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- 1:00:00Imagine a tropical paradise choosing reef
- 1:00:03protection over economic promises.
- 1:00:05We don't hear that much, but it happened
- 1:00:07in Cayman Islands just
- 1:00:08last, or two months ago
- 1:00:10in April.
- 1:00:11We're going to talk about it on today's
- 1:00:12episode of the How to
- 1:00:13Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 1:00:15Let's start the show.
- 1:00:18Hey everybody, welcome back to another
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- 1:00:20to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 1:00:21I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.
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- 1:01:24Let's get into action that was taken by
- 1:01:26the island of Cayman
- 1:01:28islands, Grand Cayman.
- 1:01:29And it was just a wonderful thing.
- 1:01:31It's where you go like,
- 1:01:32look, there's a referendum held.
- 1:01:33Do you want a big pier on your island?
- 1:01:36Okay.
- 1:01:36Yes or no.
- 1:01:3764% said no.
- 1:01:38No pier.
- 1:01:39That's awesome.
- 1:01:40That's not as easy as it sounds, but it's
- 1:01:43so great when
- 1:01:44democracy works in favor of,
- 1:01:47you know, citizens
- 1:01:47and for the environment.
- 1:01:48That doesn't happen a lot.
- 1:01:50So here's the thing of what's going on.
- 1:01:52So cruise ships are a big part of island
- 1:01:54communities, whether the
- 1:01:55citizens want it or not.
- 1:01:57Cruise ships go all over the Caribbean
- 1:01:59and like Mexico, all over the Caribbean,
- 1:02:02like really anywhere you want.
- 1:02:03And Grand Cayman is part of that.
- 1:02:05I remember visiting there a number of
- 1:02:06years ago and along seven mile beach,
- 1:02:08which is a gorgeous beach.
- 1:02:09There's a big pier where cruise ships
- 1:02:11come in and people can come
- 1:02:12for the day and, you know,
- 1:02:13shop and it's supposed to bring tourism
- 1:02:15on a daily basis or on a
- 1:02:17semi daily basis to the island.
- 1:02:18But it doesn't always necessarily work
- 1:02:20out in favor for the citizens.
- 1:02:22There's a lot of environmental damages
- 1:02:23when building a pier,
- 1:02:25whether they want it or not.
- 1:02:25It's a very intrusive process.
- 1:02:27You have to destroy some underwater part
- 1:02:30of the ocean for the pier to go in.
- 1:02:32And this pier, they wanted to bring a
- 1:02:34larger cruise ships directly to
- 1:02:36Georgetown, the capital.
- 1:02:37But there was
- 1:02:38concerns of reef destruction.
- 1:02:39There's concerns of overtourism and
- 1:02:41there's a concerns of just the
- 1:02:42transparency of the process.
- 1:02:44Because let's be honest, these
- 1:02:45processes are for developers.
- 1:02:47These processes are in favor of tourism,
- 1:02:51but really for these
- 1:02:52large ships, cruise ships.
- 1:02:54And so they're there for the companies,
- 1:02:56not necessarily the citizens.
- 1:02:57So a referendum was
- 1:02:59held on April 30th, 2025.
- 1:03:00The result 64.5% voted against the pier,
- 1:03:04which was really interesting.
- 1:03:05This is a non-binding referendum, but had
- 1:03:07a strong public impact and was held
- 1:03:10alongside votes on cannabis
- 1:03:12decriminalization and national lottery.
- 1:03:14So there's a lot of votes going on.
- 1:03:16I just think it's great that the island
- 1:03:17put that up for referendum to say, hey,
- 1:03:19does this do the
- 1:03:19citizens actually want this?
- 1:03:21A lot of times the citizens don't really
- 1:03:22feel like they don't really have a say.
- 1:03:24Sometimes they don't have a say.
- 1:03:25And the government just makes the
- 1:03:26decisions for them based on, you know,
- 1:03:28people voting in the
- 1:03:29government in this time.
- 1:03:30They held the referendum.
- 1:03:31I guess it's a small population that they
- 1:03:33can hold the referendum.
- 1:03:34Although I feel like referendum pretty
- 1:03:35humbles the government and being like, do
- 1:03:37we know what people want?
- 1:03:39So we'll hold a referendum.
- 1:03:40And if whatever that referendum will say,
- 1:03:42you know, it is what it is.
- 1:03:44I mean, let's look at Brexit in the UK.
- 1:03:46Not many people thought
- 1:03:46that Brexit would happen.
- 1:03:48The people voted on a referendum.
- 1:03:50Now Brexit happened.
- 1:03:51And we have what we have now in terms of
- 1:03:53the UK out of the European Union.
- 1:03:55There have been other votes that have
- 1:03:56happened across the world in different
- 1:03:57democracies for referendums.
- 1:03:59I think it's a great way to reset and
- 1:04:01give, you know, the power back to the
- 1:04:02people and to see what
- 1:04:04people really actually want.
- 1:04:05Now, there are a lot of campaigns that
- 1:04:08were run by CPR, Cayman National Trust
- 1:04:10and other grassroots groups led the
- 1:04:12opposition to this pier.
- 1:04:13And the key concerns, again, were damage
- 1:04:15to coral reefs and marine ecosystems, the
- 1:04:17threats to small businesses and cultural
- 1:04:19heritage and the lack of
- 1:04:21clear economic benefits.
- 1:04:22So here's the thing when we
- 1:04:23talk about small businesses.
- 1:04:25Small businesses are, you know, the
- 1:04:27backbone of society, right?
- 1:04:29We see small businesses.
- 1:04:30We go into those businesses.
- 1:04:32We connect with the community.
- 1:04:33The money stays within the community
- 1:04:35because the people who own those small
- 1:04:36businesses live within the community.
- 1:04:38So as you exchange money for products,
- 1:04:40that money, the profit that they pay for
- 1:04:43will go towards the house that that small
- 1:04:45business owner lives in the
- 1:04:46groceries that they pay for.
- 1:04:48They put money back into the community,
- 1:04:49whether it be through charitable
- 1:04:50donations or even just regular, you know,
- 1:04:53day to day spending.
- 1:04:54And so they are the backbone.
- 1:04:56And we've seen in a number of different
- 1:04:58towns and cities across the world that
- 1:05:00these small businesses are being put out
- 1:05:02of business due to large corporate
- 1:05:05businesses that come in and just get
- 1:05:07smaller prices because
- 1:05:08they have a lot of money.
- 1:05:08So I think that's going to be one of the things that you're going to have to do is
- 1:05:08have a better purchasing power.
- 1:05:09And they just can
- 1:05:10serve the community more.
- 1:05:11You get everything you
- 1:05:12want in those big stores.
- 1:05:14You don't have to go to a store from
- 1:05:15store to store and people who
- 1:05:17are just in a rush are in that.
- 1:05:20They're just in a rush and it's very
- 1:05:21difficult to keep a small business these
- 1:05:24days going, you know,
- 1:05:25active in the community.
- 1:05:26So that's a tough thing.
- 1:05:28When you have cruise ships, now, how do
- 1:05:30the cruise ships relate?
- 1:05:31When you have cruise ships that come in
- 1:05:32and people get off the boat, you are
- 1:05:35going into a specific area, right?
- 1:05:38you are going into a specific area,
- 1:05:39if you're not in that
- 1:05:40area, you can only go so far.
- 1:05:42You know, a lot of times taxis and Ubers
- 1:05:44or whatever will take you to
- 1:05:46different parts of the island
- 1:05:48if it's a small enough island for the day
- 1:05:49and then bring you back in time
- 1:05:51to get back on your cruise ship.
- 1:05:52But a lot of the times
- 1:05:53you're in specific areas.
- 1:05:55Those areas sometimes
- 1:05:56where the port goes in
- 1:05:57are maybe owned by bigger businesses,
- 1:06:00maybe owned by part of
- 1:06:01the cruise lines, who knows?
- 1:06:03You never know where these
- 1:06:04corporations are putting these,
- 1:06:05you know, what we think
- 1:06:06look like small businesses,
- 1:06:07but are businesses that get a benefit
- 1:06:09from where these cruise ships go.
- 1:06:11So the smaller businesses pay the price
- 1:06:13or they have to pay larger rent,
- 1:06:15or they have to pay like for their stores
- 1:06:17to be there or things like that.
- 1:06:19So it's a real, you
- 1:06:19know, non benefit to this.
- 1:06:21It's a negative impact
- 1:06:22to these small businesses.
- 1:06:24So having these cruise ships, these
- 1:06:25bigger cruise ships come in is not
- 1:06:26necessarily good for the businesses,
- 1:06:28but also not good for the ocean.
- 1:06:30Not only do you have the impact of the
- 1:06:31reef destruction in
- 1:06:32construction of the pier,
- 1:06:33but you also have people coming to the
- 1:06:35island, more people coming to the island.
- 1:06:37We are in a big like growth economy.
- 1:06:39Everybody's talking about how do I grow?
- 1:06:41How do I do this? How do I grow?
- 1:06:42I want to grow
- 1:06:42bigger. I want to scale up.
- 1:06:44Everything's big. Everything's going up.
- 1:06:46At some point we have to look at these
- 1:06:47islands and they are small islands.
- 1:06:49They don't need massive growth.
- 1:06:51Sure, they need money.
- 1:06:52They want to grow. They
- 1:06:53want their economy to do well.
- 1:06:55But at some point there's, you know, when
- 1:06:57you get that benefit and
- 1:06:58you peak in terms of money,
- 1:07:00only certain people benefit from that
- 1:07:01money, as we just talked about.
- 1:07:03But also the reef gets destroyed.
- 1:07:05The environment gets changed.
- 1:07:08The citizens who live there have to
- 1:07:10change as well and have to adapt as well.
- 1:07:11And it's not always a benefit.
- 1:07:13And oftentimes it's a negative benefit to
- 1:07:15those island communities.
- 1:07:16Now I should preface this.
- 1:07:17I'm not somebody who
- 1:07:18lives on a small island.
- 1:07:19So I don't know like just the day to day
- 1:07:22impacts that small island communities
- 1:07:23have on large tourism sort of pushes,
- 1:07:27like a bigger cruise line coming in.
- 1:07:28But I can't imagine that would be
- 1:07:30something that would
- 1:07:31be easily adaptable to,
- 1:07:32especially when you're already trying to
- 1:07:33adapt to small island living,
- 1:07:35which you have increased prices.
- 1:07:36It's very expensive to live in the
- 1:07:38Caribbean, especially on Grand Cayman.
- 1:07:40It's very expensive just to
- 1:07:41shop for day to day activities.
- 1:07:43When we went there, just, you know, a
- 1:07:44loaf of bread, milk and a
- 1:07:46couple of other items cost $100 US.
- 1:07:48That's a lot of money just
- 1:07:49for a small amount of items.
- 1:07:50And that was before COVID.
- 1:07:52That was before massive inflation.
- 1:07:53I can just imagine what it is now.
- 1:07:55It's very difficult for citizens to live
- 1:07:57on that island that
- 1:07:58are born on that island,
- 1:08:00that not are coming in and buying big
- 1:08:02houses and are rich.
- 1:08:03These are people who have regular jobs,
- 1:08:05you know, the middle class or even lower
- 1:08:07middle class that are
- 1:08:09having trouble surviving.
- 1:08:10I can't even imagine what people who are
- 1:08:12below that status have, you know, are
- 1:08:14having trouble with.
- 1:08:15So it can be very difficult in that.
- 1:08:17So the fact that they added a vote and
- 1:08:20said, hey, do you want this massive peer?
- 1:08:22People said no, people weren't happy, but
- 1:08:23a lot of people spoke out, which was
- 1:08:25great voices like Sylvia Earl,
- 1:08:26Jean-Michelus Cousteau.
- 1:08:27They also spoke out against this peer.
- 1:08:29So the people, the campaigners got people
- 1:08:32from outside of Grand Cayman to speak out
- 1:08:34on their behalf to make
- 1:08:35sure that hey, you know what?
- 1:08:36It's not just people on the island are
- 1:08:38concerned, but it's also people outside
- 1:08:39and that have a big impact.
- 1:08:41Dr. Sylvia Earl and Jean-Michelus
- 1:08:43Cousteau and others have a huge impact in
- 1:08:45terms of what happens.
- 1:08:46They have press releases.
- 1:08:47They have public relations teams that are
- 1:08:48just amazing and they get
- 1:08:49their message gets far reaching.
- 1:08:51If that gets out and it's negative, that
- 1:08:52has an impact on how people look.
- 1:08:54So that's one of the things.
- 1:08:55So, you know, we talk a lot about that,
- 1:08:57how international voices can help in
- 1:09:00areas and saying, hey, I'm not going to
- 1:09:01go there if we have these big impacts.
- 1:09:03Right. So that's always good.
- 1:09:05Now, there were arguments against, you
- 1:09:06know, the cruise industry was arguing
- 1:09:07against, but they said they're going to
- 1:09:09have to adapt to it.
- 1:09:10They said it would modernize Cayman
- 1:09:12tourism and keep it competitive.
- 1:09:13But even though they have frustration
- 1:09:15with the vote, the way it turned out,
- 1:09:17they are willing to
- 1:09:18adapt and collaborate.
- 1:09:19We'll see how that happens.
- 1:09:20That's something that says, I'm glad
- 1:09:21they're saying that.
- 1:09:22They're not saying, hey, the vote was
- 1:09:23corrupt or, you know, it was fraudulent
- 1:09:25or anything like that.
- 1:09:27We're back into like,
- 1:09:28hey, democracy rules.
- 1:09:29And this is what people want.
- 1:09:31Now, cruise company may adapt to rules or
- 1:09:33explore other islands.
- 1:09:34So they might go to other islands.
- 1:09:35In this case, that's what
- 1:09:36the islanders have said.
- 1:09:38The Cayman islanders
- 1:09:38have said, you know what?
- 1:09:39We don't want you here.
- 1:09:40It's not for us.
- 1:09:41The other thing is like, will development
- 1:09:43resurface in another form?
- 1:09:45So are they going to try and get, you
- 1:09:46know, a cruise line in some other ways,
- 1:09:48more cruise liners in other
- 1:09:50ways, build a smaller pier?
- 1:09:51Who knows what's going to happen?
- 1:09:53That's going to be a really
- 1:09:54difficult thing to look at.
- 1:09:55But this is really an example.
- 1:09:57The story is really an example of local
- 1:09:58people making a global change.
- 1:10:01And that's really important.
- 1:10:02It sets a precedent for the Caribbean and
- 1:10:04beyond that says, if you give the people
- 1:10:05their power to vote on what they want and
- 1:10:08what they don't want, they will use it
- 1:10:10and they will activate that voice.
- 1:10:12And they will say,
- 1:10:13Hey, this is what we want.
- 1:10:14And that will turn into action.
- 1:10:15So the call to action really is to
- 1:10:16support more local efforts
- 1:10:18like these wherever you live.
- 1:10:20And it's very important that you act
- 1:10:21locally and then protecting oceans really
- 1:10:23starts with protecting places we love.
- 1:10:25So just like the people of Cayman did, we
- 1:10:28need to love our oceans.
- 1:10:30We need to love our environment, whether
- 1:10:31you live in Ontario, like I do, like
- 1:10:34you're beside the great lakes or you live
- 1:10:36along the coastline.
- 1:10:37You need to get out there, enjoy nature,
- 1:10:40understand nature, not just go for a hike
- 1:10:42for the sake of hiking,
- 1:10:42but really look around.
- 1:10:44Take like the iNaturalist app.
- 1:10:45Look at the species that are around.
- 1:10:47Are they native?
- 1:10:48Are they invasive?
- 1:10:49Just start to look and just
- 1:10:49love what you see and enjoy it.
- 1:10:52Take your time to just relax.
- 1:10:54And I think that's really important.
- 1:10:55So this is just a great story of local
- 1:10:57action actually doing some great work and
- 1:11:00preventing a large cruise liners or more
- 1:11:02larger cruise liners coming in and a
- 1:11:04bigger pier being destructive, bigger
- 1:11:06pier not being built.
- 1:11:08So that's always great.
- 1:11:09And yeah, that's just, I want to share
- 1:11:10that just show that there is hope and
- 1:11:12there are ways that people are protecting
- 1:11:13the ocean, even in small islands and
- 1:11:15having international
- 1:11:16voices as well as local voices.
- 1:11:18So I want to thank the people of Grand
- 1:11:19Cayman for doing what they're doing and
- 1:11:21enjoying their ability to vote and taking
- 1:11:23that ability to vote to heart.
- 1:11:25And I want to thank you for listening to
- 1:11:27this episode of the How to
- 1:11:28Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 1:11:29Don't forget, if you want to take action,
- 1:11:30you can go to speakupforblue.com forward
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- 1:11:34Thank you so much for listening to this
- 1:11:35episode of the How to
- 1:11:36Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 1:11:37I'm your host, Andrew Lewin, from the
- 1:11:38true North strong and free.
- 1:11:39Have a great day.
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