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#358 - Identiverse 2025 - Identi-Squabble · Identity at the Center

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  This is identity at the center. Welcome everybody to Identis
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  Wobble yes, thank you very much. Feel free to cheer, applaud.
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  You know all that's going on in my head.
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  Appreciate that. So this is the game show that is
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  all about identity and access management and what the I AM
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  community has been thinking about for the last couple of
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  weeks. I guess as I sent this out, hi
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  Dank, this is Jeff Stebbin. I'm the host of the Identity of
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  the Center podcast. Also do consulting with RSM.
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  So shameless plug, IDC podcast.com.
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  If you're taking pictures, I see you right there.
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  Feel free to send them to me. Go to the website and just drop
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  me because I can put something together.
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  This is going to end up hopefully being an episode if it
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  doesn't suck. So let's try to make it good.
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  I have cameras kind of all over the place.
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  We have a couple teams that are going to come up here in a
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  second. I want to let people know how
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  this is going to work. So it's very similar to Family
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  Feud, but for legal purposes we are called Identis Waddle, so no
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  feud in the term. We're going to be judged by the
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  team up from RSM. So we've got Chad Wolcott from
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  RSM and then a guest judge, Audrey Bregman from Hub
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  International. So give them a round of
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  applause. They are impartial judges and so
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  that's how this is going to work.
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  I'm going to introduce our teams here in a second.
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  So let's meet the first team. We've got team ID pro so let's
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  get Heather and her team out here all right Heather, so
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  welcome to the first icon this file.
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  I see you all have hats, so let's figure out what's going on
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  here. But first one, we're doing a
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  quick introduction all. Right Heather Flanagan, the hat
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  that I'm wearing right now is the executive director of ID
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  Pro. And Tina?
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  Hi everyone, I'm Tina, I'm Co founder of Badge Inc and board
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  member of ID Pro and maybe a little bit later today a
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  particular rapper that you may know.
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  You've put a lot. So I want to poser that you've
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  put a lot of into this rap because other people have asked
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  me if I I said, well, maybe we'll get something called maybe
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  we'll have like a special skills section later.
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  So we'll see. MM Kaiser stratageen standards
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  at cell point. I will not be rappel.
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  Thank you for that. Appreciate that or so.
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  You think? All right, let's get the teams
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  over here. It's not over for find me.
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  Let's get our next team. We've got my Co host Jim
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  McDonald from team Idec. He's got this team here coming
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  on. Jim spent a lot of time putting
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  together that team outfit there looks like.
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  Hey, stickers. All right, so quick
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  introduction, Jeff, Jim McDonald goes identity of disaster
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  itself. All right, gentlemen, David
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  Mahdi, chief identity officer for Transmit Security, and I'm
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  Steven Rennick and I'm the IAM architect for Siena.
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  All right, so any special skills because we have a rapper in the
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  other side, I'm going to take that as a no.
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  OK, let's come on over here. I'm going to explain the rules
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  in the team or to the teams. The way this is going to work is
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  we surveyed hundreds of people from IT Pro and also from my
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  LinkedIn network. So if you're here and you've
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  submitted an answer to that form that I sent out, thank you so
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  much. Do not blame me for your the
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  answers you're going to see here.
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  These are all your answers collectively's community.
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  So just be aware of that. We're going to have each of the
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  teams try to guess the top answers on the board.
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  Again, very similar to another game show you may have heard.
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  If a team gets three strikes, they're going to be out and the
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  other team is going to be able to try and steal it.
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  So again, very familiar hopefully, and you guys can
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  help. So feel free to yell out if you
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  think you've got a good answer. If the, you know, the teams turn
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  to you for guidance and help, feel free to get into that.
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  And then whoever's got the most points at the end is going to
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  win valuable prizes, so we'll announce that later on.
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  OK, Team ID Pro, are you guys ready?
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  No, if you are ready, Sir. IDAC, Are you ready?
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  Yeah. OK, crowd, Are you ready?
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  All right, let's have a McDonough squabble.
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  All right, give me Jim. Give me Heather.
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  We're going to start this off real quick at the first
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  question. All right?
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  Amazing sound effects. We've got the top five answers
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  on the board. Name a common reason for IAM
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  project failure. OK, Heather was first ID pro.
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  What do you got? Under resourced.
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  Under resourced is under resourced on the list our judges
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  are contemplating. They say no, no, OK, too much
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  too soon, too much too soon. So maybe something with
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  inappropriate timelines scoping? I'm not sure.
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  No. OK, we're going to go down the
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  line. So let's see Tina, you're next
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  and you could try and steal. Come on over here, be shy.
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  Name a common reason for I am project failure.
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  Technical debt. Technical debt judge it seem
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  like they're going to award something here all right complex
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  integration all right so you guys want to play or do you want
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  to pass it to the other team here pass or play we can we.
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  Can pass a little bit, make the man so.
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  We've got a player we're going to play All right, OK, so like
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  guys are coming up here. Wow.
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  This is give me a common reason for I am project failure 1 / 15.
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  Let's get everyone up here. Just wait.
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  We have a smooth in here and a common reason for I am project
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  failure, Mike, Vendor vendors. The vendors are a major problem
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  as we say this in an Expo hall with a whole bunch of vendors
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  here. So thanks for that.
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  OK, no, all right. So that's another strike,
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  Heather. Executive.
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  Buy in executive, buy in. OK, this one, I'm pretty sure
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  you have to be out there. Yep #1 on the board.
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  OK, so good answer. Tina, you're next name upon a
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  reason for eyeing fighting failure.
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  Helping anytime. Now, oh, Heather's already
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  waiting for help from the crowd. Permits gathering.
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  Oh, that's. Poor requirements.
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  Gathering your requirements, gathering.
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  All right, that's on the list. What's next?
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  What's next? There's probably that's all the
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  scrubbery. Can't solve all use cases, can't
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  solve all the use cases. So maybe oversold under the
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  liver or something like that. No2 strikes.
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  OK, So the pressure is on you Heather.
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  If we do not get this right, Team IVC is going to get a
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  chance to steal. So give me a common reason for I
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  am project failure. Am I hearing budget?
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  Ajit, I hear budget that's on the list.
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  All right, so now the pressure's.
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  Getting these right with Celebrate.
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  Pressure's acting. I've got one for two for two.
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  What do you got? What do you got?
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  Budget's got something that's cute enough we can't hear.
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  You hear the fries much? Schedule overruns.
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  Schedule overrides, judges. No.
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  OK, Team IDC, you've got a chance to steal here.
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  You're puddling up trying to figure out what you're going to
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  go with. And David is assuming control.
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  I'm assuming control. You are.
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  Or name a common reason for IM project failure, lack of
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  business, 11 business alignments.
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  Because that on the list is #5 if you get it, you steal the
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  points. It is OK.
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  So Team IDC gets those points in the round and away we are.
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  Wait. So OK, so let's go next.
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  So I think Dave, if you were next, you're on this side over
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  here and then Tina, you're over here.
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  All right, so we're going to get to the next question here.
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  All right. Now, since we're in the non
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  human area, we're going to have a non human question.
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  Name a type of non human identity in identity and access
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  management. OK, Tina, quick on the draw.
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  Agentic AI. Agentic AI, is that on the list?
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  Survey says judges contemplating thinking.
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  All right. Ascension AI preparing to take
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  over, right? OK, I think that probably
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  qualifies for it. You guys want to pass or play?
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  We got a chance to get higher, right?
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  Yeah, we're going to play. Right.
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  These guys are mining the rules, right?
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  You guys have a chance to get a higher answer.
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  So if they have a higher answer, those say, David, you've got a
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  choice name, A tag of non human identity, workload identity,
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  workload identity pretty straightforward workload
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  identity this is deciding it's. On there it's.
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  Not no, Nope. When you get the judges, they're
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  just trying to decipher is this some sort of like service
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  accounts? No.
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  OK, All right, so you guys are going to pass or fight, Not
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  workload eyes team. Forget all the fight.
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  OK, this is all right. Kaiser, you're up next, give me
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  a type of non human identity. You need to come over here at
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  the migrants over there who needs workloads anyway and feel
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  free audience right, so type of non human identities if you saw
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  the Google for over the last couple weeks, service accounts,
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  service accounts. OK, that seems pretty simple.
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  There we go Yep #1 all right Heather, you're up.
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  Name a type of non human identity.
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  Butter's thinking. Or maybe she's about to see
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  something inappropriate get us all in trouble.
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  Robots. Robots, OK #3 Tina, you're up
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  again. Are you a type of non human
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  identity? I'm thinking we should probably
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  had Hutch on the show because he's on, Yeah.
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  Hutch. He's a ringer.
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  Tina, give me another non human identity.
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  Can't hear you think from the crowd.
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  You got to speak up. IAM.
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  Roll, IAM. Roll.
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  That's from the crowd. Is that on the list?
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  No. OK, sorry.
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  All that effort. We got nothing for it.
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  I want the weirdest answer. Weirdest answer.
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  Machine. Speak up.
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  Yell it out. Machine.
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  I hear local accounts, local accounts as a machine identity
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  as a non human identity. Is that on the list?
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  No, OK. OK, I'm going to have to go with
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  this one for my own entertainment value, but it also
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  shares my theme, my mom. Is your mom on the list all
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  right? No, unfortunately not.
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  All right, Team IDSC. You've got a chance to steal
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  here, so you guys need to give me a chance.
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  Give me a give me a non human identity type.
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  Feel free to come over here into the camera freight.
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  I know that this is our first time doing the podcast, so come
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  on. Machine accounts, machine
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  accounts. All right, is that on the list?
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  Machine accounts? No, all right, so ID pro wins
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  the points. So we'll have them be the
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  winner. So they get to catch up here a
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  little bit. Let's see what number 5 was on
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  the list. Container identities.
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  Good boy. Do we not know what we're
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  working with? Sounds sounds a little bit.
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  There's a lot of controversy over here would be thanks.
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  I doubt for identity, but #4 an IoT device could be OK and #2 an
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  API key here. OK, early standard answers at
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  the. All right, let's see who's next.
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  You've got Mr. Kaiser. Oh, boy, versus Mr. Rennick.
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  All right, got the next round here.
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  Set up the next question. Let's see how we're doing.
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  OK, this is annoying. So now we're going to get into
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  the Vegas part of this because we have to have some fun.
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  Smell almonds, right? Name a snack you might see at a
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  Las Vegas conference Expo hall I.
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  Think he got this? There we go.
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  OK, I'm pretty sure I saw that, so we'll just got that.
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  Name a snack, Steve. Cookies.
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  Cookies. Is cookies on the list?
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  Number one answer. OK, so already finally good to
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  see how they throw or easy up here.
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  So let's go come over here guys, then.
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  All right, Yeah. Popcorn.
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  Popcorn. It's popcorn on the list.
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  Judges popcorn. No, I disagree because there's
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  literally popcorn sitting on every table right here, right
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  here. So.
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  OK, so let's see, Mr. Mahdi, you're next name a snack you
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  might see at a Las Vegas conference Expo hall.
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  Mints. I hear mints from the crowd.
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  Who else? Anyone else?
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  That's hot sauce. Sauce.
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  Wow. OK.
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  Oh, hot sauce. So what are we going to go with?
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  David, what do you have? We'll go with mints.
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  Mints. OK, It's mints on the list.
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  Mints is on the list. All right, let's come up here.
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  Chips. Chips.
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  OK, chips on the list. No.
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  OK, Jim, pressure's on you. Yeah, a third strike coming up
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  here. Game of snack you might see at a
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  Las Vegas conference Expo ball. Andy.
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  And do you have anything from Andy Candy?
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  Andy. Andy.
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  All right, I see Candy's on the list.
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  Come back over here, guys like are going.
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  Yep. All right.
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  So another snack, David. 2 strikes.
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  Another one strike then ID Pro is going to have a chance to
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  steal. Rusher is on the rusher is on
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  any other from the car. We got a hand raised very
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  polite, yell it out loud. Finger eats pasta.
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  That's an interesting snack. You might see just people just
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  just go and grab things that you got to eat versus wine on
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  sandwiches. We're going to go with
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  sandwiches. Sandwiches.
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  OK, I heard sandwiches. Sandwiches on the list.
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  OK, all right, so we've got a chance now for Heather.
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  It has ID Pro to make a steal here.
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  So, Heather, name a snack you might see at a Las Vegas
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  conference Expo hall. Pretzels.
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  Pretzels, that's a great answer. Let's see, Is that on the list?
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  Pretzels Judges survey says I'm thinking trail mix for Anola.
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  close enough, I guess. OK, all right, so you guys win,
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  you guys steal the points. Let's see what that does for
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  points. So now you've taken a quick
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  lead. Let's see what number six was on
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  a snack. You might see at a loss against
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  conference Jim McDonald. I mean, come on, guys, really a
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  total stack, right? All right, let's see #2 coffee,
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  tea, drinks. OK.
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  All right, so all right, we've got time, I think, for one more
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  question, and we'll go back around to you, Heather, and to
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  you, Jim, up here for another round.
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  All right, so let's see what we got going on here.
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  All right, so here's our last question for the game.
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  Name a common swag item handed out and conference books.
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  All right, so Jim was quick on that one.
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  It was good. A stress ball.
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  A stress ball is stress fall on the list?
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  No, Heather, you've got a chance here.
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  You need to pick out a piece of swag.
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  Common swag item, water bottles, water bottle, water bottle on
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  the list. There it is.
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  All right. Do you guys want to pass or play
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  Heather? We.
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  Want to play? He wants to play.
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  OK, so Tina, you have a common swag item that you might find in
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  a Las Vegas conference hall. Let's move over here just so
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  that we don't have this proper again.
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  Shirts. Shirts.
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  Jergensen, sort of clothing. Clothing on the list.
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  T-shirts. OK, The sock crowd is, I think,
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  out there, right? Socks are pretty popular.
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  Firm, buddy. I see fist pumps in the back.
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  All right, Mr. Kaiser, what's your favorite swag you've seen?
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  So the speaker stepping more whisky.
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  I love bouncy balls. Bouncy bounce.
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  Is that your answer? Is that your final answers,
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  Mike? Some bags.
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  A bag. A bag of some sort.
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  Tote bags. All right, Yeah.
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  You need something to carry all this stuff with you.
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  All right, Other swag item. Stickers.
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  Stickers, there you go, Number one, that's the best one because
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  obviously they're on the sea frame from get them, go visit
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  our booth, go win a bag. Common swag item.
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  Pens. Pens his pens on the list.
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  There it is. All right, we got one answer
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  left. Mr. Kaiser's next.
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  Come on, y'all. Everybody knows his hat.
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  Is it a hat? Is a hat on the list?
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  Let's see. No.
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  OK, the total let down for Mr. Kaiser.
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  Make all your complaints to the Identiverse team.
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  All right, I'm looking good for help.
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  Here's your McDonald. Is Jim McDonald a common swagger
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  And the way he handed out? Oh, all right.
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  He is a snack, but not a common swag item.
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  So there you go. All right, what do we think?
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  What do we think, Tinny? You got 2 strikes cables is what
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  I hear from over here. Any other things speak out.
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  Go in for. So toy, fidget toy is something
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  I hear out here. Anyone else have things swag
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  items now? No pressure, Tina.
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  There's no pressure here. Because if you get this wrong
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  than the ID Pro or the identity center feature chance to steal
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  and they will probably win the game.
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  So there's no pressure whatsoever that you get this
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  correct. Great a lap boy.
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  Stay scary. We're going to go with
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  sunglasses slash notepad slash trinket slash toy.
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  Wow, there's a lot of splashes. Let's see if no, none of those
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  are on the list. So, all right, so let's change
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  it back over here to the identity for the cider team.
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  Who's going to speak for the team muster?
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  Mahdi's going to be the representative.
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  We have our consent. He's he's taken center stage and
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  he he feels very well. I'm going to get a life.
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  No, I appreciate it. You know, blow out my eardrums,
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  Right. So name a common swag item
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  handed out of conference boost. If you guys get this, you guys
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  win that you hold prizes. Queso.
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  It's queso. Charging cables.
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  Charging cables. OK, so I heard that over here.
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  It's charging cables on the list.
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  OK, so that means pro wins that round, and they are the winners.
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  So let's see what number six was.
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  What was #6 something you politely accept and leave in
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  your hotel room. Of course, everyone does that.
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  Come on. All right, so congratulations to
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  our winners here. We've got TV pro Heather, Tina
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  and Kaiser. Let me hold on.
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  We'll get your valuable prize. We get our smarts from community
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  and from the body of knowledge, which is really awesome and you
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  should read it. Yeah, feel free to do a
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  shameless plug for ID pro.org. Definitely a great organization.
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  So courtesy of our friends here at CRA, we've got three passes
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  to the Xenoverse conference next year for everybody on the
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  winning team. So here we go.
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  That's what's got face scan models in place as I cut my back
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  to camera. There we go.
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  So congratulations to those folks.
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  So there you go. Looking forward to see this
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  happen hopefully again next year.
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  I want to give a shout out to Shirley Hahn, who's back there
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  in the middle guarding my precious camera.
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  This would not have happened without her help.
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  So definitely want to shout out Shirley.
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  So please, let's let's hear it for Shirley.
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  Guys, come on, let's go. All right, so with that, we are
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  done. So we're going to let you guys
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  get out into the world. We've got a boot back there
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  Friday, Friday and center. And Tina really wants to do her
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  rap, I think. So if she wants to, she can do
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  it. Do it.
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  Let's see. Come on guys, this is all worth
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  it. Have you ever felt that you had
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  one shot or one opportunity to secure all your data?
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  Do you let the data fall or do you capture the moment?
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  Let's hear it. You better lose yourself in the
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  music the moment you want it. You better never let it go.
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  You only get one shot. Do not miss your MFA roll out.
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  You better capture this moment. Lose yourself in the off.
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  In the off Z. You got it and you never let it.
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  Go. So, you know, everybody, come
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  on, you're not going to find better than that.
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