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Special Episode: Leadership in Flight · Divas That Care Network

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  SPEAKER_01: It's Divas that Care Radio.
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  SPEAKER_01: Stories, strategies, and ideas to inspire positive change.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right now, though, stay tuned for another jolt of inspiration.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hi, Asina.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hi, Tina.
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  SPEAKER_00: So great to see you finally in person.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Did I say your name right, Asina?
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  SPEAKER_02: Perfectly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Excellent, excellent.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why don't you tell us about yourself?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I am based in South Africa.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a mind-body spirit breakthrough coach, and I help people around the world, mainly girls and women, but people of all genders, um, basically to find their voices, to embrace their voices, and to just step into being fully who they are in a leadership capacity.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I do.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm also a yoga instructor and author, um, international speaker and poet.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh yes, it's it's awesome to be able to connect around the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love networking.
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  SPEAKER_02: Awesome, that's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, so you submitted um a story in Candace's book.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you work you work with animals then?
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  SPEAKER_00: Very interesting question that you know, I never used to um until I came into contact with birds and working with a friend of mine who does bird ringing, she's a licensed bird ringer, but I never so much had a pet growing up, except my silkworms when I was nine or ten.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, what is your story about then?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, here's the interesting part.
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  SPEAKER_00: Even though I didn't grow up as pets with pets, because my parents always said that you know it's a responsibility.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't just get a pet and suddenly decide you can't take care of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um so I didn't grow up with pets.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had friends who had pets.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was I was very open to communicate with animals.
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  SPEAKER_00: So about a, I think it was about two years ago, um, a medium had also said to me, you know, you have the ability, you have this gift of communicating with animals.
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  SPEAKER_00: I never thought about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I have communicated with animals, just never realized the full extent of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um in the interim, I'd been uh in contact with my friend who does bird ringing and bird watching, and I um once volunteered to help her uh do the bird ringing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I wouldn't do very much of it, I'd watch her, and she was such an educator that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'll just explain to you that the bird ringing is so that you can put a ring, a unique ring on the bird, so that if it migrates somewhere even to another country, then you can keep track just with that unique number on the ring, and you're able to trace that bird to get to know more about its habits, how long it lives, and all of these things so that we can look after birds more so that birds don't become endangered species, go extinct, and we can help just the future of birds.
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  SPEAKER_00: I then uh started getting more interested in it and realizing that you know we communicate with all of nature, we're in communion with them, with every single element of nature all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And since then I've learned to ring birds.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not afraid of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: I started being afraid just when they used to flap their wings, which is quite funny now that I think about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Of course, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, and it's been said we all come from nature, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So why wouldn't we get along with everything in nature?
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  SPEAKER_02: That's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So why the story that you um have sent into um Candace's book, what I don't I don't really want you to tell me about the story because I want to read the book, uh, but can you tell us why it's like why it's so important to you and you felt you needed to share it?
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  SPEAKER_00: I just feel that just my story alone contributes, um, you know, it it helps people to realize their contribution to leadership and what animals can teach them about leadership, because that's what it taught me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And also what is leadership?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, like you were saying, it's so natural that we we are in communion with nature, we're um communicating with all elements of nature, we come from nature, and a lot of times we lose this.
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  SPEAKER_00: And of course, I teach the unbecoming system where um I help people to unbecome who they are not.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that is what leadership is: just taking off all those layers and stepping into who you are, and you're never going to know who you are if you don't take off those layers.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I started doing the bird ringing, now that's what it taught me: that wow, you're getting back to who you really are, you're getting back to the to the little girl who wasn't afraid of a chameleon and stepping into yourself more fully.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I realized that that's something that we can all do in different ways, and animals teach us to do that in a variety of ways.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've never I've never thought of that, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: But it's true when you go out in in nature and you, you know, start chasing frogs, for example, when we go camping, my kids used to always chase the frogs, and I was like, ooh, gross.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it's true, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like if I got involved with my kids that way, it would be I would feel like a child again.
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  SPEAKER_02: I never maybe that's why I didn't like it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm you know, I feel like I'm too old to be a child, but maybe I need to do that more.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_02: We all have that little inner child in us.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, so you obviously love being around animals.
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  SPEAKER_02: Is it like now I do now?
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  SPEAKER_02: You do, so it's not just pets though, like it obviously it's like in in the wild, in nature.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, it I I do like like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I feel very connected to elephants.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, for example, I have an elephant in my background here.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a painting my mom did, and she said, What do you want?
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  SPEAKER_00: And she knows I just feel so connected to elephants.
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  SPEAKER_00: But interestingly, I've begun to teach to treat creatures as um, and it sounds silly because I should have been doing this in the first place.
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  SPEAKER_00: You treat every creature with dignity when there's a wasp or bee stuck in my space, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll say, Well, I'm sure you want to get out of the window.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's not so much the words, it's just the energy that you communicate with, and you're able to let it out the window.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think that uh animals sense your fear or sense your cooperation and your love energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: They really do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, in a lot of respects, they like babies in that regard.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I don't have children, but a lot of parents tell me that, well, um, children are such a good judge of character, babies are such a good judge of character.
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  SPEAKER_00: So animals also sense how we feel and how we feel towards them.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I believe that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you're telling me, and and obviously it's proving that when I'm terrified of spiders, when they're when I see a spider like, you know, in front of my window, I turn into like a cement.
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  SPEAKER_02: I can't move.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh my God, get someone, get rid of it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I know with my dog, you know, we have a pet dog, and she's, I mean, she knows when I'm upset, when I'm happy, when I'm stressed, she knows and she acts accordingly, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: With compassion and dignity.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I agree with you there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we need to treat all animals with the same kind of treatment as we give other humans for sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: That yeah, that's great.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hasina, how can our listeners get a hold of you?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, they're welcome to email me hello at hastinapital.com, or they're able to go to my website, hastenapital.com, and they can see everything I do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and you know, get in touch with me in whatever capacity they want to.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love connecting with people.
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  SPEAKER_00: I always feel there's divine purpose in it, no matter what sort of collaboration or connection we have.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's another lesson animals teach us.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, we can collaborate and connect in the most unusual ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: So anyone who wants to connect, I'm open to that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's great.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so you're not on social media.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, very much on social media.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm on LinkedIn, um, Hasina Patel TruthWalker, and I am also on Facebook.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I I think that the links of my social, my, my, social media links will be um there underneath the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: But perfect.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um yes, people can can get hold of me on Facebook too.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I do like connecting with new people.
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  SPEAKER_02: Excellent.
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  SPEAKER_02: Excellent.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Animal Prince on My Soul is the name of Candace Gish's book, and it should be out soon.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't have an exact date, but I know it's coming soon.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we'll be watching for it to come out, and I'm definitely going to read your story.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for joining me today, Hasina.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for having me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I really feel honored to be in Candace's book, um, animal animal Prince for the Soul.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I feel so honored to be interviewed by you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So thank you so much, Tina.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you're very welcome.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was wonderful talking with you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for listening.
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