Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Ted Waitt And The Transcript From His Epstein Related Trip To Congress (Part 1) (7/28/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to keep the
- 0:06Speaker 1: Congressional transcript party going and we're going to start taking
- 0:09Speaker 1: a look at the transcript from the interview with Ted Waite,
- 0:13Speaker 1: and like usual, we're going to skip the whole swearing
- 0:16Speaker 1: in part and get right to mister Waite and his
- 0:18Speaker 1: opening statement. Mister Wade, Good morning, members of the Committee
- 0:22Speaker 1: and staff. My name is Ted Waite. I was born
- 0:25Speaker 1: and raised in Sioux City, Iowa, the son of a
- 0:28Speaker 1: fourth generation cattleman. While I did not follow my family
- 0:31Speaker 1: into the cattle business, my own career began on my
- 0:34Speaker 1: family's ranch. In nineteen eighty five, I co founded the
- 0:37Speaker 1: personal computer company Gateway in the empty upper floor of
- 0:41Speaker 1: a farmhouse on my father's ranch. Twenty years later, I
- 0:44Speaker 1: retired from Gateway, and since then I've been fortunate to
- 0:48Speaker 1: focus my energy and resources on philanthropy and the causes
- 0:52Speaker 1: nearest to my heart. Chief among those are violence and
- 0:56Speaker 1: prevention and ocean conservation. In two thousand and five, I've,
- 1:00Speaker 1: my sister and I founded the Wait Institute for Violence Prevention,
- 1:03Speaker 1: building on the work the foundation had been doing since
- 1:07Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three. The Institute is focused on combating violence
- 1:11Speaker 1: against women, preventing bullying, and breaking the cycle of violence
- 1:14Speaker 1: that exists in our homes, schools, and communities. At its core,
- 1:18Speaker 1: our work is about disrupting the social norms that accept
- 1:22Speaker 1: violence as part of life. That's why I believe your
- 1:25Speaker 1: current inquiry into Jeffrey Epstein and Glann Maxwell is so important.
- 1:29Speaker 1: For too long, Jeffrey Epstein's crimes were unpunished and were
- 1:33Speaker 1: swept under the rug as part of a culture that
- 1:35Speaker 1: accepted the most unacceptable behavior from rich and powerful people.
- 1:40Speaker 1: I want to acknowledge the victims who are silenced and
- 1:42Speaker 1: ignored and deny justice for too long. I'm hopeful that
- 1:46Speaker 1: this inquiry will lead not only to greater accountability and
- 1:49Speaker 1: justice for victims, but also to a broader public understanding
- 1:54Speaker 1: of the conditions that expose young women to violence and
- 1:57Speaker 1: exploitation across the country and around world. It is in
- 2:01Speaker 1: that spirit that I'm here today voluntarily to answer your questions.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Before I do so, I would like to outline some
- 2:07Speaker 1: key facts about my relationship with miss Maxwell and my
- 2:11Speaker 1: limited interactions with mister Epstein. I first met both Miss
- 2:16Speaker 1: Maxwell and mister Epstein in November of two thousand and three,
- 2:19Speaker 1: at a dinner in Hong Kong. I was traveling Asia
- 2:22Speaker 1: and received the last minute invitation to join a large
- 2:25Speaker 1: group of people at a restaurant. I exchanged contact information
- 2:29Speaker 1: with Miss Maxwell, and we began communicating more regularly over
- 2:33Speaker 1: the next several months. I do not remember having any
- 2:36Speaker 1: conversations with mister Epstein at the dinner beyond a brief introduction.
- 2:41Speaker 1: In two thousand and four, my friendship with Miss Maxwell
- 2:44Speaker 1: developed into a romantic relationship that ultimately lasted until September
- 2:49Speaker 1: of twenty ten. This was a period of immense personal
- 2:53Speaker 1: transition in my life. To put this period mid two
- 2:56Speaker 1: thousand and four into perspective, I was preparing to find
- 2:59Speaker 1: the retire from Gateway after returning to the CEO role
- 3:03Speaker 1: to save the company that I founded. I was separating
- 3:06Speaker 1: from my wife and the mother of my children, and
- 3:08Speaker 1: I was still grieving the unexpected loss of my father
- 3:11Speaker 1: in August of two thousand and three. I can say
- 3:15Speaker 1: unequivocally that if I knew then what I know now
- 3:18Speaker 1: about Miss Maxwell, I never would have befriended her or
- 3:21Speaker 1: allowed her to be around my four children. Three of
- 3:23Speaker 1: whom are girls, and two at that point ranged in
- 3:25Speaker 1: ages from eight to fourteen. I never would have spent
- 3:30Speaker 1: six years in a romantic relationship with her, But when
- 3:33Speaker 1: I look back at that period today, in response to
- 3:36Speaker 1: your questions, I can only speak to what I knew
- 3:38Speaker 1: and what I saw at the time. Throughout our relationship,
- 3:42Speaker 1: I lived in San Diego, Miss Maxwell lived in New York.
- 3:46Speaker 1: As such, we split our time between our respective homes
- 3:49Speaker 1: and traveled together, but also spend frequent stretches of time apart.
- 3:54Speaker 1: I understand that she was employed by mister Absteen as
- 3:57Speaker 1: a property manager of sorts, but I simply do not
- 3:59Speaker 1: have ability into the details. And I avoided mister Ebstein,
- 4:03Speaker 1: both because I found them off putting, but mostly because
- 4:06Speaker 1: he was my girlfriend's ex boyfriend, not somebody that I
- 4:09Speaker 1: was eager to spend time with. Over the course of
- 4:12Speaker 1: my six year relationship with Miss Maxwell, I would estimate
- 4:16Speaker 1: that I interacted with mister Ebstein less than five times,
- 4:19Speaker 1: and each of those were very brief and unintentional. I've
- 4:24Speaker 1: never been inside any of his homes, flown on his airplane,
- 4:27Speaker 1: or been to his island. Period. Last time I spoke
- 4:30Speaker 1: to Miss Maxwell substantively was in September of twenty ten,
- 4:34Speaker 1: when I ended our relationship, and the last time I
- 4:37Speaker 1: saw her was a bit later when we unexpectedly ran
- 4:40Speaker 1: into each other at an ocean conference. I share all
- 4:43Speaker 1: of this with you today because I understand this committee's
- 4:46Speaker 1: work demands candor, and I want to do my part.
- 4:49Speaker 1: I will answer your questions to the best of my recollection,
- 4:52Speaker 1: and I hope that my testimony is helpful. Miss Cathay. Question,
- 4:57Speaker 1: thank you again for appearing voluntarily. We appreciate you being
- 5:00Speaker 1: here today and your testimony, and you're willing to be
- 5:03Speaker 1: truthful with us today. And I just want to start
- 5:05Speaker 1: briefly with some prelim background. You did just jump into
- 5:09Speaker 1: your background a little bit, but starting off simply, where
- 5:12Speaker 1: did you go to undergraduate school? Answer? I went to
- 5:15Speaker 1: undergraduate school briefly at the University of Colorado, then the
- 5:18Speaker 1: University of Iowa. Question and what degrees did you receive?
- 5:22Speaker 1: Their answer? I did not receive a degree. Question and
- 5:26Speaker 1: then you already jumped into your professional career. But is
- 5:29Speaker 1: there anything that you would like to add? Briefly walk
- 5:32Speaker 1: us through the starting of your company and your foundation. Answer?
- 5:36Speaker 1: I left University of Iowa. In November of eighty four,
- 5:39Speaker 1: I went to work in a computer store in Des Moines,
- 5:41Speaker 1: Iowa for roughly nine months, and then in September of
- 5:44Speaker 1: eighty five I moved back to Sioux City to start
- 5:47Speaker 1: Gateway with my friend Mike Hammon. You mentioned that you
- 5:50Speaker 1: first met miss Maxwell at a dinner in Hong Kong
- 5:54Speaker 1: with the Clinton's President. Is that correct? Answer? Yes? Question?
- 5:58Speaker 1: And that was in two thousand and three correct answer, yes. Question.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Can you describe a little bit more about what those
- 6:04Speaker 1: circumstances were? Answer? Did you say, excuse me? Did you
- 6:08Speaker 1: say the Clinton's president? Question? Were the Clinton's President at
- 6:11Speaker 1: this dinner? Answer? At dinner only Bill Clinton? Question only
- 6:14Speaker 1: President Clinton? Thank you? And this was in two thousand
- 6:17Speaker 1: and three. Answer yeah, November of two thousand and three.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Question are there any details that we left out of
- 6:23Speaker 1: your initial statement that you would like to add surrounding
- 6:26Speaker 1: the circumstances of that event? Who invited you to that event?
- 6:30Speaker 1: For example? Answer? I was invited to the event by
- 6:33Speaker 1: Doug Band. Question and were you and Doug Band close? Answer?
- 6:37Speaker 1: I knew Doug. Question did President Clinton know you were attending? Answer?
- 6:41Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been privy to that information. I assume
- 6:44Speaker 1: Doug would have told him, but I don't know for sure.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Question and you never met Miss Maxwell prior to this dinner? Answer? No,
- 6:51Speaker 1: I had not, mister Spector. What was the purpose of
- 6:55Speaker 1: the event, mister Waite, President Clinton was traveling with a
- 6:58Speaker 1: large delegation around age and it was just a dinner,
- 7:02Speaker 1: mister Spector. Was it a fundraiser? Mister Waite, it was
- 7:05Speaker 1: not a fundraiser. It was a typical Clinton dinner. A
- 7:07Speaker 1: lot of people there, Miss Cathay. Question did you interact
- 7:11Speaker 1: with President Clinton during the dinner? Answer? Yeah, I will
- 7:14Speaker 1: seated next to him. Question what kinds of conversations were
- 7:17Speaker 1: y'all having? Answer? I don't recall any specific conversation. It was,
- 7:21Speaker 1: you know, just a social dinner. Question who introduced you
- 7:25Speaker 1: to Miss Maxwell at the dinner? Answer? I don't recall exactly.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Question do you recall the first conversation you had with her? Answer? Yeah,
- 7:33Speaker 1: it was later on, shortly before I left dinner, I believe. Question,
- 7:37Speaker 1: mister Spector, do you recall who else was at the
- 7:39Speaker 1: table with you and President Clinton? Answer? There was a
- 7:43Speaker 1: number of people. There was a very very large group.
- 7:46Speaker 1: There were quite a few people it was a very
- 7:48Speaker 1: typical Clinton affair. Question but neither Maxwell or Epstein were
- 7:52Speaker 1: at the table. Answer No, they were both at the table.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Question Oh they were answer yeah, question okay, answer like
- 7:59Speaker 1: I mentioned my opening statement. Sorry Callen jumps in one
- 8:02Speaker 1: of the other people asking questions. Yeah, specter understood. Back
- 8:07Speaker 1: to Miss Cathay asking questions. And to clarify, that was
- 8:11Speaker 1: the first time that you had met Epstein at the dinner?
- 8:14Speaker 1: Answer yes. Question do you recall the first conversation you
- 8:18Speaker 1: had with mister Epstein? Answer? I don't really recall having
- 8:21Speaker 1: a direct conversation with him. Question do you recall who
- 8:24Speaker 1: introduced you to mister Epstein? Answer? I don't recall. I
- 8:28Speaker 1: think I was introduced when I walked in. I walked
- 8:30Speaker 1: in late, the dinner was already kind of in progress,
- 8:33Speaker 1: so I don't recall exactly who introduced me. I think
- 8:36Speaker 1: I was introduced to them. So, miss Callen, And just
- 8:39Speaker 1: to clarify, mister Waite, did you travel with the group
- 8:42Speaker 1: he sort of met the group there, mister wait yeah,
- 8:46Speaker 1: Miss Cathay understood, thank you. Question following the dinner, did
- 8:50Speaker 1: you get any kind of contact information from Miss Maxwell
- 8:53Speaker 1: or did that happen later on. Answer yeah, I got
- 8:56Speaker 1: a confirmation and information at that Dinnerquestion and who asked you?
- 9:01Speaker 1: Who asked who? On the first date? How was the
- 9:04Speaker 1: relationship initiated? Answer I don't recall specifically. At some point
- 9:08Speaker 1: we had dinner in New York. Question do you remember
- 9:11Speaker 1: when that was? Answer? I believe that was December. Question
- 9:15Speaker 1: do you know the year? Answer that was December of
- 9:17Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Question two thousand and three. Broadly speaking,
- 9:21Speaker 1: taking a step back, how would you characterize your relationship
- 9:24Speaker 1: with miss Maxwell? Answer? She was my girlfriend starting in
- 9:28Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Question in two thousand and four.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Answer yeah. Question you don't feel like your relationship began
- 9:34Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, then answer I met her
- 9:37Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, but it became more serious
- 9:39Speaker 1: in two thousand and four. Question did the nature of
- 9:42Speaker 1: your relationship change over the years? Answer? Not really. There
- 9:46Speaker 1: were a few breaks a couple of times, but it
- 9:48Speaker 1: was I wouldn't say it didn't change significantly, mister spector.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Question what were the reasons for the breaks? Answer for
- 9:56Speaker 1: the breakups? Question yeah, answer it was time, so I
- 10:00Speaker 1: was never going to marry her, and it was just
- 10:01Speaker 1: one of those things, I was getting pressure from her friends,
- 10:05Speaker 1: or it was just time it had run its course.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Question that sounds like you're talking about in twenty ten
- 10:11Speaker 1: when you ended it. Answer yeah. Question. But if you
- 10:14Speaker 1: had breaks between during the years that you dated, what
- 10:17Speaker 1: were the reasons for those? Answer? The primary reason was
- 10:21Speaker 1: I was going through a divorce. It was a very
- 10:24Speaker 1: emotional time. I was quitting my job. I had four
- 10:26Speaker 1: kids that were my number one priority. I had custody
- 10:29Speaker 1: of them every other week, and that was my biggest priority,
- 10:32Speaker 1: was to spend time with my kids. Questions so nothing
- 10:35Speaker 1: to do with suspicions surrounding Maxwell's activities? Answer no question.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Miss cat Day was Miss Maxwell's single when you met her?
- 10:45Speaker 1: Answer yeah. Question and was she single when you went
- 10:48Speaker 1: on the first date in two thousand and three? Answer
- 10:51Speaker 1: I believe so. Question did you or Miss Maxwell ever
- 10:54Speaker 1: present yourself as a couple to those around you prior
- 10:57Speaker 1: to two thousand and three? Answer no question. I'd like
- 11:01Speaker 1: to introduce now, and it'll be passed out in a minute.
- 11:03Speaker 1: What will be marked as majority Exhibit number one, the
- 11:06Speaker 1: transcript from the direct examination of a woman who we
- 11:09Speaker 1: will refer to as Jane Doe and that was. She
- 11:12Speaker 1: previously worked as a legal assistant for Epstein in Company,
- 11:16Speaker 1: and then later she was an executive assistant to Miss
- 11:19Speaker 1: Maxwell for six years. The transcript is marked at the
- 11:22Speaker 1: bottom corner of the page EFT number ending sixty six
- 11:26Speaker 1: one five, and will be looking at page eighty five
- 11:28Speaker 1: of that transcript, which will be marked at the top
- 11:31Speaker 1: of the page. The blue numbers at the top will
- 11:33Speaker 1: be the page numbers. It should actually be the second
- 11:36Speaker 1: page in this packet. Behind that cover page. There will
- 11:39Speaker 1: be eighty five at the top of it. It should
- 11:41Speaker 1: say answer, oh, eighty five question and will be looking
- 11:45Speaker 1: at line seven through thirteen, and y'all can take a
- 11:48Speaker 1: moment to look at that and will pause the clock
- 11:51Speaker 1: and you can let us know when you're ready to
- 11:52Speaker 1: move forward. Mister Squadny, one of the lawyers for mister Waite,
- 11:58Speaker 1: I'm sorry you said page eighty five, Cathay. It should
- 12:01Speaker 1: be at the top labeled in blue ink, page eighty five,
- 12:04Speaker 1: mister Waite, I'm not seeing that, Miss Cathay, Paige eighty
- 12:07Speaker 1: five of two hundred. Mss Callan jumps in what line Squadney?
- 12:13Speaker 1: Oh you found it? Wait? Oh, my name's here. So
- 12:15Speaker 1: this is page eighty five. It's just not labeled in blue.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Miss Cathay, I apologize. I think this was printed with
- 12:22Speaker 1: more pages than is necessary. So it's page eighty five
- 12:26Speaker 1: and we're looking at line seven through thirteen, and you
- 12:29Speaker 1: can just take a look at it and let us
- 12:31Speaker 1: know when you're ready to move on, mister Waite, I'm ready. Question. So,
- 12:35Speaker 1: Miss Doe claims in that testimony that you and Miss
- 12:38Speaker 1: Maxwell began seeing each other as a couple in two
- 12:40Speaker 1: thousand and one or two thousand and two, which is
- 12:42Speaker 1: right before she stopped working for Miss Maxwell. Do you
- 12:46Speaker 1: have any reason to know why Miss Doe is accurate
- 12:48Speaker 1: in this timeline. She seems to claim that you knew
- 12:51Speaker 1: each other and we're dating in two thousand and one
- 12:54Speaker 1: or two thousand and two. Answer, I do not. Question,
- 12:57Speaker 1: so you have no reason to suspect that anyone would
- 13:00Speaker 1: have thought the two of you were a couple before
- 13:02Speaker 1: this answer? Could you clarify I did not meet Miss
- 13:05Speaker 1: Maxwell until November of two thousand and three. Question understood.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Miss Maxwell also testified in her DJ testimony that you
- 13:13Speaker 1: met in two thousand and three, but she said that
- 13:15Speaker 1: she couldn't quite remember. So is there any reason that
- 13:18Speaker 1: you could surmise of why your assistant would think that
- 13:21Speaker 1: the two of you had known each other, or we're
- 13:23Speaker 1: seeing each other, or were associated prior to two thousand
- 13:26Speaker 1: and three. Answer, I do not know. Question how long
- 13:30Speaker 1: were you in a romantic relationship with miss Maxwell for
- 13:33Speaker 1: the clarity of the record, answer from early two thousand
- 13:37Speaker 1: and four through September twenty ten. All right, folks, we're
- 13:40Speaker 1: gonna wrap up right here, and in the next episode
- 13:42Speaker 1: dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where we
- 13:44Speaker 1: left off. All the information that goes with this episode
- 13:48Speaker 1: can be found in the description box.