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Pencils Down · Pop Culture Junkie®

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[Music]
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Hello dear listeners!
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Welcome back!
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We are back to the Pop Culture Junkie Podcast.
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This is going to be an exciting episode for the Pop Culture Junkies.
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Starting things off, I am Shauna and I am joined by my usual Junkie.
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Nicole.
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And it is my honor and pleasure to introduce all of you to our newest junkie, Olivia
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Rodi.
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We're excited to have you.
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Awesome.
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I am so excited to be here with you guys today.
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And forever more.
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You're not going anywhere.
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Shauna knows I am quite hard to get rid of.
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I am just just latching on after all these years.
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I thought I had been trying to give a rash.
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I am just kidding.
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You are a lovely rash.
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Yeah.
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A welcome rash.
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I don't know if there is a welcome rash.
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Well, we'll take that as my intro.
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Shauna would describe me as a welcome rash amongst pop culture.
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Really here to give you all the CD conspiracy, all the blind items and the things they don't
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want to print.
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But yeah, I am really excited to be here.
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Shauna and I are both big, Buffy the Vampire Slayer fans.
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Anything true blood.
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And, you know, slowly but surely I have convinced her to become a Swiftie, but she won't tell
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you that.
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I'm not sure if I'm going to take the title of Swiftie on yet.
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I'm like, "Swiftie Light."
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I'm like the Diet Coke.
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I'm like, "You're engaging with the idea of it."
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I am flirting with being a Swiftie.
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And then I'm going to convince you to be a little monster and get you on that Gaga train.
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I think you could do that.
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I think you could do that.
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I like enough, you know, drag shows.
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We love a performance in this household.
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So, you know, ultimate performer.
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We love the guys here, popular, gentle, fast, fast.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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So I know a lot about you because we are best friends.
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That's easy.
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But to everybody else listening and Nicole, what else are you into?
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What kind of shows do you like to watch besides Buffy and Taylor's?
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Who else do you listen to?
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Yeah.
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So, you know, I would say quite a hodgepodge of different things, you know, when I was younger.
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I was really quite a Josie and the Pussycats girl.
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If you know, you know, that album is absolutely iconic.
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Most people I think would describe me as a horror movie obsessed, true crime lover.
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And then really just like quirky conspiracy theory girl here, you know, none of the harmful
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stuff.
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We don't need to go down a rabbit hole of Q and on.
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But like the fun ones like Avril LeBene is a clone or those really silly ones where you
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can have fun and get lost in it.
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But overall, I would say anything witchy, anything spooky, and anything just gossip related.
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Because you know, a girl loves to gossip.
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Yes.
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Nicole is our tree prime junkie here too.
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Oh my gosh.
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I could talk forever without him.
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You're probably better than I am at it.
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I'm not like an expert, but I enjoy it.
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I just am like, so chronically online and I work from home.
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And so because of that, it's truly like I just cannot not listen to like YouTube things
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and things like that.
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We had a whole episode years ago to dedicate it to like conspiracy theories.
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And one of them was the Avril LeBene has been replaced one.
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And then we had, you know, that two-pock is alive on an island.
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Do you remember any of the other ones we had Nicole?
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Yeah.
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Mine was Michael Jackson's still alive.
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Yes.
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It's always like an Elvis is still alive, like Princess Diana's still alive.
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I liked the Katy Perry and a JonBenet Ramsay are the same person.
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That's interesting.
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That one is actually really crazy.
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Whenever you get into it, you're like, wait, what?
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You don't like tipping like this is bullshit.
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And then by being like, wait a minute.
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So you caw.
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No, I mean she did hate her parents, baby.
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Like, you never know.
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That's, yeah, that's pretty crazy.
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What's another one?
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Britney Spears is dead for sure.
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Sean is a big believer in that.
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I got Sean to down this rabbit hole and then I just was like, I can't do it anymore.
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No, I think she's dead.
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I am deep in Britney TikTok for sure.
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I just saw this one.
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I'm sure you seen it too.
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It's like where she's like moving her hands in front of her face.
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And you could see her face completely changed and they're like, yeah, there's an AI filter
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on her.
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Like, it's a green screen behind her.
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Like, the yellow color is in the background completely moved out of the frame and pictured
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doesn't even move at all.
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It's like, okay, I believe she's dead.
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I do.
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The follow up to that is someone super imposed Jamie Lynn on the part where like the eyes
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change and it looks exactly like her.
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Sean, I said to you, I don't think you're going to be able to do it.
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Yeah, you did.
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Okay.
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I said a shocked emoji like, oh, okay.
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But yeah, I was like, I was deep.
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It like brought me back in.
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But, you know, one of the things I also love is really like tarot as well and like anything
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witchy.
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And so there's this celebrity pop culture readers names and for Dirty.
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And he does all these readings that end up coming true.
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And he is like a giant Brittany fan.
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And so he did one.
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And basically he was like, it's more so that she's like trying to like ruin her image so
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people can't like make money off of her.
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That was like his reading of it.
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But I thought that was really interesting.
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You know what?
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I can totally see that because I'm not convinced that she's dead.
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Like I think it has heard dancing in the videos, but I think that they were all shot probably
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at the same time and a long time ago.
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The show post, like the same video over and over again.
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And like the same outfit doing, I don't know, it's weird.
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And then she'll post them like weeks later.
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So I don't think she's dead, but I think that she's purposefully kind of posting weird shit.
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I don't know.
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She doesn't want anyone to have control over it.
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And so she's like fine, I'll just host things that people think I'm too cute for coca-pops
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for.
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Mm-hmm.
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One of the crazy things that I didn't really realize this at the time.
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So like when Frubert me first started, the initial beginning of it is she was like twirling
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and something like that.
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And she has a hat.
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And whenever she goes to put the hat on her head, there's like a tiny, tiny little help me
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on the hat.
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And so that was, people saw that years and years and years ago.
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And then it started the actual Frubert movement.
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So it is kind of like, oh my gosh, she's actually sending its messages through these things,
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right?
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And so when you think about that and really look at it, it's like, okay, well she knows
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that she can send signals this way.
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And that her fans are going to watch and take it apart.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, but I mean, if you could drugged on lithium for more than like six months, sans 13 years,
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you know, your brain's going to be messed up, right?
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Like your brain isn't the same.
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You've just ruined it, you know?
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So she's got that going on in trauma.
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And then it's also like, is there like this secret message she's sending as well?
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But the three of us need to like get together and find Brittany and solve this mystery.
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You guys are going to be like the pop culture junkie mystery machine.
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Yeah.
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I love that.
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One, one really popular one as well that a lot of people aren't as aware of is the free
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band movement as well.
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So you've probably seen a lot of like news stories of like, bam losing his mind on his
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family members and he's broken out of rehab.
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Bambarger, yeah, from Jackass.
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And so he's had a lot of the same like really Britney treatment where it's like, he's crazy.
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He's like all this stuff, but it's come out that his family has been abusing his conservatorship
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as well.
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How did he get into the conservatorship in the first place?
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Yeah.
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So when Ryan done a from Jackass died, bam went into like a deep alcoholism.
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So like he did need treatment, right?
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Yeah.
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They put him into treatment and then, you know, over time, they put him into a conservatorship
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and they just kept putting him in.
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They made him spend like $600,000 on rehab in the last 18 months.
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That is own money.
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It's, yes.
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She does.
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Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
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I'll have to do like a deep dive one day of like the whole thing, but there is a lot
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of this like TMZ calling these people crazy when like it's, it's who's puppeteering
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that message for them ultimately.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, that pisses me off so much when we just kind of have this so and so crazy and man
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defines this crazy and like she obviously needs help you guys like just calling her out
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for the goofy shit that she's doing and like, you know, I'm not going to put myself on a pedestal
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when I see she's wandering the streets and make it.
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I'll read those articles too.
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Like what is going on?
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But yeah, at the end of the day, I mean, it's like Aaron Carter.
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He obviously needed a lot of help, but all we did was just kind of pick him apart about.
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Oh my gosh.
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Did you watch that new documentary on Hulu about him?
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Yeah, I thought yes.
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Oh, it's, it was actually done in pretty well taste, I think, but yeah, it was just really
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sad.
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They gave him his flowers quite a bit of like you were able to like pave the way for like
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a Justin Bieber and all this stuff, but they did talk about the House of Carter's episode
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where like him and Nick got super physical and just kind of like the improper home life
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but he really had and how he didn't stand a chance.
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But man, I'm going to have to add that to my watch list.
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It was good.
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It was good.
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So what else have you guys been watching this week?
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Nicole, have you been bingeing anything new or what's taken up your time this week?
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Gosh, I feel like I haven't been watching very much.
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I've just been watching sports.
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It's playoff season for hockey and basketball.
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Yeah, it goes on.
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Yeah, and but I have been keeping up weekly bit the real houseways of New Jersey.
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That's like the one show that I will watch.
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It's kind of crazy.
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A lot has been happening.
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I don't even know where to start.
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Teresa, if you know, you know, she is a different kind of crazy than what we were just
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talking about.
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She just is manipulative and tries to make everyone else look bad when she's the one in the
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wrong.
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But nothing's going to change.
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She's been on the show for the beginning and she's been the same ever since.
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But do you think her sister is actually going to end up leaving?
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Because there are sprue members that they're saying that they don't think they can film anymore.
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Melissa?
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Yeah, after the reunion.
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I guess there was a bit.
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I could see them not coming back.
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I could see that either like Bravo, not I mean, as much as Teresa makes the show, I could see
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them like not giving her a contract or I could see Melissa leaving.
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I could see one of them definitely not coming back.
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Did they get like a fist fight?
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Are you going to say something?
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I don't know.
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We don't know yet.
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They mean having a contract.
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Yeah, but they said it's like Eric yet?
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No, but they said this is like the worst reunion that's ever happened.
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Or that one that has flipped tables.
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So if it's the worst she's ever been like she's saying.
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Who amongst us hasn't flipped Jesus flipped tables?
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It's cool.
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It happened.
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Jesus, I think Jesus was building the tables, but.
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No, look it up in the Bible, Olivia.
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Jesus flipped the tables.
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It's the yesified version of Jesus who stayed.
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So basically Jesus would have fitted with the real housewives.
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Got it.
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Perfect.
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Every time I think of Teresa, I just think of a South Park episode where she's like,
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"Yemeth Gavage."
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That one's so good.
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I'd probably see no one even though you're not a real housewives.
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I'm so behind on.
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So far.
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It's always.
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It's always so far.
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I know.
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It makes me like I haven't watched a new episode since college.
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Like me and Jessica used to binge it in college.
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And then it was like, I don't like that low-brow humor.
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That's a terrible and it was.
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I just see like, "Oh, come on.
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Kim and I watch all of the same shows.
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We do.
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Except for what I'm doing."
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That was a trap.
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That was a trap.
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I'm not falling for this.
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I knew what he liked.
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It was just Pokemon.
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That is it.
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One drag interest.
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Oh, and drag bossy.
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And drag bugling.
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You know, it's a little too in the gutter forum.
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He like says other part to dance.
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I've been watching a lot lately.
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You see here.
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Okay, so one show that I have been binging, because we do watch a lot of the same shows.
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So sometimes when he's not home, I'm like, "I need like a Shawna show."
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So I started love and death with Elizabeth Olsen.
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It was a good--
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It was a good--
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Yes.
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I'm a huge Christian Ritter fan.
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She's probably one of my favorite actresses.
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She's got a small part in it.
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But it is based on a true story of this woman named Handy.
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She's in Texas, and she is a church-going lady, and she sings in the choir, and one of her
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good friends is married to this guy, Alan.
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Handy approaches Alan and just goes, "I found you very attractive."
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Would you like to have an affair?
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Oh, did you see my other ones?
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There's for some reason.
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They've made like three of the-- in the same year of the same story.
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Yeah, with Jessica Beale.
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And that one's just called "Pandy."
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I haven't watched that one.
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It's a true story, so I mean, I guess kind of spoilers, but literally this is based on a true
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story.
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Candy ends up-- I guess, okay, spoiler alert, if you don't want to know what happens in this
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actual crime that happened like 30 years ago.
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You sound like I'm dead.
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We do that so much on this show.
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Well, we halfway through, like, talk, spoil something, and then we'll be like, "Oh, wait,
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actually, by the way, spoiler alert."
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Candy kills Alan's wife with an axe.
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She hacks this bitch.
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Lily Borden.
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Yes, she hacks her butt.
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It's self-defense, maybe.
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But yeah, I would definitely pop love and death.
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Every episode is very well-acted.
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The set pieces are really cool.
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Set in the 70s.
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The costumes are amazing.
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Elizabeth Olson is just a powerhouse.
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But yeah, the whole cast is really great.
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I've also been watching very weak to heat.
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That's one of those shows where we always enjoy it, but it never really blows my mind.
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I'm never like, "Oh, my God, I can't wait for the next episode of Fairy."
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We're always sitting down and we're like, "Oh, yeah, Fairy's new.
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Let's watch it."
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It's the last season.
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Bill Hader is great as usual.
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They're trying to-- I don't know how they're going to wrap this shit up because very easy,
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they're going to go back to J.O.L. or "He has to die."
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I don't know how they're going to do this.
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But I'm going to pop that.
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And then the last show that I want to mention, I'm sorry.
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I'm so much TV.
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I should be on a podcast where I could talk about this show.
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Wow.
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Every time I think about Bill Hader, now I think of Rachel Bilsen saying she never had an orgasm
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until she was with them.
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Now I'm like, "Bill Hader's just got to get a dick you down."
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I feel like Bill Hader has a big dick energy for sure.
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I could see them having a trousers.
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Oh, I mean, Rachel Bilsen just confirmed it.
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Yeah.
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We want to-- he's funny.
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And he has a big dick.
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We'll take it.
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We are going to take it.
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We stand.
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And he's like media-- he's like media, Mockley.
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We're like, you're not like, "Uh, like he's not great, but like he's not a--."
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So I'm sketches in SNL where I'm like, "Oh, Bill Hader can get it."
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And then I watch Barry and I'm like, "Oh, I mean, he can still get it."
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But like, I'm not going to show my friends his picture afterwards and be like, "Look,
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what's that?"
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You're not bragging on that?
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I'm not going to brag on it.
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Only if he consented.
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If he consented to me showing my friends a picture of his big trousers, Nick.
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But yes, I would show it to you guys.
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Honestly, Haley leaves and this turns to like a redid ex-pot.
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I know.
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The minute Haley leaves, we're like, "We're crazy.
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You trousers, say."
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You know what?
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No.
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When Haley was on the show, I literally said, "Which muppets face do you want to sit on?"
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So that's a crazy--
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I was like, "Oh, then you said--."
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"Oh, gone so."
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He's gone so, yes.
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No, he's but the--
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The--
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Yes.
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He's not one, yes.
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So who's better at looking?
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Pete Davidson or Bill Hader?
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Oh, Pete Davidson, for sure.
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Absolutely.
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I think Pete Davidson is so hot.
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We have an episode about that, too.
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I mean, I think Pete Davidson's hot is hot.
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Looks hot because he looks like Hilt Row in my life.
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Like, maybe that's what I just want a little chaos.
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I get energy.
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But like, Bill Hader looks like he's like, "Rap, you want a hot, you know?"
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Just like--
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That's true.
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I need to be like--
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Bill Hader would make love to you.
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Well, Pete Davidson would just dig you down.
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Yeah.
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What do you think, Nicole?
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Neither.
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I should just take it your good.
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Who is later just--
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Who is your like, like, celebrity, like, hall pass person?
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Where you're like, "If I ever, it's all in sight."
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Um, Chris Maloney, for sure.
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But if we're going to go like, "RH?"
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A type of type, you can have whatever type of--
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I know.
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I know.
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"RH?"
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I don't even know, honestly.
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Okay.
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We're going to get to the end of the episode.
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We're going to see what your onsite is.
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Please do.
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I'll start researching.
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Because I know this one when I just can't.
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Can't think of foods.
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Okay, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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One more show.
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One more show.
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Melissa's Macyl.
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It's so good.
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If you guys haven't been watching it, this show is just a delight.
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Every episode, it's also less season.
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And they're doing a lot of flash forwards to, like, the 80s and 90s.
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Um, the show's set in the 60s.
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I think I've talked about it in this podcast before.
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But please watch, "Marveless Mrs. Macyl."
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If you just want to smile and laugh.
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And watch some gorgeous 60s fashion.
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There you go.
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I will say you also sound like my dad there for that one.
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To see frickin' love's that show.
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It's so good.
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Every episode is just a delight.
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It's a pure delight.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right, Olivia, what have you been watching?
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So I just had my 30th birthday.
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So on Sunday.
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You're gonna be on Sunday.
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Thank you.
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I had on the oldest junky now.
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34 and just like a whole.
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And we love it.
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That was the theme of my 34th birthday.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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I didn't come up with that.
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Sean is much more creative than I am.
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So in my squalor on Sunday when I was picking myself up off the floor from a whole bottle
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of tequila.
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I watched Kung Pao enter the fist, which like, if you know me, you know that that movie is
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deeply embedded in my soul.
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Like I will just find myself going, "Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo."
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Like to myself.
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And so that's something about me.
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But it was amazing.
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I literally sat there with a giant chocolate cake, didn't cut it and just made it with a spoon.
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It was a beautiful, spiritual experience.
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Yes.
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A little girl.
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And then after that, I binge watched all of Queen Charlotte by Bridgerton.
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Or the Bridgerton story, whatever they're calling it.
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And I liked it.
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It was really, really good.
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They addressed like all the criticism of like, "Why are you not acknowledging race in a world where there's like black people in Regency Times?"
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And like a black queen, right?
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And so they addressed that as well as they never had a gay story in it.
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And so they had both of those in this.
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And I really, really liked that.
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Is it like a mini series?
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Yes.
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So it's six episodes.
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So if you saw Bridgerton, basically it's about the Queen in the story.
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So Queen Charlotte is her name.
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And it's the story of how her and the king fell in love.
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The main guy in it, super hot, looks like Dave Franco, but an English version.
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So yeah.
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There's a good one for you, Nicole.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, he's not a Franco, so we can like, you know, like that, we can buy that.
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Dave is a cool Franco.
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Yeah, but I feel like if your brother is James Franco, like there's some residual, like, rod coming to you, you know?
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Maybe that's a mean judgment, but I don't, I got my ears perked for him.
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But he was, he was really good.
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And like they genuinely had chemistry.
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If I feel like if you watched the first Bridgerton, which I went back and did that after I finished it, because I was like, I'm not more.
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And the original couple in Bridgerton has like no chemistry.
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And so this one was much better.
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Well, but it's that super hot guy Renee something.
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Yeah, I think we were all just like so secluded and like, horned up for a better word during COVID where we were like, this is great.
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This is amazing.
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This show is everything.
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And if you rewatch it, it's like, oh, that's probably not good.
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But Queen Charlotte was really good.
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And I really liked it.
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And the people had good chemistry.
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And then they upped the costumes.
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Like another big criticism of Bridgerton is like, they're not accurate to like the time that they're trying to be in.
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And a lot of the costumes this time around were actually good and fit for like queens and things like that.
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I never watched it.
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The only reason I would have is just because of the hotness and the sex scene.
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But maybe I'll just skip right over to this one.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, I like maybe I'll just watch a compilation of the sex scenes on YouTube.
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Also good.
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Also good.
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They're going to HBO route where they're like really showing the men's butts.
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It's like women's bodies out men's butts in.
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Losing a butt.
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Dude, when Lucifer went to Netflix and they showed his butt cheeks in that episode, I was like,
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"Lord, have mercy.
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Devil, have mercy."
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Give me those devil butts.
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We had a whole episode about that too.
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Oh my god.
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It's just a throwback at the same thing.
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I think we had a title of an episode that was just like,
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"You sexy devil or sleeping with the devil."
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I don't remember.
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Poor for me.
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You're a mom called your junkie.
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You got to.
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No, apparently.
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Apparently.
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Sorry about it.
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"Sexy British Devil Man."
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That was the name of the episode.
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Go back and listen to it.
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[Music]
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So we are huge fans of television, clearly.
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But would television exist if no woman was there to write it?
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Enter the writer's strike.
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That is going down right now.
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And that a lot of people think, "It's gonna last."
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I'm reading up to months at a time.
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I think the last time that it went on, it lasted a really long time.
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It was like months on end.
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And a lot of TV shows were impacted.
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So, interested to hear some pot takes on the writer's strike right now.
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Yeah, so November to February.
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Yeah, dude, that was a long time.
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They're saying that a lot of TV shows are being impacted already.
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SNL has already canceled its last three episodes.
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Which I was looking forward to.
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Because Pete Davidson wasn't going to be there.
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You're daddy.
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There you go.
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You love him.
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You needed him.
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You needed him.
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I needed him.
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Yeah, it's most significantly impacted up front.
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It seems like it's all the late night shows.
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But really kind of down the line.
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It's going to impact some of our favorites.
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We got yellow jackets.
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How's it dragon?
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Which, no, I need that.
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I need that back in my life.
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I know.
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I'm obsessed with yellow jackets.
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I do support the strike though.
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Like, the selfish worst of me is like, oh my god, no.
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Come on, I need my entertainment.
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Entertain me right now.
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This was the only thing keeping me on.
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Keep holding on by a thread over here.
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Yeah.
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Well, it's interesting, right?
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Like, you look at criticism of Hollywood right now and it's, they're always making the same
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thing over and over.
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They're just like really formulaic with their writing because as an executive, they're
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like, okay, well, we want to make something that we know is going to make money and is proven
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to work, which, you know, that isn't like a creative mindset at all.
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Then we have so many talented writers where, you know, I think eventually, like, it'll become
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so formulaic, especially if they add in this AI writing that people aren't going to be
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interested.
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Like, we're going to have so much streaming content more so than we do now that is just
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below even some of the stuff we see today, which I think quality of TV shows has really
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gone down.
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So, why did this strike start in the first place?
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So, it was kind of the instigating factor here.
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So the writers guild wanted to increase their pay for their members.
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I believe the pay was around $429 million a year, according to the WGA, and the counter-MPTP
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would run about $86 million per year.
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So, the number of writers working at the minimum pay has risen from a third to about a half.
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So, that's quite a bit of people.
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10% wise, it's 33% to 50%.
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So, I mean, that's a lot.
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And then writers for comedy writing shows and for streaming services, they have no pay protection
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and tend to get less paid in their counterparts in broadcast, which is pretty crazy to think
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about.
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I guess that's why a lot of these shows are being impacted, like the late night shows for
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sure.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I didn't think it that way, but exactly.
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A lot of the writers previously, to make their living, they had to be making these residuals
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from their shows, right?
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But with streaming, the residuals don't really work in that way.
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So, like, residuals as a whole, as an industry, has risen.
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But when it comes to individual shows, it's dropped significantly.
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So, because of that, people are making less and less money, they're paying writers less
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and less.
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And, you know, which just dark days in the creator world.
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Oh, gosh.
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And there are so many different streaming services that I'm sure it's hard to know going
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into it, which ones are going to be profitable or not.
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Like, what was that one that lasted?
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Like, really quick.
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Quibi.
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Oh, my God.
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Quibi.
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And then that is 8 shit immediately.
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We got only Netflix is really turning a profit right now.
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So, I think going into these streaming services as they're being launched, it's kind of hard
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to tell which ones are going to be profitable, which ones aren't, and how much they can afford
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to pay the writers.
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I can't even imagine all this Quibi show.
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It's different to the live on the floor, if some cutting room right now.
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Yeah.
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The Quibi feels like a way to have a production-valued TikTok.
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Or, I guess, it's more Snapchat.
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Like, you know, the Snapchat feature page.
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That's like what Quibi just feels like, which is.
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Yeah.
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I'll try to make TikToks and then I'll post them.
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I'll be like, that was really cute.
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And then I'll look at other people's TikToks.
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I'm like, why the fuck do I even try?
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Like, they have special effects in their TikToks.
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And I'm in here like a selfie of myself.
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But also too, during this whole thing, Drew Barrymore was supposed to host MTV, booby
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and TV wars.
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And three days before the award show was supposed to happen, she came out and said that she was
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dropping out as the host because she's in support of this strike.
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And so I did tune in because I wanted to try to see how they were going to go about if
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they got a new post because I didn't see them announce anything about getting a new
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host or something like that.
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It was extremely weird.
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I did not like the format at all.
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Nobody was there.
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It was not live.
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I mean, it was, but it wasn't.
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Like, there was no audience.
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I should say everyone was at home and they already, the winner already had the award.
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So I turned it on when Jennifer Coolidge won.
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And she was like in her apartment holding the award already.
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And I was like, okay, like maybe she was just sick or something.
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Couldn't make it filming something.
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I don't know, white lotus.
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Who knows.
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And it was just really weird.
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They kept showing throwback images and footage of previous award shows.
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Why would anyone want to watch that?
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I feel like no.
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MTV did that over COVID too.
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Yeah.
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And Gaga and Ariana performed.
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And I mean, I loved that whole show because it was basically like a lady, Gaga, chromatic,
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a commercial.
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She won like four before.
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It's yet all these different outfit.
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But everyone was wearing masks and everyone else was screaming.
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And the pandemic, Golden Globes did that too.
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It was just like everybody's at home.
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Yeah, she's the least kind of stuff we get when people don't get paid.
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Yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
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But we love Drew Bayer, Mariam.
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She's for the people.
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Yeah.
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She's an icon.
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Oh my god.
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She's so pure.
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She is so pure.
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She is so pure.
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She's the rain.
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Did you guys see her interview with Brook Shields?
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No.
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Oh my god, you need to watch it.
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Also, back to TV we're watching.
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If you haven't watched the Crybaby documentary or Pretty Baby Crybaby.
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I haven't seen you watch that.
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Pretty baby, don't get on my list.
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It is so good.
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It is so disturbing what we were doing to this little girl.
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And like-
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Yeah, she was like 11 or 12 and like-
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Do you think sex happens, right?
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Yeah.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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I'm like, no, when there were so messed up, like everyone's like, why are kids having sex
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so young?
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And it's like, you are putting this stuff on the TV in the 80s.
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What are you talking about?
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But no, it's really, really crazy.
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Because she also put out a book as well.
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I think personally as like an objective person, I think she gives her mother a lot of grace
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that I probably would not extend to her, but she is her mother.
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So-
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Those showbiz moms, man.
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Yeah, in both the book and in the documentary, she has a really hard time like condemning her
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mother's actions.
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But what was really interesting in the Drew Barrymore interview is she really kind of changes
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that stance and like really does speak out about it.
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Because I mean, Drew Barrymore and Brooke Shields have such a similar like life story where
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they were like young Lola who was getting taken to like these clubs at like seven years old.
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I read Drew Barrymore's book.
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I think it's called Little Girl Lost.
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And she was taken like, Studio 54, is that what it was called?
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She was doing cocaine at nine years old.
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That's insane.
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You know, my God, the way that she turned out to be is lovely and supportive as she is now.
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Have you ever seen any of the pictures of her in the club?
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It's freaking nuts.
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Yeah.
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You're like, you look like you like she looks like she's straight out of ET.
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Like, if I was fucked up in a club and I just saw the little child there, I'd be like,
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why is happening?
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Literally.
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Literally.
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I don't freak out.
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Literally.
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I don't freak out.
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I'm literally like, wait, like I need to go home.
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I'm seeing ET right now.
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And it's like, no, that's just actually Drew Barrymore over there.
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Is that my brain, Natch?
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Child.
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No, it's like when we were at the pool party for your birthday and somebody had two kids in
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the pool.
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Yeah.
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We're here.
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We're here.
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I thought it was.
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Don't bring your children to the casino pool with a DJ.
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Yeah.
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Like, there's a DJ here.
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Yeah.
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Pick a different dance track.
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I'll go get a million resorts.
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So we love the gaze.
35:32
Olivia is a welcome rash.
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We love you very much.
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Bill Hader has big dick energy.
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Don't give your nine year old cocaine and you support the writers right.
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Did I forget anything?
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Yeah.
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And watch Pretty Baby.
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Because it's a good story.
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And Jesus would be welcome on the Real Housewives of New Jersey because he's looked
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at Jesus.
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Jesus be flipping tables.
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Yes, if I Jesus.
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And who drank wine?
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And he drank wine.
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Do he shop to the reunion and he'd be like that water bottle?
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Wine.
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Please don't stop listening to my family.
36:12
So Olivia, what did you think about your first episode of Pop Culture Jackie Podcast?
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Well, I'm glad you guys didn't bite.
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You know, hopefully you let me come back next week.
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But I do that when I'm a person.
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That's true.
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You haven't recorded it in person with Nicole yet.
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Tell me what the good time.
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I'm going to be the pervy host.
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That's going to be the problem.
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That role has already been taken.
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No.
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No.
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But yeah, I'm excited.
36:44
I'll have to next time school you on the free band movement so you guys can join in giving
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him his freedom just like we did for Britney.
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Absolutely.
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Let's do it.
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I'm going to hear all about that.
36:57
In the meantime, where can the people find you?
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This is the part where we give our social media links.
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So I'll let you go first, Liv.
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You can find me @livimariez on Instagram, L-I-V-I, Marie with a “Z" at the end.
37:14
And Nicole.
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You can find me on Instagram and TikTok at Nicole_Eldridge and on Twitter @naeldridge14.
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You can find me, Shauna Trinidad on Instagram and TikTok at Shauna Trinidad, S-H-A-U-N-A-T-R-I-N-I-D-A-D.
37:32
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So as always, thank you for listening and make sure you come back next time for another
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Popculture Junkie is part of the Pop Culture Entertainment Network.
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So entertain me, entertain me right now.
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