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Patriots Unfiltered 11/12: Jets Preview, Gronk Retires a Patriot, Week 11 League Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: The World's of Vigeon podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. My
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  Speaker 2: public apology for not picking the Patriots this week. I
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  Speaker 2: sincerely regret my actions. What do you think about that
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  Speaker 2: strength of victory?
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  Speaker 1: I don't really care.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really care about any of this.
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  Speaker 1: You don't feel like that now is a waste of everybody.
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  Speaker 2: But people make it a point. Oh, they've got an
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  Speaker 2: easy schedule.
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  Speaker 1: They do, you know so because they do not compared
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  Speaker 1: to Buffalo, because they have an easy schedule too. They're
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  Speaker 1: in the same division. That doesn't matter. It's who you played.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's how you get your strength of victory. Do
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  Speaker 2: you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, let's move on kind of.
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  Speaker 2: But just because he understands it is I don't need
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  Speaker 2: very elitists.
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  Speaker 4: And for the record, Travis, that took me five minutes
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  Speaker 4: to put together.
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  Speaker 5: I don't need men manage vandage my time.
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  Speaker 3: These people now, they're just acting like they were on
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  Speaker 3: the band. Yeah, and I'm not for that.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a chance to say the time that they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to hear that. So has Brady officially retired?
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  Speaker 1: I think that was that big thing we did last year.
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  Speaker 1: This is Patriot.
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  Speaker 2: It's Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website for deals by
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  Speaker 2: It's Wednesday here Atchealette Stadium. It's Paul, it's Deuce. We'll
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  Speaker 2: have a full crew eventually, but it's a it's a
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  Speaker 2: crazy day here for us. It's like a Wednesday Thursday
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  Speaker 2: because it's our turn the page day. But we'll also
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  Speaker 2: be uh doing our picks today because we have the
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  Speaker 2: game tomorrow. We'll also be going to Gronk, who is
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  Speaker 2: signing a contract to retire as a Patriot officially. We'll
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  Speaker 2: do that at twelve fifteen today, So we've got that
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  Speaker 2: going on.
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  Speaker 1: So you might have thought that we already had Gronk here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: west Over replica from the summer. No, just kidding. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's a Gronk jersey from my from my fans.
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  Speaker 2: You get your uppers on. Oh those I'm just your
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  Speaker 2: big shoulder. Yeah okay.
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  Speaker 6: It's a great shirt and I didn't get a chance
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  Speaker 6: to wear it enough anymore. So I apologize to make
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  Speaker 6: an O'Brien if she's watching, Sorry Megan Connolly's slash Big
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  Speaker 6: Moran May. But I know, could chance to bust out
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  Speaker 6: the old jersey, you know, Hey, I hope, I hope
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  Speaker 6: makes some people mad. I know people get that when
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  Speaker 6: when grown men wear jerseys ridiculous mad.
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  Speaker 2: I'm mad, but yeah, I don't know if mad would
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  Speaker 2: be there, just disgusted, disgusted. Yeah. Anyway, so we've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot to talk about. We'll start with and just
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  Speaker 2: remember twelve fifteen. We're going to Gronk, assuming he's on time,
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  Speaker 2: which with him. But let's turn the page to the
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  Speaker 2: New York Jets.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: They're in trouble. I mean, they don't have anyone. It's
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  Speaker 2: all it's Breese Hall or bus.
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  Speaker 1: Did I did I weigh you down?
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  Speaker 7: You wore me down?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't mean to, Like, you know how I try
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  Speaker 2: to like have every opponent in the Bill Belichick style
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  Speaker 2: their due. You don't want to, like, you know, overlook anyone.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, even on defense, which was the only
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  Speaker 2: thing kind of holding them together up to this point,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't even have that other cornerback. They shipped off
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  Speaker 2: a lot of good players.
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  Speaker 1: But look, it's going to be year sixteen of a
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  Speaker 1: thirty two year rebuild, I guess. I mean, and it's
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  Speaker 1: fifteen years since they made the playoffs. There was a
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold attempt, there was a Zach Wilson attempt. There's
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  Speaker 1: going to be another attempt. You know, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: who it's going to be. They're going to more unlikely
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  Speaker 1: pick somebody in the top five of the upcoming draft.
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  Speaker 1: They did make some moves that I think you're going
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  Speaker 1: to give him a stockpile. But you know, if you're
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  Speaker 1: a Jets fan, you got to think to yourself, if
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  Speaker 1: I nail it, even with the quarterback, I'm probably still
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  Speaker 1: at least two years away from being a playoff team.
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  Speaker 1: There's not much left here. So I agree with Fred.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's tough. It's a tough pill to swallow for
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  Speaker 1: the Jets fans right now.
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  Speaker 6: How discipline do you think they can be with that
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  Speaker 6: amount of high draft capital You talk all the time
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  Speaker 6: at the top, you kind of get stuck with who
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  Speaker 6: the quarterbacks are in that draft. And let's say they
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  Speaker 6: come to whatever it is, let's say the third overall
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  Speaker 6: pick and it's the top ranked quarterback in the class,
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  Speaker 6: but they don't really love them, and they know they
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  Speaker 6: have more picks later. They know they have more first
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  Speaker 6: rounders next year. Do you have to take the consensus
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  Speaker 6: number one quarterback or you know, can you be a
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  Speaker 6: little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny because I stopped Barth because catch twenty two
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  Speaker 2: just got over and I stopped Barth before he left.
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  Speaker 1: I said, gill them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I said, give me the top three prospects of
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  Speaker 2: this draft, and they were all defense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, this is a defense draft.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this sounds like that's I've heard a couple things.
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  Speaker 1: So I think the Jets because they've been burned doing
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  Speaker 1: the opposite. If they've done the Zach Wilson, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so I unless they really really like the guy, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it'll take. It's been a disappointing quarterback class.
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  Speaker 1: It's not without talent, but they haven't really performed. I
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  Speaker 1: think you could talk yourself into a couple of guys,
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  Speaker 1: but if by were the Jets, I wouldn't be trying
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  Speaker 1: to talk myself into anybody. If there's someone that they love,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if Dante Moore or you know, Mendoza from
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  Speaker 1: Indiana or whoever Leonora's sellers, whoever it is, if you
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  Speaker 1: love them, by all means, take them. But I think
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  Speaker 1: to your point, and again I keep using that one
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  Speaker 1: draft that they had the three first round picks and
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  Speaker 1: they hit on all three of them.
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  Speaker 2: And it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Matter because you know, because when you when you took
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback, you didn't hit on the quarterback. You know,
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  Speaker 1: in retrospect, you know, if you're a Jet span you
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  Speaker 1: wish you held on to Sam Darnold and you put
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  Speaker 1: some some support system around him with coaching.
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  Speaker 2: And I used to call the Jets the New Jersey cockroaches,
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  Speaker 2: and that was a compliment actually because they went away.
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  Speaker 2: They never kill them. They kept coming back. But now
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  Speaker 2: they've lost that Moniker. They are no longer than New
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  Speaker 2: Jersey cockroaches. They've gone away.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so Mike, even like, I'm just looking at
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  Speaker 1: their death shot right now, right and there's one, two, three, four, five, six,
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  Speaker 1: six rookies from their draft class starting. Yeah, so like
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not telling you they're like you know, I
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  Speaker 1: said on defense, Well, no, there's three on offense, three
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  Speaker 1: on defense, right, they're not all I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: Arman Membu has been pretty good for them at right tackle.
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  Speaker 1: Mason Taylor has been, you know, a pretty good tight
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  Speaker 1: end for them. You know, Arian Smith hasn't really done much.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be one of their frontline wide receivers.
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  Speaker 1: He's starting because Garrett Wilson's hurt. Let's call it like
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  Speaker 1: it is, but just it just illustrates like, even when
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  Speaker 1: you think you have some good players, it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: if you don't do it all well.
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  Speaker 2: And their coaching hasn't been good.
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  Speaker 1: I was listening to an interview this morning on one
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  Speaker 1: of my shows for he coming in and there was
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  Speaker 1: a question asked like if if Mike Rabel was the
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  Speaker 1: Jets coach, do you think it would have made a difference,
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  Speaker 1: And the guy like stopped the question in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, Oh, absolutely, they'd have two or three more wins.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they've they've really they've really shown the inexperience
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  Speaker 1: of Aaron Glenn has really shown it at key times
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  Speaker 1: in games where he's mismanaged the clock or a situation,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sort of a mindset this guy. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was Zach Rosenblatt from the Athletic that was the
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  Speaker 1: gentleman who was on He said they would have at
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  Speaker 1: least two more wins if they had better coaching.
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  Speaker 2: Yea, as fireman ed left the building, I'm sure he has.
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  Speaker 1: He's probably the fifth time right now.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, if if I was a Jets fan right now,
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  Speaker 6: I would be looking at all these quarterbacks over the
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  Speaker 6: next two drafts and being like, who do I absolutely love?
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  Speaker 6: You know, and I mean even the Patriots got they
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  Speaker 6: got stuck with Drake May but like that's how it
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  Speaker 6: worked out for the Patriots?
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  Speaker 2: Or who do I package try to poach from another team?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you don't like the draft is the best
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  Speaker 2: way to do it? Yeah, if there's a good point,
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  Speaker 2: But that's what I would do, not the way.
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  Speaker 1: But what if even if like that's what i'd look.
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  Speaker 6: You have the ability now to say, if you really
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  Speaker 6: love a quarterback who's probably gonna go first overall, you
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  Speaker 6: have the package now to make you move forget, but
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  Speaker 6: you have to really believe it, right right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so that's the that's the draft.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't even think they'll need to do that
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  Speaker 1: in the draft because they're gonna pick in.
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  Speaker 2: The top whatever. Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they have as much of a chance of
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  Speaker 1: picking number one overall as anybody else. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: help them out with that tomorrow. Yeah, I mean there's
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  Speaker 1: a chance they're going to go three and fourteen or something,
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  Speaker 1: you know, close to that, although in true Jets fashion,
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  Speaker 1: they'll probably end up with five wins, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I go the Fred route.
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  Speaker 1: I look at I look around and try to find
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  Speaker 1: a guy. And I'm not saying this particular guy, but
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  Speaker 1: Mac Jones has played reasonably well for the Niners, right,
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  Speaker 1: that's a I would target a guy like that. Someone's backup. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't be.
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  Speaker 2: Mac Jones back in the AFC East.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it would be Mac Jones.
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  Speaker 1: I think you've sort of seen him in the elements,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't I don't. I don't think that would be a
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  Speaker 1: smart move for the Jets, But you understand that.
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  Speaker 2: Type of player.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with your line of thinking.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the forty nine ers want to keep Jones
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  Speaker 2: and you go after brock Purty.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, say I would be. I would
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  Speaker 1: have the same sort of reluctance in the weather with
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  Speaker 1: both of those guys. I think they're they don't have
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  Speaker 1: the strongest arms, and I would worry about it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's the kind of move I would be looking to make.
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  Speaker 1: Just use my draft stop gap, kind of use my
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  Speaker 1: draft picks, and you know, it could be a stop gap,
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  Speaker 1: but it doesn't have to be. I mean, those guys
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  Speaker 1: are young ish, you know, Like, I don't think Seattle
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  Speaker 1: probably looks right now at Sam Donald is a stop gap.
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  Speaker 1: No again, I don't think Indianapolis is looking at Daniel
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  Speaker 1: Jones as a stop gap.
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  Speaker 6: You feel like Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald have maybe
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  Speaker 6: changed the conversation a little bit about some of those
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  Speaker 6: kind of moves which some of these guys get cast
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  Speaker 6: off a couple of times and most people write them
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  Speaker 6: off or dead. But you've seen now a couple of
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  Speaker 6: different guys. I mean, it still seems rare to me
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  Speaker 6: that generally a guy fails, I don't think he's able
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  Speaker 6: to play. But they're really good stories for the league.
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  Speaker 6: And I don't really feel yet like it's become a
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  Speaker 6: thing of now, like you know, not Gardner Minshew, but
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  Speaker 6: maybe five years ago Gardner Minshew, Like those kind of guys.
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  Speaker 1: Are like, I don't know, if you've got to be
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  Speaker 1: a backup. See, he never really had any success. But
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  Speaker 1: like Gino Smith, Sam Donald, you know Daniel Jones right now,
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  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, while you know Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins I
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  Speaker 1: would put in a different category because he kind of
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  Speaker 1: had some success with Washington then he went to Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: and to take me to have success, you know. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to have You don't have to draft
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  Speaker 1: a guy if you can figure out a way if
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  Speaker 1: you don't love a guy. Now, the way to do
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  Speaker 1: it is what the Patriots did. You get a guy
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  Speaker 1: that you like, you take him in the draft, you
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  Speaker 1: develop him, and hopefully he hits.
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  Speaker 2: That's the way. That's the best way to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Miga Lawrence. So I think I think Evan brought up
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  Speaker 1: Tarva Lawrence last week. I'd be absolutely invested in something
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  Speaker 1: that right.
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  Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew's on Kansas.
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  Speaker 6: City, Gardner Minshew's online, one Wow. That's usually the call
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  Speaker 6: we get in the post game show when they're like,
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  Speaker 6: Pop Douglas is on the line, right.
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  Speaker 1: Is we have Gardner Minshew? How do you not know
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  Speaker 1: where I am? I had to call him. Uh, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's uh.
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  Speaker 6: In terms of the game, though, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 6: it's like we said, got to be good in the margins.
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  Speaker 6: You got to be solid. You can't give up special
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  Speaker 6: team scores. You can't have dumb little mistakes. I was
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  Speaker 6: joking with a guy this morning. I said, this game
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  Speaker 6: was meant for Anthony Jennings. Time to shine. Anthredy Jennings
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  Speaker 6: like a lightly used run stopping edge player. He's got
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  Speaker 6: some fresh legs. I'd put him out there a lot,
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  Speaker 6: you know, but stop the run. That's gonna be a
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  Speaker 6: big part of it. They were very arrest all you
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  Speaker 6: have to do.
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  Speaker 1: But I think, you know, to Evan's point, yes, tis
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  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people have been fixated on
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  Speaker 1: the amount of yards the Jets threat. They only threw
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  Speaker 1: it eleven times. Yeah, like an NFL game.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they just do a lot of different stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 6: with the quarterback, and it's just it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 6: challenge for the Patriots run defense, just in the different
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  Speaker 6: stuff that they're.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna I mean, Justin Field's just he hasn't shown anything
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  Speaker 2: as a thrower in this league.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, if I were the Jets, if I were
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  Speaker 1: Tanner Engstrand, I think that's how he crounces his name,
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  Speaker 1: the former Lions tight pants guy. I would put on
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  Speaker 1: the tape. Mike and I have talked about this for
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  Speaker 1: about two weeks of the Monday night football game here
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  Speaker 1: when the Chicago came in and beat the Patriots, when
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  Speaker 1: Mac Jones was still here and it wasn't you know,
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  Speaker 1: drop back conventional passing, but he threw the ball well
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  Speaker 1: enough that night and he ran like Lamar Jackson. That's
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  Speaker 1: the game plan I would try to see if the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots can deal with so not just We're going to
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  Speaker 1: line up and run Breese Hall twenty five times between
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  Speaker 1: the tackles and see like, well, maybe it's a flu
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  Speaker 1: that the Patriots run defense is number one in the league.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to games. I'm not going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to try to run in different ways and
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  Speaker 1: see if I can utilize the dual threat that Fields
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  Speaker 1: can have. Now, he hasn't been a dual threat guy
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  Speaker 1: because he can only run. Yeah, but you know, no,
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  Speaker 1: it only takes one night.
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  Speaker 6: That's when I remember that that game is going into
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  Speaker 6: the game, we were talking about why aren't.
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  Speaker 1: They running fields more? Why aren't they designing runs for him?
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  Speaker 6: That was like the narrative going in because Chicago, I
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  Speaker 6: don't think they'd want a game to that point.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they won, but they.
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  Speaker 6: Had really struggled, fields had really struggled, and you were
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  Speaker 6: looking at him.
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  Speaker 1: There's a couple of good plays with his feet.
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  Speaker 6: We get into this game against the Patriots here and
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  Speaker 6: that that was when they decided that was one.
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  Speaker 2: Of the best games he was the second half that
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  Speaker 2: he started running.
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  Speaker 1: The whole game.
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  Speaker 2: But was it the whole game? I thought like it
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  Speaker 2: was kind of close, and then he started it was
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  Speaker 2: close because you remember.
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  Speaker 1: As well, I really don't provide anything else, right the
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  Speaker 1: memory of random games. That was the bawy Zappi off
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  Speaker 1: the bench game when they were booing Mac came back
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  Speaker 1: from the injury. Right, So the Patriots fell behind. I think,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say fourteen nothing, Bailey Zad becomes in,
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  Speaker 1: he throws like a bomb to Jacoby Myers. I think
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  Speaker 1: they ended up with fourteen quick points and then Zappi
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  Speaker 1: started turning it over in the second half, which a lot,
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  Speaker 1: but for the offensively, Chicago was pretty good the whole game. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: thirty three to fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
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  Speaker 1: It ended up being a blowout in the second half,
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  Speaker 1: but it was I believe it was fourteen fourteen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: probably late in the first half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember. I just from my recollection, which
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  Speaker 2: isn't as good as yours. It just the second half. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I got out of him. We couldn't stop him.
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  Speaker 1: I think Zapi had a couple of balls tipped at
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  Speaker 1: the line, you know, I think he had a pick.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they turned it over a little bit. But
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  Speaker 1: that was the ze, you know, the Zappi fever can like, right,
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  Speaker 1: give me some zap.
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  Speaker 2: That's when it started. Yeah, okay, but yeah, so like
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  Speaker 2: I said at the beginning, I try to not overlook
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  Speaker 2: any opponent. You know, it's any given Sunday. They could
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  Speaker 2: all be tough. The Patriots will have to do a
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  Speaker 2: lot of dumb things to lose this game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my opinion.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: And that's what Cleveland did too. And Cleveland's not half
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: as good as the Patriots.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: And they still almost won that and they.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Ate right, and it was still fairly close.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: So I would just say I did I mentioned this yesterday.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: I did a little research on the Thursday nights. So
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: the one thing that Fred and I have been hammering
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: is the division game on a Thursday night they always
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: kind of tend to be a little closer. So I
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: would say, there's this is uh, you know, week eleven.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: So there's been ten Thursday night games. I'm only gonna
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: count nine because I don't count the first one because
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: that's not really a Thursday night game. That's the season opener, yep,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: so it's not a short week in other words, you
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. So nine Thursday night games, six
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: of them have been division games so far.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: So good good, okay, good data set.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: So they do often pit division opponents against each other
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: on these Thursday nights. Four out of the six will
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: decide it by three points or less, three points or less,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: not even a touchdown. Seattle twenty three to twenty over Arizona,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: San Francisco twenty six, twenty three over the Rams in overtime.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati thirty three to thirty one over Pittsburgh, Denver ten
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: to seven over the Raiders. The other two games Dallas
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: in Buffalo, Buffalo beat Miami thirty one twenty one with
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: a field goal in the last thirty seconds to make
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: it a two score game. That game was close two
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: or threw a late pick which Buffalo ended up running
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: out the clock. Kacking a field goal to get the
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: two score leap.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: That game was closed throughout.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: And the other game was the Giants beating Philadelphia, which
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: it wasn't close, it was thirty four to seventeen, but
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: it was a major upset, right, you know, it was
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: the Giants beating Philadelphia. So to Fred's point, these Thursday
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: night games sometimes just.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: They were a little screwy. Yeah.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't count the Dallas Philly game because that was
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: the season opener, and then I could have counted that
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: that was a twenty four to twenty game. That's another
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: one that would have added to my my my dada here,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: But I don't really consider that a Thursday night game
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: because it was the opener and no one was on
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: a short week. Yeah, Ittail's nice of what I say
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: yesterday about the Jets. Except for those two games, they're.
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: All been one score games, think win or lost, average
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: margin a defeat under four.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: So they played in some of these tight games as well.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: I just think fast start, you know, take their try
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: to take their run game out of it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Put some points on the board.
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: One of the rookies, you did mention Thomas the cornerback
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: are I believe is how you pronounced it. But he's
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: kind who stepped in for sauce. He did not practice
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: yesterday too, so they're going.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: To be digging.
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: Even McDonald did come back to McDonald did, so we'll
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: see that's he's he's a good player. I mean, you know, Evan,
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: Evan talked about him a bunch of pressures. I think
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: four sacks last week. Yesterday some of the players were talking.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: To say he had three sacks against the Patriots last
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: year and that Thursday night game.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the first quarter will dictate this game.
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: I agree, Fred got a couple scores, you know, just
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: because you can see how it would all unfold you
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: make a couple of mistakes. The Jets are up seven nothing,
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: their run game is now everything's on the table for them.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: You know, it's if the Patriots can stay in control.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: Put points on the board, maybe try to force them
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: to you go up a couple scores.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: They're done because they're gonna have to throw and they can't.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: So not that I would suggest, you know, the Patriots
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: ever do this anyway, but this is not the week
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to allow the other teams opening script to be flowlishly
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: executed to let them go up seven.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Nothing. Well, according to your guy, but you know, Patriots
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: are cheating. Do you hear about that?
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I did not you.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Your guy was insinuating that it's a little fishy that
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: they Your main guy, Yeah, your they said that they're cheating.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: He didn't say the word, but he said, you know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: like it's kind of weird that they always let up
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: that initial touchdown then all of a sudden they clamp
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: down and uh you know that't No, I didn't say that. No, no,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't say it.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: So nikes, but come on, I'm not saying I'm just saying,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: come on, yeah he is. He is beautiful. I look
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: forward to the uh the butt whoop. And I'm going
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: to take from those two today after after last week. Yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: because everything I said, actually the opposite happened.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: So you said that, well.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I was talking about like, you know, Buffalo and you
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: know they go out and lose to Miami and like, yeah,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: oh right, I'll take my medicine, take my medicine like
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: a big boy today.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Any word from Gronk Matt.
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: They are on the move, apparently on the move, on
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: the move, so momentarily I don't want to get you
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: on the phone I see everybody holding on, but I
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: don't want to get you on because you're gonna get
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: cut off by Gronk.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: But we do have Francisco, who is our our soothsayer, correct,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the Great Francisco. I'm much respect going to name him
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: the Great Francisco, and I'm eager to see if if
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: he has a prediction for this game. But I don't
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: want to get to him until after Gronk. So if
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you guys, I wouldn't waste one in a game like this.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: But I know, right, all.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Right, let's go quick. If if we get cut off, Francisco,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: you can call back. What's up, Francisco, what's going on?
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Hey?
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: Hey?
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: All right?
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: So I mean I'm just trying to keep it short
• 20:18
  Speaker 10: and sweet. I mean today is special. I like growing
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: up like I was like ten eleven when we drafted
• 20:26
  Speaker 10: Gronk so and he became my favorite player of all time.
• 20:29
  Speaker 10: So when he broke me when he came out of
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: retirement and we traded him. But with that being said,
• 20:35
  Speaker 10: I don't know how specifically want to go. I've got
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: I've got to I've got to take in there. I've
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: got a fold take. So I've got mister Davis.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, you can call back. You want to call,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: just call back, call back after Gronk.
• 20:54
  Speaker 11: Say good afternoon everyone, and today we're going to celebrate
• 21:00
  Speaker 11: one of the greatest otor wear our Patriots uniform in
• 21:04
  Speaker 11: Rob Gronkowski. His energy, talent, and infectious joy like we
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: just saw, lit up the stadium and inspired Patriots nations
• 21:17
  Speaker 11: for nearly a decade. Like fans everywhere, I personally loved
• 21:22
  Speaker 11: Gronk and I treasured the unforgettable moments we shared. In
• 21:28
  Speaker 11: my opinion, he's actually one of a kind.
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: I don't think he's ever had a bad day. And
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: if there's true there's.
• 21:37
  Speaker 11: An afterlife, I think we'd all like to come back
• 21:41
  Speaker 11: as Gronk. Just a personal opinion. But next year, Gronk
• 21:48
  Speaker 11: becomes eligible for the Patriots Hall of Fame, and I'm
• 21:52
  Speaker 11: pretty confident our fans will make him a first ballot
• 21:56
  Speaker 11: suggestion I had planned to include in his work one
• 22:00
  Speaker 11: day contract. By the way, since we play the Jets
• 22:04
  Speaker 11: tomorrow night, how about a two day contract.
• 22:07
  Speaker 12: Let's do it.
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: Okay, nothing's changed, Well, so this one day contract in
• 22:20
  Speaker 11: our ceremony today, make sure he officially retires a Patriot.
• 22:27
  Speaker 11: I had planned to do that when we did the ceremony,
• 22:32
  Speaker 11: hopefully putting him in the Patriots Hall of Fame. We
• 22:36
  Speaker 11: would have done that contract then and as we all know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 11: is on field dominance and clutch performances were legendary and
• 22:47
  Speaker 11: is larger than life personality and connections with the fan
• 22:52
  Speaker 11: has truly made him a new England icon. A few
• 22:56
  Speaker 11: months ago, Robert turned to Boston to help dedicate the
• 23:00
  Speaker 11: playground he funded on the Esplanade. At that event, a
• 23:05
  Speaker 11: young lady by the name of Susan Hurley, a beloved
• 23:09
  Speaker 11: friend of Rob's and our organization. She was a former
• 23:15
  Speaker 11: Patriots cheerleader and she had cancer unfortunately and was very
• 23:24
  Speaker 11: ill with it, and one of her last requests right
• 23:28
  Speaker 11: at the ceremony donating this playground, she asked that she
• 23:34
  Speaker 11: said she wanted Rob to retire as a Patriot, and
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: I think I've heard that from fans everywhere, and I
• 23:43
  Speaker 11: explained to them how we had planned to do it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: But we decide to call an audible because of Susan's
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: request and fulfill it right away and not make it
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: part of that ceremony now still works on Sundays, So
• 24:03
  Speaker 11: we chose our first primetime game to welcome him back
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: and allow fans to show their appreciation for him. So
• 24:13
  Speaker 11: thank you, Susan. Although she won't be with us physically,
• 24:18
  Speaker 11: she'll be with us spiritually, and we believe she's in
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: our presence now. So in behalf of my family, the
• 24:26
  Speaker 11: Patriots Organization, fans everywhere. It's my honor to welcome back
• 24:31
  Speaker 11: number eighty seven, our champion, Hall of Famer and great,
• 24:37
  Speaker 11: great Patriot, Rob Gonkowski. So we should come and formalize
• 24:44
  Speaker 11: an agreement. Does anyone have any cash here so we
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: get the Sun voters.
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: Straight cash, no taxes. I'll take a briefcase. Actually I'll
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: just take the plane. You're so understated. You guys can
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: come with me. Awesome. Thank you mister Kraft for the
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: kind of wonderful words. And this means a lot to
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: me big time because I'm a I'm a New England Patriot.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: I'm a Patriot for life. My career started here at
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: needed to end here, There's no doubt about that. I mean,
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: the whole Gronc persona, everything about myself was all because
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: of you guys, was all because of the fans here
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: in New England. It was all because of my teammates.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: Accepting me and everyone else here, you know, just accepting
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: who I was from the very beginning and embracing it
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: and letting me just play the game of football out
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: on the football field, and everything established about my football
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: career began here. I'm here in New England as a Patriot,
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: so it was an absolute no brainier to come here
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: and retire as a Patriot, And like mister Kraft said,
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: we had plans to do that. You know, typically you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: if you're going to go in the Patriots Hall of Fame,
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: you know, crossing my fingers, it happens in the future.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: And signed the one day deal, the one day deal there,
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: but with the audible that mister Craft just talked about,
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: with the playground opening two months ago, which was very
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: special to me because I actually when I first retired
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: here as a Patriot, I wanted to get back to
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: the community and that's when that idea to open the
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: playground came about with Susan Hurley right there about a
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: month after I retired, I said, hey, you know, I
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: got the Grunt Nation Youth Foundation. We gained a lot
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: of money into we built up you know, over a
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: million dollars. Let's give it now back to the city
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: of Boston and that's when the idea first started and
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: now it's all full circle moment with it opening up.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: Took about five six years, you know, with that progress
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: to open it up because of all you know, the
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: contracts and all the bills that got to pass and
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: all that nonsense. But it happened for the know, at
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: the right time, for the right reason. And then Susan
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: while we were there, you know, brought up Hey, like
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: mister Kraft said, I would love to see your retire
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: as a Patriot, and now we made that all the
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: ball and we are here today to do this one
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: day contract, which I think it's very reasonable. I think
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: it's the right play to do it as well today
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: and it couldn't have been a better situation this week
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: Thursday night football versus the Jets tomorrow night. And to
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: be back here in Foxborough is a blessing and an
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: honor and it's always a privilege to come here and
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: it brings back so many, so many memories, you know,
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: throughout my career. Just seeing a couple of guys David Andrews,
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: Brian Hoyer threw me my first touchdown pass, you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: when it wasn't a regular season game, it was a
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: preseason game, and doesn't matter. He got the ball, He
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: got the ball rolling for me. He believed in me.
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: And then Tom saw that pass that he threw to me,
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: So then Tom wanted to throw me some touchdowns. The
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: next game, in that Rams preseason game, when I dragged
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: Laura Knight as five yards, the w W champion at
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: the time, but shelled him. I'm here to drop some elbows.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: But we got Jimbo over there. Still trainer man, still
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: the head trainer here. I mean I gave him hell yeah,
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: but he's still here to support me. That's why I
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: love the guy. And Nancy fell asleep, all that, all that,
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: all that rumors out there about me taking the visit here,
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: it was on Nancy's desk that I fell asleep on.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: And she's retiring here this year and she's a patriot
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: for life, bend here forever. So it's a full circle moment.
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: And seeing a lot of you familiar faces here as well.
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: Mike Reese, you know, likes his recy pieces. That's that's
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: our saying. We've been saying for a long time. But
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: uh yeah, I appreciate the craft, the crafts family, the
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: Patriots Foundation, and just everyone here today for this wonderful opportunity.
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: Open up for a.
• 28:51
  Speaker 13: Couple of questions.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Rot, what's your vision for the statue up front?
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: Oh? Oh, Tom statue? It's beautiful. Yeah, Tom's one of
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: a kind like Tom. I don't you're throwing me on
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: the spot like that? Mind? If you put one, just
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: put me in the end zone and me tiny, because
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: Tom is one of a kind, the greatest, he played
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: for twenty plus years here. I think that the ony
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: statue of to be deserved here is Tom Brady. I mean,
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: so I just will honor it and take pictures next
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: to it rather.
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: A moment like this obviously leads to reflection on moments.
• 29:30
  Speaker 12: In your playing career.
• 29:32
  Speaker 14: What are some of the.
• 29:33
  Speaker 15: Moments that stand out to you from your playing career
• 29:36
  Speaker 15: that mean the most teeth?
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: Well, I already talked about some of them with how
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: you're throwing me my first touchdown pass, But winning my
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: first super Bowl here, you know, that was always the
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: ultimate goal, was to win a super Bowl, and that
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: first one will always be my favorite one. And just
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: the feeling and the energy that came with it, you know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: throughout that whole entire week after that will be a
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: for life. The parade, the duck boats, all that, But
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: winning that first Super Bowl versus very you know, solid
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: Seattle Seahawks team when they were going for the repeat.
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: That memory will always, you know, be with me. And
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: memories with the guys, the stories with the guys in
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: the locker room, on the practice field. But the number
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: one memory is winning those Super Bowls big time rock.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Susan was an incredible force.
• 30:23
  Speaker 16: What was it like to have her as a friend
• 30:25
  Speaker 16: and to be able to do this for her?
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: Yes, we are one hundred percent here today for her,
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: no doubt about that. And she just did such a
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: great job just working and running a lot of people's charities.
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: She founded Charity Teams in two thousand and eight, and
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: she works and runs a lot of people's Boston Marathon
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: bibs for their foundations, and I'm talking over hundreds. And
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: she did it with ease, she did it with passion.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: And when I first met her and she gave me
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: the opportunity to get bibs to the Boston Marathon and
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: the opportunity to raise money for my foundation, I knew
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: that she was the one. I didn't talk to anyone else.
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: I was like, Wow, I never seen anyone have so
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: much passion and so much grace for you know, what
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: they want to do and raise money for other charities.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: And she had that and I knew that she was
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: going to be special. And she did an excellent job
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: when working with her for the ten plus years that
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: I'd worked with her for and she made it seamless,
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: she made it easy, She ran all the activities, all
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: the events, and she will have a lasting impact forever,
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: especially with being the main engine of opening up the
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: grind playground.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't always easy here in the eight seasons
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: you were here at twenty ten to twenty eight years.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Is it interesting the way your career went?
• 31:44
  Speaker 17: And now we'll get back and think how everything's water
• 31:48
  Speaker 17: under the bridge and maybe those tough times at different
• 31:50
  Speaker 17: junctures ended up making you a career more rewarding.
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: You hit that right on the nose, Tom For sure,
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: it definitely is more rewarding. And like, what was it like,
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: you know, playing for the organization at that time. Yes,
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: it was tough, it really was. But I tell people
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: all the time now when when I look back at it,
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: like I needed to be in that situation like I
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: needed it to be tough on me, like it made
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: me who I am. It made me the player that
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: I am. It made me come in every single day
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: like to bring my best you know, to the field,
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: because if I didn't, you know, the next guy was
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: going to replace me. And I felt that the next
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: guy was going to replace me. And then also guys
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: like Ninko would would right there, would have it, would
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: have a fire under his engine. He'll be bringing it
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: to me in practice, so then I would have to
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: amp up it even more and bring it to him
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: and then all that good stuff. So it made me
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: a better player, made me a better person a big time,
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: and it's making life easier as well now. So it's
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: very rewarding to go through that stage, especially in your twenties.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: And I needed that type of structure at that time too.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: I was a maniac. We all know that. When I
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: was in my twenties, I definitely cleaned it up big time,
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: you know, still a little bit, but I like what
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: I was. I was such a freelance and I have
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: that structure in my life was what was helping me
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: big time, you know, get to where I am today
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: and who I am today. As well, and those tough
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: times are making you know, work easy now. You know,
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: whatever I do now, I'm like, wow, look what I
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: did back then when I was twenty, I can easily
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: do what I got got in front of my you know,
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: on my plate now.
• 33:23
  Speaker 18: With Patriots fans, it's very clear that you're still so
• 33:26
  Speaker 18: loved here.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: The way they talk about you, it's like you're still
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: on the field almost. I just was it like to
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: have so much.
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: Love from Patriots Nation just throughout your entire playing career
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: and now after.
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really special. And I do get a lot
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: of love, I really do. And if it's on the
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: plane coming back, if it's walking my dog, you know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: if it's just going to the grocery market. I get
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: a lot of love from a lot of fans here
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: in New England and I appreciate that. And that's also
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: what's making this moment very special. I mean just literally
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: in the last two days, a lot of people just
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: congratulated me for this moment right here, and how happy
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: they were. I swear they were more happy for me
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: than I was coming in here today. And like I
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: said earlier, I appreciate the fans accepting me of who
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: I was. I mean, it kind of made the persona
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: very natural, It really did. And I would give credit
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: to the fans. It wasn't like I had to do
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: anything special out there. I was being myself and they
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: just took who I was, you know, and they blew
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: it up to a whole other level, like the Gronk Spike.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: Like I always wanted to spike with football, and then
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: I spiked, and then they just took it to a
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: whole other level, like the Gronk Spike's the greatest thing ever.
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: I'm like, I just was spiking, you know, like, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: the fans here in New England just made it so great.
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: Like me doing silly things off the field, they didn't care.
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: They're like, oh, that's Gronk. Like I got a free
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: pass because of the fans accepting everything, which was great.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: So I appreciate everything, and I appreciate the love from
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: the fans, and I always want to give love back
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: whenever I came.
• 34:54
  Speaker 12: All right, see a little Colias.
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: But I was wondering how you think the twenty twenty
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: five team will do?
• 35:00
  Speaker 12: Thinks Rabel's doing leading the team?
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: Yes, the twenty twenty five team is doing spectacular I mean,
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: they're blown out of the water compared to what everyone
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: thought they were going to be. I mean, we all
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: knew it was gonna be a big improvement here. I
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: said at the beginning of the year, because I'm such
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: a great analyst, now, guys that the Patriots were going
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: to make the playoffs but as a wildcard team, and
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: they were going to be come in second place in
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: the division. But as my great analyst scales, I think,
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: I think they're going to be wrong this year. You know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: we're on track to win the division, you know, knock
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: on one, and on track to not just get a
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: wildcard see, but you know, they get a good, good
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: seating in the top four, which makes it a special
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: year here. And what I really like about these Patriots
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: is that they're not losing focus this year. You know,
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: every single week they're getting better as a team, and
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: they're correcting their mistakes you know from the prior week
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: as well, and they're finding ways to have more explosiveness
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: on the offense as well. And I would say that's
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: due to Josh McDaniels. And that's why, when you know,
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: being an analyst I was last year on Fox, I said, hey,
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: Josh McDaniels would be a great fit here and they
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: ended up hiring him, and just to see him take
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: his guys to the next level, the guys on the
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: offense to the next level. You know, I would say
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: he it contributes to how good of a coach he
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: is and how he can put the players and know
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: his talent in the right position as well.
• 36:19
  Speaker 18: No opportunity to come back to jeely and interview Drake
• 36:22
  Speaker 18: for a Fox segment.
• 36:23
  Speaker 14: What im quession did.
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: You come away with? Yes, I did, which was very
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: special because I got to go to r KKs uh
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: in office then when I came back, so it's the
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: second time we get to meet again here at Jillette
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: Stadium in the last three weeks. But uh yeah, I
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: did a sit down interview with Drake May which was special.
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: And what I really loved about him is his IQ
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: and his intelligence for the game of football. You know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: when we were just talking football and I was asking
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: him questions and and the way he respected the guys
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: that were before him too. Obviously you're coming after Tom Brady,
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: You're always going to be be compared to Tom Brady.
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: But the way he answered the questions showed his respect,
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: but also knew that it's his time and that he's
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: got to do what he's got to do. You know,
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: you appreciate that type of answer. You appreciate that type
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: of honesty and humbleness as well. And he had that
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: and the intelligence he had for the game of football.
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: We were talking plays, and I was saying plays that
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: were you know, the name of the play when I
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: was there with McDaniels, and then now the name has
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: totally changed. And he not just knew my play the
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: play when it was named the terminology of when it
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: was my my era, but he also knew the terminology
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: that it was of his era too. So to know
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: both and just know what I was doing on the
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: play call that I said to him was just pretty impressive.
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: So that's when you know he has a high football
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: IQ and that's what you need at the quarterback position.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Are you going to say something that Tom should he
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: retire Patriots?
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: We all know Tom's the Patriot for life. He's got
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: the statue. He probably did sign a one day contract
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: whatever whenever at the retirement when when he went in
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: in this first year being retired into the Patriots Hall
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: of Fame. So I'm sure. I mean that Tim did
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: sign it. I'm not sure if he did, but he
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: doesn't even need to sign one. The guy he's in
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame statue the greatest of all time.
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: So it's just an honor to be able to, you know, say,
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: I played my whole entire career with him as well.
• 38:20
  Speaker 11: Rob, what do you see if this current team has
• 38:23
  Speaker 11: that you think is special or maybe something that you
• 38:25
  Speaker 11: guys have that made you so special.
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: They're playing together as a team and the Patriots right now,
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: like when you play together as a team and come
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: together as a team, you necessarily don't need that big
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: time playmaker. And that's what everyone was saying at the
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: beginning of the year, and that's what everyone said with
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: us at the beginning of the year as well. Oh
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: we need that explosive guy, we need trade for a
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: number one wide receiver, blah blah blah. But it doesn't matter.
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: When you've got a group of guys that are in
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: it with each other and know how to you know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: have that chemistry and work with each other and have
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: the same timing on every single play and nowhere to
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: be and trust in each other, well then that's what
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: makes a great team. And that's where it's very similar
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: to the teams that we had in the past too,
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: is we sometimes we didn't have a number one you
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: know guy, but everyone was a number one guy and
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: everyone expected to get the ball, and everyone trusted in
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: each other. And I see the similarities, you know, this
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: year with the Patriots as to you know, our successful
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: years when when I was here in that era, you.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Just coming on, what's going to be happening in the
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: game with you?
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: Yes, So I'll be a keeper of the Light. I'll
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: be ringing the bell in the lighthouse at the beginning
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: of the game, which is gonna be special. Never done
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: that before, and actually I've never been to a game
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: yet with the keeper of the Light bell here, So
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: that's gonna be really cool to be able to participate
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: in that. And then at halftime as well, just going
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: to be able to address the crowd and then introduce
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: the halftime performance performance which is low Cash, their country
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: band singer, and I've known them for a couple of
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: years now, so when I heard that it was them,
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: I was like, this is gonna be a special moment,
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: big time. And I got Camille here as well, and
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: another story with my antics. You know, we weren't supposed
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: to talk to the cheerleaders, you know, but I gave
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: my number to Camille, you know, back in the day,
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: and you know I, you know, I bypassed the rules
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: once again because that's what that's what I do. Yeah,
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: it was your role. You're right, it wasn't my role.
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: So there's there's my antics right there. But Camil was
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: a cheerleader, so I want to see some of her
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: cheering skills tomorrow as well. Yes, and and speaking of it,
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: so Susan Hurley was a cheerleader back in the day too,
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: So I just have something for cheerleaders. I guess.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: We've seen so much expansion of the NFL into international
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: waters such as Brazil, Spain and a.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Bunch of other countries.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: What it says you most about seeing.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Football grow in those international places and knowing that you
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: have a bunch of ground fans not only in New
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: England but globally.
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: Yes, it's great that the NFL is expanding into other countries.
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: I mean, I would have to say that has to
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: be due to the owners, especially participating with conversations with
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: Roger Goodell, the commissioner, because he has the control and
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: in order to expand the NFL. I mean, I feel
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: like we max out here in the United States of America,
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: but to make it even bigger, go globally. And I
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: think it's great for the game. It's great for the players.
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: It's great for the players you know individually as well
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: to you know, grow there. I would say, grow their
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: brand too. And I would say, though, not get too big,
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: because I like going over to Europe and going to
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: other countries where no one knows who I am and
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: just being being a freelance and doing whatever I want
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: to do and no fans coming up to me. But overall,
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: it's great for the game of football. And I would
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: just say to make it easier on the players is
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: just to find the logistics to make the travel easier
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: going over those seas, you know, going over because the
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: times don't change, you know, playing at six am and
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: all that. Just find the best ways possible to make
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: sure the players are ready to go and give them
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: enough time to recover after that game as well, after
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: you play, you know in a different country, Rob, you.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Played for a final question, you played for one head
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: coach during your time.
• 42:17
  Speaker 12: Here in New England. You talked a little bit earlier
• 42:19
  Speaker 12: about how it.
• 42:19
  Speaker 17: Wasn't always easy to play here and he was a big.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Part of that.
• 42:22
  Speaker 19: But would you reflect on, you know, your relationship and
• 42:25
  Speaker 19: your time with Bill.
• 42:25
  Speaker 17: Belichick's you know, what are your reflections on playing for
• 42:29
  Speaker 17: him and the impact.
• 42:30
  Speaker 12: He made on your career.
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, coach made a huge impact on my career. I
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: mean I wouldn't be here without this organization without coach
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: you know, Vrabel, without my teammates, without r KK, you know,
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: with without anyone that I had. I had ten year
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: of time here with and spent some quality time with
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: here in the organization. But coach, you know Belichick. What's
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: one thing he truly taught me is preparation and how
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: to prepare for games and how to prepare for the
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: upcoming Sunday, you know, versus whoever you're going against, and
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: prepare if it's a terrible team you're facing, if they're
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: owing ten or prepare the same way as if they're
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: ten and zero as well, and always be ready for
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: any situation. And I'm implying that into my life as well,
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: big time. I mean, if I prepare, you know, going
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: up you know, going into Fox on Sunday, I feel
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: like I have a good day. If I, you know,
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: slack off a little bit, I think it makes a
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: little bit harder. So always be preparing and bring your
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: best stuff and then being able to adjust on the
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: fly as well. Coach Belichick was so good at that.
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: I'm being able to just put us in the best
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: situations to be able to succeed, and just the way
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: he coached us as well, to be the best possible
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: player that you could possibly be. You know, if it
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: was in the meeting rooms calling you out, you know,
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: and I see the reasoning behind it. Sometimes you would
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: get a little disappointed, You get a little frustrated getting
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: called out. But now I look back at that now too,
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: and I appreciate, you know, him coaching me hard, him
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: him being hard on me, you know, And I definitely
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: sometimes maybe took it for granted, but definitely look back
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: now and I appreciate all those situations that he put
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: me in, if it was easy or hard.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Ron, how would you describe the camaraderie after football with
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: your Fox colleagues Tom and Julianne.
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's great. I mean a lot of players struggle
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: after the game of football to find that locker room
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: feel and definitely lucky to still have that feel a
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: little bit. It will never be like you know, the
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: playing days in the NFL, but to have Tom and
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: Julian as well at Fox, I mean, it makes you
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: kick back your feet, you know, sit back and relax
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: and be comfortable more. To have Julian on the Kickoff show,
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: you know there we do segments all the time together,
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: and when Tom's in town doing a game in LA
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: or something, he comes on our show too, or we
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: ask him a question on the screen. It makes it,
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: you know, more lovable. It makes you feel more comfortable
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: as well that we're all there together because we all
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: understand each other. We all understand the way you know,
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: we we process football. We understand the way that we
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: have football knowledge, and we know how to work together
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: as well. So it's great. I love, I love that
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: we're all there together. It was the best catch would
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: be That's a great question to hang on Davis right
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: right there, Tom, Wow, I would say the greatest catch
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: I've made. I mean, I would have to go with
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: one of my one handers. There's so many, I can't
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: even think of what one. Yeah, yeah, the Buffalo one
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: and the Denver one. Well, the Buffalo one was They're
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: like tied to me because it was Verse Buffalo, my
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: hometown team. I always loved to stick it to them.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: And it was on the sidelines versus All Pro safety
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: and Tom threw it back and I toe tapped both
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: feet in I brought it in. But the Denver one
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: was pretty special too because I caught it with my
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: broken forearm. It was broken at the time, too stale
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: and no it wasn't but sounded good. But uh, I
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: had the cast on it. He threw it backwards. There
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: was it was a team meeting. You're not supposed to
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: throw the ball in a team meeting, know what I mean.
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: That's what Coach Belichick said all the time. But Tom
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: did not listen this time. Threw it up there and
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: I just turned around and just one handed and brought
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: it in. And what made it special is I just
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: lined up out wide on the very next play. See,
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: this is great being back here. All the memories are
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: just flowing. Like you don't think about these memories when
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: you're just sitting at home, but being back here in
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: the building, they're all coming back. And then I caught
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: on the two yard line and the very next play,
• 46:17
  Speaker 7: Josh McDaniel's, No, Josh McDaniels knows when they call your
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: number again. He knows when you're on fire, he knows
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: when you're tired. He could tell from practice and all that,
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: just like in the Super Bowl. Actually, my very last
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: catch in the Super Bowl, I swear he saw me.
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: He saw me open on the scene. We call the
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: same exact play on that twenty eight yard catcher to
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: bring it to the two yard line, and then we
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: scored the very next play with Sony Michelle. It was
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: only touchdown of the game. But I ran the scene
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: and I was open, and I was literally came back
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: to the huddle, I was like, all right, two seams
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: in a row. I got like basically my broken squad.
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: But I was like, McDaniel's is gonna call it again?
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: Because I know he knows I was open, He knows
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: I can get open again. Literally get to the huddle,
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: same exact play, I go, this one's coming to me
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: one hundred percent and run the route. Tom throws me
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: the bomb, catch it to a two yard line, and
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: then we score the very next play for the only
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: touchdown of the game. So that was special. But the
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: one the one play Denver, the one hander there and
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: then going out wide Versusmon Miller and running the slant
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: route and for the touchdown the very next play. Yes,
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: thank you guys, thank you all for being here today.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Anybody all right, that's the flu Gronk.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I don't see a light yet. All right, Well that's
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Rob Gronkowski retiring as a Patriot. Ever stopped being Gronk?
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: You know, I was gonna be so depressing when Gronk's
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: like a grizzled old veteran and he's like serious. He
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: never became that guy. He always stayed Gronk, which I
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: just really appreciate it.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely, you know, and he talked about it
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: openly about sort of toward the end some of the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: fun had been lost in that. I think that's why
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: he ultimately retired and then you know, ended up in Tampa.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: But that's the personality, like when when he was just
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: sort of doing his everyday life, that's the day that
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: what mister Kraft said, Robert Kraft said about he's never
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: had a bad day. Could never be more accurate with
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: that guy.
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, just I remember back this was like you know,
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: prime Deuce blogging loving the team and coming off that
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: two thousand and nine playoff loss, it just it felt
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: it shook me. You know, it's just just like, man,
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: they got run off the field by the Ravens. This
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: over and felt kind of like the team was at
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: a crossroads and I'll just I'll just never forget when
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: they drafted him and the antics he pulled on stage
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: and sitting there going, I feel like, this is exactly
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: what this team needs, like just an injection of someone's
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: who's really excited.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: To be here.
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: You had no idea he was going to be the
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: quality of player that he ended up being. But from
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: the minute they drafted him, it was like, there's something
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: really cool about this guy, and it was it was
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: super fun. I mean, he's talking about all these plays
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: and every single one of them you remember them.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Because he's one of rare good picks out of the traft.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I would concur fright, Yeah, he was. He all over
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: him from oh yeah he was in Arizona.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: He may have mentioned it a time or two and
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: the yeah years too, even.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: With the bad back. He was Nope, this guy's gonna
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: be good. Yeah, he's right on that one. He was
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: a rare one, rare good one.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: So that's Rob.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: If you're joining us late and you missed it alive,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: you can catch it later on Patriots dot com. We'll
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: have the full press conference with Rob Gronkowski on Patriots
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: dot com. So getting back to, uh, what where we
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: left off? But yeah, no, Francisco called back, so we
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: want to get him on the line. Francisco, what what
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: else do you got for?
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: Hey?
• 49:44
  Speaker 10: All right, so you know where we left off. I've
• 49:47
  Speaker 10: gotta I've gotta a ball take and then I've got
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: I guess I could both have a bowl, but I've
• 49:54
  Speaker 10: got Garzo and CD. They're both going to get their
• 49:58
  Speaker 10: first pick this week, and we're gonna be up so
• 50:01
  Speaker 10: like we're gonna be up so much to all you
• 50:04
  Speaker 10: Chicken fans out there. He's getting his first touch down
• 50:06
  Speaker 10: this week.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Oh now that's a bold take. That's the bigger take,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: is two guys getting picks.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Like I could see chi, I could see that happening,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Like I could see them having a big lead.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, Francisco, does this stuff just come to you? Do
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: you do you like burn incense? How do you come
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: about these revelations?
• 50:28
  Speaker 15: Got me?
• 50:29
  Speaker 19: Now?
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: For you are pre reading.
• 50:30
  Speaker 10: It's kind of like what you say, Frank, like you
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: it's only a guarantee when you feel it. So it's
• 50:36
  Speaker 10: just it's just it's something I feel. But today I've
• 50:38
  Speaker 10: got like like while I'm at work right now, you know,
• 50:41
  Speaker 10: I'm driving a street sweeper, like just staring at leaves
• 50:44
  Speaker 10: all day. Another one came to me.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: So it's just came to him that it was a
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: design in the leaves.
• 50:50
  Speaker 10: Okay, at least or two picks are going to come
• 50:53
  Speaker 10: from two different people, whether it's a trick trick play
• 50:56
  Speaker 10: from the receiver stuff, or the way I think it's
• 50:59
  Speaker 10: gonna happened is they're going to binge one of the
• 51:01
  Speaker 10: quarterbacks for the other one to come in and they're
• 51:03
  Speaker 10: going to throw.
• 51:03
  Speaker 16: A pick two.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well Francisco, thanks for calling in. I
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: hope you're right and this this you're on an amazing run,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: so let's keep it going. Thank you. Heater of all
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: heater confident, confident that'd be something if he's right, Why
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: wouldn't you be?
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he suggested that a guy who had
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: two career catches was going to catch a fifty plus
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: yard touchdown and he did. Why wouldn't you be confident,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: right witch isn't touchdown? Would be pretty funny.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just he's going to catch a touchdown. He's
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: going to catch oh plus yeah yeah, all right, Uh
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: good stuff from Francisco. Let's move along. Let's see herm
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: in uh d C has been holding on for a while.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: What's up? Herm Hello?
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Hey, herm hey?
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: How's it going with?
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: All right?
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: A quick question for you, Gus. So, obviously I don't
• 51:56
  Speaker 9: want to miss Mandrake May's money, but do you think
• 52:02
  Speaker 9: that when it's time to get him paid that ownership
• 52:08
  Speaker 9: will come tom and have him considered taking a little
• 52:11
  Speaker 9: less considering that it's just gonna be so much harder
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: moving forward to keep putting a good team around him
• 52:20
  Speaker 9: if the obviously takes astrate that you can qualify for.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I know where you're going. I don't know who Drake
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: May's agent is, but there's no way that's happening. There's
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: no way that's happening.
• 52:32
  Speaker 9: Well, So the reason why I'm bringing this up is
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: because I think that's a little bit of and I
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: could be wrong, but I think that's a little bit
• 52:39
  Speaker 9: of what maybe Buffalo's going through right now. In Kansas
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: City's going through right now, right because it seems like
• 52:46
  Speaker 9: the narrative.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Is that any help I don't what exactly are they
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: going through those two teams?
• 52:56
  Speaker 9: Well, again, the narrative is that Josh Allen doesn't have
• 52:59
  Speaker 9: quote any help.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Right out and anybody throw Yeah, but why is that
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: because of Josh Allen's contract? Like they're they're a little
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: bit in between. I mean, it's not all that dissimilar
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: to you know, something Mike was just talking about off
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: air when we were listening to Gronkowski. The Patriots were
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: kind of in between a little bit from you know,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: the O eighth nine era, and they sort of needed
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: to refresh and restock the roster. And they nailed it
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: in ten with Devin mccordy and Rob Gronkowski in the draft.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: You know, you follow that up with a couple more
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: picks like Chandler Jones and Dante hi Tower two years later, thanks,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: and suddenly you're right back in there. Tom famously took
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: quote unquote less and they were in the same situation
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: that Buffalo's in right now. It's it's not because of
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: the salary cap that Buffalo is in the spot there.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: They were a little bit.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: You know, they were a little bit lacking in weapons
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: on offense. You know, they just gave the running back
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: a good contract and he's playing great well. Listen, they
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: don't have any receivers after Shaki.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati's one of the smallest markets in the league. It's
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: not like they've got this huge corporate base or anything.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: And they figured it out. They figure they're paying Joe Burrow,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: they're paying Jamar Chase, they're paying the other wide receiver.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: You can. You can figure it out that that.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: And the other part is it's a lot easier to
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: do it now because the cap is so much bigger,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: and it's getting bigger all the time. With all the
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: added revenues that the league is making, that's only going.
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: To go up.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So so you know, listen, I'm not like you said, herm,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking. I don't want to tell Drake what
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: to do with his money. That's the last thing I
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: want to do. But you know, his agent's not gonna
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: take a home market deal. You know, he's not gonna
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: let him take a home deal.
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: Josh Allen has said that he's like taking less money
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: to stay up there too, So you know, I mean
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: who knows exactly what the truth is say that.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: But like even even during the time that Tom was here,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: and you know they would redo his contract, right, he
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: always made new money. Every time he did that, he
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: made more upfront money. We get like roster bonuses. Yeah,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: he wasn't taking any haircuts. They were just they were
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: just using his contract as sort of a mortgage and
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: refinancing it. And every time they refinanced it. Yeah, it
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: gave him a little cap room, but it gave Brady
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: more upfront money, so he hed fine whenever a really
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: good team get fine.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I don't want to diminish it, because I
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: do think Tom could have taken, you know, if he
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: wanted to, every last dime he could have gotten. Yes,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not diminishing that Tom Brady was team oriented. I'm
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: not saying that that wasn't true.
• 55:32
  Speaker 9: It was.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: But I think Fred very accurately described his quote un
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: quote taking less. He was the highest paid player in
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: the league at various times of his career. I think
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: that you know, herm put it perfectly when he said,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: you know that the narrative, because I think people still
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: glom onto this narrative that if the quarterback makes too much,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: you can't win. And I mean, I don't know how
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: many years Kansas City has to be the best or
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: among the best with Patrick Mahomes making a scene amount
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: of money before that is just completely debunked.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Can we just move past?
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Like Philadelphia has several ridiculously highly paid guys on their roster.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Is there a roster better than that in the league?
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Top to bottom both sides of the ball, and they won.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Is there a more talented roster in the league. They
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: have a lot of guys making high end money.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Yep, yeah.
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: I mean I love the example of the Chiefs because
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: this year we've had such a great When you see
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes trying to do with Taekwon Thornton, Juju Smith, Schuster,
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: some of the cat doesn't look so great. Rashi Rice
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: comes back, a guy that they drafted and who hit
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: on it starts to look a little bit better.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Right, So don't make it out to be the salary
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: cap that caused him to be suspended for the first
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: six games of the season like that. And this is
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: not a shot at Herm because Herm is right. That's
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: the narrative, and it is really that narrative has kind
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: of bugged me for about fifteen years. But in this
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: day and age, it's really silly because the cap is
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: so high.
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: Right, I mean, but it's the truth is always the same.
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: When we learned draft well, you draft well. It solves
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: all your pa that's the problem.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: And that you know Buffal You know, if Buffalo had
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Ladd McConkie instead of key On Coleman, you think their
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: their weapons would look a little bit better. And I'm
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: not I'm not jumping on Brandon Bean. I think he's
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: done a pretty good That's a pretty good roster that
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: they put together. But there they have Khalil Shakir who
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: was a mid round path. He was a fifth round pick.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: They needed to augment him. When they decided to move
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: on from Diggs, they went with Keon Coleman. If they
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: went with someone else, you know, maybe this would look
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit different. And Lad McConkie is just one
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: that jumps to mind because he was in that general
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: area when when the charges took him.
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, can look at dald kin Kate first round pick,
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: I mean certainly not Rob Gronkowski, I mean solid player.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: But that that to me was a good pick. But
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: like ke On Coleman wasn't and not. I don't think
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: he's as stiff, but he's not with he's not good enough.
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing where you get to the bottom
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: of the first round and you feel like we need
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: a receiver and you're getting into the territory where there
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: are guys with you know, development issues, the guys you're
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: gonna need to you know, he's a big athletic guy,
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: but he's he gonna put it all together. You see
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: what they're trying to do though. You see how they're
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: trying to balance it out with him here in the
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: two tight ends. But James Cook has worked out, but
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: it's a struggle.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Brad's in Ohio. Hey Brad, Hey Drew, how are you
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: doing today?
• 58:28
  Speaker 14: I got a couple questions observations to one observation and
• 58:32
  Speaker 14: a couple questions about the season, you know, and how
• 58:35
  Speaker 14: things are been going, which is wonderful. First of all,
• 58:39
  Speaker 14: I want to conmarm Trevion for at least every time
• 58:43
  Speaker 14: that guy gets in front of the microphone, he gives
• 58:46
  Speaker 14: the glory to the Lord. And he's such a young
• 58:49
  Speaker 14: homeley youngster and a great role model I think for
• 58:52
  Speaker 14: our younger generation. Number one. And secondly, I I'm wondering
• 59:00
  Speaker 14: if this isn't the week after this Jets game that
• 59:05
  Speaker 14: we don't make a change to our offensive line, whether
• 59:09
  Speaker 14: we put Wilson at center, because I think Bradbury is
• 59:15
  Speaker 14: just a liability, especially coming down to stretch during the
• 59:19
  Speaker 14: you know, the playoffs and stuff. He just getting run
• 59:21
  Speaker 14: over too much at center. So Ben Brown at center
• 59:25
  Speaker 14: or Wilson at center, Ben Brown at guard? What do
• 59:28
  Speaker 14: you guys think about that?
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: I'm hesitant to make changes at this point. Has it
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: been that bad with Bradbury?
• 59:35
  Speaker 14: I mean, we're going to have to ruin the football eventually,
• 59:40
  Speaker 14: We're going to have to have.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Some kind of you know, Yeah, I don't know. I
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: don't know. I mean I think maybe next year Wilson
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: moves over to center, you know, but I don't think
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: it's going to be this year barring injury. About what
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Ben Brown? You know, he's he's your wild card.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: He's a guy.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Who do you think he's Do you think he's better? Yeah?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's that much better than Brad Barry.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's better.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 14: You know, he's worse of getting run over like Brad,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 14: I don't remember seeing him get one over like that.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll show you the last few games last year.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 14: He did a couple You're right year.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I think Ben Brown did a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: better job than Wilson had been doing when he played
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: that one game. I think it was the Carolina game,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken this one game. The offensive line
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: has been intact for nine out of ten games. There
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: was the one game that Wilson missed and Brown played.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: In Brad's right, Brown did a pretty good job in
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: that game. I think it was the Panthers game. Yeah,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: he's a good player, But I'm not sure that that.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of with Fred like that to me is
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: kind of like change for change sake. I'm not sure
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: that that's a significant upgrade.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Brad, appreciate that. Is a great player.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: He hard to judge. Brad's right, He got her.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: A right So.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: David Andrews getting run over by DeForest Buckner and Quinnin
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Williams quite often, you know, and I didn't want to
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: take David Andrews out of the lineup.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: I think he's a tremendous player for the Patriots. Hey,
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  Speaker 17: Let's practice that good. It's good to get out there good.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 17: Get used to playing that weather. I think yes, it's
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 17: part of playing up here and making it something that
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 17: you know was important for us to get out there and.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 12: Embraced beating in this weather.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 17: And I think it's good to be able to practice
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 17: in I think it's an advantage.
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  Speaker 2: What are you guys.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 9: You guys have had, especially this past Sunday, two big
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: type plays which it comes to really showing about.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 12: Your team speed, Kyle, what sort of impact is that
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 12: haven't had that level.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Of speed had the offenses?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I think just uh sure, just making big plays.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 17: I think just making it easier on the guys up front.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 17: You shorter drives. I think it was a defense in
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 17: a tough spot, you know, being one play and uh
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 17: two plays on the drive out of halftime and they're
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 17: back out there, but unsurely they can't complain for for
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 17: us scoring. I think you know they want that, that's
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 17: what they want, but they just big playability.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 12: I think it's it's hard to get explosive in.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 17: This league, and that's what you want, you know, to
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 17: make drives shorter, make drives, try to skip third down,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 17: and I think having guys like that that you'll make
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 17: it easier and just like I said, just kind of
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 17: get their ball in their hand in space and they'll
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 17: make something happen.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 19: One of the biggest keys when it comes to activating
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 19: to stick cold or rains, snow down the line, how
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 19: do you how do you kind of embrace that the
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 19: way you describe it.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 17: There, Yeah, I think just uh, I think go back
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 17: to the little things of details and you know, when
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 17: it's rain or when the you know, gripping the football
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 17: or being good to own your breaks if your receivers.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 12: Just go back to the.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 17: Fundamentals and know that that that will uh kind of
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 17: be kind of what the what you're battling against little
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 17: things too, hands on the ball, not losing the little
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 17: things if it's rain or snow in and in the cold,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 17: I think, you know, I've had some cool will games
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 17: last year, and this team is, you know, up here
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 17: playing We're trying to you know, make it hard to
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 17: play it, you know, up here in December and you're
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 17: late in the season, and I think we have the advantage.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 12: So I'm just trying to embrace it.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 17: And I think parbus is mentality of getting out there
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 17: and out of the locker room, is making a choice.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 17: You know what kind of player I want to be today?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 17: And I think a lot of those guys in that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 17: locker room, and I think that I know and and
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 17: uh I can tell you about are going to make
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 17: the right one and be themselves.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 12: I feel the effective.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 17: She was just I think we would really right. We
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 17: ran on the field. It's like I started pouring down,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 17: but you know, I missed a little bit high. I
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 17: just got to make some better throws. I think it's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 17: just just depends on Sometimes you get up balls really wet.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 12: Sometimes it's a little drier.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 17: So that's football. And I think just it's hard to see.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 17: You can never practice, you know with it. You know,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 17: it's hard to practice the exact moment unless I'm gound
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 17: go out there and random uh you know day in
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 17: the off season and uh, which I probably probably need
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 17: to probably could happen and do that, but uh yeah,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 17: it's hard to replicate that. But I think it's it's good.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 17: It's uh it's gonna happen at some point again, so
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 17: try to do my best to be accurate, you guys said.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: With the with Kyle will he's all the talk.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: Last year it was just the Key Shaw movie out.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: He's gonna have to step up. Always would like to
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: see him. You know, kind of coming to the game,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: get their own.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 17: The ball and all of a sudden he's just aw
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 17: it was awesome, you know, his first touchdown. I think
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 17: that's that's always cool for him. I knew right when
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 17: I throw, I didn't really see you didn't catch her
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 17: or anything. I was I think I'm getting tackled. But uh,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 17: I know if he had a chance to catch it,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 17: he was probably gone.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 12: And you know he was. So he's done a great job.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 17: He's to keep on, you know, embracing you know, his
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 17: role in practice and and no, he's got to step up.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 12: And uh, just proud of him for.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 17: Coming each and every day and not complaining and you're
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 17: not Paltin just you know, coming to work. And I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 17: think he's just uh just just get started.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 12: Very told this that he offered you guys.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: It was take twenty five minutes off of meeting to
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: get more rest and less quactically.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 18: Said, you know, if you want to half before you know,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 18: here's why it was that important.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: To you guys.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 17: Yeah, it's uh shooting, I take shortcuts. I think to
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 17: not let your little things, you know, uh, you know,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 17: lack or slack. And I think the biggest thing is
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 17: to say what we've been doing, try to keep the
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 17: same mentality and you know, yes today to go inside
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 17: and uh, you know we're gonna go outside. So just
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 17: you know, little things of trying to now let let
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 17: not the little things, you know, go and know that
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 17: these things will matter and have matter for us, you
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 17: know in the past. And I think we'll show up again.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 12: Winning a lot.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 19: I think you can kind of flying under the radar nationally,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 19: but then you win in Tampa on Sunday and all
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 19: of a sudden, you're kind of the flavor.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 10: Of the week.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 12: Uh, Mike talked about.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 17: Not taking the cheese, you know, like the media and
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 17: every but everything like that.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 19: How do you make sure you avoid let down, especially
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 19: where you've got a two win team.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 17: How do you do Yeah, we've had that mindset that
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 17: would be Buffalo kind of ignore the always.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 12: You know, we got to get some some more detention
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 12: and some more media.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 17: Just know that you know it'y didn't given a week
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 17: in this league, you know, just coming off a win
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 17: and they got great players, so we got tough tasks
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 17: and they're coming here with you know, want to beat
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 17: in division. We're wearing you know whatever jerseys and they're
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 17: gonna have something to play for and they still do
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 17: so they're gonna be a tough challenge. And I think it's,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 17: like I said, an't given weeks, so you gotta prepare
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 17: on a short weekend and kind of win that that battle.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 20: A lot of time in going back to February, really
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 20: learn in this system and trying to get ahead of it.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 20: It's your play that stands out to you just from
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 20: this season that you're really proud of that just maybe
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 20: reflects the all the work that you put in to
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 20: sort of trying to get your your hands around this
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 20: system and will be the leader of the.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 17: Off Yeah, I think just getting vitory formation. That's kind
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 17: of the biggest thing. I think, Uh, that's what I'm
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 17: proud of. Probably the most is being at the end
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 17: of the game with the ball you in our hands
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 17: and kneeing it out. So probably some players in there
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 17: that you know, some throws I made or something, But
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 17: I think just as a whole, just working hard to win.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 12: In this league.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: It seamst only rush three against you more than we're
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: used to seeing it.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 16: What's your thought process in the quarterback when defense is
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 16: trying to defend you that way?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 12: Because that something you were expecting considering how much fools.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 17: Is done for Yeah, just be patient, you know, we
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 17: try to have a little bit of an answer, you know,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 17: kind of what they're heating us up with. But uh,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 17: just to kind of see the front, see what they're doing.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 17: You know, what kind of package is coming in when
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 17: they're bringing in more dbs and and dropping out defensive linement.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 17: But really just you see more and more stuff, and
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 17: you know some stuff you don't really you know, it
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 17: isn't scouted as they say, or you have to see
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 17: much on the film. So just you adapt on the
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 17: sideline and and Coastanos is you know, one of the
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 17: best in business at it.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: Drinking teams starting to spy you a little bit more
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: same money they had to spy on you a piece
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: of a found again on Sunday.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I told Levonta David after the game, so I
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 17: can't run.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 12: I don't need to spy me.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 17: But no, I think you know, it takes one less
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 17: defending for them to put in the pass.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 12: You know, it's better for us.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 17: But at the same time, you gotta be cognitive of
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 17: the of the spire, know that he is kind of
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 17: near the line of scrimmage, so you kind of have
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 17: to have a guy, uh you're there to block them,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 17: and you kind of just gotta have eyes on them,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 17: and no, you know, be mindful of what they're doing
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 17: with the games up front to know they could bake
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 17: me into something. So that's really the biggest thing.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 12: And then from there just.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, great major debut, guys, digest last year, what did
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: that moment feel like and what's different.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 12: Now that very year out?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 12: Uh man, I remember being nervous. It was a night game.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 12: I was, you know, sitting on the sideline.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 17: Most of the game got thrown it there at the end,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 17: I think, uh we ran stick and the starospaded me
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 17: into a one of my first first throw interception.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 12: But uh no, it was cool.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 17: I think we had to drive down there and I
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 17: made some throws, got smacked a few times, so I
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 17: know it was cool getting there.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 12: I think that was a cool environment.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 17: Remember last year, you know, at night, but uh shoot
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 17: yet it's uh, it's just funny to looking back at
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 17: I don't really we looked back on that.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: It's pretty cool.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 10: Joined during the during the play, we have to move
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 10: you in the pocket.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: How would you communicate it with here a lot of
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: at least something that you can practice or you have
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: to adjust.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 12: The communicate with my lineman in what sense when you.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Have to move in the pocket, when when the plays apartment.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 17: Oh yeah, there's not much communication. You're kind of just
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 17: in there, you know, playing football. I think they kind
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 17: of know, you know, I can You'll move and make something.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 17: Some things happen. They're just trying to do their best
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 17: job to keep me protecting. They've done a great job
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 17: of that. So I'm really just trying to just to
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 17: just the games up front of the rush, and I
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 17: think from there that they're they're doing a better and
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 17: better job of picking up stunts and games each week
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 17: so that they're working hard on that.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: And now great moments in history.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Week four matchup with the Carolina Panthers, it's Evan Paul myself.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Does alex Is here because it's picks day and she
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: needs her flowers. I was gonna she needs her flowers
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: every Thursday. You have to play with the stick. It's
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: a it's a yeah, it's a bit. Yeah, it's a bit.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: She has some company at the top this week, though.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: Does she Oh, we'll find that out later in the show.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: You're fishing for compliments right now.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Wow, I like it.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't go the way Fred thought, but you know,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: for me, it's no big thing.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: That's another great moment.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: All right back here and Patriots unfiltered. It's oh, come on, Fred,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: it's time for the it's the co Pilot.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: Time for the Copilot Question of the Week, presented by
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  Speaker 6: Guys this week were of course relevant to the Jets game.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: Very simple question, a little bit of trick question.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Though, how many times had the Patriots.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: And Jets met on Thursday night? Yes, it is actually
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: thank you for getting the trick right out of the gate.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: You want to care to You're gonna say three times?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Three times?
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  Speaker 2: This will be the fourth. I was gonna say two.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: Lazar gets it. Oh, that's for it will be the fifth.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: That includes the of course, the forty nine to nineteen game.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Can we have something?
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to point out that the Thanksgiving game
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: was of.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: Course the Fumble game, which was great fun, but not
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: a technically not.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: A thirty four to thirty one loss in eight Matt
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Castle touchdown to Randy Moss as time expired, lost in
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: overtime to Brett Favara. Correct. And then there was a
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: Thursday night game here at Gillette that Brady squeaked by
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: Geno Smith Jets I believe like thirteen to ten something
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: like that. Nailed it. Gino Smith was fifteen of thirty
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: fifteen of thirty.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: Five with three interceptions, and who scored the touchdown Paul
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 6: that night for the Patriots had nothing for it.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Dobson Aaron Dobson, we're still moving. What do you got next?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: So I didn't have the other one. That's why I
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: guess three. Those are the three I could think of
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: for the very next year. Twenty fourteen Patriots squeak out
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: a win.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: They played last year.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: We're getting there.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: So I missed. I missed a lot.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Did a couple.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 6: There's five couple, yeah, including including the including the the
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 6: Thanksgiving game.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was six total total. They liked those six
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: division games on Thursday night.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: So Chris Jones blockfield goal right at the end to
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: uh keep preserve the win for the Patriots, blocking a
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: Nick Folk. That was a Thursday yard game according to
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: something according to copilot.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: And then the last one, of course last year, twenty
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: four to three, Jets get the win.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Remember what else was special about that game, Paul?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 6: Do you remember anything particular that maybe a certain player
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: got in for the first.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: Time, Drake May's debut, Drake May.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: There it is Rogers. So there you go.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: There's your co pilot. How do you use copilot?
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: You just go on to go in and ask some
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: questions and it tells you some answers and then you
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: might want to double check them sometimes, but otherwise it
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: worked pretty good.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Remember remember the butt fumble?
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: Oh got it?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: I remember believable.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving night for that whole game.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: It wasn't even just that, like it was just a
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: calamity of errors for the Jets.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: Stephen Gregory.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, fumble right on like the greg number twenty eight
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 6: Edelman with like a like a like they fumbled the
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: kickoff like into and he ran it right back.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: That game felt particularly there was.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Safety in that game too, Maybe I don't know.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: I remember Gregory there was a touchdown right, Gregory recovered
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: the butt fumble right and then and then on the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: ensuing kickoff. I think they gave it one.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: It was like consecutive touchdown. Yeah, yeah, that was when
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: like that was a comedy.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: E just weird.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: Well, especially coming off of you know two years ago
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: they had lost to the Jets in the playoffs that
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: you know, it was still just that. I mean, these
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: were one of the final nails in the coffin with
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: Rex Ryan, which which I enjoyed that the Ryan Jets.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: So we had Francisco call in with his predictions. James
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Pettigrew says, what about calling him sint Francisco could make
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: a good sidekick for father Fred. San Francisco an old
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: woman will be over sold aluminum siding next week. Father Fred,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: I'm on the case.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's like Fred was like, we need
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: to go talk to Francisco. He knows things right, this
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: is the guy.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's the guy that I consult with. You know,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: he'll he'll know, he'll know who he needed to talk.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 10: My lock of the week is William gets his Farst
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 10: shutdown fifty yards lock lock.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Of the Francisco.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: Kyle and Main made some money off of Francisco. He said,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: I turned two bets for seven dollars total into four
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty because I trusted Francisco's take on Kyle Williams.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Both bets had Kyle Williams tds, digs Henderson Williams TD's
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: and then another Thanks Francisco.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: But honestly living listening to Pugh twice a day and
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: catch twenty two uh has kept me happy all day
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: every day. I'm loving the direction of this team and
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: coaching is going in so good.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: You Gotta put another bet down on anytime score from
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: ft and Chisholm interceptions.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, Anthony has a good one. Good prediction any uh
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: Chius Tonga will score touchdown this season? Perhaps tomorrow? Book it?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that one's happening, No question is it?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: The question is is it a handoff?
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 16: Or the question is is it multiple one like for
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 16: full back dive or tomorrow you're up like thirty five
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 16: to three and then you give it to Tonga to
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 16: get into into the forty.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the question is would it be a rushing
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: touchdown or would it be a passing?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: How his hands? That's what someone should have asked Rabel yesterday.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if anyone on the planet would
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: be more happy to score a touchdown than that guy,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: because he just is like want grin on his face.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: Every time you mentioned it around him, He's just like,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: oh please, he gets so excited.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: I mean Rabel too, Uh when was that yesterday went
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: into just an extensive thing about you know, saying immediately
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 6: highlight him.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: You know he plays on the punt was it the
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: punt team? I protection protection? Sorry, you know, just has
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: to eat blocks.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: Essentially, But a guy contributing all three phases and a
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: big smile on his face. He's right though, I was,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: I was watching it. I just flipped the game on
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: last night. It was on NFL networking.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: But him getting out of the stands, like he's quick,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Like he doesn't look like three hundred plus guy.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: I think it's impressive when he goes in motion, Like
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: that's the fact that he's that like a lot of
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: nimble to like go in motion and him and like
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: he's balanced, like he doesn't get like over his skis,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: and like he's he's really good at it. He's really
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: good at it.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: Like I think it's hard sometime to comprehend that like
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: a three hundred plus pound human could just run faster
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: than you know, an average sized human. But these guys
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: are just different.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Like I was joking around when Henderson's running down the
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: sideline and he's like so athletic and so smooth that
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: he has the ability to look to the sideline and he's.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Just like, that's just good stuff.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: That's athleticism at a different level.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: It's kind of the Tonga signing though, is like you know,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: we're just talking about the buffalo. When the Patriots were rolling,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: they had these obscure signings of these guys that no
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: one has really heard of, and then all of a
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: sudden they would come to the Patriots and they'd be
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: like a star role player, like Tonga is this year.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: That's like a good sign that they're you know, you
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: know that you're you're back.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, we just.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Saw Rob Ninkovich, like, you know, like guys like that that.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: Just aren't Wes Welker, it's.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: Not Milton Williams, like you're not you know, paying him
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: top of market. But they they aggressively went after Tonga
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: like early in free agency was part of that whole
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: wave and they knew something.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Yep, Christoph Virginia has a quiz for Paul to stump him.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: Note unless otherwise stated, all these questions do not include
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: overseas games. All the answers relate to NFL games, not
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: concerts or other events. Okay, Question one. This season, has
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: or had the Patriots play in high Mark Stadium in
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: Nissan Stadium for the final time. When was the last
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: time the Patriots played in a stadium that is no
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: longer in use? When was the last time the Patriots
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: played in a stadium that is no longer in use?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think this is right, but I just go
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: to Chargers twenty fourteen.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right, qualcom stately.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: Wow, that seems really far back, eleven years ago. There's
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: been no other news. I was trying to Yeah, and
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: that's that's good. The two that came out. I didn't
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: even think of that one.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: There's a lot.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: I was thinking San Francisco Candlestick, which would have been
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: like eight ish something like that, and I was thinking Dallas,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: which is probably maybe even seven.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: That game wasn't twenty fourteen, Paul, do you know the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: score of the game? Uh, this is twenty fourteen Rogers.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: If I remember this twenty fourteen away.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: No, Patriots won twenty three to fourteen.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: That's I was in the area.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: Patriots once defeated the Panthers thirty two to twenty nine
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: in front of what was the at the time a
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: record attendance at this stadium. Which stadium was this NRG,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: that's correct, NRG.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: The most underrated super Bowl of all the Super Bow.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: It was a really good That Super Bowl is struggle
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: back and forth.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: The good game.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: School was first quarter, the school was third quarter, couldn't
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: stop or second and fourth?
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: I just feel like they, you know, because the Panthers
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: weren't exactly like a dynasty right in themselves. It gets overlooked,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: but that might have been the best game other than thee.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: In August nineteen ninety eight, Paul August nineteen ninety Patriots
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: participated in the second highest attended NFL single game of
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: all time. This game was played overseas in which stadium
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Wembley incorrect ninety eight in international games, yep.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: In preseason overseas it was traveling nation.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: Is it Mexico City? It was, technically it may not
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: be considered overseas. It was the Stadio Esteca one hundred
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: and six, four and twenty four.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: Christmas, leading to say overseas?
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 12: Right?
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: Too many people?
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Was that on universe?
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Was that over the seas? In at that game called
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: do you know who they beat? Saints? Incorrect? Evan, would
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: you just throw that up there? Oakland Cowboys twenty one
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: to three? I have no recollection of that. In final question,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: the Patriots have played twenty three playoff games in Gillette Stadium.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: What is the Patriots all time playoff record in these games?
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, they've played twenty three games.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 21: Yep, playoff games here, So home playoff uses nine that's ten, nineteen,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 21: twenty and three, yeah, twenty and three.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty is that right?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: They won't know.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: Four You didn't have the answer. It's nineteen and four. Yeah,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: I missed one because Baltimore twenty.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: Nine, Oh yeah, yeah, ten, eleven to Baltimore's Yeah you
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 6: we are sorry.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Eleven and twelve you lost three home playoff games to
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: Baltimore's Jets and Titans.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: That was twenty twelve. Rights, what's his name? Took out
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: a keep to leave even that was.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shame Bernie, Bernie Poward public enemy number one.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 6: That's Stephen Ridley. They got he got the other dimension
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: knocked the out.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: Alex is here, Alex rivalry, So what do you have
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: to report?
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: I was just you know, at the ground press conference.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: I'm sure Evan's talked a little bit about it.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: Well, we watched it live.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: Yep, there you go, so you guys kind of know
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: what went down.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: Then I big time.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: There were some quotes in my little story and send
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: it to you for approvals.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: And now I'm here, okay, little ready for your flowers
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: as always.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: That's five We got five minutes till.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: I know we're not going to jump right into it.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: But no, but then Gronk and Camille were popping around
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: our little office area.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: Oh shoot, really yeah, he wanted I wanted him to
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: sign the jersey at my.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: Desk a little to this morning, so fortunately I didn't
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: know they would be in there, so that worked out well.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: Mary, the laugh was in full.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: That was my favorite part, I thought. When when he
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: said you know, all the familiar faces and pointed out
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: Mike Rees, I thought for sure he was going to
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: make a comment like but Mike, am I right?
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: Did you guys hear the bit about mister Kraft saying like, hey,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: we have the Jets in town.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: He's like, what's the signing bonus?
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: Well, shorthanded at tight end could use him, that's a
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: said Hooper on the can cussed.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought it's just really cool to you know,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: like my generation of Patriots fans like that Gronk Edelman,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: like that's the team that we probably identify with the most.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: And to see these guys come back and you know,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: didn't really end great here for Gronk when he left,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: you know, retired and then eventually went to Tampa Bay,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: and to see him be able to come back and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: you know, next year probably be in the Patriots Hall
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: of Fame, and it's just cool that we can come
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: back and have these guys back again a little bit
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: because absolutely twenty eighteen did not.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: I wish it was with Tom.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's close. I mean he's got a statue,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: I know, you know, but I think that you know,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, he was really hurt, Gronk, like he was
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: really banged up, and you know, it just it was
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: cool to see him that he wanted to do this
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: and yep, he's back.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: Jonathan from Fontana, a first time emailer, wanted to ask
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: you if you guys are familiar with the social media
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: account Drake May Lover.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: Are we familiar?
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: He has one hundred and eighty thousand followers on Instagram
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: and his account consists of glazing May in the best
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: possible way. I know the paper does a good job
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: with it. I know it.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: I know the page. I swear. Oh, I'm sorry.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: I know the Patriots and even NFL accounts have mentioned
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: him on social media prior, and I've been following him
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: since last year before Drake May blew up. And when
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: is Evan going to reveal it's been him?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: What's the emailer? I'm sorry, I just what I have
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: to admit.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: I wish it was me because that's a great account
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: and it's not me. Now there are some impostors out there.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: There's Will Campbell lover, now there's Traveon Henderson lover. It's
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: gotten a little bit out of hand. Like Drake May
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: Lover is the OG and I wish it was me
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: because he does a great job. The best part are the.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: T shirts that he sells, and it's just I love
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: Drake like the I love New York design, but way
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: less artistry and the font it's literally just like a
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: generic impact font. Microsoft word was like awkwards.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: Like built in design.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: Your own, and they're everywhere.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: The kids love these shirts.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we were at the Bruins game. Was that
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: last week? And uh they showed a kid on the
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: JumboTron that was wearing the Drake May Lover T shirt.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: The place erupted and like, I was, like, he's not
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: even here.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: Happened at the Celtics game too, when Drake and Will
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: Campbell were at the Celtics game and they showed them
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: on the screen and then shout out to the TD
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: Garden production crew because they instantly cut to kids wearing
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: the I Love Drake May t shirts.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: That must be like kind of weird though, right that,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: Like it's like is nice that like he has such
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: an obsessed fan base.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: But like nobody in the army has I Love Evan
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Lazar shirt.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: No, But like, did you think it gets at a
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: little here, Like he's not even there at this Bruins
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: game and there's kids walking around wearing these T shirts
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: that we captured the youth.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: That's wrong with unabashed fandom, you like getting all the recipes, give.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: Him some space the comments.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: Don't let him have too much.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: But let him guy, Guy Christians in LA. What's up? Christian?
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 13: Hey, you guys, what a what an amazing uh press
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 13: conference with Gronk. It just brought back so many credible
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 13: memories of watching him play and some of the energy
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 13: that he bought to the team. Just he lit the
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 13: stadium up every time he walked in, you know, every
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 13: time they went, they went to Gronk on the sideline,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 13: no matter if we were winning and losing. You kind
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 13: of just thought, you just put Gronk in. Let's go
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 13: put Gronk in, you know. So it was great to
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 13: see him and to hear him be joyful and you
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 13: enjoying his life after football. It's one of those things
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 13: that a stan watching from the outside. You watched the
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 13: kids who are somewhat younger than us, you know, right,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 13: Paul and Fred. You watch these kids come in the league,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 13: you watch them take off, you watch them get a personality,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 13: and you watch them grow up, and it's like kind
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 13: of being a being a parent, right because they belonged
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 13: to us, because they're Patriot players. So that was just
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 13: really amazing. But onto football, I really want to nitpick
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 13: about us not being able to score in the third
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 13: and fourth quarter or mid to the mid third quarter
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 13: to in fourth quarter. It's really bothered me. I know
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 13: it's going to come back and haunt us. And also
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 13: I wanted to have you guys address why we're having
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 13: such problems in the red zone from like the fifteen
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 13: or ten in. Thank you, guys, I'll take it off
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 13: the off the air.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: All right. Thanks.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: They had to score in the fourth quarter against Tennessee,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: against Cleveland, against Caroline, a couple of them.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: You have to know the context. They did take their
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: foot off the gas, like if.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: They absolutely needed to keep scoring because the other team
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: was also scoring.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, total in between, they would have kept scoring. I'm
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: not I'm not saying it's nothing that they because I
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: do feel like their offense has a been as good
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: in the second half in general as it has in
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: the first half. But I'm not necessarily concerned yet. And
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: is what are the red zone numbers?
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: They're lasting the league in red zone defense?
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, offense.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: Offense. He was asking, Yeah, he was asking offense.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: Or they having so much problems from the fifteen in
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: And I didn't realize that was an I thought he.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: Was talking about defense. I don't think that's I think
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: he was talking about offense. I don't think that that's
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: been a huge issue on offense. I didn't either, I
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: mean in this game. I think I mentioned this yesterday
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: Tampa Bay was came into the game. They had only
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: allowed one goal line rushing touchdown the entire season. So
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: running the ball in on this Bucks defense is as
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: hard as any defense in football. So I'm not surprised that,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: like the sequence before the half like that, they got
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: stuffed a couple times before they finally threw it in
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: and fourth down. But the red zone defense has been bad.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: That's a concern.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, quick one before we get to the picks. Uh,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: let's see Curtis and Saint Louis. He wants us to
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: re draft twenty twenty four quarterbacks. So the order was
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: Williams Daniels, May, Pennix McCarthy, Knicks. How would you reorder
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: that one?
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: It's hard not to say May May first, Caleb Williams.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: I would go Williams Daniels. Yeah, there probably Nick's Pennix McCarthy,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: because I haven't seen anything from McCarthy yet. But that's
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: not his fault.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: He's pretty hurd what I'd say, Yeah, I might put
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: I might put u Pennix ahead of Nicks. I wouldn't,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: I might put McCarthy ahead of Penix. I think Pennix
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: has been bad.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I think your list, though, you could put whoever.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: I think May is the consensus number one, and I
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: think Jaden Daniels number two. Right everybody, I would have
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: Williams Williams, I'm sorry, I mean a lot of people
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: would have Daniels ahead. No, I would have Williams two
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: because of the I think he's showing more potential.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: And still worry about his attitude.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a bummer that some of the concerns
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: about Jaden Daniels's durability are starting to show up. And
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's necessarily because he's the way
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: he's built, Like, I don't. I think it's more about
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: the running than it is necessarily that he's a more
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: slender guy, because Lamar is like a pretty slender guy too,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: And you know, I got hurt. He does get hurt
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: a little bit, but not like you know, he still
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: has two m vps. I don't like redrafting as an exercise.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: I don't enjoy it.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: Why you have more.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: Like it that you can't have.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: You can't someone that loves the draft so much I.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: Don't care for it to participate.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: That's all all right, It's that time of the week,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: and Paul, you're gonna tell us how we did last
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: week and how we do are doing overall. Big shock,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: Shaka shaka last week. Evan, Wow, my squirrel fines and.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: I won the picks last year, followed by everybody else
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: at nine and five. The whole team got ninety five.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: The whole store got the flu with the spread, this
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: is a little bit more impressive, Evan. Again ten and four,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: but unlike the overall, we're all just one game behind.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: Significant gap Mike and Alex seven and seven, Paul and
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: Fred six and eight. Ooh, so ten and four won.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: The next best record is three games worse. That's saying something, Evan.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: So here are Evan, here are your updated standings. Overall,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: Alex maintains their lead at one on one, forty seven
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: and one, Fred ninety seven fifty one and one, Mike
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: ninety five fifty three and one, Paul nine fifty eight
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: and one, and Evan eighty eight sixty in.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: One with the spread.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: It's Fred Cursh's world and we're all just living in
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: it eighty two and sixty seven, followed by Alex seventy
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: four and seventy five, Paul seventy three and seventy six,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: Evan seventy two and seventy seven, and Mike sixty six
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: and eighty three.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: Six back.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: You might have se I'm actually oh and oh because
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: I'm never here for this segment, so it doesn't really I.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: Don't get to have the well poisoned by Alex.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. Really, it doesn't count.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get going. We have to hurry because
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: it's a short week.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: Only one no no band only one by short week.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: So we're gonna skip over the Patriots on Thursday night
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna move to Sunday morning at nine thirty.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: It was really nice of them to have an I
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: thirty game on a red zone Sunday. Mike started off.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: Right, this is again, so the first ever game in
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: Spain for the NFL. It's the three and seven commanders
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: at the three and seven Dolphins that'll sell it.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: International NFL Network Dolphins by two and a half, Mariota.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: Dolphins by two and a half, Mariota.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, where is it, Mariota.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna go with the Dolphins here. I
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: feel like they seem like they're not dead. I saw
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: the post locker room celebrations. Seem like they're pretty excited.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 6: Mike McDaniel cruising around trolling Buffalo fans, which I did say, see.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: After you guys told me about that. So I'll go
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: to Miami International. Miami, I'm gonna too.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: I don't really know why, Probably because I was so
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: agonized to not take them against the spread last week,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: and then I played out exactly as I feared.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: He didn't just take him against the spread. This guy,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: I know it'll come out right.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: I didn't trust my gup.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: I like how Mike McDaniel blamed his spotting at the
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: elbow Room on AI and it was very clearly live
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: in the area. And also the elbow room is nasty.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: I don't like that place.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: It would be called the ass room there.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: I wonder when last time they cleared the floors is.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: Two thousand and three.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 5: Maybe there's a live stream where you can just watch
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: what's going on in the.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 12: Well.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I check the live stream when we play down
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: in Miami and see if no socks.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: There every time I go by there, because you know,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: like it's open air kind of, it's just so packed.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look fun.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: It isn't you know, it isn't fun.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: Anyways, I'm just gonna say I thought we had a
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: hurry Miami. Yummy.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect to be doing this, but Miami. Yeah,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: the Washington injuries are real and Miami obviously still playing hard.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: That was a big one. I'll go with Miami as well,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: setting up that big showdown for later in the season.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: Between nothing between who the Miami Week seventeen, I'm not
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: even sure they're going to show up.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: Sunday at one, Sunday at one on Fox, the five
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: and five Panthers against the three and six Falcons.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: Falcons by three and a half.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: I can't figure these teams out.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: I know these are two tough ones.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I know. Carolina fell back to earth last week.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: Come Paul, I'm gonna take Atlanta. They played a normal
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: game for them. I'll take I'll lay the points at home.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 5: I'll take Atlanta only because they're at home.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: Losing to Tyler Shuck is probably the like one of
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: the sneaky upsets like Carolina is like kind of looking okay,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: and look.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: I had a chance to be six and four, Like
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: what a game behind?
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: And they lose at home Saints Tyler Shock.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: It was like a thirty five year old rookie like
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: I just but I'm going to take the Panthers because
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like this is them. I feel like they're
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: just going to be Sea Sawing.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: A good pick. I thought about it.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to I'm going to take Atlanta because
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: of that thirty to nothing beat down the Panthers gave
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: him earlier, and I think that might snap the Falcons
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: into a little focus. I'm going to take Atlanta, but
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: I agree with Fred and Evan it's a bad pick.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: Watch and learn. This is how you win the picks contest.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: You take Atlanta to win, but you take the points.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: That's how you win.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: Take the hook yep, I still don't know what that means.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Sunday at once the point, so you lose by a
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: field goal, but you win because of the half.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: Why is it a hook though, that's what they call
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: Why do you call all the things that you call
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: the something?
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: Because that's why I refer.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: To that half point as the hook.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: But I don't know stand why. It's because it's bait.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Don't baits, you go take the hook.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: This is had that one to a glossary missed.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: I missed this Spanish fishing.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: He's just the brilliance, the simplicity and the brilliance of
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: Fred Kirsh.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: Listen, the houses do call me. It's so impressed houses.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: Sunday at one, it's a throwback game for Buffalo, apparently
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: from the logo Tampa Bay six and three at Buffalo
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: six and three.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: Uh, Buffalo by five and a half. That's a tough one.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 12: Man.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good game, Buffalo by five and a half.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: You know what, proh, watch your shoes, Buffalo.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with them.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Buffalo, but I'm gonna take the points.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: Please for Tampa Bay. I think Baker makes it a
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: little close.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: But Baker bakes.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: Tampa's injury situation a little better this week.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not a Bucky I guess would be yes,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: Bucky's coming back for obvious reasons.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Buffalo, get right game. I think the
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: Bucks cover.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: I think uh, I agree with Alex, I think Bills
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: win Bucks cover post game. But I'm with Fred that
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: window seat on Sean McDermott's getting a little toasty.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: Would not.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: I don't think they would.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: But as the head coach, if they fire him, that
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: could be if they.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: Lose the division to the Patriots, that region is going
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: to be up and have.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: To go to the super Bowl.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: Bill, one Bill's fan has a large following on on Socials, said,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: can you imagine it's more likely the Patriots win a
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: super Bowl before the Bill?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: That would be amazing. We did a whole rebuild it
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: so good.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 5: With their generational talent at quarterback.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: I want to backs better.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Patriots have a generational quarterback. I
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'm allowed to say that in front.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: Of Yeah, he can say no, Yeah, I just I
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: just wanted to ask for permission.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: First, Buffalo, I'm going to take Buffalo to as Alex said,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: in a get right game, so I will lay the points.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: I would love to pick Tampa Bay out right here.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: I can't do it. My feelings say Buffalo does rally
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: around the coach and all that stuff and come back.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: But I will take the points just so that if
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: if Tampa Bay does win or it comes close. I
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: can still have some joy out of this game. Sunday
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: at one. UH, it's the lack the Chargers at seven
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: and three against the five and four Jaguars. Very disappointing Jaguars.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: That was an unbelievable collapse last week. The lack of
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: three point favorites on the road, I think, I think, but.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: A legendary collapse by the Jags.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: I think they're shook. I think that's something that not
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: not Tyler shook, shook. COK. I'm going to take the
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: lack and I'm gonnalay the points like you shuck a.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 5: Plam same, I'm gonna.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I think the I think they're the paper Jaguars,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: and I think I'm gonna take the Chargers both ways.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: I think the Jaguars are frauds, fraudulent. You're taking the Jaguars. No,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: I'm taking the Chargers both Chargers. I'm gonna take the
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: Charges as well. Just the physicality too much for for Jacksonville.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: I am taking the Jaguars to win the game too.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: So there.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence upset lock of the week or not quite
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 5: a lock.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: I have to feel. I'll let you know when it's
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: a lot. I'll let you know. Sunday at one, Chicago
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: six and three at Minnesota four and five, Minnesota by three. Really,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: I'm Chicago.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 6: I'm upset about that respect. I'm gonna take no respect.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna take Chicago the upset on the road. J. J.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 6: McCarthy Just I hate harder guys. They look at they're
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 6: putting on stacked because about it.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: What do the sharps know about this? Because we're all
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: thinking Chicago should win this game, yet Minnesota is favored
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: by three. What do they know? What's going on?
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: What do they know?
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: What they don't know?
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: But whatever they know, I'm going it's freezing here. I
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 5: go to imagine it's freezing.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: Minnesota have Chicago's number overall, probably the game will be
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: played inside out.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah that Minnesota. Thank you?
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: Content he condescending.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: I did not say that.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 5: I know in Evan's condescending.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: Was not condescending at all.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 12: I hear.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: He's afraid of women, but aren't we all.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: I am afraid of being accused of man's plaining. I
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: don't that does worry me. Your man's plain to me,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: manling your men.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 6: There was one time I was like, started telling me
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 6: about the Bruins, about like their power plane.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: He's like, I probably don't need to explain this self aware.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, but he he did.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 5: Man, that's like nothing else he's aware.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: That's when I started about baseball. Paul's like, all.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: Right, the picture needs to get on the map.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: We gotta hurry.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 5: I just said that you weren't listening.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: I was getting.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 5: That's fair.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: So all Man's spread of why the Vikings are favorite,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: I would assume it is Brian Flores against Caleb Williams
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: that the Sharps are worried about his defense against Caleb.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: You can see he's gonna be able to you know,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: read the coverage and the rush. But I'm gonna stick
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: with my guy Ben Johnson because he's cooking just like
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: Mike Rabel and uh, you know, we were both right
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: in that argument, because Ben Johnson might also be a
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: good head coach.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: So I'm taking the Bears. I'm going to take Chicago too.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not surprising why I'm not, as you know, perplexed
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: by the spread. I think Chicago has been a bottom
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: dweller for a long time and not now, you know,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: we'll see if they can win a division game. Yeah,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: I haven't really shown that they can do it.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: I'd be upset if I was a Bears fan.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: I will take Chicago to see if they can keep
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: it going.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Chicago as well. Sunday at one
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: on Fox, the five three and one Packers are at
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: the two and eight interim coached Giants.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: Talk about teams that are tough to figure. Packers by
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: seven and a half. Any Jackson Dart still in the
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but you get the fire coach bump.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be Jas start.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 6: Famous eating W's I love me some Jameis Winston starting
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 6: Russell Wilson.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: Huh, yeah, no, he got Jamis is the though.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 6: Green Bay is as up and down as anybody, I'm
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 6: going to take Green Bay and I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 6: lay the points.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: This is I feel like one of those good green
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: Bay weeks where everybody's like, oh, Jordan Love he's back.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: It's also that time of year we have to start
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: looking at weather.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's gonna be probably.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 7: Whether.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going green Bay too. I think green Bay
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: only played like when they play a good team. I
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 3: don't know if they're as good as the good team,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: but when they play these bad teams, they so.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: I will take green Bay to win. I will take
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: the points. I am thinking of green Bay losing to Cleveland,
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: green Bay losing to Carolina, and I'm thinking at home,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: the Giants keep it close.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: Reasonable, I disagree. I think green Bay covers this game.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Talking about the hot seat, I think he's feeling yeah.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 6: Quantity guy may give us, but I'm gonna yeah, Jamis
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 6: Winston is amazing.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: I gotta go green Bay all the way here, all right.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: I'm very eager to know the spread of this game.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: Sunday at one on CBS, the BEng at three and six,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: visit the Steelers at five and.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Four, Pittsburgh by five and a half. Wow, tempted.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's an interesting spread. A lot of respect for
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: the Steelers.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: They are But Joe Flacco.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: Is he playing?
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 6: It sounds like Burrow's not going to be I won't
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 6: be back for the Patriots maybe December, but he's working
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 6: with Thanksgiving. I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Cinci in
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 6: the upset. I'm gonna go with an upset here. I
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 6: don't know, man, I just I feel like the Pittsburgh
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 6: Steelers and Aaron Rodgers.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: It's just it's gonna fall apart. I think it's already starting.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: He stinks, all right, How do you look Sunday night?
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: Not good?
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: Same way that's every other game. And yet the Steelers
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: are five and a half point favorites. What do you
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: make of that? Defould probably do, but they score a
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: hell of a lot of points even with Joe Flacco
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: on the road. Though, Joe Flacco and Pittsburgh. The Chargers
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: were making front of the Steelers defense last week, weren't.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: They Chargers were making fun of I don't know, Yeah,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: they were. What were they doing.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: They had this whole wrestling thing where the Chargers were
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: had the the wrestler had the Charger thing on.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: And you're talking about social media social I thought you
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: meant the players.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: I was interested when I thought it was real social
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: media to social media they were making fun of the Steelers.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 5: Were thinking, it's like a postgame, That's what I was thinking.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: Like they stopping on the midfield logo, locker room access.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: They were mocking the Steelers defense or something.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: Like Chargers social media. Yeah, Okay.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 4: As a general rule, I don't like to bet against
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 4: the Steelers at home historically, really philosophies philosophies, and I'm
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 4: going to continue that trend because I think the Bengals
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 4: defense is terrible, but I think the Bengals still cover.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: I wonder what the Giants new head coach his philosophy.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 22: Is, Mike Kofka Kafka, Oh get it, okay, Kaka a
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 22: great philosopher.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: I've heard the name Kafka, but.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: You're probably right, ev do you have a pick?
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: As we're running out of that I always make un
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: a friend when he says we have to hurry, but
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: he's right, today we have to.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: I having anxiety knowing that we only have ten minutes left.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Bengals. I think the Bengals just
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: score a ton of points and I don't think Pittsburgh
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: is gonna be able to keep up. And I like
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: the Bengals in this game.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: I am rooting for the Bengals big because I hate
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. However, However, I don't like Joe Flacco in Pittsburgh.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: I don't like Joe Fla in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is going
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: to win the game. I'll take the points just in case.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: I'll do a Fred you feel good either.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: Way, smart Pittsburgh, but I'll take the points.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: That's probably the following Alex's philosophies.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: That's probably the right pick. But I just really want
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: the Steelers.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: To listen Sunday at one on Fox, it's uh four
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: to five Houston at one in eight Tennessee Houston by
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: seven and a half.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: Davis Mills again or could score negative points against that defense.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: That's very true.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 6: Wow, for those wondering, I hope the Giants aren't adopting
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 6: the Kafka philosophy. He Franz Kop is famous for his
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 6: surreal and anxiety filled stories that explore themes of alienation,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 6: existential dread, and overwhelming bureaucracy, My.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: Life and my co pilot.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take his existential dread. I'll take you
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: the points.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: Houston Texans defense dominant Houston Texans.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Texans as well. How about Davis Mills?
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 23: How about a little scrappy last week running? And for
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 23: his best how about Acid Rain. I'm going to take
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 23: Houston both ways as well. That's a line from Best
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 23: of Times. By the way, I don't know what that is.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: It's a movie.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston both ways for me as well. We moved
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: to four o five. It's six and four forty nine
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: Ers at the three and six.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: Cardinals Niners by two and a half on the road.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: Oh man, this is an interesting Mac Jones.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 6: I was so mad at myself for taking San Francisco
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 6: with the Rams last week. It was just stupidity as well.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 6: I just don't know why I did it. But ah,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 6: Arizona Jacobe Brossett. Something's never It's like over there, battle
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 6: of Patriots quarterbacks over the last few years.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: Shoot, give me, give me the upset at home. I'll
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: take Arizona plus two oh to win. Yeah.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: I love how Deuce is picking. Parlance has not changed.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: He just goes back and forth for thirty seconds.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: You can see, you can feel the Wiels turning. Yeah,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: everyone knows.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 5: I have no idea what Niners Niners?
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Mac Jones, yep.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: So I watched Arizona play one of the least competitive
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: games of football I've ever seen last week against Seattle.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: For that reason, I will take the Cardinals. The teams
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: can't be that bad two weeks in a Roway, like
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: I think they can.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: I'll take the forty nine Ers four five on Fox,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: the seven and two Seahawks against the seven and two
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: rom Now.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: This is a game, foall game, folks are by two
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: and a half.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: This should be a good game.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: I'm torn on this one. I'm, you know, closet a
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: Seattle fan.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: How good is the Seahawks?
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean according to like tv AA, this is
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 6: like one verse two. These are like the two best
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 6: teams in the league right now. Yep, you know what,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna put my fan hat on and I'm gonna.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: Go with Seattle on the road. I'm gonna go with
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: the upset trying to make.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 7: A move here.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 5: It's two and a half or three and a half.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: Two and a half and even really has negligible.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: You could hedge you if you want, Yeah, but that's yeah,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: you might as well just pick it out right.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: So, Fred, it's two and a half, but the Seahawks
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: are on the road, so it's really, oh.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: You haven't been here. It's actually it's different now, So it's.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 3: Really a toss up, is what they're saying.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: It's about as after ten years of me telling him
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: that that's not a thing. They told me.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: It's still a thing. It's just not three anymore. It's
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: more like two.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: It's okay, I'm going to Seattle. I think Seattle's played
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 3: like the best team in the league. I'm not saying
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: they are, but I think they've played that way and
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: in regular season. I think that they they kind of
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 3: get up for this game to kind of prove themselves,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 3: and I think Seattle.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: I'm sticking with my Rams at home. I think they
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: get the job done. But I agree that Seattle has
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: played the best.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will go with the Rams as well. Division
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: Game Sunday four twenty five, CBS four and five, Baltimore
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: at two and seven, Cleveland.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: Baltimore by eight and a half.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: Cleveland has played them a little tough though in the past.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I don't think they've got But yeah, I
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 6: just I can't bet on that. I continue to think
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 6: Baltimore is going to just continue to search. So I'm
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 6: gonna take I'll take Baltimore, and I'll actually lay the points.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: You're going to lay those points?
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, Me too. I think Baltimore is gonna
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: get hot, me too.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I normally don't like to lay that many points
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: in a division game, especially on the road, but I
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: will do it because of Dylan Gabriel Baltimore.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: So here's so you're right to think that, But when
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: the houses give you that spread with a division game, listen,
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: so lay the points Baltimore. This so when it's a division,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: When it's a division game spread houses know that, funny
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: things happen. But when it's a big spread.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: Gabriel made last week the spike, but it wasn't.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: We have to hire On CBS, Kansas City is playing Denver.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: Guess where Denver and Denver? Of course five and four
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: Chiefs at the eight and two Broncos.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: Uh, Kansas City by three and a half.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 3: That's annoying.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 6: I feel the same way about Kansas City and Baltimore.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 6: I'm on Kansas City now. I will take them over
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 6: b Nicks, even though, really, I mean, good game against
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 6: this defense, you know, against Denver defense, Patrick Malmes, that's
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 6: a good matchup worth watching.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go with Casey how many points? Three
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: and a half? Three and a half.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 4: For that reason, Mike, I will take the Chiefs, but uh,
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: Broncos cover at in another home game.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think the Chiefs just win. You think the
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: Chiefs win big wow, because I think Denver.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: It's in Denver.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: You want Denver to be bad?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: No, I just think they are bad.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: Their offense in bow knicks really struggling, and so I
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: think that Kansas City rolls in Denver.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: Evan kind of made a convincing argument. So I was
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: kind of on the fence. But I will take the
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: Chiefs both ways because that that offense.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be rooting hard for Denver. But Chiefs win
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: Sunday and be sure and Universe and the Peacock probably
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: the six the six and three Lions are at the
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: seven and two Eagles.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: I got to watch the Eagles again.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: Philly by one and a half. But you know you're
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: not interested in watching a J. Brown pout.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: I think the Eagles are the most boring good team
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: I've ever seen.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: They're up there.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: I agree, and I think they're gonna lose. I will
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: take the Lions in the upist.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: I'll take the.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 5: Lions just because I like them.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: Do something with you. I think the Eagles are are
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: a snoozer every single week, every time they're on offense.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: They it puts me to sleep. I'm taking the Lions.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: I'm taking the Lions for the reason that you guys,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: because I like them.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: And I don't like who doesn't love Dan Campbell. It's
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: he the most likable coach in the NFL.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: Seconds behind Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, Kyle, Oh, I guess yeah,
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 3: but like, but for.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: You're the I'm taking the Lions. Monday Night on ESPN,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: ESPN plus probably a bunch of other things too. Dallas
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: is at three five and one. They're at the Vegas
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: Raiders at two and seven.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: Great that we get Dallas on another Monday night, Dallas,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: Dallas by three and a half.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: Dallas three and a half on the road.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: Sure, I'll take Dallas.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 5: Why not reluctantly I'll take Dallas too.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: You know what what I mean? You know, dire Straits.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: Give me Vegas outright?
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 7: Wow?
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: Okay win? Yeah, I'll take the Cowboys.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 3: I don't like when he does that. He does that
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 3: because he wants to go, like so he can get
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: a game on us. Just picked the team you think
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 3: it's gonna win.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: I agree. The integrity of the contest would indicate.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 4: Should really write a book on like game theory and strategy,
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 4: but it's not.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: I really think it could happen. I think Dallas's terrible defense,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: and every once in a while in Vegas has a
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: good you know, brock Bauers catches like one hundred passes
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifty yards.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: All right, now we go all the way back Tomorrow night,
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: Thursday eight fifteen, Prime and seven Jets at the eight
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: and two, Patriots by eleven and Patriots eleven and a
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: half eleven.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: We spread of the week.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: How long has it been since the Patriots were eleven
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: and a half Jacksonville?
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, last game of the season and Matt Jones' rookie.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: Year fifty burger. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with New England.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 6: I just think they do enough to win, just slowly,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 6: methodically pull away twenty four to six.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 5: Good score, twenty eight to nine.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: Knowine, I'm saying thirty one to ten New England Patriots.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: I would love that. Mike Scorer is way off. I
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: have twenty three to six Patriots. I do not think
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: this game will be competitive.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: Patriots lay the points obviously, forty seven to three. Wow.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: I love that. I love the confidence.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 5: Let's go.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: Let's let's just bury these guys.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 3: Let's you know, douse my point.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 5: Do I have them covering?
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, let's bury the Jets. I'm not going to twenty
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: eight to nine, right, Yeah, it's not close. All right,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: we are. It's two o'clock, how about that?
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: All right, Tomorrow night be here. Pregame show starts at
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: se seven. Guys around there, Well, I have to do
• 2:00:54
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• 2:00:57
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• 2:00:59
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• 2:01:02
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• 2:01:04
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• 2:01:08
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