impressive.
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  Speaker 1: And if you've seen the pictures on Facebook of you know,
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  Speaker 1: or social media in general of what looks like that
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  Speaker 1: that strength and conditioning program is doing with these with
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  Speaker 1: these kids, they look like grown men. Son I've seen.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen a few photos like Deshaun Bishop specifically I
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  Speaker 2: saw yesterday that has has definitely put on some muscle.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise, as far as as far as Derrick Owings goes,
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  Speaker 2: getting the guy from the team that just won the
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  Speaker 2: national championship as your strengthen conditioning coach, that's a you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of a big deal. Also when you look
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  Speaker 2: back at like what Alabama and LSU and all those
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  Speaker 2: guys were doing a decade ago before the Niel era,
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  Speaker 2: UH strength and conditioning was UH was always the the
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  Speaker 2: big deal, right, yeah, yeah, Tommy Moffatt, Uh yeahs you
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  Speaker 2: was the was the guy there? Who it's it's that
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  Speaker 2: that is Honestly, I think it's head coach, your coordinators,
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  Speaker 2: and then strength and conditioning.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the most.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe strength and conditioning more important than the coordinators.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that, Like, I think that's one
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  Speaker 1: of the most underappreciated spots on a staff that you
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  Speaker 1: can have, honestly, you know, And what's interesting to me
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  Speaker 1: about this, like, let's let's just run through this real quick.
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  Speaker 1: Derek Owens strength and conditioning. Players seem to like him.
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  Speaker 1: They say he's real hard, say he's tough. But underneath him,
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  Speaker 1: you've got Carl Miller, Jason Wooding, ads of Football SPOR
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  Speaker 1: Performance a d S like a uh yeah, okay, assistant directors.
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  Speaker 1: I just said Elijah Blackman and Drew Painter, as as
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  Speaker 1: Elijah Blackman and Drew Painter. Drew Painter. That sounds that
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  Speaker 1: name sounds really familiar to me. Was it was Curtis Painter.
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  Speaker 2: Curtis was the quarterback and then Matt Painter is the
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  Speaker 2: coach at Purdue.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I knew I knew it sounded familiar.
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  Speaker 1: So a Painter, I mean the.
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  Speaker 2: Coach at Purdue in Indiana, and Curtis Painter, the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: from the Colts also in Indiana where we got our
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  Speaker 2: straight the conditioning coach from.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, you know you're fine. I'm with you, I'm following
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  Speaker 1: you a circle. Then we got Josh Huff Applied performance science.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he's in charge of. So I'm guessing it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, macros and this, that and the other, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the stuff we don't think about. Katie O'Connor, sports performance dietitian.
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  Speaker 2: She's probably in the macro's business. The last guy was
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  Speaker 2: in like the uh, the vitamins business.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you,
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  Speaker 1: I'm following you. I'm smelling what you're stepping in. But
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  Speaker 1: now here to me like as important you just kind
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  Speaker 1: of mentioned it. But as important as that entire staff is,
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  Speaker 1: I think the next two, the next two or three
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, are equally as important this year,
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  Speaker 1: especially for Josh Hyper, Jim Knowles defensive coordinator, and Derek
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  Speaker 1: Jones he's a cornerback coach or I'm sorry, Anthony Poindexter
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  Speaker 1: both of those come from Penn State. And then we
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  Speaker 1: got Derek Jones, h cornerback coach, Anthony Poindexter's co DC
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  Speaker 1: and secondary coach. Those two came from Penn State. Derek Jones.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was a higher gym Knowles wanted to make.
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  Speaker 1: What's interesting to me is the strength and conditioning program
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  Speaker 1: came from Indiana. Every new hire we have has some
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  Speaker 1: sort of Big Ten connection.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if we're looking at it now, it's that that's
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  Speaker 2: a good thing, right, The big we get is running
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  Speaker 2: college football.
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  Speaker 1: See that, Well, that's what I was gonna say. Is
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  Speaker 1: to me, the Big Ten has replaced the SEC for
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  Speaker 1: the best conference in the country. I'll say it. I
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  Speaker 1: had no problem saying it. I mean, that's top to bottom.
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  Speaker 1: It's better even the top heavy.
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  Speaker 2: It's very clear. I don't even think it's top heavy.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think stack sixteen to sixteen, which I
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  Speaker 2: think they have eighteen teams, But I think I think
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  Speaker 2: you stack. I think you either way, they're clearly the
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  Speaker 2: best conference. They've won three straight national championships with three
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  Speaker 2: different champions that our run of dominance is over mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, I mean we still got and but
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  Speaker 2: I think the SEC still has a shot at We've
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  Speaker 2: got a shot at it every year. Yeah, yes, as
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  Speaker 2: a conference, but the Big ten is just better right now.
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  Speaker 1: I think the playoffs have somewhat uh l is even
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  Speaker 1: that out? It's just uh I think I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of it with a lot of it has to
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  Speaker 1: do with the look of draw too.
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  Speaker 2: And an expansion to like you can't just be like,
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  Speaker 2: you can't just add Oregon and.
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  Speaker 1: Right we're still look how good we are, right right?
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  Speaker 1: We got Texas.
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  Speaker 2: We just add the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: Well look at us, look at us, look at that
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  Speaker 1: with us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but either way, either way you slice, the Big
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  Speaker 2: ten is is the now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's that's just the way it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna take. And man, I mean, like I say,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty even. You know, SEC Big ten.
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  Speaker 1: Those are the those are your one A, one B.
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  Speaker 1: And I think any given year you can put in
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  Speaker 1: either spot one A, one B and you wouldn't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: be wrong. But I don't think the Big twelve is
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Big twelve is a clear cut three and
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  Speaker 1: then you got back twelve.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's I'll say that obviously, those are
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  Speaker 2: the your two best and then everybody else is playing
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  Speaker 2: for third. Third. Yeah, but right now the big tennis
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  Speaker 2: is is the king.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, it sucks to say it, but it
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  Speaker 1: is what it is. I think we all knew this
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  Speaker 1: day was coming up.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not I'm not a I'm not a
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  Speaker 2: I'm not an SEC supremacist.
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  Speaker 1: No me either, me either.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I hate everybody in the SEC that's not us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm right there with you. I am right there
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  Speaker 1: with you.
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  Speaker 2: Especially I had a problem with Oklahoma until they joined
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  Speaker 2: the SEC.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I did. I didn't either. I
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  Speaker 1: think that was I think expansion for the SEC what
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  Speaker 1: as a whole was good. I think it made you know,
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  Speaker 1: it gives you a little bit more depth whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But well, in the long haul, in the long haul,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be good for college football because we're
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: gonna get out of which. Are we going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the linebacker in a few minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Carter, Yeah, we'll absolutely talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: But otherwise, I think the expansion is fine because eventually
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna break away from the NCAA and YadA, YadA, YadA.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, getting our coordinators to get us back on
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  Speaker 2: track to get it, get getting those coaches from the
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten. Uh? That it. I don't think it's that
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  Speaker 2: big of a deal. I think we got good ones
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  Speaker 2: from the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like we got you know, Nebraska's defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 2: and Northwestern's strength and conditioning coach, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's good that we got the strength and
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  Speaker 2: conditioning coach from the national champion from last year. And
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  Speaker 2: we've got Jim Knowles from Penn State. But who was
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  Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator that of a national championship team two years?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I think I'll just tell you right now, I've
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  Speaker 1: set it for a hot minute. I think that's the
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  Speaker 1: best hire outside of Derek Owings. But I even still,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the best hire we could have made.
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  Speaker 1: That's a home run higher Grand Slam. Honestly, we hung
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  Speaker 1: on to uh timmy two time for too long and
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: but but sometimes you's got to move up, move on, rebound, upgraded, upgraded.
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  Speaker 1: So let's let's talk for just a second here about
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  Speaker 1: the newcomers and goers really don't and transfers. Uh, We've
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  Speaker 1: got kaitln Lee. He's four star from Auburn cornerback. I
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  Speaker 1: think that was a good one. Uh, Auburn seems like
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  Speaker 1: they always have a good secondary. To me, it doesn't
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: matter how bad the rest of the defense is. Their
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  Speaker 1: secondary is legit. I think that's a good higher or
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  Speaker 1: a good higher ship. Uh good, you know, I mean
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  Speaker 1: in the in the n I in the n I
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  Speaker 1: el era. Yeah, I guess, yeah, they're all HighRes. We've
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  Speaker 1: got Xavier Gillen followed Knowles from Penn State. Another defense.
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  Speaker 1: He's I want to say he's on the defensive line.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't chop that down here in my notes. But
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  Speaker 1: here's the big one though, here's the big one. He's
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  Speaker 1: on Brandon, five star quarterback, probably our starter. If he's not,
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  Speaker 1: I bet he is by the by the start of
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  Speaker 1: SEC play.
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  Speaker 2: It's uh, the the talk around the room is that
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  Speaker 2: he is the starter.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Everything I've heard is he's gonna he's beating out uh
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  Speaker 2: McIntyre for the starting job.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's wild to me though, that we're taking and
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  Speaker 1: I and I hope that's the case, honestly, I really do,
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  Speaker 1: because at some point we're gonna have to start playing
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  Speaker 1: some of these highly recruited kids that you know, we get, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they transfer out this, that and the other, or or
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna just stop getting them. But every video you see,
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  Speaker 1: and I and I fully feel like it's calculated by
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  Speaker 1: hipel if you pay attention every video that you see
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  Speaker 1: that gets put out on YouTube, Facebook, whatever. The other
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  Speaker 1: guy George McIntyre is wearing the camera.
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  Speaker 2: So did George McIntyre put on any weight that supposedly
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  Speaker 2: he has put on about fifteen pounds, which that's big,
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  Speaker 2: that's important. It's a lot of weight, it is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I just I want whoever, whoever
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  Speaker 1: is the best one for the job. If we kind
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  Speaker 1: of run to all year, who cares if they're both
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  Speaker 1: good and they can both run the offense and Hype
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  Speaker 1: wants to call to one strong suit and the other
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  Speaker 1: strong suit do it, I don't care. Remember Eric Age,
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  Speaker 1: Brent Shaeffer, It was sort of the same thing at
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  Speaker 1: that point in time.
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  Speaker 2: It worked for a minute. I will say, I trust
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  Speaker 2: I trust Josh Hoppel with the quarterback position. Yes, that
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  Speaker 2: that is my that is my sentiment on it. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to see Phase and Brandon this year. But
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  Speaker 2: as soon as I can see him, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: want to see him play.
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  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, But it's like it's almost like Nico. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like phasey On's a douchebag.
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  Speaker 2: But if let's make let's make the best decision to
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  Speaker 2: win football games. But I trust I trust him with
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, last, but certainly not least. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like this is the elephant in the room as far
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  Speaker 1: as newcomers and goers, transfers whatever, chess Coleman. He was here,
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  Speaker 1: then he's not. He's here, and uh now he's gone
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  Speaker 1: after we paid him a whole bunch of money.
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  Speaker 2: See. Yeah, yeah, well of course we could use a
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  Speaker 2: you know, we could use a good pass rusher.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but who couldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, has he ended up anywhere?
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  Speaker 1: Uh? Not that I've seen. I haven't been paying attention
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  Speaker 1: necessarily admittedly so, but not that I've seen. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like that's something that either one of us is going
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: to get a notification from espen about, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So, Yeah, I'm not saying anything because he came from
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  Speaker 2: Penn State.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he came from Penn State. He came with
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  Speaker 1: you knowles.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not seeing uh, I'm not seeing any destination.
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  Speaker 1: Here, but waiting with him, Yes, and Buddy gets down
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  Speaker 1: there and uh, you know, I get it. He's a
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  Speaker 1: young he's a he's a young cat having a hard
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  Speaker 1: time adjusting the stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Far away from home, sure enough.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, it's college.
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  Speaker 1: Do what that's college? Yeah exactly, It's like, uh, you know, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: that's uh, that's life. Let's uh, let's put our big
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  Speaker 1: boy drawers on and let's go. You know, you're one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest colleges in college football. Uh, let's uh
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  Speaker 1: let him hang and play some football, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think, uh, I think better now than later.
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  Speaker 2: With Chas Coleman, it's very reminiscent of the Boot Carter situation,
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  Speaker 2: very reminiscent of the Nico situation, very reminiscent of just
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  Speaker 2: all the there's I mean, there's plenty of guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well in the n era, that right, that is tough
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  Speaker 2: to say, by the way, But in the in this era,
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  Speaker 2: it is we it's there. There's so many examples of
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  Speaker 2: of these guys like Chaz and Boo and Nico. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but this has happened all throughout college football, but it
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  Speaker 2: seems like it's always here. Why is it always here
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  Speaker 2: that these guys just can't stand it in Knoxville.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a money thing, man, though we throw
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: we throw enough money at some of these kids that
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I mean DGG for example, six million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Great, let's talk about him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a huge get yeah for next year.
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  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily need him this year. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: good enough to where he would uh make a difference
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  Speaker 1: this year by all means. But yeah, I mean that's
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  Speaker 1: a huge kip man. And he's the highest paid running
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: back recruit ever.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, because they've been getting paid for four years, right, but.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, get a spring on track, all right, You're no,
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  Speaker 1: It's just, uh, it's one of those things man, like
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  Speaker 1: we're paying all these kids they want to come here,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: or they say they want to come here, and then
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: next thing, you know, it's like, oh, well, you know
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I miss mom and dad, now miss him. They can
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: come here. That's part of your deal too. You can
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: pay for him to come here. Last I checked. Uh,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you're not a lines is a two way airline, you know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: here and here and back. You know, Like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: It's it's crazy to me, man. It's just like the
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  Speaker 1: amount of money we throw out there to some of
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: these teams and then or some of these kids, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: then we're just like, oh, okay, you don't want to
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: be here, Okay bye, and we still have to pay it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Oh miss is suing two players right now, you know, like, Okay,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: It's it's crazy, man, it's crazy. It's a crazy time
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: to be a lot.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I really wish the money hadn't got involved with college football.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: It's really you know, for for us, for us as
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: all fans, I think it's a double edged sword. And
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. I don't think, well, why exactly
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Without Without N I l I don't think we're even
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: sitting here talking about a possibility of a good season
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: at this moment in time. I think we had buried
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: ourselves so far down the line with Kiffen Duly coach Cornbread.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Nick saban Is is still at Bama. Yeah, with the
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: number one, with the preseason number one Alabama team.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Every year every year, and it's it's it's his world
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and we're just living in it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Tenth national title, yeah, or he's already won more
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: in the past few years.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's why Nil was good for Tennessee.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: And I l is also bad for Tennessee because of
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the same reasons.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Honestly, in IOLA is good for Tennessee. Is is as
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: good for Tennessee as it is bad for college football? Yeah,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: that's my my take on it.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I mean it is because essentially we're we're sitting here
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and we're watching amateur league football every Saturday, right mm hmm.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: They're just not making as much as you know some
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: of these dudes we watch on Sunday, and that's okay. Like,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I've always thought that some of these players, that these
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: players should have been paid, but some of the money
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that gets tossed out there, bro, some of.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: These players should get paid. Yes, I don't know if
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: it I I don't know if it should get I
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: don't know if that money should be used in recruiting. Yeah,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I don't And and this goes h We'll go ahead
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: extend to our to our linebacker situation. Here Arion Carter
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: with an airplane, right, like, why why is it a
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: big deal to to pay for for a university to
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: pay for a four hundred dollars flight to find out
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: what his na Who cares if you paid it back?
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Right when the kid's getting six million? Is is that
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: what you said. Yeah, yeah, uh, signing was worth, which
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I know at the university is not like University of
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Tennessee is not like here's six six thousand dollars or
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: six million dollars, right, But yeah, I just can't. I
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: can't wrap my head around I can't wrap my head
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: around the whole the whole situation. College football is turning
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: into not even the NFL, it's turning it into something
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: that is.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Just it's lawless, nonsensical, like it's lawless, but at the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: same time it's not you know what I mean, Like, well,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I mean got in.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Trouble two years ago for buying a kid a cheeseburger. Yeah,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: that's why he was like, you know what this, I'm
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: gonna go coach the Chargers and live in Los Angeles
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: and and that'll have to Can I can buy cheeseburgers
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: for whoever the fuck I want.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: To, right, It's but it's crazy, brother, It's crazy. I'm
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: with you, I we're we're we're all in on the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: craziness here, all right. So I know I know this
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: topic right here is something you've been waiting to talk
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: about because we've we've talked about it on on some
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: other stuff. Let's talk about Heipel's hot seat, so to speak,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: quote unquote is it hot? Lukewarm?
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Cold?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Ice cold? I mean he's overhauled the entire defensive staff, strength,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: conditioning staff. I've said it before. I think Noles was
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: a helicopter deck higher like that was a good hire.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: You bought two years with that one. I think two
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: years because everybody that knows and has seen what he
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: does says it takes two years to get his entire
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: defense in. If his seat was hot, who.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Said who says that a seat can't be hot for
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: two years?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Oh that's true, that's true. I mean, ask Phil his
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: seat was hot for starting in ninety nine and he
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: lasted nine more years, you know. I mean, uh, but
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: if his seat is hot, what do we need to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: see this year to cool it off?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I think one we need to see, did we did we?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: We never put the road bug to bed? Right? Yeah?
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: That thing is still alive and kicking brother.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: So we're just we just ignore it now, do we?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Because well, I mean, well, I'm saying two years ago
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: that was the thing. It's like, yeah, Hipele's good, but
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: he can't win on the road. And now it's like, yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Aiffle was good last year. We didn't beat any team
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: with a winning record. No, I just want to beat
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: a good team.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe here, I think here is what what kind of
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: helps put that kind of stuff to bed though is
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: and this will play into you know, a couple of
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: our games on the schedule. Here he did go to
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the swamp last year and in that streak that was
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: a bit one for all of us. And that and that,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and the thing is, that was the crown jewel of
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: last year. It was, it was, And it doesn't matter
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: how bad Flora was to any of us. We needed
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: to go down there and see that when happen.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Matters a lot, matters a little how bad they were,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: but it was the crown jewel of last season.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: If Florda was better, it mattered a lot more.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Sure, but they weren't, because if they were, they would
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: have beat us.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, Like I mean, it's hard to mathematically look
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: at it.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, every team with a losing record we beat. Every
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: team with a with a winning record.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: We lost to Yeah, I mean that's that's that's fact.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: And the thing about it is is here's what I
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: need to see. Nine wins. Okay, Okay, not nine wins total.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: That's this. This does not include postseason play. Okay, nine
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: out of.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Twelve, nine twelve. Okay, I'm with you.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, so and I'll be in and I'll
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I'll put my pitchfork back in the closet or wherever
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: you put pitchforks. I don't know. I've never owned a pitchfork,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: but you see what I'm saying.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm with you. Nine wins.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: That eight and four again is not going to cut
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: it because of well, let's let's look at the schedule here.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: That's exactly where we're going right there. So let's go
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: ahead and just jump into it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Game one, Furma, three thirty pm. I think we both
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: got that pencilvan as a dub dub uh. Next one,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: it gets a little bit more interesting. Georgia Tech. It's
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: neutral sight game seven pm kickoff. I still want to
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: say it's DUB though.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: We actually looks like we played that at their home stadium?
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Is it? I thought it was a neutral site game.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, my information is telling me that it's at Bobby
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Dodd Stadium.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: We'll go with Bobby Dodd's stout. We'll go with it
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: with it being in Bobby Dallad Okay, I don't know.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like so we we always get that early
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: uh useless acc team, you know a couple of years
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: stated a couple of years ago Georgia Tech in twenty seventeen,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Virginia Tech in Bristol.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: We we always get this team and pitt in and
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I've always I've always been one of those guys. It's like, man,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: this team like we might be in trouble.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, give me us.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm gonna give me us against Georgia.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: If it was the uh, the Tech that ran the
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: triple option, I'd be like, oh, uh no, no, we're done.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Who would ki?
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah? But no, I'm with you on that one. Next up,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Kansas State three thirty pm. Think you can go ahead
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and pencil that one in as a dub.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I can't believe that's three thirty pm and Texas is
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: at noon. That's crazy.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Speaking of that's the next team we're gonna talk about
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Texas noon. That one. That one right there man in
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Knoxville in Knoxville noon kickoff, Why it makes no sense
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: to me none, what's so ever? But either way, we
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: got to pick it. Which way you going Texas Texas.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm a horns down guy all the time.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I think I think Texas beats US.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's one of our swing games.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Uh we win or lose that one. I mean we
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: win it, obviously, things look a lot better. We lose,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: things don't look as bad as they could be.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Man, if we're one with the loss of Texas, it's
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: not it's not dooming gloom.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: No no, by no means we lose at home, I'm
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: gonna go I'm gonna go with a doub on this one,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why, because it's at home period.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I think they'll get that crowd up. The that's gonna
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: be that that's the first big game of the year
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: for us.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: With it being the first big game of the year,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: that's a good argument. But and I secondly, we lost
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: at home to Georgia. Last year, we lost at home
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: to Oklahoma. And I'm sorry that Vanderbilt not put our
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: ship in.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: They leaned our ship in.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: But I think I think Vanderbilt bought Neeland Stadium.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: They branded it. If they didn't buy it, I don't know.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm getting there though, I'm on the same
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: nine and three track as you. I just think we
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: got a different path getting there.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying nine to three is the baseline. See
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: for me to be not one his ass out of.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Here, all right, all right, so you're at you're so
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: right now, you're at three and one. I'm at four.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think three one's crazy. Texas is too good, man,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Texas is too good. Uh, arch is arch Manning.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Is he is that guy. We'll see, we'll see. I'm with.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: He did we did.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: He looked a whole lot better than the last year.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: But man, I don't know. I don't know. Next up,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Auburn comes to Neveland.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Alex Golish.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's a pretty good storyline right there.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: That's student teacher, you know.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I still think we I think we get that one.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I think we start out five.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, but I think that I think this one goes
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: to o T. I think we're for one.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I can I'm I'm on board with that one too, Okay.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I think I think we might edge Abbret out in talent. Yeah,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: this is and I don't know, I don't know what
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Auburn's roster looks like I don't know. I follow us
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: in the off season, and that's it, right, right, So
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know what Auburn's gonna look like. But I
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: think Alex Golish makes a big enough difference. He made
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: a big enough Excuse me, he makes a big enough
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: He made a big enough difference for South Florida rather
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: they competed with Bama two years in a row.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so why.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't he make that difference with us? Facts, I think
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: it's a competitive game, but I think I think we'll
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: beat Auburn.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you there.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Put this game at Jordan Hare and then I'd probably
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: probably flip right right.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: So this is where I have a and I hate
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to say it, but this is where I have us
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: picking up our first loss. We got to go to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Arkansas again, mm hmm. Historically that is a very hard
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: place for us to play. Yeah, new head coach, really
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and truly you kind of look at their schedule. That's
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: one of their first big home games. I just I
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: don't know, I hate I hate to pick that one
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: because here's the thing. Do you take this is a
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: bad loss? If we take it? Yeah, you know, I would.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Rather we usually do at Arkansas and Faville. We we
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: typically we typically fall. I don't think we do it
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So I've got us would I would.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Feel more well or I would I would feel more
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: confident in taking the in saying that we will lose
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: to Auburn than Arkansas.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So right now, though I've got us five one,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you got us four two? Yeah?
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Uh no, No, my only loss is Texas so far.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah, you're right, you're right. We both
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: got well hold on, yeah, okay, so we both got
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: us five to one right now, we just have different losses. Yeah,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: different losses. Okay, So Bama, Bama comes to town next.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna you gotta pick it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: God, I'm not.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Gonna I'm not gonna well, I'm not gonna put the bad,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the bad juju on us. Uh So I'm gonna take
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take us to beat Bama.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Man, it's hard. It's hard to not say it because
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: we have beat them the last two trips. They made
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: an obstacle. Yes, so I'm with you on that one
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: six to one. Here's the next, here's one, here's another one.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Our road schedule sucks ass this year because we gotta
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: go to South Carolina after Alabama Wolf. So I don't know.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know then.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: What last time, last time we were down there?
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Thanks Connor Stallions.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was I made that trip. You
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: made that trip, went down there. Great stadium, very intimidating crowd. Uh.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I want to say this just for all the Ohio
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: State fans that may ever hear this. I've been to
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: a night game at South Carolina and at Ohio State.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: South Carolina way more intimidated by orders of magnitude, more intimidating.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm clipping that. I'm clipping that, no doubt, clip.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Clipping if you want to. Yeah, didn't Ohio State beat
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: our ass? Okay, Ohio State beat our ass because they
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: had NFL players on that roster, all the way down
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: the lineup, everywhere you looked. I saw it the first
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: few snaps of football that they had bigger, stronger, faster.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Guy watch, how could you not?
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: They did not beat us because of that crowd or
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: that stadium. There was nothing about that stadium it was.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: It looks good. It's a it's a it's a good
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: looking stadium. That is it it is not intimidating whatsoever.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: South Carolina far more intimidating, far more intimidating.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can see. It's hard. It's you know,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: it's hard. Whenever you're out there at night and you
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: hear I don't care if I ever hear sandstorm again,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: don't care.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I'll say this. It's like you come to you come
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: to ut Knotsville, and it's like a mid Tennessee team
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: in Knotsville could be a good team, but just because
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: of the environment. A mead Ohio State team, which we've
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: never we've never, we've never seen it in our lives.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: A Middle High State team, they're always really good. But
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: a midd Ohio State team, right, could not use home
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: field advantage to their favor. They cannot beat a good
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: team right with home build. They just couldn't. It's not
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: that it's not that good. It's nothing great, right, it's beautiful.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: So a lot of college football history there Ohio State
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: as a stadium.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: All right. So bottom line, you go in winter loss
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: in South Carolina, in Columbia, I'm going to win as.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: The resident, as the resident vall downer, I'll take the.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: L here, Okay, all right, so you're now at six
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: and two.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I'm at six and two.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I've got a seven to one because I'm gonna take
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this one. However, if it's at night,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I'd be willing to flip. I'd be willing to flip
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: if it's a night game in Columbia and you know
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: it will be Oh, oh, it absolutely will be. But
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go seven to one on this one because
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I've got two more losses coming up. Uh, we know
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when we play Kentucky and Eland. W Yeah, sorry,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: absolutely so eight one, seven to two, next one. Okay,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: So the last three games of verse schedule, at least
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: two of the three are gonna be tough. Uh, who's
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: to say three of all three of them won't be.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Who knows what Dandy brings up. And it's crazy to
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: me that we even say that. But we've got to
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: go to Kyle Field, Texas A and M. I've got
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: us dropping that one.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I would I'm I'm good taking that as loss. No,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I'm not good but taking it as lost. But you
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, they were a good team last year.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: They're bringing a lot back and that's a tough place
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: to play, Unlike Ohio Stadium.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Hard, hard place to play, hard place to play, period,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: don't matter time to day, it's hard place to play.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Next one, Lane Kells return to Knoxville with a good
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: L s U team.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: This has lost to me.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: That's where I'm at, and I say it, but on
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: the other side of that one, on the other side
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: of that one, and this is my this is gonna
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: be my one argument to it. Lane loses to a
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: team at least once sometimes twice a year that he
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: shouldn't lose to. Well, that team loaded.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Well, Okay, I don't know are they that good. I
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: don't think we're like that of a team to lose to,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: especially when you have to come to NOx.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: We're not. We're not.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: But he does, he does appear to have this this
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: hour of us. Yeah, yeah, he's got he's got this
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: this this mojo about him. And we we've i mean,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: we've not beating him. He's been here, he's we've played
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: him several times since he left and not we're over.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: But now, granted, outside of that twenty twenty one on
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: this game, he's been with a better team than we were. Okay,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: and he probably is this year too. I mean, that's
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's why, that's that's the only
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: argument I would have for revolves when in this one
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: it is it's at home and Lane typically tends to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: drop one he's not supposed to, because who's to say
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: we're not Who's to say we're not sitting at you know,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: six and four at this point in the season, you know,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: because it's a possibility to whether we want to admit
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: it or not. Who's say we're not sitting at six
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: and four and just hoping for hoping for something good
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: to happen. And this is that something good? Because LSU
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: at that at that point, their schedule is not hard.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Their schedule is not hard. They'll sit they could be
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: coming in at you know, ten and oh nine and
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: one who knows, you know, well, here would be something.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Here's something I want to pose to you. Okay, you
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: know why LSU schedule is not hard ahead because they're good.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's true.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: You know why our schedule is hard.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Because we're not good.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Because we're not good. Your schedule is a lot harder
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: when you suck, you know, though.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: My thing is, man, is I think I think we're
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: one of those teams that we're not as bad as
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: some of our fan base thinks we are. We're also
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: not as good as some of our fan base thinks
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: we thinks we will be.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like right now you and I are on
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: the same track to an extent. But you've got Okay,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: so you got l s U as a loss.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take until until we until we exercise that
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin demon. I'm just gonna yeah, I'm just gonna
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna put that one as a loss.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: So at this point, both of us have got us.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Uh what eight and three nine? Two?
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: No, No, No, we got.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I've got We're both sitting at eight and three.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: What all right? So last up Vanderbilt at Van in Nashville. Uh.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be the first to say this,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: but I think Vanderbilt takes a step back. I don't
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: think I don't think it's Vanderbilt. It was a flash
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: in the bank.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's that's where I'm at too, man Like.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: It's it's hard to not I'm sorry, and I don't
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: mean this in a bad way, Actually I do. It's
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: hard to take Vanderbilt football serious. I'm sorry it is.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: They had two good years with with Pavia uh and
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: dude just got cut by the fucking Ravers Ravens because
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: he couldn't see over the damn steering wheel on the
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: golf cart.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: All right, No, no, he's gone. But he's gone. Is
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Clark Lee? A? Is Clark Lee that good of a coach?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: And b like, did they get enough momentum in one
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: or two good seasons of of an Aisle era not
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: really football to to justify like any any any sort
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: of hope.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Now they didn't get that five star quarterback Jared Curtis.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but but he's gonna matter when you got
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: two and three stars around him that don't.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: He's Yeah, he's gonna be the starter. They're gonna start
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: him day one, right and so bye week by day
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: you know, week thirteen? Is he gonna be Either he's
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: either he's a everything they say. Either he's the five
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: star that they say is or be.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: We don't know, he's Jay Cutler. You know Jay Cutler
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: was pretty good too, but or okay, okay, okay, okay,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: here we go. Either he's everything they say they are,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: He's Jordan Rodgers. There you go, Okay, I feel like
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's fair.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not saying that Jared Curtis isn't a good quarterback,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: but as a true freshman, if he if he goes
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: down the gauntlet of the SEC, by the end of
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: the season, he's either that awesome. He's either a he's
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: either the a future number one overall draft pick, or
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: he's already had a bad freshman year.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: That's either way. Either way, he's still But.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I think we I think we'd bet Bandy this year.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm with you. So I think we both
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: got his finish in nine to three, and I think
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: we both feel like that could be optimistic. I think
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: ten and two's the ceiling.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Brother, I was very optimistic on that one.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I figured you were. I do think ten and two's
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the ceiling. I think Arkansas is the game. That is
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: the difference between nine and three ten to two. I
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: also think that there's a real possible we start out
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: uh the SEC play four. I mean that's the way
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: We've got Yeah, I'm dude, I think not nine and
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: three is my ceiling. It's my floor. It's my floor.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: To be happy with Josh Appel, but it's my ceiling.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: As far as what I think we will finish. There
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: were there were, there were several wins there.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: It's iffy. It's iffy both ways.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Several wins I gave us that I think are I
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: don't know. Auburn. I think I think we could lose.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I think we could lose.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Auburn South Carolina.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I think we could we could lose Bama. I'm not
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: picking it as a loss because, like you said, third
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: trade trip to Knoxville, let's go, let's get another one. Yeah,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I'm hungry for another win against Maama and Knoxville. But
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: we could very well be a loss.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Now all this say, all this to me though, and
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm gonna throw this out there. I
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: feel like this season has got twenty twenty two vibes.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like twenty twenty two, if you go back
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: to it, we weren't expected to be as good as
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: we were. Everybody thought, well, you know, they could be
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: pretty good. I don't think anybody picked us to be
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: bad that season because we had so much coming back.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: We had. We had a good quarterback coming back in
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I think quarterback is the one spot this year that
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: everybody that and the defense is a unit. I think
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: those are the two spots that are that are keeping
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: everybody from being like, you know what, Tennessee could be
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: a fringe playoff team this year.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the one spot that all eyes are on
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: the quarterback. Yeah, all eyes It goes for every team
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: that's ever existed. But what I'm what I mean is
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: we can't beat the ship out of Furman and think
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: whoever the quarterback is at that time is the guy. Yeah,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: we'll we'll definitely see. We'll definitely see both against Furman.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I think we'll see both of Georgie through the first
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: three games.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Honestly, for Tech, we we well, what I'm saying is
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: what what we see through those first three games, we
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: cannot rely on. No, no, we can't rely on We
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: can't rely on anything until we see what happens against
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Texas at home. Whichever whichever quarterback understand that for that
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: for for the first snap against Texas, that that's the
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: quarterback we need to that that's that, you know, that's
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: what we'll we'll see. We can't when when when Faizon
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Brandon comes in against uh Kennesaw State and throws five
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: touchdowns in the second half. Yeah, we can't be like
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Yep. Uh huh right right, it's uh. I don't know, man,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be fun this year. It's weird to
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: me that we don't have Florida and Georgia on the schedule.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: It sucks. It sucks. I'm gonna talk about that for
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: a second. It sucks. I hate. I hate that those
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: teams are not on our schedule anymore. I really do.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: It sucks the most because we lost to Georgia the
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: way we did. Yeah, the last time they were they
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: were a permanent opponent. Ah. We'll never hit that one back.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: That that that goes up there with the one of
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: the most painful losses of my of my memory.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Possibly the most painful loss.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: It was up there. It was up there.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: But it sucks them.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I do think though, Bama is a must for us
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: this year because it's at home.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I gotta win this one.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think that one's debatable. I think we need
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: to get Texas at home. But if we don't, we don't.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: I would here here.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think we do.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Here's one for you, though, are you taking beating Texas
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: at home or or kiffing it in Knoxville.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Like, if I had to pick one as a win, Yeah,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: if you had to.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Pick one or the other, which one you dealing with?
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I see, I would go with that because Texas and
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: and here's me thinking, like big picture, we can we
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: can afford an early year law, an early season lost
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: to Texas, that LSU game later on in the year,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: depending on how we positioned ourselves, that could be the
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: difference in you know, okay, we're you know ten and two,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: were we finished ten and two. To me, we finished
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: ten and two. That LSU game is one we take
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: because I remember it's late. Yeah, that's one's gonna matter. No,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. That's what I'm saying is I'm with you.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I'm with it because like we're talking about the school
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: that just fired their coach and they got a new
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: coach versus a school that's where Sarcagian has been established.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: At Texas, They've got they've got all this coming back
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: there there. I'm thinking more Texas is loaded.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, though, you know you hear all the time, well,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Texas is the real yout you know, warned it down well,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: that's not true at all. No, it's not, it's not.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: But you know that's that's one. That's one like to me,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: that's a bragging rights game. That's not a that doesn't
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: that doesn't make or breaker season.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: You know, well, no, those see those bragging white those
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: bragging rights happened three hundred years ago. Uh you T,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Tennessee is the real you T?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what happens in that in that game.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: But they are better football team than us, right right,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: and they have a better coach than us. I won't
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I won't even say arguably a better coach. They have
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: the better coach.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Really you think so? I mean he's proved, he's proved
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: a lot though, Like yes, you know, okay, that'd.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Be so that would be interesting. How many coaches are
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: we gonna line up head to head this year and
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: say Haipple is the better coach.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I think there's only Sark two on the scale. I
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: think those are your two.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not convinced the Board is not a better coach.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think he is. And it ain't because of
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: where he's at. It's not because of where he's at.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Aipples two and one against him.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not convinced Galish isn't a better coach.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: We'll find out a lot in that one. We're gonna
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: learn a lot that game, whether we want to learn
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: it or not. It's gonna be like that movie bird
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Box where they're like, you know what I'm saying, We're
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: gonna learn a lot that game.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: But we've not had that sense of dominance really since
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Golish left.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: We've not. We've not. Man, It's just it's gonna be
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a fun year though, whether
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: we win, loser, draw, I think it's gonna be a
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: fun year. Now.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Oh uh yeah uh. Anyway, they still might beat us,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: but you're right, you're right.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: So imagine being a South Carolina fan.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: And screaming go Cocks. I know, I cook.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: It's gay just being stuck with Shane Beemer as the
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: coaching Oh it is like he's gonna he's gonna win
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: enough to stay at South Carolina.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like that's that. That's the that's the standard
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: of you never getting rid of it. That is the
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: most meaty ocre football program in the country. Literally, they
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: have like a five hundred record, one way or the other.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So AnyWho, uh steves ten years to make anything
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: out of that program.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: It did, it did, and all for Shane Bieber and
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: will must championship on it.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I'd rather have God. I couldn't imagine being stuck with
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: much champ either, but out of way, the point being God,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: that must.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: That much suck. It sucks. So final thoughts on the season.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I think you and I are both kind of We're
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: on the same We're on the same mindset this year.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I'm taking however you're you're you're saying you're optimistic, and
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I'm taking more of a optimist approach, so approach. So
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's uh. And we've got the same record.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, we've got the same records.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Twelve and oh because I know better.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: My record to my my record's off to Moss's. I
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: don't mind. I don't think that five five wins is
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: probably off the table. I don't think six wins is
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: off the table. A six and six record, I don't
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: think it's off the table at all.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think there's a world with
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: this schedule. I'm tough, but there's not six teams on
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: this schedule. I think that beat us. We got the first.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I think we're better than South Carolina. We're better than Kentucky,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: We're better than Manby. Those are those are my six.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: If I had to pick six guaranteed wins out of
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: this schedule, and I'm not guaranteeing of myself, if I
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: had to pick six, those are my six.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: I would agree. I would agree with those that were
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: absolutely better than Do you think we lose to a
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: team that we're not better than?
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta go. We got to go on the
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: road to one of them. That's South Carolina. That's that's
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: one that I think we could lose. That I really
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: think we'd lose.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: So you're in the teams, do you think we're better
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: than we're five and one? Yeah, five and one, potentially
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: six and O five and one potentially six and right
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: the teams that we probably aren't better than.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean with the exception of Arkansas. Let's say,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: let's say with the.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Exception of that team, yeah, man, yeah, see, so you
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: feel the same way about Arkansas that I do about
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: South Carolina. And I actually I don't even know if
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: I've seen us win at Arkansas. Uh, to be confident
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: and winning that game, I just don't, just more so
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: it's Arkansas.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: When we get into the season preview and we start
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: breaking down these games, I go through series history, We'll
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. We'll talk about that, because it's
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: been it's been a hot minute since we won in Fayetteville. Okay, So.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think six and six is well on the
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: table for us.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think six and six is well. I
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: think I think six and six is. I think ten
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: and two is. I think six and six is more likely.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think ten and two is the only two
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: games that I could see us ropping for sure if
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, if I'm picking ten and two and
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'm gonna let them hang. The
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: only two I could see us dropping for sure Texas
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: and LSU. I think we've got a better offense than Texas.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: A and M has a defense. BAMA comes to Knoxville.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: I think we're better than South Carolina. I think we
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: do something where probably a lot of people will say, well,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: you're not supposed to go to Arkansas and win because
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: of how things have been. I think that's when we get.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: The rest of them are games we should win. I mean,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: that's just my thought. But I'm not saying that's gonna happen.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: I'm saying if it, well, if we were ten and
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: two at the end of the season, I would say
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: those are probably the two teams two games we lost. Yeah,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Texas and LSU.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I could I could see that, Yeah, yeah, because they're
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: both at home.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think ten and two's on the
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: table for us. I really don't.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I really I think I think by the time Texas
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: leaves Neland about five pm on a Saturday, on that Saturday,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: will know what we'll know what to expect the rest
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: of the way.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that that's that's gonna go ahead.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: No, go ahead, go ahead, you finished, go ahead.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: That Texas is Texas is going to be when we know.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: When we know what we are, and we'll either be
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: really happy or we're going to be like, oh ship,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: this could be a long year.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: That being said, though, let's close this one out with
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: a go down, Valls, and we're gonna jump into our
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: game by game break down here shortly h